Written by Jerry Sunday, 01 November 2009 13:05
Liverpool lose again to a mid-table side and finish the match with nine men. What does this have to do with Aston Villa? Apart from a competitor for a top four place descending into chaos, not a lot really. But anyone who says it’s not funny to watch has no true sense of schadenfreude.
It’s a terrible thing to say but I enjoy it almost as much as watching the Villa win.
The horror of Halloween kicked off earlier in the day when Redknapp had to watch the pantomime at the Emirates. The Gooners are awesome at the moment, but Wilson Palacios decided they needed some help. Cesc Fabregas’ goal was a comedy routine all by itself; it was like a football game in an amusement arcade as Spurs defenders threw themselves to the ground and Fabregas zigzagged round them.
Rednapp’s face was a picture of barely controlled fury. Professionals on sixty grand a week were playing parks football.
But I digress; the topic of the day is Red Rafa Benitez. Liverpool fans are openly speculating that he’s screwing things up so that he’ll get the tin-tack and he can take the job at Real Madrid. The problem with this is that the restaurant employee has just signed a new contract and terminating it will cost Liverpool £20 million. That’s proper money.
The idea that he’s doing this deliberately would be silly were it not that everything the waiter does as Liverpool manager is bizarre. Benitez is losing the plot. Liverpool go behind against Fulham, the genius of Torres brings them level, and in the search for the winner what does the waiter do? He takes off Torres. They go 2-1 down and he took off Benayoun – Benayoun was the only dangerous player after Torres had gone. He then brought on a nonentity. You can’t write this stuff.
Any psychologist watching the game would have recognised the signs – Benitez is on the verge of a mental breakdown. During the match he wanders around his technical area constantly muttering to the players and making feeble gestures. Since he’s not shouting no one can possibly hear him and, since the players are presumably concentrating on the game, no one can see the gestures.
In the jargon, it’s ‘displacement activity’ and its purpose is to give the appearance of control in a situation that is chaotic. You want to put your arms round him (metaphorically speaking, of course) and comfort him.
It will soon be official. Benitez is a nutter.
In the strictest interpretation of The Mental Health Act 2007 (section 8, paragraph 4), Liverpool F.C., in their continuing act of employing Benitez as club manager, are guilty of ‘mental cruelty’. He should be released from his contract immediately and taken to an asylum.
After the match, approaching the vicinity of a Sky microphone, the waiter stopped, put down a pile of dirty plates on a table, and addressed the camera. “We shall appeal the sending’s off”. It doesn’t get much better than this. History is being made, a great institution crumbles to the ground, and Benitez invokes more displacement activity.
Gillet and Hicks twist in the wind. What to do? Pay the twenty million and go deeper into financial distress? Or keep the lunatic and destroy ourselves?
Sometimes life is sweet.
Oh yeah, Aston Villa. I thought the boys done good. Including Sidwell. We survived Halloween.
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Steve
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... Im looking forward to seeing us without Milner to be honest on Wednesday, as much as I like his work rate he just isnt remotely threatening going forward, his crossing and ability to take players on just isnt there. Albrighton i doubt will be given a run out so instead possibly Gabby will go right wing, which altho he lacks crossing, his pace will scare the hell out of west ham. And will give us a threat down both flanks. Wouldnt be surprised if we see the team that ended yesterdays game but with Young in for Cuellar..(personally would prefer NRC in for Sidwell to). Come on villa, bring back 3 points to VP! |
Damian
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... jonnycarew i'd love marc albrighton to get a run .. but you just know that o'neill will play milner the moment he is fit and might even use this as an opportunity to play heskey and carew up front with gabby on the right ... the man wanted to play heskey at centre back. could it be that o'neill is cracking up too? |
James
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... Yes indeed. We were discussing, during yesterday's game, whether it was possible that Liverpool could implode. Properly? All around me, Everton fans were more interested in tht Fulham game than the one they were watching. My mate asked, what is to stop them becoming a mid table side? Money? They have none. History? Counts for diddly squat. I think, and whisper this very quietly, they are on their way down and as we, of all fans know, it is one hell of a climb to get back up there. This Saturday will be seen like the reomoval of the 1st stones from the Berlin wall and your gruesome joy, Jerry, is wholly apopropriate. |
Steve
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... I agree Albrighton should be given a run in the team if milner is injured, with Luke Young behind him at right back we would remain solid. Otherwise what was the point of the kid excelling in pre-season and then to stunt his development by not playing him. If thats the case, then loan him out for a season. For me he has pace and an ability to whip a ball in while on the run, and i fully believe with him whipping balls in J Carew would have an absolute field day! |
VillaNick
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... It goes to show how much Rafa's head kitchen staff hand, Gerrard that is, is vital to them. For us, if Petrov, Dunne, Gabby, or Young get injured, it probably won't have the same effect on us than Liverpool losing "their Stevie". |
Bobby Park
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... The Liverpool situation is hilarious almost on a par with Newcastle, how will we all cope if they go out of the Champions league and we don't have any more 'special european nights at Anfield' ? With a bit of luck they'll go into freefall and the Merseyside suburbs will be full of kids wearing Coventry, Swindon, and Yeovil shirts, if only !!! |
The Truth Hurts
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... Aston Villola competing with Liverpool? don't make me laugh. Villa always have been and always will be strictly smalltime. Remember last year, 'cos we all do, your clubs pathetic attempt to align themselves with the top 4, most of us are still laughing. Joke club, joke fans, joke manager, enjoy the Europa. |
Matthew Clark
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... If Benitez is crazy for taking the likes of benyaoun and torres off, surely that makes oneill nutters for playing sidwell week in week out? |
James
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... Oh dear Jerry, it seems you've uncovered a few depressed scousers. (Sorry, I meant Liverpool fans - let's face it they're unlikely to be scousers, aren't they?) |
jerry
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... I've just checked Liverpool Newsnow and the article is linked. Probably gonna get a tad abusive. Sorry about that |
King VOGRA
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... Ok, so we're going to expect the Mickey Mouse Liverpool fans to come on here.. 1)If your not from the Liverpool area your opinion means nothing..did you get that NOTHING!! 2)Support your local side 3)So called "Best fans in the world" waaaahahahahahahaha, don't make me laugh. We may not finish in the Top 4, but you fcuking need to guys..and you won't, you'll be lucky to scrape into the Top 6.... |
The Pool
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... It speaks volumes about the success and stature of football clubs when the only joy it´s fans get out of the sport is watching and revelling in the misery of bigger and better clubs....... |
paul mclafferty
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... the truth hurts... i feel sorry for you as you are obviously a glory hunter who started supporting liverpool in the late 70s early 80s when you didnt want to support your local side plymouth. |
paul mclafferty
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... if the mighty kop was so load with the best supporters in the world then why do they have to play 'youll never walk alone ' to get the crowd singing along to it??????? FACT... |
neil57
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... Brilliant post. The deluded scousers who think they will finish above us, attend your end of season bash this afternoon. You could not even beat Arsenal's 2nd team. Jerry/Churchill hit it on the head. The fools gave the FTW a huge contract, they,too, are mental. My chum,who loved ribbing me about the red Barry no.6 shirt, agrees. Newcastle, Leeds mark three. Aston Villa is a great, well respected club, unfortunately not fashionable, like Man utd. SAF must be laughing himself silly at the Anfield goings on. I am really enjoying this topic. Bring it on, scousers  UTV |
Cally
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... Liverpool doing badly is the equivalent of a trophy for Villa fans and their pitiful CL delusions these days. How the, err, not so mighty have fallen. Where they get that we are their rivals from is beyond me. They're a nothing club and not fit to sniff the shit off our scouse boots. Plus you have that horrendous accent. |
The Meat Rack
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... Haha our accent is bad !!! Calm down lad, I nearly laughed me shell suit off then.. |
Steve Badger
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... Well the post says it all really doesn't it? And sorry scouse reds, but it is funny to watch. I do however have some sympathy. We had our own clown of an owner for a long time. That said, I don't want to see your club ruined, just out of the top 4 to give someone else a chance. Mind you, I think that about all the top 4 clubs. Looks like it could happen this season but anything can happen and it would only take some rich arab to turn things around. As said though, it would take serious money. It just goes to show how important Alonso was to Pool, imo. |
Eoin Greene
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... Jerry - addmittedly poor defending from Spurs but I have to say Fabregas isn't get half enough credit for what was an unbelievable goal. I had a good bet on Arsenal for the league at the start of the season and I think it'll be them or Chelsea. Liverpools plight is not a totally suprising one, they are completely reliant on Torres and to a lesser extent Gerrard. Aquilani is a good player though so no doubt they will eventually get their act together. I think Benitez's biggest mistake was getting rid of Alonso - he used to run the show for Liverpool. For me wednesday is a big night for MoN, not result wise but in team selection. If Gabby, Reo-Coker or Gardner play right wing -I will lose whatever bit of patience I had left in him. For three years we played players out of position and this summer we were led to believe that we had multiple players for every position. If Albrighton does not START on wednesday - he will NEVER EVER be given a proper chance by O'Neill . It will confirm my belief that MoN does not give youth a chance (unless bought for big sums from elsewhere). It will confirm MoN's 'favourites' policy. Whats the bet that Cuellar doesn't get back into the team until Luke Young gets injured. It seems almost impossible to play your way off the starting 11. |
