Written by Damian Wednesday, 16 December 2009 09:44
The double bubble post-mortem is coming but before we get to that, we have more speculation. This time, our very own Carlos Cuéllar is attracting interest from Spanish giants Real Madrid. Apparently.
Now, with speculation you can either do one of two things; completely ignore it or take it with a pinch of salt. What I like to do is look at the source then determine the legitimacy of the speculation.
This story comes from Mirror Football. Mirror Football is owned by Trinity Mirror who also own Trinity Mirror Midlands who publish the Birmingham Mail, who employ and pay Bill Howell.
Now, I'm not saying that one bad apple is spoiling the whole sports news business of Trinity Mirror, but I have more faith in Dave Armitage at the Daily Star than I do in anything published by anything remotely linked to Bill Howell. Sorry Bill, it's not your fault.
These type of papers and websites will actually give targets to people to publish a set number of stories a day and what they do is trawl the dubdubdub for something that will court controversy. It is their job to do this so they generate traffic to their respective websites which in turn generates clicks on ads on their site. It's also so they can sell space - more traffic more value, but it isn't real and you know it.
Think of the paper like Jordan; she looks nice but you know they're not real and it's all a front.
So, I take this with less than a pinch of salt, I take it with a grain. Actually, I take this story with a nannobacteria sizes piece of salt and I don't even throw it, I just suck up speculation like this and spit it out. In fact, I can shit this story and it is such a nothing story, that I wouldn't even know I've shit myself.
King Carlos is making that centre back position his and while I have no doubt that he'd like to play for Real Madrid if given the opportunity, I fancy he quite likes it at Villa and if he can make the Span squad while playing for us, what is the value add to playing in Spain?
Right, post mortems coming up and I've just seen a headline about hailing our heroes. Can that be true? Surely not. I'm off to investigate.
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neil57
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... Actually early  No way will Carlos leave. Real lack the team spirit we have, end of. Utter tosh |
Mike Carter
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... On the plus side, if this is true, we can command a pretty sizable fee from Madrid. I'm thinking at least £20m. That's not a bad markup considering the time we've had him. |
Damian
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... vivavilla you are right and we have james collins and ciaran clark sitting in the wings - but you wouldn't want him to leave would you |
Mike Carter
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... No not at all. I'd take a player in form over money any day. I'm just saying if it did turn out to be true, you can't ignore the fact that Carlos probably would be interested in joining one of the biggest clubs in world football and probably doubling his salary at the same time. |
Andi
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... I told you yesterday about this, I asked Carlos out right on his facebook page ( as i have him as a friend get me ) and got no reply which is unlike him as he replies to all of his wall posts. It would make sense for the club and MON, Davies is coming back and he wont sit around and we paid a big fee for him, many think he is better than Cuellar. Cuellar's mrs, family etc etc is in Spain we would get a big fee for him if he did leave. Not saying i want him to go but if he did we have cover ( some think the cover is better anyway ) and this would give MON more funds come jan for KEANE etc etc etc |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... I doubt he would leave. Plus going to Real is a huge gamble and many better defenders before him have failed there due to their open play . Canavaro springs to mind. I think Cullar is actually more suited to the rough and tumble of the Pl then the different style of the primera div. |
neil57
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... After reading Chiefy's post, maybe it is true. But...... : Will he play regularly? Will it help him in selection for SA. I think playing for Villa so well is better for him. Unlike Viva Villa, my glass is always half full UTV |
Andi
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... ak_27 -- i agree with you Cuellar is suited to the PL allow imagine the pull of a a club that size in your own country where all you family, friends and mrs are, his wages will double. I guess it depends on how much he is willing to gamble if it works he would become a great if it fails he would become forgotten. Or he could stay at Villa Park and be part of the Champions League Carnival come the end of this season !!  |
John Samuels
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...defenders before him have failed there due to their open play . Canavaro springs to mind. I could have sworn he was instrumental in their league title win under Capello? But I agree Cuellar won't go and even if he did consider it MoN wouldn't let him go till the end of the season anyway. Not that he will. There is no way he'd let a first team player and one of our in form and most influeantial defenders just stroll of to Real even if we did get £20m for him. From his point of view it would probably be too risky. You'd argue that on current form he might have a prayer of getting in the Spanish 22 for the world cup. If it takes him sixth months to settle at Madrid he';s blown it already and it took him 18 months to settle with us. Poppycock (Damian)  |
