Victory is like drinking beer from the navel of a young Charlotte Rampling (when in her prime) , with the dirty look of self satisfaction splashed across her face, because she knows what you are about to do is wrong, bad, even taboo, but it's just a sweet feeling. I felt like that this morning when I remembered the result.
Then work kicked in and I forgot about it. Then speculation started about two players and last night is now forgotten. The beer tasted good though.
The rumours involve our Craig Gardner and a certain illiterate jailbird called Jermaine Pennant, currently plying his trade and cleaning himself up in Spain with Real Zaragoza.
The Craig Gardner rumour over on The Guardian website suggests that he will be moving to Birmingham City with Wolves showing an interest and after we turned down Sunderland in the summer. The figure getting quoted is £3mn and they cite his three appearances this season as the reason why he will be allowed to leave.
I like Craig Gardner and I don't think he has had a proper run in the team in his preferred position but now that O'Neill can push James Milner or Carlos Cueller to right back, there appears little need for him to keep the player. Well, what can you say? I quite like having club men and I think Gardner should really be given a proper opportunity, but it looks like that now may go to his brother instead.
If he does go to the shower of shit down the road, I wish him and I'm sure everyone will, all the best and regardless of what happens, I know he'll always be claret and blue and that his time spent with them will be done purely for business reasons and to stay close at home and if he does go, he'll always, every weekend, be looking out for our result. It will just be a pity that he ends up playing in the Championship, he is better than that.
The other rumour is that we are interested in Jermaine Pennant. He isn't a bad player but he is tainted. Not because he played for the shower of shit down the road, but because of his time in the big house.
Now, he served his time, so it should be forgotten, but there is just something about him, as a player, that I don't like. Call it mercenary if you wish or it could be something else, I really don't know, but I'd far rather Marc Albrighton got game time instead of him and after all, we've got Ashley Young and James Milner who can play on the right, so do we really need him?
I think now and on that note, the wife has just come home, so I have to go help here with something. I don't know what yet, but she'll have a mental list that she has been thinking up and when she sees the mess I've made, she'll be adding to it.

Steve Badger
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... Shame about Gardner and I agree he hasn't been given a proper run. You can only assume MON doesn't rate him enough. As for Pennant, I don't know. What niggles me with him is his own very high opinion of himself. |
Steve Badger
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... Hey, Damian, whilst I've hopefully got your attention, is there any chance of somehow posting in the previous thread that a new thread has started. I'm invariably a couple of hours slow getting on because I'm too busy refreshing the old one and didn't realise there was a new one |
BobbyPark
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... Gotta agree with you Damian about Pennant, just not what we need right now, especially with Albrighton waiting for a chance. Will be sad to see Gardner go, I still think he is a real talent. Great result last night and maybe MON will have the last laugh when it comes to Emule, the guy seems to have woken up at last and is putting himself about a bit more and even started knocking one or two in. Lets hope he proves all of us doubters wrong. Think Downing is the man who will spark our season. Hopefully we can save United till the final, I think we're played 2 won 2 against them at Wembley ! |
rocky marciano
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... "The shower of shit down the road" |
John Samuels
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...Shame about Gardner and I agree he hasn't been given a proper run. I think Mon rates him and likes his attitude, I think he just simply isn't good enough. He'll be brilliant at Brum and I fancy him for the captaincy there before long. As for Pennant, I don't know. What niggles me with him is his own very high opinion of himself. A good player when he wants to be, but I agree he has a massive ego. Who better to smash this out of him than O'Neill though? If he comes it's a bit more quality and if Milner is going to stay in the middle than he offers another wide option and we'll have four wingers for two positions which is healthy. It also means Young would be available to play as a second strike or in a free role. I wouldn't want to spend any more than £5m on him and the sale of Gardner, Osbourne, Harewood and Shorey would finance this. He is another minimum risk transfer as if he doesn't work we can just flog him in a year, but he has the quality to become class if MoN can tame his attitude problem. |
John Samuels
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...Emule, the guy seems to have woken up at last and is putting himself about a bit more and even started knocking one or two in. Lets hope he proves all of us doubters wrong. I stand by my pre season comment that he'll bag ten goals this season. 8 to go!!!! |
Steve Badger
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... On a similar vein, Liverpool's groundsman was asked how he kept the pitch in such nice condition. "Easy" he replied "we put £90 million worth of shit on it every week". |
Steve Badger
