Written by Damian Tuesday, 09 February 2010 08:13
If we win our game in hand we could, mathematically, go fourth as things stand right now, but Manchester City are playing tonight and if they win, they could, mathematically, go fourth. They'd need to score a few, but they could.
You sort of have to assume they will win also as they are playing Bolton at home and Bolton anywhere but home are poor. In other games around us tonight or tomorrow; Liverpool will lose at The Library and Spurs will win at Molineux.
They are my predictions anyway. I also fancy Chelsea will lose at Everton which will make the title race that little bit more interesting, but one thing you can be assured of, now that I have predicted these results, is they won't all happen as predicted.
Manchester United at Villa Park
But, it doesn't matter what happens in the other results, it matters what happens in our one and well, you don't get much better than Manchester United. IF you want to watch a team that attack with confidence and purpose but at the same time with absolute control, then it is Manchester United.
When we beat them in December, Manchester United had twice as many passes and twice as many shots but it wasn't enough. Defensively we were excellent and when the opportunity arose for us to score, we did. We just have to do that again tomorrow. Work for 95 minutes, everyone but Gabby track back and quickly get the ball out of the danger area and you never know, we might.
We can't try to play Manchester United at their own game. That would be like me entering MasterChef; just because I know how to cook and have one or two dishes under my belt, it doesn't mean I can really cook or have any real imagination in the kitchen.
Early Team News
We know about certain injuries, so I won't dance on those stories again, instead, we know O'Neill will do his best to start with the team that started the last match so I will look at those players instead and the one that jumps out is Emile Heskey.
He came off against Spurs after twenty or so minutes and John Carew, looking like he had just woken up, replaced him. There is no doubt that Heskey looks more interested than Carew at the moment and that O'Neill wants a big man up front. If Heskey doesn't shrug off his knock, expect Carew to play, because he is the traditional big man up front and well, that is how we play.
Manchester United Prediction
This is a bit like Cherry Cola. You are surprised but you shouldn't be. What I mean is, we all know what Manchester United can and probably will do and it suits us and our style of direct counter attacking football and because of this we do stand a chance.
But there comes a time when our luck will run out and there will come a time when fatigue, mental or otherwise, will catch up with our players and it could happen tomorrow, because Manchester United are hitting the type of form that really is enjoyable to watch.
But there is one thing that O'Neill is good at and that is getting his players up for a match. He showed this last time he played United and he needs to show it again tomorrow and I think he will. Tomorrow will be a draw. United will have the majority of the possession, they'll have many more passes and a hat full of more shots, but we will have all our men back behind the ball (maybe even go 4-5-1 if Heskey is injured) and our defenders will all win a man of the match vote.
Best & Worst Case
If we beat Manchester United five nil we could go up to fourth. However, if we win and other results go in our favour the reality is we would be fifth. Worst case scenario is we find ourselves exactly where we are, seventh.
Links and Updates
Updates all day tomorrow on the match with team news as we get it, but for the rest of the day, here are some links. I post these as I can't be arsed to comment on them but you should see them.
- Aston Villa Wembelieve Facebook Page - I'm saying nothing
- Aston Villa song - honestly I couldn't watch to the end so I don't know what happens.
- Alan Hansen preview - not really Alan Hansen, but who cares
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Pancho Villan
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... Prediction - sorry, but we're getting pummelled 0 - 3 The luck will run out. |
churchill
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... I guess Carew will start. If he can't get up for this, throw him away. The rest of the team work so hard. If they see Carew poncing about it will anger and dispirit them. |
RockSteady
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... My missus won't let me watch the match if JC starts. I spent the entire spurs game just hurling profanity at the computer screen everytime he got the ball (or didn't get the ball in this case). I'm hoping for something from the game although it will be tough to get the win. Completely depends on how the offencive players play. 1-1 is my shout! |
Damian
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... Pancho Villan careful now - you'll get labelled a pessimist i dont think we'll be hammered - only because this is exactly the type of match where we do well, where o'neills leicester always did well .. we are geared up for these matches |
SidCowanslovechild
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... Gonna disagree on this one Pancho, feeling quite positive, off day for Rooney means narrow Villa win |
rocky5
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... i`m sitting on pancho`s fence lol,can`t see us scoring,in the style of mc hammer its pummel time |
RockSteady
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... I don't think we'll get pummelled - our defence is too good for that. It will be very diffucult to get anything from the game tough  |
Jeddy
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... The key to this match is using the Carling Cup Final as motivation and the fact we've already beaten them once this season. I fancy our chances tomorrow, but it will be a very close game. |
ak_27
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... I think if we have to play Carew we are in big trouble. We will just get pnned in again for the entire 90mins as the ball just won't stick up top with a Carew/ Gabby combo (mainly due to Carews lazyness). I would like to see MON try and start Delph in a 3 man CM with Milner playing that more advanced role. Can't see it happen though as we can all pick the team right now(bar inj) and also what subs will come on, when they come for and who they replace. |
Pancho Villan
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...I would like to see MON try and start Delph in a 3 man CM with Milner playing that more advanced role. So would I, but he won't I agree we need to make some attempt to hang onto the ball. Our only hope is if they don't score early and we can frustrate them. |
MerryMan
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... Daft prediction I know, but Villa to win 3-1. Paddy power will give you 41-1 on that score. Cover the bet with the win at 4-1 and draw at 7-2. Like damo, says MON will get the players up for the game. Our defense and midfield are better than theirs, I really believe they are. They just have world class in the form of rooney and an incredible belife structre with a cultre of winning. They expect to win and play with a confidence that liberates their ability. Tomorrow night MON will give our players the same belife and we could be in store for an upset. I'd really like to albrighton start with downing in the hole. 2nd choice would be delph in the middle with a free role. 3rd choice is to start with the fonz alongside gabby. All 3 would be great but i fully expect MON to go with either JC stumbling his way through the match like an old drunk or coronation streets very own chesney dazzling us with his impressions of houdini. PS: Damo, thanks for the competition win, can't wait for game and not been to the 82 lounge before. Be good to watch us go toe to toe with united again. |
Pancho Villan
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... Lawro Speaks ! Aston Villa v Manchester United |
nirad dreepaul
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... It will be very difficult for Aston Villa not to concede any goal to a fifth matches in a row.Manchester United are in a great form and every match they score about three or four goals.My prediction 0-2. |
Gallie