colm tarpey
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... Cuellar has been our most consistant performer from the start of pre-season all the way up to now, will play where he is asked to and will not let us down. He has been better than Dunne so far (and this is coming from an irishman) and I for one, would be loathe to see him leave. If we have ambition this season.... we need to be holding on to our best players... of which he is one. |
Andi
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... JPA - now you have put it like that with the settling in period and that nope he wont go he is staying with us his motivator is the world cup squad and as you have explained that wont happen if he moves to madrid and it takes him a while to settle in. Might be close to a full house Saturday ?? I love it when the games are like this coming fast means we dont have to long to wait to get |
Darragh McGeown
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...Another 8 points and we're safe, phew !!! You've got high hopes for the season |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA maybe im wrong but i thought that they still struggled at the back? Maybe im wrong but as long as ive been watching football that is where Real have always been suspect and then every summer they go out and but more attacking players. |
Richard Smith
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... For me, this brings another angle to all the english players that MON's been buying. It would be a huge pull for cuellar to go back to his own country to play for arguably their best team. If he wasn't spanish I'd say theres absolutely no chance but if Real is interested, I think it would be very hard for cuellar to resist. However, we aren't a selling club. If you want to play with the big boys you don't go selling your best players. Look at where west ham are now they sold collins. |
John Samuels
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...If we have ambition this season.... we need to be holding on to our best players... of which he is one. Exactly right. We are not a selling club anymore as I said to Chiefy yesterday. I'm fed up of big clubs thinking they can bully us in the transfer market and just walk off with our best players because one of theirs has a broken nail or a cold. 'Short Shrift' is what they should get and i'm sure that is what Martin will give them. He'll slap a £30m price tag on him, that should do the trick. Anyway, I say all this but the story is obviously complete balderdash, just like Pennant last week and Green yesterday. You can tell the window isn't far away cos all the bulls**t stories are starting to emerge. There's nothing quite like the media feeding frenzy that is the January transfer window is there. |
Andi
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... Ak-27 - moves to big clubs are a risk in themselves, if it works you become a great if it fails you end up a no one, NANI he took the risk and now he is rotting curtsey of SAF, Babel same on the flip side Rooney worked with Man Utd it was a risk at the time A.Young worked with us even though it was a risk i guess it depends how confident you are |
Darragh McGeown
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... Guys - Cuellar has been playing in Scotland/England for the past 3-4 years. He's not stupid, he knows that his game will suffer moving to a different league which in turn will seriously damage his chances of heading to SA. However, he might move in the summer after the WC but don't hold your breath! |
John Samuels
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...Real have always been suspect and then every summer they go out and but more attacking players. Too right, they never really learn their lesson do they. If they had Dunne, Cuellar and Warnock in that back four and Petrov in front they'd p**s it! Chiefy, if Toure is worth £18m and Lescott £24m then surely we could ask for £35m for Cuellar?? Did you win anything on the Mule last night? |
neil57
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... Keegan must influence Real, we will score more than you JPA put it well, too much of a risk for CC. MON did not allow Barry to go,a strong decision IMO. CC is def staying. I think, unlike Barry, he would not want to leave. |
John Samuels
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...However, he might move in the summer after the WC but don't hold your breath If we made the CL he'd definitely stay. The team spirit in the camp is good and as a player it must be very satisfying to think of yourself as part of something historical. It's not as if we're a maudlin mid table side...we are on the move in the right direction. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...the pull of a a club that size in your own country where all you family, friends and mrs are, his wages will double That would be the worry. He might just see this opportunity as something he couldn't refuse and if he really wanted to go then I think we would have no choice but to sell him as long as our price was met. I’m not saying we should as we would struggle without him if Collins got injured. MON would also not want to sell no matter what price as we would struggle to find any decent replacement in Jan. But in fairness to Cullar he doesn't seem to be the type of person who would be easily enticed by the bright lights of madrid. He seems like a down to earth type of guy who likes to get stuck in where it matters and you really can't get stuck in in Spanish football. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Cheeky bid for S Ireland ? Would be a great signing but one I can't see City ever going for. They don't need any money and they would not be too quick to give one of their competitors a player who could really enhance their team a lot. He would probably cost around £20m anyway after his perfromances last season. I would like Andy Reid at Villa but again I’m not sure how much that would cost as Sunderland aren’t really strapped for cash either. |
