Written by Damian Saturday, 06 June 2009 08:35
For some reason every where I look this morning I seem to be reading something about Aston Villa. It is all speculation, apart from John Carew talking about every player at the club and how great they are and how he is flattered by the apparent interest from Manchester City.
But, I don't really want to talk about Carew, because Saturday sort of deserves to be about rumours and the big one is that Harry Redknapp will offer £8mn. plus David Bentley for Ashley Young.
I know, it is laughable and it's not nearly enough, but he thinks it is possible. Martin O'Neill has told us all how much he values Young and while I'd quite like David Bentley on the right hand side of our five man midfield, no way at the expense of Young and a paltry £8 million.
The slightly worrying thing is that there is another rumour that we are interested in Spurs midfielder Jermaine Jenas and that we are willing to pay £10mn. for him. I'm worried because the Arthur Daly of football will see this as an opportunity to make a deal and the value of that deal could look very appealing to Martin O'Neill.
I suspect, if Harry puts a deal forward which involved Young, Jenas and Bentley plus some cash, O'Neill might say yes, because he has bleated on about lack of numbers and you can't doubt that those two players would be quality additions and I'm also not convinced that he has that much money, so the opportunity to get more cash for summer transfer might also be appealing.
The thing is, if we value both those players at £10mn, I'd want them plus another £10mn in cash and you know what, regardless of what O'Neill has said about Young in the past, he'd accept that. The worrying thing is, I think I'd be happy with those two players plus £10mn. in cash too. Spurs fans will say it's too much but all I'll say to Spurs fans is, on his day, he is wroth it.
But, the speculation isn't over. We're also apparently interested in Rosenborg defender, Vadim Demidov and Serbian defensive midfielder Nenad Mililjas.
I know absolutely nothing about them other than they apparently play football. If you do know something about them, please let us know in the comments below, but I'm not even going to pretend or YouTube them as it would me just joking.
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FatKevs
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... It would not suprise me either Mon does not force himself in the transfer market just sitting back to see what he is offerd |
Daniel Wilson
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... Ashley would become a laughing stock if he ditched us for the spuds. It would be a backwards step, no two ways about it. Spuds are Mn City without the big cash to progress. I'd like Jenas but as a separate deal. I can see him coming to move to a bigger better club with a brighter future, and to enhance his england chances for the world cup. If this 8mil + bentley deal goes through, I give up on life and sanity and will check myself into Tindal, my local mental health centre. Personally I think Redknapp twitched and hit the wrong number on his keyboard. Jog on. any spurs fans reading this, it's nothing personal but your rubbish. |
Eoin Greene
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... What is it and us being linked with Spurs players - and especially ones that are not good enough for them? If we are supposedly stronger than them - why are we supposedly interested in all their players. Jenas is my opinion is absolutely useless. He has about 37 bad matches a season and never has an infleunce in games. Bentley I have come around to thinking may be worth taking a chance on - for about 8m, but personally i have reservations about him too. If we could take 1 or two realistic signings from Spurs - I would sign Bale and Hutton and at a push Huddlestone. If Villa sell Ashley Young this summer - we will know the intentions of the club Lerner and O'Neill. It will show what most non-villa fans think allready - that we have no ambition. |
HT (Sweden)
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... Damian: what is happening with Villa? Aren´t we supposed nowadays with MON and Lerner be the club that buys fråm teams like Tottenham and keep our talents, instead of the opposite? Whats the point with a big shot like Lerner if i can´t give us the financial muscles we need to progess to top 4 and more? |
Nick
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... Vadim Demidov is a defensive midfielder (the definition of which is sometimes open to interpretation), so I guess he would be challenging Petrov for a place. I doubt Young would leave for Spurs, and I doubt MON would accept anything under 20m for him. I guess Bentley and Jenas plus 10m is probably about that, but still to sell our best player (he is now) to one of our closest rivals for a top 6 place next season would be just stupid. And I really don't think MON is stupid. I just wouldn't be able to stand the look on Redknapps face either if Young moved their. He said he offered a deal for Barry but I doubt Barry would have gone there either, he has a greater chance at Birmingham City at getting in the Champions League than at Spurs. |
Gee
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... Don't be surprised if the whiter than white "it wasn't me Gov, i'm as honest as the day is long" Redknapp isn't in the process of tapping up Ash as we speak!!! |
darrenvilla26
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... why is it that redknapp the c**t comes out and talks about every player under the sun..and that's allowed?? i know he hasn't said anything specifically about webcam but he probably will later today say something along the lines of "i like the lad, he's a quality player and one who i'd love to have but we haven't made a bid"...he always plants those seed's of doubt in players minds. I mean the other day..he comes out with a comment about how he bid for Barry and so did Liverpool...what right has he got saying all that? I might come out and say how i'd love to bang his daughter in law, and that she's well fit and i dream of her everynight but she's a married woman...TW*T!!! anyway...jenas would be a good buy i think, as wood be bentley, but not at the expense of young, this is a player who has had a great season, and won a couple of awards along the way, the figure quoted is insulting. just a word on the right back position...i honestly see us using Milner as second right back next season, just had that feeling. |
c41uk
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... well the fact is tottenham have more money and a bigger fanbase so why would he be a laughing stock? oh and jenas IS crap |
Damian
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... HT (Sweden) That was what we were 'led to believe' but it turns out it is maybe otherwise. Let's just wait to see what happens this summer. It is a defining one for Lerner. |
darrenvilla26
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... would*...as opposed to the wood i wrote above...too much louise redknapp on the mind me thinks...  |
MaxTHFC
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... haha you mugs, getting all defensive because your club captain left for the ££. No doubt Young would join Spurs, we are clearly a bigger, more fashionable outfit; lets not forget your laughable end to the season. If it hadn't been for our dreadful start we would've finished above you without question. Lets just say I'm quietly confident about next season, especially now your best player has been cherry picked.  |
Marky Mark
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... Dan Wilson you are a tool of the highest order son. Why did Barry leave to go Man City? Because he could not stand playing for a load of bottlers like you thats's why. You boys have our cast offs and be grateful for them beacause that's all that you can attract and don't forget it. |
whitehartlad
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... DanWilson28..you must be on drugs mate if you think Villa are a bigger club than Spurs!!! Villa faded as quickly as they attempted to rise last season and of course we wallopped you towards the end just to rub salt in the wound. If Young has any ambition he will be very tempted by the thought of coming to London and joining The Rednapp revoloution at one of the biggest clubs in the world. (12th richest club in the world according to Deloitte Touches recent appraisal of world footbal clubs. The prospect playing in front of 60'000 at our new stadium will also tickle his fancy!(This will also increase our standing in the world football rich league even further) Dream on mate...Spurs you lot will never be |
Damian
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... MaxTHFC Our club captain retired. If you are talking about Barry, then actually, most see that it is good business and that Barry wasn't actually that good. Still, seeing as you follow the third biggest team in your City, you'll know all about getting mugged off. |
Ironmike
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... OMG, you're a deranged bunch.MON has done a brilliant job at Villa, but believing you'll get JJ,Bentley AND 10 mil is so out there it's not even funny.Selling Barry just proves that just like my beloved Tottenham,you'll be scrapping for top six next year as well.When was the last time Villa won ANYTHING...? |
Rivett