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... Damian, I know your a stats man, and I know you also get frustrated (like most on here) with MON's lack of subs, so I think you'll find the following stat interesting. http://www.statbunker.com/football/btb/index.php?PL=competition&CompID=279&statType=goalsagainst The thing is that Villa not only have the best defensive record in the league (18 conceeded), we also have the best home defence (7) and best away defence (11). Now while this is a brilliant stat the interesting thing to note is that in the last 10 minutes of games only Birmingham (7), Blackburn (  , Burnley (10), Wigan (9) and Hull (10) have conceeded more than we have with 6. Now, i'd like to make it clear that i'm a huge MON fan and think that the sun shines out of his, let's just say where it usually doesn't shine, but I do get frustrated in games where we're a goal up 10 minutes to go and you can see the goal coming. Some games are just crying out for Delph or someone else with fresh legs to help out the defence. Change to 4-5-1 and close up shop. |
Chiefy
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... Oh dear we are all very down today. We wont run away with it but I fancy a 1-0 win to us and the last 20mins under constant pressure from utd. John "lazy" Carew will get hauled off at half time and we will go 4-5-1. Early goal for us lets hav it |
nirad dreepaul
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... It will be very difficult to Aston Villa for not conceding any goals for a fifth matches in a row.Manchester United are in a great form and they score about three to four goals per match.My prediction 0-2 |
WinsforVilla
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... I agree absolutely ak_27 (especially the last paragraph). I would also like to see 2 proper full backs selected, but that won't happen either! |
Chiefy
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... Who knows JC might decide to start playing like we know he can, he loves the big games does old JC.. Come on we have done them before this season on there own patch, Rooney is there key man and I fancy the Dunney monster to look after him all night and tuck him away in his pocket, which will them get Roo bags wound up like he does....... Are tactics are right from the start we will have this lot  |
Damian
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... Gallie i am a fan of the stats and i do like that one we grind out results by not putting them to bed and the worst thing is we dont protect them when we have got them - even the manager commented on this at the start of the season: http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/...e-players/ |
ak_27
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...Our defense and midfield are better than theirs, I really believe they are. Yes i agree with the defense but i can't agree with the midfield. Did you not see how our midfield got beaten on Sat by Spurs? Tomorrow night will tell a lot but i can see Fletcher bossing the CM and Scholes and co controlling the play, probing and passing it around like they normally do at VP. I really hope im wrong as i would love it more then anything to do a double(even a treble) over Utd but i just don't see it happening. Only way i see us winning is scoring one and then putting in a great defensive performance from that point on. But this Utd is a different team to that we played a few months ago. They are far stronger at the back now and their midfield is begging to tick. Even Nani is on fire and we all know how Rooney is playing right now. Tough tough game ahead which is why i would like to see us put an extra body in the CM. And by this i don't mean the ginger ghost. |
PaulMcGrathsGoneAWOL
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... If one thing is guarenteed its that we will be pummelled, the only question is do we have enough and will we get that little bit of luck that helps us either get a draw or a one nil. Ofcause if we can only beat utd once this month Id take a loss tomorrow as we all would. I really think the bigger game for us is at the end of the month. |
PaulMcGrathsGoneAWOL
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... BTW that Youtube link made me embarrased to be a brummie, embarrased to be Villa and embarresed to be a human being, please take it down, you shouldnt be advertising that drivel. |
Chiefy
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...Only way i see us winning is scoring one and then putting in a great defensive performance from that point on. That is the way we are going to win |
Chiefy
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... That song is SHOCKING !!!!! It is possibly the worst song I have ever heard, who on earth gave her permission to sing that and advertise it as Villa's Wembley song. Embarrassing I would rather Charles and Eddy sing a song for us than that it made my ears hurt  Our wemberleeeeee song is as follows : On the p^%$ my Lord on the p$£^ and so on and so on and so forth |
ak_27
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...That is the way we are going to win Could do. Dunne loves playing Utd. He seems to keep his best performances for the big games. |
Chiefy
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... The Dunney monster will keep Rooney all quiet all evening, which will wind roo bags right up he hates it when he cant play |
Andy Rock
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... I think MON is moulding Villa into a Man Utd type of side. Whilst we're not close to being their class as of yet, we play fast, counter-attacking football, utilise our pace and have a fantastic work ethic. What we lack at the moment - but with investment can attain - is the real star quality players that can retain the ball for long periods, have the bottle to take players on in the centre of the field (not just wings) and take chances. Basically all we need is Rooney and we'll be up there :-) |
MerryMan
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...Yes i agree with the defense but i can't agree with the midfield I don't think our midfield has hit anything like form yet. Only milner and petrov are playing at a decent level. Once downing and webcam raise their game our midfield is stronger than uniteds. Valencia and Nani can be great on their day but i wouldn't swap them for downing and webcam. Fletcher is better than he gets credit for but he's no jimmy milner. As amazing as scholes and giggs are they're just too old now. Anderson is average, hargreaves is lame, and carrick is worse than petrov (although i would swap him as he's youger, bigger, has more potential, and is english). What's more, NRC is solid as a defensive mid and delph and albrighton look like they're good enough to become top players. Although i must admit, I do find it hard not to see through my claret & blue tinted glasses. |
thetwoyoungies
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... just heard the song, what a pile of dog cr*p, think she should stuff the song up her ar*e with the rest of the sh*t!!! |
Chiefy
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...I do find it hard not to see through my claret & blue tinted glasses. I have some of them arent they great time to worry is when you get THE MULE spec's I have only worn mine recently but they do make a difference |
Chiefy
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...just heard the song, what a pile of dog cr*p, think she should stuff the song up her ar*e with the rest of the sh*t thats the song: you can stick your song right up your arse, you can stick your crappy song right up your arse. We would pay attention if you had your tits out but because you havent and your song is S£$£ you can stick your crappy song right up your arse. then back to the beginning anyone fancy doing a reply to her song that would be hilarious  |
Gallie
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... Damian, Isn't that what makes the stat even more interesting. Even though MON's aware of the issue, he still makes the same mistakes. That said though, there has been a massive improvement since last year regarding sloppy late goals conceeded, it's just interesting that such a high ratio of ours are still in the last 10 minutes. |
MerryMan
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...THE MULE spec's Ha, I've got a pair of those as well chiefy. If he's good enough for every manager in the game and everyone that's played with him, then he's good enough for me. Wish he scored from time to time though. Not asking for much, maybe just 1 goal in every 4 and the odd match winner. Watching him get the winner from the wet wooden seats at turfmoor is a very distant memory now. |
