Written by Damian Wednesday, 02 September 2009 23:07
Rumours are rife that Marlon Harewood is set to join Newcastle next week on loan for three months.
The rest of the season rumour that is touted also is a little misleading as we can recall him but I for one think it will be good for him to get some regular football.
Harewood, if you believe the speculation, was set to join Hull yesterday but it fell through. This deal, seeing him move to Newcastle should see him get regular football and give him the opportunity to restart his career.
Harewood might not get many chances to play but when he does, he gives it his all and I mean no disrespect when I say this, but he will score for fun if he does go to Newcastle.
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Simon
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... A good deal for both teams if it goes through. Lets hope he bags a few goals, we may get a few extra mills in the Jan window then |
Mark
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... I like Marlon, who can forget that 2-2 game against Liverpool. I thought it would be the beginning of many games for us. Good Luck! |
NickC
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... Marlon Harewood is a bit of an enigma. I initially thought he'd be a good signing for Villa but somewhere along the way, whilst MON must have thought the same, he fell out of favour immediately. He's genuinely never been given a proper run in the team and I would think most of his starts have been from the bench. Not so sure he wouldn't have been just as prolific as Gabby given a decent run in the team. I think his performance against Spurs was the performance when he fell out of favour and I really dont think he's ever recovered from that in MON's eyes. Good lick to him and I hope he regains some form. I think if he can score a goal or two, his confidence will come back and he'll be flying again. If he does well enough, whats to say he wouldn't get another chance with us but I doubt it. |
ruffy
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... He is a top Championship striker/decent bottom half-midtable Prem striker. Doesn't look good enough for a top 6 side to me. Top bloke though, always played to win, and put in 110%. We'll probably get 3 strikers injured now! |
Big Al
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... Just the kind of player we need, someone who will work hard for the team and chip in with his fair share of goals! good luck for the rest of the season lads, hope you break the top 4 monopoly this year, 2 good former newcastle players in your team too in beye and milner. give beye time, you will see he gives you everything, something missing in many foreigners nowadays! |
John Samuels
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... I just remeber himj scoring a hat-trick against us for the hammers. Love his attitude, but doesn't get close to our other strikers, not even Delfouneso or Heskey. It's time for him to move on and good luck to him. Glad he didn't go to Hull tho, probably would have got another Hat-trick against us. Good luck Marlon and thank you. You'll always get a round of applause at Villa Park. |
Chris Harper
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... I've always been a fan of Marlon as a person. As people have pointed out, he always puts in 110%. He's never moaned about not playing either, even when he was scoring off the bench regularly. Top professional. Good luck Marlon! You deserve a challenge! |
adam
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... shame for marlon it just didnt happen for him did it. i think the championship will really suit him. Good luck marlon |
Le Shava
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... I hope this materialises as he would score for fun down in the fizzy. I have always been fond of Newcastle and i hope they achieve promotion. |
gareth horton
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... good luck 2 marlon he always tried his best but my mate is a geordie an he gave me loads of stick when we signed the hare so i cant wait 2 rub extra salt in his wounds after goin down |
vdv
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... this could change marlon, come back to villa with 10 goals at newcastle and start scoring for us. come on marlon. |
Cyprus Toon
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... Anyone wud think yer a top 4 team the way yer bang on about how he's ok for a bottom half prem team  You're club is no better than most of the Prem teams, you only get into the top half because you the best of the worst teams, not because you're any good!!! I mean, you even failed to stay in Europe before it started You're worse than most of the TOON fans who still think we're something we're not, just get off yer high horse & get a real life!! |
bowburnmag
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... Great craic on here lads. Genuine football supporters and I hope O'Neill gets his chemistry right to see you take your place at the top table this season. www.nufcblog.org spreading the joy. |
Car Frost
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... Feed the Hare and he will tell you he's not actually hungry. Cyprus Toon - Take him and good luck, sounds like Milner envy to me  |
Davies
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... If it's true, I hope he's good for us. He looks a threat when he gets to plat. Might I just add that it's nice to see Villa supporters offering nice comments about departing players (even if it is for a loan) rather than the slagging off you see players get when they leave other clubs. Best of luck in the prem this season. See you next season. |
Davies
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... Way to go Cyprus Toon. You've just made Newcastle United supporters look like a bunch of petty jealous idiots. I wonder where we get our rep... |
J D
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... Good Luck Marlon thanks for the 110% effort i hope you fire newcastle back up to the premier league its not the same without them |
Dave Shep
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... I like the Har. I even went on TalkSport when we signed him and told Wrighty how I thoiught he'd do well for us and he was a good signing. 110% doesn't equal prolific striker though and I can;t help but feel with a good run he would've scored more goals, but there must have been a reason why MON didn;t play him regular, and who am I to argue with MON? |
Le Shava
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... Although Cyprus Toon sounds a bit childish, the fundamentals of his argument are for the most part very true. Villa aren't really much better than most mid table sides and you will probably finish around 8th this season. |
David Smith
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... just get off yer high horse & get a real life!! That's rich coming from a toon fan! How's life in the chumps league? |
John Samuels
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... Cyprus toon. I believe we were saying that Harewood would do well for you. He isn't getting a game for us so wouldn't it be good if he came and scored some goals for you? He's strong, Quick and puts in 110% every time. After watching Newcastle scrape a win against Leicester the other night with Guthrie having to step up because you don't have any quality up front I think he could get 15 goals for you if you take him all year. Newcastle need to be in the PL I feel as they are a proper football club. Don't come on here banging the European drum though. Sure we're out of europe and we're a top 6-8 side. No one said we weren't. It was simply stated that Harewood could do well in the championship because that's the standard of football Newcastle play now. |
