Written by Rob Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:06
Martin O’Neill has gone on record today saying ’I am excited to see how Manchester City do. Its like the premier league reinvented’.
Now this seems to have rubbed a few fans up the wrong way, almost taking it as an admission of defeat before the season has even started. But is our esteemed manager being rather clever? He mentions it is like seeing the Chelsea monster creation all over again.
When Chelsea were bought by money bags Roman, he collected a world class team; Darth Kenyon, Jose Mourinho and a wealth of world class players. It worked. But what it also did was disrupt the top of the table and fragment it slightly so that Everton could achieve Champions League football, albeit for one season.
Now we see Manchester City. They have inherited a Kenyon type figure and a manager but they don’t have the same sort of track record as there famous counterparts. Manchester City have Gary Cook in the Kenyon role and Mark Hughes in the Mourinho role.
It is the subject of Hughes as manager that I think will hinder them in the long run. He has no top club experience, no experience with big players and if he fails to win games in the first half of the season it will be ‘bye bye’.
However, I do think they will complete at the higher end of the table. Is this bad? Should we be scared? Yes, we should but not as much as some others. Allow me to explain.
If you are a top four club in England, you have a wage bill and infrastructure that commands top money and you need to be bringing in top money to balance the books. Without the top money that Champions League football generates you are facing financial ruin.
If Manchester City gatecrash the top four then one of the current top four will be in serious trouble. One of those teams will lose something in the region of £40mn in turnover. That is a massive amount and could prove decisive. The team that drops out would need to sell some of their top players to survive and thus weaken their team for the next season.
Now consider that Manchester City will improve, we assume that Spurs will do better this season, Everton and Fulham will be strong. We all assume this could mean the Villa are in danger of missing out on Europe next season. And yes we could, but what it will also mean is that the likes of Spurs will be taking points off the big four or five teams.
This will hopefully see that gap between them and the rest reduce. Multiply this by the number of clubs who we think will do well this season and the gap vanishes. The league becomes a true league again.
Now, what we need is for Martin O'Neill to go out and bring in five or six very good players who all strengthen our starting line up. Bring in the strong back line, add some flair and get us a twenty-goal a season striker. I think he will and he may even believe that European football is more achievable this year because of the events taking place at Eastlands.
I think this is what he is intimating in his interview. If our thoughts on Spurs, Everton and Man City, that they all steal more points from the better teams, turns out to be true, then we might even see a very low total points total for the title, the top four and top six finishes.
We will be in there fighting for these positions because maybe this year is just about taking stock and seeing what happens at the very top. A top six finish would be a good achievement and should form a solid platform to push on next season.
Now fast forward a year and the top four reads Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal. Liverpool miss out on the top four and they enter a phase the papers tag 'financial meltdown'. Top earners Gerrard and Torres will leave. Sir Alex hangs up his boots at United and Arsenal continue to not spend big money. Would there be an opening?
Would the monopoly finally be broken from a source that we never saw coming? The truth is we wont know until next season but one thing is for sure and that is the top four will be more worried about Man City than us and for owners like Gillett and Hicks at Liverpool I would not be surprised if the sale sign goes up if things are not going to well by Christmas, if it isn't privately already.
Now, if we strengthen properly and manage to take points off our nearest rivals then we can achieve European football this season, without doubt. This season could see the end of the big four as we know it and a return to a competitive league. Next season, who knows, but I hold some hope.
Perhaps the Man City thing is not all bad and that is this point, I believe, that Martin O'Neill is trying to get across, albeit in his own secret code.
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ak_27
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... Solid platform for next season? Surely MON has put that platform down enough times already? Its about time he focused on the walls and moved away from the platforms. |
Steve Badger
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... Good post Rob, definitely food for thought. My big worry isn't talking point off our rivals, it's our constant failure to not get results against teams we really ought to be beating. But we'll see and yes I think it'll be a very interesting season. Arsenal and Liverpool would be in serious trouble if they dropped out the $ky 4. |
Villa4life
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... yawn...... MON needs to stop going on about what other teams are doing.... look at his skeleton squad and think.....hmmmm... I have only two Central defenders and two weeks left..... I tell you what i'll take another trip to spain.... I like the beaches there.!!!!..... PULL YOUR F@@@IN FINGER OUT AND GET SOME QUALITY PLAYERS IN!!!!...... good thing i have not renewed my season ticket this year after all with work and all....... can't be bothered sitting watching MONs poor army get 8th place You will lose even more fans... this is the final year to prove yourself.... if you can't take us any further then Hull city will be looking for a new manager soon....... jog on! |
Deansaundersperm that's perm
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... Very good point ak, the foundations should have been in place two seasons ago, seems to me we are starting over again |
ric_a
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... this should also be put in the context of; 1. ronaldo leave manchester united - which will be huge if you look at the way he added that little bit extra to turn 1 into 3 and 0 into 1. 2. "strong rumours" indicate liverpool look like losing their midfield bossers in mascherano and alonso - significantly weakening their team 3. chelsea have a new boss and although not shipping players in the off-season, they will no doubt be in a position of flux 4. arsenal are balancing the books and shipping big-wage, big-names for silly money (not sure of the impact because adebayor (and toure) were not exceptional this last season anyway) ...add in the african nations cup (chelsea and arsenal (possiblt man city) say bye bye to january!) mix in the mass media pressure on the top-4 and man-city and we will hopefully get a great melting pot of a season. not neccesarily a better quality of top-4 but a better-season. so villa can look at this as an opportunity to go slowly-slowly catchy monkey....and treat it as a marathon whilst the tabloids slap the top 4(+1) with the burden of a sprint! |
Deansaundersperm that's perm
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... And we have been linked again with every available player in the world according to the mail, must be a quiet day |
George Hartless
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... Do agree with the league being more competitive. Gap between 4 and 5 last season was 9 points. I expect it to be less than 5 this season. As for MON speaking in code, I'm not convinced. I think he's just saying what he thinks and you might be providing a bit too much analysis! Bit like my old English teacher. Always had to look for meaning in every sentence rather than just accepting things at face value! |
davo
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... Villa4life. Season ticket sales have been good again...You seem to be the sort of 'suppporter' Villa park would be better without. |
RAZ
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... Very good in theory, i do expect something major to happen sooner or later, but the most important thing for villa is to keep building and improving with shrewd buys. Signings like Downing will improve us. And with all the money that other clubs are spending to achieve their goals it could always come back to haunt them. True, Ferguson will hang up his boots eventually and arsenal dont appear to be getting any stronger, hence sale of adebayor and potential of toure. I dont think chelsea will ever achieve the dream of winning a treble because theres too many mecernaries at the club. Managers will come and go as a result of this and we've already seen this before. No stability. For me, Liverpool are one of the strongest in the long run. Man city are copying chelsea and they too will become unstuck at some point albeit with some success along the way. Believe me, i think villa are doing things correctly and will only get stronger with better finishes season on season. We just need patience. Which some of our fans dont have!! UTV  |
Graymo
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... "I think he will and he may even believe that European football is more achievable this year because of the events taking place at Eastlands" Please explain how this makes any sense. Manchester city being stronger doesnt make the top teams any less strong. The more strong teams at the top the lower down the league we finish. |
hitman83
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... I do think MON is deflecting the pressure to Mark Hughes, but more in the attempt to take the attention away from Villa and the lack of depth to the team. Im 100 % behind MON and Lerner and think they will continue to improve the club, but we may face a few dips in position before we become a true force in the EPL. I dont think its possible to continually expect to maintain or improve year on year in a positional sense. |
VillaDude
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... It mentions that Chelsea have peter kenyon, and Man city have some other guy managing the transfers....but MON does't want any aditional help. Didnt our middle man get sacked after 6 months of MON being in charged? |
rob hathaway
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... graymo, if man city take more points of the teams around us then you need less points to rise up the league. Like i said, if we take points off our closest rivals again we will be up there. plus if they buy lescot they will have weakened everton, they have weakened arse and they have tried to disrupt terry. Yes they even weakened us when they had barry but I am one of the minority that feel that loss of barry can make us stronger as long as mon is brave when picking a replacement. Although downing is not a direct replacement i consider him a better player than barry |
Graymo
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... okay well since we are quoting MON, here's his oppinion: O'Neill does, however, admit that his attempts to break into the top four are likely to be rendered unsuccessful by City's splurge. "I'm deflated by it," he added. "You think, 'Well, you got quite close last year and suddenly another club has just stepped over you'. It kind of punctures you. I'm sure if you asked David Moyes at Everton he would think the same. |
jk92923
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... never saw it that way and well explained. good post Rob Villa4life.....he doesn't just come out and sprout about other teams/players etc, these are answers to questions put to him, what the journalists print is up to them. delighted to hear you wont be at Villa Park next year...replaced by someone who wants to be there. excellent! |