jerry
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...Whats the bet that Cuellar doesn't get back into the team until Luke Young gets injured. eoin There's plenty on here that would settle for that. |
Steve Badger
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...Whats the bet that Cuellar doesn't get back into the team until Luke Young gets injured. Why do I have a sneaky feeling that Luke won't start against West Ham? I know it's totally illogical, but it's just a feeling. |
Mike Carter
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... Great stuff. In a way I agree, it's twisted, but I get almost as much pleasure out of seeing Liverpool lose as I do Villa win. |
Dan Clinton
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... I wouldn't necessarily like to see Liverpool completely explode, but I do like the Anfield saga makes it a fair chance that either us, Man City or Tottenham will get Champion League - and not at the expense of Arsenal who are my personal favourites of the 'Top 4'. Naturally I'd love it it was Villa who triumphed, but a bit of change would be a welcome change. The antics at Liverpool are us Villa fans vicarious revenge for their pursuit of, and attempt to sign of, Barry. A Liverpool fan friend of mine at the time said he couldn't understand why they were attempting to sign Barry at Alonso's expense. The fact they now have neither and appear to be crumbling is simply glorious! |
Dan Clinton
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...but a bit of change would be a welcome change. Sorry, meant to say a bit of change up their would be very welcome |
greg1982
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... ‘History is being made, a great institution crumbles to the ground, and Benitez invokes more displacement activity.’ How boring is all this, and sets in context many of our problems. It’s depressing when we find the need to talk down other teams. Moreover, I’m sure Liverpool are above us in the league? And they can pass! What I’m looking for from our beloved lions is the day when we are as dissatisfied as the scousers with mediocre football. They will finish well above us unless we shore up our pedestrian (central) midfield. Leave them alone. Their nemesis across the park gave us a game yesterday with their top players missing. If they get them back it will be 8th this year unless MON gets his finger out. And now we’ve got to the point where we need the Bluenoses to do us a favour. We live in interesting times. Now or never MON. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Remember lads; they're not English, they're Scouse And on top of that they're living in a time warp where they believe everything is done 'The Liverpool Way' Most of them still think Benitez is wonderful though. They see him as a hero fighting the big bad owners on their behalf. It fits in well with their most appealing characteristic - the Scouse Victim Mentality. Benitez of course plays the Scouse Mob like Marc Anthony played the Roman Mob. How else would this underachieving muppet have got a £20mil contract. Let's face it Scousers; A Champions League & An FA Cup. Both won several years ago Both won on penalties & Both won after miracle performances from Gerrard, without whom Benitez would have won nothing at Liverpool. |
Ammar
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...if the mighty kop was so load with the best supporters in the world then why do they have to play 'youll never walk alone ' to get the crowd singing along to it??????? I thought that used to be Celtic's theme tune ? |
Ammar
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...If Gabby, Reo-Coker or Gardner play right wing -I will lose whatever bit of patience I had left in him So will many of us just very frustrating... |
THE AV VILLAN
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... Agreed!! Albrighton HAS to start!!!! Even if it does mean that Carew and Heskey start!!!! UTV!!! |
neil57
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... Do those silly scousers not realise that the whole Barry debacle was to their detriment? Which team has more talent, Citeh or Pool? Great comment re the penalties. They were 500/1 at half time. BTW, was Ancelloti at Milan then? Are we making pathetic comments like the Pool fans? They rubbish us,we are far more popular. MON, give the young talented ones a chance this week and put a lot of us out of our misery. UTV |
Devon Villan
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... 4th place IS up for grabs. Citeh looked average today. Spuds, Liverpool not to be feared & there for the taking. Last season was the golden opportunity; wasn't it blatant that when things weren't going well that we needed to freshen the team up and use the 'squad'? Deja-Vu? I'm with you, Damian, MON talks about rotation but will he? Yesterday we used more or less the same players that had 120 mins of tough footie a few days before. Am I surprised we didnt win? No. If he isn't bold, we'll be pottering around 5th/6th and then have a downward spiral from February. Again. How bold are you, MON? Try something different. If it doesn't work, OK but at least we tried. Everton to me are case in point. No matter if 10/11 out, the squad have that inner belief they can do a job. Bet it comes from their gaffer who I absoluteloy admire. Don't bet against them being in contention for 4th. Look at their league placings in recent yrs. Finally, don't have a go at me guys for living in Devon. It takes 3.5 hrs to get home from Villa Park. 2 hrs on motorway but 1.5 to get outta the secure parking! On the plus side, if my boy sez he likes Chelsea ever again, I can lob him off the side of the boat to be eaten by the fishes (not an option in Kingstanding) UTV |
FatKevs
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... U R having a laugh 4th place is not something we can look at. Talk is cheap, at least Mon has stabilized the central defence after pissing off OM losing GC. Bringing in very average players like ZK & CD was a joke I cannot remember 1 game we have controlled even when teams have gone down to 10men. We can only exploit their mistakes on an occasion. If we did make Europe we do not have the funds to build a squad capable of challenging on two fronts or getting past the 1st round. The Yank has done bugger all in attracting investment into the club , chairman mow over the road at least has a dream of getting the Chinese on his side we have no vision except trying not to lose & replacing loyal fans with corporate fans |
Deano-avfc
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... ha ha loving the scouse abuse... Good Mooning! Everyone is pi55ing themselves at you. Villa for 4th and a cup. Liverpool for 8th UTV |
Greg
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... i agree after the barry thing i detest liverpool, and after the heek of redknapp berating the villa fans i wish the 50p hadnt hit the linesman put a jumbo jet hit redknapp into the face, the only thing there would be no surviors on the plane and redknapp would come out good looking. on villa i think the results went brilliantly for us and it proves one thing this league has got tougher. I watched the blues and hets off to them they were brilliant against city and done us a favour plus they booed the shit out of barry who was f**king crap and beaten off most balls. I was sitting there thinking look at the crowd clubs are putting our supporters to shame. Plus maybe we are a bit arroganr if i was sitting there watching b;mingham or fulham play like that against me and every1 would be calling for heads to roll. we got to accept we are not real madrid but a pretty decent club on the up. we have no right to beat any1 on there day. after watching everton supporters id love to see it down the villa, and wonder how much it would inspire our players, maybe we have a duty as the 12th man that we are performing, if we could be substitued we be off after 10 mins cuz after the first mistake we have no fight and the heads go down. Its gone be a 3 horse race for the title man u chelsea arsenal will be there, itll be a 4 maybe even a five horse race 4 4th liverpool, villa, everton, spurs, man city, and 7 horse race for 6th sunderland maybe fulham also push us 4 looking for the 4th spot. Please dont be offened if you think im having a moan but we have to look at ourselves as supporters and get off our high horse, its not what your club can do for you, but what you can do for your club. UTV |
Steve Badger
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...chairman mow over the road at least has a dream of getting the Chinese on his side Chairman "Mow" will prove a disaster for the noses. And if "the yank" is so poor, why is he held up as a beacon of how it should be done by pundits and other club's supporters alike? I sometimes wonder what planet you're on, tbh. |
Greg
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... can i make one more point? Still alot on here against martin oneill, but the fact we are looking at manu's chelsea, arsenal, liverpool mancity spurs and evertons results is testament, before he and lerner came in we looking at boltons, derbys, blackburns and all the other teams in a relegation dogfights results hoping they's lose so we wudnt be suckd into the mire. I often get angry too but im begging to put things into perspective i wish others couls have the maturity to do so too. We are putting our players under too much presssure, aall this bollocks of not accepting less. If you went into work in the morning and the top 200 people in your profession were there and your boss told you he expected you be the best, thats pressure enough, but to go home and listen to your family tell you your crap, you performed terrible, you should be sacked etc its gona knock the shit out your confidence, and you'd be feeling lonely because your family should be there for you to build your condidence, to pick you up when your down. Well we fans are the family of the club and ye'r a f**king disgrace, if that was the home i had to return to every night i think id get depressed, become and alco and lose my job, or in this get relegated. ye all have no heart and are mostly a pathetic bunch of ungratefull retards |
Mike Carter
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... Fatkev Talk is cheap, at least Mon has stabilized the central defence after pissing off OM losing GC. Not very accurate in my view. Cahill was never in the first team so it was hardly something that needed "stabilizing" after he went. Mellberg had slowly declined into an average defender at best. Not a massive loss. Bringing in very average players like ZK & CD was a joke Knight did a job and was sold on for profit. Davies got an England call up before his injury - you don't do that by being average. Give him another chance. I cannot remember 1 game we have controlled even when teams have gone down to 10men Yet where are we in the league? A game away from 4th place. We're having a tremendous start and have only lost 2 games. You have to look at both sides of the coin. If we did make Europe we do not have the funds to build a squad capable of challenging on two fronts or getting past the 1st round. The Yank has done bugger all in attracting investment into the club This is a tired argument with no grounds. Since Lerner arrived, we have the 4th highest net spend per season in the Premiership. If that's not your idea of investment, what is? |