john franey
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... Best of luck to marlon,Il never forget the luck on his face in the dugout last season when the fonz was asked to come on ahead of him,Cud"nt help but feel sorry for him,Then i thought about the size of his bank account  |
John Samuels
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... Le Shava Welcome back, gonna stir up some misery today? Unfortunately for you there seems to only be positive bloggers today. Chuck a few insults around and i'm sure Taglor will come out from under his rock tho. |
robb david
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... Do you remember all the toon fans lost year when we took milner? I remember he was a terrible player, he would never play for england, the toon were gonna finish above us in the cl places, and the best we could hope for was 8th. Im worried now they are saying we are a mid table team at best, look how much of what they said last year came off. |
Le Shava
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... Juan I am no here to argue. Believe it or not, I have only really come on here with the aim to wind people up once or twice, and that was down to sheer boredom at work. I just statte my opinions, that is all. Most of the time people will agree with me deep down but continue to argue with me as they dislike the idea of a 'outsider' highlighting your sides flaws and weaknesses. |
Dave Shep
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... Its sad really, I mean we offer support and encouragement to one of our players going out on loan to a Championship team, and suggest that he might be able to score enough goals for them to help them back into the Premiership, and they just rant..? Very odd. Did anyone see the Geordie Sofas sketch on Shooting Stars last night? Maybe that annoyed them all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eHkXMTac90 |
Birty
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... Le Shava - Just remind me - how many points was it we took off you last season? Didnt we even gave you a 2 goal lead at villa park? Oh yeah - we even missed a pen at your place and still gave you a footballing lesson. Talking of your place - have you actually managed to beat us there? Not bad for a mid table side really.... |
Steve Badger
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... I'm not going to get involved in a row with Barcodes, as I like the club and want them back in the prem. I too like Marlon for his effort, but it should be noted that he didn't do much at Wolves, even though they were chasing promotion. 0 goals in 5 games. That said, I hope he bangs them in and comes back to us in good form. |
gareth horton
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... badger marlon did score 4 the wolves only once mind but heh every goal counts |
bass
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... i think he will do very well up there and i hope he does!!! i would love it if he scores a hat full and comes back and gets a place in our team! i think he is a top bloke, if this had happened to some other strikers you would have had front and back page stories anbout them but he has always just got on with it! first class pro good luck marlon!!! |
bri
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... cyprus toon hang on mate am support newcastle but thats nopt the way to go on about them they all seem genuinly upset that we got relageted and a think villa are a crakin side considering they havent got owners like city and chelsea and to be fairthey have took the best 2 players we had over the last few seasons harewood will be a good signing for us as donky is shit and he might teach danger a few tricks toon army toon army |
Mike Carter
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... He may always put in 110%, but when you've got the god-given ability of three-legged donkey it doesn't really matter. Actually that is a little harsh. On the donkey. |
taglor
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... Marlon is a selfless individual, never moaned about not having to work whilst he was paid 1000's of pounds a week, so selfless for the cause how he ever did that us mere mortals will never know. And when he did play he actually tried to win, a weird cocept for us underlings but praise be to him and other footballers like him, they are deities from another dimension. Thank you from the bottom of my arse marlon for takin the money and being happy to not have to work for it. We now have Carew, gabby and heskey dont count. |
croni
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... Restart his career at Newcastle? sorry i had to laugh when i read that the guy will get a long term injury within a month at the club |
The Football Prophet
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... Can we lend Heskey to Newcastle and keep Marlon "Biggie Smalls" Harewood? The hare gives more, is a better player |
tooooon fan
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... well 1st off i would like to apologise for some of my fellow toon fans for trying to engage in an argument that for obvious reasons we cant win you are a premier league club and we arent. FACT what i would say is good luck trying to break the top 4 its gonna be difficult but you have more cover in your team this year which isnt just a substitute for injuries but also tiredness which i thought was a massive reason for your down turn in form towards the latter part of the season any way lets talk about harewood from your comments it seems you rate him extremely highly what type of player is he what is his strengths is he good at holding up play or is he the ype to try and get behind defences ????? |
jerry
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...He may always put in 110%, but when you've got the god-given ability of three-legged donkey it doesn't really matter. vv I read somewhere that he's on £25K per week, which equals £1.3 mil a year. Ain't bad for a three-legged donkey. Beyond belief, really. Toatally insane. |
The Football Prophet
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... Taglor, could be worse - could be a lump who scores 1 goal on debut gets paid a heap more and is overweight and doesn't try when on the pitch |
John Jordan
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... Welcome to all the Toon fans that come on to this site to offer us there "Valuable insights".....It's really appreciated....Just behave yourselves,and do not abuse our Great team....I am standing outside your front door at this very moment with my walking stick at the ready!!!!!!!! |
The Football Prophet
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... What's Heskey on Churchill? If it's more than a bag of oats per week I'd consider his pay more excessive that The Hare |
Steve Badger
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...badger marlon did score 4 the wolves only once mind but heh every goal counts I stand corrected Gareth. I took my info from Wiki and totally accept it's probably wrong  Badger You don't need to tell me mate It's a weird one. I'd love him to come good for us, but for a bloke his size, he goes down as easy as Ash, imo. He's supposed to be a striker and his job is to score goals. He simply doesn't and that, to me makes him a liability. I know all about the argument about the rest of his game and his contribution, but I just don't see it for Villa. Put it this way, I reckon Hesselink (just gone to Hull) will average a better strike rate this season and for me that's not good enough. |