Villaman1981
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... Oneil is making excuses up already. At this rate we will finish mid Table at Best. Come on Martin Sign some Players or ship out where the money Villa. We spent nothing this transfer Window zero. Only what we got from Man City for Judas and Barry Proving us right maybe Villa Have no Ambition After All. Gary |
rob hathaway
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... i think it rather hasty to say you wont be at VP next year. what if mon signs 40mn worth of talent in the next week? would you opinion change? if your answer is yes then you aint a real supporter |
Scrumpy
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... One of the key things this year isn't necessarily how we do against the top 4 (or 6) as they will all hopefully pretty much take points off each other. The key games are the games you should and expect to win (Newcastle, Middlesboro and Stoke x 2 spring to mind). In fact add on those points we dropped surprisingly (11)and top 4 was very much in reach without having to do any better against the top 4. Taking points off Top 4 is a bonus and just helps to add more pressure onto them. Our record against top 4 last year was w1, d3 and L4 so not that great anyway. I fancy that if the few transfers we hope are coming happen, then we should improve that record against top 4, but the real key is winning against any team that we think should finish below us. |
donnyvillan
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... rob h have you had a drink Downing better than Barry,would you have said that last year when Barry was with us.I think if we strengthen correctly we'll finish 5th.But if we went to town and spent big we could be in top 4 what ever happens i've got my wigan tickets. |
pjvilla
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... Surely it means that the Top 5 will be taking points off everyone now and there will be less points for the chasing pack to win. There is also still only 4 champions league places so if Man City take Arsenals place then for us we now have to finish above Arsenal not Man City to finish higher up the league and a Europa place. Nice idea but there is no way Man Citys position gives us a better chance in the league! |
Simeon
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... There are going to be alot of bitterly disappointed Villa fans by the time this season is out. And there will be plenty of fans disappointed by the time this transfer window closes. Some fans are already bitterly disappointed. I look forward to a time when all Villa fans are united as one in our disappointment. There are more important things in life than success on the football pitch. The body of Villa supporters is one, and it will be a happy day when, once again, we are one big, unhappy family! |
Liam E
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... Stick with O'Neill lads, remember the O'Dreary days, we are in a much better position that then! Barry was going anyway so forget him, sidwell and petrov with another addition to the midfield we will be ok. As for Laursen, the guy is god but we didnt have him for long parts of the season. As proved by Man U anyone is replaceable, its how much they put in that you get out! Taylor never played and Zat Knight was a player everyone complained about. if we start the season in 2 weeks with Freidel, Shorey, Cuellar, Davis, Young, Milner, Sidwell, Young, Petrov, Carew and Gabby its not the end of the world. I want signings as much as anyone but we need to trust that behing the scenes we are doing the best to stop the harewood and knight signings just to get players in and we are looking for true quality. thats all folks. UTV |
pete
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... cant really see why man city will be a bigger threat than last season.a lot of new players to settle in ,just think of the headache of squad rotation .i dont think hughes is cut out for the job.sacked by christmas |
Keith
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... Interesting idea. I think all MON is doing is putting pressure on Man City and lessoning expectation on Villa. AA - good to see you back mate. |
Craig Elliot
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... Rob, Quality post as always mate, i so hope your right the way you are thinking cause I am thinking the same. The players we are linked with are all to give us a solid premiership base and I (like you) believe MON knows exactly what he is doing. |
Pat McDermott
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... this is actually a really interesting take on the Man City situation and I hope that it does turn out to be true. |
colm tarpey
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... Why are we after keane? and Huntleaar..that would leaves us top heavy with strikers even if the Hare goes...MON stated that he will be using Delf more this season.... MON is just telling it like it is re: Man City...would'nt any of us feel exactly the same if you faced that? Running ure own business and trying to survive and then some huge coppration sweeps in and undercuts you across the board... |
George Hartless
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... Man City will be a massive threat. Not only does MON think so but SAF thinks so too. You know SAF fears you when he starts the mind games before a ball has even been kicked. |
Cambridgeblue
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... I'm a city fan, and before I get slaughtered I'd like to make it clear I'm here in peace. I know some of you will be pissed about the whole Gareth Barry thing... a feeling I well know from when we lost SWP to Chelsea. The OP makes some interesting points in that the likes of Villa, Everton, Spurs and now City are in a much better position to take points off the top 4. United in particular are very vunerable to a sudden shortfall in revenue... if they go trophyless this season and fail to progress beyond the quarters of the Champions League I think they could be in real trouble. I've always suspected (as I'm sure many of you have) that United fans are by and large a fickle gloryhunting bunch and as soon as Man U fail to win things on a regular basis my guess is that their revenue will suffer accordingly as suddenly they all turn to the next successful team (Real Madrid perhaps?). Nothing would please me more than seeing United do a Leeds, god even the thought makes my spine tingle with excitement. Anyway - best of luck for the new season... I've always been an admirer of MON - very professional guy and conducts himself with dignity unlike a certain baconfaced hypocritical scot I could name. Cambridgeblue |
Tim
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... If MON would stop frigging messing around and actually put some decent bids in for quality players we might just be able to keep on a par with Man shitty ! It seems to me he's accepting that every player wants to move to them , they cant surely buy all available players can they ? MON is really doing my head in he's now making excusses for his own weakness. If he thinks that we will buy this excuse he has another thing coming ! Surely if we made decent enough bids for the likes of Jovanovic, Defour, and alike and paid decent wages and other bonuses then they would sign ! Im in no dowt that MON does not want to pay that little bit extra and say other that extra 5K a week wage to get these players to come. His new name should be Martin O'Scrooge or Miser O'Neill ! If he does not want to even try to come up to date with the demands of the players in a New Style Prem League, which acctually means to buy success and update ur team every season he may as well go now ! We as fans deserve the best for our club and it is 13 Years since we won any Silverware (1996 League Cup) If you look at all the money that the fans fork out over the period of a season and then invest a huge chunk of that to update the team then you can only go one way !! Im afraid running a football club is more than just staying in the top division these days, you need to be winning things and with that success comes more money and supporters. Unless MON and RL conform to the top 4's way of thinking we will never win anything and we will be in the duldrums of the prem league hasbeens. We had the impetus last season and now MON and it would appear RL dont want to kick on with making Villa a force once again, im not happy with that and if MON and RL think Villa fans are they are living in cloud cookoo land. The Blue Noses are taking the piss big Style guys and if MON and RL let them have their way i'd want them both out. We must never let these Noses beat us again !! They are second rate club who only live to beat us twice a year before being relegated. If MON and RL accept us losing to Small Heath then they are in for a huge wakeup call and i can see riots taking place, Its time to show us all the PR hype and promise before it is too late MON & RL. If any Villa Fans is happy to see us concede our position as Top Dog to those Scum from over Small Heath then you are also in for a rough time. |
Darren
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... From what you are saying the other teams take more points off the top teams but that only means they have more chance of taking points off us as well (especially as we may not be as strong as last season). Not sure where this gap may come from either if one club does go into meltdown its because its been replaced and then so the gap is filled already? Not trying to be negative here, like your optimism but all it says to me is that the top 4 are still strong, Man city are much stronger and we are weaker and so it all adds up to a much harder season for us. |
ak_27
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... I think MON should focus on making VP a fortress again. And to that i think he needs to get 2 attacking ful backs and another quality CM to play along side Pertov. We threw away really silly points at home last year. As for one of the big teams falling out of the top 4 i think Arsenal will not be one. Also i feel they are the most stable of all those clubs. Yes they might have a big debt due to the stadium but that at least is an asset(which is bringing in double their gate reciepts now). They have a top manager who is unbelievable at finding young players FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD and getting them in on the cheap and then selling them for big money. They have a young sqaud full of class and i honestly expect them to challenge for the title this season. They are very good odds too. |
pete
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... You think, 'Well, you got quite close last year and suddenly another club has just stepped over you'. It kind of punctures you Martin O'Neill whos being negative now |
Frosty
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... You could say that of the other 16 clubs, why don't they conform to the top 4's way of thinking? Because they do not receive £40m each year from the champions league thats why. Also if you think Brums signings make them a stronger team than us think again, Bowyer and Ferguson in midfield Jesus! - Nice to see they lost 3 - 0 to Al Hilal  |
Tim Wood
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... Tim you're giving our name a bad......name, how exactly are the "scum" taking the piss BIG style? By signing such quality players as Lee Bowyer, oooooh i'm quaking in my boots!!! We haven't even played them yet and you are worried about losing to them, pathetic! Your comments are an absolute bag of horse w**k! |
Darren
