Written by Damian Wednesday, 26 May 2010 08:25
Fifteen more days and the speculation stops for a month. It will stop when the World Cup starts, I'm convinced of it and I'm also convinced we will hear something on the James Milner thing soon as I don't think anyone, the player included, wants this to drag on.
But today, we have rumour after rumour and it is mostly players leaving. First is Curtis is wanted by Spurs and Liverpool, then we have Carew wanted by two teams in Italy and Luke Young is wanted by West Ham and while nobody is saying it is to incentivise them to let us have Parker, I'm sure that will come out later.
We do have a player or two coming to us though, if all the speculation is to be believed. First up; Bobby Zamora to replace Carew and the other one finished the season at Celtic and only got a disappointing 37 goals in his half season. We don't need to go over old ground, but we will.
The other player coming to us, replacing the West Ham bound Luke Young, is Adam Matthews from Cardiff. Now, what I know about Adam Matthews is about as much as the average man knows about quantum mechanics. I can tell you that his surname has eight letters, he plays at right back, that is first name has half the letters as his surname and that Mark Delaney will have an opinion on him if he signs.
I don't like Mark Delaney. Used to, but the laughing and joking with a West Brom player after we conceded an equaliser just moments before put me off him. I was gutted and I wasn't getting paid what he was getting paid. Still, that was then. This is now.
As for Carew leaving; let him. We have seen the best of Carew and if he stays it is only going to become painful for him and us. If he leaves now, he leaves on fantastic terms and if he ever returns, he returns a hero and if we can get some cash, it will mean the manager has something to spend.
Curtis Davies on the other hand is an asset and we really shouldn't be letting him go - but we sort of all know it is happening. It might not come back to haunt us but you have to wonder why two teams that are likely to finish higher than us next season are interested in him and our manager will possibly let this happen.
Right, that is a lid, for now as there really isn't anything else. I'm going to go watch some football and then I'm going to score the players out of ten. Some company saw fit to pay me to do this - absolutely amazing.
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VillaDude
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... There have been 2 players now saying Milner will probably leave, I think the players have been informed and we are now just waiting for a even better bid... |
Villa_Chris
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... Carew- I think he's a great character and think he's a leg end but won't be devastated if he left. Just a shame we can't say goodbye! Davies- Most overrated player I think I've ever seen....unless he's just had a mare since being at Villa. Playing with his arm barely intact etc etc. Not bother in the slightest if he went. I rate Clarke more anyhow. L.Young- Keep him but if he's not going to get played then may as well let him go, its unfair on him else. He's a top RB. |
deansaunderspermthatsperm
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... was never too sure of Davis but it does make you wonder when two bigger clubs are coming in for him (yes i know we finished above pool, but they will sell at some point soon and be back to challenging for the league) |
GGGG
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... UEFA's decided what it's going to bring in re: financial rules http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/26/premier-league-uefa-financial-fair-play so I suppose that makes a big-money Milner sale a bit more likely... but on the other hand, the accountants usually find ways round rules and they've got plenty of time to figure out some loopholes. |
I never got left behind
mintvilla
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... i like davies but i like all our centre backs, we have a surplus of good centre backs, and if we actually buy a right back and play king carlos there, then we'l have even more competition with the likes of clarke too, so if we can get back what we recouped that would be a good thing, if hed of played some games for us this season wed of probaly made a profit as davies is a good player, english and was around the england squad the season before last before the injury that recked last season. so hopefully sell him for around 9 million and use that on someone else |
AVFCD4N
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... we need to keep milner at the end of the day he is not just one player he has grown into the heart of the villa side and he goes players around him will start to play worse and we will have to start all over again |
The Droyd
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... I rate Davies massively but can see him leaving, establishing himself elsewhere and becoming a £20 million rated player like Cahill. If we have to raise funds then he may as well be sold as we have priorities elsewhere. And we have Clark as back up. Hopefully we are after a right back so O'Neill can abandon this ludicrous tactic of playing a centre half there. We would be stupid to sell Carew. Why would we sell him after the way he has played since returing from injury? It just beggars belief. I am bored of the Luke Young and James Milner rumours, I think they have been done to death. Very uninspiring rumours again, although I did see one this morning linking us to Pavlyuchenko. He might not speak a word of English but he is certainly a goalscorer. Given a full season I am sure he would bang in over 20. He just doesn't seem like an O'Neill signing. |
Chiefy
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... Davies -- the guy is a cock, never liked him, dont think he is that good, certainly not as good as he thinks his. Would offer to drive him there but cant stand him. We have better players and enough cover in his position. Carew -- Legend for all the wrong reasons, crowd favourite because he is a bad boy. Like the guy think he is the man but would understand if he left for a final pay packet somewhere. He loves the club and club loves him but wouldnt begrudge him if he left. Sure even if he does leave closed season when the season starts I am sure "He is Bigger than me and you" might sound out round villa park one last time.. L.Young -- My opinion on this is quite simple, MON is the manager and professional he gets paid lots of money to know about what he does. If he decides L.Young is not good enough who are any of us to argue ?!?!? he sees him train, he gets reports on him, he knows his fitness and mind set, we know ..... well not alot in comparison. This talk of Young being ...th best right back in the premier league he WAS, past tense, we have no idea of his current ability and I choose to trust our manager as he has the track record and this is his profession not mine ! |
ak_27
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... Davies is s**t and i would be delighted to see the back of that majorly over rated loud mouth. He can't pass, isn't good in the air and isn't a good reader of the game. Yes he is going to be a top defender alright. Cahill was already a better player then Davies when we sold him and i agree with Chris above Clarke is already a better defender then Davies is and ever will be. As you can tell im not a Davies fan.  |
Villa_Chris
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... I have to admit though, Davies did have a decent few games until he comically ran, arm dangling down by his side with knuckles dragging on the floor, down through the tunnel. |
DavidC
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... Davies will do VERY well at Spurs if he ends up there. He'll be full England international within 6 months of going there. Mark my words. |
spanish villain
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... davies only looked good when he was alongside laursen... i think any defender in the country would have looked decent along side laursen... i say get rid and use the funds wisely and in areas that we desperately need improvement |
AussieLion
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... I think Davies is a pretty good player, but its true we dont need him with Cuellar, Dunne, Collins and Clark. I read that Spurs are going to offer 7m for him which is a decent amount and should be taken. On Carew, I honestly think he was our best striker in the 2nd half of the season and will be hard to replace. How much do people think we will get for him maybe 5-10m MAX. Then we will have to replace him with someone (I read Zamora) who is nearly the same age as him, is more expensive but scores less goals. So I say to keep him on the bench with Delfouneso and get rid of Heskey. Carew is a big impact player when he first gets on so using him as an impact player from the bench could work. Apart from that its all the usual rumours of Milner going, us interested in Keane and Jenas, us needing to sell to buy although with one new one of Pavlyuchenko for 9m. He could be a good buy and score lots of goals but then again I'd rather get someone better. |
neil-bangor
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... I agree with AK. Clark is the future, cash in on Davies and Young. I like Carew,take the money and run. Zamora is a Villa fan, prob a dream move for him. Swap him for Young and Shorey. I see Milner staying. UTV |
villarobin
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... If Davies has a shoulder that keeps dislocating i would say get rid. Notorious injury which keeps on repeating itself. Carew surprises me, but we shall see.. |
villarobin
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... Is anyone else REALLY annoyed at Warnock saying : "IF MILNER WANTS TO PLAY AT A HIGHER LEVEL THEN HE MAY GO" Why on earth are our own players talking about a move to Man City as a bigger club and higher level !! They are our equals and rivals at the moment, and those comments in my opinion go a long way to undermining our squad / whole thinking as a club. Shut your mouth warnock you TIT !!! |
Chiefy
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...Tottenham Hotspur are interested in signing the Aston Villa defender Curtis Davies in a deal that could mean Jermaine Jenas moving in the opposite direction. genius we swap one cock for another one and what you left with a COCK !!!! |
Andy
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... So let me get this right....We are going to sell a bloody good RB that would have made the England team had he been played and we are looking to buy another RB that's not as good as the one we have. And I bet we will pay more for the incoming RB than the one that's leaving. So we spend more money and have a weaker team...!!!!!!!!   I don't see the point of buying another RB anyway because MON will stick with Carlos at RB. Grow some balls MON and make it up with Luke Young. Your stubborness and pride will kill us. |
John Salter