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... The seasons of Villa and Spurs really mirrored each other last season didn't they. Where it looks like Villa are on a slide, Spurs finished the season strongly, in such a way that they can look forwards to next season with more optimism. With Villa wanting to increase squad number, and Spurs no doubt looking to do the opposite with no European football next season I think I Bentley + Jenas straight swap for Young could be a good deal for both parties. |
fred......east
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... you are linked with some great players..not!! no wonder barry wanted to leave.. lets see by the end of august how much ambition villa have by what they have signed..two years into barry's five year contract he will be playing european football with some truly great players...one word..ambition..!! |
Cunn1ng
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... haha absolute no hopers......... villa never stop moaning, it must be that f**ked up boring nasal accent you have. To be fair i'd moan if i had that too. Your team is about to fall apart...... a decent half season........ and you think your david essex !! |
carteltheyid
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... danwilson you must be having a laugh! "spurs are man city without the cash"....what an insult to be compared to that yoyo club who haven't won a trophy in decades!....spurs managed to out spend city in january, and will have a sizable warchest this summer, the sort of warchest MON would love! as for ashley young, ok good player but the way villa go on about him is abit over the top, what do you value him 30mil?? thats ridiculous, ....remember what corluka done to him at villa? made him disappear!....and as for villa, lets see how you do next season without barry and laursen...if the last 2 months of this season where anything to go by, your gonna struggle. your replacements for these 2 very important players wont be anyway near as good as them! roll on next season! |
davy41
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... Sorry pal but if its two spurs players then there should be NO cash involved.Jenas and Bentley for Young sounds fair if you ask me |
Altan Kargaci
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... Firstley if Ashley Young was to be sold it could only be to a top four side and not one of our direct rivals . ( Again ) The bare minimum price would have to be at least £30mn. I honestly can't see MON letting him go anywhere right now , we have already lost Laursen and Barry . MON proved last year he is quite good at digging his heals in if its needed . Harry Redknapp should not be allowed to publicly announce who he is interested in signing it's no different to tapping up shorly. Anyway I cant see Ash wanting to play his football at that corrugated iron hell hole that is white hart lane anyway . MON needs to go out and sign Hangerland or Cahill , Defour, Delph and either Tuncay or Martins . UTV |
kingrollo
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... Crucially MON is on Holiday - what happened to the something MON had up his sleeve - Defour in the next couple of days wasn't it ? - I wonder if MON just sees us as a stepping stone - so long as we tick over - top half - he's not actually that bothered. |
clevblue
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... Man city fan here, we got stung by 'Arry and his underhanded mathods when he took Distin, Cole, James from us, then flogged us a crocked Benjani FFS. I think you can trust Martin and Lerner to get the right deal though. |
Spurs2000
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... One half-decent season and apparently Villa are a much bigger team than Spurs, with a far brighter future? Personally, I think that Villa and Spurs are roughly equivalent right at this present time. Only that Villas squad is too small to ride out a whole season. If Young was to go to Spurs it would mainly be a sideways step for him, not a downward one as you would like to make believe. In spite of the topsy turvy season we had and you guys having your best in years, there was only a couple of places seperating the teams at the end of the day. Whilst I think Spurs will look to improve next term and finish top 6, I can't see Villa doing much better than where they finished, if that. Can you honestly see yourselves breaking the top 4? Don't make me laugh. |
Chris
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... don't worry Villa fans. Spurs really don't need another winger. Tho if you want some of our deadwood your welcome to them. |
John Flynn
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... All redknapp does is build cup teams i can see Spuds having there usual average season and maybe a little run in the League cup.. As we all know you lot only buy players you sold before, so if your lucky (and can afford it) you might get Mendes back.. |
yiddo
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... Listen to you lot, how can it be a backward step we are assembling a team to compete with the big 4 and your captain who quoted "I want champions league footy" f**ks of to man city for money in all fairness I feel sorry for you cos you are at where we were under martin jol......Nearly man . |
Damian
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... Spurs2000 Next season is either going to see Spurs do exactly what they did this season, which I dount or they're going to start as they finished. Spurs under Twitcher are a threat to the top four. Aston Villa, need to spend money to strengthen or Spurs will over take us next season. |
Jimbo Daventry Villa
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... cunn1ng, do you actually know anything about football you thick twat?. You had a decent half season aswell didn't you?? oh and we finished above you. were more successful than you have a bigger history and are still bigger now!! I'm not going to lower myself to taking the piss out of your accent as it would make me as pathetic as you. Now go and bore someone else you tosser. |
Nick
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... But spurs will be pretty good next season. I think we'll be battling it out with them and Everton for the scraps, as always... |
pshort1408
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... both clubs cant hold on to best players once big four come calling (or mancity) spurs now have decent manager after start of last season both teams best hope 5th place at moment spurs new stadium might help them and in my opinon are better option |
amin
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... Seriously all u villa fans are on a different planet. U finished 6 th u tossers....6th! Why do u think ur so good. It takes time to build a good squad. As spurs have cleearly shown. We have more money than u...a bigger fan base....new stadium going through planning...and a new training ground being constructed...we are bigger than villa...its a fact. Why the hell do u thinkjenas and bentley and 10 mill equals 20 mill? U r off ur head. Ashley young tailed off towards the end and I wouldn't pay more than 20. Bentley is worth about 10 or 12 mill. Dan wilson....u look gay and u probably are. Please don't call spurs rubbish when u blatantly take it up the back door. Good luck next season.....oone step forwards and 2 steps back spring to mind. |
peter power
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... spurs are only the 4th best team in london and that was because west ham faded at the end.arry fatnap should keep his gob shut,young is on £56,000 at villa more than any spuds player and they dont pay out big wages. |
Jimbo Daventry Villa
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... honestly are all these cockneys on here today complete brain dead?? Please enlighten me on how you consider Spurs to be a bigger club than Villa?????? check your history.. Villa are more successful FACT. |
Mike Carter
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... Spurs bigger than Villa? Are you pullin my pisser? Playin in front of 60,000? Are you tryin to mug me off? You did such a good job of fillin your 36,000 didn't ya? You mug. Playing in front of 15,000 empty seats more like. You melt. You have got some right fat neck. You think you're going to better Martin O'Neil'? He's a right moody geezer, a right ice cream freezer. He's proper naughty, you mug. You muppet. Luka Modric? You're havin a bubble ain't ya? Do you want a dry slap my son? Right across your boat race? You're a mug. What do you know about football you melt? You're having a turkish ain't ya? Mug. You're taking the Dennis Wise. Sweet as a nut. |
John Clark
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... Don't see Young going to Spurs. No point getting Bentley in if it means Young going out. Not as influential, doesn't work as hard, doesn't present the same attacking threat as Ash. A Bentley on the right would would complement Young, but he's never a replacement/equivalent player, as Harry's rumored offer confirms. Spurs will just have to accept they were mugged on that deal. |
peter power
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... are all the crack dens in hackney closed? with all these deluded yids coming on saying they are the biggest team in the world.villa are and always will be bigger than the spuds |
Mcfc