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... JPA, I read Wolves are interested in Gardner too. I'd prefer it if he went there, but doubt they'd match the wages "the shower of shit" can offer him. As for Pennant, it seems they're talking about £2.5 mill. I'd take him at that money. |
Steve Badger
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... Oops, forgot the link; http://www.eatsleepsport.com/a...84836.html |
Jinksy
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... Pennant is a total scum bag and i learnt this 1st hand once when i was up brum buying a Sandwich at a Deli by New Street Station. In came Pennant with is gangsta mate stood in the doorway talking on his mobile like some cockney hard man even though he's from Nottingham & procedded to spit through his teeth after every sentance soaking the pavement....If MON wants him he must be off his head. Was a the game last night thoght we played ok but weren't up against much, the highlight for me was Milner playing in Midfiels along side Petrov & of course the fact that that loser coker wasn't playing. Get rid of him Martin he's a bad egg. He coul;dn't even be arsed to worm up at half time. |
Gwatkins
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... Dont want Pennant as poorer version of players we already have. Gardner is a grafter, but just isnt good enough. I appreciate he hasnt had time in the team, but even so I dont think he as the composure or flair we need in midfield. He is like Lee Hendrie in the respect that he will run himself into the ground but there wont be much end result. However I would wish him all the best wherever he went. |
Rio.Jockstrap
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... Would not touch Pennant with a Barge pole, and i wouldent start making assumptions that our Midfield woes are fixed on the back of one performance against a very weak and poor Pompey. Pennent may be "safe" but we dont want safe signings, we need the cream, not the fudge. If we sign this obnoxious prat, then its buiseness as normal at Villa Park, making do with second rate signings cos someone does not want to spend proper cash on proper class. As for Gardener. Would rather see us give them Sidwell. Why do i get the feeling that Craig will stick one over us? Mind you, all the above is based on conjecture...and conjecture usually means bullshit |
Geoff
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... Jermaine Pennant? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo!!! |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Jinksy: you can't judge a man by how he spits through his teeth |
Damian
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... Pancho Villan i'm just playing now, but they say you can't judge a book by it's cover .. but publishers spend a fortune on making covers - because they know people do |
John Samuels
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... I'd take him for 2.5m and see how much he wanted it. It's make or break time for that lad and he may have had a change of heart since he's been in spain. It'd be a chance for him to really be a part of something and make a name for himself. Footballers are capable of being really arrogant and sometimes this adds to their game. e.g Gary Neville is a complete tosser, but he was an awesome player. If Mon can teach him some humility and he applies himself he could be a decent value for money January signing. It had more chance of succeeding than the Routledge transfer. As for Coker Gwatkins, he is a useful member of our squad and is the only real gritty ball winner in midfield and offers us an more ruthless, rugged option when playing a midfield five. A good option to have. Offload Gardner, Salifou and Osbourne and keep Sidwell and Reo Coker. There's no point holding on to the dregs and offloading the ones on the fringe of the first team. This will improve the overall quality of the squad. |
Damian
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... Cant believe nobody has mentioned Charlotte Rampling ... top totty in her day. |
Gavin Merriman
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... If we can't offer craig football then its only fair to let him go and i wish him all the best. Pennant link must be rhubarb, there is no way we would be interesting in signing him. We need top draw creative centre mid or support striker to push on. Not a disruptive squad player. |
Hoefkens
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... On the talk of midfielders, what about Delph? If MON is now intending to play Milner in the centre alongside Petrov, where is Delph going to fit in? Even if we play 451, you can bet it would be the Ego or Sidwell who would move into midfield, not Delph. And squad rotation is hardly MArtins strong point. It makes you wonder why, having spent 8 mil on a player and started him twice (i think) in the early season, he has made only a token appearence against Wigan since then. |
Damian
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... Badger - just saw your comment ... I think it is done. 10 comments on here in last few minutes and only one on the other |
Steve Badger
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... Must be me being thick then. You wouldn't believe how many times I've been sat on here thinking "where's everyone gone"? Fair enough, I suppose. As for Charlotte Rampling Oh yes, right horny cow. I definitely would |
John Samuels