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... tim - are you a blue nose? Would you be happy if we had signed Bowyer and Ferguson to replace Barry? |
statesidevillian
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... Direct quote from MON "We have enquired about quite a number of players and there has been encouragement in one or two places." Encouragement from one or two places isn't going to cut it, we need encouragement from 6 or 7 places!!  |
scottm78
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... I have to say i agree somewhat with villa4life, why make comments about other teams, even when asked, especially with the situation we have at our own club. This summer is absolutely vital for villa to get the players we desparately need to compete. Things MUST happen NOW !! I am shocked and dissapointed with the way things are going in the transfer market for us when knowing full well we are dangerously light on good footballers. Would it not have been ideal to go into pre season with at least the vital players needed to build the TEAM ethic. Very very concerned....... |
jk92923
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... nice one Cambridge.....glad to see decent opposing supporters on here unlike those Spurs scumbags! although i'd like to wish you luck in the new season, i still hope MON proves himself wrong  all the best! |
Jason
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... I did have a similar thought about what would happen if someone else breaks the top 4 - its only happened once recently with Everton, but they let Liverpool in the CL anyway when they came 5th. I don't think it would have much effect on Arsenal if they didn't make the CL, they spend and average of less than £5million a year on transfers under Wenger so they would be able to keep that up. Also they don't pay the highest wages - they only offered Ashley Cole £55,000 a week, when they other big clubs would pay him closer to £100,000. Liverpool or Man U would be the biggest losers - both are in massive debt, and Liverpool don't have that many Assetts, just 2 - Gerrard and Torres. Chelsea would be fine as Roman (although pissed off) would just take the hit. City are the same, so hopefully it will be Liverpool I've got to say - if they lose Alonso and Mascerano, of which it looks like they will lose at least one, with little time and few option for replacements of similar quality, they will be a similar standard to us. In fact if Torres or Gerrard were out with injury for any length of time we would finish ahead of them, and both have picked up injuries in the past. I know we are relient on A Young a bit to much, but with Downing being here, I think that will make us less predictable. I would still like Bentley as another option for creating things fron the wing. CD has to be prority though. |
Martin Clabon
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... welcome back AA Rob, feels a bit like Deadly Doug, waiting for the big teams to melt down financially then we make our move. But will it happen and who else will be there if it does. Hope you're right though It's a long game, as I've said before we could finish 8th this season without it being a disaster if we look like we are building for the future - building needs to start again pretty soon though |
Matt T
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... Yes Man City crashing the top 4 could cause problems and destabilise one of them, but that's really of no benefit to anyone within the next few seasons. Even if City beat any of the top four to fourth, the only people to benefit will be Man City. Arguing that it would mean that Liverpool or whoever would be removed from the top meaning it would be better is nonsense essentially because if they are removed, it's only because Man City have got in. Man City building an expensive team doesn't make it easier for us, Everton and the Spuds to take points off anyone in the top 4 either now or the next season. If you build a super car to be possibly faster than all current cars, you don't see people in hot hatches thinking it means they can jump up the pack... It's called improvement - if anything it leaves those who don't invest or develop further down the pack, not further up. As for the MON quotes - great bit of early mind games Martin, but I do believe time would be better focussed on dealing with some transfers before the end of August rather than trying to play with Hughes' head. |
George Hartless
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... Spanishjon It's not just the financial loss of failing to qualify for Champs League that will hurt the 'big 4'. You've also got to consider the impact on players. You've got to think that they will inevitably lose some of their bigger players because they are no longer dining at the top table so to speak. |
Darren
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... Spanishjohn - agree think it could be disasterous if it was Liverpool. United I think would be able to cope better, but obviously still a huge blow. I don't have a P/L for all the clubs but would be very interested to see how reliant the top 4 are on that £40m seeing as though it has been a consistent rev stream for the last few years. |
Martin Clabon
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... Simeon, strange post - your miserable so you want everyone else to be also, is that the correct interpretation or have I missed something? Suprised you are looking for uniformity even in disappointment |
woody
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... talk about blind optimism, for christ sake you o'niel lovers, take a look at his last 5 transfer windows, all bar 1 have been shite, a joke and an embarresment. he got luck with big john in a swap deal, i'll give him credit for ash young but they have been out done by the crap he's brought (salifou, rouledge, harewood, knight, mallony, shorey and the list goes on). so what makes you think this window will be any different, so far it's exactly the same as the others,A NONE EVENT!!! you all keep clutching at straws & believe all o'niels irish blarney, now you think there's some secret code WAKE UP FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. you are too easily pleased, we are 2 weeks away from the start of the season and we barely have a big enough squad for a 5-a-side tournament, this is down to his inept shite transfer policy (thats assuming he actually has one, oh yes....sell before we buy again). all you people backing o'niel should be ashamed and want him to do more for your club instead of f*****g about and talking about man city winning the title, if he's that interested in them let him be their manager. i can't believe any true villa supporter can be happy with his total lack of ambition in the transfer market AGAIN!! IT WOULDN'T BE SO BAD IF HE WAS A GOOD TACTICAL MANAGER, BUT HE ISN'T BY A MILLION MILES. |
Ronan Kenny
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... Really clutching at straws here Rob, MON has never been one for mind games if anything hes too honest. |
Tim
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... No ! Im not a Blue Nose ! I work with several Villa fans and Blue Noses and we all have colleagues and friends who support the Noses ! They are laughing at our inability to sign any players and now MON comes out with what appears to be a white flag to Man City. That will only make it worse as i also work with a couple of those ! If you look at our performances at the end of last Season then i think the Noses would probably beat us ! Remember they will want to prove that that 5-1 was a one off so they will be well up for it this season !! He should be trying to sign as many players as quickly as possible and if that means paying over the odds to get them to come then so be it !! To me MON seems to have given up all hope of ever breaking into the top 4 yet we were there last year 8 points clear of Arsenel until Laursen was out of action. Surely if we by the quality players that weve been linked with like Defour, Jovanovic, Tuncay and alike we could possibly take the 4th spot ahead of Arsenel. We deffinately need about 5-7 quality players not 2 ! Why does it seems that MON has given up all hope is it not worth at least trying to compete ? |
Ben Wood
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... Just for something a little different, and to prevent the same names from coming up again and again and again, can anyone suggest a player that we HAVEN'T been linked with this summer that would be a good signing for us. I've seen a few good suggestions here and there so let's get creative That means no Defours, no Huntelaars, no Bents, no Hangeland… not even a Nedum Onouha or a Stephen Warnock or an Alan Hutton. Give a name, an estimated fee and a reason why we should sign them. You never know who might be reading… I reckon we could do a lot worse than Stephen Hunt from Reading. £3m would probably get him and while I'd expect him to be a squad player, he is versatile across the midfield, has experience and a bit of steel about him when the going gets tough. He's the kind of fella that can help you see out a tough game where the likes of Ash and Downing might just be a bit "frail" for want of a better word. Any more suggestions? |
Tim Wood
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... Where is the evidence that MON has given up all hope? It sounds like you are the one thats given up all hope not MON. Just because things aren't happening the way you want them too. You sound like my 5yr old nephew squabbling over who gets to play with the best toy. Grow up! |
faangler
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...Why does it seems that MON has given up all hope is it not worth at least trying to compete ? Surely you don't really believe that ? |
Jason
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...It's not just the financial loss of failing to qualify for Champs League that will hurt the 'big 4'. You've also got to consider the impact on players. You've got to think that they will inevitably lose some of their bigger players because they are no longer dining at the top table so to speak. Mowgs: Yes I would have to agree with that, top players have big ego's and like playing in the CL and challenging for the title. I think these players might be happier in London and not in the CL as the capital seems to attract players, so I think Liverpool would be hardest hit. Spanishjohn - agree think it could be disasterous if it was Liverpool. United I think would be able to cope better, but obviously still a huge blow. Darren I think most the big four were pretty high on the global list of clubs making the biggest profit. This is down to many things including CL, TV rights (although thanks to the premiership it is spread evenly), season tickets and sponsors. If they don't win things and qulify for the CL, it will affect sponsors and season tickets, but they would have to fail for more than one year I think. So I would be hopeful if one of the big 4 didn't make it, we could step up and take their place, but I agree you would need to see details of their finaces before you can make a real assessment of how soon this could happen 1/2/3 years? |
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... Everton, spurs, Arsenal, have not spent big at all and frankley this has been a quiet transfer summer apart from Man city, but they are now at a different level financially. The only people complaining about city is the top 4 as yes they are worried they will loose there financial clout if they drop out of the top 4. I said the exact thing a while back that this season will be interesting as to what will happen at the top. I trust that MON is dealing with the size of the squad, but its no good buying in players who aren't going to improve us. There does seem to be a bit of cat and mouse going on as to see who makes the first move. The downing signing was a clever move, yes his injured but he will be back, MON was willing to take the risk and frankly it will be worth it. (and the medical staff would have backed him) Rob is right things are about to change at the top and it may end up being a top 6 teams or 7. I expect the points gap will be a lot closer as well. |