beh
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... I guess this will be an ongoing saga for all players, now we`re getting noticed and all. The one that worries me ( was it viva villa )is o`neill. Man u, Liverpool, even England in the summer- maybe looking for their next manager. Like the jordan analogy damien, very apt. It`s all mountains and mole-hills or (insert pun of choice ). |
Keith
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... Can someone explain the minds of the blueknobs please. They win 5 games in a row, which is very good but they were against Fulham, Wolves, Wigan, West Ham and Blackburn, not exactly the best the PL has to offer, and they think they will qualify for Europa League and Lee Bowyer will take the Ballon d'Or off Lionel Messi !!! I would like to thank everyone who welcomed me back, I'm feeling the love and a little emotional  Chiefy - what's your name? Will find you on FB. |
Darragh McGeown
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... keef - are you back to admit you got it wrong about Dunne? Only messing with ya mate |
Car Frost
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... Morning all, what a cracking performance.. I'm starting to get that feeling back again I had at this time last year but trying to ignore it until after the Arsenal / Liverpool games. I'm off to put a bet on Mourinho managing Man City by the end of 2010.. theres no way he can stay with Inter after that cock up |
John Samuels
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...would like Andy Reid at Villa Not good enough imo, creative but not athletic enough for our side. He seems like a down to earth type of guy who likes to get stuck in where it matters and you really can't get stuck in in Spanish football. A good point, am I right in thinking that he spent his career to the age of 23/24 puddling around in the lower spanish divisions? It was only at Nukmncia and then one season at Osasuna where he wasn't even a regular that he got a UEFA cup run and earned a move to Rangers where he played some of the best football we've seen from him. I think it's fair to say football over here suits him very well. |
neil57
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... Now that Keef's back, will Taglor suddenly crawl out of the woodwork????? Chris must still be hungover. Any of you there last night? The atmosphere seems as good as Holte? Life is good, eh, viva? |
neil57
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... Keef, got it right away Very funny The optimism is amazing. Bosses in Brum must wonder why production is so good. Am I right, weren't we the only midlands club in the prem a few seasons ago? It would have been clever to have bet on Man Utd to win last night before announcement of teams. Tantamount to match fixing IMO Don't think Chelsea will have been too impressed. Small Heath must be almost safe from relegation now |
John Samuels
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... Stephen ireland is a great player....would he get in the team tho?  Now that Keef's back, will Taglor suddenly crawl out of the woodwork????? Transfer window should bring him out from under whichever rock he's hiding under....i miss him  The one that worries me ( was it viva I can't see it, Capello will stay imo as there is the European Championship and he seems to like the job, I think this willb ehis last jopb too. Liverpool is a poisoned Chalice and we have better squad than them anyway. Man U is the only wory, but I think mon is all about creating his own legacy, not living in someone elses shadow. I think he's safe. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Not good enough imo, creative but not athletic enough for our side Maybe the old Reid wasn't atletic but he has shed a lot of weight this season and was up and down the pitch last night for the entire 90mins and was a major torn in our side. He should have scorded on a few occassions and also set up a few great chances with pin point passes and crosses. I would love to see him combine with Gabby as he would be the perfect man to really untilise his pace with intelligent through balls. Reid reminds me a lot of Dunne in ways. A young Irishman who had lots of ability but liked the sauce too much in their younger days but seemed to have grown up a lot later on in their lifes and really begin to start fulfilling their potential. He can also play CM. He played there for the ROI under Staunton and ran the show againest the Germans a few years ago. Really stood out that night as the best player on the pitch in Croke Park againest some top German midfielders. Versitile, intelligent,skillful,creative and adapted to the English game. We could do a lot worse this Jan. |