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... Chiefy - Ta for that, previous! On todays news: Luke Young - Most people rate him, me included, although it appears MON doesn't. He hasnt had a public fallout with MON has he so what happenned? I can understand him being fed up warming the bench when Carlos is in his place and he knows he can do better. I can also understand if he let his feelings be known, if he did it shouldnt be held against him as it shows he gives a s#it. However, MON has the decision to make and apart from not playing the right players in the right postion and not rotating the squad, he's doing a good job and next season is make or break for him. Curtis Davies - Personally I thought he did a great job especially with a wrecked shoulder and at times kept us in games and held the line virtually alone but has fallen by the way side with Dunne, Collins and Cuellar as centre backs. Some say he's gobby, if so, let him go! John Carew - Big John I think will always be a legend at Villa Park now, shame we didnt get him sooner. Would he want to go now? I dont know. Does he need to go for a final big pay day just yet, maybe. If so I wish him all the best. Bobby Zamora - ? Darren Bent for me! We dont need another none goal scoring striker. Zamora has improved this season but needs more goals. Plus the ex owner of Harrods and that old fella that manages Fulham wont want him to go anywhere! |
Villa_Chris
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... Here's one for those who don't seem to rate Petrov... Petrov made the 5th most tackles in the league at 143, with a success rate of 76% only just behind the leader Mascherano at 81% Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!  |
Andy
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... villarobin...To be fair they are ahead of us (slightly) and will be above us next season and the one after and the one after that too, unless we have the sametype of aspirations. We just need to live with the fact that at this moment in time they are a bigger club. They have more cash and they have better players. I'm sure that on paper we would rather have the Man Ciy team than the players we have. Yes I know they have gone out an bought those players with wads of cash, but why are so many people envious of them. That's life, that's football these days. Live with it. I'm sure if it happened to Villa we would all love it if our owner spent some money on some real talented players. And don't anyone say you wouldnt because everyone on here wants Randy to spend a bit more money to buy better players. That's all Man City are doing. |
Andy
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... There you go again Chris with your political analysis to give reason to your argument. You chose only to use a statistic about number of tackles to show Petrov has played great...! What about the way we play. Go and find a stat to show how he makes things happen and distributes the ball in an attacking way, instead of a defending way. All he does is play the ball backwards these days. I loved him previously, but his pace and tactics seem to have lost it dramatically. We need to cash in on him now. He's past his best. He's not he future of Aston Villa. Replace him with better. |
Villa_Chris
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... Andy Whats your problem? I'm only posting some interesting information that has been published on the net. And for your information, I have a differing view on Petrov, I think he's a great player. |
jimboAVFC
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... in warnocks defence about the milner comment. he says if milner wants to play at a higher level then he should go but he doesn't actually mention man city. he probably is refering to the rumoured interest from man u and chelsea which to be fair are on a lot higher level than us. |
John Salter
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... villarobin - Yeah it cheesed me off too. I could understand it if he was talking about a move to Man Utd or Chelski but Mercenary City, no way this season. Over paid, greedy botty bashers that didnt play as a team. Andy - I'll bet my right nut they arent in the Champions league next season either! Mullet headed, Oasis supporting tossers! And I wouldnt swap any of their greedy bastoods for any of our players. Teams like them ruin football, anyone todger with enough money can buy mercenaries in any walk of life but it doesnt guarantee success and breeds contempt! Scum! |
The Droyd
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... Petrov is OK. Very good on the ball and is a good trier. However he is not quick enough or athletic enough or good enough in the air to be a top defensive midfielder. Furthermore, his engine is starting to wane. He went missing in the 2nd half a lot last season. I think we should keep him but would like to see a defensive midfielder bought in addition that has the attributes of pace, tackling ability and athletism. If he could pass that would be a bonus! |
villarobin
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... Andy - No im sorry mate but they are not a bigger / higher level club. THEY HAVE MORE MONEY, and thats it. Until they have won numerous Titles / Cups / European Cup they are not a bigger club than Villa. They have already out spent us 10 fold and we are level with them (Give or take a point) in the league , and better than them in the cups. I dont care where they will be in 2 , 3 years. THINK BIG otherwise why bother ?? With Comments like Warnocks , he may as well say "Ah theres no point really trying at Villa as there are bigger clubs like City and Tottenham, why bother eh " *ollocks , SHAT IT WARNOCK YOU TIT !! Believe in this club, believe that money alone isnt always the answer. There is no jealousy , city are welcome to their money, i just genuinely believe that Villa are a match for them and with our leadership / youth policy etc we can continue to match all the top teams and get closer and closer. If you dont believe this, why bother supporting villa, you may as well give up. Rant over... |
JimVilla
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... Andy, if Petrov was so s**t in the holding role, how come Milner has had a chance to shine? You need a Petrov to unleash a Milner, otherwise he gets caught too deep (England Mexico for example). Also, we wouldn't have finished above Liverpool and so close to Champs League if "his pace and tactics seem to have lost it dramatically." I think we should keep him and gradually bring through the future (Delph, Hogg). I think this is what Mon will do (it's also what Ferguson does and hasn't done him any harm). As far as Curtis is concerned he is one we can cash in on, he's young enough to be worth something...don't want rid of the other 3, want to see Clarke get some more games next year so why not get our money back and replace him with Clarke (who is already as good in my opinion). We have some very promising players coming through...and to bring them through with experienced players alongside has got to be good for everyone. |
Frankie Pimblett
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... All to ready to get rid of Carew aren't we ? What a way forward, selling your leading goalscorer. Cole or Zamora to come in and get 17 for the season ? Highly unlikely ! As for Davies, if someone offers 7 million let's take it, in fact I'd settle for 5, totally overated. MON to buy a young wing back from Cardiff ? Whats the point he'll never play him. Expect next year's back 4 to be CLARK COLLINS DUNNE CUELLAR Warnock on the bench (because he's a wingback !) |
villarobin
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... I dont know how many people on here have ever played golf, but 70% of that game is POSITIVE THOUGHT. Imagine the trajectory of the shot you are about to take in your head before you play it, Think that the ball you are going to hit is going to land where you want it to and it is more likely to do it. If you address the ball thinking "OOOh there is no way im going to make this shot, its going into that back garden and through the greenhouse window" You can guarantee you will make a bad shot. POSITIVE THOUGHTS IS HALF THE BATTLE. SHAT IT WARNOCK YOU TIT !! |
JimVilla
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... why is it so hard for everyone to believe that Milner and MON will discuss his contract and options after the world cup? Milner's said it, MON's said it and Man City have made one bid (no-one else has). Journalists need something to write about, Bloggers need to keep visitors up to sell advertising, and we are the mugs that get worked up about it. I will bet any of you good money that nothing will be sorted out until after the world cup. |
The Droyd
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... JimVilla: because... http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/05/26/aston-villa-representatives-set-to-meet-with-james-milner-before-world-cup-97319-26525083/ |
Christian1983
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...Here's one for those who don't seem to rate Petrov... I've seen those stats Villa_Chris- I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate here... The three other 'brilliant' players above him on the list are Diame from Wigan, Muamba from Bolton and the fantastic Lucas from Liverpool!!!!  |
Arbee
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... I've always liked Luke Young (thought we should of signed him a couple of years previous to when we did, surely we had the chance?) and like most other people would of rather seen him in the team last year but he turned down an England call up last year, he would of almost certainly been in the squad for the world cup, surely this is every players dream? I can't remember his exact statement on the reason but it was along the lines of him losing hunger for the game and if O'Neill isn't picking him then maybe it's true, he's only in it for the money at the moment and if that's true then move him on and get a younger, hungrier RB in. And ffs please stop playing Cueller there, he's a great defender but offers nothing going forward one of the main reasons we struggle to break teams down at home, need someone who's gonna offer a bit more going forward |
JimVilla
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... I've just read a few different versions of the Warnock transcript by the way (busy morning) and it's been edited to fuel rumours as always. For a start, he didn't end the conversation saying "“From his point of view, if there’s a chance to play at a higher level then it’s something that I’m sure he’ll be open to.” It was preceding a lot of compliments about the boy Milner and I imagine he was asked a question like: "if Barcelona offered £90 million for Milner, would it be hard to keep him?" to fish for a scoop. Good reporters know how to get us going so lets not give Warnock too much s**t. Sky Sports and other News International sources (The Sun, News of the World, Times and Fox Sports) have chosen the bits and made it sound like he's ended the interview with a proper clanger. Most of what I've read about that through Google is fuelled by us so lets ease off shall we. Milner to stay, or if we get £38 million off Spurs for Milner and Davies, and get Harry's hand caught in the till, happy days. |
JimVilla
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... The Droyd: And? Like we won't have representatives at the world cup anyway, whats wrong with meeting your players? All hype, and if he does a U-Turn and says, "yes I want to go now, please sell me asap" I guess they will start a bidding war starting at £24 million. Until I hear Milner say I want to go, it's all paper talk. |
Chiefy
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...Lucas from Liverpool!!!! Apparently he is brazlian you know ?!?!?! and he was one of the youngest players to win the ballon d aur or what ever it is !!! Next you will be telling me Lionel Heskey is going to get the golden but at the world cup |
Villa_Chris