Leroy
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... Simeon, even for you that is such a stupid post...you have stated repeatedly that people should not post unconsidered drivel and not bag out the club without giving some reason... At least i can take some solice in the fact that you kept it under 2000 words, which is almost a first for you... I agree things could be a bit better on the personnel front, but lets wait and see what we end up with. Many other clubs are only just starting their wheeling and dealing.... |
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... Thanks keef and Sid. I've served my time in chockey for being naughty..! I'm on probation. Not sure when the tag comes off though..! I'll try very hard to be a reformed character on here. I've mellowed while I've been away contemplating life...haha |
Andy Pepper
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... 1211 BST: Aston Villa have been linked with a move for Tottenham striker Robbie Keane. West Ham defender Matthew Upson and Real Madrid forward Klaas Jan Huntelaar are also targets(brum Mail) |
antvillan
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... Tim - Who cares about the Blues?! We're so far ahead of them in every way now there hardly a concern anymore, other than on derby day. I agree with keefvilla - 'I think all MON is doing is putting pressure on Man City and lessoning expectation on Villa.' I'm trying to stay positive overall but I must admit I'm getting concerned at the lack of signings, roll on 1st September so we all know one way or the other what our ambitions will be this season. Villa4life - Good job you won't be a VP this season you miserable git! |
chiefy
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... it is depressing on here, what more can we ask for the mail has linked us with a list of players that i am sure no one can moan about, MON has said that things are moving, he has said while he is in spain it hasnt made any difference. We know he likes to leave things late and while frustrating sometimes this works out better for a number of reasons, and it has its down falls but this is how MON works, I am positive everything is going to work out and we will see some quality coming in sooner rather than later but instead of us all being depressed and worried about what if's cant we just look forward to what is going to happen. The good times are on the way back we just need to BELIEVE in our manager to do the right thing and i am sure he will. |
chiefy
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... i just think every year we do the same thing moaning about the lack of transfers even though we know our manager leaves it late every season. I personally love it it keeps everyone guessing which is frustrating but equally rewarding when you wake up one morning and villa have signed xxxxxxx becuase you dont see it coming. We love our club and we should trust our manager he has done us proud up till now so why would he undo all that hard work by not signing anyone or signing quality ????? he wouldnt and i assume he gets fat bonus the better we do so just have faith at least until the window is slammed shut. I think we will all be superised at what is going to happen |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... Well, City are going to change up something, that's for certain. I rather enjoyed MON's comments...He does put a dignified face out there for Villa, and, I think, is just addressing the obvious in typical MON style. Yes, there's pressure up top, yes they need the CL revenue, plus the extra gates, the international profile and merchandising sales, etc. yes, they have a bunch of bandwagon fans, and yes, they have a bunch of players who will only consider themselves fit for CL football. City will, one assumes take points off of them. For that to matter to us, we need to make sure we take our points. Since there have really only been the big blockbuster moves so far, this last stretch of window will be very interesting. It's been boring so far, but it will heat up, deals will get done...Just no way of knowing what the City and Real money have done to things. For example, it may take a little while for Real's Rejects to realize their only other options can't pay the same wages. |
Andy Young
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... Dear Mr O'Neill, It's clear from all of the inactivity at Villa Park that you're really struggling to bring players in this summer (you seem to be having no such problems letting players go every now and again, but that is by the by). We hear you -- you remain 'hopeful' of strengthening over the coming weeks. I perfectly understand that you're not willing to pay over the odds for anyone, and that anyone you do fancy bringing in has probably already been signed up by Citeh. So I have a solution: sign me up. "What???" I hear you say in your delightful North Irish lilt. But just give it some thought for a wee while, that's all I ask. And while you're doing so, just consider the following: 1) I'm a lifelong Villa fan and would be proud to wear the shirt. 2) I'd happily accept weekly wages of about one-sixtieth of what anyone in the current first team is earning. 3) I've a pretty good left foot, but would be content to play out of position on the right a la Luke Young. 4) You don't have to compete with Harry Redknapp in order to sign me as I think the man is a crook. 5) My name is A Young, so you could sell your current wing wizard for big bucks and put me in the side without anyone noticing. 6) I'm better than Isiah Osbourne and Moustapha Salifou combined. 7) Signing me up may not please every Villa fan reading Sky Sports news right now, but signing someone...anyone... might appease them for just a little while.  I like to watch women lap-dancing but don't need to leave my house to get my kicks. My wife (I believe I should be calling her a WAG?) does a perfectly good job in the bedroom. 9) I once had trials for Barnsley, so could probably make the starting line-up at some other Championship side like your beloved Leicester City. So what are you waiting for? Oh yes, for the transfer window to close... |
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... odysseynumberfive -- are you by any chance from Yorkshire...If you are then we have a Lions supposters club in Sheffield. Just google Sheffield Lions * not spamming Damian, just spreading the word to other Villans. |
gregdavillain
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... great article, super vision, i was thinking the same myself. When i first read the interview last night i was slighlt peeved and worried until it dawned on me this could be a good thing,it should defo make the league more compeditive and if we can bring in these long awaited signings we should do well |
ryan007
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... Just for something a little different, and to prevent the same names from coming up again and again and again, can anyone suggest a player that we HAVEN'T been linked with this summer that would be a good signing for us. I've seen a few good suggestions here and there so let's get creative That means no Defours, no Huntelaars, no Bents, no Hangeland… not even a Nedum Onouha or a Stephen Warnock or an Alan Hutton. Give a name, an estimated fee and a reason why we should sign them. You never know who might be reading… I reckon we could do a lot worse than Stephen Hunt from Reading. £3m would probably get him and while I'd expect him to be a squad player, he is versatile across the midfield, has experience and a bit of steel about him when the going gets tough. He's the kind of fella that can help you see out a tough game where the likes of Ash and Downing might just be a bit "frail" for want of a better word. Any more suggestions? i would go diego buonnotte, river plate. creative, clever and intelligent, definately a future star we would get him for about 8-10m oscar cardozo, benfica tall peruvian, world class finisher, wud be a natural replacement for big john £10m angel lafita/angel di maria both exiting, quick techniquely gifted, wingers tho we have enough now !!! £7-8m ezequel garay, madrid commanding argentine cb, tall, dominant and prob. cheaper in the madrid fire sale, £6m |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... Leaving things late: It only makes sense. People seem to like to assume that deals can all be agreed/planned beforehand, then the formalities taken care of when the window opens. But this is musical chairs. All teams looking to improve, all teams looking to sell for a profit, buy for a song, fill their needs, trim their surpluses. For example, why do we or Tottenham want to strengthen each other? Harry may not want Bent (MON may not want Bent) or Keane, or whomever, but that doesn't mean he wants to see them go to Villa. He can muck that up by waiting, asking for too much, keeping Villa hanging on, and so forth. Can he get better if he sells them on? Everyone making the same calculations except the very small clubs who simply have to look at different math, ie, selling at a big profit and then buying more numbers since they can't keep the player anyway once he's had his head turned. That's why this has been slow (the big money obviously making all sellers greedy)...and it will pick up once everyone accepts the big money has been spent, seen which really big players are moving (ie, the holes the big clubs need to fill), and so on. MON leaves it late because the first one to jump up and down and buy things usually pays well over the odds. And the only way to be first is to simply browbeat the seller with too much money to refuse. |
Faccundo
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... Xjarmeen Viduka - free, brillant hold up play, three times the player Heskey is. MON could motivate him back to champions league semi final form plus he broke the scoring record at Celtic aadmittedly before mon was there but should make signing easier. Pay as you play goal scorer bonus. Donkey boy outback to bluenoses or sh$terpool Nathan Burns - AEK Athens Bruce Djite - glencirbigli spiranovic - Nurnberg brilliant strong CB mon please listen and recruit cheaply outside England |
Billy7
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... i think MON is doing a great job for us. 16th-6th-6th! Fact! I understand why people moan about lack of transfer activity, but we cant judge (even if we sold Young, Carew, Etc) until the end of the season. I'd like us to sign Hangleand 12m. A right back as cover ( i like a lad called Bradley Orr from Bristol City, loves tackling) Warnock 6m, Defour 14m, Distin 4m? And Huntelar or Vagner Love, (price? Unsure) but that would be 40m ( if we sign right back for 4m) minus 16m (Barry knight) so 24m + 1 superstar, so 40m and 12 for Downing. 52m net spend. Just realised i am actually talking out my arse ent i! I'd like Delph too so it'd be 60m net spend wouldn't it! Lol. |
webby
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... top article im a city fan and although excited bout new season im more interested bout breakinup the monoply of these so calledtop four city villa everton spurs and the geordies are all big clubs in are own right but afer watch in envy these top four fakes playin champs league every year without standing a chance of ever getin in ourselves.no matter what exciting kids we bring through theyll take them. go back before prem and only liverpool were the only big club out of the four. everyone forgetin utd fifth from bottom finish in fergie first season. so city with the money can put a spanner in the works and hopefully open the door for the rest. mcfc. |
