Written by Damian Saturday, 05 September 2009 09:48
After what seemed like the longest summer on record, the season started again and I was happy. I had football back and everything made sense, but now it's gone again. Not for long and there is the matter of an England match today, but it isn't Aston Villa.
I'm confident England will qualify for the World Cup in South Africa and next summer will be a huge event and there is real hope we can do well, but all these friendly matches we seem to play these days does seem a little too much, it never used to be like this.
So, with no Aston Villa today, I thought I'd look at the match against The Clowns next weekend and some very lose ties to Aston Villa in the papers today.
Isaiah Osbourne off to Blackpool
First up, is the rumour that Isaiah Osbourne might be joining Blackpool on loan for the rest of the season. Now, I like Osbourne and think he is definitely a prospect for the future but it doesn't look like he'll get much of a look in this season, so a loan move to a club where he should play regular football seems like a good idea.
I think the loan window opens up on Monday (would need to do some digging to confirm this so I'm just going to run with it) and it also raises the potential for us to bring in a player or two on loan I think, so there is still every chance we might see someone come in. If we are allowed too that is, again I'd have to do some digging, so instead, I'm just going to leave it, that we could have another player come in, possibly.
Dwight Yorke quits playing football for management
In other news, Dwight Yorke has announced his retirement from the game. Now, say what you like about Yorke, he was an Aston Villa player for nearly ten years and I have fond memories of his time at Villa and he certainly made an impact at our club. How he left wasn't nice, but I think we can all accept that he went on to better things and there are not many players that wouldn't have done what he did.
He's taken a job as assistant manager of the Trinidad and Tobago national team for the rest of the World Cup qualifiers and hopes to one day manage in England. Good luck to him, bit I suspect he'll still get a rough ride if he ever comes back to Villa Park.
The Clowns at the circus
Now, to the important stuff and our next match. We face The Clowns at the circus next Sunday and it is going to be a cracker. I think it's nice to have them in the league for a season or two every now and then as it is a big match and we've sort of gotten used to picking up points from them.
I don't think it will be any different next Sunday, I expect us to win and while they are trying to play decent football, they'll come unstuck, much like they did against Spurs and also how they couldn't beat Stoke at home.
I also fancy they will stay up this season, mostly because there is usually one team that does and I fancy they have enough to scrape through. I don't think they'll last the following season, they're the typical type of club that you can see up and down all the time and while it is fun and the banter we will here next week from them will be hilarious, it's also quite sad.
Still, The Clowns next week is a match that we are all waiting for and I'm sure it will be a good match, but the prices they are charging for tickets to Aston Villa fans just about sums them up really; small time club trying to get what they can knowing that it isn't going to last for long.
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PaulMcGrathsGoneAWOL
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... I read their new owner wants to invest £4-5m in new players! That should go a long way in this day and age! |
dboy
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... The Scum wont stay up. Have you seen them play this season(on MOD)? I think next weekend will be a good game but we have too much for them without doubt! Iam going for 3-0 the Villa!! gabby, dunne & milner! |
Andy Young
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... Damian, Maybe the prices are so high for Villa fans because McLeish and Co. know that Villa are guaranteed a lot of goals. |
John Jordan
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... The new owner intends to bring in twenty new players,albeit Chinese players at 250 thousand pounds each!!!!!  |
Damian
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... I love their belief more than anything. They still think they are the biggest club in Birmingham and go around spouting off loads of rubbish. It's quite endearing really, it's like having a younger brother that needs his older brother to show him how it all works. |
ChristophermMoltisante
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... although i want us to beat them, i also want them to stay up; along with wolves - and i'd like west brom up there too. the more west midlands clubs up there the better: premiership football can only be a good thing for improving the areas we all live in. |
Captain Villa
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... The ticket prices they're charging is ridiculous - £48.00 I paid! Money grabbing scumbags! A little off topic, but I noticed an interesting milestone we may reach this season. If we gain at least 61 points this year, we will have gained 1,000 Premier League points - something only the 'Sky Four' have achieved - not too shabby! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_FA_Premier_League_table |
Simon
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... This game has the potential of being the proverbial banan skin. The pressure on Villa to win is most certainly more than the scum lads, so it will be a real test of nerve. Yes, we are the batter football team, but we all know Blues wont play it that way. They did Eduardo last time round and have already done Modric. Lets hope we finish the game with no injuries. Predicion. Hard faught 1-0 win  |
paul mclafferty
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... i remember the first game yorke came back to villa and he kissed his man ure badge in front of the holte. so for what we done for a lad playing bare foot and make him a millionare shows how much respect he had for the villa fans and then go on and play for the scum!! no morals and a horrid man hope yorke gets cancer... |