neil57
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... Andy Reid is overweight and slow. Stephen Ireland for 20 million would be good business. BTW, remember we wanted Bentley, considered too dear at 17 million, so we took Milner at 12 instead. I feel we did ok Hey, Churchill, where are you? Some rhetoric, please. Getting tickets for the Liverpool game is very hard UTV |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Utd will be also be a poisoned chalice. Who in their right mind would want to be the first manager to come into Man U after fergie leaves? |
Andi
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... JPA - man utd would not have MON the reason is because he wants to do it his way and not SAF way, Liverpool would want him but who in their right mind would go there ?? KLINSMAN would, ENGLAND i can see it one day and one day MON will be ENGLAND manager you can put money on it but not yet he is still making history with us for now  |
stig
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... The more I see Cuellar the more he is starting to remind me of Mellberg. We need to get the Cuellar songs going, Rangers had a few decent ones, check out You Tube. |
neil57
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... Ok, AK You have persuaded me, a cheeky bid for Reid. Dunne knows all these guys. Knows Ireland well, might not like him, all that granny funeral stuff I would love to see some young guys move up. BTW, spoke to MU fan yesterday, as you do Asked him about Macheda. He says the lad is too young and may not be seen for a while. Welbeck is ahead at mo. |
Andi
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... ak_27 -- there is only two managers I reckon who are big enough and good enough to manage UTD when SAF goes and that is |
Mike Carter
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...Utd will be also be a poisoned chalice. Who in their right mind would want to be the first manager to come into Man U after fergie leaves? Mourinho. Guarantee it. |
Andi
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... I didnt know that CUELLAR was born in Madrid and Madrid are his boyhood team, similar to us and GABBY that changes everything doesnt it ? |
Mike Carter
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... neil57 Not quite sure what you mean, my glass is usually always full, I've not been negative about anything. |
neil57
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... Just read Fantasy stuff. Dunne is top defender. Fabregas and Drogba are way ahead. Remember the rumour last year that we were going to buy Drogba? Posters rubbished it What a finisher. Arsenal miss a top striker. Arshavin is tops |
beh
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... I don`t think mon likes out and out play-makers. He turned petrov into a holding player. At Celtic and Leicester i can only think of muzzy is`nt it, and he was a tackler aswell. It seems to be multipurpose or bust with mon. Totspurs fans well impressed by reid aswell. Said he ran the show at the lane. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Knows Ireland well, might not like him, all that granny funeral stuff The guy is a quality player but an absolute idiot off it. didnt know that CUELLAR was born in Madrid and Madrid are his boyhood team, similar to us and GABBY that changes everything doesnt it That would worry me. |
John Samuels
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... We need another quality option in midfield and a seriously good 20 goals a season striker. Then we'll probably have enough to win the league.....and i'm not joking either. A £15m Joe Cole and a £30m Torres in the summer anyone? We usually get about £40m - £50m don't we? Torres might be available if Liverpool don't make Champions league and we do. |
neil57
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... viva, no offence, you appear unconvinced by our recent surge with what I conceive as pessimistic posts Maybe I am too optimistic as had a stroke 12 weeks ago and making great recovery. Played golf at Royal Dublin last fri and drove back 116 miles in 1 hr 50 mins. We do not have the congestion you have in England BTW, my Dad was a brummie, hence villa connection My sons are 4th generation Villa fans. UTV |
Andi
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... AK-27 - just been reading about him, Madrid is his home town club and according to reports in Spain Madrid are preparing and offer for him. They have cleared it with the Spainish manager he gave his consent to it as CUELLAR has been told he is being watched for SA. I am not sure why we are so concerned though yes he is GOOD and NO i dont want him to leave but its NOT LIKE we dont have ample cover and the money would come in useful wouldnt it ? |
neil57
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... Gott In Himmel Imagine Joe Cole and Torres at Villa Park. They would be the icing on the cake. You must remember how high in esteem outsiders hold MON. All this utter crap of sacking him are total garbage. MON and RL are bringing this club up to where it should be. We support Villa because we love it, not because we expect it to win everything. That is one of the reasons why we are so respected. Churchill must have gone |
John Samuels