Chiefy
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...Wish he scored from time to time though that would be nice, anyone would think its his job |
Damian
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... Gallie it is interesting - what is even more interesting is that he wont bring on players and give them enough time in a match to make a difference. when man utd had put the game to bed against pompey wiht something like 25 mins to go the other day - they made 3 changes bringing off three key players - to give a little extra rest - could you ever see o'neill doing that? |
Chiefy
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...yep u got it,sum serious words need 2 b spoken 2moz nite with him he thinks he is Simon Cowell the doug factor |
RAB
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... just read this article - wondered what you all thought of it? http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_5927836,00.html |
doubledown9
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... This is a difficult one to call; one the one hand we have possibly the most effective attacking unit in the league and on the other "the best defensive record in the league". Stats are meaningless without context. I placed that in inverted commas as it is all relative. Man Utd (and in fact Chelsea) have only conceded 2 more than us. We have both lost the same number (5) of games, but we have drawn 6 more than Utd. So on 6 occasions Man U have picked up 2 more points than Villa. Therefore, one can argue that if Man U had drawn 6 more games they would be 7th like us. Returning to the question of defenses, apparently Man Utds has been poor this year yet they are two goals off the best defense in the league, factor in their 'missing ronaldo' attack and we see the bigger picture. In order for Utd to be in 7th, the opposition for those 6 games would have required over 5 goals per game against a defense nearly as mean as our own. You can say, we defended brilliantly against Utd at Old Trafford, but the truth is that we were lucky. Ok we missed a couple of sitters as well, but Utd had countless chances, when as a team they were struggling for form. Sooner or later our/their 'luck' or whatever you want to call it will regress to the mean and Rooney et al will no longer be hitting the post or crossbar. Utds defense is not leaky as some in the media have stated and sitting deep and breaking can only work for so long. MON will know this, whether he does anything about it is another matter. If Heskey is not fit, then I would go 5 in the middle (Delph/Sidwell with Milner AM) and leave out Carew (i'm glad to see other people finally noticing what a lazy prat he is). Yes sometimes he is unplayable, but against this Utd team, in their current vein of form he is too much of a gamble, we can ill afford passengers. That said, if MON goes 451/433, or whatever you want to call it, he will be labeled as boring/defensive etc, on here and in the press and will doubtless have those buffoons at VP behind the dug out pissing and moaning as per usual. The formation does not matter, as even in a 442, albeit with Heskey who actually works, we play a 451/433 without the ball, it is the performance which counts. This game is important for both teams and not just to their respective league positions. There is a lot riding on it in terms of psychological advantage heading to Wembeley. Both teams will be fired up for it, as no player will want to be embarrassed by their opposite number (If it were Arsenal in the final, would Clicy play after the spin cycle Young gave him the other week?), perhaps more so for Utd than Villa. Villa play the same team, Utd rotate, so their is perhaps more motivation for the likes of Nani, Owen, Berbatov, Neville, the da Silvas, Gibson, Fletcher et al than there is for Gabby, Milner, Young, Downing, Petrov, Dunne, Collins, etc. In fact the only player who will play on Wednesday with a chance of shaking up the established team for the Cup Final will be Big Brad, go figure. If Villa want to get anything out of this match and indeed the one in London in a couple of weeks, they need to take the game to Man U, much like we did twice against Arsenal last season, where only poor defending and poor luck prevented us from picking up 6 points. Incidentally reading a couple of Match reports from the 2-2 epic, Steve Sidwell comes in for praise and at least two Villa (Almunia overall) MOTM mentions. |
doubledown9
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... This is a difficult one to call; one the one hand we have possibly the most effective attacking unit in the league and on the other "the best defensive record in the league". Stats are meaningless without context. I placed that in inverted commas as it is all relative. Man Utd (and in fact Chelsea) have only conceded 2 more than us. We have both lost the same number (5) of games, but we have drawn 6 more than Utd. So on 6 occasions Man U have picked up 2 more points than Villa. Therefore, one can argue that if Man U had drawn 6 more games they would be 7th like us. Returning to the question of defenses, apparently Man Utds has been poor this year yet they are two goals off the best defense in the league, factor in their 'missing ronaldo' attack and we see the bigger picture. In order for Utd to be in 7th, the opposition for those 6 games would have required over 5 goals per game against a defense nearly as mean as our own. You can say, we defended brilliantly against Utd at Old Trafford, but the truth is that we were lucky. Ok we missed a couple of sitters as well, but Utd had countless chances, when as a team they were struggling for form. Sooner or later our/their 'luck' or whatever you want to call it will regress to the mean and Rooney et al will no longer be hitting the post or crossbar. Utds defense is not leaky as some in the media have stated and sitting deep and breaking can only work for so long. MON will know this, whether he does anything about it is another matter. If Heskey is not fit, then I would go 5 in the middle (Delph/Sidwell with Milner AM) and leave out Carew (i'm glad to see other people finally noticing what a lazy prat he is). Yes sometimes he is unplayable, but against this Utd team, in their current vein of form he is too much of a gamble, we can ill afford passengers. That said, if MON goes 451/433, or whatever you want to call it, he will be labeled as boring/defensive etc, on here and in the press and will doubtless have those buffoons at VP behind the dug out pissing and moaning as per usual. The formation does not matter, as even in a 442, albeit with Heskey who actually works, we play a 451/433 without the ball, it is the performance which counts. This game is important for both teams and not just to their respective league positions. There is a lot riding on it in terms of psychological advantage heading to Wembeley. Both teams will be fired up for it, as no player will want to be embarrassed by their opposite number (If it were Arsenal in the final, would Clicy play after the spin cycle Young gave him the other week?), perhaps more so for Utd than Villa. Villa play the same team, Utd rotate, so their is perhaps more motivation for the likes of Nani, Owen, Berbatov, Neville, the da Silvas, Gibson, Fletcher et al than there is for Gabby, Milner, Young, Downing, Petrov, Dunne, Collins, etc. In fact the only player who will play on Wednesday with a chance of shaking up the established team for the Cup Final will be Big Brad, go figure. If Villa want to get anything out of this match and indeed the one in London in a couple of weeks, they need to take the game to Man U, much like we did twice against Arsenal last season, where only poor defending and poor luck prevented us from picking up 6 points. Incidentally reading a couple of Match reports from the 2-2 epic, Steve Sidwell comes in for praise and at least two Villa (Almunia overall) MOTM mentions. |
tubbydunne