jerry
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...any way lets talk about harewood tooooon If you know how to get the best out of him, he'll get you goals. I remember when we played the blues he partnered Carew and the pair of them completely bullied City out the game. He's very strong and knows where the goal is. First time he came to VP with West Ham he got a hat-trick against us. I think he'll do well in the Champs. Get promoted fella. You're too big to swim in little pools. |
John Jordan
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... Tooooon fan MON never played Marlon long enough to enable anyone to make a good assessment of him...I hope he does well for you.  |
The Football Prophet
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... Welcome Toon fans. I've got some spitoons that need cleaning and some chimneys that need sweeping be a good lad and run down the store to get Viduka some Balti pies while your down the high street you can enrol in the English as a second language class at the comprehensive |
Steve Badger
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...any way lets talk about harewood from your comments it seems you rate him extremely highly what type of player is he what is his strengths is he good at holding up play or is he the ype to try and get behind defences ????? That's a good question actually. We never really saw that much of him to guage him properly. He's very athletic and runs around a lot. He can hold his own in the air and is certainly an out and out striker, in that he doesn't hold the ball in the same way Heskey does. He can finish, as was proved when he got a hat-trick against us. With decent service, he should get you goals and he'll pull his plums out for you. |
tooooon fan
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... tooooon If you know how to get the best out of him, he'll get you goals. I remember when we played the blues he partnered Carew and the pair of them completely bullied City out the game. He's very strong and knows where the goal is. First time he came to VP with West Ham he got a hat-trick against us. I think he'll do well in the Champs. Get promoted fella. You're too big to swim in little pools THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLIMENT IM SURE HES A GOOD PLAYER AND IF HE DOES COME I THINK HELL DO A GOOD JOB AFTER READING SOME OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE A GOOD STRIKE FORCE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP I BELIEVE WITH SHOLA RANGER LOVENKRANDS AND HOPEFULLY HAREWOOD THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED A CB LB AND MAYBE A WINGER OR TWO AS OUR SQUAD WASSMALL LAST YEAR AND ITS A LOT SMALLER THIS YEAR WHICH WILL BE A PROBLEM IF WE WAT TOKEEP UP THE PACE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SETTING THOUGH I HAVE FAITH IN HUGHTON WHO IS DOING A GOOD JOB |
tooooon fan
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... thanks for the info badger i believe he should be good for us in the championship and if he works as hard as people say he does then im pretty cure hell be a fans favourite |
Cian Donaghy
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... i would be shocked if he manages a better ratio of 1 in 3 if he goes and thatisnt catagorised as 'scoring for fun' |
Abdul Kashif
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... We'll never forget the Hare's overhead kick at Anfield! Well, Heskey scored 2 in 15 last season and I'm pretty sure the Hare could've matched or even bettered that total! |
The Football Prophet
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... I'll never forget the brace the hare scored for Villa against the Mancs in my pro-evolution season Take that scum Who wants Heskey!!! |
Steve Badger
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... Fifa have banned Chelsea from signing players for the next two windows after a dodgy signing! OT, I know, but that seems harsh? |
Davies
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... Can't hurt to give him a try. Hopefully it won't interfere too much with the development of players like Ranger and Carroll. It's always good to have options, especially if those options bring experience to the table. It's not my place to apologise for the behaviour of others, but you seem to be coping well enough with some of the more aggressive toon supporters posting on here. We're not all so foolish. Good luck again with the push. |
Steve Badger
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... The player involved has been fined just under 800,000 euros!!!! Sorry for the OT, but I'd say that's pretty big news. Source is SSN. |
jerry
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...Churchill, Marlon's hat-trick was at their ground, not VP. AAAAAAAaaaarghhhhhh !! another senior moment. Sorry. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... 2 things will always stay with me regarding Harewwods time with us. Firstly that brialliant goal at Anifield. Couldn't belive it when it went in. The other isn't as nice. I will never forget that stupid pen he gave away at Spurs when we were 4-2 up late in the game. I could see him doing it a mile away(it was like slow motion) and was shouting don't do it you muppet when he decided to jump on top of a spurs player who was going nowhere. One of the worst nights ever was throwing away that 4-1 lead at Spuds. Still i wish him the best. Im sure he will be a very good signing for Newcastle He is the type of player that would get many decent teams promoted but just not good enough for the PL. |
John Samuels
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... toooon fan, You should take Barry Bannan, Shane Lowry and Isiah Osbourne on loan. Good for the young lads to get experience and i'm sure they'd help you out. We have a lot of kids who are gonna be big players in the future. |
Mike Carter
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... I'll never forget that goal he scored against Reading. That goes down as one of my favourite Villa goals of recent times, if not the favourite. Superb goal. He's still not a very good footballer though. |
Eoin Greene
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... Taglor - briallient stuff!! The nobel peace prize awarded for outstanding benchwarming duties whilst suffering several splinters in his arse, and playing with commitment whilst picking up a mere 25k a week - goes to Marlon Harewood. They dont make heroes like him any more. |
Damian
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... The boo hiss was for me not publishing comments with links in when a link has already been dropped. It is considered link dumping and sometimes spam. |
bowburnmag
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... Ah right sorry fella. That's what I was checking. Apologies in accordance and fair do's. The sentiments remain but that's between me and thee Damo |
tooooon fan
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... angel are they either cb lb or a winger those are the positions we need we have some good young players too krul is 1 of the best goalkeepeing talents in the world ranger is excellent carrolls good kadar i am sure will be important in years to come and haris vuckic chose us over ac milan and is apparently wanted by real madrid he is a huge star over there when he left there was a press conference and everything just to inform the people of slovenia that he was coming to us shane ferguson already has 1 full n ireland cap to his name and brad inman is meant to be excellent also and apparently the next generation according to richard money (our academy manager) is even better |