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...where is Delph going to fit in? Delph is 19 and will come in gradually. He has quality there is no doubt, but he is on a long contract and can deputise for injuries and suspensions. He is better than NRC and Sidwell and will eventually usurp them in the running order. I see him as a long term midfield partner for Milner and eventual replacement for Petrov. Stan is mustard but is already looking tired at the end of games. As this continues he will need to be rested for lesser games over the next couple of years and Delph will come in providing a young enthusiastic alternative. It's about forward planning and building a squad that will improve with age over the next five years plus. |
Max
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... Pleased with the result last night, glad I was proved wrong and we didn't mess up the game. Though impressions are 50/50 about how we actually did against a poor team. As for Pennant, on his day can be a good player, rather have him than Salifou but would also rather give Albrighton a chance to stake a claim for the future. Moving onto Craig, good lad, never complains and gets on with it. Would be a shame to lose him but with Sidwell, Coker, Delph, Petrov, Milner (no particular order) then good luck to him getting a game at VP unless there was a severe injury crisis. Good luck to him and hope he gets a good contract and a better club than the Blues. |
Jinksy
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... Pancho - the bloke is a total f**king retard, can't read or write & has a crimal record. I judge the knob head on his actions. Just like i judge Reo-Coker on his lack of football skills, lack of a clue & lack of effort. |
Damian
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... Juan Pablo Angel if Delph was better than sidwell and reo-coker, surely he'd be ahead of them already? Delph is a risk. How many 20 (he is 20) years olds with promise have failed to live up to that promise. Quite a lot and our club has had its fair share ... Forward planning and squad building are nice words to use, but you could say that if a 20 year old isn't making an impact already at his club, then chances are, getting slimmer for him by the day dont get me wrong, i hope he is the talent we all hope him to be, but i also hope albrighton is, bannan is, clark is and others .. but delph is a big risk. some would say those other players i've mentioned are very talented but they are not getting a look in and i fancy martin o'neill might have just wasted £6mn on bringing in delph. but i'd love to be wrong bottom line. none of us actually know yet |
Max
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... Adding to the Delph thing.. If Heskey claimed he hadn't settled in at the club when he joined earlier this year. Then must take longer for a young lad to move down and get used to the team 'style' and how the others play around him. Not worried yet, if by the end of the season he has still only played 2 or 3 games then that would be a concern. |
Hoefkens
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... My thoughts exactly Damian. I can't understand why MON doesnt give delph a decent run? Sidwell is painfully average and the ego has been out of favour for a while now. Even if Delph was just introduced as a regular sub, or played against weraker opposition. He cost 8 million, making him our second most expensive signing of the summer. Delph was hardly dreadful against Wigan, and as Damian says, at his age every match he sits out is worrying. |
shemmanz
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... Craig Gardner i would like him to go to wolves so he can more lightly to get in the first team and it will make him develop into a better player and jermaine pennant that will be good to see because he will come to villa to get into the England squad and 5 or 6 of are players have being chosen in the England squad so he might come to get in to the squad because fabio is always at the villa ground looking at our players. |
Martin Clabon
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... Damo, really quite poetic, well done |
Martin Clabon
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... I'm with Jinksy on this one, JP thinks he's a bad bastard, steer clear |
John Samuels
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...Not worried yet, if by the end of the season he has still only played 2 or 3 games then that would be a concern. Personally I think thats about right. How many appearances have Macheda, Wellbeck and Gibson made for Man U this season? Forward planning and squad building are nice words to use, but you could say that if a 20 year old isn't making an impact already at his club, then chances are, getting slimmer for him by the day? Absolute tosh, rather than develop in the premier league he came from a lower league. He plays well for England and has shown promise when we have seen him. He will progress and I have seen him win the ball (about the only thing NRC does), ping 40 yard balls across the midfield (NRC and Sid don't do this) and he offers a goal threat (NRC and Sid don't do this) Given time he will oust them but he lacks strength despite his determination and he lacks experience. He is in the first team squad and plays with good players like Petrov and MIlner every day. He will progress with Fonz, Brights, Clark and Bannan and will be an important player for us in the future. Everything has to happen now now now for you Damien, when it is clear that it is a constant building and improving process. It has been a gradual thing over the last three years and we are now making sure we have the pick of the bunch over the next 3/4 years. I satnd by my comments that he will eventually surpass Sidwell and NRC in being stans long term replacement. If he was 23/24 it would be different but he isn't |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Just what did Pennant do while at Liverpool to warrant this abuse ? He's not Joey Barton - he's grown up and moved on. And as to being a retard, he seems at least as bright as Gabby to me. |
