Written by Damian Thursday, 07 January 2010 09:19
I'm shooting myself in the foot, as this is from the Daily Star, who also reported on December 31st that an asteroid was 'on course to blast earth' but in the same article say that 'Nasa said the chance of the asteroid hitting us in 2029 is virtually non- existent', so I accept this could be all made up, but it is in the paper today.
What they are actually saying is below, but we've also started a poll to the right and all you have to do is pretend you are the manager.
Daily Star
Spurs will approach Villa and make it clear they are prepared to let Keane join them as part of a deal to net Carew. Martin O’Neill will be told he can have Keane if he stumps up £5m plus Carew as Tottenham cut their losses on the Irish striker they signed for £12m from Liverpool a year ago.
Now, I like John Carew because he likes us, but I'm also a huge fan of the Robbie Keane type player and given the choice, while I'd be happy with Robbie Keane, he wouldn't actually be the player I'd go for, simply because of his age. He will be 30 by the time next season starts and while I am sure he will offer something, in fact I am convinced he will, it is hardly planning for the future.
On the other hand, it could be the fist step, in so much, we get Keane and see the importance of that type of player and if he is the best chance of a player in January that plays that role, then we have to go for it. I also think he would be a quality addition to the fist team that would add another dimension, almost immediately.
So, in a perfect world, I'd pick a younger Robbie Keane, but for today, if that offer from Spurs is really on the table and they really want John Carew - a straight swap for me would be ideal. It wouldn't be nice to see Carew go and no doubt if he comes back to Villa Park in white, the Holte End will sing his name but Keane, for me, offers something we are missing and I think it is clear that given the choice, O'Neill will start with Heskey over Carew every day.
But, that is just my view. What is yours? It will be interesting to see how the quick question goes and I actually expect this to be a bit like yesterday and the Gaz Baz scenario. It turns out that people are split on him playing for Villa again, if that ever became an option.
For now, I must look at doing something good today. I just have a feeling, we don't have long left, so none of this might even matter.
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David Smith
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... I think this is just paper talk. Why would Spurs want to get rid of Keane and why would Villa want to get rid of Carew, let alone pay 5mil for the privilege? Not a good deal. |
Tim Mason
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... Bentley was mentioned in this same article. I am concerned about the activities of Carew's agent in all this,so much for loyalty. |
Alex
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... First? Damian, agree with a lot of what you say. However I believe Carew does have something our other strikers have - an ability to finish. I love Gabby and I'm even coming to like Heskey but they can't finish like Carew. It would be a mistake to lose our Talisman.....As MON once said about a xmas party - Big John will lead and the others will follow..I'm sure he will lead them a merry dance - Carew's a legend on and off the pitch |
Alex
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... Carew must stay - as MON once said about the xmas party- "where big John goes the others will follow..he will lead them a merry dance" - hes a talisman on and off the pitch. Also he can finish better than any of our other strikers |
Tommy
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... It's EXTREMELY unlikely. For one thing, player swap deals are always made up in the press but rarely come to pass. For another, Spurs, City, Villa and Liverpool won't want to do deals with each other and take the risk of helping a rival at a crucial stage in the season. Despite Keane's poor form while starting 14 of the 20 games so far, Spurs have been among the highest scoring teams in the league with the highest scoring strike force, and Redknapp won't want to risk destablizing the ship further with Pavlyuchenko already almost certain to leave. Even if he did like Carew more than Keane, a team sitting in fourth is unlikely to be changing its squad (unless perhaps a huge improvement is offered), which Redknapp has already said multiple times. Spurs ITK are also saying that Keane is staying until the summer at least before reviewing his options. And come on, I fail to remember a single deal the Daily Star has actually ever gotten correct. Slow news day, so speculate all you like, but it does seem particularly useless. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Carew will be no loss at all. Yes he is a cult hero but the guy really doesn't give a toss really when it comes down to it otherwise he would be putting 100% into every game. Not sure Keane is worth that ammount to be honest as what would we value carew at? Probably £5m at least so is Keane at 30 worth £10m? I don't think he is. Still though it would be a good upgrade on the type of striker we have at the club. He has intelligence and skill which is something we lack right now up top. Keabe would score 40 goals a season up in Scotland.  |
stuper
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... The paper got it wrong. Villa will swap keane with carew, but spurs will give us 5mil :-) |
Chris Harper
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... Personally, I would be really sad to see Carew go, he's a legend!! The problem is, I've always rated Keane and I think we need that kind of player as you say Damian. He's a clever player who can drop deep and create, as well as score goals. Can we just buy Keane and keep Carew as a mascot? Please Martin? |
neil bangor
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... Does Carew make money out of all these transfers,never mind Keane? The two of them must be laughing all the way to the bank  Damian,are we stable? Will Gaz Baz or Keane affect that? I take Gaz Baz every time. Keep big John. Tell you what,it is fun,all this speculation. How's work today,JPA? Where is Churchill? Probably sunning himself with Keef in Capetown Now that is one beautiful city. Watch the cricket,it makes you jealous No mention of Pavlyuchenko? Harry,the little short arsed git, does seem to like tall strikers MON wanted Bentley two seasons ago when he was looking to displace Becks from the England set-up. Dunno about that one. Have we given up on Boyd and Beckford? TTFN |
Andi
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... Carew is a fans favourite I would be sad to see him go but he is hardly prolific infront of goal. I think this has legs in it as well as Keane wants out Celtic cant afford him, Spuds have to sell before buying and we all know CAREW has itchy feet and just think of the strip clubs for him in LONDON !!! |
John Samuels
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... I've been saying that Carew needs to go soon. He was great for us at a certain point in our development and I know he is very popular with many fans, but I think it's time to let him go. That said, there is absolutely no way we should let melted welly face have him and I have serious doubts over Keane also, especially if they are going to want cash too. How they can say that he's worth £5m more than Carew when Keane has done precisely the square root of nothing this season is beyond me. Surely Keane, at 30, isn't worth any more than about £6-£7m? I'd value Carew at £5m so would possibly consider a swap deal, but I still don't like the idea of him going to Spuds. I would much rather let him go somewhere else (Turkey) and sign Keane for cash only. I'd also sign Kenwyne JOnes, but everyone already knows that. |
Andi
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...so much for loyalty Was we not debating about BARRY coming back on the other thread ??? BARRY = JUDAS, made your bed now lie in it !!!! |
Tim Mason
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... Villa-Chris If he is such a legend why does he not come out and say he wants to stay at Villa? |
VillaNick
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... John carew is very very popular at Villa as we know, but more for his swagger and attitude than his ability. He is generally lazy and will dip out of games he doesn't fancy, given half the chance. But saying all that, the thought of him leaving is quite devastating. As for Keane, we should have bought him 9 years ago when we had the chance, remember, when Doug wouldn't stump up the cash. |
heskeyshead
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... the trouble is we have played well this year so far, yet we still find ourselves behind Man City and Spurs. These teams are also looking to strengthen and improve in january. To stay with them we either need to perform better, add more options to our football or do both. i see Keane as adding more options. He could be played with Heskey as well, something Carew doesn't do well. Its all speculation anyway. |
theyeahyeah
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... It depends really. Carew's contract expires in the summer. There was talk that he might want to leave Villa a few weeks back. If that's true, then this might not be such a bad deal. Better than him leaving in the summer and getting nothing. If he doesn't sign a contract this January, then why not. Only problem is that means we'll be lumped with Heskey, because if Carew goes, there's no way O'Niell would let Heskey go. There's also mention that we're interested in Gareth Bale aswell, as Shorey looks like he's leaving this january. So i wouldn't be surprised if this story was true. |
Andi
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...Can we just buy Keane and keep Carew as a mascot? If we do that SALIFOU stays for ever !!! |
VillaNick
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...Personally, I would be really sad to see Carew go, he's a legend!! Paul McGrath was a legend, never shirked a game, always gave 100%. Everything Carew isn't, but like I say Big John is almost like a lovable rogue. He is fast becoming a bit like a mascot. |