bowburnmag
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... To be fair, I'm used to it. I always get wrong for my dumping but mainly off the missus and generally because of the stench. |
tooooon fan
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... angel what positions are they we need cb lb and maybe a couple of wingers we also have some good young players krul is very promising ot be 1 of the worlds top keepers kadar has great potential also vuckic is a huge play in slovenia when he left for our academy there was a press conference and everything he is wanted by real and even turned ac milan down for us (why i dont know)ranger if you watched the match against ipswich is brilliant also carroll is promising ferguson already has 1 full international cap for n ireland brad inman is also meant to be to be showing pottential |
Chris Harper
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...To be fair, I'm used to it. I always get wrong for my dumping but mainly off the missus and generally because of the stench Lol |
John Samuels
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... Bannan plays left wing, Lowry plays CB or LB and Osbourne is CM. Bannan has had two good spells at Derby and Osbourne has spent some time with Forest. Lowry may turn out to be the best of the bunch in my opinion, but then again we have Clark. Christ, guarantee Shorey first team football and you can haver him for a season Le Sheva, Are you a redscouse fan? or just a trouble maker?  |
tooooon fan
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... well we dont need a cm so i wouldnt take osbourne as for the lowry he seems like the type we could use bannan would be a good option for us and as for shorey lol i would love him at our club though im not sure we could guarentee first team football as enrique is actually at top half epl standard and keeps improving and has amazing pace but we could definately use shorey as in the championship games come thick and fast especially as we have never been a club too get lucky with injuries and we have a fair few internationals which not many clubs in the championship do |
John Samuels
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... Since you're on here, do you blame Ashley? Or would you say some of the more unreasonable supporters who dream of instant succes are to blame for the mess a St. James? Not a pop, my housemate is a toon fan and he seems to blame some sections of the support as much as the chairman etc. I have to admit that we get fans booing sometimes because all of a sudden people think we have a right to be in the top four. I myself am a little more realistic. |
Steve Badger
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... JPA, Le Sheva, Are you a redscouse fan? or just a trouble maker? He's an arse fan mate. He does sometimes add some decent neutral input, but has had a tendency to be provocative of late. |
The Football Prophet
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... Vivavillan Neither is Heskey - in fact I would say his effect on the Villa is pernicious in that he has actually cost us points Hare over Heskey ever time for me |
Ed
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... I like Marlon, really don't understand why MON hasn't played him for ages. Scored some good goals for us, as well as some important ones, I'm thinking of his goal at anfield and his lovely finish against reading which ended up being the winning goal. In other news... CHELSEA ARE SCREWED! |
tooooon fan
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... angel i blame ashley for a lot of things the kk saga was his fault and im not angry about what happend to kk i am more angry about him lying wise (well wise but he hired wise and im sure ashley had something to do with wise lying to the fans)told every one that kk would have the final say and k didnt which was fair enough or would have been if he had just said kk doesnt have the final say then i personally would have supported ashley wise and llambias as it would have been clear that kk knew what he was getting in to but instead they lied to us and kk then when kk left he gave out a statement which showed a lack of class where they tried to make out that kk knew he hdidnt have full say when previous statements suggest that that he didnt but i do blame fans for ta lot we are far too demanding i i dont blame the fans for thesacking of allardyce which alot of people do because we booed him in november and he was sacked in jan which was when some fans were starting to warm to him i do blame kk though for suing the club if he does love our club so much why is he suing us ????????????? |
bowburnmag
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... I know you weren't asking me, so I apologise but I'll answer anyway. As with all leaders, the buck stops with Ashley. Having said that, I always thought I knew what Newcastle fans wanted. With the advent of forums and blogs you get a better insight and I'm no longer sure I do know what we want as a collective. After everything that's happened, most NUFC fans of my generation would just like some normality. Get back to being a proper football club again without Coronation Streetesque tendencies. |
Altan Kargaci
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...In other news... CHELSEA ARE SCREWED! Brilliant isn't it , have some of that Kenyon and Abramovic !!! |
John Samuels
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... ak, I am an optimist you are correct. I am also a realist. I accept that with the squad we have it'll be difficult to break the top four, in fact it'll be difficult to do what we did last season. I would also say that with this squad it's not impossible and will be overjoyed if we were to break the top four monopoly. I also believe that we are more than capable of going on another run like the beginning of last season or like that of the back end of last season. The truth is I just don't know and neither does anyone else. I do however think that MoN has done a good job in the window and signed some decent players. Just because someone doesn't know who they are (actually if someone hears the name of some foriegner thay've never heard of they think he's the next pele) or we don't pay £25m for them then they're crap. I'm more realistic about football as it is an unpredictable game and so much comes down to the individuals involved that no one ever really knows. I remember Boro getting relegated with Ravinelli, Juninho and Emerson in their side????? I like your comments because they are objective and intelligent, what riles me is comments from others like: 'we're s**t this year top ten is the best we can hope for' We are not s**t, we may finish tenth, but we are more likely to finish top eight. If we finish any higher then our squad has to perform and we'll need big performances like Carlos at Anfield the other week and Ashleys game against Everton and Harewoods goal against Liverpool. Individual moments that get us that hard fought extra point. There are many teams of a similar quality like ourselves, Tottenham, Everton, Fulham, Sunderland could be there, Man City. It's on a knif edege, but we are not that bad. I am realistic, i'm not going to boo the team at half time on the first day of the season, in fact i'm not going to boo at all because for every moment the club has given me to make me embarassed to be a Villa fan they've given a moment to be proud of too. |
John Samuels