heskeyshead
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... i stopped coming here since the close of the transfer window because of the negative/pessimistic posting from Damien and others. |
ryan h
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... delph, 18 years old, one of the most anticipated talents in the country, 4 months at the club, now he is a waste of money damo!!! was ashley young so differant when he joined for the first half season???? give the young lad half a chance for god sake!!! |
Rio.Jockstrap
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... Damian said Cant believe nobody has mentioned Charlotte Rampling ... top totty in her day I was going to, but was to busy playing with myself at the thought |
Steve Badger
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... Don't forget when it comes to Delph, there was a strong suggestion that he's homesick (remember a loan move back up north being mentioned?). If that's the case and he can't get his head round it, unfortunately he'll never make it at the Villa. So it is possible that we've wasted a good chunk of that money I hope he sorts it out. |
Steve Badger
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...Just what did Pennant do while at Liverpool to warrant this abuse ? Good question Pancho. IIRC, FSW did quite a bit to try and persuade him to stay, but he went for the big bucks. |
Jinksy
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... Pancho - Gabby can read & write, gabby does not drive cars that aren't his without a licence while pissed out of his head & having a lampost wedged uder the car with sparks flying everywhere & still doesn't realise it's under the car, gabby does not think he's a cokney hard mad, has not ever had a tag attached to his leg, ever been on curfew, ever been to prison...Gabby has plaed for England is a top player & causes his manager no problems... Or am i missing something????? Pennant is a f**king loser why would Villa want him? would you be happy paying this piece of shiyt thousands of pounds to be either on the bench or in the team playing average?? Easily pleased some fans are but i would nor accept this bloke at my club. |
Damian
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... Juan Pablo Angel Macheda is 18 years old, two years younger than Delph and has played more times for United this season than Delph has at Villa. Macheda is also competing against the likes of Rooney, Owen and Berbatov for a place in a team that won the league last season and had a Chumps League final. Danny Wellbeck is only 19 and faces the same competition as Macheda. As for Gibson, he too has played more times for United than this season and the midfield of Manchester United can hardly be called weak. You cant use those players to strengthen your position when you have already claimed that Delph is better than two of our central midfiedlers yet isn't playing. If O'Neill spent £6mn on him to be the next Craig Gardner or Luke Moore then he wasted it. If he spent £6mn on a player capable of doing something then at 20 years old - he should be playing. Then you take one portion of what I've written and call it tosh. Well it isn't and nothing has to happen now now now for me. I am fully aware that good things take time but I'm not going to sit around and believe the hype when, if I look into the future, with the current manager, I can't see those things happening. This time last year, the excuses getting thrown about were 'building foundations', the excuses or banter getting thrown about now are 'building for the future'. Well, you can build foundations, but you also need to build on those actual foundations and not make plans for 3 or 4 years down the line because when you go back to visit those foundations, they'll need work again. It really isn't about now now now, as you put it. It's about seeing actual, real, quantitative development in terms of what it is we are supposed to be doing and that is playing football. I have not seen any evidence of the football getting better and when I look back, I didn't see good football at Celtic or Leicester under O'Neill and I'm looking for proof as to why that is going to change now and I cant find any of that either. Forward planning and squad building are good words to use when it is so difficult to look at our current team and the way we play football and find something positive to say about it. Bottom line, if Delph was good enough, he'd be playing week in week out right now, but our esteemed manager thinks Sidwell and Reo-Coker are better than him - both of whom were playing regularly at 20. Delph, at £6mn, was a risk. |
Martin Clabon
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... Jinksy is right on this one - in his normal no prisoners way! |
Jinksy
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... Thanks Sid i just tell it how it is |
Scrumpy
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... JPA, I'm with you as always...this is a long term thing, and the team/squad we have now is getting better year on year, and at the same time that long term continuity and future squad/stars is being built as well. |
Damian
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... ryan h who said he was a waste of money? not me. you see, you've read something i've written but not really read it ... i dont know if he was a waste of money to be honest and none of us actually do. i know he was a risk, coming from where he did, but i'd love to see him get a proper run in the team to show us what he is capable of. actually, if you go back, to the first game of the season, i was actually praising him in the match against wigan and was actually shocked to see him subbed (why pay so much for such a young talent and then not let him have 90 minutes on his debut when he was doing absolutely nothing wrong) delph might turn out to be a waste of money though. or, he might turn out to be the best £6mn any manager has ever spent. end of the day - we'll not know for a couple of years but if he isn't starting regularly next season, i wouldn't be surprised to learn it was waste but - none of us actually know |