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... Chiefy, Lionel won't come back empty handed, you know that, I know that, and everyone else knows that. He'll win the 'pre pre pre-assists' golden boot. Mark my words. |
Andy
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... villarobin....The fact of the matter is that in the early eighties and several other times in football history we have been a bigger club than Man City. Things change. If we were a bigger club, then the likes of Tevez etc would have no qualms about coming to us. Do any of you really think that at this moment in time these big name players would come to Villa. They won't come for two main reasons. Firstly on balance we don't have as much chance of Champions League football as Man City do. Secondly we can't afford or pay as much in wages. I could use the third point in that players prefer London clubs over us, because of the draw of the bright lights of London. It's also incorrect to say Man City have spent 10 fold what we have. It is clearly not anywhere near the case. Someone put the figures up the other day about whos the best or worst supported clubs in the Prem, according to percentage of capacity of attendance. Villa were the 7th worst supported team....! So are we really still that big a club....? Nottingham Forest have won the European Cup, but are they still a big club....No they are not. Man Utd were not always the top club, neither were Chelsea, but they are now. Just becuase we have been, it does not make us big now. Yes we are bigger than most, but we need to face facts. We do not have the ability to draw thereal top players at the moment. Man City do. We all rate Milner for has character and prefessionalism. If he makes the judgement to go to Man City, citing the reasons he thinks they have more of a chance to win him trophies, do we still think we are bigger....! The tables will turn one day. We will have an owner thats willing to spend more. When the day comes the best players want to play for Aston Villa, instead of your Man Cities, Man Utd's, Chelsea's and Arsenal's, then we will then be once again big. |
Chiefy
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...Lionel won't come back empty handed ok he is bad but a thief thats a bit far !!!! He'll win the 'pre pre pre-assists' golden boot I have seen the trophy its already got his name on it !!! |
JimVilla
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... No point betting on him being a Villa player after world cup, it's evens at best. And we're second favourites to have Milner at VP next year. I'm going to have a bulls-eye on him going no-where. If he does decide it's time to go it will be a bidding war and there are only a few clubs capable of bidding over £20 Million for him and the hungriest isn't in the Champs League. I can see it all being put on hold with him waiting for a move to Liverpool (his dream move) when the boo boys hound MON out next year and the new owners have the money to bring them both in. There's more to Milner than cash. |
Christian1983
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... I can't even find odds for Heskey to be Goldenboot winner! But, yet, I can find odds for David Blunkett to be unveiled as a lizard from another world... Probably is more likely. |
Aero-4-Villa
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... I really dont want another defender nor do i want another one of these REALLY young talents that we wont use for another four years. I want players we can use NOW. I want a known, quality center midfielder and a prolific goal scorer. As i said yesterday, i want Mesut Ozil and Edin Dzeko. Only when we have these two players, or players like them, we can continue investing in young talent. On Davies, dont forget about him just because we've got Dunne and Collins now. That lad played through the pain barrier for us. For months he did, because we had no replacement. He desperately needed an operation on his shoulder but at the same time he was willing to put his body on the line for Villa. Thats what makes a real footballer, and thats what makes him a true Villan. He deserves a proper chance to prove himself. I dont want Carew to leave, hes the only natural goal scorer we have and thats not the only thing gives us. Do you ever think about the influence he might have on the younger players?? He can teach them and he could actually be key in their development. Im talking about players like the Fonz and Weimann, do have any idea of how much they could learn from a player with as much experience a Carew?? Exactly!  We need him until the day he retires! |
Christian1983
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... According to this you can get 359/1 for Heskey to be Top Scorer at Betfair!!! That's 359/1 for a STRIKER playing for the THIRD FAVOURITES!!! But I think I'd still rather put my £1 on Joe Hart... |
John Salter
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... Frankie Pimblett - I dont want to see John Carew go and I'll wager that neither do 98% of Villa fans either. I think what some people are saying is, 'He's been great at Villa and if, because he knows he hasn't got many years left, he wants more cash for his yacht/dungeon etc, let him go.' Without him and Gabby we'd have been playing Portsmouth next year! Mercenary City - It's really begining to rub my rhubbarb that some people think they're bigger/better than Villa. If you think they're so wonderful and they're cash is everything you ever wanted and so appealing, go and buy yourself one of those horrible sky blue, coventry lookalike shirts, get a mullet hair cut, a chav accent and bugger off up the m6 next season. The only players at that club with any moral sense are Tevez, he went their because Sir Alex cocked up bigtime by not signing him and getting Berbatov and Adam Johnson, who went there from Boro for a relatively small fee. |
Chiefy
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...According to this you can get 359/1 for Heskey to be Top Scorer at Betfair!!! brilliant |
mickey86
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... im resigned to losing milner now an dwill probably be disapointed if we dont start the season with the 20million in our bank plus steven ireland in midfield. id like the situation to be sorted out before the world cup so i kno wether to hope Milner does well or hope another player in his place does eqully aaswell. im also resigned to losing luke young (even tho i dont want him to) and also id prefer the 4million in the bank for him rather than him sitting on our bench. i think MON is letting curtis davis go because he has been informed by our physios and doctors that his shoulder is f**ked, otherwise we should be loaning him out to newcastle or wolves next season until MON gets bored of cueller or collins. i like carew as a bloke and a player but wouldnt be too fussed if we let him go, but i hope we dnt get zamora to replace him, id prefer keane but fora a 3rd of the price spurs want. adam matthews would be a good signing as he is only 18 so wont mind not playing much next season because cueller will be there, but why we buying him if we have eric lichaj who is older and also one of ours? he could easily warm the bench just aswell as matthews could. |
Chiefy
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...He can teach them and he could actually be key in their development. Im talking about players like the Fonz and Weimann, do have any idea of how much they could learn from a player with as much experience a Carew? not just that Carew lifts the crowd, which in turn lifts the players. It could be said that Carew is instrumental in that influence that he has had on Gabby and the influence he has on the fans, all he has to do is acknowledge the Holte End and thats it they burst into song, and this can be a powerful tool to the players when their heads have dropped or we are losing !! Did he not say somewhere he is not bothered about his contract and would rather stay at Villa and run it down ?? because he loves the club that is |
Chiefy
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...go and buy yourself one of those horrible sky blue, coventry lookalike shirts, get a mullet hair cut, a chav accent some reebok pump, a shell suit and some knock off cool water called gold council pop |
villarobin
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... Andy - Like I said before, Man City have more money than Villa , they are not however a bigger club than Villa. As for that Clap Trap about Villa being the 7th worst supported club ???? !!!!! How does 35 - 40 odd thousand fans a week translate to one of the worst supported clubs. Why dont you just toddle offf up the M6 and put your tongue down the back of Mancinis trousers, ? |
villarobin
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... Villa are the 4th most successful club in the history of English football with only Liverpool , Manure + Arse bigger than us. Think like that , think big , not small.. |
Chiefy
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... Ozil, Dzeko seriously ?? that is football manager stuff. These two guys have been linked with the best clubs in europe, with an withour champions league football. They command a high salary and this will only increase throughout the summer the more bids they receive... now please dont take this as an attack because its not.... but why on earth would they come to birmingham on probably earning less than anywhere else without c/l and only a free meal ticket at sub way at one stop as an incentive ?? realistically we are not in the bracket of club that can attract and hold on to the ozil's, dzeko's, hamsik's even to an extent the Milner;s of this world and that is why managing us is so hard the manager has to manage expectation and some of ours, me included, get carried away and wild !! |
tecalee
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... WTF!!!!!!!!!! Zamora 29 years old and a Achilles problem which will forever keep him out of the England team. Why the hell are we linked to players like this. I would like to see young Adams Matthews come in though for £2m. KEEP CAREW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! |
Andy
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It's that type of comment that I pity about some football supporters. I don't just mean Villa supporters, I mean from any club. I have supported Villa all my life and always will. Just because I chose to have another viewpoint, does not make me support another team. My fave uncle supports Man City (he's supported them all his life) and one of my best mates and client supports City (again, all his life). I have the banter with them all the time. They won't ever persuade me to support City though. The thing is robin I do think big. Probably a lot bigger than most on here do. I'm not happy settling for a cup every 10-15 years. I'm not happy with a lot of things MON does, although I happy with other things he does do. I want Villa to really succeed and be the best and dare I say THE BIGGEST...! By the way. I live in Yorkshire, so I don't need to go up the M6 to get to Eastlands |
Rortyboy
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... I had this dream that England walzed into qualification for the World Cup Playing Heskey and Rooney up front (with Crouch as an impact sub) which turned into a nightmare when fans started calling for Heskey to be dropped.............I know sarcasm is cr*p - but don't the facts speak for themselves. Show Lionel the love |
villarobin