VDV
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... we need a player like barry. box to box with energy, and who can find a killer pass and just generally moves the ball round the pitch. sidwell is not good enough, reo is not that type of player. petrov could be but what do we with the role he has now. January big cash. up to 20 mil. a center mid and a striker who gets goals, jo maybe. clear outs, gardner hesky shorey. maybe reo OR sidwell. |
Edward Riordan
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... It's a long season but 4th is well up for grabs now. Us, Spurs and Citeh have an excellent chance. Liverpool are digging there own grave atm....... Topped of being knocked out of CL on this week! |
keith
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... its not so long ago when the pool fans were gloating that when pool want a player they just have to bid because they are so mighty that no one would refuse them. how things change in such a short space of time, judas took the eight pieces of silver and a pool fan said sack fsw and get the special one but then commented that he probably wouldnt want to come to anfield  |
Stock
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... What makes me laugh most is that that dick Lawro will still keep predicting them to win! hahahahahaha ticket at shitfield - £35 petrol cost - £40 watching the scouse w@nkers implode - PRICELESS |
Keith
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... Brilliant post Jerry.......lets hope Liverpool dont want Martin O'Neill to replace the Fat Spanish Waiter.... |
Steve Badger
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... I don't think he'd want to go there atm keef. But of course give him £100 mill to spend and it would probably be a different story. I'm not sure the fans would want him though if they'd seen our footy lately  |
Dan Clinton
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... VDV, where did you go wrong??? Consistently suggesting we buy Vagner Love and Van Der Vaart - together with whatever other high profile player grabs your attention - ON A BLOG that, chances are, MON pays no attention to, is not going to make Villa any more likely to sign these players. My impression is that you are precisely the kind of fan who MON regards as a "Championship manager" fan. Support the team! We are not playing brilliantly, but at the same time we aren't doing too badly results wise either! |
John Clark
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... Great post, Jerry. It really is good fun to watch. As for the Villa, well, it's sort of odd. We've become much harder to beat, yet we're not playing particularly good football and could still go fourth. Reason for optimism, cause for despair? If nothing else, the weekend's results show that no single point, let alone three, can be taken for granted in the EPL this season. Like many, I often struggle to understand some of MON's decisions, and although I think I can discern the rationale(s), I don't always agree. I would agree that Villa haven't kicked on this season in terms of the quality of football, and am a bit concerned. And yet... |
David Griffin
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... Why does MON get so much derision? We just drew a squad that finished above us last year. We are in the quarters of Carling cup. We just beat chelsea three games ago and yet the doom and gloom just persist. Last year we finished within shouting distance of a TOP 4 finish. We lose our best player over the summer and yet we pick up right where we left off last season challenging for a TOP 4 finish. This summer MON bought our midfielder of the future in Delph, got us a class winger for 12 mil that the Pool got quoted for 18, and built the most rock solid defense in the prem and yet we toss names out there of replacement managers. We are going to lose some games that we definitely should win and then we can all feel righteously gutted and sad. Until then lets stay high on the boys. They fought hard for that point after playing 120 minutes not even 4 four days ago. Lets not be so dismissive of even the smallest victories. |
Steve Badger
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...We just drew a squad that finished above us last year. We are in the quarters of Carling cup. We just beat chelsea three games ago and yet the doom and gloom just persist. Last year we finished within shouting distance of a TOP 4 finish It'a perfectly good point and sums up why it's such a dilemma, for me anyway. You can't fault our start to the season much, but the footy is just abysmal to watch of late. I'm a big supporter of MON and I think 86 English clubs would beg him to come to their place. But at the same time, I also understand where the moaners are coming from. Well, for the last few games anyway. My take is that you either have faith or you don't. I do. But we'll see at the end of the season. We have a few players not clicking and I want to see at least a bit of tinkering. Even if it's only the odd few minutes. MON is starting to get a rep for having favourites and whatever your opinion of him, that's simply wrong, imo. They fought hard for that point after playing 120 minutes not even 4 four days ago Yes, that's a good point. |
Faccundo
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... Damo I know where your anger is coming from but you are misdirecting it at MON, one of the finest managers in the Premiership (and the best in the world that we are currently able to attract). The figure of our scorn, derision and ire should be tightarse Lerner and his propaganda minister "30m pound signing" "European champions" General Goebbel, oh im sorry Krulak, who constantly lie to the fans about our ambition. I mean next article up is somebody experiencing schadenfreud over Liverpool's demise but they've still had a net spend of 4 times more than us over recent years. If tightarse Lerner can bring himself to prise open that notoriously closed wallet of his, he SHOULD BUY MAREK HAMSIK WHO I'VE BEEN SHOUTING ABOUT FOR 11 MONTHS NOW AND JUST SCORED A BRACE TO LEAD THE PARTENOPEI TO AN AWAY VICTORY AGAINST JUVE Damian, Hamsik is the answer to our lack of creativity in midfield Get on the "HAMSIK FOR VILLA" CAMPAIGN NOW!!!!! ----> YES WE BLOODY WELL CAN!!! |
Nick
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... Im beginning to truly believe that Rafa is a pretty mediocre manager. Where would he be without Gerrard? He would have won shit all to be honest, 3 or 4 good signings does not make up for the 20 or so awful ones. He has wasted so much money and time at Liverpool. I hope he stays! The owners are only half of the problem there, im surprised Rafa has not caught more flak up to now. Anyways I dont think albrighton will start. My bet would be Gabby on the right wing, or Heskey on the left wing and ashley on the right. Either of these options would work imo. Although I would prefer if Albrighton got a chance I am just fairly certain that he wont. With that said when Gabby use to play on the right he terrorized the shit out of whatever fullback he was up against. I remember in the 4-4 with chelsea a few years ago he just embarrassed ashley cole all game long. So I dont think he is a terrible option on the wing, it's more of the negatives of taking him out of the striker role imo. |
Andi
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... We beat West Spam and we go fourth I fancy an EMULE goal for this one £5 on EMULE to score and Villa to win 2-0, EMULE and Carew.....Not long now and we have a new signing DOWNING, that will freshen things up a little and maybe wake a few players up. Downing is going to be fired up when he comes back. Its not even January and we got a new signing how good is that ! |
paul
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... It was funny as Hell but I'd rather we beat Everton. Watch Liverpool win their next match with ease. One of the top four are ALWAYS in crisis. It'll be Arsenal next. |
robb david
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... Liverpool are funny, it is pretty clear that the top 3 will be arsenal, chelsea and man u, with us, spurs and man city fighting for that illusive 4th spot. On another note, adn this may have been done already, but Emile Hesky? In every professional footballer you can see something that the average man cant do. gabby, is fast, ashley young has a wonderful delivery, sidwell can time a shot beautifully, reo coker works himself into the ground, curtis davis can tackle. I started with some of our best and moved towards some of our less favored players to illustrate the point that they all can do something that the average pub player cant. What is heskys attribute? He is slow, he doesnt work hard, he cant finish, he cant pass, he has no control, he cant head the ball, he cant tackle, he doesnt read the game, he isnt that strong, I have seen nothing from him that would suggest anyone of the players i see playing on the local park couldnt or wouldnt do for £1000 a week. Sorry if this has been done before, but i just about lost it at everton, he frustrates the hell out of me, is there a forward in the league that anyone would not prefer over hesky? |
robb david
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... Oh and the Everton result was pretty poor, they were bad, we were equally bad, but i said if we can take 4 points from everton and west ham thats a decent return. We should get the 3 against west ham, and i fansy us to do so, there style of play should suit us, as long as we dont haev to sit through 90 mins of emule, i fancy a win, as long as dunne/collins can cope with cole, which i fancy they will. |
robb david
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... You know what chief i would give you that one if he actually ever fell over and won a free kick, Im pretty sure his floor time to free kick ratio has got to be the worst in the league. Also if anyone can get the stats on floor time to free kick ratio they can have a pie. |
Andi
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... Dunne and Collins will deal with EMULE mk2, which is waht Cole is becomming with one very subtle difference, he can score. We need an early goal against West Ham, and for all the stick i give him I fancy EMULE to get a goal and i hope he does i really do or no one will want to buy him in January |
robb david
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... On what do you base this bold assumption that the hesk will score a goal? The law of averages which suggests if you stand in the wrong place for long enough, it will eventually become the right place and the ball may bounce off the back of his head with out him noticing, resulting in a goal? |
robb david
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... no its not on tv, champions league is being shown, apparantly man u, barcelona, real madrid, pull more viewers than the mighty villa, i cant see it myself. Hour long highlights show on sky at 10:30 though, which is good. Or could go for an illegal stream, there should be a couple about. |
Andi