Faccundo
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... Mon why not Viduka he is available on a free? Better than bent don't waste ur cash |
Faccundo
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... He scores when his contract is up solution pay as u play contract with goal bonus it's what we can afford better than donkey boy who cost us games |
Stennett
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... I don't think Villa re in for Bent becuase we allready know Sunderland's price didn't match spurs? Maybe spurs want rid, so great skills, let him get oof the airplane so everyone thinks he is going to sunderland, Stall the deal so the media make out other clubs are intrested, (hull probably are lol) resulting in spurs getting the asking price for Bent from Sunderland |
Deano avfc
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... LIVERPOOL SIGN BENT!!! http://api.photoshop.com/home_f6af789f50f14ec681c315830bb2d97d/adobe-px-assets/66c7b10292954dd4a97bcdac9032c6d1 |
Deano avfc
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... http://api.photoshop.com/home_...30bb2d97d/ adobe-px-assets/66c7b10292954dd4a97bcdac9032c6d1 fits on now |
Faccundo
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... World Cup year so Viduka will try check his goal record far better than Heskey available on a free - remember his 4 against Liverpool |
Daniel Wilson
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... Viduka is unnavailable right now, he's busy filming the current series of celebrity fit club. |
Mike Carter
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...Spurs are building exactly the type of squad we should be! What, by throwing enough shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks? Not for me, thanks. |
ak_27
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... vivavilla i think Harry is far wiser in the transfer window then those that went before him. Spurs will be a force this season have no doubt about that. I hope im wrong as i really hate that club but they look to be moving in the right direction. |
Rich
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... toure moving to Citeh does't necessary mean Hangeland to Arsenal. Mr Wenger has said they have plenty of cover in that area and as stated earlier Hangeland would not be automatic choice. |
nchitti
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... Bit of info for you. Not a villa fan but i have a close insider link within the club. He tells me that you are very close to signing royston drenthe from real madrid. Negotiations have been taking place in spain over the last couple of days and the deal should go through soon. Also villa have had a bid of about 7m accepted for ryan shawcross of stoke so expect him to sign by the weekend. |
londonvilla
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... nchitti said: ... Bit of info for you. Not a villa fan but i have a close insider link within the club. He tells me that you are very close to signing royston drenthe from real madrid. Negotiations have been taking place in spain over the last couple of days and the deal should go through soon. Also villa have had a bid of about 7m accepted for ryan shawcross of stoke so expect him to sign by the weekend. Where is this from?? |
adam
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... sounds like my aunties,cousins,next door neighbours pidgeon flew over villa park and....... type of comment me thinks |
Tim
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... I see Stuttgart have made a 9 Million bid for Tuncay ! Yet another player we were after has been snapped up from under our noses ! Yet more doom and gloomon the Villa Transfer trail ! He lloked a good buy and i think he would have been good working alongside Carew etc, would also have given Gabby a bit of competition. |
Steve
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... shawcross seems a good defender but hes hardly the experienced centre half need to replace laursen is he. Guess if we get him, then we will also sign Distin. Then get drenthe in, a centre mid, a striker and possibly cover for right back and our squad looks a hell of a lot better and would be competitive |
Chrisodon
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... Tim.....Show me where Mon said i want Tuncay, and Where our supposed interest was in him other than the Daily rags that remember Mon saying he looked good playing for Turkey while commenting on a tournament. So it isn't another that slips under noses it was all just.....wait for it........SPECULATION!!!!. |
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... Agree Chris...Seeing as MON is more secretive than the British Secret Service we have no idea who MON is interested in. So no players that we are interested in have escaped from under our noses. I'm only slightly frustrated we ain't seen more activity by MON, but I'll judge at modnight on deadline day. Until then lets all just chill out and stop second guessing who MON has missed out on. If come the day after deadline day and MON has made a hash of the signings, then I'll show my displeasure, but up until that point all the evidence is not on the table to judge anything..!  |
Martin Clabon
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... re Shawcroft if we are going to sign a defender from Stoke surely it should be Abdouleye Faye (spelling?) He was an absolute monster every time I saw him last season (Live twice, TV about 4 times). Don't know how old he is |
Chrisodon
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... I Agree AA, We can only judge him once he's done his business untill then i'll make reserved comments. |
david mc gorrian
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... damien has free link posted its actually quite good.go to home page peace cup and its there.i watched saturday match on it first have wasnt great but nath sorted pic for second half and near perfect |
Michael panizza
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... Re; Peace Cup You can try this http://www.iraqgoals.net/ but Damian also gave some excellent links in the previous blog. |
Steve
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... Damian, I signed up to avfcforum.co.uk, how do I go about watching the games? Do i have to download anything? Thanks! |
adam1986
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... get ur bloody finger out martin, starting to lose fait in you, took u two years to replace aaron hughes, how long is it goning to take you to replace 2 centre halfs and barry? 10th place here we come!! |
Andy Young
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... AA, I am indeed and will do as you suggested. I'll be starting work in Doncaster shortly so Sheffield's just a small hop away. |
VillaDelight
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... "Heading upto the midlands for talks with Aston Villa, very exciting prospect to have the chance to work with Martin O'Neill." |
Wez
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... lmao well your been lied too mate cuz A)Why would he put it on his twitter page and B)why would he be in the midlands when villa are in spain C)STOP LIEING! |
Deano avfc
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... Lying... how do you find his page on twitter to prove he said it,link? UTV PS COME ON YOU VILLA!!!!!!! |
jason parkes
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... hunttelaar wants to join a english club please please please come on mon do us a favour |
Wez
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... if your talking about this bloke: db10thetruth then how are you absolutely certain thats the real darren bent anyone can join with that name its pathetic fair play to ya if your right |
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... odysseynumberfive -- if you look in the bottom left of the front page of the sheffield lions website the chairmans number (Bruce) is there. We car share to matches and plenty of nights out. Got a six a side soccer team, play in claret and blue! We are walking from Sheffield to Villa Park for the Man City game in October. Hoping to raise £5000 for Acorns! It will be a bit of a pub crawl..! I will post something in the forum on it. |
steveAV
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... faccundo 3 seasons ago i played with both nathan burns and bruce djite in the adelaide united reserves and while both are good players,they would struggle to get into a championship side. nathan burns plays on the right of midfield and is very slow and druce djite is fast but not good at finishing in front of goal. he is not a good player at all. neither of there records in australia were good and the league there is to a similar standard to league 2. not good signings and would site on the bench..................in the reserves. also, villa and liverpool were after burnsy before he went to athens and was available for 150,000 and neither team were interested at that price which is pennies to any team in the league. sorry mate, but not good players for the premiership |
Halfwit
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... Ihope the peace cup ends for us tonight so we can get back to England and O Snail can start looking for some players |
spitorswallow
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... ffs has mon told the team we need to win by 2 goals?? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
Ciaranzo
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... Petrov off injured and an own goal by Davies all in a minute of each other. Looks like another good night ahead. |
Rich
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... It gets worse Davies o.g SEriously hope Petrov's Ok - went off with arm supported sling-type with top |
Altan Kargaci
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... Lets hope Petrov has only dislocated it , 3-5 weeks if it is . Broken arm ....months..!!!!!! |
steveAV
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... what a load of shit. does MON really think we are a half decent team to compete next season. we need players NOW. randy get you finger out your ass and splash the cash. all talk when you took over....remember 30million for one player, whatever. we were all fed lies, i cant even be bothered to watch this game anymore, we look sooooo poor |
Hadders7
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... I know it's pre-season, but this is very poor stuff. Atlante are all over us and no signs of getting these 3 goals we need! If Petrov is seriously injured, we could be starting the season with half a dozen players! |
simo 09
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... can u believe wats happening now im an optimist but there only so much u can take & this is taking the biscuit |
Steve
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... Right from the first 20 mins of this terrible game and from last year it is clear we are in trouble in centre midfield. Whenever Barry was poor we looked unable to keep the ball and had no clue. Now i am not saying he isnt replaceable, because he clearly he is. But that person is NOT at the club at present. Coker can hassle but cant pass and Sidwell may score a few goals but his overall play is bottom half of the league standard. I like Petrov, but he isnt a real defensive centre mid but played well last season. At present our ball retention looks abject, and we only look a threat on the break with Young crossing for Carew. MoN we need a player maker in centre mid, or we are in trouble. Just as i say this, Petrov has gone off with looks like a bad shoulder/arm injury and Davis has scored an own goal. This looks a worrying time |
simo 09