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...And while we're at it JPA, we'll get Aguerro for £50m. I don't think it's that ridiculous. Mon has enquired about Cole before and he'd be a great addition. Torres would cost a lot, but he is arguably the best striker in our league and with the right package he might even come if we qualify for the CL and Liverpool don't. Mon would probably rather find more value for money tho. There will come a time when we will have to add the final piece of the jigsaw and with a midfield packed with quality, a good keeper and one of the best defences in the league then the final piece would be a world class finisher and we'll have to pay through the nose for him. No player is worth £50m. |
Andi
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... JPA -- Torres will be going to Man Citeh Joe Cole good shout, Keane, Bentley, Dzeko, Ozil, Hamsik Cuellar goes plus our normal war chest and with our newly found C/L status in the summer the glamour signings will arrive in their Range Rovers, Porches, Ferraris and Austin Alegros |
Andi
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... little bit scared to say it as i think he is the MULE mark 2 but i can see Carlton Cole coming back to us and Keane is possible |
John Samuels
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...JPA -- Torres will be going to Man Citeh Only if they make the CL. It sounds ridiculous, but we might be a more attractive prospect. |
John Samuels
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...little bit scared to say it as i think he is the MULE mark 2 but i can see Carlton Cole coming back to us and Keane is possibleI mentioned him a while ago and think he would fit perfectly. If they go down I can see MoN doing his usual relgation club raiding in the summer. Cole and Noble anyone? |
Andi
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... JPA -- Only if they make the CL. It sounds ridiculous, but we might be a more attractive prospect Money talks, Money talks dirty cash !!!! |
neil57
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... Noooooooo way Carlton, you have the wrong Cole. If we make chumps league they will come in droves. BTW, Gabby drives a Lambo, cant do a lot bettert Torres will not go to City. They are like the Magpies of the mid 90s, all attack and no defence. Lescott would not make our team, as for Bridge, LOL. As we all say, this season is a big chance to move forward. Come on Dunne |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Joe Cole seems to be very injury prone over the last few years which would make a gamble of paying 15m for someone who may miss half of every season. He seems like a real London guy who may not want to leave the capital? He is a quality player though. Carlton Cole is someone who drove me mad the last time he was here. He was lazy. The fact DOL sold Crouch and brought him in on loan was probably the start of DOL's downfall as we went back that season and i blame Cole for a lot of that. He seems to have matured as a player but he would be a gamble. |
John Samuels
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...He seems to have matured as a player but he would be a gamble. He was young back then and I really don't think O'Leary was the man to get the best out of him. We used to play defensive football with a former defender at the helm. You can tell MoN was a midfielder can't you. If Cole can produce the kind of performances he has been at West Ham who are relegation candidates imagine what he'd do learning from Emile under MoN alongside Gabby with through balls from Milner. He could become a huge player for us and England. He seems to be more confident and ruthless than Heskey and I like him very much. His underachievement and struggle to break through at Chelsea seems to have made him a pretty tough customer these days. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... I still think we need a really skillful type striker to come in next. A little play maker type who can link up very well with the midfield. |
neil57
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... JPA, I just dont see that. collins must know him well. Hammers fans, i know, say Collins was far better than Upson. What do we know? Carlos was costlier than both Dunne and Collins, all three still cheaper than, in total Joeleon LOL |
Andi
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... JPA -- one word .............. NO ! I hear what your saying but do you think i would be able to cope with EMULE mark 2 ???? think of me not the team or the goals think of my health !!!!  |
John Samuels
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...JPA -- one word .............. NO ! I hear what your saying but do you think i would be able to cope with EMULE mark 2 ???? think of me not the team or the goals think of my health !!!! You'd love it Chiefy, I think Cole is a better player with the ball at his feet though. He isn't as clumsy as Heskey inside the 18 yard box. ak, I think you are right, however with the addition of another winger I think we already have him. If we signed Joe Cole or Bentley to play in a wide right or left role then Ash could slot in there a treat alongside a big CF like Carlton Cole. |
Andi
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... MON likes his big man small man approach so I can see Carlton Cole being the player he picks but he might have to bring that forward to Jan if what the media is saying is true as Cole will be sold in Jan. If that is the case who will he let go MULE or CAREW ?? |
John Samuels