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... EMULE will score it is his destiny, it is becoming tiresome waiting for him to score and even more tiresome giving him abuse, we all no what he is and that he is and never was the signing we needed but while he is gracing us with his silky loafers we might as well get something out the lard. Plus he needs to be putting him self in the shop window and not pound strecher either. I hope the big lump pulls a goal out from somewhere even if Sidwell miss kicks at it hits Heskey in the arse and goes in i dont care. Plus he has the added incentive that the player after his England spot is playing for them and Fabio might be there so EMULE will be playing with a hard on knowing that his England spot could be going to Cole |
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... ronrabbit, I believe it was I suggested a point at Goodison and that 4 points from the next two would be a good return and you were on me like a you were a somalian and I was an aid worker with a bag of rice. |
JohnnyMcleod
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... Heskey has averaged 5 goals a season over the last 4 seasons, even by these poor standards he should have netted by now, perhaps we'll be in for a pre Christmas treat when he nets a brace against Stoke. He actually started ok against Everton but got progressively worse to the point were he was dire for most of the 2nd half. Its hard to find positives in a player that spends so much time in the centre circle on his arse. Looked much better without plodder Milner in the 2nd half I thought, am I allowed to say that ? |
Andi
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... JonnyMcleod - you can say that cause you can, Milner is sometimes a plodder / hardworker / good engined which ever way you look it i guess. Downing left Young right Milner moved inside i thing thats the forward oh oh oh and EMULE's goal is coming and its going to be a beaut when it does !!! i will wee if he socres a blinder like Berbatovs or Drogba's but inside of everyone flicking it to him he will do all the flicks himself hahaha |
Andi
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... Bruno will only score because the bloke after his England place is playing against us so direct comparison for fabio, The Mule is becoming like Anderton only turns up when England are mentioned is that what happens when footballers get old ? ? ? and past it |
John Samuels
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... It's gonna be another tough game down there, evening kick off so there will be loads of home support with a few beers and a lot of songs in them and I bet the weather is crap too. It's gonna be a hard game again, no easy games in the PL. They took a point off Arsenal and Sunderland and they look half decent at home. Doesn't help that Carlton Cole is looking very very dangerous at the moment. Tough game for Ginge and Dunnie but I think we can win this one. It's gonna be ugly again, but if we can nick an early goal it will make things a lot easier. We don't have the problem of throwing away leads like the gunners do every now and again....not anymore anyway. |
jerry
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...Bruno will only score because the bloke after his England place is playing against us so direct comparison for fabio, The other side of that coin is that Cole will play a blinder for exactly the same reason. Chiefy, I read your earlier post (no. 68 ) and felt so lifted I got up, made a cup of tea and comtemplated the wife's wobbly bits. When the word 'optimism' springs into my mind it's now automatically associated with the word 'Chiefy'. You have, sir, a wonderful talent for brightening up the day. |
Andi
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... Positive mental attitude you either beleive the glass is half empty, half full or its not your glass at all and someone has knicked it but the one that was knicked was full and convince everyone of this  |
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... off the topic but does anyone know what channel wednesdays games on? I can't see it on the sky sports guide or espn??  |
Andi
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... nath888- it is not on tv wednesday it is on myp2p.eu streaming it is the best your going to get live highlights on sky at 10.00 |
Mike Carter
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... Feeling positive today lads. Reckon we can beat the Hammers and maybe score at least twice!  4th place here we come... |
Mike Carter
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... nath888 - To my knowledge, we're not on TV now until later this month on ESPN. We're not on Sky again until the next of next month, so my subscription to Villa Streams was well warranted! |
Andi
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... BREAKING NEWS -- Rafa has three games to save his job or he is going t be sacked.....they have lost 6 out of the last 7 and the board are a little bit annoyed funnily enough..... You know people when ever you think we should have won or we didnt play well or MON should have done this that or the other think about it and look at the state of some of the clubs around us and their form we aint doing bad at all |
Andi
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... vivavilla -- did you say twice ??? "needs to sit down incase you also think Heskey might do the unthinkable" |
Mike Carter
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... Chiefy I know, think I had a rush of blood to the head! I do think we'll win though, we're due a win away. If Heskey wants to score who am I to stand in his way? |
John Samuels
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...If you have a moment it's worth a read and he's not even a Liverpool fan. |
Andi
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... vivavilla - he doesnt need anyone in his way lets not make his life any harder than what it is, first he has to get changed and tie his boots up without falling over BUT that aside i think The Mule is conditioned to score in this one, even going to get the odds on him scoring i fancy a flutter |
John Samuels
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...Without going over the behind-the-scenes machinations again - I wrote enough about them a couple of weeks ago - Benitez has out-performed Wenger against a background of doubt and uncertainty. It's only eight weeks until the transfer window opens and he still hasn't a clue if any money will be available to him. So he can't plan ahead with any detail. That's no way to run a business. I thought this article was interesting and topical. Couldn't post a link cos it was emailed to me by a scouse fan at work. I've been sending him Benitez out emails all morning and pictures of Steven Gerards angry face when we beat them at Anfield. |
nath888
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... ok thanks Villavilla, I think I'll have to watch it through villa streams too. UTV |
Andi
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... 4-1 to Heskey to score at anytime against the Spammers Villa 6/4 to win 10.00 bet 81.00 return now can the mule do it ?? thats villa to win 2-0 as well reckon big john will start hitting them now |
John Samuels
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... Good to see Carew score chiefy I agree, I hope he ups his work rate a bit too. He is such a big player for us when he's playing well, it would be nice to get a few goals out of him before he gets lazy again or injured. |
Mike Carter
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... Carew needed that goal, hopefully it will act as a rocket up his backside and he'll get a bit of motivation back. An on-form Carew is invaluable, as he demonstrated towards the end of last season. |
neil57
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... Two magnificent articles. They are stuck with the best/most successful manager in years. They cannot afford to sack him. It would be an act of insanity to do so. Villa fans, trust MON. He is an extremely intelligent man. He is raising the benchmark of this great club. It will be hard. Give him time and space. He has the strongest squad we have had in years and it will be stronger soon. Good old Chiefy, Jerry and JPA. Damian has given up. No new post. One is inclined to say after the scouse goings on, " How do you follow that?" . UTV |
Damian
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... actually just a case of struggling to post something today could have done the post-mortem but it was too depressing. working on the west ham preview now. we will win this .. we have too .. |
Ray Knowles
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... I know the transfer window still a few weeks away but anyone for cashing in (if there is any cash) on Heskey and Carew and bidding for Carlton Cole? Two years ago it would have been a laughable thought, but not so now.... |
jerry
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... When I learned that the piece had been linked to Liverpool Newsnow, I feared the worst. An invasion of abusive bindippers. Amazingly it never happened. One or two came on but even their comments had a desultory, half-hearted feel about them. Like they couldn’t be arsed. The psychiatrist in me knows what this means. They know they’re fcuked. They are actually in agreement with the, now, commonly held opinion that Liverpool has become a laughing stock. The next step is inevitable. The sensitive among us will start to feel sorry for them. I’ll have to stop taking the piss. Life in Liverpool is so desolate that the success of LFC is necessary for the scousers to have anything to live for. In order to prevent mass suicides the government will have to pass a law forbidding teams in the PL from trying too hard when playing LFC. To be effective there will have to be sanctions so there will be Ministry of Sport bureaucrats monitoring the game. Any team actually beating LFC will have an automatic four point deduction and a £100,000 fine. Any player scoring a goal will have to publicly apologise in the Sun newspaper. Any player scoring a hatrick will receive a six month loan period at Macclesfield FC. Sooner or later FSW will receive an envelope with his P45 in it and the fun will stop. Greg1982 will be pleased and I offer, in advance, my apologies to him for my latest spoof. But I can’t stop doing it. JPA, those articles you posted were very fair and very proper, but they don’t give the whole picture. It’s about style not substance. The Gooners have achieved a stable place in the top four with a net PLUS spend and play some cracking football. Their abundant style and stability means that everybody knows they will be a force very soon. Imagine the gooners with Torres and Gerrard. Ferguson would crap himself. Imagine the Villa with Torres and Gerrard (a bridge too far perhaps?) Last season Arsenal were on the skids for a while and I never stopped having a pop at them. Now it’s LFC and the waiter’s turn. Villa ain’t gonna win the title but we can amuse ourselves when those clubs and managers with pretentions to the prize, slip up. We’re only doing what the football gods are doing – laughing at the arrogant and stupid when they find the banana skin. |
neil57