Damian
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... i just want to add, before someone replies it isn't that i dont want delph to be the next steven gerrad or that i dont want to see milner slot into the middle with him and both of them become teh corenrstone to the england 2018 world cup triumph on home soil its that, we've done this so many times; put hope in players when actually, rather than put hope in players and always buy into the 'future plan' what is wrong with wanting to see the football get better what is wrong with wanting to see aston villa play some decent football? i'd love it if delph came good. absolutely fu*&ing love it. but that has to happen first .. and we've got kids at the club that could do that too ... but delph isn't going to become the type of player we want him to if we are forever bypassing the midfield or just asking them to defend ... for delph to really blossom, we need to change our style of football and that rests with o'neill |
Geoff
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... I know we all excpect a lot out of these kids, but he is still just 20 years old. In the USA he wouldnt even be allowed to drink in a pub! Im not worried at all by the fact that hes 20 and isnt seeing much playing time. He will see more when they sell NRC providing a better midfielder isnt brough in to replace him. Since I suggested trying to buy Cristian Danuel Ledesma from Lazio or Steven DeFour from Standard Liege, then he may still yet get little playing time. I wouldnt just get rid of him though. Maybe a January loan move isnt such a bad idea for him, getting him playing regular first team football at a lesser club. He is still an asset that has yet to develop completely. Id hang onto him for a few more years and see if you cant get something out of him. Also, who cares what other 20 year olds are doing? You need a good mix of veterans anyway, and by saying that you imply that if someone isnt playing regularly by ago 20 in the Premiership - the hardest league in the world - then hes a little bit of a fraud? waste? Not good? Come on, man. He is still 20 years old, regardless of what other kids his age are doing on other clubs. Hang onto him for a couple more years, mix in a loan move or two to get him more PT, and see what you have at age 22, 23. Be patient. Some players develop late, in every sport. They just...get it oen day. |
Steve Badger
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... I actually agree with Damian on this one. You have to ask why he isn't being played. MON sees him everyday (or is that every Thursday?) or he's at least getting reports back from his assistants. Now Delph hasn't done much wrong for me, but you have to assume that he either isn't good enough or something is wrong, imo. MON doesn't seem the type to lay out quite serious money and not play someone and indeed I can't think of an example. If it is homesickness, we'll see him packed off somewhere closer to home, much the same as Maloney. Unfortunately, that will probably involve a fair loss on him, at a guess. Not that I'd blame MON. It was a gamble well worth taking, imo. You just can't take those sort of things into account and if the kid's going to sort it, it will take quite a bit of time. Hence I expect to see very little of him this season. Don't forget though that our reserves would be better than your league 1 sides so he still adding to his education. |
cockneyvillan
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... I think we would all love to see delph playing more and we all want him to do well including damian because we've seen glimpses of his ability . My guess as to why he isn't playing is because we are probably weaker defensively without him and mon wants him to develop his positional play etc. Is delph a risk? yes id say a small one because damian is right we just don't know, hes young and lets hope he can push on. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...but he is still just 20 years old. In the USA he wouldnt even be allowed to drink in a pub But he would be allowed go to Iraq and die. He should be learning his trade on the pitch. Thats where you do it not in the reserves and how Sidwell is ahead of him right now is beyond me. Same goes for Delph, Bannan and Albrighton. I shouldn't have to watch a full blackpool game just waiting to see Bannan a 20 yr old who i have heard great things for 3 years now. That was maybe my 3rd time seeing him and he looked quaility. I realy hope he above all makes it as he would be a crowd fav due to his height alone. And before using that as an excuse i will remind you of Messi and Maradona. It should always be ability over size in my opinion at least. 20yrs old for a footballer is not young. The top players were all playing 1st team football at that age. So either they aren't good enough, MON doesn't trust them or they don't fit into MON's vision of size over skill but i personally think its wrong. By the way regarding Gibson he really needs to leave Utd as he will also go the way of Liam Miller and a few others who stayed too long on the Utd bench when they would have been learning how to play and never really made it afterwards. |
Aaron Wilson