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... so wat r all these believers believing now !!!! cos wat eva u av got 2 make u that way please share it out with the rest of us please please |
jaywillis
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... someone needs to teach Cuellar to pass, he's awful! looks like we wont be playing in the semi-final, we're rubbish! |
Rich
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... Trying hard not to over react to what is a pre season game, but we are seriously 2nd best. Can't string any passes together and still no shots either on goal or off. In fact its embarrassing. Petrov - shoulder injury. Need this not to be long term big time. |
gregdavillain
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... f**k didnt no da game started already, since laursen retired we miss his goals, its good to see davies add that to his game at last |
Steve
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... has sidwell offered anything yet? dont give me this "mourinho bought him so he must be good shite", becos he got him on a free like ben tal haim, so that means nothing |
RichT
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... This pre-season tour has been a disaster! Loosing to poor teams and getting two of last seasons best players injured in the process! If things looked grim before this then they look terrible now! MON- get home and get spending!!! |
simo 09
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... no pressure & we still cant string 2-3 passes 2getha f**king bulshit, av they been on the beach all f**king week or wat |
jaywillis
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... i cant see how a team with Carew and Heskey is going to work. I only just realised Heskey was even playing. Maybe its better we do leave so we can get back and sign some players. |
spitorswallow
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... weve been shit since feb and mon is either stupid or blinkered,we have had around 2 shots in total in 2 games in this poxy peace cup and now mon is sent off |
taglor
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... Whay are people saying its good mind games? what the f**k is good? he is complimenting them, you really think all tthose professionals will now play games and remember MON saying man city could win the league and then fall apart? you lot look into anything to try and sound more of a supporter than anyone else you sheep |
gregdavillain
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... oneills the only 1 getting stuck in, da link was great till oneill was arfuing wud love to have heard what he said! |
Ciaranzo
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... This is so bad it's getting funny now. O'Neill goes mental and then Davies falls over himself in the corner and gives away a corner when no-one is near him. If I wasn't laughing now i think i'd cry. |
steveAV
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... spanish commentator has just said its a dislocated shoulder that petrov has got. not good!!!!! |
ChicoHa,iltonsPants
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... Possible broken arm 4 petrov davis own goal o'neil sent off albrighton goal. Villa r the Best!!!!! |
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... That MON sending off was more interesting than the match. Come on Albrighton 1-1...! |
Deano avfc
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... I dont know whats more annoying, the fact he says Car-ew or the fact we cant string 3 passes together UTV |
Steve
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... Think MoN's reaction showed he knows we are well and truly in trouble partic now without petrov |
viva villa
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... mon f**king out now!!!! had enough! he is a f**king w****r!!!! i really hope petrov is injured for the whole season so that mon can get kicked out!!!!!! |
Goldie 7
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... Not such a good 1st half display but atleast we scored i say bring on osbourne for the 2nd half he looked hungry last time. |
Ed Villa
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... can someone please xplain what happened with petrov/MON as I missed most of 1st half..... |
spitorswallow
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... iv seen mon have more action than heskey in this match,get this dope off at ht and send him down the beach selling fake gold watches |
Altan Kargaci
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... Started badly but definetly getting more into it , Albrighton looks good . John Car roo, Car roo .....!!! |
Please sign some quality and fast!
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... How long you usually out for with a discolated shoulder? |
Billy7
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... viva villa..... Grow up mate. Whats the matter with u? This is pre-season, who cares about the result? I dont. At all! I care from August 15th. You are talking out of your arse. MON IS NOT A w****r, LOOK CLOSER TO HOME p***k. We beat Inter Milan in a pre-season, it meant nothing, just get fitness levels up!!! Newcastle playing tonight, no Martins! He is on his way to someone! |
toastman
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... petrov has got injured looked like possibly a dislocation. You can see we need some extra quality in this squad. |
Eoin Greene
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... Sidwell and Reo-Coker would be a bad midfield pairing in the Championship!! Davies and Cuellar would possibly be the worst center back pairing the the premier league. It just goes to show how much we relied on Barry and Laursen. |
ChicoHamiltonsPants
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... Get sidders off looks like a liability and there looks like potential for Carew to give Heskey a slap... they don't seem to be getting on!!! hahaha |
toastman
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... spitoswallow we don't play well with 2 big men upfront, we are missing gabby and delf |
Daniel Wilson
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... Wow, we are poor and for the first time I actually think I want Davies out of the starting XI. Cuellar looks great in his correct position, and we need someone to partner him that isn't afraid of the ball. Having nightmares about Petrov right now, we are well and truly fooked if he is out for any serious time, he did not look happy. We are lacking something, they just don't look like a team out there, maybe because of the use of so many youngsters, but i'm really worrying now. Think they need some new faces to boost them and so do us fans. Don't usually feel this BAD about us, but right now I have little hope for anything... |
Wez
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... dan i think the last 15 mins were ok it mite just be cobwebs but i agree about davies and sidwell SHOCKING! |
spitorswallow
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... i dont care about pre season results but our performances since FEB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have been utter shite and shows no sign of changing.SACK THIS CLOWN NOW and bring ack gregory |
Rich
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... Read the text commentory from the Official site. Hillarious. hat game are they watching - Rotterdam 82???? - it's so upbeat. |
CHRIS AVFC
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... bit over the top about mon but i can understand ur frustration! boys think about it, pre season tour introduce the kids to the first team get their reputations up with the fans, increase the valuation and flog them to our rivals..sound good? we need players and fast especially now petrov's buggerd. ideally we need; upson/hangeland, defour/veloso, delph (for the future) and a 20 goal striker i have no suggestions though! more than likey we'll end up with distin, huddlestone and bent now id have bent but i cant see him taking us any further than we are. realistically i reckon we will not improve on last season in the league but i fancy a good cup run. but saying this i dont mean that we shouldn't aim higher. enjoy the 2nd half UTV |
ChicoHamiltonsPants
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... The only youngsters starting were Lichaj and Brad, the rest have enough experience. So i don't think u can blame the youngsters for them not looking like a team. Sorry DanWilson82 |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... Well, I won't say that was an impressive first half, but Albrighton does look promising. |
FatKevs
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... Can anyone now blame Gareth for leaving, as i have said yes he has got money but a real dream to fight for, not just a silver plate from someone that has alredy qualified. Lets all give him a proper welcome when he returns to villa park even though we will be in the shit |
John Edwards
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... Prediction - Osbourne comes on and actually carries the ball forward at speed - something we desperately need |
simo 09
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... 'its only pre season calm down' im sorry were 2 weeks away from the season & we cant pass a f**king ball 2 each uva wat the f**k do they do in training dont they they play wiv each uva then or way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
spitorswallow
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... goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa allllllllllllllllllllllll carew,were gonna win the league |
Fitzy_7
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... carew's on FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! WOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOO to the tune of fire by kasabian |
erik
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... Mines perfect off the free link damien posted no lag, good quality: http://www.footyfansforum.co.uk/livestream/ |
dan
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... http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/sports-usa its got american commentry, they are funny. |
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... Sorry but Sidwell is total shite. He needs selling straight away. I'd take just about any midfielder than him! |
Imran Patel
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... I'm with you AA but with petrov injured now and the american commentator saying it could be a broken collar bone need to keep him. NRC looks good though |
jay76
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... bfastvilla, go up alf way through the comments theres a link off monkeywrench, iraq tv it sound m8. |
rob h
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... what are the fickle turncoats thinking now? support man u if you want it al plain sailing. I am behind my team through thick and thin. GET IN |
Martin Clabon
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... maiter p we're in this thong called a transfer window which means it's possible to sign another CM. Not going to hold my breath though |
fastbackace01
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... marc looks good, i think i like him better on the right than milner. a goal and assist. f**king sick kid. carew looks good. reo looks back, and heskey reminds me of a tree... not doing anything! |
Imran Patel
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... i think albrighton and the kid at right back whose name i can never spell lol should be given a chance this season in the 1st team that ball for the goal was exquisite |
Steve
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... Rob H - im not fickle at all, but i can tell you today, that Steve Sidwell does not have the ability to replace Barry. Reo Coker can take over from Petrov, if Stan is out, but we still need a quality centre mid. We have again scored all our goals against the run of play and on the break against a poor team and still cant keep hold of the ball. |