Chris Harper
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...Villa-Chris He has done every time he's been linked with a move away. e.g.Man City in the summer. |
Andi
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... The only thing that would get me a little with him leaving is that he would go SPUDS, I think his status at VILLA would soon nose dive once he was in the WHITES of the SPUDS |
Andi
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...Villa-Chris WHO SALIFOU ?  |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... I think the fact that Spurs bought Crouch in the summer just makes this link look like the pile of rubbish it really is. Also Bale wouldn't want to leave one club where he doesn't start to go to another club where he can't get a game. Warnock is a better defender. |
Chris Harper
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...Paul McGrath was a legend, never shirked a game, always gave 100%. People seem to be taking my words too seriously...I know he's not ACTUALLY a legend, its just a phrase! |
Andi
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...People seem to be taking my words too seriously...I know he's not ACTUALLY a legend SALIFOU ? |
Steve Hadley
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... It's just a pitty that Spuds don't want Heskey and give us Keane + £5m...oh, sorry...I've just woken up! |
heskeyshead
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... why is everyone talking S*it about heskey? we play better football when he plays. |
neil bangor
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... Damian,is that right,is Carew at the end of his contract? If so,he is worth not much more than Boyd. Get rid,now. Heskey works far harder. BTW,some twit suggested Gabby was lazy. Get real,he runs his socks off. He scares the shit out of defenders. Wenger would have him in a flash. Imagine him with that passing midfield. |
Chris Harper
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... I agree, Heskey suits our current set-up and has deserved his starts recently. I just don't want Carew to go! BTW,some twit suggested Gabby was lazy. Get real,he runs his socks off. He scares the shit out of defenders. Wenger would have him in a flash. Imagine him with that passing midfield. I know, it really gets my goat when people say that, they obviously don't watch him play very often. Granted, it caused us to conceed a goal, but who put the tackle in on Beniyoun (spelling) when Torres scored?! |
Vijay Daryanani
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... I dont want Carew to go but if we get Keane AND Bentley then i wouldnt mind! |
Steve Hadley
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... heskeyhead...i must appologise, I thought we were aloud to have an opinion and in mine, Heskey is crap...simple as! Obviously your opinion is different but I didn't call your sh*t! I appreciate that Heskey works hard, but then again, so do I! The difference being, I don't get paid £60K+ per week to score goals, Heskey does and he doesn't do that side of his job...end of! |
VillaNick
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... I think David Bentley could be a masterstroke signing as MON could get the best out of him for sure. He is technically much better than Barry and miles better than NRC and Sidders. For me him an another striker to replace Carew or Heskey if they leave would give us a great shot of 5th place. |
heskeyshead
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... Man City - Vieira deal is pretty much done. this means surely one of Barry, Ireland, De Jong is gone. |
ronskivilla
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... isnt there some rule that a player cant play for 3 different premiership clubs in a year or is it a season if this is right then the keane carew thing is surely just media hype |
VillaNick
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...Man City - Vieira deal is pretty much done. this means surely one of Barry, Ireland, De Jong is gone. It's gonna be Barry on loan to Liverpool. |
neil bangor
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... I agree, Bentley would add another dimension. MON has all the players bar JC working much harder. He's given up on big John We,as prev stated,need to sell the poo and bring in better guys, who will actually be able to take part in proper squad rotation. Gaz will fill 4 places in one scoop. Think of the sub options it gives. Damian,any news on Bouma? I personally think he will never be the same again. We are living in cloud cuckoo land if we think different. Back to UTV as David looks a no no |
Damian
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... neil bangor no news on bouma - feel sorry for the man but this is just me guessing the outlook isn't great - in terms of his football. outlook for the rest of his life is golf, holidays in the south of france and not that he needs to but probably a tv pundit or coach in his native holland |
Chris Harper
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... Damian you should be his manager!  I hope he recovers. Its only his toe anyway! |
John Samuels
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... Everyone is talking about hav ing Barry back, but I say go for Ireland. I'm getting a bit greedy this window, get them all in!! IN: Bentley, Jones, Keane, Boyd, Ireland OUT: Shorey, Carew, Harewood, Salifou, Osbourne, Gardner The squad would be a player lighter, but infinitely stronger imo. Jones for Carew, Boyd for Harewood, Ireland for Gardner, Bentley for Osbourne, Keane for Salifou and Shorey can just do one. Seriously though, there has to be a tiny bit of truth in one of these rumours????? hasn't there? |
Nigel
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... Yes swop them today. I like Carew, but he is limited (not mobile enough)whereas Keane would give us another dimension. |
Chris Harper
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... I would have Ireland in a blink of an eye. Hope he's not a favourite of the new manager!! |
Andi
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...OUT: Shorey, Carew, Harewood, Salifou, Osbourne, Gardner How dare you SALIFOU is not going anywhere ZINDANE i will have you know |
Adrian Kilgallon
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Quality player(tosser of a human being though) and exactly what we lack right now. I doubt a new manager with the funds they have at City would get rid of him without at least seeing what he can do so id be shocked if they sold him this Jan. Next summer he could available when City look for better. I think they(the owners and manager) will look and say id prefer a Brazilian/Italian/Spanish playmaker over an Irish one even though i thought Ireland was the best attacking CM in the league last season. His has a great engine and vision and his ability to weight a pass for on running players is second to none. |
John Samuels
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... Sorry Chiefy, you do like the big dark ones don't you. Just for you we should sign: Sidibe, Faye, Dindane, Piquionne, Benjani etc. |
John Samuels
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... ak, if we had Ireland I don't think we'd need a new type of striker. Gabby would get loads with that guy threading him through. |
oldfart
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... Harping back to some of my previous comments,in order to buy anyone we need to raise cash,unless we take out a short term [month] loan,but then other clubs know we have to sell and so they gazzunder us. It is not that easy forMON |
neil bangor
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... JPA, my total agreement Ireland is a nob,like Bellamy,but what players they are. I take it Gaz Baz or Ireland, yes? One salivates at the thought and Villa in the summer |
Andi
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...Sorry Chiefy, you do like the big dark ones don't you. Just for you we should sign: JPA for manager Sorry Chiefy, you do like the big dark ones don't you I like the ones with flare and skill just like our very own SALIFOU who was the person who said he was like ZIDANE ?? |
Michael Statham
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... MON doesnt want bentley though now!! he WAS going to get bentley...but we got downing instead! it is just make believe and carew said he is happy here...remember when he rejected a move to man city well the spuds arent any better now are they? UTV  |
neil bangor
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... You are right. Forget Keane,get Ireland and Gaz. Ireland is Citeh's best mid. Dunne may put MON off,AK or the not heard of in a while,Eoin,may know. We miss dear old Vijay and his insider knowledge Has he fallen out or changed his allegiance? Maybe his mole has been sacked |
Tim Mason
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... A big question to ask is do we play better as a team when Heskey plays as opposed to Carew??? If Carew goes,surely Heskey would stay.Damian is absolutely correct that Carew has 18 months left.Is he and his agent angling to raise his salary from £50000 per week??? |
whitey09
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... i cant wait 4 this transfer window 2 b over,and thats only cos we'll all get 2 see salifou sumwhere in the papers or on the telly being loaned out,i really av forgotten wat our zidane(chiefy )looks like,and noticed i sed loaned not sold,we wud b seriously crazy if we sold him,imagine the uproar.anyway id take k.jones & keane personally, but i feel if we let carew go then were taking a big risk not just cos the fans love him but also the yunger players love him 2 ie ash gab jimmy,as mon has sed where big john goes the rest will follow lets just hope its not out the door wiv him if he goes utv |
Andi