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... Damian's back. Hurrah Are you mad? Cole, as previously stated, is a poor man's Heskey. O'Dreary gave him every chance. The Hammers play a game suited to us. Also, Collins must know a few things. Collins to score COYL |
neil57
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... Love it, Jerry. You are correct, Wenger manages to sell players at the end of their peak for top dollar. Also hangs on to jewels like Fabregas. FTW must have been shocked when GB went to Citeh. He should have kept Alonso, a matchwinner. I keep saying, FT and SG would make even the blues great Someone said that the support is not up to scratch at home, yet away, our fans sing their hearts out. DOL always said the home support was worth a goal or two. Get behind them UTV |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Look the fact is Benitez will not be sacked. Not down to the owners having faith in the man but down to the fact that they probably don't have the £20m redunancy payment it will require to get shot of him. Come Jan Liverpool will probably be flying again. It will be too late for the title but they will probably just about get 4th unless City really set up to the plate. |
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... Damian, I dread to think what the Man City blogger is thinking writing his post mortem on thier game today. Or the Liverpool one on theirs. Or the Spurs one on theirs. Man City just proves that £200 million doesn't buy you wins. You should be pleased with the start we've had and although disappointing, I don't see any reason to be depressed with Saturday's result. You could argue playing the 'second string' works against you - the players playing really want to play and are playing to keep their place when the others come back. Somebody on here took 9 players out of our first team and what was left was decent enough. |
Mike Carter
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... churchill If they sack the FSW and hire Dalglish, the fun certainly won't stop. The fun will carry on, and get even funner. |
Cally
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... Churchill: You're amateur attempts at psychiatry disguise obvious narcissitic and delusional tendencies. There's hardly any scousers on here because the article is an embarrassment and Villa mean absolutely f**k all to us. Trying to sign one of your best players who wanted out doesn't make you our rival. Even if we imploded completely and ended up in the Conference we'd still be a bigger, more succesful club. Keep dreaming though, maybe one day Lerner might stump up for a decent player. |
John Samuels
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... ak, I agree. Who knows, if they get beat by Lyon, they wouldn't have as many games as the other three. Might help putting a run together later in the season when theres tired legs and decimated squads about. |
John Samuels
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... AVJon, That was me and I think we really have a strong squad this year. If Petrov and Milner don't play West Ham, there's plaenty of Options available to put out what would still be a very strong side. We didn't have that last season. Plus we only have two points less than we did this time last year. Not bad going considering we're playing like Wimbledon when we go forward. Just waiting for the 'click' |
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... i think whats going on at liverpool at the moment is class!after the way they unsettled gb and the disgusting way they treated alonso no one can argue that they dont deserve this.if liverpool dont finish top 4 this season i honestly believe they will lose gerard and torres.gerard was close to going to chelsea and he seriously wants to win the epl before his career ends and lets bet truthful hes got NO CHANCE at liverpool.UTV |
Cally
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... It takes more than some daft cyber brummies to wind me up. I'm just indulging you in your desperation to be our rivals. I'm the closest you'll ever get to a big club. |
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... I was chatting to my scouse mate earlier.. I said to him it looks like the wheels had come off at Liverpool. He said, nah, they've actually been nicked and replaced with bricks. |
jerry
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... Cally At last, a bindipper shows up looking for a row. Happy to oblige you. In the interests of full disclosure and just so you can’t say you weren’t warned, this will be acutely painful. How could it be otherwise? After all, you’re a scouser and I’m a Brummie. You skulk, like a rat, in the back alleys of the North West and I promenade along the wide and leafy boulevards of Birmingham on my way to watch magnificent Aston Villa at a superior stadium. No wonder you’re jealous. Moreover, you are fu^ked. No PL title for the rodents this season. Not the CL either. And the fat waiter has made you the laughing stock of the country. Have you won more trophies than the Villa? Undoubtedly. Do I give a fu^k? No. Why? Because I was born a Brummie and you were born a bindipper. My heritage and ancestry is sublime, yours is base and wretched. Now fu^k off. And take that shell suit with you |
John Samuels
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... Cally, what is your opinion on Benitez? Should he stay, should he go? Be nice to get an inside line on it. You have to admit with the start you've had in the EPL and CL it's going to take a lot to mount a serious challenge in either. Would you take and FA Cup, top four and put it down to transition? You have to admit with the financial strength of Man City, Tottenhams good start and Evertons track record you have to be a little concerned about making the CL qualification this year before we even get started on Villa. I admit you have won more over the years, but given the way things are at the minute, I would put money on you finishing below us this season. I may lose it and it may be wishful thinking, but I think the reason you come here looking for an argument is because you are scared and currently in denial. Liverpool to finish outside the top four, go into financial meltdown, Gerrard to sign for Chelsea and Torres to Man U. Benitez leaves for a European club and the Yanks sell the club for two packets od crisps, a mars bar and Steve Claridge to Peter Ridsdale who immediately spends £7m on Seth Johnson and puts David O'Dreary in Charge. |
Ammar
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...actually just a case of struggling to post something today Damian would have been a interesting post mortem. Anyway looking forward to the West Ham game and hopefully 3 points. |
Car Frost
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... Ak - I agree, still think Liverpool will be fine although they need to get rid of Carragher. It's exciting in a way to think in the next 2 years should be the end of an era with Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Carragher, Ferdinand, Scholes and co all but past it, not so good for the national team but good for those with top 4 ambitions. |
John Jordan
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... Damian. "Post match comment would sound a lot more possitive than "Post Mortem"! |
Chris Harper
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...Hi, I'm Dave Pundit. I feel sorry for Marlon King. Don't get me wrong I don't condone violence towards women but in my day if you wanted to give the wife a slap you could bottle it up and then take it out on an opposition player on Saturday. But nowadays they've banned going in studs showing, waist high and from behind. I blame the referees |
Ammar
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...... Think that will depend on one of 3 things :- . How we actually play. . Personnel selected. . Probably the result but not as important as the first point. |
Cally
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... Did I just read 'wide and leafy boulevards of Birmingham'? Kinell, delusion reigns. You've got bigger problems than just an horrendous accent and infinte amount of shit British players. At least we keep you entertained...someone has to, right. It certainly isn't O'Neil's dinasour tactics. Ouch. |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... I know people are concerned about our form and I am also, but if we win on Wednesday, which is more than possible, we will be 4th in the league, without hitting anything close to top form. Add to this that we have 4 winnable games after Wednesday (Bolton,Spurs,Hull at home. Burnley Away) we could be sitting in a very nice position come the middle of December, where we should have ALL players fit (Downing and Bouma included) going into the festive period. On top of this the January window will be upon us and MON may pull a masterstroke...probably not but you never know!! I therefore think there is much to be positive about. The biggest being the form of our back 5 (that includes Fridel!!) where we look very solid and do not look like conceeding many. Therefore means if Milner, Young, Downing, Gabby, Carew and Heskey start performing like we all know they can, we will be an excellent side. I'm frustrated by our form but very positive about our future! |
Ammar
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...At least we keep you entertained...someone has to, right. It certainly isn't O'Neil's dinasour tactics You wonderful scousers will always keep us entertained. King Clown Rafa is doing a cracking job at the circus and hopefully more to come. Don't know what more interesting the football or the comical acts of King Clown himself. |
neil57
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... Just back from long walk. That was magnificent, Jerry. Winston would be proud. Some poor sod drowned himself in stocking, suspenders and a Liverpool shirt today. The police took off his Liverpool shirt to save his family any embarrassment. My chums who support them are seething. There is no recovery. Gerrard is out for a while, Torres is a passenger who cannot last 90 mins. Without those two, any team would be doomed. They also have this thing about the league. CL is not enough, top 4 is not enough. They have to keep ahead of Man U. Unfortunately, SKY and SAF have spoiled the show, plus our Oligarch friend. A bit like the labour party, it will be a long hard road back. Funny, they both favour red Nan,you must be loving this.UTV |
John Samuels
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... RDMLRD, Yay! I agree! If we can take minimum of 8 points from those games we'll be in a great position. Spurs and Bolton will be tough games, but as long as we can keep the umbeaten run going, put in a good show and get a min. 8 points I for one will be very happy. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Richard Dunne my lord, when was the last time we have really clicked as an arttacking force? What can/will MON do to improve this? Im trying to remember the last game where we really looked good going forward and im struggling to remember to be honest (Arsenal at home last season?). The worst thing is aside from bringing Downing into the team i honestly don't see what MON has in him to improve us. He does not tinker and he does not make many subs and i can't see him trying different coaching methods to bring the passing skills up to where they should be so i think unless Downing turns out to be huge assit to the team then what we have right now is what you can expect for the season. As it stands all we can look forward to us the 70thmin swap of Carew for Heskey or vice versa. |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... Thanks Villa_Chris and Juan Pablo Angel. I was at the game Saturday and was so frustrated with our performance. We looked solid at the back, but apart from Petrov, the whole midfield and attack looked below par. Even though it concerned me, at the same time, it pleased me that they must surely improve over the coming weeks? This can only be a good thing. I keep imagining what if we had a Joe Cole/Ireland/Defour type player behind a pure finisher Defoe/Bellemy, we would be a great side. Just hope Downing and Gabby can be those 2 players!! Time will tell! |