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... Andy , I was only joking.. All I meant was its damaging to Villa if their own fans think Man City is a bigger club. Personally it will never be a bigger club unless they win 10 - 20 trophies and overtake our tally over history. Its like Chelsea - they basically have a blip in their history where someone has come in and given them untold riches but thats all it is a BLIP. Chelsea / Man City nowhere near as big as Villa yet. |
Chiefy
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...Show Lionel the love I am feeling that....Damo show Lionel the love campaign ??? I feel a facebook page coming on |
Andy
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... I hear Mellberg would be interested in coming back to Villa. Well ok, I didn't, but it's a hell of a lot more realistic than all these other rumours that's doing the rounds by the lazy journos |
gareth b
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... im from s.wales am a villa fan of 30 years also watch cardiff a lot. adam matthews is gonna be a big player. bags of talent and still young. buy him mon |
Aero-4-Villa
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... Chiefy, I agree with everything you said, and ive thought about it before. But if we cant sign these players now, when comes the point we can? We've pushed for fourth place the last two seasons now, we've reached a Final and a Semi Final. Them things show we're close to becoming a very successful team, we always just seem to be lacking that little bit of quality. MON has been here since 2006 without one big name signing, like i said - when does come the point we CAN sign these types of players? Giovanni Dos Santos was rated as one of the best young talents in the world when Spurs signed him. They are not a bigger club than us, and definitely weren't back at the time they signed him. But somehow, they still got him, there is always a way! These players can always be convinced somehow. MON just has to... in the words of the Godfather - make him an offer he cant refuse! |
Villa_Chris
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... Andy are you the Anarchist?....Just wondering. Why dont you just toddle offf up the M6 and put your tongue down the back of Mancinis trousers, ? Trying to eat my soup here!?! |
vivavilla
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... Funny how those three players linked with leaving are players who have all had alleged bust ups with the gaffer. No one person is bigger than the football club, but I sometimes wonder whether O'Neill thinks he is. |
Luckynumber7
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... 'two teams likely to finish above us?' you love it Damian - you absolutely love it. |
Andy
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...Trying to eat my soup here!?! Is this a new thread/subject....? If it is, I've just had a couple of slices of Yorkshire Tea loaf and a nice mug of tea for lunch. |
Chiefy
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... Aero -- I get your point and also understand what you mean, although we have to face the fact we cant pull these players as even with being the second city it doesn't have the attraction as London, along with having a salary cap that McDonalds would be proud off we will always struggle to get the big big game changing players until we are there, trophy winners, 4th place, europa league its going to take silver ware or 4th to get us them players !!! No one person is bigger than the football club, but I sometimes wonder whether O'Neill thinks he is And to a certain extent Randy has let him, if he does think this of course, get away with it somebody needs to manage someone like Oneill a bit closer in my opinion or he will run riot |
villarobin
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... DAMIAN - 'two teams likely to finish above us?' Just noticed that in your post and its just totally out of order in my opinion.. Basically already writing us off again , as you did throughout last year.. SO WRONG !! |
Genital Grinder
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... Why would anyone want our only reliable goalscorer to leave? It's not like we'd got that much money for him at his age now anyway, keep Carew, and have him as an impact player off the bench. This Adam Matthews sounds interesting from a few comments I've read, the best thing is he's a young player and we should be signing more of those, not nearly 30 yr olds who MON will eventually refuse to play. And as for the Man City bigger than us thing, don't make me laugh, until they're qualifying for the Chumps League year in, year out, they are not bigger than us. How does one gauge the size of a club anyway? They were in League 1 a few years ago, and now they're a bigger and more successful club than us, because they finished ahead of for the first time in years. I see... |
Andy
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... It just shows how interesting this tranfer speculation is when we're resorting to taking about eating soup and cake...! |
Greg Davillain1887
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... the only cake i want to eat should have nice timmed hairs and smell like fish |
Chiefy
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...the only cake i want to eat should have nice timmed hairs and smell like fish I always thought it was a fishermans pie not a fishermans cake |
Villa_Chris
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...the only cake i want to eat should have nice timmed hairs and smell like fish WTF!!! |
Andy
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...nice timmed hairs and smell like fish The wife is trimmed but she tastes good. I would get yer missus to invest more time in personal hygene if she's fishy |
Chiefy
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...I would get yer missus to invest more time in personal hygene if she's fishy I would get a new mrs's, that jermey kyle s**t !!!! |
Genital Grinder
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... I just had some tomato soup. It was nice. Think I'll stay away from that Fishermans pie though. |
.vogra
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... I think id also sell Davies, he got bailed out enough times when he was playing with Laursen, he got found out when he had Zat Knight by him. This Adam Matthews fellow, my ex housemate was a Cardiff fan and he was always banging on about him, saying he could be as good as Gareth Bale. Why not take a punt at him, Cardiff need to doe..Who knows, he could be as good as Bale in a couple of years....then we can sell him to Man City |
Villa_Chris
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... Damian, you beat me to it. Youngsters shouldn't be taught all this about cannibalism, its nasty |
Villa_Chris
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...Chris.....You wouldnt understand....For what you're used to he means smells cheesy |
Greg Davillain1887
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... villa chris i bet you wouldnt no a fish if it jumped up and bit you on your todger!!! I like fish, i wouldnt trade my missus for anything. and hey vogra... what the hell has davies playing with laursen got to do with fishy fingers, keep to the blog please |
jo bates
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... Ist transfer of the summer in the midlands, just transfer some of that cake and tea over here i'm starving |
Villa_Chris
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... Greg I just hope she never reads this blog....for your sake. And I'm sorry Greg, but I don't think I would like to be associated with a lady that smells of fish and has a habit of it bitting your todger You're welcome to that one sir. |
villarobin
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... the only cake i want to eat should have nice timmed hairs and smell like fish HA HA Thanks for the cake picture Andy, but i didnt know Yorkshire tea made cakes as well.. |
Birdman zz
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... Damo, if you don't know something about a player - why don't you find out for us - isn't that your responsibility as a blogger? Please stop writing 'i don't know anything about player x or y etc' - why not put in some Youtube clips of him, or some stats, or an interview etc. It will make your blog richer, and more interesting and ultimately a bit more credible mate. Nice one mate |
villarobin
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... BACK TO FOOTBALL There is a great article in the Guardian today about how from 2012 clubs owners are no longer allowed to cover the clubs debts. So for example Man Cities owner paid off £97 million debt last year. This basically means that all wages will have to come down and all transfer spending will fall, so hopefully things will even up abit. |
The Droyd
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... There are only 2 things that smell like haddock and one of them is haddock. Andy, that cake looks delicious. I could just tuck into some of that right now. Tea and cake and fine wine! Wouldn't swap it for the belly draft and 2 pints of Bathams I have just despatched though. Where are we then? Oh yes football, Aston Villa. I say anyone that supports the Blues is a s**t of the highest order. |
John Salter
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... Andy - Can we order that cake online on 'tinternet?' Also if your really from 'tut yorkshire, unt third world' could you have a word with young Jimmy Milner and tell him not to go to your clients and favourites uncles team please? We'll get him all the Hovis he can handle if he stays |
villarobin
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... Tea and cake and fine wines We want them here, and we want them now and you can install a f**king dukebox while your at it |
villarobin
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... i meant Jukebox, but i like the sound of a Dukebox as well , but not a Dukes Box.... eerrr no. |
The Droyd
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... From the Viz Profanisaurus: Snatch Worms. n. Tiny pieces of tightly-rolled bog paper that lurk in the labial folds, normally only discovered during particularly expert cumulonimbus which dislodges them from their hidey-holes. I apologise. No more. Just Villa stuff from now on. Micah Richards, Stephen Ireland and £20 million please Mancini. |
The Droyd
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... It's basically pork belly of the bone. Fantastic. Alas I have no photos. Villarobin, I see you are also a fan of the greatest film of all time. Any transfer gossip this afternoon? |
Greg Davillain1887
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... villa chris thanks for the dental floss i needed the snatch worms from my teeth!!! LOL Who knew talking about cakes could be so much fun |
Villa_Chris
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... Hey Mr John Salter, I've seen you've been playing away with another site...Sky sports. We feel cheated! You love Barry really. |
bobvillian
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... just a word about adam matthews link with villa;my dad is a mad cardiff fan and has been raving on about him.MON get him in now but having said that why o why is l.young being allowed to leave just because of him asking MON why he is not being given a fair crack of the whip.add him to shorey;coker;beye;cahil;who deserve better than what there getting.you may know i am not a MON FAN BUT HIS TREATMENT OF PLAYERS IS DISMAL EXCEPT HIS FAVORITES?? |
Chiefy