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... lets get Keane in !!! he will give us something different we have two lumps that dont do much when we only need one, at least keane will offer us some running around and stuff |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA i still believe you need both. You need one in the midfield and one up top who is also talented and on the same wave length. That way the combination would be smoother and you could have Gabby playing on the on off side line breaking in on the through balls from both creative players. Thats what Arsenal have with Fabregas and Van Persie. They combine brialliantly together and it will be Van persie's injury that i think will cost them the title this season. |
heskeyshead
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... no chance about this keane link. tomorrow will be a new day and new speculation. |
whitey09
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... chiefy dont b so harsh on carew,he's not a lump in the same mold as heskey,big johns a hard lump heskey is like a snowball every time he hits sumat he crumbles .albeit i do agree that heskey has been playing the better of the 2 yet who has scored the most goals this season,even the fonz has nearly caught up with the snowball and weve bearly seen him this season! |
whitey09
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... ak unfortunatley we dont have the same mentality as arsenal wen it comes 2 playing football although we can all hope,imagine arshavin & fabregas in our starting 11 |
Andi
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... Whitey09 -- to be honest I cant see CAREW going but I think KEANE would do well and is the type of player we are missing someone to link it all up, If i had to pick EMULE would go and CAREW would stay but if MON has the choice I am sure we all know CAREW will go. Now if SPUDS are offering KEANE I am sure MON will take the bait he is a fan of KEANE and tried to sing him last season. BIG JOHNS status at VILLA PARK will nose dive quickly if he does go SPUDS although he will get to see some fantastic TITS in LONDON |
Tim Mason
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... Off Topic Down here in Kent we are in the middle of a long,long blizzard.Are we heading towards a mid season break??How would this effect the top 6 interms of fixture pile up??? |
neil bangor
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... AK,Arsenal have midfielders who score for fun. I saw more,live,on 27th,than ever on TV. Ash was poor,yet,he was still a threat. Aston Villa is getting better in a nice way and is well respected by most other fans. It's nice not to have other fans rubbishing us on this site. |
whitey09
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... chiefy i totally agree with u 2 b honest (god av i just sed that),but i dont think big john's rep wud plummit as u say well no where near as a certain other former villa star. ur rite bout the tits ive seen a few by the name of welly face,modric,king,defoe |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... neil bangor not sure what Dunne makes of Ireland. He couldn't get him to return and play for his country thats for sure anyway. Thats basically where im coming from him being a tosser. I can't understand guys(especially Irish guys from a small nation) not wanting to play for their country more then anything. Dunne is however very close to Keane. They are both from the same part of Dublin. |
whitey09
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... neil yeah it is nice 2 hear other teams making comment of gud nature 2wards us but u mite find that they do that bout any team challenging the top 4 just in the hope of sum1 will break the monopoly and then wen/if they make it that will soon change imo |
keith
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... keane/carew is bull the only difference is jc is he is the loner type who does it by himself whereas keane booked the party for everyone |
Gavin Merriman
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... Good deal and i hope it comes off. Dunn would help keep him in check. He is a great finisher and creator. "Keane is a creator, just like Kenny was. He scores goals, but he creates a lot of goals too, and that will be good for Liverpool," Rush explained. |
John Samuels
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..."I'm a big admirer. He gets goals but I think for the Liverpool team, it's his ability with the hold-up play that is the key because he can bring Torres even more into the game." It's a shame Rafa has only started playing 4-4-2 since Keane left. |
whitey09
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... i reckon we shud sell osbourne 2 the red scouse just 4 a laugh,and then put a cheeky £5m bid 4 gerrard(well he aint playing well rite now) |
Steve Badger
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... Trickey one this. I think Keane would be good for us, at least a different option. Trouble is, I wouldn't like to see Carew go, although he hasn't been his best of late. Shame it wasn't Heskey being mentioned, as I'd go for that deal no problem. We might look a better team when Heskey plays, but do we look more of a goal-scoring threat? No way, imo. Then again, it's coming from the Star, which I wouldn't use to wipe my........ |
neil bangor
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... Yes,AK,agree with you. Dunne,for me,is class. I think he has been better for us than Laursen because of his fitness, He knows these guys. As a fellow irishman,albeit from the north,it beggars belief what Ireland thinks.It's a great pity the irish were pipped for SA,it would have been interesting. Re: the other fans,I dont think City or Spurs are as popular. I don't dislike either much. The magpie fans last year were a laugh. They think they deserve something which appears unattainable. Megan springs to mind All the best |
thebizzle
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... lads does anyone know if the 1st leg get postponed again at blackburn, will we have to play the 1st leg at home being a week after? |
Bird
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... I couldn't disagree more with this article. Swapping John Carew in my eyes would be a backwards step for the club. If, and that is a big if, we are to make that leap into the CL we need to add world class strength on top of the players we have currently not swap them for other players in the league who aren't performing consistantly. If anything we should be lining up moves for the likes of Ruud Van Nistelrooy et al that although dont have age on their side but will provide that world class experience that is so badly needed. The likes of Ashley Young, Gabby etc could then learn from these guys and hopefully cement themselves in Capello's team for next year!! Come on Martyn & Randy lets make it happen!!!!!!! |
chipper
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... is randy looking to sell up? It's a rumour doing the rounds he is talking to oracle founder and multi-billionaire larry ellison http://twitter.com/bakerneil/status/7450787468 |
Andi
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... nothing on google search about ellison buying villa just a rumour with no substance being touted around twitter and blogs alike |
Andi
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... It has been confirmed on another blog that randy is not selling and this person has been in contact with the club, another stupid rumour i hate January. Ellison has just brought a tennis event and stadium, he has a yatching team and also the orcale bmw motorsport team. Someone has obviously added 1+1 and come up with 15 |
Damian
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... i've tracked down where it started and while it is pure speculation, it would be nice ... but, cant see it happening, although remember this: http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/...ton-villa/ |
heskeyshead
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... RVN is 33/34 and hasnt hardly played and has just returned back from a bad injury! he would require massive wages. that is just stupidity to even suggest it. |
Damian
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... bfastvilla its hard to say. to some extent it depends on how much someone is willing to pay but what you are asking for is 'book value' and well, that depends and you'll get different answers from different people although something i read recently i sort of agreed with and they came up with the figure of £100mn |
Mark
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... I would never swap Keane for Carew unless they stumped up £10 mil on top. Keane's days are over. Spurs want rid cos he's not up to scratch. Cheeky f**kers trying to offload him to us. Keep Carew til end of the season and watch him nod in a couple against Spuds later in the season. Heskey is brilliant and not on £60,000 p/week. |
John Samuels
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... I would much rather have Heskey than Carew. I'm pretty certain that if we ended up losing Carews MODEST goal tally even without bringing anyone else in, Delfouneso could get as many, if not more with a run in the side. I wouldn't want to put too much pressure on the lad just yet however, and I figure O'Neill feels the same. So, I'd ideally like someone else, but I don't think goals is what we need to worry about. Gabby will score a hatful with the right service so we need to create more chances in open play and Carew's work rate is not going to be a miss. Heskey however has shown in recent games that he is willing to get as fit as he ever has been and work his oscks off to get in and stay in this side. His efforts should be rewarded and he provides us with an option when playing the way we do. A clever player like Keane might help us with a different way of playing and there are players out there like Jones at Sunderland who could be a more than adequate replacement for Carew by being quicker, just as strong, much younger with room to improve, less prone to injury, and could feature for years to come. The only thing about this rumour I don't like is seeing Carew in a Spurs shirt, but I also can't wait to see what the fans think of his off pitch antics, modest goal tally, lack of work rate and persitent back injury. Still, it's probably all rubbish anyway. For some reason the only rumour that rings mildly true is the BOyd one. That has 'O'Neill january transfer punt' written all over it. It's highly unlikely anyone will leave and £1.5m on a bit of a risk from a league he knows well has some legs. |