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...If that is the case who will he let go MULE or CAREW ?? I think that is obvious, Carew will go, possibly to Turkey for a £5m fee. If he is available in Jan then MoN will have to buy him in Jan. |
Andi
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... JPA -- I dont like the thought of it nor do I want it to happen but i think you may be right. So in Jan we could see Carew and Carlos leave ?? although you would see lets say Possibly Bentley, C.Cole, Gorrans and DAVIES would be fit again what would be your thoughts then ? |
John Samuels
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... I trust the little Ulsterman. He won't let Cuellar go easily and I don't think he'll leave personally. Cole for Carew would be a good move, Carew shows signs of laziness although at times he is excellent and Cole has all the ability to be as good and he is several years younger than Carew and more hungry. Bentley would be a good depth signing and would give us some more passing quality and quality on the ball and another great delivery. Dorrans I don't know anything about, but I trust O'Neill. At 20 and £4m he seems worth a punt. What sort of player is he and what are his strengths? |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA don't want to start a war here but I really don't count Young as that skilful. He may become a good player in that position( striker role) but he really struggles to go past players and that is down to close ball control when dribbling(and he was not marked by more then one when he was getting dispossessed easily last night). Milner is far better than him in this regard, so is Downing and to be honest his performances are beginning to annoy me now(and his mouthy attitude at the oppossition also). I thought he was actually terrible last night and yes he worked hard but so did everyone else. His deliveries again were poor and without that he really isn't anything that special. He also kept giving the ball away with very sloppy passes. If we are to get top 4 then he needs to step up to the plate regarding what he does on the ball. Its been over a year now since he was really performing. |
Andi
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... JPA -- Madrid is his hometown team mate much like we are to Gabby now if Gabby was at say Madrid and we bid for him imagine the pull that would have. I think it would be unfair to keep him against his will or make it hard for him if he wants to go, lets face it we have DAVIES coming back and he wont keep his toys in the pram for long if he ain't playing, i dont want it to happen but i can see it happening. Dorrans dont know mcuh myself to be honest sorry but like you say 4million worth a punt. Carew when he turns up is immense and you would want him in your team without doubt but it is the gamble on if or when he turns up . Bentley was once touted as the Beckham replacement, attitude aside he has bags of quality and if anyone can sort him out its MON. |
Andi
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... JPA - Dorrans is 22 played in scotland for livingston is 5'9 and is down as an attacking midfielder/striker |
Andi
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... according to the daily mail that gorrans has got a trial at VILLA ??? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/spo...Villa.html |
rocky marciano
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... how about bentley on the right and move ash up front with gabby just like the yorke/cole partnership that were fantastic for manure with beckham on the right. |
John Samuels
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... ak, I thought he was actually terrible last night Harsh mate, I thought he played very well last night. He is a better player than you give him credit for. |
Keith
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... Rocksteady - if you read yesterdays after match post you will see that I begged forgiveness from ak for my misgivings of Richard Dunne  |
Icklechuck
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... Hi Guys Love the banter and opinions on this blog - IMO, watching last nights game - i think big Kenwyn looked a handful early on and would be a better 'big man' option than Cole, Reid was good although id take Cattermole over him,hes young, comitted - if a little over comitted sometimes - but he wants it. Can also see NRC and Sid returning South at some point - perhaps spuds as some kind of deal involving Keane, who, after his affair with Liverpool, is struggling to win back the yids affection. Also think Jamie O'Hara is worth a punt - like Cattermole, young and wants it - he's only on loan at Portsmouth. Only my opinion boys - all the best! |
neil57
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... I agree with JPA, Ash is a fine player. How many times has Beckham been rubbished? Ash is capable of strokes of genius,like Beckham. I was not a fan of Downing, however, he has turned out to be inspirational. MON is not stupid, he studied Law before going to Norwich. A friend of mine played with him at Distillery, he was a class act then. The successful Forest team was tight knit, without world class individuals. Where is Jerry ?????? |
Rios.Jockstrap