neil57
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... My word, just read that tosser, Cally. I know it sounds petty, but our accent does not compare to the AWRITE WACK style. Even prefer the Lancs, Yorks version. I am astounded he even wrote on a villa blog. If I, as a Villa fan, wrote on another site, I would not lower myself to that level. We are permitted to gloat on our own site. BTW, Moyes and other managers are very complimentary about MON and Villa. Rant over |
John Samuels
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... ak, Granted my friend that we aren't playing great and we are misfiring a bit in midfield, but what could MoN do to change this? Throw in a few unproven youngsters? Possibly, but while we a picking up points fairly consistently I can't see him risking it. After all we have had a good start points wise, a few bad results but a few really good ones too, so i'm not ready for panic stations yet. Downing could be very important to us. I'd argue that he could be as important to us as players like Gabby, Petrov, Milner, Young and Collins. He has quality there is no doubt. I, like you, still have questions about how exactly he will be played and employed on the field and what sort of job he could do for us, but it will definitely improve the team as far as i'm concerned. It might just be enough to give us a little more in the final third and the result could even be quite dramatic. If nothing improves then fine, it's unfortuante and it's something that will have to be adressed either in January or in the summer. However, O'Neill seems to think he can do something for us and he's pulled a few good buys out of the bag this window in Dunne, Collins and Warnock so i'm willing to wait and see what Dj Stew can do. |
Mike Carter
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... I find it hilarious a scouser would complain about anybody's accent. They have unquestionabley the worst and most horrible sounding accent in the world anywhere. |
John Samuels
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... I refuse to acknowledge Scally as I prefer to call him. Anyone who can't spell the word Dinosaur doesn't need anyone kicking him while he's down. Pity the boy. |
John Samuels
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... Have you ever heard a Scouser say chicken soup? Absolutely hilarious. It sounds like they're bringing up phlegm. |
Derek Gordon
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... Haha! Perfect, Jerry. I was just talking about loving this Liverpool spiral with a couple of workmates and had to explain the word "schadenfreude" to them. The I logged on to read this. I'm sure Liverpool Nation is back on full-moan regarding those "sodding American owners" who no doubt forced Benitez to sub Torres, Benayoun and Kuyt Saturday. Yeah. It's all the owner's fault, you losers. And Rafa is a genius. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA if im honest i would have liked to have seen far more of Barry Bannan over the last few years. He is supposed to be creative but i think he will move on before he ever gets a chance to show that he was up to the challenge. Im not talking about starting him but put him in for the last 15mins when Ashley is doing his usual nothing but throwing himself to the ground. Same can be said for the Albrighton. As it stands all we have to look forward to is the usual swaping of one boring ineffective striker for another. MON lacks any imangination or balls to try something different and as we are now we are well on track for burn out. I have never been more bored by a Villa team in all my time supporting Villa and that should not be the case given the amount of cash we have spent and where we are in the table but that is how i feel about this team. |
jerry
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...The police took off his Liverpool shirt to save his family any embarrassment. Neil, the missus just popped her head round the door to see what I was laughing at. |
John Samuels
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... ok ak, How did you feel about Villa around this time last season? About the time of the Everton game when Ash got the winner. We basically sold the player that made our midfield tick and replaced him (alledgedly) with a player who is injured. At least be patient and have a look at Downing before feeling so despondant. Try to see the bright side in the results and points we have despite us not playing great at the minute. Bannan is a player i've watched live and I have to say he's confident, but physically he doesn't look ready and his delivery still leaves somehting to be desired. Albrighton is clearly the better of the two and imo more likely to get a game before Bannan although I'm not as desperate to see them as you are. Give it time, it'll happen. If players show signs of exhaustion and need a rest, that is when MoN will start rotating. Are these young lads really the kind to come on and stamp their influence on proceedings and dictate a new way for our current team to play? I don't think so. Much better to have the team flying and introduce them gradually into a confident side where the pressure will not be quite so considerable. You might not agree, in fact I am pretty certain you won't but that is my opinion. We aren't playing great, but we aren't awful either. There are plenty of teams that would happily take a point from Goodison park, in fact a couple of the top four might be reasonably happy with one too. I know it's the nature of the way we're playing, but it is a results business and at least we have been getting a few of those. Lets hope we can smash and grab all three points at Upton park on wednesday and go fourth in the table. |
John Samuels
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... ak, I just re-read you comment and have two questions. 1. Bannan I believe is nineteen, do you really think we should be introducing players into the first team at 16/17 yrs old. Sure players like Rooney and Fabregas maybe, but I don't think we have anyone quite of that calibre coming through. 2. Did you not support Villa during Taylors second stint in charge and the latter days of the O'Leary reign? Cheer up mate, it might never happen. |
Damian
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... VILLA CHAT if you are wondering how you send them in .. use the contact form under contact in the main menu |
Andy Scarborough
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... Horrendous accent? I was in Amsterdam a few months ago sitting outside a bar on Oudside Achterburgwaal (Red Light Dist) when a couple of lads came over and spoke some barely intelligible gibberish about sitting in the seats next to me. They were carrying Ajax branded bags so I assumed they were Dutch. As they left I spoke to them about Ajax, they said; "We support Liverpool" in broad scouse accents. Says it all. |
Deano-avfc
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... .......................................Friedel................... ...................Cuellar....Dunne....Collins....... Milner/Albrighton...Petrov...Delph/Reo-Coker...Warnock..... ...............................A Young................. .....................Gabby..............Carew... I'd like to see a 3-4-3/3-5-2 tried out, we are strugglin going forward at the min, I think Milner and Warnock could take turns getting forward on the wings, Ash in a free role, Delph as an attacking CM linking with Ash and license to shoot on sight, our 3 CB's are all experienced and Milner/Warnock can track back as they always do. I smell a smell of goals so strong you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel. We would certainly be more creative anyway UTV |
Rios.Jockstrap
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...Did I just read 'wide and leafy boulevards of Birmingham'? Oh dear...... You sound like a Bin-dipper thats having a bad dose of smack. Ooops, silly me. You are a bin-dipper on a bad smack trip Liverpool is to culture as what Mogadishu is to World peace. I know you havent got a clue where Mogadishu is, scousers are not the most intelligent around, but if you look out your front door, and view the slum you live in, it may give you a clue |
Steve Badger
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...Are these young lads really the kind to come on and stamp their influence on proceedings and dictate a new way for our current team to play? I don't think so. I don't think it's about that. It's more about trying options when things aren't working. Such as bringing the Fonz on for 20 mins instead of that useless piece of sh..... Villa chat, does this blog have an email adress ? Just use that button at the very top of the page that says "contact". You don't need a mail addy. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA i think Bannan could have been used last season and obviuosly this year. I mean we have no creative option in the club bar maybe Delph and Young has been terrible. Why not put them in with 15mins to go? I don't buy this size argument(but that is a huge aspect of MON's philosphy of the game). Ability is ability and he would be on the pitch to create. Now he may not be up to it but you know what if he isn't at 19 he won't be at 20/21. The fact that Martinez was interested in the summer tells me he is a talent. But i think i know MON pretty well now to say that chances are Bannan will never get a proper shot unless inj forces him. For some reason i found the football better back then under both those guys even though it probably wasn't. But right now it is just so predictable at this stage with the starting line up, positioning and use of subs that i find it just bland. I just wish MON could be a little more trusting of youth and a little more imanginative and creative. At the moment i see his lack of imangination/ creativity being brought onto the field by the players. |
jerry
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...does this blog have an email adress ? Villa Chat. Go to the header at the top (the claret bit). Click 'contact' and a window will pop up headed 'Contact the Villa Bloggers'. Put in your name , email and in the box marked 'Enter your message', enter your message. My advice would be: do it in Word so you can spell check and count the words (try to limit yourself to 500. It's a good discipline). Copy and paste. Good luck. Not everything gets through (you may get lucky because the final arbiter has writer's block at the moment). |
Steve Badger