yooooo
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... i'll be over the moon if this deal happnened! When Carew plays its like hitting a brick wall when you pass it to him and keane is the exactly what we need up front. We've been crying out for a striker that has an unquestionable work rate and who can create things them selves, something that carew and gabby have not got! Carew please go, your cameo role has got boring! bye bye big man! (waves) |
yooooo
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... carew is also 30 so stop going on about there age! Keane is better than carew! Hands down! |
Keith
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... I think this is all paper talk rubbish. Not going to happen, more chance of finding a cup in the BCFC trophy cabinet without the word 'ATARI' written on it! |
tubbydunne
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... I don't care if Carew goes but I certainly don't want Keane. He might be a link up player and have an eye for goal but he is not the link up player we need. Why? His first touch can be very poor, he spends most of the game on his arse(we get enough of this with Ash and Heskey)and a lot of the time he takes the wrong option. I think he wouldn't be suited to our way of playing and would be very frustrating to watch and would quickly become hated by supporters. Plus his age profile is wrong, he couldn't cut it at Liverpool now he can't cut it with Spurs so why the Fu**k should we give him a go. Let a bottom half side or Celtic have him. I would hate to see the great melted twitch having a laugh at us. As for Carew he can go, he is only a luxury for us at the moment. There is no doubting his talent and goal threat but he is one lazy Basta**d. He barely wants to train and it suits him now to come off the bench and milk the adulation from the Holte and then have to only play for ten minutes, he loves it. Get rid and forget this cult hero stuff it's only nostalgic bullsh*t. |
Steve Badger
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...I'm pretty certain that if we ended up losing Carews MODEST goal tally As opposed to Heskeys? Games goals assists; EH 16, 2, 1 JC 17, 4, 2 I could understand if Heskey created goals, but he doesn't. And we've all said Carew has been poor of late, whereas Heskey has been playing well! I really don't understand it. |
bfastvilla
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... did lerner buy the club outright with his own funding or did he need financial assistance which the club pays back for him. i know from my cousin he gets a lot of abuse in america over villa but i cant see him wanting to sell up in the current climate. How much did he pay for the club, i think it was 50-60m. If the current value is 100m then it has been a good investment for him, however the club is in the unfamiliar position of challenging for a top 4 spot. Surely if we achieve top 4 then the value of the club will once again soar. So I believe if he is serious about villa (which i do) he would not sell up because the potential is far greater than the current. But hey i might be very wrong(usually am) |
Keith
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... Badger I'm with you on that one. We don't want Carew because of his "modest goal tally" but we should keep Emile the goal machine? Sorry JPA but the snow has given you brain freeze! Neil, thanks for the welcome back message but please note British Rail has not existed since 1997. |
Chris Harper
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...Neil, thanks for the welcome back message but please note British Rail has not existed since 1997. Ha ha classic! |
Steve Badger
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...he couldn't cut it at Liverpool That's because FSW never wanted him and Keane was brought in over his head. Now look at his goalscoring record at Pool. He got 5 in 19, mostly being used as a sub and being royally pissed off. We can talk about his crap first touch and making wrong decisions, but the simple fact is he can score. And that's what we need, imo. I think he'd score more and assist more than either Heskey or Carew. I still tend to think the whole story is rubbish anyway. |
Mike Carter
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... I agree with Badger. Keane is a player who'd work his arse off and potentially do the roles of Carew and Heskey combined, only much better. |
neil bangor
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... Keef,you forget,I live in n ireland. We just have gov funded Translink,here. Who employs you? Suddenly,many want rid of the energetic John Carew. He was decent to that fan,giving him the shirt. He was a steal in swap for Baros,who was close to Balaban status We seriously do not want to be doing any dodgy business with 'arry.Let him keep Robbie unless Dunne thinks it's a good idea. If MON reads this blog,he must be laughing his socks off at all the speculation. He's probably never heard of David Villa as he's not from the british isles Off for lunch. TTFN |
John Samuels
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...I could understand if Heskey created goals, but he doesn't. We don't want Carew because of his "modest goal tally" but we should keep Emile the goal machine? Heskey runs about and tries to recieve the ball and pull defenders out of position. Carew does none of this. The ball doesn't stick to Carew half as well as it does Heskey and Heskey's industry often creates the odd chance for our overlapping wingers. I would quite happily let him go and keep Heskey. I'm sure Fonz can get Carew's goal every four games or so. Heskey is a better trainer, harder worker, better professional and better for the club on and off the pitch. I'm not going to get drawn into this Heskey goal record argument again because it's been done, granted Carew will get more goals, but so will Gabby with Heskey in the side. We could buy any number of strikers that could do a better job than Carew and work harder for the team. I like the guy, but it won't be a great loss if he goes. |
bfastvilla
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... JPA i agree 100% Alot of us underrate heskey. (Apart from MON, Cappello and FSW) |
bfastvilla
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... neil bangor, i thought it was bangor wales. I live in n'ards who would of thought two villa fans in down |
neil bangor
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... And I thought you were in belfast I received so many texts about Iris last night,I had to look up news to see what it was all about Are you in villa supporters club in Carrick? I told chum who supports Liverpool about it. He asked if we met in kiosk beside castle? |
Steve Badger
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...Heskey runs about and tries to recieve the ball and pull defenders out of position. and that's about it. We need more. I'd suggest Keane has good movement, knows how to run off the last defender (something Gabby could learn from)and scores goals. I know you're mainly comparing Heskey and Carew, but I'm saying Keane is better than both. Heskey does nothing for me and if he's on the pitch I never expect him to score whereas I always feel Carew has a chance of scoring. Now if you're saying he's a midfielder who can pull the defence about, fair enough, I'd accept that. And if you're saying that he deserves a place, fair enough too. So who are we going to drop so we can play another striker alongside Gabby? Because imo, we need one. |
Christian
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... I think the Keane/Carew rumour is total nonsense, but if it were to be true, I don't know what I'd do. The vote looks split at the moment too- about 40% yes/40% no. Keane for Carew? Yes. With the extra £5m? Hmmm, not sure about that. I really rate Keane, but Carew has such influence at Villa it could be very diffcult to replace him both on and off the pitch. Can't believe some people knocking Keane's first touch!! Have you seen Gabby play??!! If the hypothetical offer that Damian has suggested were to be posed to me... I'd say DEAL. |
Mark
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... JPA Agree too. I have always stuck up for Heskey. I don't want any cast offs from Spuds, least of all Keane who is a little spoilt c**t. I'd rather give young Andreas Weimann a go. |
Tim Mason
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... In my professional life I have managed teams of 100 people plus.When a manager makes a decision very often the rest of the workforce and supporters of the organisation are not aware of all the fact.s surrounding a decision The source/reason for Carew's alleged back injury are only known to a few,including MON.The effect on the dressing room by Carew and Heskey imo is probably very different.What I am trying to say is that we must trust MON to make the best decisions taking all the circumstances into account no matter how popular Carew is with the teenage fans |
tubbydunne
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... I just have a feeling Keane wouldn't work at Villa. Look at the amount of clubs he has been with, Wolves, Coventry, Inter Milan, Leeds, Spurs, Liverpool and Spurs again why has he moved around so much I know at the start he showed such promise that bigger clubs came in for him but when he hit his prime clubs still offloaded him and at this stage of his career his graph is on the way down, melted face is just trying to cash in before he becomes worthless. I think Keane would be all wrong would much prefer K Jones in to replace J.C. and a chance taken on Boyd for that natural finisher. |
bfastvilla
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... From belfast originally. Found that supporters club online, yeah they meet up down in some pub in carrick but i have never been, have you? Yeah she is in a liitle bit of strife at the minute at least peter shouldnt have to worry about her saying something stupid to the press again. |
John Samuels