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... Fair enough toooon fan, It's interesting to get an insiders view. Best of luck for this season. I think you'll probably be ok and go up this year. I just hope the behind the scenes stuff gets sorted because that's the most important thing. A stable club is a happy club, and if the players are happy then even if they're not the greatest players they are sure to play well and put the club back where it belongs. Whatever you do don't let O'Leary take over. |
Altan Kargaci
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... Looks like Davies will be out for a while.... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/...avies.html UTV |
Gary
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... Ffor someone to love playing a game, and not get to do it yet still put 110% everytime he did get the opportunity shows a bit of grit. Whilst I am one of the first to admit he wasn't good enough for us ... I wish him well. |
John Samuels
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... Davies may be out for half a season, that's why we've signed Collins. Clarke, Collins, Dunne, Cuellar. Good luck Curtis, get well soon. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA im getting my hopes up (which normally leads to a big dissapointment being a Villa fan). Just looking at that sqaud it is better in my opinion then last season. But i sill have my doubts on whether MON can actually get the best of this squad due to what i would call out dated tactics and footballing style. I still have major doubts of MON that go beyond just his transfer dealings. Only time will tell and our fixture list looks nice and handy but that is when we cannot afford to drop stupid points which is what we have done in the past. I just really want to see our football progress this season and to see us geting our passing going. That has deterioated since MON has taken over im afraid. That has got to improve majorly in my opinion but is that down to better players or the coaching methods? I have no doubt if that did improve VP would become to fortress which is what is really hurting us at the moment. The sooner Delph takes Sidwells spot in the centre the better. |
John Clark
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... I'm liking that Chelsea news. Marlon does know where the goal is...he always runs in the right direction. |
Villa@hert
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... Le Sheva "Villa aren't really much better than most mid table sides and you will probably finish around 8th this season". Remind me who finished 8th last season!!!! Keep focusing on 8th and that is where you will end up again. |
John Samuels
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... ak I hope you're not accusing me of giving you false hope!! I knew there was an optimist in there trying to get out. I think we play the ball around better than we get credit for some of the time, but you are right. However much passing we did under O'Leary (we only ever played long ball under GT) we never really had the personnel to be a threat. We play to our strengths and that is pace and dead ball kicking. We are slowly building the squad and i'm sure the quality of football will improve as we sign more technical players. Downing and Delph both seem to have an excellent touch and will be big players for us, but even with Gareth in the side we were never that technical. Man U started the SAF regime with pacey attacking football with the likes of Giggs and then Kanchelskis etc and i think thats what we're building here. Play to your strengths and you'll do ok. There is no way we're going to play Arsenal and Man U and Chelsea off the park so play 4-5-1 defend well try to keep the ball and hit them on the break. The lesser teams at home however are a different prospect and we should be able to beat Stoke etc with a passing game. I can't help but think this is the best defence we've had in a while, certainly better than Ridgewell, Mellberg, Delaney and Bouma. Mellberg had a good rep but I think MoN stuck him on the flank for a reason, was never the no nonsense CB we had in Laursen. Warnock, Young, Dunne and Cuellar looks good and a Midfield of Petrov, Reo-Coker, Milner, Downing and Young is as good as anyone outside the top four. If Martin were to get to next summer and add (hypothetical) Scnijder £15m and Huntelaar £18m then all of a sudden we look top four. we have solid, young, pacey, hungry squad that's only going to improve now. My problem with the Gregory years was too many old players, good, but old. GT played ugly football and DOL never really had the funds and wasted money on Djemba Djemba etc. Admittedly he signed Laursen and Bouma but I think in MoN we have a guy who appears to know exactly what he's doing. Just because he's taken a while to bring a few in doesn't mean he's panicking. Either way ak it's gonna be a cracking season full of highs and lows and i'll be screaming at my telly win lose or draw. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA there is a lot of sreaming at the tele ahead. Starting hopefully with an demolishion of the blues next weekend. |
jerry
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...I will never forget that stupid pen he gave away at Spurs when we were 4-2 up late in the game. I could see him doing it a mile away(it was like slow motion) I won't forget it either. That was it exactly. It was like it was scripted. I knew he was going to do it. And I knew we wouldn't win. Not sure I've actually forgiven him yet. |
John Samuels
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... Would you rahter beat the scum this weekend or get a £5,000 pay rise at work?? UTV! |
John Samuels
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... *next weekend* i hate international breaks, I couldn't give t**s about friendlies. |
jerry
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...i hate international breaks, I couldn't give t**s about friendlies. ...is the correct answer. |
John Samuels
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... aah, Churchill. Emailed an article this morning, but the longer it goes on the more i think I could have made it a little more diplomatic. It would almost certainly have meant having a load of Geordies on here grabbing the wrong end of the stick. |
jerry
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... JPA Check your emails. If D is going to put it up he usually says so, briefly, in an email. Did you copy it to yourself? I'm not sure I'd worry about the toons. If the article isn't tagged with a word like "Newcastle" or it's not in the title, it shouldn't bring 'em here. You didn't call D a w****r did you? In the scheme of things that could go against you. If it doesn't get posted as the lede, bung it in as a comment. Or, if you think it's controversial, revise it and re-submit it. |
villa4life35
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... ah shame...... its good he is leaving..... and this story is boring.... you should have talked about how Chelsea have been given a two transfer ban by FIFA......... hahahahaha.. happy days |
paul mclafferty
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... villa giving away tickets v cardiff for any season ticket holder who attended the vienna game and a pl game for non season ticket holders who attended.... hats off to lerner how many more clubs would keep doin this??? |
jerry
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...Gutted about Chelsea...really gutted. yeah, know how you feel. I think I'm gonna burst into tears any moment. Grossly unfair |
TrueVillan
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... the sooner harewood goes the better, he is an over paid cart horse and i will be glad to see the back of him, in fact, send f**kin heskey with him! |
adam