keith
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... this is the fixture that gives me nightmares. for those who dont have daughters be thankful, mine met this jerk and the next thing i know shes a scum supporter ( dont hate me for this but she bought a season ticket as well ) i did the fatherly thing and offered her help with her own flat but she thought at 13 she was a bit young. many years later she is the stereo type scum suporter (never goes) but is still full of it for this fixture. so i have already explained to her that even the largest and greatest of companies have an "act of god" clause so if anything like "a plague of locusts" should happen that its one of those once in a lifetime occurences. i can get through these next few weeks kowing whatever the result we will still finish top 4 |
Dave
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... holte end Paul - I said this yesterday as well that's a myth it never happened - i was in the holte that day |
Dave
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... Holte end Paul - you are a total prat aren't you as I said a few weeks ago - ever known anyone that had the Cancer Paul? |
paul mclafferty
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... exactly what are you saying burp? you said what? i was also in the holte and i saw him kiss his badge and so did the people sitting around me because we gave him loads of stick.... |
Woffers8
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... Osbourne is not going to make it in my eyes, seems like a nice enough bloke but not good enough, kinda lumbers around and too clumsy Gardner IMO should go out on loan - he has potential but sitting his arse on the bench every week will just give him blisters. Craig is a worker (a little like Milner) and I hope his hard work is rewarded and that he makes it. Would be good for someone like Licaj/Clark to go out on loan. I'm a firm believer that matches are the best thing when your a young player. |
James Clift
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... Im going next week. £48 to sit in a championship standard ground is a disgrace, mind you I also went last time when Gabby popped up with minutes left and would pay double to have that day again. |
Dave
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... £48 is scandalous I agree - Is it just for this match? what's the clowns usual price anyone know? |
Mike Carter
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... Osbourne to Blackpool AND England? Wow, that young man is certainly going places  |
VillaNick
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... On Yorke, I think John Gregory was to blame for going a bit over the top with his "shot him" comment and it whipped up the Villa fans hatred towards the player. |
Scrumpy
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... I'd love West Brom, Wolves and Scum all in the Premiership - it guarantees 18 points a season for starters :-) |
Billy7
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... i'm going next week, 48 quid, Mrs wasn't happy, but its my birthday on Thursday so had it for that. Last time i went there Richardson scored and Bosnich saved a pen, in the league cup, which we went on to win (beat them 1-0 at Villa park, Deano 5 yrds offside) |
gareth horton
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... osbourne will play most of his career in the football league im quite surprised he hasnt been moved on hope the loan works out for him though and holteend paul thats abit over the top i dont wish the chap well he might of well as taken a dump on villa park such was the way he left the villa an his behaviour after that gutted really he should be a villa legend after spending 10 years at the club he has never been replaced best striker we have had in the last 20 years or so never mind his loss eh |
Mike Carter
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...Does anyone agree that Osbourne is better than Gardener? Absolutely and utterly 100% no. |
gareth horton
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... villanick im not sure if osbourne is better than gardner but on the other hand an ive said this before than i dont rate gardner in fact i think he is shite he gives 100% but thats it he is slow has a limited passing range not great technique and doesnt have the ability to beat a man villa fans just back him cause he is a villa fan(although ive have been told something different but thats another subject) gardner has been talking about tryin to get in2 the side but i think he has no chance he is 22 i think he needs to be playin 1st team football on a regular basis at this important stage of his career god im rambling on lol |
gazza01
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... Watched Osbourne against West Ham in the reserves last week, looked 2nd best to Chris Herd |
paul mclafferty
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... burp.... carry on callin me names and i would love to meet you face to face and i would grab hold of your face and crush you, you p***k. and my father died of lung cancer, you w****r. |
gareth horton
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... holteend paul u cant wish 4 people 2 get cancer then get upset when people have ago at u an u should know better as u lost ur dad 2 cancermaybe u should engage ur brain before u post |
Martin Clabon
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... holteendpaul, out of order. If your Father dued if cancer you should not be wishing it on anyone. Plus you can't go round threatening people like that. |
Steve Badger
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... Paul, I'd advise to retract that and give an apology. You don't want to get banned mate |
Greg