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... I'd swap Keane and Bentley for Carew, I'd sell Harewood to Hull or West Ham and I'd sign Boyd too. Keane, Heskey, Boyd and Gabby with Fonz pushing all four for a starting place. If Boyd or Keane don't work out we can sell whoever in the summer. Bentley would provide wing and midfield cover, an long term injury to Milner, Downing or Ash and we start to look light again. |
baz
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... can we go along with the deal then just send them emile heskey instead and hope they dont notice? |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... I think Keane would be an improvement but i just don't see any sense in this link from the Spurs side of it. Why would Redknapp want both Carew when he already has Crouch? |
Paul Theiss
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... With Downing and Young putting balls into the box, I would have much more confidence in Carew scoring late in the game than I would in Keane. Frankly, I would much rather take a cheap punt on Boyd than I would take an expensive punt on Keane. |
bfastvilla
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... its never gonna happen. It's not that i mind carew leaving too much but i just wouldnt want to see him playing for spuds. Take a gamble on boyd! |
Chris Harper
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... heskeyshead Don't listen to him....he lies through his teeth,ask the tax man! |
Chris Harper
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...I still think we need to trade Carew in for a younger model Megan Fox? She could also be a good mascot! |
Steve Badger
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...I still think we need to trade Carew in for a younger model. I think we need to trade Carew and Heskey in for younger models |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Megan Fox? She could also be a good mascot! I know which fox in the box i would prefer between Megan and Boyd and its not the Scot. Megan Fox would probably score 10 goals a season up there. |
Chris Harper
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... Off another site. Found it quite funny.... I'm spurs fan, go every week, read this and laughed. i'd pay you the £5m just to take Keane & Pav, as long a there was something n the contract that said you had to play them! |
darrenvilla26
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... i'd take megan fox on a long term contract...she's great upfront...can handle a big tackle, loves to get on the end of balls drilled in hard into the box, and is great with her head!!! woopp woooooooooooopp |
Steve Badger
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...Off another site. Yes, I must admit the Yids have really turned on him. Strange when you consider he was a favourite. I'm not sure if it's down to him playing crap or just the fact that he went to pool though. |
Andi
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... Berbatov anyone heard this could be a option !!! SAF fed up with him after giving him enough chances, SAF looking to get rid and re coup something from him dont now how true it is just something i have heard |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...i'd take megan fox on a long term contract...she's great upfront...can handle a big tackle, loves to get on the end of balls drilled in hard into the box, and is great with her head Brilliant But would you play her when the painters are in? |
heskeyshead
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... Berbatov = No Chance. Couldn't afford his wages and couldn't afford the transfer fee. would be at least 25-30 million. |
Geoff
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... Keane is a better choice than Kris Boyd. Carew is likeable but has become a stiff and a squad player with flashes. I mean, he lost his job to heskey. Keane adds fire and energy and a positive attitude, which they desperately need. Tall ya what? Carew, Ashley "diver/whiner/crybaby" Young for Keane, Bentley + cash (like 15M). |
darrenvilla26
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... ak_27.... the painters can watch....if megans around, darren's gettin down!!! |
George Templeton
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... Wouldn't Harry want Carew because you need two big men not one. As for finding a younger version of Carew what about Nikola Zigic (not sure about the name). He's 6-7 and he's been rumoured to come to the Premiership for awhile. |
Darren
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...14.51 Sky Bet are offering 2/5 for John Carew to stay with Aston Villa and 7/4 he leaves (to any other club). Spurs boss Harry Redknapp is reportedly getting ready to offer the services of his club captain Robbie Keane in a swap deal to net Carew. Redknapp, who apparently wants Carew to help his Champions League charge, is also willing to use winger David Bentley as part of a deal to sign the Villa man. Sky Bet's Tim Reynolds said: "Keane has been linked with a move away from Tottenham since falling out with Harry Redknapp after he organised a Christmas trip to Dublin. The Carew-Keane swap may just suit both mangers." Rumour is hotting up, on the skysports transfer clockwatch page now. |
heskeyshead
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... the reason the odds have been slashed is because of all the speculation. That is no surprise. More people read the rumours then put a bet on. Therefore SkyBet are covering their bases by reducing odds. |
heskeyshead
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... if it is true and harry is offering Keane and Bentley as a swap for Carew then i would snap his hand off. that is a big IF however. Keane and Bentley are probably on wages off £50 000/£70 000 a week and i doubt MON would want both players, nor would he want just Keane and to part with 5M. |
Linden - well that was my user name until it said my names already been registered. Weird !!!
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... Carew or Heskey???? John Carew - 30 years old - 7 clubs played for 213 club games played to date - 117 goals = 0.6 goals a game. 82 International appearances - 22 goals = 0.3 goals a game. 87 Aston Villa appearances - 31 goals = 0.4 goals a game Emile Heskey - 31 years old - 5 clubs played for 484 club games played to date - 101 goals = 0.2 goals a game 57 International appearances - 7 goals = 0.1 goals a game 30 Aston Villa appearances - 4 goals = 0.1 goals a game The stats are there to see. If anybody honestly thinks they would rather have Heskey ahead of Carew, then please book yourself in for an assessemnt with your local Mental Health Team. And If O'Neill sells him and keeps Heskey, then i'm afraid he needs to be sectioned too !!!!!! |
Darren
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... In my opinion i think keane is more complete player then carew, people will debate he has lost his form, getting old etc, but form is temporary, class is permanent. I think he would do wonders partnering gabby up top, also he would link well with young/milner/downing pushing forward. I would be sad to see big john leave, but looking at the big picture, i think it would be for the best. Either way its only speculation, nothing concrete at the moment, We have been linked with every tom, dick and barry |
Steve Badger
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... It'd be Keane or Bentley, not both. Blimey, I'd jump at that one and so would MON. |
Steve Badger
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...Liverpooo are selling the naming rights to their ground for upto 250million !!!!!!!! Blimey, that's serious dough. |
Michael Statham
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... george templeton i was gonna say that! zigic is taller than carew at 203cm (dont ask me how i know that...i have a very, very good memory!!!) and can score some great goals with his feet...he's the perfect replacement! i'd swap him right now!!! UTV |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Liverpooo are selling the naming rights to their ground for upto 250million !!!!!!!! Where did you see that? |
Steve Badger
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... How can it be in anyone's interest for Marlene's agent to go trapping off in some detail about a move? http://www.teamtalk.com/footba...10,00.html |
paul mclafferty
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... was does everyone keep going on about keanes age? as carew is nearly a year older than keane and if we get a straight swap then i think it could be good businesss, as our passing would become much more slicker without the usaul punt in the air to the big man. |
Andi
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... ak27 -- its on goal.com their CEO is spouting off about it but i think its the new stadium |
beh
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... Carew for Keane - a reluctant yes, provided spuds give him the keys to SOHO, and this has any legs in it. He could score more than one or two then, with my blessing. Harewood looks a cert to leave, contract up in summer. West ham & Hull sniffing around ( skysports transfer dooby ) His stock is rising, I`d take parker and give them a few quid. Better deal than having barry back imo. |
Andi
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... Now Marlons agent said "He can do a good job for a Premier League team and we hope he will be playing that level come the end of the window." Well obviously not you clown he went to the championship and scored 6 in 15 he came to the villa didnt score many but atleast he tried hard !!!!! NO mr agent he cant do a job in the premier league or he would be playing for us wouldnt he you plank ! |
Michael
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... agreed holteend paul about his age - the blogger is contradicting himself - saying 30 years old is too old and that we need to build for the future one minute, the next minute - we need success now! 2 defeats to liverpool and arsenal isnt good enough, sack MON as we need sucess NOW!!! |
Linden - well that was my user name until it said my names already been registered. Weird !!!