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... What is it about spuds fans thinking they're a big club .They are the shit of London. I wont even talk about their shit fans and their over rated opinions about their small ugly club. As for City being a yo yo club i think those days have changed now and when we are dominating English football those comments might just come back and haunt you . Onwards and upwards. |
YidJoe
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... "haha you mugs, getting all defensive because your club captain left for the ££. No doubt Young would join Spurs, we are clearly a bigger, more fashionable outfit; lets not forget your laughable end to the season. If it hadn't been for our dreadful start we would've finished above you without question. Lets just say I'm quietly confident about next season, especially now your best player has been cherry picked." Makes me proud to be a Spurs fan... Guess their laughable end to the season equals our laughable start to the same season... Still they finished above us. That said. Jenas + Bentley + 10m for Young IS laughable. Good player though. |
CP
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... Nigel Reo Coker. What does everyone think is going to happen to him? I was really quite impressed in his first season but he was a ghost last campaign. Is he Villa quality? Will he be content as a squad player or will he mope and move on? I like Bentley and Jenas, but Young is something special. He is something that keeps Villa fans excited because he promises so much potential. A Chelsea move I'd understand, but the Spuds can get f***ed. |
Jima
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... Lots of cheap comments by bitter spurs and villa fans but from a sensible point of view all 3 players mentioned could probably do (as Barry wanted) with a fresh challenge in a new team. MON could get more out of JJ and Bentley, and I saw a few games this season where Young was non existent - he's had 1 good season for Villa, one for Watford so 30M is way off the mark. Swap deal seems the most logical for all parties and like a few people have said - spurs need less players villa more - Villa could maybe try for Dawson too???? |
adam
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... vivavilla. nice i like that one. f**k off spuds you deluded pricks. after selling barry lerner and mon wouldnt dare sell ash. WOULD THEY? |
Richard Bunn
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... You Spuds fans are hilarious. Young will only be released if a "big 4" club come in for him. I personally think Ashley needs another good season before this happens. He's going nowhere, just like Spurs |
Daniel Wilson
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... Ha I love banter with Spurs fans, flipping quality! amin, we already have the plush trsing ground and an amazing stadium, your always playing catch up. Did you ever win the european cup, jog on you poser. Spurs really entertained me last season, I remember I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that cocktail stick joke for the first time. |
madladdy
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... Honestly don't some people get worked up about nothing! Go and read back the papers from last year, 99% of the 'stories' are nothing more than dreams of the 'journalists'. And the reason Spurs get nice exciting stories: The papers are all in London so there'll be lots of little Spurs fan floating around. The crap/facts you read about Spurs in the papers is nothing more than a fan wish list..you guys do remember Ramos was going to use his 'Spanish contacts' to bring in Ronaldinho when he left Barcelona right? Yeah exactly... Jesus rather than get wound up just make up your own.. I'll start with one of equal merit. Villa to offer conman Harry, Sidwell & £8m in exchange for Keane. |
southgatescrookednose
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... ashley young join spurs LOL .u fannies had so much ambition that keane defoe and berbatov your best players jumped ship.keane came back because he wasnt good enough for a top 4 side, barry left because he got offered 100+ grand a week. turned you w****rs down too didnt he ? |
Altan Kargaci
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... cp Reo Coker , great leader , great tackler and winner of the ball , gives 110% . But he just cant pass the bloody ball to anyone in Claret and Blue ! UTV |
Holte Ender 136
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... I'd just like to thank spurs for buying bentley, turning him into an under-achiever and making him a typical Martin O'Neill signing. Just watch, if MON does sign him, he'll turn his career around and Bentley will be an England regular before long and Spurs will regret the day they sold him. Another thing, I'm pretty sure that the majority would choose Villa players in the majority of positions, over Spurs players in a starting XI were they given the chance. You're right, 'roll on next season' - I can't wait to see John Carew write off your defence and twitcher to get some more abuse from the Villa faithful. |
johnnybear
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... about Nenad Mililjas,press said O'Neill will be on hand personally to watch the midfielder in Belgrade on Saturday, when Serbia take on Austria in a World Cup 2010 qualifier. http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=821703 |
Scott
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... Why would we want ashley young?????? We have Luka Modric on the wing, A moretalented player than young, Fair enough young moves like a african being chaced by a lion but luka has more finesse and skill than young. He had a decent season but cant see him on par next season at villa, end if the day villa will be a one season wonder, will be mid table next season now they lost barry and the sweed |
Altan Kargaci
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... Off subject , sorry . Have you seen that Heskey is likely to be playing as a lone striker for England tonight ....!! Im reckon Gabby would do a better job ? My god we (England) need a new Liniker/Shearer/Owen . |
Leroy
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... The age old argument of who is a bigger club....it really is the most primitive and pathetic thing around which makes it more understandable why Spurs fans bark on about it continuously. Spurs fans - How about you all post what make of car you have, the value of it, the size of your house in cubic meters and value of it, your monthly wage to the last cent and the bra size of your girlfriend or other significant other and the size of your stamp collection and value of.......that would be the best way to find out who is bigger and better. You only have to look at what Spurs 2000 has written to see what kind of mindsets the fans have..... "One half-decent season and apparently Villa are a much bigger team than Spurs, with a far brighter future?" Whilst you lot are trying to buy any player with a big name, sell them, then buy them back (for more than you recieved in the first place) we have managed to play better football than you for the last couple of seasons I look at results personally. I see that Spurs finished below Villa. Villa at this stage are a better side than Tottenham. |
Leroy
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... I was supposed to add that no one on here from the Villa actually gives a shit who is bigger.......we want to win...thats all we want |
Fred
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... Villa's history was built in a spell of 2/3 years in the 80s. You haven't done much before or after compared to Spurs. Both clubs are amongst the top echelon of English football, and I respect villa, but Spurs are the bigger brand. We're the most commercially successful club outside the G14 cartel, in fact we earn more than some of them and we'll soon have a huge new stadium. I like young but he's not as good as is being made out- corluka had him in his pocket when we did you at vp. 18m max. Villa will continue to slide down the league next season IMO |
villafan
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... We need a replacement for barry and i think Jenas could do a job for us. Bentley would be handy as well so a trade Jenas + Bentley for Ashley looks good to me. Spuds will be really challenging for CL next season imo and with the sale of barry I think ashley will really be tempted to move to London. |
john
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... Everyone knows if you try to attempt a normal conversation about football with spurs fans, it's simply not gonna happen. I can only hope and pray that spurs follow their geordies counter parts down where they belong next season. I have nothing against spurs as a team; I think they have some decent players. It's this arrogance that their fans bring everywhere, consistently under-achieving. If most teams in the prem had the level of investment they'd had last 8 years, they'd have had considerably more success. Down to what's important. Jenas - not good enough. He's absolutely NO better than Gardner and would be a total insult to him if we bought Jenas. Bentley going the opposite way to webcam ash plus 8mil is most laughable out of all of this. That would be valuing Bentley after a crap season at roughly 22+mil. Ash is clearly worth more than 20mil. You only have to look at his assist record over the last 2 seasons to back this up, that he's the top left winger in the country. |
Smartie