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... What a difference O'Neill has made to this club since arriving. We are at the business end of the season and Villa are in a cup final, still in the F.A. Cup and in the mix for Champions League qualification, yet a lot of fans are still not happy. Why, because expectations have risen. O'Neill has improved our lot and now we want more. Man U are coming to town and as usual at this point in the season they are hitting top gear. They are steamrolling everyone in sight but yet most of the respected pundits are only predicting a point for them at Villa Park. Why? Because O'Neill has created the meanest defence in the Premiership. What a feat after losing a legend like Laursen. The Villa fans must be holding O'Neill up as an idol now? No some are satisfied but a lot are slating him because the team don't pass the ball around the park in pretty patterns often enough for their liking. They also slate him because he does not throw his younger players into premiership action often enough(even though they don't have a clue about these players)He also gets slated because he hasn't got a world class striker. O'Neill has Villa operating at a whole new level now and is constantly improving the team. The fans have adjusted to the improvements and are impatient for more. They have forgotten how much worse off we were a few short years ago. Some fans can't accept steady progress and have had their heads turned by the quick fix merchants and want money thrown at everything, for these fans O'Neill has become a victim of his own success. |
villatx
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... I would say 0-0 or 1-1 it has draw written all over it if our defense continually plays well. ill be pleasantly surprised if we win, however i will not be surprised if we got beat 2-0 or 3-0 lets hope the defense peforms as usual, and maybe our attack grabs a goal or two |
Badger
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...just read this article - wondered what you all thought of it? If you read what he actually said, I think he has a very good point. But so what, it's nice that he gets picked occasionally. He talks loads of rubbish, imo. I'm actually more interested in this line; "We tried to sign players, but it didn't work and we have to accept that," If Arse are struggling to sign players with CL pretty much nailed on, what chance do we have? Perhaps this explains why MON is "useless" for not bringing a top notch striker in? |
Gallie
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... Damian, The one thing that gets me most about this is his lack of use of Delfouneso. He seems to score every time he plays. I know he's only just turned 19 last week and MON has publicly stated that he wants to protect him from the pressure of the Premier League, but surely 15 to 20 minutes against Wigan, Hull, Pompey etc is exactly what he needs to get him to this level (or see if he has what it takes at this level at least). Especially as he was able to score against a bloody good Hamburg side in Europe last season when he was given the chance. |
Chiefy
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...Just listened to that song.... dont ever do it again your ears will start bleeding shall we do a reply like the damon and that bird ??? hahaha |
Chiefy
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... tubbydunne agree with you there, the modern day manager loads of pressure on them these days having to manage fans expectations as well as the players i wouldnt like to do it. Hell I break down when i dont sign anyone on Champ manager !!! |
Genital Grinder
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... 0-0 We can defend, but can't score to save our lives against decent teams. |
SidCowanslovechild
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... Bloody hell Double Down, so good you had to post it twice? I hope you didn't have to type it all again At the risk of becoming even more unpopular than I already am, I like Wenger. While he is a little one eyed and backs his team (some on here could learn a little on that!) he is often pretty generous about other teams. He has brought some great football to England and even plays the odd Brit now. I'm not sure his long ball and physical remarks were particularly meant as a criticism - just the way we play football in England and particularly at Villa (I sound like Damian, some one kill me immediately)! |
Chiefy
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...We can defend, but can't score to save our lives against decent teams Chelski ?? Man Utd at Old Trafford ?? |
MerryMan
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... Oh god, that song is embarassing! NOT IN MY NAME!!!! We're the champi ownies???? God loves a trier so credit to them. I've just begged them to take it down before every small heath fan see's it and we end up making their otherwise misrable year! |
Gallie
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... tubbydunne, I could not agree more with you. MON deserves huge credit from every true Villa fan. He really has turned this place around in a relatively short time (3.5 years). Everyone can see we're much better now than we were then, and that we can actually compete on any given day against any team in England...and therefore probably Europe too? That said though, we have to analyse where we can take the team onto the next level, where we will be competing with these teams over the course of the full season rather than any given day. I for one don't think we're too far away from that point as our squad certainly has potential, but we have to start using that potential and blooding players like Delfouneso and Delph. |
MerryMan
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... Tubbydunne I'm also with you. MON is not above critism and he has faults. But i for one love the man and i'm very very glad he's at the helm. He has exceeded expectation since the day he arrived. With the resource at his disposal anything above 7th is punching above our weight. But with the crop of young talent in our team, villa will break the strangle hold of 6 wealthier clubs. If not this year then soon. We have a lot to thank MON and randy for. |
Chiefy
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...We have a lot to thank MON and randy for that we do, feeling the love on the blog today, i even stuck up for the MULE  |
Chiefy
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... Liam Ridgewell reckons the BLUES have got the fear factor fear of what not getting all they can eat at the after match buffet ?? |
ak_27
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... Gallie and Tubby sorry but if you pump 140m into a club like Villa then a lot of managers would have us where we are today. I do appreciate what MON has done for us but i do not buy into this MON = God that many on here do. He has some terrific traits but some very frustrating one's also that border on weakness IMO at the very least that could hinder our develpoment. But again sorry the main difference in this club in the last 4 years has been Learner not MON. His money is the major factor in our revival. |
Chiefy
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...Gallie and Tubby sorry but if you pump 140m into a club like Villa then a lot of managers would have us where we are today. Wrong take man city for example, there is always one who has to upset the apple cart But again sorry the main difference in this club in the last 4 years has been Learner not MON. there isnt many other managers who would get as much out of some of players as MON has he is well know for getting the best out of players with only SAF maybe in front of him ?? come on AK even i am starting to get of the MULE's back ( thats EMULE ) |
ak_27
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...Wrong take man city for example, there is always one who has to upset the apple cart What position were City in when they sacked Hughes? MON has he is well know for getting the best out of players with only SAF maybe in front of him ?? Yes and no. He has got the best out of Milner but has he been getting the best of out Young? Carew? I don't blame him for Carew but with the likes of Young and Gabby and the untouchables is he really getting the best out of them? Young for one has become complacent and also is running the same 12/13 players into the ground getting the best from your players? There are players in our team that know that no matter their perfomances they will start the next game regardless(or even be replaced during a game). I don't call that getting the best out of players. |
Badger