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... wheres my post gone and why wont it let me add messages as my registered name ' Linden' |
Linden - well that was my user name until it said my names already been registered. Weird !!!
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... oh its there above now, about 10-15 posts up - thanks  |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...its on goal.com their CEO is spouting off about it but i think its the new stadium So they would have to uild a new stadium before they can get the money. Good. That won't be happening for a while the way their finances are. |
Andi
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...Harewood looks a cert to leave, contract up in summer. West ham & Now that sounds like a plan !!! |
Andi
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... ak27 -- I have just read on another site that SG and FT are in need of operations, RAFA wont let them have them which means they could miss out on the world cup as they will need the ops come end of season and neither could be fit, this will in turn cause one or even both to look to leave Liverpooo, Has anyone else seen the quote from Rooney that he doesnt fancy raising his kids in ENGLAND could there be truth in the rumour he is off in the summer to spain ???? if he is the MAN UTD is a sinking ship |
Steve Badger
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...why cant we keep carew and buy keane? I think we're all working on the idea that we won't be spending much in this window. But there's nowt wrong with what you're saying. why wont it let me add messages as my registered name ' Linden' After a period of inactivity you will get logged off. Double check you're logged in before you post (refresh/reload too). |
Steve Badger
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...SG and FT are in need of operations, I read some scouser somewhere the other day saying what a disgrace this was. I agree with him. Shows how desperate they are though. |
Andi
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... Badger -- the worst think is that rafa will not let them have the ops come the end of season they will go have their ops perhaps miss the world cup and then Liverpoo will sell them for huge amounts and RAFA will go spending loads on average players again !!! point being the only people who lose are the players RAFA and the club wont it is a disgrace !!! that is why everyone hates Liverpool the dirty scouse cheating robbing bin dippers |
Andi
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... Chrisodon - do you mean SALIFOU, there is a SALIFOU appreciation page on facebook would you believe I had to join it |
Chrisodon
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... There is and will only ever be one togolese Zidane. Lol I Never knew he was that big a cult hero. |
VillaNick
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... Just seen that Villa could sign Russian Striker Whojanickabollockov. Good Player. UTV |
frem
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... I would love keane but i also love carew. Carew loves us, he only has a few years left so there will be no point in leaving us. MON just offer 10 mil for keane or swap him Hesk but please keep carew and get Keane. |
Steve Badger
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...so there will be no point in leaving us There's a very big point in him leaving us. MON isn't going to offer him another contract (imo) and Carew picks up a nice signing on fee and a last payday. Although he could let his contract run down and go on a freebie next summer, I suppose. I'm not saying I want him gone though. |
beh
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... Anybody else see citeh imploding ? Sure they`ll have a bounce from a new boss + inherited some top drawer players, so good for a while. But, the prem takes some figuring out so unless, he`s another special one, i can see him making the FSW look like captain sensible. Might be over optimistic but he tried to get Veron, got viera. Any euro - eccentric habits will get magnified in the prem, could be very entertaining. Viera lost his prem mojo 4 years ago, Veron, lost his prem mojo during the last century. Cover or not, that`s like winning the lotto and buying an M.O.T. failure and doing it up. Just buy a `kin car. |
John Samuels
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... Linden, basing your argument purely on goals scored misses the point that Carew is a lazy sh*t most of the time. Fine if he's notching 25 a season, but he isn't he is scoring a couple more than Heskey and doing sod all else. At least Heskey looks like he wants to play and contributes in other areas of the pitch. i.e defence and midfield. Playing with Carew on one of his 'lazy' days is like playing with ten men. This is why Heskey and Gabby are our first choice pairing. |
Proxopera
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... Of Heskey ,Carew & Keane , Carew is the least effective in any kind of formation . Carew + 2 million would probably be a fair deal. Still dont think Keane is our man though, but half a loaf is better than no bread at all . S.Ireland is mentally unstable (and not in a good way) , and Bentley is too lazy for a MON formation. Think barry will go to liverpool . I'd like to see us trying for Lukaku. |
neil bangor
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... Bloody internet went awol at lunch,a blessing say you bloggers. Liverpool has signed Ivanackovnickinemov,thinks he could do well there. I agree,Carew is lazy,Heskey works hard for others,he is very selfless. That is why Roo and Owen like playing with him. He literally does all the donkey work Rooney prob wants to go abroad as there are too many foreigners in Mancaster(spelt correctly ) Berbatov has gone off the boil,he is a friend of Stan's though,might be good. Hey bfast, I hope to go to watch match v Blackburn next week,let me know if you want to go.In Carrick BTW. |
Andy
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... Zigic is hardly a younger version of Carew hes like 11 months younger. And not as an impressive goal scoring record... Plus im sure he's at loan at either racing or athletic bilbao |
Steve Badger
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...Playing with Carew on one of his 'lazy' days is like playing with ten men. This is fair comment. This is why Heskey and Gabby are our first choice pairing. Which says it all, imo. Heskey, playing well is slightly better than Carew, when he's playing poorly. Answer = get rid of at least one and bring in a replacement. And we all know who the one would be. Perhaps there is something in this after all. |
Liam Sanders
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... Don't sell big John, i can't believe people are calling him lazy, thats his style of play, his not mean't to be sprinting everyone, because his role is a target striker, which he holds the ball up and get flick ons, to be honest he does more running than Gabby, Gabby just stands around every match, then he'll make a least 1 sprint in a match, I say Keane and Carew, starting 11, them two could get 30+ goals between them. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Answer = get rid of at least one and bring in a replacement.Boot the both - Get Kenwyn & Keane |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Carew loves us, he only has a few years left so there will be no point in leaving us.One last big payday for the pension. |
Mike F
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... Wouldn't mind Keane but the numbers are ass-backwards. They should be coming in with 5-7 mil. Would love to know the goal totals for Carew v. Keane over the last 12 mos. |
Martin Clabon
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... Bale is a tremendous player, awesome passer and great on the ball. Not the greatest defender but would play well in a 5 man midfield for us |
Steve Badger
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...Boot the both - Get Kenwyn & Keane I could live with that Pancho. trigonad soccer acedemy |
frem
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... If we let carew go we need to get two strikers in. We need more compition upfront. I would swap carew for Keane but then we should get jones or Boyd. Ireland or Barry in aswell would be fantastic. But then you remember that Oneill is in charge and in the windows he is awfall and we probably wont buy anyone. Just imagine- Ireland/Barry- Keane and Jones |
Chrisodon
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... JPA, You say Carew is lazy and it's like having ten men at times. Yet you're dead set on wanting Kris Boyd the laziest f**ker in the SPL. Strikes me as odd tbh. Carew guarentees at least 8 - 10 goals and a few assists plus the fans love him to bits. I'd keep him and send Heskey packing as the guy might be playing well now but it won't last. |
Cian Donaghy
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... wouldnt touch keane with a barge pole. to say he sweats for the cause is laughable. he can score on his day but there is no resale value and he is petulant. cant deal with not starting. i used like him, but if he's even willing to move from spurs tells me he's learned nothing im fed up with carew at this stage. he plays when he feels like it, and i can see the feelings of the holte will change soon enough. he plays the fans like idiots. all hugs and praise, but only puts it in half the time where it matters. so i go for option d - get rid of carew, dont go for keane. the problem is im not sure gabby OR heskey are good enough going forward, certainly not BOTH if them. we need to buy a striker. realistically, one signing is all we can hope for this window. we probably need two stikers (if one leaves) and a play maker - we wouldnt need a winger as milner is freed up if need ed. a good striker i think would be enough to make a real push for top 4. without it i dont see us getting 4th |