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... One good season and villains think you all that. You are very much the same as spurs. Young moving to spurs would be a step sideways rather than down. I dont expect this to happen as these sort of deals hardly ever transpire. |
pshort1408
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... this is the same old argument you can have on any football blog what is a big club newcastle spurs everton villa west ham leeds is it support is it trophies is it money is it how well you have performed in the premiership or over the last hundred years lets face it there are two big clubs man utd and liverpool two wanna bees chelsea and aresnal the rest of us can dream on i like the way villa played there football this year but ran out of steameuropa league next year prob do the same need four new signings to stand still as other teams will improve man city spurs west ham portsmouth! |
Michael
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... the thing with ashley young is that on his day, villa cant put a price on his head, because we wont be able to replace him with the same quality who would be willing to play for us. however if we were to get bentley, jenas, bale and dos santos then that would be a good move for both teams, spurs get rid of 4 players they dont want and replace them with a player that they do want, and we lose a player that we dont want to lose, but replace him with 4 players that we do need, a good right winger, a creative midfielder/one for the future, a good young left back and a midfielder who is stronger than reo-coker and sidwell, without spending any money. that way we can sell either reo-coker or sidwell, put that with the money we got for barry and whatever we have in our fund and buy a quality central defender and a quality striker. 6 quality players in 2 players out and probably a few milliomn to spend on a squad player or 2. |
daniel wheeler
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... keep young and carew then add some fresh blood. only way forward for the villa. as for the spuds,well what can you say, bigger than villa er no worst team in london er yes  |
DAKA-YID
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... honestly! FACT! wind ur neck right in jimbo u brummy. ur lot could learn alot from our club like how to fill ur stadium and support ur team even when they r playin shit. ya's have a gud season if ya could call it that coz ya's folded in the end. call urselves a big club wise up. ashley young knows who's the bigger club thats why he held off movin to vp untill our interest cooled.FACT. ashley is comin to SPURS where he belongs. i look forward to ur free fall nxt season and then we'll see how many people rush to vp to watch ur wee team play. |
Org45
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... As a long time Norwegian Villa fan I can give you the info on Vadim Demidov as he plays for my my beloved Rosenborg. First, the boy is a central defender. He playes the occational match as a back up defensive ancher on midfield, but imo he lacks the passing and technical abillity for this role. He is a young talented player with strong mind and much selfconfidence. Will he make it in the PL? I very much doubt so. He limited technical and tactical skills. He is certainly not cutout to be nowere near the standard required to fix Villas struggling rearside. He will ceretainly come at about 3 mill, and at that price I recon he is a worth a shot for the future. That, and nothing more... I rather he stay at Rosenborg, and Villa loos elswhere. Sorrry bout bad English.. Org45 |
coys
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... VivaVilla - I'm still trying to decipher your message, but that was very good try at attempting to post something worthwhile. I really think you could print it off, take it in on Monday and maybe even get a gold star for your efforts. Well done, bless. Anyway, one point that I would definitely like to comment on is that you can hardly get a ticket at WHL for love nor money these days. It is always packed, even when we played some crappy eastern European team on a cold Thursday night. It certainly will not be a problem to fill the new stadium. |
woodinho
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... I love spurs fans, biggest bunch of cockney big heads around. If you think ash is gonna move to you lot and take a huge backwards step you ate thicker than you all look, owlwight! |
Leroy
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... Unfortunately it seems the last ounce of faith i had in London´s Schooling system has now evaporated(or gone away for Spurs fans) |
Smartie
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... Villains and spurs fans are alike if you read these comments. The one calling the other deluded is very much the pot calling the kettle black. As said above their are only 4 big teams and neither of us are one of them. |
coys
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... Leroy - you've actually spent time considering your levels of faith in schooling systems according to geographical location? Unemployment continues to rocket in the Midlands I guess. You have to much time on your hands. By the way, there is no need for a capital S on schooling, and also should be a space between evaporated and your open bracket. |
carteltheyid
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... danwilson lets be honest mate, villa will struggle next season....with or without young....we were in the relegation zone while you occupied top 4 and we managed to climb to within 2 places of you...we have a great squad and thats why teams like villa are sniffing around, with a couple more quality signings we will push on next season...the same can definately not be said for villa....selling your best player to the team that finished 10th says it all. |
madladdy
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... Do find it a bit odd a lots of Spurs fans seem to think they're in a great position!? They've had two seasons they're thrown money, hyped themselves up into a 'top4 this year' and struggled.. and Villa and Everton have both finished 5/6th. What makes me laugh is the belief in Harry too, since Harry took over our points tallys our exactly the same... this with our TERRIBLE end of the season and all. Spurs are behind Villa, Everton & Man City.. and will be fighting WITH us all next year.. they're as far away from Top4 as the rest of us. Like it or not the league is nothing about 'ambition' - its all about money. Give any team £500m for players and they'll suddenly seem very 'ambitious' too. When you all mention 'ambition' you mean we should speculate - ie spend money we don't really have. Well the only teams to have done that are Newcastle & Leeds.. look where it got them. The Top4 teams spend the money they have - just like the rest of us - its just they have more to start with. Now Man City have £500b to start with - they're the only team who will really challenge the Top4 in the next few years and if they get their act together they could blow everyone out the water. |
Luka
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... Villa fans - a couple of seasons ago Spurs finished 5th twice in a row. You haven't even managed it once. Then the big 4 come in and take off the cream. It will happen to you too . And before you say that mon will stick in his heels, didn't your owner only recently say that he would happily make Barry see out his contract? That went well. |
Fred
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... Leroy us spurs fans know we should be winning more, but my post was arguing that we're in a better position to challenge the "Sky 4" monopoly. ----- Villa's achievements are centered on an exceptional spell from 1981 to 83. |
Steve
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... For a start, replying to one of the earlier posts, I don't believe we are stronger than Spurs especially now we have lost Barry to the Mancs, secondly, I think Spuds are on par with us and as much as I would love to think we can resist the offer, MON will accept the cash plus players and we will be stuck with a winger who can't dribble and an average 5th choice England midfielder. Having said that, losing Barry was a bitter pill to swallow but Jenas would be a similar player to Barry bring in and our midfield would still be strong. The comment earler about Spuds being like city without the cash (lol) but its not true and we cant allow ourselves to become bitter. Spurs have and always have and always will have more cash and pull than us and will spend BIG again this summer because again as much as I personally have no particular liking for them, they are an extremely well-run, self sufficient club (unlike Man Shitty) and can sustain huge losses year after year. Personally I can see Ash going to Spurs as he is a London lad and I think i read somewhere he is a Spurs supporter, as is his little brother. Please stay Ash and please resist MON |
brum-brum-beep-beep
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... spurs are a bigger team than yours, ur fans are so deluded. i hope u crash and burn this season after losing ur two best players, laursen and barry, next year your struggle to make top ten let-alone top 6 |
Steve Blunt
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... Thought I'd logged in to the spurs blog for a minute... can we get back to talking villa from a villa fans perspective? |