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... Dont know why you have even bothered wasting your time in writing and publishing this bollox. Listened to Sam Allerdyce the other day, and i think you will agree that he calls thing how it sees them. No Bull from him, straight as a dye. He said regarding speculation, that he expects it now with the january window just weeks away. He said that he does not even bother reading it because 99.5% of it is utter bullshine, and that it will only get worse as papers fill empty space. Unless the club are real or anyone else concerning other links actually say something regarding that link, then we should simply save the paper for when we run out of loo role |
Darragh McGeown
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...Rocksteady - if you read yesterdays after match post you will see that I begged forgiveness from ak for my misgivings of Richard Dunne smilies/tongue.gif Much to my disappointment I missed that Fair Play! |
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... Afternoon chaps! KEEF!! How have you managed to free yourself from my cellar? Hope you managed to get that gimp suit off! Is there something going on with you and Chiefy by the way? Super result again last night! Played some good football again. Aren't you just loving the Downing effect? Milner is a superb player!How many assists and goals has he scored since moving into the middle? Dunne was immense too, as always. (for you Keef ) ....I was wrong about him too, don't worry. Carlos won't leave, he loves it at Villa, like most do. Bring on Stoke! Keef, make sure my train isn't late! |
neil57
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... Hiya, Chris. I have been singing Andy William's songs to myself all morning Rio is right, all utter poppycock The team spirit is 2nd to none. Went on AVFC site and listened to interviews, all very upbeat. There must be another post coming soon as DD has been very quiet |
Chris Platt
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... With supposed bigger clubs linked with our players even if it is just paper talk shows you how far we've come. Really excited for Saturdays game. We must and will win it, but the defense must be ready because Stoke will come at us-after all the same will be said of them as was said of us last Saturday - They have nothing to lose. If we wern't before we are now expected to win these types of games |
Aaron Wilson
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... it annoys me that we have imo, a world class center-back in James Collins that we cant make use of. Hes too good to be sittin on the bench... but so too is Cuellar. This might sound a bit far fetched but i would love to see Collins given a run at CDM. We all know he can defend and is amazing in the air, but he has a quality long ball too! i suppose it would just be interesting to see how he does... is all. UTV! |
shemmanz
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... If he goes then we can get micah richards his a right back and we need to get him to replace cullaer and that miguel but thats not very lightly. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Ash is capable of strokes of genius I don't count whipping 12/13 crosses into a box and one eventually working out as genius. That is more down to playing the % game. If he were to start being a lot more consistent with his crosses like Beckham was then yes but for a long time now he has either over/under hit a vast amount of crosses. Last night he had a simple ball to play in for gabby and he over hit it by nearly 20 yards. Yes Gabby was tripped but he wouldn't have had a hope of getting near it if he wasn't. Young seems to get far too much praise for doing very little above the ordinary for Villa over the last 12 months. Right now he is the weakest link in the midfield. I sat this as many ask who would get dropped if we buy another midfielder and right now it has to be said that Young would have to be the number one option if we did bring someone else in. If Young was anywhere near his performances of over 12 months ago we would be some team. I just don't understand how a players use of the ball from play can deteriorate so much over such continued amount of time especially when we have seen he has the ability. Is that down to just confidence or down to application? Its well known that Beckham's crossing wasn't just down to talent but down to a hell of a lot of extra work after training. Now I don't know if Young isn't doing this but his output on the pitch certainly doesn't show any signs of improvement and I can't see how he would be short of confidence bearing in the mind the huge praise he gets from his manager no matter his performance. Right now i think he is shadow of his former self. |
Andy Scarborough
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... No way should we sell him to our CL rivals (assuming they qualify of course). If we had to we should only let him go there for £10 million and one of their strikers. |
Damian
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... stig i quite like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6pV9x96FmY carlos cuellar .. |
jerry
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...Hey, Churchill, where are you? Some rhetoric, please. Neil, just about to submit something to the boss. He may like it, he may not. The main topic isn't Villa but another favourite place I like to visit. Think 'bin-dipper' meltdown. If we win the next two matches, Stoke and woolworths, I shall be waxing lyrical. |
Martin Clabon
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... JPA, come on mate, their is not a chance on Earth of Torres coming to Villa, this was a joke right? |
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