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... Villa Chris -- we managed to get through that whole episode without referring to Vasoline once !!!! You love Barry really Nope he is a tosser, full blast cock if it was in season I hope his injury hurt and he would spend the rest of the season on the side lines, luckily for you Mr "money grabbing unloyal using w****r of a man" Barry its not its world cup year and England needs you so I will refrain from wishing you injury or accident, NOW stop being an attention seeking ponce and declare yourself fit !!! |
ak_27
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... Im appalled by the filth on this site today.'( Anyone who is into gambling on football i have seen a very tasty looking bet for this evening. Turkey are playing Northern Ireland in the heat in the US at 6.60 this evening and they NI are playing an extremely weak side. I can see this game being an asolute malling and for some reason the ods on Paddypower are really good for Turkey all things considering. Back Turkey with the handicap betting and you will clean up mark my words  . http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...705092.stm: |
Chiefy
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...Man City midfielder Ireland expected to favour Spurs over Man Utd That solves one of our signing problems JENAS it is then |
ak_27
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...That solves one of our signing problems JENAS it is then Can't see City selling to Utd anyway and also we have a trump card in Milner and having Dunne at the club. If MON wants Ireland (and if he has any kop on he does) then we should be more then capable of getting him. Everything is stacked in our favour. Also but i would honestly take Ireland over Milner anyday of the week as an attacking CM. I would even have been happy with a staright swap but what we could be offered Ireland plus 15-20m then we would be idiots not to take it. We would be ending up with the better player IMO. |
John Salter
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... Villa_Chris - Haha but its true! Capello is wasting time on the old hasbeanbakedbean! Plus that formation in the first half really did rub my rhubbarb! It was really annoying and senseless! Dosey Italian, just hope he isnt intent on screwing England over like the gland Sven! Chiefy - I'm with you on money bags Barry! |
John Salter
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... ak_27 - What about Irelands abuse of cars? It'll upset Chiefy if he turns up in a souped up Nova in claret and blue |
Chiefy
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... Ak-27 -- I am with you I would take Ireland over Milner, but I fell like I am cheating on Milner saying that !!! As long as Ireland STOPS abusing cars !!! For what our team needs Ireland is the better choice it would be immense if we could keep jimmy drop petrov and have ireland, but thats just being silly and getting to excited, but with the choice that seems to be appearing Ireland maybe another and cash or Ireland and cash, lets hope Spuds dont trump us to it cause MON is busy trying to find his mobile !!!!! or we will end up with Jenas who is s**twell mark 2 or simply Jermaine sillyarse |
ak_27
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...or we will end up with Jenas who is s**twell mark 2 or simply Jermaine sillyarse He is s**te. I wouldn't mind seeing Jimmy Bullard ariving here over the summer as well. Would be agreat option from the bench. |
Chiefy
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...I wouldn't mind seeing Jimmy Bullard to sit on the bench great shout, just think his wages would be a little to high for that though, Well by the end of this week I think we will know if Milner is staying or going and I think that will kick start our summer spending to be honest, can honestly say I am not as bothered as I was about Barry !! What ever Milner does you cant really blame him, especially if we do get Ireland hell I will drop Milner of he seems like a decent lad |
Chiefy
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...Roque Santa Cruz would be 'disappointed' to see Stephen Ireland leave Manchester City Thats ok Roque you can come with him dont worry about that, I am sure he has enough room is his t**ty rang rover !! |
frem
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... pav link is tosh. wont happen Keane is more like it hoppefully with stephen ireland as well. Dunne wants them both at villa next season. good. i hope hes told oneill |
frem
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... its worrying when its says, oneill hopes to find 9 mill to get pav. Surly we have 9 million pounds somewhere. chairmen maybe |
frem
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... how about milner 20 mill plus ireland . problem solved. 20 mill on pav and keane. three top players for free |
krisavfc
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... I wouldn't mind Santa cruz :-) he's a good player and was quality at Blackburn maybe we could relight his fire :-L or something that doesn't sound femanine :-/ but yeh stephan ireland, Santa-cruz and swp for milner and 10 million :-) sorted |
Nigel
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... If I were MON, i'd insist on taking Ireland, Hart plus £10mil for Milner. It's not like they can't afford it! |
The Droyd
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... Villa_Chris - I have got a tenner on Robinho as top scorer in The World Cup @ 80-1. Santa Cruz would be a good signing to replace Heskey. Keane would be an awful signing unless we could get him for below £6 million. |
stig
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... On the Luke Young thing, I was out at the Peace Cup last year and there were alot of rumours flying around that he had had a massive bust up with Oneill over there. which then stangely coincided with him being omited from the quad/first team for no apparent reason. |
Class of 82
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... I know that sometimes he has a tendancy to spin but did anyone read the general's comments on the sell to buy policy? basically said that it was nothing special and just a way to get rid of the dead wood and things wouldn't be any different to the last few years. I was hoping that this might stop the lazy journo headlines but no, they've obviously been too lazy to pick up on it or just think they can rub us up the wrong way a bit more! |
holteend paul
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...which then stangely coincided with him being omited from the quad/first team for no apparent reason. so nothing to do with the fact he left the squad and returned home after hearing of a tragic death in his family???? |
holteend paul
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...I don't like Mark Delaney. i have a feeling you argue with your mirror image if you stayed there long enough! |
holteend paul
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...Bobby Zamora to replace Carew and the other one finished the season at Celtic and only got a disappointing 37 goals in his half season who is this player from celtic? infact which player scored 37 goals in a whole season for celtic? as i cant see any player scoring that many in a whole season never mind half,i am realy interested which celtic the player was at? as for robbie keane who will be 30 in july, i think unless we get him for 3-4 million while getting 2 million for heskey which leaves a net outlay of 1-2 million which i would find acceptable. |
dingbat
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... Why do people seem to think we can't get Ireland without selling Milner? Ship out some of the deadwood and this is more than possible. We don't rotate the squad so quality instead of quantity should be the way forward. |
Simeon
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... We need a quality right back. We need a midfielder who is strong, hard in the tackle and can run all day. We need a big man up front who scores lots of goals. I hear that Luke Young, Nigel Reo-Coker and John Carew are all available at very reasonable prices. Hang on... |
Andy
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... I'm thinking that when our current players are talking about other players coming to us it's looking very likely that that's going to be the case. So it's looking like Ireland and Keane are a good bet to be in claret and blue. Just hope we don't pay stupid money for Keane |
Simeon
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... Is Santa Cruz any better than Carew? Is Santa Cruz as good as Carew? On the evidence of the past two seasons, is Santa Cruz even close to being in the same time-zone as Carew? No, no, and no. If Santa Cruz were a young whipper-snapper with bags of potential, and we were about to be offered a large sum of money for Carew, then perhaps I could see the logic. But neither is the case. Why would we sell Carew? I don't think we can afford to, because the cost of even adequately replacing him would be far greater than the fee we'd receive for him. He's in the last year of his contract. He's 30 years old. I reckon - assuming we're open to offers for him - we'd be lucky to get £4m. And what is that going to get us? Carlton Cole's left leg?? Bobby Zamora's (dodgy) right ankle? Robbie Keane's pointy finger??? |
holteend paul
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... andy... myself and sam said heskey would be a waste of money and we were proved to be right and now its a washed up keane, and i honestly think i will be proved right on him aswell although as a villa fan i wouldnt want to be. |
Simeon
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... On Curtis Davies, I think he'd make an excellent signing for Liverpool. Carragher is rubbish these days, meaning the only decent centre bakcs they have are Agger and Skrtel. And with Liverpool working with a limited budget, Davies would be well within their capabilities. I must say I did laugh when newspaper reports mentioned Davies to Spurs for £7m. We'll be lucky to get half that - though having said that, Spurs would be lucky to get half of the £15m Keane is allegedly being quoted at. |
Andy
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... Simeon...It's simple really. Just keep Carew and extend his contract for an extra couple of years and sell Heskey. Let's have Keane in at the right price and the right contract so we can offload him in a couple of years and get some money back. I'm thinking more and more that Keane would be ideal to get us scoring and really fighting in the middle. I still want to see Marco on the wing and bring Webcam into the middle. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Lads robbie keane still has a lot to offer, he only gona be 30 soon and hed have 3 or 4 good years ahead as he is an intelligent player who doesnt rely on pace. Like last year when people were slating the prosect of dunne signing, i can wholehearedly say that if we get keane for 6-8 million it would be good business, and he'd bring a different dynamic to the team, a bit of craft up front which we are sorely missing. I can say the same for ireland, if he was english he would be getting rave reviews, a much better footballer than milner, and excellent going forward, which is the hard part in football, a true lock picker, with his passing and vision. If we get 20 million and him, its the worst piece of business ever from citys part. B'cause milners is english he is probably over hyped, undoubtly he has talent and the professionalism and work ethic/energy, but not technically as good as ireland. |