Joky
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... As ever this looks like redknobs trademark transfer process: A, start a bunch of rumors to unsettle players B, go on TV an say what a huge admirer you are of them C, hopefully they will be that unsettled they will sign, or D, will tell him to sod off Of course the trick when sowing seeds of discontent to to scatter as many as you can, so i'm sure harry will be shouting about all his transfer targets soon. |
epochery
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... Yes you may have finished above us but with your last 3 months compared with spurs, well have a lok at who was the better side. So 8, mill plus Bentley for that overrated Young, your having a laugh. |
Joky
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... OOOPS, Forgot to mention the last part of Redknobs transfer process, and the most important. E, get investigated by police. There, that completes the picture |
Smartie
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... Anyways good luck to villa next season. We dont have any reason not to like each other. I for one hope one of us break the hold of the sky 4 instead of man shitty no matter how unlikely it would seem. |
testie
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... Spurs fans are a bunch of c**ts, your manager looks like he's constantly having a stroke, does fat harry have a tick or is it torrets. Complete w****rs. All spurs fans are the most common folk in London doing the jobs all the stupid people do like picking up paper. |
truevillan
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... these rumours will persist until MON pulls his finger out and makes some top quality signings! all the talk is of our best players being tracked by other clubs, we need to get buying and show our squad and competitors we mean business, then both the players and other teams will realise we are a serious premeirship club and the players will be settled and other clubs know we are not a selling club. unfortunately, knowing MON, he will happily sell away without having replacements lined up as his transfer record is not that of a top club. i expect another summer of exciting links being dismissed by MON in favour of over priced average english players, as is his record! |
Ginge1
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... Touchy, touchy you Villa fans. Look we finished 5th twice then one by one the Sky 4 stated pinching our best players (Carrick, Berbatoss, Keane). You have a very small window of opportunity to break into the CL if you don't make it your screwed cos your best players will get pinched. I think your window was the season just gone, you were flying, however Laursen got injured and you dropped like a stone. The coming season two of your best players have gone (how are you going to replace Laursen - Knight / Davies , I'd be worried) Also both of those players were leaders, I don't see too many others. Would love to have Young of you, but can't see it, we could give him a pay rise but not to the likes of the Sky 4 or Citeh. On that note why oh why has Barry gone to City!???? City!!!!!!! I live in City heartland and any City fan will tell you, even with all the money in the world they will find away to balls up a serious challenge for any trophy! Its just in their nature! Bentley would be a good player for someone, but he's no pace and not a patch on Lennon so he can go (I like Milner so why do you need Bentley) Jenas has one immense game a season then vanishes, I'd like to keep him cos you always feel he has more to offer (but rarely does). As for size of clubs I'd say Villa & Spurs are of similar stature, we've only got a 36k capacity ground but have plans in for a new 58k & we have over 20k on the season ticket waiting list (that's right TWENTY THOUSAND ON THE WAITING LIST!) We have won nothing of note (like Villa) for donkey's years, yet we're still the 12th richest club in the world. Oh and we do have players earning more than £50k. Lots of Love The Mighty Yid Army x |
Leroy
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... If Spurs are so much bigger than Citeh and have so much more money then why did Redknapp come out and say that he "was blown out of the water by City" when it came to bidding for Barry? |
Milenko
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... Yes, Demidov is a central defender, plays at my other favourite team Rosenborg. Not the finished product yet, but took the step up too the top league in Norway like a champ. He has definately the potential to be a hit, maybe not next season but the following.... Also his father was the best handballer in the world for a couple of seasons too, so i dont think there is any problem with the athletic potential either. His father has also said that Vadim Demidiv could have made it as a professional handballer aswell. In my eyes a natural talent, but a bit young still, a little raw but bags og potential. Needs to mature a little in his position, but at his age he is better now than Hangeland was at the same age. Also he is like 22 or something and is the boss in the defence already for the team that has not lost a game this season. I would also have liked a sneaky bid for Skjelbred from Rosenborg, runs and runs and hardly ever looses the ball. Too bad he had a set back after he broke his leg a couple of years ago after a maniac tackle in the champions league, but still only 22. Some very good youngsters at Rosenborg. |
testie
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... amin - victim of domestic abuse i think, get some help talk to someone. Make that pain go away. Sitting at home stroking your picture of big Sol won't help. I bet you are a hairy fatty (no offense to the other hairy fatty's) just don't like this prick who can't find his dick. I hope you have the bad aids. |
madladdy
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... Also back to the point in hand.. I do wonder if people on here watch footy or just like to play msg board flame wars.. Neither Jenas or Huddlestone are good enough for a top8 side. If you go back 6months the Spurs fans would have driven them both up here for free. Its not a coincidence Spurs season took off when they bought Palacios into their midfield. Bentley is worth a shot, not sure why it hasn't worked out for him but since he's flopped big time he isn't worth anything like the £16m they OVER paid in the 1st place. I'd say £7-8m for what is essentially nothing more than a mid table squad player. (ie if you look at the hard facts!) |
valle
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... Lets just agree that both Villa and Spurs are deluded, none of you support big clubs. There are only 4 of those in the EPL and anyway Everton, Leeds and Newcastle are bigger than you regardless of leagues... It would do yourself a world of good if you got relegated next season and join Newcatle in the Champ. |
Ex-pro
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... You Brummies are all the same. sORT BLOODY sIGHTED!!!!! Tottenham are owned by ENIC who have 20 plus times the wealth that Learner has.........sorry but we would sneeze and swallow you without the GULP!!!! Fact. The only good thing's I read here is..that "ARRY" is a wheeler dealer yep a rogue Jenas is garbage yep agree you are most welcome to him and that you want to keep Young (a life long spurs fam by the way) great he is over rated and like Robbie Keane when he is on the pitch you need 2 balls one for him and 1 for the other 9 outfield players.I Like MON great manger but You lot are so blinkerd its untrue! I watched you lot play and your as predictable as Spurs.......ooooohhhh got the ball , quick give it to ashley. So one sided like Spurs its a joke..........And by the way the league table has proven that with moneyless Everton being a more balanced side then us both. |
saltyboy
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... chaps, it is a shame that most of you on here obviously think villa are far greater than the spurs or even as good as may other villa sides of the past. lets be honest, spurs have finished 5th twice and got to 2 cartling cup finals and the semi final of the ufea cup and won the carling cup in recent years. i am not denying that villa are a good outfit but your comparisons are so far away. you got young for 10m or less, bentley although the same age as young he is a far more experienced prem player. Young is a londoner too. so 8 mil cash and a 15 million pound player is a very fair deal. none of you would regret spending that 8 mil and a few more to add Jenas onto that deal. after all, he has bags abgs of energy and for those who say he doesnt turn up to games. does anyone remember 4 games recently against arsenal? Jenas is just turned 24 and he has been around forever. wake up and smell the coffee chaps |
Dean in Brum
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... DanWilson82 and Vandutch are the biggest idiots, proved by their pathetic posts. "Spurs are rubbish" and "Birmingham City have better a chance of Champions League Football than us". Yeah, right. Remember, we finished 5th in two successive seasons very recently, and have also been in two successive League Cup Finals. You lot finish above us for one season, and suddenly we're "rubbish" and Birmingham apparantly have a bigger chance of CL football. I hope you do end up some of our deadwood, such as Jenas, Huddlestone and Bent, as because we're based in London and have a Chairman who backs his manager's with big money, we will have no problem attractive star players to our club. Oh, and you can keep Ashley Young; I'd rather have Ginola back than have such an overated player in our side. Villa twats.... |