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... Where does this £140 mill come from? I assume you're adding the club's purchase price in that? If so there's a big difference. So it's £70ish mill on the team? As for MON, not being perfect, I agree. But show me one who is. Even SAF has been known to get it wrong a good few times, especially with some of the money he's wasted. |
ak_27
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...Where does this £140 mill come from? Nope that's what he had invested since taking charge. http://www.guardian.co.uk/foot...ston-villa As for MON, not being perfect, I agree. I agree. But sometimes this MON = God comments really annoy me. I really think many managers would have us in this position and it remains to be seen if he can take us on from here. If he does then i will gladly join the MON = God club. But until then he is surely not above questioning of some really odd decisons he makes? |
Chiefy
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... AK -- if you could imagine i was dancing round the blog with petels and insence sticks then you come along with your big size 8.5's and upset the vibe......I do see your point although I would say we have had the best out of Young its getting it back that is the problem, ok he has a few things that are blindingly annoying but overall MON is good for our club and overall he has done a brilliant job He knows what he is doing and obviously has a plan if he didnt we wouldnt be where we are but he is only human and i bet you he has sat down after a game and thought what he should have or shouldnt have done but he is only human |
Chiefy
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...Even SAF has been known to get it wrong a good few times, especially with some of the money he's wasted Djemba Djemba |
RockSteady
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...Even SAF has been known to get it wrong a good few times, especially with some of the money he's wasted.Exactly! Nani, Anderson, Taibi, VERON, Forlan. There's no such thing as a perfect manager so stop whinging! God, some of you would fault a bar of gold if it was given to you! |
Peddler
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... tubby dunne - excellently put and I completely agree. The point about us is that we have not been there and done it yet – we don’t have the same winning mentality as the big teams. It is because of this winning mentality that you know when you watch Man Utd that they will always get that last minute winner. They were never in a million years going to go out to City in the CC semi final, even if it did take another last minute winner. To put it another way, look where Liverpool are now in the league. Their X1 is worse than that of ourselves and Spurs and yet they know how to grind out results and stick at it even when they play badly. Give it a couple of seasons and we will be able to do the same. We weren`t the races on Sat (it happens sometimes) and yet we didn’t lose. Last season we would have lost – progress has been made. In relation to this debate about our style etc, Chelsea`s win over Arsenal on Sunday said it all - they were powerful, well organised and quick. What is good football can be debated all day long, but essentially if it is effective it has to be good by definition. Only if we ever make the champions league will be able to afford players who have the technique and experience to keep hold of the ball and spray it around in the manner that fabregas, scholes, ballack and alonso have done for the past few seasons. Spurs have spent obscene amounts of money, as have City and as have Liverpool. They all have greater financial muscle than us and have bought players in a different class to Downing and Sidwell (Modric, Torres, Adebayor to name a few) and yet look at the table ? Finally, the groaning that surrounds Agbonlahor at every match is completely baffling. He is a credit to Aston Villa football club. A Birmingham boy who has shattered every goalscoring record in the youth team and now finds himself an outsider for the world cup squad should make him a far bigger legend than that lazy unit Carew. Agbonlahor runs is socks off, is built like an ox and when he doesn`t have to think too much time to think about finishing he knows where the goal is. MON knows what he is doing, lets just get behind them in what could be the most exciting finish to a season in years. |
ak_27
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...if you could imagine i was dancing round the blog with petels and insence sticks then you come along with your big size 8.5's and upset the vibe Sorry.  overall he has done a brilliant job This is where i disagree. I think he has done a good(ish) job and no more. This is where i think you cannot underestimate the bonus of getting rid of Ellis is to the club and and the imput of a hell of a lot of money into the club the size of Villa. He has done the job that should have been expected of him from day one and so far no more than that. Not saying he won't (even though I personally have my doubts) but until he has really done something brilliant can we wait until then to start saying he has done a brilliant job? |
ronrabbit
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... Im a little confused, i thought this was a villa blog, you know Aston villa, The aston villa that are in the league cup final, still in the fa cup, two points off forth place with a game in hand. seriosly am i missing something? why the depression? has it been better than that at villa park in the last 10 years? OR am i on the wrong blog? |
Badger
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...Nope that's what he had invested since taking charge. So why don't we have 10 players at an average price of £14 mill? Or 20 players at an average price of £7 mill? I'd suggest that includes the price of the club. But am going to check. But until then he is surely not above questioning of some really odd decisons he makes? I don't think he's perfect by any means and even the die-hard optimists don't think he's perfect either, I'm sure. Indeed, I and other positives can't understand his lack of subs and refusing to beef up the midfield when we look thin etc. But what annoys me is the simple calling him "useless" or "clueless". And it's not "questioning" anyway, imo. It's more like a persistent witch hunt. Some people will just never give him any credit, no matter what he does. |
Chiefy
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...Im a little confused, i thought this was a villa blog, you know Aston villa, The aston villa that are in the league cup final, still in the fa cup, two points off forth place with a game in hand. seriosly am i missing something? why the depression? has it been better than that at villa park in the last 10 years? OR am i on the wrong blog? I am not telling tales or pointing fingers but it was AK-27's fault honestly I am even being nice to EMULE |
Neil G
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... Not been oin here for a while...to be honest got a bit bored of reading the same negative stuff ....although it does seem a lot more positve. Also I think the reason the same stuff is written over and over is that we still aren't using any subs so its the same team week in week out. Can we please just not try having one up front and giving delph a go. Dare I say it even have the fonz as the lone striker! Going to the spuds last week proved that the team as it is surely can not be seen as irreplaceable! How about we go at utd with downing delph petrov milner young in midfield as many above has said! anyway my predication we lose 2-1 but we will play well and it will be a utd goal in the last 10 mins! Not being negative I just think anything we get will be a bonus. I'm more bothered about us playing well! Last thing on the Mon debate how can anyone say he hasn't done an amazing job and fully back him I don't know! UTV |
ronrabbit
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... I am even being nice to EMULE I draw the line there. Although i will conceede compared to John carew he does work hard. |
Chiefy
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... I think everyone at VILLA has done a brilliant job right down to the people that serve me my BOVRIL at half time we are a team going places, a team that have the top lot properly thinking about how they are going to handle us. We have a lot of things going for us and we are lucky to half the team at the top we have and lucky MON has brought some of the best youth in the country. Hell we could be like pompey, man utd or the pool and look at their owners and managers apart from SAF |