Imran Patel
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... sidcowanslovechild at the risk of sounding negative do you honestly think we will sign a cm |
toastman
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... albrighton looks impressive so we have A young, milner, Downing, Albrighton thats not bad |
rob h
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... fickle fickle fickle we are the shitest team in the world cant even beat atlante!! same shit different day time to eat your words |
Imran Patel
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... toastman out that midfield 4 who do you think will break the play down like petrov |
Martin Clabon
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... Mister P,dunno, if we do hope it's a good one. As I keep saying, quality not quantity cos some of the kids look like they can be cover at least. Last close season Bouma broke his ankle and MON suddenly signed some full backs - maybe Petrov's injury can hurry him along? |
ruffy
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... "Now, what we need is for Martin O'Neill to go out and bring in five or six very good players who all strengthen our starting line up. Bring in the strong back line, add some flair and get us a twenty-goal a season striker. I think he will" f'me you are an eternal optimist aren't you!!!!!! My point is what on earth is the point in achieving a european spot? The Uefa or Europa leagueas it now is is basically just a hindrance as proved last season. Finishing in the top 6 or 7 is worth it yes, but unless he decides that the 2nd European trophy is actually something worth fighting for, he may as well play the b team in all rounds. Personally I believe it is well worth fighting for as its a serious bit of silverware and still a prestigious competition. (ask the russians!) |
jaywillis
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... id be quite happy to sacrifice 2 squad player signings and have lichaj and albrighton in the 1st team. Reo-Coker is having a good game too. |
Imran Patel
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... we need someone i hope we get someone with a bit of flair someone who can start things in the middle jenas and huddlestone just aren't that type of player |
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... fastback..It would be criminal to sell Hokey. Play him in the right position and he will sort the midfield. Sidwell is soft as shite. He is useless! |
Martin Clabon
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... AA, I know - I always over react either way but feeling good no matter how important the game and how shortlived. The kids doing well is the only plus point of close season so far. Guzan, Licaj, Albrighton - add Forrestor, Clarke and Fonzi and there's some good cover there |
Phil
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... When in mid field reo-coker is a solid player, just not very cutting egde or quick, but great stamina. A good squad player |
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... I'll tell you what, Albrigton really uses his head. He dunt just hoof it anywhere under pressure. Class act this lad. |
Rich
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... Lets be objective and fair. Hokey Cokeys' having a pretty good game tonight. Guzan also staking a claim. |
Eoin Greene
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... Biggest plus for me tonight has been mini Brad - i think its time for him to get a run in the first team. Albrighton also looks good - but dont think he will get any starts this season bar the carling cup. Also nice to see Young being used up front,,,,,,,its definitely a good option for us. Sidwell and Davies - never have been or never will be good enough - thats just my opinion! |
fastbackace01
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... i would kiss martins ass if we got defour!!! i want him in so bad. and some american players. |
rob h
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... coker is mom for me closely followed by cuellar, albrighton, young, carew, shorey ..... hold on the moaners keep telling me we have a shit team?? keep the faith boys. with reinforcements we will be up there |
paul villa
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... i think he will come and some real quality youngs no mug he would be on his bike if he thought we were going to struggle next year think richards may come as well |
Eoin Greene
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... rob - how? I like to think I give credit where credit is due. My opinions on Sidwell and Davies are based on seeing them for the past few seasons.... |
gregdavillain
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... theres some lovely play between da younsters easy seeing teyve played a lot together |
Deano avfc
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... jinksey.. Reo-coker is f**king the worst player you've ever seen? that's disgusting! by the way who is this worst player? UTV |
gregdavillain
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... YESSSSSSSSSSSS how fickle i am the gloom has lifted with a win is a win is a f**king win get in there!!! |
paul villa
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... for so called supporters alot of negativity here try supporting the team instead of findingf any excuse to get on there backs look at gabby last season getting booed by his own fans sad really |
Daniel Wilson
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... Very Happy the boys just put egg all over my face. Second half they came out and looked up for it, something we have rarely looked like being for a long long time. Albrighton - great game and my man of the match. Less of the first half dismall crap and more of the motivated stuff of the second please. PRAYING Petrov is ok... |
Martin Clabon
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... Jinksy, I don't see how you can say that, he was miles better than Sidwell tonight |
rob h
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... paul villa exactly!!!!! where are all the fickle tossers that said we were the shitest team going a half time??? support the team through thick and thin?? yeah right |
Jinksy
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... SidCowanslovechild - He is RUBBISH & always will be...Sidwell isn't that good either. I thought the kids showed them both up. But lets get this right Sidwell is a better footballer than Coker. |
Altan Kargaci
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... Great second half performance , well impressed. Cuelluar should definetly play at CB more. He was awsome, shame the same can not be said for Davies. Albrighton is easily ready for the first team proper, he can cross , take on people and he runs and runs ! If Reo C could just pass the bloody ball he would be up there with the best ....but he can't!! UTV |
oldvillan
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... some excellent youngsters,i think we will see more of them this season,guzan and albrighton are ready now. |
ChicoHamiltonsPants
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... Now 4 new buys and then world domination!!! Whos the Real Madrid striker the commentator was talking about Navarjo or something like that??? |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... Albrighton defo looked class. Composed, aggressive. NRC...Actually had a good game for him, some good balls. Higher percentage of good balls, I should say. And all the lovely one-touch football from the Mexicans equaled...anyone, anyone? No goals. |
Abdul Kashif
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... Who do we play next??? Coker is still a pretty useless passer although he did get stuck in. Sidwell wasn't too great either. Young's goal was excellent and a great cross from Albrighton. Credit to Guzan, Lichaj and Albrighton. Guzan sure loves to shout! |
toastman
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... what this fickle lot don't realise its only pre-season and it take a while to get back into match fitness and sharpness, It was good to see the kids out thier and Albrighton looks the part. I would go as far as saying albrighton might get a game or two this year. I would have played him against newcastle last game of season. I can see why MON wanted Delf out there to see how he is comming on at this level. The Mexicans were ok but ran out of steam. |
testie
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... Reo seemed to play quite well not sure what peoples problem is with him, i can see him starting now Stan is injured any ideas how long he will be out for? |
Altan Kargaci
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... Also thought brad junior looked the part tonight, good hands, confident with crosses and good shot stopping. Maybe the future is bright after all !!! UTV |
Wez
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... Jinksy, How can you say the kids showed up Reo Coker tonite, he was back and forward tackled and ran his f**king arse off tonite he was brilliant apart from albrighton he was our best player f**k sake i dont think he's the best player but he had a good game admit it!! FFS!!! |
simo 09
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... gotta hand it 2 em that 1st half was as shite as they come,but boy wen they get there heads 2getha we can play,well dun the lads, reo coker & albrighten haad & shoulders above them all,with regards 2 sidwell i was a fan but its no gud doing it against peterboro,colchester ect..... these are the games he needs 2 impress but sadly he dont. |
jaywillis
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... Did I hear the commentator say that Harewood weren't on the bench. Maybe he's on his way back to the UK to sign for someone. I hope so anyway! If Petrov is out for a while I think Nige can come in and do a great job! |
paul villa
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... i love villa and go and sit in the holte asd often as possible work permitting i just think we should a bit more faith in martin oneill he hasnt done nothing yet to make us doubt him. sure a few bad transfers but what manager doesnt ,look at are young players all english not many teams can boast that.alot of people on here say buy him buy that player but they would be first to moan if mon bought just say tevez for 25 mil and was shit all i say is be patient he knows whats he wants and i think he will try 110 percent to achieve this in the best and most appropriate way to villa have a bit of patience and faith |
taglor
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... Funny, all the idiots sayin its only pre season the other day are now saying how important this is lmao sheep |
James Clift
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... Maybe Albrighton & the yank right back may be used a bit this season but we still massively need 2 central defenders a central midfielder and a striker. |
FatKevs
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... MoN Scaqred the life out of me with the Subs. Great to see the unseen kids though. For me Reo did great at breaking up the play concidence will help his final ball. We must have a quick midfielder by him ready to recieve the ball as he wins it. Mini Brad a long way off but i would have him as 1st Choice then old Brad can decide if he really wants it or just to fade away. |
Martin Clabon
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... Jinksy, better going forward but not a better tackler / destroyer or as mobile. Neither can pass great I must admit |
rob h