Danny-Yid
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... Well... It seems Ashley Young is going to the club he wanted to all along when he was leaving Watford after a detour to Birmingham, the most boring dull city in England (next to Boro). I dont actually hate Villa at all but you need to remember that you have had 1 and a half good seasons and you now think you're somrthing special! You had 2 very good players in Young and Barry, ones gone and the other is going. Agbonlahor is alright when he's on form (which is once every 3 months), Heskey was supposed to be the saviour for Villa (that didn't quite work out), Carew is a has-been who struggles for goals and fitness. In fact looking at ur squad on Skysports.com it looks pretty poor - Goalkeeper: Brad Friedel - good keeper, Stuart Taylor - average, Brad Guzan - average, Luke Young - Tottenham reject, Wilfred Bouma - past it, Curtis Davies - promissing, Zat Knight - lanky and useless, Nicky Shorey - looked decent-ish at Reading but failed to impress me at Villa, Carlos Cuellar - no replacement for Laursen, Stephen O'Halloran - no comment, Eric Lichaj - no comment, Marc Albrighton - no comment, Steve Sidwell - Arsenal/Chelsea reject not good enough, James Milner - England U21 veteran... never got that full cap, Moustapha Salifou - average, Stiliyan Petrov - Looked good... in Scotland, Nigel Reo-Coker - signed for Villa after hearing Spurs were not pursuing their interest (thank God), Craig Gardner - decent free-kick and decent all round defender, Isaiah Osbourne - no comment, Barry Bannan - no comment, Ashley Young - Class act will look good in a Spurs shirt, Marlon Harewood - again waited to hear Spurs weren't interested before signing for Villa, not good enough, John Carew - Can be a handfull on his day (not enough of those), Gabriel Agbonlahor - read last comment, Nathan Delfouneso - no comment (theres a lot of these due to myself not knowing a lot about the youth at Villa and not wanting to unfairly judge the lads who could yet turn out to be world class - not likely though), Emile Heskey - hmmm.... after going over the lot and speaking to other fans around the country its fair to say you DO NOT have a stronger side/squad/starting 11 than Spurs and are about 9 players away from having that. Ashley will come to Spurs and enjoy his football again. You lot seem to fail to recognize that if you hadn't got the points on the board you did early on in the season, you were in relegation form and post-christmas results would have seen you in the Championship now. Good luck Villa, you need it |
Fred
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... Respect to villa, but like somebody mentioned previously, your window of opportunity is closing IMO whereas ours is starting to open. Underestimate us at your peril next season. Anyway, good luck chaps- hopefully we'll have some good battles and at least one of us boots out arsenal next year. UTV and COYS! |
valle
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... Damian Yes they are, you just wont aceept it... Neither Spurs, nor Villa have EVER finished in the top 4 in the EPL and neither of them have EVER played modern day champs league. You are both cup teams and in any case only 4 teams can call themselves bi clubs as it is... Livepool, Chelsea, Manure and the Gunners |
Leroy
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... Fred - Just like Young for Bentley and Jenas (or 8mil that is being reported) makes no sense...... |
Damian
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... valle yes we have finished in the top four in the premier league. maybe spurs haven't, but we have you really cant say that these clubs are bigger than spurs and villa then come out with that and get it so wrong bottom line, what are you basing it on? it cant be where everyone finished, becasue villa and spurs finished above two of those clubs so you must be basing it on history if on history alone - we are the bigger of all those clubs you mentioned everyone has the right to an opinion, but when you back it up with statements that are wrong, it makes your opinion look weak |
Fred
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... Leroy both villa and spurs are bigger clubs than city mate. Harry was referring to city's wage offer when he made that comment about Barry. |
Ex-pro
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... It must be something to do with the Claret and blue!!! You got the gypsys from east london wanting to fight everyone and saying how ard they are talking about they are better then evryone and now....... you boys seriously guys you've a decent side with a goood manager.....dont stoop to the pikies level and slag every other team off in sight just so you have something to be involved in.I think "arry won twice" at Villa Park last year.......if I am not mistaken ! |
p
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... daka yid,u only fill ur ground cuz its so effing small 35 thou full house,u can get that in the holte u stupid yid tw#t... |
Tomst
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... I don't understand why fans of Villa and us (Tottenham) are becoming so aggressive towards each other. Villa did well this season, but missed their opportunity, just like we did with Martin Jol after lasagne-gate. But both sides are on a par, except Tottenham do have the money to back up their manager's wishes. If your Yank put his hands in his pockets then there is no reason why both of us could not knock Arsenal down to 6th. As for this rumour, it's purely paper talk. It's true that Bentley hasn't performed for us, but that's only because he's a Tottenham fan and he's trying too hard. He remains a quality player as proved at Blackburn over many a season. But £8mil plus a £10mil player for Ashley Young, I don't see it. Plus MON wouldn't let him go anyway. Let us stop fighting, it's what Arsenal would want! |
Tomst
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... Dan Wilson, we were indeed 'shit' at one point, but had better form than most for the rest of the season under Harry. Plus your opinion is always undermined by your terrible spelling and grammar. |
Damian
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... Ex-pro I think where this all started was our valuation of Young. We all rate him and most Spurs fans don't rate Bentley and Jenas. There is no doubting, unless we spend some serious money this summer on some real quality, that Spurs and us will be fighting it out for one of the top six places and there is every chance that neither of us will make it if Man City continue to spend and you've got to fancy Everton are a solid top six side now. But we're not slagging teams off but it is to be expected that things get a little off track, especially when both sets of supporters have expectations for next season. |
Damian
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... It should be said, if we are going to start question support, that spurs have a season ticket waiting list consisting of 20,000 names. Maybe not an area we want to be going. |
p
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... danny yid,yeh shit squad we know,but that squad finished above u 4 the last 2 seasons u thick yid tw#t.........AVFC........ |
alan the yid
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... Villa are now pretty much in the same boat we were when we lost carrick to manure. Just when you think you can push on a bigger club (or in this case man shitty) come in and rip the spine out of your team. I was hoping Villa would knock arse out the top 4 but you didn't have the depth and you will struggle to replace Barry Young is great at going past people but his crossing ability is as bad as lennon's so I hope we don't offer stupid money. Besides I reckon MON wouldn't even consider letting him go. Bentley is quality but why it hasn't happened for him at spurs only he knows i suppose..Jenas is a more important player than either of them and I would be sorry to see him leave spurs |
Ex-pro
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... 2shay Gonzo Martin /Spurs two seasons in a row above Vila.........IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.............lmao. Dont be such a child. |
Tomst
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... Alan The Yid, I thought you were saying some good things until you got the the Jenas bit! The guy is dreadful, doesn't tackle or score enough. An athlete, but I'd prefer a footballer. With him out of the team we could have Palacios and Modric in the middle. I hope Villa buy him. |
Seb
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... It's quite funny reading the comments. Both sets of fans are as immature and deluded as the others, with the odd beacon of common sense. Back to the article a deal of Young for Bently, Jenas (or Hudd) and a little cash would probably suit both parties financially. The only quiestion is whether Villa would want to give up Ashley Young because from first hand experience of the "sky 4" pinching our best players even if you get good money they're immpossible to replace. If I were MON I wouldn't sell at any price...hope you do though |
Tom Smith