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... off topic i know but has anyone seen the Dunne interview on ssn. He asked if he could stay and fight for his place and they told him they needed the money. Cant be right can it |
PAUL HUNT
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... Anyone mentioned yet the nice piece of ticket news villa have announced www.avfc.co.uk/page/News/0,,10265~1787123,00.html Now Damian will hate me for buying the obvious PR crap but I think its great and I wonder how many other clubs would do the same. I hope all those who went to the Rapid Vienna and supported the team enjoy their free match. Fully deserved. Also Damian on the previous article I scrolled through and saw the usual repeative argument used about net spend, etc, etc (yawn, yawn) and how 40 million really wasn't a true reflection of Lerner's investment. What actual clubs (except the out of this world, crazy Man City) spent more than us (NET SPEND)? Spurs maybe? who else I'm dying to know?! |
Mostyn
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... I rate Heskey. Some people he only looks good for England when he's got Gerrard and co. around him. Eh? I don't get the logic there, or if it is the case then our midfield need to raise their game to get to his level cos he's highly thought of by MON and Fab and is probably one of the first on the team sheet for Capello. |
amar Sunar
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... great news from the club. only question is, i threw away my ticket from rapid and just been on the site. how do i book for free? |
Michael panizza
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... Mostyn - I surprisingly disagree with you, Heskey's crap. I'm not even going to try and justify why I believe he's crap, I'm convinced the bloke has done enough to demonstrate it over the years. Our midfield, on the other hand, is fine: they don't need to raise their game to level up with Heskey because this guy is not Marco Van Basten. They just need to hope MON continues to see the light, keeping Heskey on the bench because without him - oddly enough - we always seem to do better. UTV |
Martin Fallows
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... Monkeywrench Good evening and once again i agree with you, i know we are supposed to believe what the pros tell us about players and the fact that he is and England regular. I pose two questions 1)england is he there because they had run out of options - please dont say yes! 2) I firmly believe that we were doing well till his arrival - sorry the facts state looking tired lost Carew, Laursen etc etc. But when I am alone in the dark and demons come - they look like our team sheet with him on it. Is he death - i think he was we changed to accomdate him - MON its sad but true - soory V63 |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Either Heskey is as bad as we all think, or MON & Capello are both barking. Maybe Heskey will come good this season. Maybe |
Steve Badger
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... I also disagree Mostyn. You're not alone in rating him, Churchill does too. As do I when he plays for England. But for some reason it just doesn't work down the Villa. I think asking the midfield to raise their game for one man is unreasonable to say the least. Surely he should change his game to suit the midfield if he's so good? He makes the odd knock on, but adds very little else for us, imo. He doesn't have the flair to do anything in the hole, doesn't link the midfield and attack up that much and simply doesn't score goals. If we're going to use two strikers, I want both of them to score goals and without wanting to sound like a broken record, he simply doesn't do that. Perhaps it's because of the instructions he receives from MON or the coaches, I don't know. But seeing as a massive majority (I'd say, from what I read/hear) all say the same thing, surely they can't all be wrong? |
James
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... If Chelsea punishment stands will other clubs look to nail each other? City ban for Lescott? |
Mostyn. G
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... Granted he doesn't score enough goals but Capello selects him because he brings others in to the game and England have faired well when he's in the team. I do not subscibe that it's down to othe players making him look good. Utter tosh. He is in there on his own merit and is a huge plus for our team. |
Michael panizza
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... Villan63 - I often hesitate when I try to rate Heskey in my head, something I've done over and over for the past few years: is it possible so many decent managers played and still play him and I just can't see what's so special about this guy? Ok, we agree he offers workhorse quality, physical power and the odd - odder these days - moment of quality but he's not a striker because he's never scored that many goals over the years, he's not a midfielder despite Eriksson's attempt to play him on the left for England and he's certainly not a defender although, no doubt, he comes good when there's the need to defend a corner. I tend to bracket him in the Alan Smith category, a damned breed of players that never seems to find a specific position in a team: you know they have enough quality to be in the Premiership but you just don’t know what to do with them. A bit like an unwanted but pricey Christmas present you end up shifting on Ebay. I think Heskey had a decent career with England because in the category of big lumps up front with some skills and a decent ‘nod on’ ability he was probably the best of his generation: but is that enough to still have him knocking about at the top level? Given the alternatives in England, probably yes. And that is where my beef with MON still lies: if this otherwise clever, engaging manager had the courage to gamble on some quality from abroad, Aston Villa options would instantly increase when it comes to finding a good player. But to suggest the rest of the Villa squad should raise their game to accommodate in the best possible way Emile Heskey’s superior skills well…I guess we all have different opinions on football. Even blind people UTV! |
James
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... Heskey For Villa the worth certainly isn't visible. Therefore you have to look at Stats to see if is happening there. Urmm, nope can't see any impact there either. In which case he is selected based on what he might do in the future. You never know. A lot of us got Coker and Milner badly wrong didn't we? |
Steve Badger
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... Mostyn, You can't even say he creates goals. 2 assists in 31 games? http://www.sport.co.uk/players-football-biographies/39886/Emile_Heskey/index.aspx |
Steve Badger
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... Nan, If Chelsea punishment stands will other clubs look to nail each other? There's a precedent for this at Roma, I think. On appeal it was reduced to one window by a general sports appeal body (CAS). I reckon that's what will happen to Chelski. I suspect it'll have melted welly face a bit worried At first I thought it was a bit harsh, but having thought about it, I'm all in favour of the bodies starting to clamp down on stuff. Gordon Banks called for a season ban for diving today |
jerry
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...You're not alone in rating him, Churchill does too. When did this happen? Badger, I've been making jokes about him being left out when he's been in the starting line-up - he's looked so non-existent. A poster made me laugh, when someone asked what his purpose in the team was, he said it was to get the team used to playing with ten men. I don't care how many managers like him, I think he's a poor value - and, finally, I think O'Neill's come to the same conclusion |