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... Yorke is a legend i dont care if he left, he was right to. 3 league titles and a european cup proved that. Fine he a t**t for kissing the badge at villa park, that is news o me, and he did go to the blues at the end of his career, why not take the pay day, why cant people appreciate what he did for us in his ten years at the club, he had 4 r 5 class seasons for us when he was by far our best player. I no it hurts as fans when our best players leave, but i for one think its small and petty to turn on our old heros just because they want to better themselves. And dont give me that bullshit thats what footballs about, because its not. Hooligans tried to take over football in the past and some will try in the future, thats not football or sport thats thick minded useless thugs bastards destroying our beautifull game. Yorke is a villa legend |
kieron
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... Holte end Paul, you are a Moron!!! You shouldnt be aloowed to post on here ever again. |
VillaNick
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... Why do so many people rate Gardner? I think if you looked up the word average in the dictionary, his face would be next to it! |
avfc56
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... Next Sundays game against the shite will be ,as usual, a heart rendering, nervous, gut wrenching 90 minutes. I'm hoping that we play them off the park and rip in another 5 goals so we can stop them little blue nose w****rs giving the big attitude when ever they are priviledged to play us. UTV - Forever |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... We will have to watch McFadden. He is a good player. He just scored a great goal there for Scotland. |
THE AV VILLAN
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... A message for HolteEnd Paul!!!! I am disgusted at your cancer comments!!! People like you are the real SCUM!!!!  |
Martin Clabon
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... McFadden scored a great goal, which he does 3 times a season and nothing else, we wouldn't let him walk through our midfield and defense like that |
Billy7
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... Holte End Paul- you are f**king stupid, wishing cancer on anyone is well out of order, you say your dad died of it? I dont think anyone who has known someone who has suffered from cancer would say that so you are a LIAR. Grow up. Moving on.... Yorke was great for us, Arsenal away in the semi final of the league cup, 94? Was when we started singing his song, drew 2-2 from 2-0 down. Quality! No need for him to kiss Man Utd badge at Villa park, he should have more respect, but still 1 of the best players i've seen at Villa park. Good Luck to him. (if u cant forgive then u must be perfect, and i think ALL of us make mistakes in life) |
Steve Badger
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... Glen Johnson gets forward doesn't he? Note where all their attacks come though. I Dunne starting tonight? I'm looking forward to watching him, if he is. |
Holte End Hero
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... I don't understand why Heskey starts for England when he isn't even first choice for Villa. He is the worst player on the England team tonight. he never has been any good and never will be any good and the only two people in the world who rate him are Fabio Cappello and Martin O'Neill which is very worrying considering they are supposed to be proffesional managers. I Hope Heskey gets injured tonight and never plays for Villa again, he is an embaressment to proffesional football. |
Steve Badger
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... We were the second fastest growing club after Citeh and third fastest growing footy club in the world apparently; http://www.forbes.com/lists/20...40018.html |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Badger he is starting. If he wasn't we'd be screwed. He is easily our best player. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Sid ive always thought McFadden was a good enough player. Far too good for the blues. He would make a very good squad player in my opinion and was hopeful we would make a move for him last summer to be honest. He is that type of striker we don't have at the moment and would be useful to bring on as a sub when our plan a isn't working. |
afvcbob
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... undays game against the shite will be ,as usual, a heart rendering, nervous, gut wrenching 90 minutes. I'm hoping that we play them off the park and rip in another 5 goals so we can stop them little blue nose w****rs giving the big attitude when ever they are priviledged to play us. UTV - Forever Comment 34, made on September 05, 2009 at 4.16 pm Well said avfc56 - lets bladder them out of sight - little team = little club |
Steve Badger
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... My missus is going to get the right hump when the Ireland game comes on  I've watched the jocks, watching England. I might have to record the Ireland game, hope not |
James Clift
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... I think, like the majority on here that the comments from holteend paul were a bit out of order. I don't think we should slate him too much though. I'm sure he's feeling a bit silly now and is probably a bit to embarrassed to come on and apologise. We've all said things (mostly after a few beers!) that we shouldn't have and paul's no different. When he eventually says sorry, which I'm sure he will, accept it and forget it. |
Steve Badger
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... Agreed Jimbo. We all come out with crap occasionally and indeed I have too  Come on Paul, just hold your hands up mate. I for one don't want to lose you as a poster mate. Bloody hell, Defoe's on fire. |
Jake Gardner
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... pauls a good bloke, i know him, hes just messing. milner looks good done some quality crosses Damian Surströmming??? |
Martin Clabon
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... Ak, McFadden's got talent but very inconsistent. Still too good for blues though, you're right there. Milner doing ok since he came on, nothing special but ok |
Martin Clabon