Andy
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... AP....I was also with you and Sam on the Heskey thing. Keane is not our future, however I'm now thinking of some merits with him. We need that type of fighter up front. I think it would also give Fonz the time to learn and develop more this next 12 months. I think with Gabby (who I'd sell, but MON will keep him) and Keane used in a proper substitution policy we would be much better in the scoring department. |
Class of 82
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... £20 Million + Ireland for Milner? It sounds like a trick question where you start to think you've missed something. I think Milner's great and I don't want him to go but for that deal I wouldn't think twice |
VillaWerner
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... Carew is staying. In an interview on Norwegian tv ahead of Norways friendly match he dismissed all the rumors. So unless Mon wants him off I cant see Carew leaving. |
dingbat
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... Carew is not the one we should be getting rid of! Lets give MON a few clues who he should offload *if he starts games sometimes lasts more than 20 mins! *spends a lot of time doing the dying fly! *scores something like 4 goals in 37 appearances! |
Geoff
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... Please get rid of Carew, please! Sell Luke Young, Sell Davies. And you know what? LET City buy both Milner & Young, let them both offer 40M plus Ireland and someone else or something of that nature. Just get them out of here, guys, WAKE UP! What part of they have NO money until they start selling off their highest priced players do you not understand? They had better sell Milner and Carew at the very least BEFORE the WC. They need time to get the right players in here. They will be able to build a BETTER and DEEPER team if they sell the likes of Milner, Ashley Young, Carew, and of course the dead weight, because they will be able to have enough players and money in return to have a bigger squad. If they do not sell Milner and Ashley Young they simply will not have the money or players in return available to improve the squad enough to be in the TOP 4 and we'll be in the same place next Spring. |
holteend paul
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... how exited are all the lads on here about the players being linked with us this summer? to be honest i cant wait for the splendid signings to start rolling through the villa park gates... a washed up keane... when the ball hits row z thats zamora!.. would rather eastenders janus than spuds jenus.. carlton cole who is heskey's love child... kevin forest gump doyle..run doyley run and then the queer man called ireland from ireland, although the best of the bunch.. i say, just keep the same bloody squad. because if we bring in this standard of player next season, then i cant see us finishing in the top half... maybe damian and his anti-mon brigade would like this, as i think even the prime minister would call for mons head at question time!!! |
truevillan
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... its that time of year again! im reading all the crap, waiting for a signing, but deep down know that martin o'snail wont move until late august! agree with getting rid of curtis davies, makes a major mistake a game and needs someone beside him who is capable and willing to guide him the whole game ?(laursen did this, and its davies best period) unlike most on here, for the right price and the right players in, i would not worry about ashley young or milner going, neither will ever be world beaters, and with the right deal, such as bentley anf ireland, plus loads of cash, hardly missed! and please get rid of heskey, sidwell, salifou,s**t! finally, please MON just one early signing to keep us happy, the scum have made 3 so far, and 2 of em are not bad! |
Andy
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... Only one thing wrong with that plan AP......It means we will still have Heskey and Sidwell...! |
andy5759
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... Hi there AP and whatever your name used to be... Not so silent Steve23 or summat. It seems that the Noses have gazumped us for That twelve foot striker Zigiç. We really ought to think of keeping Carew, his height and strength make him an impact sub at least. There are plenty of rumours around the Championship that clubs are getting Delfouneso on loan, that doesn't inspire me greatly. I was hoping that this would be his "coming of age season". The strikers we are linked with also don't exactly put a spring in my step either. At least we have the WC to keep us occupied for the summer, oh what a bummer. |
holteend paul
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...Only one thing wrong with that plan AP......It means we will still have Heskey and Sidwell...! true it is a hard one! but you have to weigh the options up heskey and sidwell or row z zamora and sam janus? plus we would be down 15 million in transfers! |
holteend paul
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... heskey-2million salifou-1 sidwell-3 davies-5 osbourne-1 young-3 shorey-2.5 beye-2 hogg-.5 reo-5 this amounts to a massive summer clear out bringing in 25 million or their abouts and taking prob about 250k a week off the wage bill. if lerner gives mon 20 million that will give him 40-45 million. ireland-8 clattermole-12 parker-10 falcoa-14 this would be getting rid of the nearly men and replacing with quality, as someone posted earlier that mon doesnt rotate so we need a very strong first 16. |
dingbat
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... Geoff-Why do you say 'they' instead of 'we'. Mind you judging by what you have said your not a Villa fan. Its so simple, sell your best players then pop down Tesco to get some better new ones! |
mickey86
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... holteend paul - 5million for Hogg? the only person who would pay that is MON lol. and with that all that money you would spend 30 million on 3 similar central midfielders? |
andy5759
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... MoN really must decide the Villa futures of a fair few players. Those listed in comment 166, and maybe some others will need to be sold or released. I expect MoN to be a busy man this summer, not that I am suggesting that he's never busy in the summer time. Ten out and five in. If one of the ten out happens to be one of JM, Ash or Gabby I would be very disappointed. The money would come in very handy though. Jimmy will become a Gerard/Lampard type of player over the next two seasons, Ash will be England's wing wizard too, Gabby will be a twenty/thirty goal a year scorer. That's the point; MoN has assembled a team sheet that would look fan-bloody-tastic in 2012. People will look at it and ask how we managed to only finish sixth in 2010. What we need for next season is a squad that will bring more immediate results, and force our 'prospects' to fight their way into the side rather than be shoo-ins. Thank the Lord we have MoN at the helm. I have every confidence in him keeping us in the top half of the table, maybe even to climb upwards from sixth - dare i say fourth? |
holteend paul
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...mickey86 sorry if you add it up its 0.5 million ireland is a very attacking midfielder, parker is a box to box midfielder and cattermole plays a defensive midfield role and all three will most certainly play right back at some point in their villa careers. and did you notice i also managed to keep milner in my little clearout? |
holteend paul
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...MoN has assembled a team sheet that would look fan-bloody-tastic in 2012. People will look at it and ask how we managed to only finish sixth in 2010 like i remember the west ham team that got relegated which had names such as carrick,ferdinhand,cole and lampard in it cant remember if all at the same time but its a funny old game and the best managers seem to get hold of such players just as they are about to blossom. i always wonder where west ham would be with terrific players they had still at the club? i just hope people dont talk about mon's darlings in years to come playing for utd, citeh or chelsea saying the same as i have said above!! |
andy5759
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... Yeah, I'd forgotten about the Colour Copiers. Lessones to be learned I think. Have a look at this for a bit of fun, Villa style! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...r_embedded |
mickey86
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... sorry holtened paul. i missed the . before the 5 lol. and yea they probably will play right back lol. villarobin - you say chelsea are having a BLIP right now, you could easily say Villa had a Blip in the early 80's. birdmanzz - its a blog, theres no need for damian to copy and paste from wikipedia, you can do that urself. if he put information and a few you tube clips about every player we were linked to then there would be not much room for his opinions/ thoughts and reports - thats what a blog is and not an information pack. |
Chiefy
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... these kits are the best kits we have had and i love the fact they are inspired by the older shirts, I am also proud of the fact that lerner has stuck to his word he couldnt get the sponsor deal he wanted or thought the club was worth so gave it back to Acorns !!!! How a club should be run well done Randy |
holteend paul
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... chiefy you naughty boy! you have been on aston villa news and views website aint ya |
holteend paul
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... but i love the designs anyway, as they were my very first kits as a youngster. |
Chiefy
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... Holteend -- no mate got them of someones facebook profile first place i put them was one here how good are them shirts ??? I need all of them |
DanWilson82
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... I havn't been on here all day and just spotted those shirts! Are they for real? The home is awesome, please tell me your not on a wind up Chiefy! |
DanWilson82
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... Jeez yeah should have guessed seeing were not going with acorns this time around... |
AussieLion
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... Wow I love the jerseys even if they are fake. The away jersey is much better than this years and the 3rd kit is great too. |
Chiefy
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...Think we are having Umbro shirts with TATA sponsor...? That is just one of many rumours flying round. Although I am positive we had a five year deal with Nike, and even though Umbro is owned by Nike I would imagine Nike would want us wearing their tops. Jeez yeah should have guessed seeing were not going with acorns this time around Lerner has already state if he can not get the deal for the sponsor that he thinks the club is worth then he will give the sponsor back to Acrons. So far we have been linked with Tata, Thomas Cook and Acrons |
frem
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... those kits are fake. the away shirt we had this season is going to last untill next season |
Villa_Chris