Michael panizza
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...I think O'Neill's come to the same conclusion God I hope you're right churchill |
Martin Fallows
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... Guys Thanks for the stats and comments in the end when you look in the dictionary: - Panda - eats shoots and leaves Striker - person not working Goalscorer - Not Heskey you said, our survey said - "never has or will consistantly" AT AVFC he may be "the weakest link" V63 |
Steve Badger
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... Churchill, When did this happen? Apologies, I must have mis-read a post of yours. Well point proven even more then, that's another one less who rates him for the villa Shame, as even with his previous (playing for the scum) I'd like him to do the bizz. I just don't see it ever happening. |
Steve Badger
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...badger Like it |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Heskey will play agin up top for the Villa next match I have no doubt, what with him having played for them and everything He just can't be aS BAD AS he looks - can he ? |
paul mclafferty
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... mon just cant play heskey against the scum,we are starting to get a strong hold on this fixture so cant afford agent heskey to f4ck it up for us |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... The perfect fixture for Heskey to show his metal. He'll get bundled over so many times against those boys he'll come of the pitch swaying like a punch-drunk sailor. And with a bit of application the man could cause chaos in their penalty box. MON will play him. I'd bank on it. |
Mostyn. G
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... MON and Capello clearly know something the majority don't. I've heard Petrov, Milner and Reo all be slagged off venomously on this site. Maybe that's why they do the job they do and we do ours? |
Michael panizza
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... I know it sounds daft as he's injury-prone...but Viduka in my opinion and with a bit of luck could still do a job and he's a free agent..if we lose Harewood, why not? |
david
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... Thanks for the free Cardiff tickets Villa.....a nice gesture. My wife wasn't so convinced mind you when we were rooting around in the bottom of the bin in which she'd thrown away the Rapid tickets. Thank goodness the bins aren't collected so frequently these days eh? |
IrishVillan
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... Once again I'm at a loss for the slagging of Heskey amongst Villa fans. What is so bloody bad about him? I see every Villa game, and I see every Heskey performance, what exactly is he doing wrong? |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Mostyn. G: Yes there is much negativity, though this blog site is amongst the most uplifting in my view when compared with what else there is out there. |
RAF Ian
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... No way as far as Im concerned with Viduka. Very very lazy player. Doesn't put it in for me. |
Vijay Daryanani
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... stop talking crap and lets concentrate on the football, ive got tickets for westham-liverpool and villa-man city |
david
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... IrishVillain. I'm with you on this one. The criticism of Heskey is completely overdone. I think it's fair to be concerned that he may only really fit into a 442 formation, but to blame our drop off in performance on that one individual is grossly unfair. |
david
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... I thought some of Dunne's comments about the shallowness of team spirit at Man City were interesting and were then borne out by the following quote from Robinho Robinho was desperate to be fit for Brazil's trip to Argentina tomorrow, when his country can put their great rivals in serious danger of missing next summer's World Cup. 'I asked to not play because I had pains in the ankle, but especially because Brazil v Argentina is more important,' he said.It does make you wonder what the dressing room will be like when the team hits a bad patch (as all teams do at some point) |
david
said:
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... One other thought. I haven't gone back and looked at the stats, but my memory is that we had a lot of draws when MoN came in. The next season we turned a number of them into wins. Is it possible that a 451 formation will lead to more draws, particularly at home where the opposition may sit back? It's worth remembering that if you have two draws you get 2 points, but if you throw caution to the wind and win one but lose the other you have 3 points. Might we need to play 442 in some games, or at least revert to it if we're failing to break teams down and want to go for the win? |
vdv
said:
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... ozil, defour, manual jurado, vdv, jenas. all available and we didn't get one of them. ozil would have brought flare, gille, skill goals, vision. he would have been great. i would have been very happy with this window not just happy. bellamy as well. |
steve mid wales
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... MON will change the formation to suit the players he has fit and the opposition we play, I agree I prefer 4 3 3 when everyone is fit but Heskey and Carew are better with another striker close to them in my opinion |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...It does make you wonder what the dressing room will be like when the team hits a bad patch (as all teams do at some point) They will be hitting a bad patch in the form of THE MoNSTER Dunne on 5th October. Expect injuries to City players |
vdv
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... in january defour or ozil and bellamy would be great. just bellamy and defour or ozil in next summer and we r on are way. next summer fredial guzan young beye dunne davis cullar coloins bouma warnock downing milner young petrov sidwell delph reo DEFOUR BELLAMY carew gabi hesk. vill will be on there way. delfonzo will be better and experienced more by then as well. |
steve mid wales
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... If we don't crack the top 4 this season then I hope Man City or spurs do, just to open things up a bit. good luck Marlon |
Steve Badger
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... Mostyn, MON and Capello clearly know something the majority don't. I've heard Petrov, Milner and Reo all be slagged off venomously on this site. Maybe that's why they do the job they do and we do ours? All have had a good game at least a few times, according to the fans. Can you honestly say the same about Emule? I can't. Even when he scored against Portsmouth away, (his high point for us, imo) he was anonymous and gifted a chance that I could have scored. I can't remember his other goal. Has he ever been MOTM? Gabby got it a few times, for scoring a goal, didn't he? The bloke is pony for the Villa, simple as, imo. |
Steve Badger
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... Prediction for Heskey this season, based on 30 games; Goals = 5 Assists = 3 Result = get rid. I truly hope I'm wrong  |
david