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... Badger, my wife's a big footie fan and Sunderland so always interested in Ireland so no trouble on that score. My only challenge has been wrestling remote from kids - but sent them to bed now so problem solved |
Steve Badger
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... Watching Carlton Cole. He has come on leaps and bounds since we had him (where he was crap). Reminds me of a certain young striker we have. Who will prove to way better, imo. |
Martin Clabon
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... Stupid frrekick given away by Lescott - I honestly think he is over rated. Decent but £20 odd million, madness |
Steve Badger
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...Badger, my wife's a big footie fan and Sunderland so always interested in Ireland so no trouble on that score. My only challenge has been wrestling remote from kids - but sent them to bed now so problem solved Bloody hell, must be my lucky day. I just applied a bit of psychology. "Bloody hell, there jack on the telly tonight, just the Ireland game". "You might as well put that on then, I'm going on my online bingo" Come on Dunnie, show me what you're made of |
Martin Clabon
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... Badger, I remember watching his debut for us against Southampton (I'm pretty sure it was)where he scored a brilliant volley and I thought he was going to be brilliant but then I think he only scored 1 more league goal all season? I believe he had off the field problems which ma have distrated him and stopped him fulfilling his potential but he looks to be coming good now, strong as an ox I take it it is Fonzi you ae comparing him to? Is he as big and strong as Carlton? |
Steve Badger
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...I take it it is Fonzi you ae comparing him to? Is he as big and strong as Carlton? Nah, Gabby mate. Badger, you are a master with the ladies! Years of patience and self denial |
Steve Badger
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...Badger, I remember watching his debut for us against Southampton (I'm pretty sure it was)where he scored a brilliant volley Yes, I was there for that one. Probably his best performance for us (it was S,hamton, I think) but even then he was quiet. Never got much service though, tbf. 1-0 Ireland and I think I missed a good ball in from Dunne, whilst typing this  |
Steve Badger
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... Going back to Gabby. I've probably got on his case a few times, along with most. But thinking about it, I've probably been really unfair. Given his age, he's doing well, imo. Cole was what 21-22 when he came to us? Gabby's much better now than Cole then, imo. |
Steve Badger
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...Badger, I remember watching his debut for us against Southampton I'm recalling this game. Absolutely awful, IIRC. The reason CC never got much service was because he was the only player in the opponents half for most of the game. Absolutely uninspiring stuff, with few chances. And some of us think we have it bad atm????? |
Dave
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...Gabby's much better now than Cole then, imo I would argue that he's at least his equal now badger |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... I always thought that CC was just lasy to be honest. He used to drive me mad when he was at Villa. He was like Luke Moore always seemed very slow at going to the ball when passed to him and always seemed to get a pass just when the defender would get there 2. |
Martin Clabon
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... Carlton looked like he had it all but never lived up to the billing. I'm not really seeing the Gabbi/Cole comparison, Gabbi is all about pace and while he is strong, Calton is more about stregth and heaight 1st and pace second. Fonzi if he grows and fills out may end up a more natural finsiher than either and perhaps a more skilfull version of Carlton Cole |
Martin Clabon
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... We won that match 2 - 0 from memory, can't remember much about it except great goal from Carlton but we weren't great that season so I will go along with your summary of rubbish. I think it was 1st game of the season but that may be my imagination |
Steve Badger
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...I would argue that he's at least his equal now badger Probably better, imo, which is why I feel a bit ashamed about slagging him. I always thought that CC was just lasy to be honest. Which is exactly the same thing that Gabby gets moaned about, I think? Carlton looked like he had it all but never lived up to the billing. I'm not really seeing the Gabbi/Cole comparison, I'm looking at goals scored. In this sense Gabby pisses it. If Gabby continues to improve, who do you think will be starting for England in a few years time? is my point. I think it was 1st game of the season but that may be my imagination Correct, lovely warm sunny day |
Steve Badger
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... Well, what did we think of Dunne? I've got to be honest and say Ireland were shite, given the opposition. When you look at the population Cyprus have to draw on, that's a worry, imo. I really couldn't be arsed to watch the game, it was so poor. Sorry, Irish Villa supporters |
david
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... Here's a good example of arrogance. A villa fan (Holte End Hero)who reckons he knows far more about football than Martin O'Neill and Fabio Capello. ... I listened to the first half of the England game on the radio and then caught the half time talk and rest of the game on the TV. Whilst they thought that Defoe deserved his chance, they all (Sheringham, Ian Wright, Alan Green etc)said that Heskey played well. Of course I'd like to see him score more goals, but I'm truly sick of Villa fans looking for every opportunity to berate a Villa player. You'd have thought some on here would have learned their lesson after slagging off Petrov and Milner, but no..they are so arrogant (and ignorant) that they are supremely conifdent that they know better than some of the best managers in the game. Reasoned criticism is fair enough, ill informed abuse of a Villa player is out of order. |