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... Chiefy I nearly shot my load when I saw those shirts last night to then be gutted when the realisation kicked in that they were mock ups! Get the designer signed up for Villa! |
Chiefy
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... Damn these kits are fake and the rumour is our away kit is either Black or we are keeping the one we have now and changing the sponsor on it if needed !!!! |
Villa_Chris
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...And Keane’s Republic of Ireland international team-mate Richard Dunne would gladly welcome him at Villa Park. Dunne revealed he has “once or twice” spoken informally to Keane about the prospect of joining Villa from Spurs. I'm actually starting to believe whoever it was that said they know through Jenas that the Keane deal is already done. I'll be glad if we got him, I don't give a monkeys if its 10 million or 6. He's exactly what we need. |
Chiefy
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...http://i184.photobucket.com/al...ahome.jpg strong rumour is our kit will be similar to holland's which looks like this add the sponsor and there you go, the 3rd kit is rumoured to be yellow though  |
Villa_Chris
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...VILLA have fallen behind Everton in the battle to sign Leeds hot-shot Jermaine Beckford on a free transfer this summer. Wouldn't mind a squad player like this on a free. I just wouldn't want it to hamper Delfouneso's progress though. |
Chiefy
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... With the black one all you would need is a whistle and we could give our own fouls and penalties |
John Salter
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... Andy - Can we have the recipe for the Yorkshire tea loaf? Geoff - Sell Carew, Milner and A Young??? Your nuts! Chiefy - Bad lad ref shirts |
Chiefy
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...Whats with the 'Miss World' competition ribbon? if anything that would be a training top |
AussieLion
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... Keep it up Chiefy, I like the black one with the diagonal stripe too! They are all so good so far. |
Villa_Chris
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...Former Aston Villa star quits coaching aged 93 Is this why our style of football is out-dated? |
Chiefy
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... Another rumour on the sponsor is Stanley Tools ?!?!! Makes sense Ireland comes he is a tool what better mascott |
Chiefy
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... Just having a mooch round the web trying to find info about our new shirt. now on my way round the world wide web I have stummbled across many other clubs blogs and it is amazing the amount of them that are actually quite impressed and respectful to Villa because of our sponsorship deal with Acorns nearly all of them wish their own clubs we do something similar it makes you proud when you see stuff like that about your club from other clubs, even the yids envy our shirt deal and wish levy had the minerals to do something similar |
Andy
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... Dont get me started back on cake....I got an IP ban for a couple of hours yesterday...! Liking the kit designs. I also read about Sony and Seat being possible sponsor some time ago too. That may have been for last season, but I've slept since then and can't remember. |
Chiefy
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... now if we link up with TATA that is quite a coop as it was reported that United want Indian giant Tata to sponsor shirts following collapse of AIG so what can we make of that ? |
Chiefy
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...Is that logo a mushroom or umbrella on a beach..? I have heard its a magic mushroom and you get 2 free with every purchase |
Villa_Chris
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... http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Foo...1,00.html? Loved the bloke! Hope he gets to stay in the premiership and we get to see him next season. |
Andy
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...That last shirt looks like something out of a Manga cartoon! Have you already been on the mushrooms John..? |
Chiefy
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... I love the last shirt, I would love TATA as a sponsor they are huge, they own Land Rover, Jaguar, Rover and MG. They have business interests lots of different areas and are one of the biggest companies in the world. |
Villa_Chris
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...I love the last shirt, I would love TATA as a sponsor they are huge, they own Land Rover, Jaguar, Rover and MG. They have business interests lots of different areas and are one of the biggest companies in the world Yep...and we (where I work) make their car parts |
Villa_Chris
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...According to reports, Tottenham could use Jermaine Jenas, a player O’Neill admires, as a makeweight in a possible deal for Davies That sounds alright to me. We don't need Davies, he's 4th in the pecking order so to gain a Midfielder from the deal would be good business in my eyes. |
John Salter
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... Jermaine Jenas - Is he any good these days? Jermaine Defoe - Would be more like it. Should have got him a couple of years ago when Villa were looking at him! |
krisavfc
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... omg I see we're shopping from Celtic yet again, although I would like to see keane and mcgeady come in, would not like to see zamora in especially to replace carew!!! Darren bent, gabby agbonlahor, john Carew and robbie keane for next season please :-) can't believe I'm acctually going to say this but old crouchy lad wouldn't be bad either!!! |
Chiefy
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...Jermaine Jenas - Is he any good these days? its an upgrade from s**twell to jermain sillarse never going to set the world on fire but an upgrade none the less, Inter where linked with him some time ago so there must be something there lets hope oneill brings the best back out of him |
John Salter
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... Lets hope so eh? Dont know what happened to the ginger boy since arriving at Villa, whether it was the pace of the game or he just turned out to be not good enough! |
John Salter
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... Haha what a mincer! Looks like its half way through the operation to me! As its quiet on here today heres andy's recipe for yorksire tea loaf: 200g raisins 100g currants 50g glace cherries 425ml freshly made yorkshire tea 2 eggs 1/2 teaspoon mixed spice 270g self raising flour Its described as average in difficulty to make and takes an hour and forty minutes to bake! |
proxopera
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...Jermaine Jenas - Is he any good these days? Even f**k**g Jermaine Jackson would be better ! |
proxopera
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...although I would like to see keane and mcgeady come in, Kris , I dunno if you watch the rep of ireland games but Mcgeady is pretty much a one trick pony . I would say he's better than Maloney but nowhere near Duffs standard. If we were going to sign Keane , i would go after Duff .They two of them have played on very successful under age international teams and have a great understanding. |
rocky5
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...... i bet the shorts have been photoshopped off and |
John Salter
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... I see Richard Dunne has spoken out concerning the possibility of James Milner going to Mercenary City! Basically he said if he did go, he'd spend time on the bench because he would be one of many expensive players there. Good comments made by Dunney and no doubt accurate. Why go £'s guaranteed, trophies not guaranteed! MON and Mr Lerner I'm sure will do everything possible to keep him unless they offer stupid money and Stephen Ireland! |
Villa_Chris
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...Don't you people have a job to go to? Chiefy will go off on one again in a minute! Apparently, he has a job that would make your toes curl.... I don't even wanna know what it involves doing! |
John Salter
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... the pensioner - yeah i'm doing it now and keep having a sneaky peep on the blog |
AussieLion
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...According to reports, Tottenham could use Jermaine Jenas, a player O’Neill admires, as a makeweight in a possible deal for Davies Yeah that sounds alright to me. Although I doubt MON would replace him for Petrov so hed most likely be a bench player. But still id like to give it a chance, wasnt he considered to be a future star a few years back? Although I dont know if this is true. Why would Tootenham want Davies when they could attract higher players? |
AussieLion
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... Still loving the black jersey with the stripe diagonally across it! Its one of my favourite jerseys ever, even if it isnt the real one, but I hope it is as I'd buy it straight away. Also it can fit the Acorns logo where it is and a main sponsor on the front which is a win win situation. |
John Salter
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... AussieLion - You like that kit becasue it looks like an Australian rules football top! |
Andy
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...As its quiet on here today heres andy's recipe for yorksire tea loaf: Or you could just nip down the shop and buy one made by Taylors of Harrogate for a quid Don't you people have a job to go to? I'm a baker apparently...! |
Damian
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... my job for the next 2 months is to watch football i had to take time off my real job to do this too... fantastic |
Andy
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... That's ok because I get paid for doing bugger all too. Just been speaking to my Man City supporting mate and I put it to him we will be exchanging Milner for Ireland and thet we will be getting the better player and they will be paying us millions for the privelidge of it....He actually agreed that's the way he and a lot of his City mates saw it. But on the other hand he said they are not bothered because it's just money and they can afford to do what they want....! |
krisavfc
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... proxopera, Duff's good and they have linked up together in the past but he's knocking on abit now whilst megeady's only 23, he could do well at villa, learning from the likes of downing and young!! however ibwas just saying that becase if we are going to buy from Celtic those are the only players i'd like to see come in :-) |
Maindog
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... Bye bye Feddie. Will miss the little bugger... http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Foo...81,00.html |
Chiefy
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...Chiefy will go off on one again in a minute! Apparently, he has a job that would make your toes curl. you would know all about toes curling Vasoline boy |
Hemmings
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... Why are we letting Freddie Go? He's better to have on the bench than Shorey. I'd probably still play him ahead of Warnock. |
Chiefy
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...Aston Villa striker Marlon Harewood is set for Champions League football with Turkish champs Bursaspor. wait till they realise he is a trier but overall he is s**t !!! |