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... id just like to say its just paper talk there is no backbone to it, i think that MON would not sell young after losing the legend of laursen and the c*nt of barry, wouldnt mind seeing bentley in though, but i like milner so where would he fit in next season. football manager handheld 2009, signed bentley and owen and defour sold barry im 2nd at xmas |
alan the yid
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... Tomst..well you know the bloke is like marmite isn't he..there are times Jenas annoys the hell out of me knowing the player he SHOULD be but with wilson behind him I still believe he will be more dynamic. I can hope can't I..?  |
Ramon Maklouf
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... Villa boys, we better be careful.. You see, Tottenham are having a Redknapp revolution.. The same sort of revolution that brought so much sucess under Jol.. The same almighty revolution that brought them the Cup under Ramos... Hhhm, please forgive if this Spurs Revolution wears a little thin on me.. I'm guessing by Christmas when Redknapp is gone and complains he wasn't giving enough money, the squad wasn't good enough and you start the Steve Bruce/Bernd Schuster/etc revolution in the new year, we will all have to hear how next season will be Spurs.. If these Spurs fans think that this season is going to be different they are deluded. Unlike ManCiteh, you have had 'a sh*tload of money' for a while now and have yet to attain the promised land.. But what do I know.. I'm just a Brummy scum who knows nothing about the 3rd best team.. in London.. |
valle
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... Damian Mate, not be be rude, but you are making points and contradicting them at the same time... True, it was only Spurs that have never finished in the top four, but you need to go back to the early years for villa to finish in the top 4. But the second point about NEITHER of you ever getting into modern day champs league still applies to both teams. So really, who is basing his points on history?... As i said, only 4 teams can be consideres big in the EPL as it is and thats the top 4. The rest are yoyo clubs who move up and down the table. So for us to measure their size we need to look at fan bases, in which case Villa and Spurs are way down compared to other clubs outside the top 4... sorry, but thats the facts |
Martin Clabon
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... Oh god, not another our clubs biggger than your club debate, Dan what hav you started! Still provides some laughs in the close season I suppose |
alan the yid
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... Ramonicus the spurs revolution has worn thin on me too..i'll be happy if we can keep a manager for more than a season at the moment but you can't deny it's better to be the 3rd best behind 2 champions league teams (although arguably) than it is to boast being slightly better than 2 yoyos, a newly promoted wolves and the no hopers that are cov. You surrendered any chance of a uefa cup to try and hang on to 4th place and blew it and now your best player (again arguably) has gone I hope you continue to push the top 4 because somebody needs to crash the party but maybe you need to look at your own predicament first? |
Martin Clabon
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... Fred, our exceptional period was 93 to 10, unfortunately 1893 to 1910! But we will rise again but these things don't happen in a straight line so like Spurs we must expect the odd set back There's many more clubs I'd rather fight with than Spurs - although Redknapp gets right on my tits. I think our 2 teams will be very close next season, depending on signings. We shall see |
Damian
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... valle where am i contradicting myself? honest to god, please show me. you stated we had never finished in the top four of the premier league. okay, you said EPL, but that is what it means. well, we have. in fact, we've finished as high as liverpool ever have in the premier league. does that mean we are the same size club as liverpool? i ask, because that was the basis for your position. but yes, you are right, we've never played in the 'modern champions league' but because everton flirted with it for one season doesn't make them bigger than us. the point is you said everton, leeds and newcastle were bigger than spurs and villa and you used the fact that we had never finished in the top four as the basis for your position. you cant start adding/changing your position after you've left it. you've got to make sure that your position is correct when you post it. |
Dan Price
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... Scott – Funny as f**k with the lion thing! Luka – Nottingham Forrest did well a while back too, whats your point. General idiots – Is you money coming from the club or your Yiddish money lending ways? Young is worth about £25-28m Realistically as Englands best left winger - Bentley £9m Jenas £12m - you like your money lending and finance so you work out the change. We were 1/10 to finish in the top 4 at one point last season when all was to fight for and injuries, notably to Laursen killed us. What is your excuse for such a shit start to the season? You managed to overtake those with nothing to fight for at the end… well done you – now get back to the synagogue. |
Daniel Wilson
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... Tomst,jesus mate, who takes the time to proof read blog posts. This is just a bit of banter, not an A-level assignment. you need to get out the house, lighten up a bit. I love spurs fans, you can have a right pop and get it back just as hard & take it up the chin. It's all in good jest, i've had a lot of fun reading this blog this morning fair play to one and all involved  |
Ramon Maklouf
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... alan the yid, fair comment. I have never said we are in a better position to progress then you guys are. I think it is all a matter of how each team starts this season.. The team with the better start, I think will really push the top4, as the cracks continue to show in Arsenal, and now Liverpool. I think Tottenham have great potential. The talent at your disposal is very impressive and with a fit Defoe and Keane, I see great potential there.. But potential is nothing without consistency.. I actually like Tottenham. They were a team I enjoyed following as a neutral supporter and was hoping they would break the top4 under Jol.. To be honest, they sign players that would make fans look up and take notice. But this jibberish about how your club is far better then Villa is just that... jibberish.. We are evenly matched teams and form is the key to where our respective teams finish. That is beating the promoted teams, and performing consistently against mid-table teams as well as doing the job against the big4.. With the right signings, Tottenham, like Villa are not that far from a top-four finish.. Hopefully both teams crack the elusive 'sky 4' and play in the Champions League next season? We can dream! |
Ken Bonker
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... Ash Young can't be sold for whatever, or whoever in a swap, we need to strengthen not keep losing our best players to sign average wannabes, ffs we need some quality players brought in, I'm getting sick of the ones we're linked with, might be a lot of rumours, but from past experience they ain't far wide of the mark. |
Nel-A
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... Tomst said: "...Let us stop fighting, it's what Arsenal would want!" Agreed mate! I don't have any real affection for Spurs, but I respect them for being a big club, (like them or not: they are - so are we). Villa, Spurs and Everton will be in and around the same spots for me, just off the top 4. About Young: he's been probably the main reason Villa have scored so many goals over the last few seasons. So Spurs fans, if you're wondering why we're saying Bentley +£8mill isn't enough - that's why! Valle, mate check your history: (not that I particularly care) Villa *have* finished in the top 4 in the "EPL" (clearly you're Scottish). If we're talking history, then check Wikipedia for the histories of Leeds, Newcastle and whoever else you mentioned, then check Villa's and Spurs. I think you may be surprised mate. Far bigger clubs and with the trophy cabinets to match. |
Danspur
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... There's some utter nonsense being written on here, by supporters of both sides. 1. This whole thing was started by some tabloid talk with no direct quotes or evidence 2. The 'my cock's bigger than your cock' thing is pointless. Any one of Spurs, Villa, Newcastle, Everton, Man City could argue they are bigger, using different rationale. Even Forest could. 3. Next season, barring one of them having a shocking season, the top 4 will remain the top 4. Spurs, Villa, Everton & City will be battling for the Europa places and teams like Pompey, Fulham and West Ham will hoping to sneak in there too. 4. There is no real footballing reason why Young would come to Spurs, but as the Barry saga proves, money talks. However, I can't see Spurs offering what Villa would want (or much higher wages), even assuming they do want him 5. Bentley is at the wrong club at the wrong time. Tottenham would probably take £10m for him 6. Jenas is an incredibly frustrating player. He has 5 or 6 excellent games a season (usually against the top 4) to show how good he could be, but is too often mediocre. 7. Why do people take the opinions of what twats right on blogs like this as typical of their club? I know that most Villa fans are reasonable people, with a decent knowledge of football, just as most Spurs fans know that we'd be delighted to get 5th or a cup next season. Unfortunately, most people posting on the net are attention-seeking imbeciles (myself excepted, obviously!). It does make me laugh when people slag off Spurs fans for unrealistic expectations in one sentence and then say that we should do much better after spending so much money in the next. Good luck next season Villa. You'll need it, as will we Good luck next season to Villa. You'll need it as will we. |