Steve Badger
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... Robbo, I'd agree he got some knock-ons. But he just doesn't seem to do it for Villa in the same way,imo. And that headed chance he had would have been taken by a decent striker, again imo. That quote is just a harsh way of saying he doesn't score goals. And I agree with it in that sense. Simple question. Defoe or Heskey? |
Steve Badger
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... I've waited a while for a response, but am anxious to answer Both can be anonymous, imo. But at the end of the day, if you're going to go with an anonymous striker, it has to be someone who puts the ball in the net. Heskey doesn't, simple as, imo. |
david
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... Sorry for silence Badger......had to go collect my son...will have to do the same for my daughter soon. As I said, I'd like to see him score goals too but I just question who is likely to understand his value best....you, me, and other armchair villa fans, or top football managers? Of course we have opinions and they may well be valid ones, but I just feel that Heskey has not been given a fair go right from before he even kicked a ball for us. Want to offer any suggestions as to why that might be? Something in his past perhaps? It doesn't matter who the player is, it's always possible to see negatives if that's all you ever look for. |
Martin Clabon
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... Dunne gave away a very dangerous free kick with less than a minute to go which would have allowed an equaliser. Not looking for too many of these in claret and blue |
Martin Clabon
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... I'm thinking that Heskey is a Villa player, we should not single him out and get on his back until that is no longer the case |
david
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... That's how I feel too Sid. Clearly there are others more knowledgeable than us who see something good in him so that ought to at least make us question whether our judgement of him is correct. In the meantime getting on his back can only harm his performances and it just seems plain wrong headed behaviour from the Villa fans that do it. |
BaltimorePete
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... Dunne is still not fully fit. He didn't have a great game tonight but he's class. Big, strong, and much faster than Larson. May not hvae the same instinct, but Mark Hughes will regret leting Dunne go. By far the best signing MON made alongside Delph who's a stud |
Steve Badger
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... I don't profess to be more knowledgeable. That's fair comment and indeed I can't fault you people who praise Heskey. I love positivity, as you should know But no-one answered my question. Defoe or Heskey? we should not single him out and get on his back until that is no longer the case What is the case? That he scores goals? Or makes them? I'd suggest to the court that he has never done either. Indeed I would ask you Sir, to contribute evidence that he has ever done either or both. |
keith
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... badger im with you on heskey but maybe its how we play him or how we percieve what he should be doing |
david
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... Badger, the case for Heskey is surely that he makes goals. In the first half today they said on the radio that he was winning every header and that he'd laid one on for Rooney quite early on that Rooney should really have scored from. If Rooney had scored then it would have been him that gained the plaudits and Heskey's contribution would have gone largely unremarked. Clearly these sort of contributions are valued by top caoches, and (let's face it) his playing partners. We've all heard positive comments about him from current and ex playing partners who seem to appreciate the unsung work he does on their behalf to make them look good. |
david
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... I'm starting to sound like Heskey's biggest fan here...which I'm not. It just annoys me when Villa fans seem to take pleasure in looking for negatives and verbally abusing a Villa player. I also take a strong dislike to the apparent confidence with which certain villa fans state that he's useless. He obviously isn't useless or he wouldn't be picked by Cappello. It's a mindless thing to say and says more about the armchair critic than about Emile Heskey. |
david
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... keith....you may have hit the nail on the head there. It may well be that we all assume that the main job of a centre forward is to score goals. Maybe that's not what his main role is and we should be trying harder to appreciate other aspects of his game. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer right now to see Gabby in that role rather than Heskey as he is still young, is still improving and has the potential to be great for us, but when Heskey does come on I do think we should all get behind him |
david
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... Having said that, Capello clearly thinks that right now, Heskey performs the rols he has in mind better than Gabby does and I'd back Capello's judgement over my own any day! |
keith
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... i think we should get behind anyone who wears the shirt but heskey is looked upon not as a bad player but a jinx |
Steve Badger
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... 'm starting to sound like Heskey's biggest fan here...which I'm not. It just annoys me when Villa fans seem to take pleasure in looking for negatives and verbally abusing a Villa player. I also take a strong dislike to the apparent confidence with which certain villa fans state that he's useless. He obviously isn't useless or he wouldn't be picked by Cappello. It's a mindless thing to say and says more about the armchair critic than about Emile Heskey. I like the mule, to some small extent, let's get that straight mate. And I'm on record for saying he's not crap You have to admit though, he doesn't do it for the Villa. Which is what I'm questioning. I've asked it enough times though and still no one has answered Defoe or Heskey?> |