doubledown9
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... Badger The 140 figure does not include the purchase price, but does include money for the Holte Pub, Bodymore Heath, wages(I think currently in the region of 40 mil pa) and of course transfers. |
Chiefy
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...I am even being nice to EMULE love is all a round us its even in the MULE |
Chiefy
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...Spurs have spent obscene amounts of money, as have City and as have Liverpool. They all have greater financial muscle than us and have bought players in a different class to Downing and Sidwell (Modric, Torres, Adebayor to name a few) and yet look at the table ? Alas is that common sense i see upon the yonder |
Damian
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... Re. this £140mn loans ... think about it for a minute lets say bodymoor cost £20mn - it didn't lets say the holte pub cost £10mn - it didn't lets say all the work on villa park cost £20mn - it didn't where exactly has all this money gone? factor in the net spend on average, each summer is just over £25mn factor in the £30mn increased tv money (that is on top of what we were already getting) factor in that wages are £50mn compared to revenue of £70mn - based on the last filed accounts where exactly has £140mn in loans gone? it wasn't as if we were not exactly making money or were in any debt - now we have, all of a sudden, £140mn in debt - loan is a debt whatever way you want to look at it and the accounts will be coming out at the end of this month too - i think actual debt will be less than £140mn = but still, where has all this debt gone? |
ak_27
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...And it's not "questioning" anyway, imo. I'll give him credit when he deserves it. He deserves it for putting together such a great defense and also spotting that Milner was a top CM. As for a with hunt im not on one. I just say it as i see it. |
Chiefy
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...where exactly has £140 gone down the back of the sofa ?? carews strip club habit ?? |
ak_27
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...I am not telling tales or pointing fingers but it was AK-27's fault honestly It was too nice on here today. |
MerryMan
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...pump 140m into a club like Villa We've had a net investment of £85 to £90 million in players since MON and randy took over. In addition to that randy has forked out to finish Bodymoor Heath (£8.5 million), and the Holte Hotel (£4 million). Not to mention the planned North Stand development which should see crowds of 50k + at Villa Park. He's also had to cover the cost of keeping ticket prices low and increased player wages. Randy is a legend and he deserves as much credit as MON. But all these investments are precisely that, invesments. They make sound business sense and he will get a return on that invesment. Any loans are repaid at a fair rate all these investments have added value to the business. Randy is a business man. I'm really glad he owns the company because we couldn't ask for a better owner. But he's not doing this for charity. |
Chiefy
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...also spotting that Milner was a top CM we have had this debate before and we agreed that it was I who realised this and let MON know |
Badger
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...The 140 figure does not include the purchase price, but does include money for the Holte Pub, Bodymore Heath, wages(I think currently in the region of 40 mil pa) and of course transfers. The figures I've read sort of concur with that. Approx £100 million according to this; http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk...sicht.html it wasn't as if we were not exactly making money or were in any debt Damian, So you obviously never saw an article that said we were in £8 mill of debt. I'll see if I can find it. |
ak_27
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...we have had this debate before and we agreed that it was I who realised this and let MON know Then im taking credit for Dunne. |
Chiefy
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...Any loans are repaid at a fair rate all these investments have added value to the business. interest at 2% above base rate But he's not doing this for charity I do agree with that although ACORNS was precisely that what ever he does he is making sure that it will increase the future value of the club. Doesnt any owner ??? not if your a POMPEY, MAN UTD or LIVERPOO fan |
Chiefy
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...we have had this debate before and we agreed that it was I who realised this and let MON know As long as I don't have to take credit for the MULE |
ak_27
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...The figures I've read sort of concur with that. It would be interesting to see a table showing what each other club in the PL have spent in the last 4 years and then look at the current table and compare money spent to position. Im too lazy for that so anyone else want to? Damien this probably falls under your job. |
Damian
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... Badger i suspect you will find it. then go look for the one about the sale of the serpentine which was used to pay it off. i think you will find that the debt we were in was a structured low interest overdraft - but i may be wrong on that as for this 2% above interest ... it was about £4mn in the last filed accounts - nice return that |
Chiefy
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...as for this 2% above interest ... it was about £4mn in the last filed accounts - nice return that very nice return but no body does nothing for nothing. All we can be thankful for is that our owner (as far as we are aware) putting his own expense's through the villa books or taking dividends out of us yet |
Badger
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...i suspect you will find it What's that supposed to mean? Seems very much to me that you think I have some sort of agenda? Anyway, I've found it because it was only the other day. Now it's by Ian Robinson and we all know he had an agenda, so either believe it or don't. If it's true, it certainly shows the measure of Ellis and the state we were in. How some people forget; When he sold to Randy the club was £10m in debt and the banks refusing to extend it further, the work on the training ground had stopped, at least one supplier had not been paid. Also we had just had the infamous players letter, Barry was about to be sold to Pompey and only 7000 season tickets sold before MON arrived. pulled from; http://astonvilla-views.com/20...ythmakers/ as for this 2% above interest ... it was about £4mn in the last filed accounts - nice return that That's next to nothing, he could have got as much, if not more leaving it in the bank. |
Damian
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... Chiefy nothing wrong with lerner whatsover would be nice if he put more money in or did what the man city owner did and transfer the debt into extra shares - in essence wiping off the debt but in terms of what the owner has done to date - everyone has to be happy - but is it enough - only time will tell that other stuff chiefy - we will find out soon but the £4mn he took out in interest on his money - call it what you want but it is a dividend, it is his expenses, it is a salary - we can gloss it over any way we want - he made £4mn on his investment and the accounts ill likely show he made a lot more than that for the following year |
Chiefy
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that is very very true and i suspect that other owners do the same but at very different rates or worse secure the club against a loan look at uniteds and pools interest payments |
doubledown9