woody
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... i'd be quite intrested to see this deal go through. I mean as good as Carew is he's not a striker that seizes the day, he'll never get 3-4 goals in one match i think he's only good for one goal a game where as Keane he can score goal on top of goal. But i want to see spurs pay 5 million on top. Or idealy give us defoe and keep the 5 mil and Keane ;-) |
frem
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... Villa could have an Irish spine : Dunne Ireland Keane I would love that and it would get top four. But Ireland is Injured for two weeks. |
frem
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... I wish MON would say he wants to add in january. On his interview on the villa website he talks about transfers but just says that the speculation is rubish and does not say he is even KEANE to add. Anyway i and you still hope for Ireland and Keane. |
Martin Laursen
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... Vagner Love is on loan to Palmeiras in Brazil as far as i know villabandit. |
Paul down under
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... Let Carew go cut the loses,dont think we'd be losing much there to be honest out of Heskey and Carew Heskey does more running, theyve both had it, what was on MON mind when he bought him (Heskey)anyway,frantic buying need a bit of class someone who can make a goal out of nothing instead of this predictable formation all the time mix it up a bit in my eyes its played to safe sometimes ya gotta take a risk, and sometimes they pay off, lets just wait and see what happens, alls good though. |
Marcus Connolly
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... reminds me of when we chased Marcus Allberg for a few years in his prime (same as Keane before he went to Coventry) Then ended up signing a player past his best some ten years later. I like Robbie as an Irish man, but he aint gona get better with anymore age on his side. |
frem
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... surley Barry and De jong cant be over the moon with city buying Viera. Barry must be thinking ' Well, hes been here three games, ive played defensive mid and the first player Manchini buys is a defensive Midfielder. Even when Viera needs a rest, injured or suspended i still might not play because de jong also plays where i play and he does not like english or me. Im not going to the world cup. Oh Oneill come and buy me Please. Or just get Ireland who also does not seem happy at city. |
frem
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... 'Manchester City captain Richard Dunne says Stephen Ireland is their player of the year'. Tell Oneill to buy him Dunne and tell Ireland how good it is here |
David E
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... As I understand the story, Arry Redknapp would reluctantly let us have Robbie Keane and take John Carew off our hands as a favour, as long as we throw in £5 mill to ease the pain for him. I call that right noble! |
Car Frost
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... A little extract from the Spurs blog.. it is rubbish….why would villa want a loser (Liverpool) like Keane? Made me chuckle.. I get the idea Spurs fans wouldn't be too Keane for it to happen .. http://www.tottenhamblog.com/2...ohn-carew/ |
johnnybear
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... Ryan Babel on his Twitter:Well, Training was canceld because of the weather.. And nobody told me...  |
neil bangor
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... Good morning. It's interesting reading the spurs' site. They don't like Keane. They think Carew is lazy. Carew adds nothing to their squad. They think it's a waste of time even thinking of the scenario. Maybe Ireland is a better choice? They like the idea of Beckford as support /alternative to Defoe. They also think Defoe does not work hard enough. Get Ireland in. |
Tim Mason
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... Just to get ball rolling,bearing in mind we can only raise £10million and we can only improve the team by developing or buying world class players,what do we think we can REALISTICALLY do in the transfer window???? Kenwynne Jones??? Has he the potential to become world class??Come on lets have some realism today |
Tim Mason
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... Perhaps we ought to do nothing?? There is something to be said for not buying or selling anyone in the interests of the club |
neil bangor
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... Big article in Times. Thinks Man Utd getting old I think we must move forward. In our favour,our players nearly all have time to improve. Stephen ireland does look inviting. |
Chris Harper
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... Morning all. Firstly, can I just ask...where has this rumour come from that Carew hardly ever trains? We know nothing about what goes on behind the scenes, lets face it. Talking of Carew being lazy, if you went to the game against Liverpool you would of saw him all over the pitch, he was everywhere. He made loads of blocks/tackles in the final 3rd. Secondly, Carew hasn't had a proper run in the side lately so give him a break, he was being idolised at the end of last season for all the goals he scored when he came back from injury. Shame a lot of people have short memory loss and a tendency to jump on players backs as soon as they can. Sorry, just thought he needed a bit of support. |
Andi
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... Villa - Chris -- I am with you CAREW CAREW CAREW is on fire !!! We all love big john we all love big john we all love big john and so on and so on and so forth |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Firstly, can I just ask...where has this rumour come from that Carew hardly ever trains? It came from a Villa player in some interview(Davies i think ). he said he basically runs around in the same spot and does very little. You should listen to that interview with MON that was on some Birmingham radio show a few weeks ago to see what MON thinks of him. He said it in jest but i think there was a lot of truth also been spoken as well. He nbasically said he can't understand why the fans love him so much when he doesn't even try half the time. I think MON would get shot in a second and i for one at this stage wouldn't be againest it. Great ability but terrible attitude. We are seeing why Carew has had so many clubs in his career. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... A few rumours around today is that Blackburn are after Gudjohnson for £2m. Also Stoke are after Zaki for £1m. Now i haven't seen Gudjohnson play in a while but he is exactly what we lack up front. Zaki at £1m would be a far better option then Boyd. Zaki has shown that he can score goals in this league. Could be a replacement for Carew? |
Andi
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...We are seeing why Carew has had so many clubs in his career Agree with that AK, we all think big john is lazy we all think big john is lazy, NICE bloke though. LOVEABLE ROUGE our BIG JOHN he relates to people with his strip club antics and stuff thats why fans love him |
neil bangor
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... Yes,AK,Good point. MON obviously wants the players to run everywhere, Carew basically gives him the two fingers. No doubt,he is lazy. Strange,he knows the fans love him. Maybe he's just a nutter Looks like Wigan is well on the ball and match will go ahead. None of the teams wants fixture congestion. Wenger complaining already. The trouble with taking a mid term break is,the weather is like a baby's arse,you never can depend on it. The yanks obviously don't have that problem. They are ready for anything |
John Samuels
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...... Gabby lazy? are you blind? He runs his legs off every game. I'm going to coin Southgates old nickname for Carew..'the Ornament' he never moves. Actually that's not true, sometimes he is very good, but his attitude is getting worse and so is his contribution. Sure he knows where the goal is but i'd like a CF who can get more goals. Heskey is better at the support role than Carew and with an out and out goal scorer in the side he becomes a fringe player. JPA, You say Carew is lazy and it's like having ten men at times. Yet you're dead set on wanting Kris Boyd the laziest f**ker in the SPL. Strikes me as odd tbh. Carew guarentees at least 8 - 10 goals and a few assists plus the fans love him to bits. I'd keep him and send Heskey packing as the guy might be playing well now but it won't last. I'd rather have a lazy f**ker who knows where the goal is and take a chance on a player who has broken every goal scoring record in hos domestic league rather than one that doesn't train well and scores 1 in 4. Carew has never ever ever been a top goal scorer, he's had flashes of it in his career but he has never done it consistently and he also keeps getting moved on because of his attitude. Now, i'm not saying he has to go, i'd rather keep him than let him go, but if we are to lose a striker in order to bring one in it would be Carew. I'd like Jones to replace him and i would sign Boyd too just as a random punt for a small transfer fee. I don't think Martin will sell anyone this window the way things are going though. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...LOVEABLE ROUGE our BIG JOHN he relates to people with his strip club antics and stuff thats why fans love him Its a yes and no for me. I find it funny and then i think hold on you are getting paid huge wages(paid to you by the fans) and you are out drinking the night before a game and doing even more then that if the rumours about his 'back inj' are to be believed. Waste of talent to be honest. He does just enough when he wants to keep himself at a good club or get a good contract. |