david
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... Badger....sorry...I'm hopeless at remembering and quoting specific goals/instances/games. I'd just put forward in evidence that others who ARE good at such things, seem to think that he DOES make a valuable contribution and so keep picking him...I rest my case! |
Steve Badger
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... I messed the last post up Oh well I've asked it enough times though and still no one has answered Defoe or Heskey? |
david
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... Badger. If I was picking the team, I'd go for Defoe too, but if I was managing England instead of Capello I'd place a sizeable bet that we would not now be on the verge of qualifying for the world cup, top of our group, with two games to spare! I don't think it's particularly relevant whether I would have been picking Heskey ahead of Defoe. I think it IS relevant that Capello has chosen to. Most of all it demonstrates that Heskey must have some qualities that some Villa fans choose to ignore or are not knowledgeable enough to appreciate. |
keith
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... ok i admit i am not as knowledgeable as mon or capello but the way my simplistic mind works is that if he is a striker then for villa it aint good |
david
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... keith......i am working on the same principle and that's why I'd pick Defoe ahead of Heskey too. I expect strikers to score goals. There is obviously more to it than that though if people like MoN and Cappello (and others before them) have kept on picking him |
Steve Badger
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... Keef, Defoe, agreed by a mile. I could say the same about Carew, but even when he gets injured for 15 games, he'll simply score more too, imo. Heskey is a bag of shit, simple as. One season apart, that is. The bloke is a joke to me, he falls over so easy, it's embarrassing. Robbo, Whilst I know what you're saying, England come a mile behind the Villa, to me. I'm asking Defoe or Heskey for the Villa mate. I'd suggest Heskey wouldn't get 2%. |
david
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... Badger. I'd go for Defoe...have said so a couple of times now, but why then do others (more knowledgeable than either of us) choose Heskey. Oh...and wish you hadn't said he's a bag of shit btw |
david
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... wiki definition Forwards, also known as attackers and strikers, are the players on a team in association football who play nearest to the opposing team's goal. Looks as if he is a good striker after all!! |
Steve Badger
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...Oh...and wish you hadn't said he's a bag of shit btw Robbo, me old mate; I can only comment on what I see at the Villa |
keith
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... you are right he is a good striker striker = one who refuses to do what hes paid for |
Keith
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... The Burp & holteend paul - Dwight Yorke kissed the Man Utd badge in front of the Villa fans at Old Trafford after Beckham had scored. It was not at VP. He was an excellent Villa player and one of the best we have had in the Premier League. But he is also a cock. Osbourne isn't good enough, he will never play for Villa's first team again. Championship is his level. Gardner is much better. Heskey is, as Badger so eloquently put it, a bag of shit. |
keith
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... r0bb0 look mate all this is only opinion and not personal but i did think mon bought heskey to replace carew who had a lapancing injury and it backfired |
all talk and trousers
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... all the talk of heskey,carew agbonlahor where is the fonz and forrester are they being rested or what?? Yorke gave me my finest villa park memory the goal against forest, the guy is a dick but he was are dick £12.6 Mil was a lot of money |
KingoftheLions
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... Forbes,the wealth agency ,have just published that we are the THIRD quickest growing club in the world in terms of value over the last year making us 21 in the world. Obviousley the club is being very well managed in all its aspects.UP,UP and UP the Villa |
Bobby Park
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... I've seen enough of Osbourne to know he's nowhere near good enough for the premiership and would probably struggle to make the grade in the championship, utterley mediocre ! As for Gardner, how will we ever know how good he is unless he gets a run in central midfield, one thing's for sure he would get more goals than Petrov, Reo, and Sidwell put together as he has a great shot and and a knack of popping up to support the forwards to great effect. If I was Craig it be pretty cheesed off that a non entity like Sidwell (what exactly does he contribute ?) continues to get the nod. Fully expect him to leave VP in January and make the England team with someone else. Watch out for his little brother Gary who has fantastic potential. |
Bobby Park
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... Heskey, worst centre forward I've seen at VP since Sammy Morgan, but at least Sammy would take the keeper or centre half out in the first 10 minutes, and only cost a few pennies from Port Vale. Scandalous to think of the number of England caps Heskey's had and the greats who never got to wear the shirt, Mortimer, Kendall, Jimmy Greenhoff, Dalian Atkinson. MON of course will never sell him, the worse he gets the more he'll pick him. |
Spencer