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... Damian, from that link Badger posted: net spend since the start of the 06/07 season is £100mil. Plus £40+ on wages per season, thats £160 (approx). mil, plus Bodymore - £8.5mil, plus the Holte Pub - £4.5 100 160 8.5 4.5 ------ 273.00 Couple this with whatever it actually costs to run the club, ie admin, coaching staff, UTILITIES, INSURANCE, medical staff, policing costs, stewarding costs, catering, christ even the cost of having kits, towels, tablecloths and napkins laundered. I know a lot of this may seen like small details, but having run a 1 million + pound business I can tell you it all ads up. Bodymore heath may have cost £8.5mil to build, but I bet it costs a fair ammount to simply run the place. How much would a health-spa type gym place have to charge for that kind of luxury if it only had 50 or so customers? |
Damian
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... doubledown9 i'm aware it all adds up - i am merely trying to point out that none of us know where that £140mn went or if the purchase price is included in it we will find out as and when the accounts come out |
doubledown9
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... You do however, overstate the TV revenue, yes it improved massively, however, it is not 30mil per club more. Villa received: 06/07: £22m 07/08: £42m 08/09: £43m Thats £107m, plus roughly £31m in ticket sales, (based on a sellout every game, an average ticket price of £30 and 25 home games per season), (31*3)+107= £200m in revenue since 06. So just on the 273 mil figure from above we can see where half of that 140 mil has gone. The other 70 mil might very well have gone on the incidentals I listed above. According to the ever reliably NotW Martin himself is on 3 or 4 mil himself, there be another 10 gone from the 'missing 70' |
keefvilla
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... Oh good can I join in? I thought the sale of the serpentine was used to buy Petrov, or are we now admitting that Lerner paid for that transfer? |
Badger
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...Oh good can I join in? I thought the sale of the serpentine was used to buy Petrov, or are we now admitting that Lerner paid for that transfer? Good question. I vaguely remember that something like that (that we didn't have a pot to piss in for transfers), but don't know for sure. Maybe that was used to pay off the aforementioned £10 million debt? |
keefvilla
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... I can't believe the whole of Aston including Aston Hall and grounds is worth £10m |
Chiefy
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...... I can but its not its worth a hell of a lot more than that |
andy5759
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... Afternoon all, can someone help please? Last night I mentioned the video of MoN at Bournville, FenianVillan asked for a link. I cannot find it anywhere. Please post link so I can bring it to his attention when he's back. Thanks UTV |
Pancho Villan
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... Blimey, I see the bread-heads have taken over the site. 2% here, 4% there. A man needs a rub down with the financial times after reading this blog. But speculate to accumulate, that's the thing. Did not MON himself say that 4th was the Holy Grail ? |
doubledown9
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... Keef, would that not have more to do with the fact Lerner did not get full control until after that window had closed, so MON needed short term cash. |
Badger
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...I can't believe the whole of Aston including Aston Hall and grounds is worth £10m ????? who or what is this ?? It was the area that Asda used to be on. And the leisure centre before that. Ah, sold for £7.31 mill; The net proceeds from the sale will allow Aston Villa to reduce debt within the group and will also be used for general corporate purposes. http://www.eufootball.biz/fina..._sale.html Anyone need a researcher? |
Chiefy
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...It was the area that Asda used to be on. still have no idea at all sorry for being dense but the only asda i can think of is at one stop |
Badger
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...Blimey, I see the bread-heads have taken over the site. 2% here, 4% there. A man needs a rub down with the financial times after reading this blog We're under discreet instructions from the gaffer to become a little more highbrow It was the area that Asda used to be on. Oh and back to a leisure centre now. I forgot that. |
Badger
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...Badger I'm on the case me old mucker |
keefvilla
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... Chiefy Villa leisure centre under motorway, Aston Hall road by Aston Social Club. doubledown9 The money raised by selling the serpentine was used to reduce debts or to buy Petrov. It could not be used for both. I am just stating that Lerner either paid the transfer fee for Petrov or paid off club's debts. |
Badger
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... Andy, I don't think it was on video. Well I never saw it. But it was on BRMB. http://mediaweb.musicradio.com...p?s=14&e=0 It's IE only (or wouldn't load in FF for me). Hit "listen again" at the top. Hit "football forums with tom Ross" Then "Villa forum November 2009" parts 1, 2 and 3 |
Badger
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...still have no idea at all sorry for being dense but the only asda i can think of is at one stop Oh to be so young The bit at the back of the area between the Aston social and the church, basically. |
Badger
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... Here's an interesting one. Stan makes the list for "top 10 players outside the top 4"; http://blog.sport.co.uk/Footba..._Four.aspx That'll have some choking I bet |
andy5759
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... Badger That was compiled with a maximum of two players from one club. Would those two be the ones you would pick from Villa? Personally I would go for Brad and Dunne. After all, it's our defence that's getting all the acclaim lately. If there was no maximum I'd add Stan, Jimmy, DJ, Ash, Carlos, Gabby, Emule, Warnock and Collins to that list. |
Badger
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... I certainly wouldn't argue. Those glasses of (keef's?) are great aren't they? o-o/ Note the improvements. They have bits that go over your ears |
cyprusvilla
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... fonz and gabby up front man mark rooney and dont score any own goals and i think we might have it in the bag |
SidCowanslovechild
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... Andy, rose tinted ones on there me thinks. DJ - good start, faded a little in my book and missed 2 sitters (still think he'll come good though) Emule - done better lately but???? Ash - my fave player until Delph and Fonz burst beyond him as world class players (here's hopeing) but not fulfilled his potential this year If I was very harsh could add Stan not scored a league goal all season (I don't think), Carlos not been great when played right back and Collins skinned by an 18 year old against West Ham. Being pretty harsh there though |
andy5759
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... In the old days of the alt.binaries on user groups (remember that?) these keyboard signatures were to be found on a thread called alt.w****rs.signatures. Just thought I'd mention that. o-o/ 0 --- |
doubledown9
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... Brad-Given Young-Dunne-King-Warnock Richards-Carlos-Hangeland-Bale Young-Modric-Milner-Huddlestone Lennon-Cahill-Petrov-Arteta Tevez-Defoe-Bent-Gabby for a non Top 4 22 that's not bad. |
SidCowanslovechild
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... Thanks Andy, taking your feedack on board! """"" {^0*0^} ~ Shit, can't help myself, does any one know how to do chins? |
oscars arse
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... We will lose - heavily. This is the beginning of a slide into oblivion, don't say I haven't warned you. |
andy5759
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... Yep, alignment not good, key strokes not consistent. Time to get back to football. |
SidCowanslovechild
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... What exactly is oblivion? 8th place and losing a cup final or the Conference? |
andy5759
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... There used to be a freelance journalist around Fleet Street called Lunchtime O'Blivion. What's the betting that MoN - the master tactician - has got something up his sleeve for the ManU game? I could believe that he has had this game in mind for the last two weeks, and has got the lads working up for it. Prediction - 1-0 Villa win again, or maybe a draw 1-1. |