Chiefy
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... Some rumours Hamit Altinlop – Bayern to Villa (Free) Kenwyne Jones – Sunderland to Villa (6m) |
Chiefy
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... steven ireland will join aston villa in the summer. (not official but according to his agent he is more likely to play in an aston villa shirt next season than mancity) |
Chiefy
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... I think I am going to have a flutter on Keane and Ireland both coming to Villa Park |
krisavfc
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... I suppose stephan Ireland would be a good signing for us, thing is I don't think they'll just want money, they already have it!!! they'll probebly want milner for him :-/ |
John Salter
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... Kenwyne Jones eh Chiefy! He'd be good for getting on the end of crosses and he's quick. Wasn't he injured and then kept out of the starting line up for Sunderland? Dont think they saw the best of him. Dont know the Hamlet Antelope bloke! |
john doyle
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... keep milner and buy ireland simple he wants to leave just the player we need you can stick jenas up your arse he aint half as good as sidwell all the spuds fans say he is rubbish and cannot get a game |
Chiefy
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...20m + Ireland for Milner is rumoured! Taxi for milner !?!?!?!?! John - Kenwyne, Keane, Gabby, Fonz i think there we would have pace, intelligence, target man and youth and to me I like the sound of that as a front line, sell Lionel to Stoke for 7million after the world cup stormer he is going to have get rid of all the other wasters s**twell and so on job done !! Get me MON on the phone !! |
krisavfc
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... John salter- I knew that iwas just saying that if we were getting ireland we'd only get him if milner was involved :-/ |
Chiefy
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...City are in Madrid to discuss a deal for Real Madrid trio Rafael Van der Vaart, Fernando Gago and Gonzalo Higuain, Milner is not daft he will see he wont get the game time at s**teh so I dont think he will be going anywhere, Ireland has put in a transfer request so as long as we meet his valuation they cant ask for milner or naff all else the knobs, Oh i do hope it back fires, Milner stays Ireland turns up with Keane in his silly range rover !! |
Aero-4-Villa
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... id give Milner to City for Johnson and Ireland... letting us get rid of downing for around 9 million. We'll then have around 30 million to spend, letting us buy (sorry Chiefy ) Mesut Ozil, and Edin Dezeko. JOB DONE! Champions League here we come! Starting 11: --------------Friedel------------ -Cuellar-Collins---Dunne-Warnock- -Johnson------Ireland------Young- ----------------Ozil------------- -----------Gabby----Dzeko-------- *Dunne in bold for captain! (Sorry Stan) Subs: -Carew -Delfouneso -Petrov -Albrighton -Reo Coker Even if we didnt get Johnson, and didnt sell Downing. I'd still replace Stew with Albrighton! All that is just what i'd do if i was manager! I know lads, i should be, but...  |
Villa_Chris
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...Oh i do hope it back fires, Milner stays Ireland turns up with Keane in his silly range rover ! Me too!! Kenwyne Jones – Sunderland to Villa (6m) Vaseline for JPA!! |
Villa_Chris
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...Nahim Khadi, president of the Sierra Leone Football Association, said: “Nigel would bring exactly what we need for the national team – leadership and experience. Love the passion of this bloke! |
Chiefy
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... ------------- brad -------------- cuellar - collins - dunne - warnock young - milner - ireland - downing --------gabby --- jones --------- bench -- petrov, brad, keane, fonz, albrighton, clark Now where is MON's number again ..................... |
Chiefy
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...“I would go down on my knees and say to him – ‘Reo, your country needs you’.” and he would probably try to chin you and then moan about how he hasn't had a fair chance but then tell everyone he loves it here and how he wants to stay !!! |
Maindog
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... Chiefy... I really cant see Petrov, our captain, sitting on the bench! I would rather play 3 in attack, Ash, Gabs, Downing and have Milner, Petrov and Ireland In the middle. I really want to see another ambitious bid or two from MON, like the Sneijder bid last summer....Hleb or Joe Cole...Just have a go MON! If you dont aske, you dont get. And if you do ask and still dont get, at least we will have had an ounce of excitement in the transfer window! |
Chiefy
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...I would rather play 3 in attack, Ash, Gabs, Downing and have Milner, Petrov and Ireland In the middle. never thought of that but that would give us a plan B and we could even go as far as having a Plan C by playing 4-4-2 diamond with petrov holding and either milner or ireland attacking behind the front 2, As for petrov not wanting to go on the bench, his legs are going Milner will be captain if he stays i reckon and evolution, we have to except that and understand that some of the regulars are going to have to miss games because to get better we need to rotate and have more than one game plan ....... and for that reason it wont happen so dont worry |
.vogra
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... Chiefy, i quite like the look of at that squad you've put up, my only change to that would be to bin Gabby and put Carew in.. |
Maindog
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...Chiefy said: Yeah your right but you know MON, if their legs are still attached, they play. I like the thought of Jimmy being our captain. Although I think Dunney will get it when ever Stan misses out. |
TheDiamond
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... Anyone here that wants McGeedy at Villa needs their head examined. He is the most one dimensional, one footed footballer I have aver seen and not only can he not cross, he barely ever attempts crosses. Look forward to him making lots of pointless runs into cul-de-sacs and eventually having to pass the ball backwards or lose possession. Remind you of anyone? |
Chiefy
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... I think if we keep Milner it might have something to doo with his contract as a added bonus for him to stay, the squad up there looks good and there is so much that you can change and adapt making us very fluid and seemless which would make it more difficult to play against us and easier for us to change the way we play.. for example we could change to 4-3-3, 4-2-4 and 4-4-2 diamond without making a sub by making a sub we could go defence very easily but still allow the team to be fluid I need to do my coaching badges capello's contract runs out soon !!! |
Maindog
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... Gutted for Warnock...I had high hopes aswell after Baines had a stinker the other night! http://www.skysports.com/footb...92,00.html |
proxopera
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... Chiefy , if we sign Ireland , I will hold you and your tomfoolery directly responsible . Nature has a way of warning us away from things which are not good for us, take for instance the rattle on a rattle snake , the arse on a baboon (that ones for you mate) , and finally , the driver of a pink trimmed f**king range rover ! The prosecution rests m'lud. |
Craigy1874
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... Chiefy where did you hear this mate ? steven ireland will join aston villa in the summer. (not official but according to his agent he is more likely to play in an aston villa shirt next season than mancity) |
dingbat
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... Maindog-I see your point but J.Cole's move to Spuds is stalling cause he wants £5M a year! Out of our league I'm afraid. Best of luck to Freddie. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... got home and the missus had fish ready for tea, i coulnt help but laugh |
frem
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... for dunne to say something in public about ireland, i think that mon might of asked dunne about him or dunne has told mon about him. does anyone know if what dunne said about ireland is true because ssn never reported it did they? |
b30 villain
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... Anyone fancy this shirt for the world cup Football T-Shirt Ronny Number 10 England WorldCup SzL on eBay (end time 24-May-10 0621 BST) __________________ |
meregolfclub
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... question:- would you pay chelsea £10mill for joe cole and pay him£50k a week on a 4 year contract? answer:- yes you would. which is exactly what you would be paying joe cole if you paid him £100k a week and got him on a free transfer. come on martin youre the clever one do the maths.get him signed, he is not out of our league. anyone agree? |
andy5759
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... I see that Bursaspor (Turkish champions) are thinking of signing Marlon Harewood. That would mean that he would be playing Champions League football before Gareth Barry! Wow! What were the odds on that happening? |
andy5759
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... meregolfclub - yes I agree, with the added bonus that if he's on a four year contract he could be sold after a year or two, meaning profit or some money back. Win, win, win situation. |
andy5759
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... You know, I am quite ambivalent about the Milner situation. On the one hand I would be gutted to see him go in a 'leveraged' bid because it might show our inability to retain key players. On the other hand I have not seen too much from the lad in the last year, as someone pointed out on here the other day, he has had the 'season of his career' voted player of the season, but only scored three or four goals from open play, has made only four or five assists. I know he contributes vastly in other areas but that alone doesn't make him our star player. To grow we sometimes need to see our favourite players move on, it's a shame but there you go. |
Chiefy
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...Chiefy , if we sign Ireland , I will hold you and your tomfoolery directly responsible . |
dingbat
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... meregolfclub- for a player with a very poor injury record over the last two seasons? Then having half the first team beating a path to the managers door wanting to be on the same wage? Risky! |
holteend paul
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... looks like gabby is player number three citeh are keen to take from us for 23million, this has got to prove to people that we are not far off from being a very good team... lets keep the players and add to them this summer by selling the fringe players! |
dean baker
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... i think the right decision would be to take a swap deal for milner and cash for stephen ireland and there right back black guy plus 20 million |
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