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...the final arbiter has writer's block at the moment Yeah, come on Damian. You've been a bit shy lately. Not that much to write about though is there, tbf? You'll have to make something up mate |
James
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... A couple of points... 1. Great work everybody, several memorable contributions above. Especially appreciated Churchill's Scally Address. Tears to my eyes. 2. The boss slipped in one of his favourite lines there that seems to have gone unnoticed (is it JPA who shivers at it)'we'll get three points, we have to.' Don't let the scousers clowning distarct your eyes from the ball fellas. |
Steve Badger
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...we have to What's wrong with that? We do, if we want top 4. I'm not going into it again, but we have to expect it. They're second bottom and have only won one game nan. I know what you mean, but we need to keep winning. Whilst I was reasonably happy on saturday, I still see it as 2 points dropped. If we don't win against them, it's more points dropped, simple, to my mind. As I've said before, you don't have to win every game, but you must beat the crap/struggling sides, imo. |
FatKevs
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... vivavilla OM was played out of posision, declined i think not you have a short memory Batty played for england & so have many other poor players there is even a song for it. There are grounds for us not being able to compete Why did we only have enough $s to bring in Heskey when we had a chance of the CL that has been lost for ever now. The 5yr plan is nearly up & we ar no closer our football has not improved our squad possibly has a bit more depth but far less quality |
Steve Badger
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...Excuse me, that's my department. Apologies. As it happens, I think I make it up sometimes. Mostly because I don't know what to think of late |
James
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... I think JPA's (I hope it was him)point was that if EVERY game is a MUST win, then the statement itself loses any meaning. Good to win, yes. Expect a win, yes. MUST win, no not really. |
keith
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... why not try milner as the attacking midfielder behind carew for the knock backs and leave him to distribute or shoot |
Deano-avfc
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... I'd prefer to see Ashley in the free role behind JC and Gabby. He has a better shot on him than Milner and can dribble past with the loose balls in and around the edge of the box. Lets face it, he's been dog shit on the left this season and started out as a striker so the free role might be his forte, If I remember correctly he had a few decent games in the hole last season. 3-4-3/3-5-2 UTV |
neil57
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... Just been on Liverpool website. Ours is a piece of cake. Some fan wrote an epistle on the yanks. It was longer than the bible. Churchill would go mad. Well written but very long winded. Damo, all is forgiven. This is a good site. Keep it up |
Martin Clabon
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... Churchill, very funny, loved it. But wrong, Liverpool will turn it round soon and go on a long unbeaten run. Much as I'd love to see them slip best we can hope for is 5th for them which is something of a disaster but hardly mid table. More likely they get bought by a middle east consortium and spend half a billion - still be 3rd behind Chelsea and one of the Machesters though |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Sid i see Liverpool going that way as well. There are billionaires queing up to buy that club that will invest huge capital. If they fail to get top 4(and crash out early from CL this year) the yanks that own it now will be under severe pressure to make the repayments on their loan. But that in fact i think will only force the sale of the club to guys with real money who won't have to get a loan to buy it. If the fans could actualy see that they might actually want such a poor season to force the Americans to sell. |
david mc gorrian
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... Damo is there any chance we could get a post everyday if not by urself one of the lads churchill nan gerry etc.i love the blog but this the first time i got to sit down today and was looking forward to a good read.normaly u do mate but if u cant isnt it better for the site that someone does.not giving out pal love the blog,someday when im older{im 34)lol i might ask u to post 1 meself. UTV |
Ammar
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... This about sums it up when we mention players playing out of position Heading reads : - Cuellar Suspended, Who Will Play Right Back? http://www.astonvilla.vitalfoo...?a=7502675 |
jerry
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...Just been on Liverpool website. neil, which one? But wrong, Liverpool will turn it round soon and go on a long unbeaten run. Mmmm... Maybe Junior. Rich Arabs are in short supply at the moment. This is a good time to buy so if there are buyers out there, I think a bid would have been made by now. You also got to realise what anybody who now buys a PL club is up against. You’ve got to go head to head with Man City and Chelsea and that takes serious money. Sheik Mansour and Abramovich won’t be outbid so to get the best players you have to be prepared to pay the very highest prices. Their money has completely distorted the market. An owner with one billion pounds is not a big player any more. And even if you could compete with the sheikh and Abramovich you’re still going to end up with a side that can’t beat B’ham City FC. Do you think you can buy Torres, now, for what LFC originally paid? That’s why LFC are screwed – there’s too many big players distorting the market. The key isn’t money – there’s already too much of it - it’s management. Need an example? Look at Arsenal (thank you limerick villain). How lucky are those gooners? Fellas, you all know me by now - got to be style. I'm always gonna try and make you laugh. But there was substance there as well. Benitez really is losing the plot. Gillett and Hicks are royally screwed. £20 mil to get rid of him. Massive debt. Rebellious fans. Think on this: what happens if they miss CL qualification. Torres and Gerrard will go. They'll get good money for them, but they'll lose them. Who in their right mind would buy into all this? |
david mc gorrian
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... churchill mate u know ur football as do a nice few of the lads on this site.im a boy amongst men i love my football and most of all i love the villa! Im hoping to get a match in jan or feb. i live in ireland in limerick and i run a barber shop by myself so its hard to get over but ill tell u this u want to see the atmosphere in my shop come matchday its electic the boys wont even tell me wat team they support just in case..lol |
jerry
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...the boys wont even tell me wat team they support just in case What? you'll turn 'em into pies. Limerick Sweeny Todd, it's a pleasure to make your aquaintance. |
Tokyo
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... Yes, good to read about criticism of some other sides, rather than our own. Villa are one game away from 4th place, without Ashley Young or Emile Heskey getting into any sort of form yet. It will happen, but it's all down to confidence. Soon Albrighton will get his chance and Delph is waiting in the wings. It looks good overall - and it's all happening while Martin O'Neill is the custodian of the Villa ship. We've beaten Liverpool and Chelsea, and we really should be getting behind the team. Constructive criticism is to be preferred, instead of 'mule' nonsense. Someone said over-criticism is corrosive and this is very true. Even the custodian of this web site, who provides a great service, adds to the negative atmosphere - making jibes about other managers being superior (Roy Hodgson) to O'Neill, but such talk is getting nowhere. What is the point? We're almost 4th - in touch of THE BIG FOUR - so what the hell are we moaning about? It's bloody hard to get into the big four, but we are almost there. An achievement on the way to better things. Can you remember when news was released about Collins being signed. The mockers mocked and criticised O'Neill like mad. Look at how well he's done. Look at the longer term picture instead of reacting to short term disappointments in corrosive ways. Liverpool are in a bad situation, but they can turn it around. I hope they won't. |
Tokyo
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... By thw way, who are the two players in front of my team on the Villa Blog league? Niall and Carl - are you on here? We've all chosen Dunne/Collins and Milner, so it looks like there'll be little change on Wed night. Great minds, eh?! "1 villa 37 niall dolan 74 682 2 O'Neil The Messiah Carl Raven 74 680 3 Benny's Cobweb Eyes Grimo Ire 72 673 " Carl |
neil57
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... Good morning, just having brekkie. thisisanfield.com is the Liverpool site. Alright. Like it Villan. Re Liverpool turning their season around, they have a lot of players out. It's boring, but Stevie G and Torres are crucial. We beat them with a frustated, fit Gerrard.They will not be above us,their fans even believe this. There is a big protest v the yanks. They hate them. Newcastle is cheap and still cannot find a new owner. Liverpool is worth over £300m, there are cheaper clubs out there, eg QPR. Be positive, 4th place up for grabs. UTV |
King VOGRA
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... i have to say i was a big knocker of the signing of James Collins, how wrong was I, he has now turned into my favourite player at the club. But i'll stand by what i said about Dunne, i think he's a liability, too slow,not a very good decision maker and gets caught out far to often. I would move Cuellar to partner Collins in the middle. |
Andi
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... Looks like Carson Young is getting a bit excited Blues have been linked with non other than Shevchencko ! and we think we have problems with Bruno ??? Villian - I will have you know that EMULE is a term of effection for the big lump ! |
Andi
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... With the apprant "injury concerns" we have at the moment couldnt this be just what the fringe players need ?? Will Young be fit for right back or do we play Monday, Tuesday Habib Beye or does MON play a blinder and play someone out of position maybe Coker ? Milner could be out which could see Albrighton, Delph, Coke or even no one and MON choose to play 3 up top and 3 in the middle ? According to skysports we also have another 1 or 2 that are going to have to have a fitness test, so maybe now the time for the fringe players to make their claims i just hope EMULE is not injured i got a £5 on him to score. |
Andi
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... Oh and Petrov is doubt a fear we will see Sidwell and Coker in the middle, but i would prefer Delp and Coker although he may go five in the middle and play delph, sidwell and coker with gabby on the wing and carew up top, but going on pre season albrighton should be called up. Blogging to yourself is the first sign of going mad |