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... As long as he's not starting ahead of Gabby or Big John, Heskey is okto bring on off the bench. I went to the Wigan game and he spent most of his time either running into their players giving away a freekick or if not he was falling over. I know the whole team played badly that game but for me it underlined the biggest negetives about his game. So like many others I'm not his biggest fan but will still support him when he wears the claret and blue. |
Fatkevs
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... Bobby & Keef (112) spot on Not Fair comparing Defo & Heskey, give Heskey a chance & say Carton Cole he may get 10% Heskey I just cannot see why i think other strikes like him because he makes them look good |
Michael panizza
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... Loved the Karren Brady comment in her blog on The Sun yesterday when, after the recent Spurs game, she overheard one of the London club's directors mentioning they should play better against teams destined for relegation. Apparently she would have loved to 'thrust the spurs cock down that director's throat' as a result of such an outrageous statement. A feeling she, no doubt, is very familiar with: after all, if you've got a good quality why not use it to forward your career Classy, classy lady. |
Martin Clabon
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... Just looked at ome of the old comments from when I was away for a couple of weeks. Wish I hadn't bothered. We have got a worryingly high proportion of absolute penises on this site. 12th man, my arse |
Halfwit
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... Cant wait for this match its guna be great to play them again In a way i never want them to go down because of these matches its good taking the P out of em when they are relegated but its better them staying up so we get a good derby match every season Hopefuly dunne will start that should get the players and fans up for it as for warnock i still need convincing of him i still think he is just a small time player and yes i no people keep saying he won player of the year at blackburn but to be honest that aint that hard my nan could probably do that |
Biriani
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... There are no bad students, only bad teachers. It's time MON used Heskey like a bowling ball and get our midfield to feed off the chaos |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... It's time MON used Heskey like a bowling ball and get our midfield to feed off the chaos a bit |
Michael panizza
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... It's time MON used Heskey as part of one of those cardboard walls you use during training to practice free-kicks...although he may be too static for something like that. |
VillaNick
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... Heskey could get away with murder coz he's a 'nice guy'. Bottom line is I seriously can't think of anyone outside football that rates him. Sad really coz he's a really nice bloke |
Martin Clabon
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... B30, maybe but I think there are a load of whingers who are Villa fans but struggle with perspective. We share a post code by the way Villa Nick, I'm not sure MON and Capello are known for their sentimentality. Heskey is no where near as bad a player as people make out. There are very few good goalscoring big CF's around (whih helps to explain why he gets in to England team). Look at the goalscoring records of the likes of Beattie and Davies and C Cole and you will see they are far from prolific. Same goes to a lesser extent for JC who is also not prolific through his career. Big CF's are expected to do other things as well as score goals. Heskey is miles behind Carew in my view I just think he deserves more than the dog's abuse he gets from Villa fans. he golas he has scored for us have been good (if too few). I have missed a lot of this season having been away but saw him against Fiorentina and he looked better and more hungry (same in preseason watching on internet) so I had hoped he would be more effective this season but I am guessing from the continued negative comments he hasn't. Good enough as 3rd/ 4th choice CF when we are playing 1 up fromt though surely? |
Martin Clabon
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... faangler/ Pancho Villan - you are in fact the same person and I claim my £10 |
adam
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... Stirchley mate theres quite a few of us down here. i like to have a moan meself now and again but they take the piss on here |
cockneyvillan
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... we all know Hesky isnt going to bag you 15- 20 goals , but id say for the system we are playing at the moment he would be second choice for the loan striker role after gabby.he holds the ball up well, runs the channels etc, and is a better option than carew for that role, imo. Secondly if we had a real goal scorer playing off hesky, ie defoe,owen , i realy dont think he would be getting so much stick, because he is a great partner to play with, yeah wed love him to bag more goals but he has other outstanding attributes that out weight that, as mr cappello & oneil have identified. i think hell do a job for us this year and will be outstanding in the loan role as i think him and gabby are up ther with the best in that postion.. |
Mike Carter
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... Heskey is utterly useless. I seriously think Capello has lot the plot when it comes to picking his strikers. There used to be a case that he holds the ball up well, but to be honest, he doesn't even do that. There are no advantages to having him on the pitch at all. All he does is occupy space. He plays like a centre back who's been put up front. No clue. The last 3 games I've watched him play for England he's been just as ineffectual as he has been for us. I just cannot understand why he's playing at this level at all. |
Martin Clabon
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... Monkey, was in Bournville till a couple of years ago, Beaumont Rd. No pubs is the only downside. B30, I know a season ticket holder for Blues who reckons Stirchley is all blues, South Birmingham. Load of crap, more Villa round here than Blues by miles. |
Martin Clabon