John Samuels
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...Now i haven't seen Gudjohnson play in a while but he is exactly what we lack up front. I don't think Zaki is the player we need, he was an unknown quantity the beginning of last season, but it wasn't long before he got found out. Did he score a goal in the second half of last season? He was worth £11m this time last year and now he is worth £1m, I wonder why, maybe because he is a bit unpredictable. Gudjohnsen would have been perfect back in his Bolton/Chelsea days, but I think he is pretty much finished at the top level. Never prolific, but never really a play maker either. I think there is better around and would still take a punt on Boyd over both of those because of his age and subsequent re-sale value. when you have him signed up on a long term deal. If Gudjohnsen and Zaki don't come off you lose all the money, but Boyd you could sell on at a profit, even if he's a bit sh*t because of his contract being up. |
Andi
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... Ak - i agree with you but that is why fans love him because he is like the naughty school child and majority of fans look at it like that and not from the point of it costing the club, people love seeing someone who is outside the norm, someone that challenges the system and Big John does that in many ways and that is why fans love him, but even by discussing him on here the amount of people who's opinion has now changed will be huge because when people stop and think like you have explained BIG JOHN isnt what the clubs needs |
John Samuels
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...when people stop and think like you have explained BIG JOHN isnt what the clubs needs Exactly, this is why if he doesn't buck his ideas up he'll be out the door in the summer. |
frem
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... Ashley Young will be guttet if carew goes. He loves him but carew is not a goalscorer. Keane is always in the box and if hes not he breaks a leg to get in there. His movement is very good and hes a good finisher. I think hes the type of stiker that will take his chances, so if he gets as many as gabby he will get tones of goals. If big john goes and we get keane as part of the deal i would like Boyd in or jones but he is very unlikly to come with spurs and blues intrested. We need a center mid with gial, goals and with great vision. Ireland would be perfect but hes a city fan and i dont no if he would leave or if Oneill wakes up he might notice him. Steven Defour or Juardo would b other options. |
Tim Mason
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... No one wants to buy Harewood,so no money[£1mill?] for us.Hull will take him on loan.So we now will only have £9 mil to spend |
John Samuels
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...So we now will only have £9 mil to spend How do we know this? was there a press release I missed or something? |
Andy Whitmore
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... I think there is more chance of the Asteroid hitting us! But would Carew prefere to be located in the Big city lights of London!!! |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Us agreeing is getting disturbingly regular Scary. But one thing we will never agree on is Boyd. We really could not afford to carry a striker like that the way we play. The thought of Gabby and Boyd up front together makes me ill thinking about the amount of lost possession we will have as none neither are atht good with the ball at their feet. Boyd coming into the team would only make us create even less chances then we do now and that then would make Boyd even more ineffective as he is nothing but a poacher. Just not right for us. We need more complete players then Boyd right now. I wouldn't be too againest McCarty to be honest. He will want to make the SA squad for the WC and he has a bit of everything. He is strong, good in the air, can hold the ball up and can finish. Probably more complete then any striker we have at the club at the moment. |
frem
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... Carew agent has just said hes happy at villa and hes playing good so why should he leave. Why cant Oneill just buy keane for 8mil. Hes a mad man. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Good news for us if that old leggy Vieira knocks Bazzer Barry out oft he city side. They will be much weeker. Mancini is a plank if he thinks Vieira casn hack it in todays premiership. And Baz Barry can come back home no problem and play in the fastback ace formation 4.2.3.1 with Petrov as the other holder. goodtimes |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...None of the teams wants fixture congestion Neil going into a WC year this must be the last thing the FA want. They know that the season can't be extended. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...frem said:I guess he's up for one last big payday - and he's only cover for Heskey anyroad. |
John Samuels
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... Fair enough ak, I just think that given our transfer budget we will only bring in a bargain this Jan and I think everyone knows it is likely to be another striker if we do as this is where we need to improve. It is fair being linked with all these Veteran strikers like McCarthy, RVN, Gudjohnsen, Keane etc. Realistically tho they may all be good for a while, but they are losing their legs, none of them are playing particularly well at the moment and none of them have been prolific goalscorers for a while. Boyd is 26 and £1.5m. The fee is not reflective of his ability but of the 6 months left on his contract, so even if he never plays you can make a profit on him. He is also playing for a club top of the table in his domestic league and flying. He knows where the goal is and may feel he has something to prove. If we keep the strikers we have I really think he could come in a push the three main strikers we have for a spot. We may see much better performances from Gabby, Heskey and Carew, which means Boyd might not even have to play to make an impact and at the price quoted that wouldn't be a problem. I don't think it would affect Delfouneso's progress either as I think MoN knows what he's all about and he will continue to get chances. I think If Boyd were to come Carew would be off in the summer and depending on Boyds success he could too. I just think because of the cicumstance it's too good a gamble to pass up. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA if Zaki is there for £1m then he would be far more effective. I think he didn't score after xmas becasue he fell out with his manager. He is a big strong mobile lad who would bring more to the table then Boyd. Plus he can finish. MON was interested back then i wonder if he will over look his attitude though. Regarding vertern strikers we need to think about right now also. The addition of a McCarty even if it only works for the next 5 months could be worth it all if we managed to get 4th. He is also playing for a club top of the table in his domestic league and flying. He knows where the goal is and may feel he has something to prove. But this is part of my problem with Boyd. Being Irish we get to see a lot of Scottish footbll due to the large Celtic fan base here and the old firm are miles ahead of the rest of that league. Its basically like having a poor PL team playing a league one team every week. They control all the games and create loads of chances due to being far better then poor teams they are playing againest. That won't be the case down in the PL. He would get eaten up by far better players all around him and shown up for the average player he is. |
Andi
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... Big John's agent has said he aint leaving so there is another rumour gone down the pan. Boyd sounds more likely if anything is going to come off but i doubt it |
Andi
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... Just out of interest other than LARRSON has any striker from a scottish club ever made it in Premier league ??? |
woody
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... Let's be realistic we aint gunna get a striker than can contend with the likes of defoe, torres, tevez or even keane if we only spend 1 million pounds on zaki! Best thing to do would probebly sell Heskey and Harewood and buying Kenwyne jones for support for Carew and Agbonlahor. Not forgetting we also have Delafounso coming up and he looks promising! |
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... People dont want Carew because they like him but also want a player who can score goals. So unless the formation changes or Carew gets sent to bench then HEskey sold both these things cant happen. |
john doyle
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... get rid of all 3 strikers hesky gabby and big john none of them are any good sell all of them and play the fonz |
john doyle
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... get rid of all the forwards heskey john and gabby they are all rubbish play the fonz and the kids gabby has the touch of a pub player the fonz is the best forward on the books at least he can play 90 mins unlike the rest get rid of them all dont matter who he buys the will be better than these 3 |
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