john doyle
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... back to the man u game think must play gabby on his own up frond and delph in the middel please not sidwell hes just a pub player why he sold gardner and kept the ginger wiger i will never know try and hold out for 60 mins then bring on the fonz to grab the winner heres hoping |
Greg1981
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...What exactly is oblivion? Having the bluenoses right behind us. Without Gabs goal we'd be level. No actually that's armageddon. |
Pancho Villan
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...Greg1981 said: We need Defoe Horsemen of the Apocalypse I'll get me coat. |
Pancho Villan
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...why he sold gardner and kept the ginger wiger i will never know I know it's not cool to pick up on bad spelling, but the thought of Sidwell as a ginger wigger really made me laugh |
SidCowanslovechild
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... Pancho, made me chuckle Greg, as long as we are above the shitters I am ok, can't even type the alternative |
Nanwasafan
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... Hmmm, I was bored so, I haven't logged in for a bit. You learned few were bored, so you have. My choice - bad. Your choice - good. (Reading: I nearly done wee.) |
Jeddy
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... I recon we should have signed Adam Johnsen, either instead of Downing or as well as. He looks lively against Bolton. Although it is Bolton.......... |
oscars arse
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... I've now taken my anti depressant and have changed my mind about tomorrows game, we will just lose. |
Panos
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... oscars arse, I've now taken my anti depressant and have changed my mind about tomorrows game, we will just lose. Take some more mate, we need to win tomorrow. |
andy5759
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... Double the dose oscars arse. We have the meanest defence and Utd have the most goals. It's like what happens when the irresistible force encounters the immovable object - something's got to give. Utd have only kept 2 clean sheets in the last 8 prem games, we have 11 for the season so far. Take another pill and get behind the lads, I reckon the boys will be well up for this. |
oscars arse
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... You probably won't believe this but the capsules full of happiness are claret and blue!!! |
Badger
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...Take some more mate, we need to win tomorrow. Wouldn't it be ace to do the double over them? Unfortunately I don't see it  Heart says draw. It's lack of goals that's of concern. If Heskey's out, that won't matter goal-wise, but Carew needs to raise his game. But that's a big ask, as he looks so out of sorts. Pass those tablets Oscar |
andy5759
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... When Bent was being suggested back in the summer I realised that our strike partnership would be like Alan Carr - Bent and Gabby. I am sure we will restrict ManU to no more than 1 goal, I can't see us getting more than one, so it's either a 1-0 to us or a 1-1 draw. Unless all of those pretty moves the lads do on the training pitch come off, then it will be 6-1 to us. |
Panos
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...Unfortunately I don't see it smilies/cry.gif You are right Badge, it won't be easy. But if we are good enough to beat Chelsea, we are good enough to beat anyone imo. Head says 0-1, heart...1-0. |
Badger
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... I'd be happy with a draw, as it'd be another decent result against a top team. But then the thought of people saying it was a crap result tomorrow.......... More tablets!!! |
ak_27
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...I'd be happy with a draw, as it'd be another decent result against a top team. It would be a great result. |
Pancho Villan
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...Badger said: I'd rather we had a go at them and lost |
Badger
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...It would be a great result. I reckon so ak. I'd rather we had a go at them and lost Part of me knows what you're saying, but I think every point could be vital Pancho. Our bet bet is not losing many games and hoping others do. Our defence gives us a chance of that. A bit negative I know, but like Big Brad says, this could go right down to the wire. |
THE AV VILLAN
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... Am I allowed to be positive in that I think we can finish 4th. And be nevative about our missing goal scorer!!! |
r0bb0
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... I read somewhere that we haven't done the double over Man U since 1954. Can that be true? We've never beaten them in my lifetime?? If so.....it would put a win tomorrow into perspective. A true once in a lifetime achievement. |
Badger
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...Am I allowed to be positive in that I think we can finish 4th Yes And be nevative about our missing goal scorer!!! Er, which one? I read somewhere that we haven't done the double over Man U since 1954. Can that be true? D'you know what?, that rings a bell. I was wondering why I hate stats so much When you think how many times we've played them, that's totally mad. |
Chiefy
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... Good Morning VILLA BLOG !!!!!!! I can feel it in my water today we are going to do these bunch of MANCS, 2-1 to the Villa and do you know what, I never thought i would say this BUT I actually hope THE MULE is fit !!!!!! Gabby to score and either Milner or THE MULE if he plays we can beat this lot lets soak the pressure up then Bang on the break we got them !!!!!! feeling good today |
James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini
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... I'm with you Chiefy....lets go out there play some beautiful stuff, score some amazing goals and start singing...boring, boring Villa!! ;0) |
Chiefy
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....lets go out there play some beautiful stuff, score some amazing goals and start singing...boring, boring Villa!! Love it great when we go 1-0 up lets start singing that |
DeGough
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... Morning all Here is what is going to happen. Villa win 1-0 tonight and liverpool beaten by Arsenal. Next week City beat Liverpool and Villa beat Burnley. Race is on for fourth and is confirmed on May 1 when Villa beat City. Hooray happy days! |
Chiefy
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...Hooray happy days! Positivity !!!! it must be to early for DAMO lets get some more before he realises it is happening on his blog |
DeGough
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... Of course I left out that we win 1-0 again on Sunday, 28 February 2010 First time ever to do the treble of wins over man utd! |
Pancho Villan
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...Part of me knows what you're saying, but I think every point could be vital Pancho. Badger; there is much in what you say, but remember, winning one game is the same as drawing three. And I think some games have been winnable had MON opted to go for it through pro-active substitutions. We are now under a lot of pressure to put ruthlessly to the sword all teams that we are expected to beat. if Gabby has a dry spell, as he is likely to do, that will be easier said than done as MON didn't buy in January, he won't bring Del Boy on, the Mule doesn't score anyway, and Carew.... well he's big, but not much else at the moment. |
CSM
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... I have feeling we will win, A Young to score the winner in the 8th Minute of overtime. Just a quick poll who do you hate more.....Phil Neville or Gary? |
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... Imagine what it was like for him at school you wouldnt trust anyone called Neville Neville would you bit like Herbert Ellis who on earth would trust someone called Herbert sounds like he should be in an Austin Powers movie |
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