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... Badger, might you have said the same about Petrov in his first season though? How long did we wait for him to have his first MOTM? |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Beware the Mule. Feed the Hare. Roll with the Dung Beetle. Heskey to come good this season based on the law of averages or more likely einstein's relativity. It starts agin the scum. We'll use him like a bowling ball on their defence. Sidders should learn to watch the Mule. He's just the player that could benefit if he had the nous |
Steve Badger
said:
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... Badger, might you have said the same about Petrov in his first season though? How long did we wait for him to have his first MOTM? No mate. Petrov showed signs for me and was not consistently crap. He was up and admittedly very down. But Heskey just doesn't work, imo. He's never been an out and out goalscorer and imo, doesn't suit our system. If we didn't have Carew, he'd probably be our best alternative/option. But we do and Carew shows him up for what he is. Which is decidely average, at best. Carew scores goals, Heskey doesn't. At the end of the day, what is a striker's only job/requirement??? I think that's undisputable. He, to me is just not an instinctive striker. I can't remember, was it the Pool game? (it was, ball from Milner) he had a chance that any decent striker would have buried, but messed it up As I keep saying, I hope I'm wrong, but don't think so on this one |
keith
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... ive said before i liken heskey to gareth bale, on paper bales a good player but spuds cant win when he plays |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Balance is the Mule's problem. He doesn't have the balance necessary to be a top class athelete - the man is certainly no ballet dancer is he. I can't see him lasting long on strictly come dancing when his career is over. Maybe he should take lessons from some oriental master in finding his inner focus. Still think we could use him as a demolition wrecking ball of a forward, but the likes of Sidders need to learn to make hay with the resulting chaos |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...how about lessons from a farmer how to hit a barn door Indeed, good one. Actually I think the Mule would make a fairly passable farmer himself. You could see him at the farmers markets on a Saturday selling those very expensive sausages couldn't you. Or in a pair of green farmer's boots, straw in the mouth, herding the cows into milking. I swear MON will pick him for Saturday week. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Sorry, make that Sunday week. I'll be watching on telly anyways. Getting to old in the tooth for the dart in the head treatment. |
gareth
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... i dont believe mon will change formation for the scum game dunne into defence YES but no changes up front i think he will go with gabby and do what he did against fulham bring on the bigman, why change a winning formation |
Steve Badger
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... Fwiw, I'd put the donkey up front against the bloose. If he doesn't score, f**k him off. Harsh? Maybe. But no doubt we'll see. |
Steve Badger
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... Maybe, upon reflection, I'm being harsh Then again, no. Heskey is shite, simple as I'd rather see Fonz |
Devon Villan
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... Spot on, chaps Heskey-so many natural attributes.Theres a mindset/mental prob we can all see it. MON still sees the 'potential' from Leicester days. Ask yourself why did he cost a mere £3m. F/ME £3m!!! I digress-£3m says a lot. ie a guy who's scoring record is woefuk |
Andri I
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... Won't the Harewood just get injured at Newcastle? Maybe it would have been smarter to loan him to Kidderminster Harriers or something like that. He might bag a few goals there |
Mostyn G
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... I'd rather Fonz in place of Gabby. Heskey is quite the opposite of a Donkey IMO, in that he'll be kicking Ass this season! |
KingoftheLions
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... I think Marlon is a great character and trier.. It would give me great pleasure if Marlon scores a hatful and returns to Villa in January pumped up.Remember MON is not perfect-i.e Cahill!! Good Luck Marlon |
colm tarpey
said:
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... I think Reo-Coker will become our Ray Houghton player..his presence will give everyone else on the pitch the confidence to do what they do well....and when he plays well the team will play exceptionally well... With Milner,Agbonlahor,Young and eventually Downing all on the pitch at the same time, we will need him to be in there, breaking up play and marshalling the forwards into becoming the first line of defence...as we will be a little bit top light... Looking forward to the season....a marquee signing would have really excited, but I would think the feeling of confidence I have now will last a lot longer.... |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Harleystaggers: Completely agree and hope Mr O'Neill sees it the same way. Coker should be made captain forthwithe in my opinion. MON may have other ideas though. Why he left him out agains Wigan I'll never know. People say the dung beetle is a man for the 4-5-1 only, but I disagree. He's even more important in a 4-4-2. |
Faccundo
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... Badger - not harsh, just reality Heskey OUT - he is a pernicious influence on the team and loses us points Plus to all those who said Neill wold be ineffective for us when I suggested him - he's now gone to Athletico Madrid who, with respect, are a stronger team than us and are regularly competing in Champions League Mistake...I think so, I just hope we don't see the own goals for fun and penalties like so much confetti at a wedding that certain other signings were liabe to concede last season |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Heskey OUT - he is a pernicious influence on the team and loses us points Harsh ! |
Car Frost
said:
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... Don't know if anyone has read this yet but it's a good piece on Dunne and what he could becom at Villa .. http://www.independent.ie/spor...78163.html |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... frosty: Thanks for that - great read Expect significant injuries to City players on 5th October |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Heskey works well in the right system. But we do not play that system or have the players to really do it. What he does for England is he is the platform/ work horse that enables all the other talented players like Rooney and Owen in his day to get the ball in dangerous positions by opening up space for them by using his physique to hold off the CB's. We don't have Gerards, Lampards or Rooneys in our team so i can't see it really working out for him at VP. I have nothing againest him as he always gives 110%. His only chance i can see is if we partner him with a skillful attacker with a better CM behind him but that can't happen until next summer now. |
Aaron Wilson
said:
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... Marlon Harewood, -101% effort -Scores most chances that fall to him -Given a proper run he will be a great player again IMO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...annel_page Theres a video i made of him and John Carew a while back! I used to have more of Ashley Young and Gabby and all but they got deleted for copyright infringemet. LoL. UTV! |
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