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... Viva, I'm not his biggest fan but that is way too tough an assessment. Jon Carew's had plenty of bad games for us. Heskey has done well in some games and hasn't reaaly had that many games for us. Any way, looks like he is no more than back up now. |
bring back john gregory
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... i thought capello only picked players on form???has he seen heskey in a villa shirt .kingstanding and great barr will and always be a villa sronghold,ps blues have over 6000 tickets left for the villa match and at £48 a pop the scum will again show the nation how small they are |
FatKevs
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... I hope Heskey or his friends never visit this site. I think he was a terrible aquisition for us & have never rated him but it would be wrong if he were to here is see the comments we make. An indiviual feeling is fine but thiis now not good Damian can you block any messages with heskey in them |
Martin Clabon
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... B30, you reckon? I took my daughter to football in Stirchley and there 5 or 6 Villa fans for 1 Blues fan (plenty Man U and Liverpol as well). You see more Villa shirts around and I meet more Villa fans around as well. Perhaps you mix in the wrong circles!?! |
adam
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... it sounds bad but ive seen plenty of mentally ill people and people with downs wearing scum shirts round here and thats not me being nasty (before i get slated). Kids are growing up with much better brains now so opting for the mighty Villa |
James Clift
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... We could really do with the shit hole being full next week to make the atmosphere. I'm off down the doctors in the morning to get my jabs. |
Steve Badger
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... Atm, it's Villa slippers off if you love Villa. Not sure if I should have mentioned that (Awaits loads of banter ) |
John Jordan
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... THEY SAY "CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME".....OUR HOME IS BIRMINGHAM...OUR CHARITY "ACORNS"...I AM PROUD OF PANCHO VILLAN..KEEFVILLA AND SQUIRREL.....The rest of you "Tight asses"...GET ONTO THE PREVIOUS SITE AND MAKE A SMALL CONTRIBUTION,AND HELP THESE POOR KIDS!!!!!!! |
Grimo Tokyo
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... I really think you should install a code of conduct on this site. Heskey has been admired by several managers *more knowledgable than all of us*, and it is short-sighted to believe that the players do not/will not access this moronic, ill-considered tripe that poses for constructive criticism on this site. If you created a code to weed out unwarranted obscenity, that would be a step forward. Criticism, yes: but not kneejerk nonsense. Heskey is a good man - just listen to his honest comments in an article in The Guardian, commenting on the effectiveness of him at Villa, and in comparison with Defoe. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/07/jermain-defoe-emile-heskey-england-croatia Heskey's role in the side has long been considered more as a focal point for the front line than that of a goalscorer, yet the player himself admitted Defoe's recent form for club and country could not be ignored as England attempt to secure passage to South Africa. "I couldn't complain [if Defoe was selected to partner Wayne Rooney instead]," said the striker. "Jermain has done brilliantly. Every time he comes on he scores a goal, which is nice to see. He's scored seven goals in six games this season, so you can't complain. Those are the statistics, and he's never complained when he's not played for England, either. "We're in competition, but it's good competition. It puts you on your toes knowing you've got to do well to stay in the team. I like to play as the one man up front, but Jermain likes that role as well. We all do. We've got other strikers here as well – Peter Crouch, Carlton Cole – and it's good to have these options. For me personally, it's nice to be involved because I'm still finding my feet at Villa. Heskey's continued involvement could be questioned given his inability, as yet, to make a notable impact at Villa Park since his £3.5m move from Wigan in January though his muscular presence, selfless attitude and ability to occupy centre-halves, thereby freeing up space for Rooney, has established him as first-choice for Capello." A good man - an honest, thoughtful man - who doesn't deserve to be called 'utterly useless'. Ridiculous. |
DavidC
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... I think its going to be tighter than is comfortable to be honest with you. They seem to have tightened up this season - they certainly aren't shipping a bagfull of goals. I predict a 1-0 win. And it could go either way. |
Dave
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... Grimo Tokyo - regardless of how decent a man he is we're certainly entitled to have an opinion on him as a player regardless of how many words you write or how much you copy and paste |
villacraig1982
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... Thanks for the shout out pensioner, I just wanted to say a big thanks for all those that have pledged money for my half marathon for Acorns, in one weekend i've managed to go from £50 to £160, just from the help from some kind people on here, so thanks very much. UTV!! |
The Mighty Steve
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... I actually remember Yorke comming back with Sunderland and getting a good reception, not a single boo, so I think it is all water under the bridge now. |
hipkissvilla
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... Roll on sunday! I remember the Deano goal against the scum in the cup, He wasnt off side, the only 1 in the scum half of the pitch was the keeper when the ball went threw, so just shoddy defending. Can we have some more of that please, even tho we dont need it. And it cost £8 in the holte that night, how things have changed. |
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