neil57
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... Last post lost! thisisanfield.com is the site. Too dear to buy. £300m plus. Hear we have injuries. Time for fringe players to step up. UTV |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Churchill there has been one Arab Billionaire family trying to buy liverpool for a few years now. They are the rivals to Citys Arab owners and want liverpool to continue this rivalry. Hicks and Gillet won't sell but they might not have the choice if Liverpool fail and lose the CL money whih keeps them ticking over. But if they do manane to but Liverpool then they also will have huge funds to spend. I think you are jumping the gun with Liverpools demise. But are we ready to take advantage this year if they do fall apart? That should be our main question. |
Andi
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... while we may or may not be ready to take the opportunity that presdents itself you have also got to remember there are at least 3 other teams that will also be looking at it, consistentcy is going to be the key after Christmas and luckly we get a new signing next month and while he may not be the "one" just think what could happen if he is, and going by what has turned out with Collins i would hedge a bet that things are only going to get better after xmas, all it takes is one move during the game one moment in time where the whole team comes together and fits then everything looks a whole lot better apart from the big four who else can say "we are playing pants not doing this that or the other but we win our next game and we are 4th" that is an achivement in itself |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Maybe Chiefy but the records show we fall away after xmas under MON. So far we can talk about squad size but i wouldn't be surprised if we have used less players then last year. We certianly haven't used that many more and i think this reluctance to rotate at this stage of the season could have implictaions come the run in when it really matters. |
Andi
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... But how do you know he wont rotate after Xmas ? the records are history and you learn from history not repeat it. I think after Xmas we are going to be stronger than we are now and i think our back end run will replecate our front end run last season. Even though our defence is doing well after Xmas they will have enough games to really know each other making them even tighter, Downing will be in and the midfield mistery should have been sorted which will inturn assist the front 2/1, the new year is when it will be played out and where we will see how serious we are of making the top four and so far playing badly we are in with a shout so playing well we are going to be a handful, Man Utd game soon another chance for us to measure how far we have come and so far we are moving forward and getting better even if the football may not be, but results first style of football second |
Andi
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... and on the style of football i think once we get our creative player, who ever it may be the style of football will change. As this is normally dictated by the player who has the ability to pick the pin point pass or has flair resulting in the style matching the creative players ability |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Rotation is meant (as far as i know) to be used throughout the entire season to get the maximum effect. Its all about putting millage up on the legs and i would guess our starting 11 have far more on the clock right now then any other. The fact that we spend less time in possession then most which means we are chasing the ball more only adds to that factor which i think is why we have always fallen away come the business end of things. |
Andi
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... isnt it ironic that the signing or the already purchased creative player could solve so many problems, possesion - we would have more of it if we had a player who could pick the right pass or do more with it when he has it, goals - he would supply the front to better in better positions resulting in more goals. Now on the subject of rotation how do we know that during the coming months the likes of Delph, Albrighton, Fonz, Beye, Bouma, Young etc etc will not be used for example MON is forced now to use at least one if not two of them tomorrow so this is now their chance. It maybe not MON fault at all why they have not been played maybe they havent done enough to show they should dislodge Sidwell, Cuellar, A. Young, Milner, Carew sometimes it is not the manager at fault but the players they all say they want to play week in week out and they would do anything to be in the first team but by watching our team only Milner, Cuellar, Collins, Petrov, Warnock and Carew would actually DO ANYTHING to be in the team. Over the next few weeks things may change and the team may rotate but if he does and it goes backwards he gets shot if he doesnt and we are not doing badly he gets shot MON cant win |
Andi
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... and on the subject of rotation i dont think we are at the place to be rotating yet. We have a new backline we are not playing great the players i assume you are talking about bringing in are up till now unproven, why rotate with the unknown when while not playing great the known are not doing bad and risk undoing all the hard work they have put in it doesnt make sense, we have adequate cover and until such time as they are required to cover and show us what they can do it would be madness to just rotate and change a team doing well, only when you have the likes of deco, essien, anelka, scholes, giggs etc etc can you afford to rotate but even then they have to perform in training or they dont get on take Owen, Nani etc etc i dont think we are a rotating team yet and i understand why but the players on the bench all will get their chance as the season goes on they take it they carry on playing they dont they go back to the bench |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... Reckon Petrov will make it and the team will be as follows... Fridel L Young Dunne Collins Warnock Gabby Reo Petrov Sidwell Young Carew I'd swap Delph for Sidwell but what do I know?! That bloke just brings nothing to the team. Slow, can't pass that well and can't tackle. |
Andi
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... RDML -- I would agree with you there and your formation if we go in at half time winning i would take coker off and put Albrighton on and push Gabby up top with Carew |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Chiefy Sidwell must have caught that before he joined Villa as he was been crap long before Heskey joined. |
Andi
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... Liked Sidwell at Reading Chelsea destroyed him sadly and unfortunatly that is what the clubs with money do to players if or when they dont make SWP was lucky to get out at Chelsea when he did |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... I just can't see what MON sees in Sidwell? I agree Reo isn't the best on the ball, but at least he can tackle, break up play and surge forward getting us on the attack. In the last minute on Sat, he got the ball on the edge of our box, surged past 3 men and was through, until the ref blew up!! I appreciate he would have probably missed but I have never/will never see Sidwell do that. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... He destroyed himself Cheify. Why did he join them in the first place? = $$$$$$$$ Doesn't say too much about him to be honest if he couldn't see he would be behind Essien, Makelee, Lampard, Ballack and Mikel for the CM role. Also i don't think they destroyed him. I just think he played above himself for a season and that was it really. Wenger got rid of him for a reason and he doesn't make too many mistakes. |
Chris Harper
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... This Sidwell situation reminds me a lot of Petrov. He was awful and MON carried on playing him. Nobody could understand, including myself. Lets just hope he turns out to be Petrov no.2 and becomes our very own Midfield maestro, like Gerrard or Lampard. |
Andi
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... Sidwell i reckon plays the martar card and pulls at MON heart strings as does Heskey he is trying to be a saviour to them and bring back their best days and if he is MON NO its not going to work, I struggle with Sidwell and Heskey I can only assume it is to allow the team to practice for when they have ten men. Just imagine if we played someone other than Sidwell, never mind the new signing or downing for that matter we would have 11 players then we might be on an even playing field |
StickyAV
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... Oh Jerry Jerry Jerry. How good it is, I tell you, to come on this site and read a funny, well written, interesting, debateable post. Ahhhhhh refreshing. Start your own blog mate, I might actually join that one rather than posting as a guest all the time... |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Chris Petrov had to be moved in order to get the best out of him. Where could you move Sidwell to? But lets be honest about the ginger ghost. What attributes does he really have to a top CM? Other then nearly getting on the end of a few crooses not tht much. |
jerry
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...I think you are jumping the gun with Liverpools demise. You're right, ak. I could be jumping the gun. You have to bear something in mind though. There is an eternal truth, which is: if you don't make the top four LFC are in big trouble. They become massively unprofitable. Which wrecks the value of the brand. This is not about money. It's about management. Who are you going to bet on Wenger or Benitez. Easy peasy innit. Chiefy, get back on the medication buddy. |
Chris Harper
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... I think if he could apply himself and concentrate a bit more, he could score a few goals during the course of the season. As you say, he does get on the end of quite a few crosses. He needs to learn how to header! Moving Petrov wasn't the only factor that got the best out of him, it was down to hard work and confidence in the player himself. His touch, tackling, everything was well below standard, but he picked himself up and now he's excellent. Come on Sidwell, prove us wrong dude!! |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Chris i think Petrov always had his skill. Its just he didn't have the pace to play as an attacking CM in this league. But i think we knew he still possessed the tecnical ability and passing abilityto be a good player. I just don't see anything in Sidwell to be a CM for a club with our ambitions. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... churchill i think that the Arab billionaires that were looking to buy them wouldn't care less about money. It is all about status with them. Yes it would be good for us if Liverpool sliped up but that would only be if Hicks and Gillett don't sell it to guys who will inject huge money into the club which is what i think will happen. The last thing we need is more multi Billionaires coming into the league. |
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