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... it would be no harm selling Gardner. He needs to leave to play football but this time we HAVE TO put a buy back clause in the contract, just in case. things are only gonna get harder for him... the talent coming through the academy is unbelievable. Theres his little brother - Gary, Jonathan Hogg and then theres even Cameron, Carruthers and Stieber who are bound to be knocking on the door in a couple of years. If he cant compete now, he never will! UTV! |
Damian
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... arsenal are playing the kids against a strong man city side and blackburn are 1 up against chelsea ladies imagine if blackburn and man city got through and man utd continue to play their kids - there would be a real chance in this tournament |
Eoin Greene
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... Well I take a diferent view on the Delph debate. Villa as a club need to sign quality players. Villa as a club can sign average players - Reo-Coker, Sidwell etc without any problem, but where we do seem to have a problem is attracking the next level of player. This is down to 2 things - the players want to play for champions league clubs and villa/mon wont pay the big money. This means that there is currently only 1 possible way for villa to sign outstanding players - and that is for them to go out and sign the best youngsters (17-20 year olds). Just for being young - their prices are raised and it easy to sign flops because the very nature of them is that they are unproven. So yes its a 'big' risk but in my opinion one we HAVE to continue taking. My problem is that MoN pays the money for Delph and never gives him a chance. I actually feel sorry for Delph because despite the image of MoN in the press - he has an appalling record of bringing youth through. He hasn't brought one player through the academy since he arrived. The only relatiovely young players that get a game are ones that have proved themselves elsewhere. Mon's lack of belief in squad rotation (whats going to happen in february again..) and lack of belief in dropping players who constantly dont produce is stifling the life out of these youngsters. Carew, Heskey, Sidwell have been terrible all season and yet Delf and Fonz have played 2 minutes between them. Thats two of the brightest talents in europe being kept out by two barrels of sh^t. Its not like Xavi and Torres are keeping them out. I dont think i can find any redeeming characteristic about MoN right now. I used to think he was cool in a geeky way - but now everthing he does irritates me! |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... We could beat City. I hope we get them. They could be in chaos with Hughes sacked by the time we played them. Hughes doesn't know what he's doing |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...I dont think i can find any redeeming characteristic about MoN right now. I used to think he was cool in a geeky way - but now everthing he does irritates me! Harsh |
Damian
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... we could certainly beat blackburn and probably city man city are basically playing our type of football with glimpses of the quality they have showing every now and then. they do hit it quite long quite a bit and don´t really seem that interested in keeping the ball that much it seems like the bubble has burst under mark hughes and i really wouldn´t be surprised to see him be the next manager to lose his job in the premier league |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...it seems like the bubble has burst under mark hughes and i really wouldn´t be surprised to see him be the next manager to lose his job in the premier league they have to get through tonight. they've got Chelsea at the weekend. guess Hughes has got those two matches. Although Megson is pretty close to the boot we hear. |
Damian
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... this could be interesting blackburn and man city both winning we´d beat both those two over two legs |
Damian
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... looks like man city are in the semis - two quality goals from two quality players - no team work in either of them, just individual displays of why they are so dangerous |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Let's hope Chelsea get Man Utd We really are good enough to knock City out, then anything can happen in the final. |
Steve Badger
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... 2-0 Citeh. But Arse have the most possession though, so the score must be wrong. (Sarcasm mode off) |
villarobin
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... damian , great that you think we could beat Blackburn over 2 legs !!! Its the cup, we could beat anyone over 2 legs.. You seem to forget weve already beaten Chelsea and Liverpool. To be honest I think Man City would dangerous because they would be really going for it. |
Damian
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... i think chelsea is the one team you dont want aren´t they. united are playing the kids and man city are not, despite the money, that good yet chelsea on the other hand - well, ancelotti could be going for everything this season |
Andy Scarborough
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... Damian, add to that the fact that we have already beaten Chelsea. Things are looking good. Delph, this whole thing is a mystery to me, MoN played and persevered with Ash when he got here, albeit a little older than Delph. Why not do the same with Fabian? There is more to this than meets the eye methinks. MoN; I am happy with MoN. A couple of weeks ago the "negatives" here and elsewhere got to me a bit and I became a little neggy. Recent results have calmed me down a bit. I would say that we ought to be grateful that we have him. If the job becomes beyond him he will be the one to say so and walk. Somehow I don't think that will be necessary. Charlotte Rampling; he he he. Didn't she marry Jean Michelle Jarre? |