tim timerton
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... This article os from the sun. Whoever wrote this blog is a toss faced plonker. end of |
Martin Clabon
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... well said Danspur, vice of reason. PS you've never won the big one - only joking! |
Damian
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... tim timerton and i've no idea what a toss faced plonker is, but i suspect you are twat |
Nel-A
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... Also, at the risk of sounding like a vicar or a hippy, can we not go down the anti-semetic route please?! I'm not religious at all, but it's not really on. If you don't like Spurs fans, fair enough - go nuts, but bear in mind we're all footy fans. Cheers, up the Villa! |
beyethegreat
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... well about the debate of big clubs it depends on the criteria of a big club if you are talking about trophies then villa are i think the 4th most succesful club in the country and spurs 6th but i would imagine spurs have a bigger fanbase as a toon ffan i do think we are a big club as the 7th most succesful club but especially with the size of our fanbase etc i think we have more potential |
alan the yid
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... Ramonicus yep absolutely..we can all dream or what's the point? Ive enjoyed some of Villa's performances over the last couple of seasons and MON really knows his stuff even if he can send me to sleep. I see us as pretty much even matched clubs too and both that on their day play some exciting attacking football Its just a shame about that claret and blue..reminds me of something really nasty |
Ramon Maklouf
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... Alan the yid I didn't chose the colours mate. But what can you do? I enjoy Tottenham.. I hope they break the topfour, if we don't, or Everton.. Don't really want ManCiteh in there though, and I don't think they will be if I'm honest.. Every team has to play to their strengths tho alan.. I mean, counter-attacking football is what got us to 4th, and but for a couple of dud decisions made in the backend of the season, we could have been playing the likes of Juve, Madrid and Bayern next season.. beyethegreat, Well, to be honest, out of the three, you guys probably have the best chance of some silverware next season .. if your players are 'up for it'.. |
beyethegreat
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... ramoncious lol in all honesty i would still say all 3 teams have equal chance of silverware i mean things arent looking good for us to even do well in the championship but ill keep hopin |
Martin Clabon
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... Peace is beaking out, which is great. Got to agree with Nel-A though, we need to be real careful about anti Jewish language even if most using it are not intending it as any more than a dig at spurs - we can't go down that route. |
Michael
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... MaxTHFC- you said - If it hadn't been for our dreadful start we would've finished above you without question. well if thats your argument for last season, if villa never had a dreadful end to the season we would have finished somewhere in the top 4, not just miles above spurs. |
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... Spuds fans have to be the most deluded set of fans in the country. The reason you continually have to tell everyone how big a club you are is because you haven't been successful for over 20 years. I'm a Man City fan and we haven't been successful for 30 years. The only difference between City and Spuds is that our successful period was 10 years before yours. Villa are the same. What makes Spurs fans think that they are bigger and better than Everton, City, Villa etc is beyond me...? Also villa fans, it's hilarious how now that Barry has gone to one of your rivals he is suddendly shit, can't pass, tackle shoot etc. It really is laughable. I think Spurs will have another yoyo season the next. It's laughable how they criticise Wenger for saying that he is continually building a team for the future, when Spurs are continually going to get in the top four 'next' year. Brillian. Spurs will try and fail for top 6 next year, Villa might just make it, Everton probably will and I expect City to be very strong next year. Footy fans need to get over themselves. Support your teams by all means, but arguing over who is the bigger club...? Really is pathetic. |
testie
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... Spurs think they are bigger than they are. You have no real History as a club and the only reason you have support is because you can't afford to go watch Chelsea or Arsenal. Villa last two season have been a much better team, you seemed to be making progress under Jol but then you went and f**ked it up. Harry will f**k the club over when a bigger pay day comes where he can make some more money of bungs and dodgy dealings. You have a crook running your team and a bunch of w****rs for support. |
Blend
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... 'If it hadn't been for our dreadful start we would've finished above you without question.' What a quote! If my aunty had balls, she'd be my uncle. The fact is you didn't you f**king moron! |
Damian
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... Right. I'm locking comments on this post now, it's getting stupid. As someone pointed out above, we do know who will finsih in the top four and we do know that us, Spurs, Man City and Everton will be fighting for the following four. It's not difficult these days. |
Bournemouth Yid
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... Well we are in the silly season and there will be loads of rumours for the next 3 mths. However we football fans do get rather wxcited easily and certainly get carried away. Villa fans are well respected and I have no issus with them, but careful your illusions of grandeur are not becoming and not attractive. Careful who you compare yourselves with, as it will create envy and in the end frustration and disappointment. MON often complains about the size of his squad, and about the amoints of money he has to spend - before you laugh at these deals think very carefully. |
Blend
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... Very intelligent observation on my name there testie. Or should I say 'test tube baby' ba dum dum tsh. I have nothing against Villa at all, I was just making a point that it's funny how suddenly Barry is a terrible player. Sorry I offended you. |
testie
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... Blend- Just a little joke chief, i'm sure your not and you make some sense, all of us outside the top four (everton, spurs, man city, villa) have had no real success (winning league) for the last 20 or so years. With a run any of the for mentioned teams could break into or at least threaten to crack the top 4 which will make the season more interesting. I would say at the moment Everton are in the strongest position, followed by man city with all that cash (but then could f**k it up buying too many big time charlies) but all this could change depending on who Villa sign and the impact they have. Spurs will be relegated when the FA docks them points for being a bunch of w****rs. |
SiBo
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... I can understand the fear of the Villains, their best player (barry, a Spurs fan by the way) has left them for a club I would regard below Aston Villa & Tottenham regarding history and stature and you 'could' lose your young starlet, who is the best outside of Barry in your team, to another club that is one of main rivals, so your fear is real. But don't get ahead of yourselves!!! Villa a bigger club than Spurs? One better season than us, doesn't necessarily make you a better and bigger club/team. Considering the start we had, look how close we came to you at the end and you HAD your best players with you! Spurs on the other hand had a depleted team mixed with allot of new players throughout the season - looking at it like that, you still think you are better? the honest view, would be both rteams are more or less the same level, but Spurs are more attractive for the location and what is fact is we are allot richer and a bigger fanbase. I think you will see a role reversal next season with Spurs above the villains. With Young on our left and sh*t Jenas in claret & blue, I think spurs will have a better chance of finishing higher up the leageue than villa! |
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