Damian
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... andy5759 a quick scan of the net and apparently she did .. for 10 years Pancho i´d love it if blackburn could beat chelsea. blackburn or man city in the semi finals would be great. last time we played united in the league cup final, we beat them and i think we could do it again |
villarobin
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... Regarding Delph If you recall he has already been tried at the start of the season. Oneil probably thought I'll give him ago , and then realised it was abit too soon, and he needs abit more bedding in. It is a risk though , he might be cack at Prem level. But like someone points out above its one of the only ways we can find the absolute gems at the moment as we dont have champs league and we wont pay top wages. |
Ammar
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...My problem is that MoN pays the money for Delph and never gives him a chance. I actually feel sorry for Delph because despite the image of MoN in the press - he has an appalling record of bringing youth through. He hasn't brought one player through the academy since he arrived. The only relatiovely young players that get a game are ones that have proved themselves elsewhere. Mon's lack of belief in squad rotation (whats going to happen in february again..) and lack of belief in dropping players who constantly dont produce is stifling the life out of these youngsters Yes and carling cup against a crippled prothsmouth side who were basically shite and would have been turned over by most in the premiership. Still no faith in bringing on the youngsters. Very concerned about this. So now that were in the Semis we can discount them for the carling cup. We've got Blackburn in the first round of the FA Cup so cannot see mon playing them there either. So when are they expected to play ? 2-0 Citeh. Yes Badger you make this point but i can give you many examples on teams that have posession and win in the beautiful game. Arsenal will win more times than they draw or loose by the way and have qualified into the next round Champions league. I guess don't give a monkeys about the worthless cup. They have bigger fish to fry with there passing style... |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Delph Schmelph - we're on our way to Wembley - get excited ! |
villarobin
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... Man city 3 looks like they are through and fackin chels as well |
Andy Scarborough
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... Has anyone seen the silly rumour that we are interested in Marton Fulop? Who gets paid for this stuff? Any vacancies? (Apart from between their ears). As for all the speculation who we are going to beat in the semis; don't you know we are Aston Villa - destined to always play ManU? |
Damian
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... the game isn´t over yet but this is what it says about that weiss kid on his wiki page: He scored his first Man City goal on December 2 in the Carling Cup against Arsenal - a match Man City won 3-0. |
Dave
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... Lots of optimism on here tonight,is it thoughts of Charlotte |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Who is Marton Fulop ? Sounds like a make of tyre. Good to see the Hare score a couple the other day |
Chris Platt
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... Chelsea down to 10 for the moment, Injury. I'll take Blackburn in the semis. City take care of UTD, and then as someone wrote yesterday Fatty Barry can sit his ass on the Wembley turf as his former team-mates lift the Cup |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Blackburn want this - semis draw soon |
Steve Badger
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...Yes Badger you make this point but i can give you many examples on teams that have posession and win in the beautiful game. So could I, but those teams also tend to have the better players. End of the day it's players and what you do with the possession that counts. I don't need to mention Albion and their beautiful game, I'm sure. Oh, I see the final score was 3-0 I'm just playing and do know what you mean though |
Steve Badger
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... Villa - Blackburn/chelsea away first. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Villa - Blackburn/chelsea away first. Come on Blackburn ! |
VillaDude
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... Im happy with that draw - Chelsea should have some missing players due to African Nations and we should beat Blackburn over 2 legs.... |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... is that us away first Badger Penalty woop woop |
Chris Platt
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... Read my comment 75 above. It's written in the Stars guys ![]() ![]() |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Read my comment 75 above. It's written in the Stars guys Will Fergy really play his kids in the semi though ? It smells like Wembley in here. Sure does dude |
Chris Platt
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... Pancho It's a Derby game, anyone can win no matter who plays on the night-or two in this instance |
Steve Badger
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... So Blackburn win on pens and we have the easiest draw again. It just might be our year |
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