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... taglor just like the whinging, two face back stabbing turncoats like you were saying we cant even beata shot team form mexico are now cheering the boys on. or the comments that the youngsters arent good enough to step up to sqaud plaers now saying they are shit hot? similar argument aye? |
toastman
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... rob h I agree with you, about Albrighton, maybe he can do the job on the right. what can bentley do that he can't |
limerick villan
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... boys we`re back!!!!!!!!!!!! MON masterstroke getting sent off rised them to the challenge. WILL THE REAL MESSIAH PLEASE STAND UP PLEASE STAND UP! |
Woz_uk
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... When Sidwell went off did anyone else think he looked like a man who had played his last game for Villa?? |
taglor
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... rob h, I think you have got yourself over excited and think we have won the world cup, lmao we beat some shite mexican team, grrrrrrrreat |
simo 09
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... no i werent actually rob h iactually sed that they cudnt pass a ball between them 1st half & that we were shite which if u ask any1 i think u'll find they thought the same,but as i put fair play 2 em wen they get it 2getha they played well |
Wez
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... Taglor, no 1 said it was important just that it was a good performance and result so f**k off and wait for us to lose so you can carry on moaning dicked |
James Clift
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... taglor, Thats because all football fans have the same mentality. One minute we slag our team off then something small happens and we all love our team, its what being a football fan is all about and what makes it such a great game. Your comments are sometimes quite interesting yet others like the one above make you look a complete idiot. |
brum in the south
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... get in there!! dont ever doubt us!! reo coker what a game, yes he cant pass too well, but what determination in what is a meaningless friendly!! albrighton or delph? i will let you decide!! utv |
Altan Kargaci
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... SSN , breaking news about the Villa.....Stiliyan Petrov dislocates shoulder. How long will that take to heal ? |
rob h
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... ok guys you know from my post earlier i try and read into things. perhaps a little too much... but mon was obviously keen to see us progress. he must have really inspired the boys at half time. so why? does he not want to get back and sign some players? or are there some loose ends to tie up in spain????????????? |
oldnick
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... for christsake people reo coker maybe the nicest person in the world, he may wear his heart on jis sleeve, he may also give his all and yes he can break up play!!! but he is so fookin bad at playing football, terrible, terrible, teribble. p.s..please excuse my grammer, i have had a drink |
Rich
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... abz1888 - begrudging praise of Reo, sounded as though through gritted teeth, yet credit Lichaj. Unfortunately responsible (with Curtis) again for their goal as per Malaga game. Can't afford this once the season starts; it will cost us. |
rob h
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... oldnick a little harsh. he showed tonight he can do a job. he still has a part to play |
Daniel Wilson
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... I feel sorry for anyone that thinks were permanently amazing and that a bad word shoud never be uttered about us wheather or not we play like a sunday league team. I feel equally as sorry for the people who never shut up moaning and only appear when we lose to have a dig at mon and the team. Get some perspective. Were all fans, most of us could see in the first half we sucked tonight. We can also say, come second half, something clicked and we got some belief in ourselves and played like a team with passion. If wanting the best for the team makes me or anyone alse fickle, well feck it, i'm fickle! |
Wez
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... Atlan it depends how long it was out for my knee popped out for about 15 seconds and went back in after I jerked I was out for 3 weeks but it can be anything upto 8 weeks |
simo 09
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... no probs rob h,just dont like 2 see players who train with each uva 6 days a week not string a couple passes 2 getha thats frustrating,anyhow im a believer all the way u.t.v unlike sum on here |
FatKevs
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... Winning tonight does feel like the winning the world cup. The Club has lost all momentum the Yank has little interest other than hope The Clubs soul will always belong to the Fans managers & chairman come & Go i will feel great for a few hours because i honestly do not think there will be much to cheer about this season |
brum in the south
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... old nick ian taylor was not the greatest footballer in his era!! nige has the ability to emulate him pretty soon!! give him the central mid berth for 3 months and you will see the rewards of a true leader |
rob h
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... dan wilson yes you can whinge but saying the players are shit and sack the manager is pushing the point of just being diasappointed |
Martin Clabon
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... taglor, it wasn't an important game, but good to win neverthless don't you think? It isn't a rationale thing being a football fan is it. When we win I'm delirious even for a crappy little friendly and if we lose I'm in a right sulk. Wish I could be more mature but there you are. Also with our shit run of form we really need some wins to get confidence up |
Abdul Kashif
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... Rich, Well, it was an honest criticism. There's no doubt he works hard but he screws up simple passes far too often. He gets stuck in and gives 100% and that's what we'll need if Stan is missing for a while. I gave credit to Lichaj and the others because they've stepped in and stood out as the new guys... |
rob h
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... simo thats cool. everyone knows where i stand. I love the club and i think the players and manager NEED our support. seriously tho you add 5 or 6 quality players to that team and those youngsters andwhere do you think we could be come may? |
FatKevs
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... Rob do you think we will get 5-6 quality players. I would happilly settle now for 5 good young players. |
Martin Clabon
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... taglor, despite those shortcomings you rightly point out, you are happy we won though? Rob H, about to break the 400 comments barrier and got some positive comments from Fat Kevs, you must be proud! Helps to have a game on when you're last post I guess - but still well done |
soupy
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... i thought that the first half we were poor no excuses but second half we made it look easy minus sides petrov got injured, sidwell jus seems too lack confidence bcause he can play, reo who can be a handful at times couldnt pass wind hesky need i say more and davis looked shakey more than once on the plus side ashleys position up front was great lichaj and the other youngsters played well we got the 3 goals we needed and the 3 big bonusses albrighton looked exceptional a goal an assist good passing and ran his socks off ,we have gabby milner gardner fonso downing l young and freddie all to join the sqaud again plus we have a full month of transfers left i'm sure this has givin mon the chance to assess the team and make the signings we need to progress like he does season in season out |
oldnick
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... brum in south i hope ur right, i really do but to compare coker with taylor is a crime in my mind. |
rob h
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... fat kevs i honestly do. really. mon will not let this season slip away. he is a winner |
Pat
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... Stan should b out 4 up 2 6 weeks,pity cause we r lite in numbers as it is.Martin is going 2 need @ least 6 new faces no mater who they are,just 2 get us 2 Jan 10. |
Rich
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... You never win anything with youngsters. For Scholes, Butt, Neville, Giggs and Beckham read HERD, ALBRIGHTON, LOWRY, LICHAJ, WEISSMANN, BANNON, CLARKE and anyone else I've forgotten! |
viilajoe
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... Rob don’t you have any insider information you were right about Downing!!! Come on give us a clue keep us on a high lets break the famine |
rob h
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... sid cowans.... thankyou. it the gold star! you have a strnage knack of giving complements in a subtly sarcastic way. whether that is intenttional or not i dont know |
brum in the south
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... old nick fair play! maybe i went a bit over the top with that comment! but you cant doubt we need more hearts like coker has! |
rob h
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... villa joe no insider..... i live in four oaks and am very good friends with villa coach's daughter and spend some time at their place. |
FatKevs
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... I have never Rated Curtis Heskey or Sidwell i complaind prior to them all arriving. Curtis i guess will look great on the training ground lovely bloke but no Balls, Heskey leicester, Sidwell money grabbing bench warmer (Kashoul). |
Stennett
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... Just got back in from work, heard MON got sent to the stands? lmao Anyway anywhere i can see highlights? |
woody
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... yahoooooo we've found the answer....f**k o'niel off and we play better and win. c'mon randy get rid and get Jose in |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...SidCowanslovechild said: We scored that one, too, sid! |
Steve Badger
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...so wat r all these believers believing now !!!! I'm believing you're an idiot, typical of most on here who make judgements before things are finished, same as the transfer window. Pr*ck. Must admit the first half hour was dire though. No midfield, no posession and no threat. Albrighton MOM by a mile, NRC played excellently, the only one with any grit, but still gave the ball away. Sidwell, how can a midfielder look so anonymous. I like him but he's not the one for me. Taglor, they're the Concacaf champions you mug. Can't you ever be happy about something??? viva villa, mon f**king out now!!!! had enough! he is a f**king w****r!!!! i really hope petrov is injured for the whole season so that mon can get kicked out!!!!!! What a w****r!! and I don't think I've ever called even taglor that! |
Jinksy
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... brum in the south - Albrighton is right Footed , Delph left footed how can yopu compare they are totaly different players. It's like saying Shorey or Carew.... |
Martin Clabon
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... Dan, I was saying a similar thing the other day. The moaners depress the life out of me but some times have good points. The happy clappers (of which there are suprisingly few on this site nowadays) lay themselves open to ridicule when they are over the top and more importantly a massive backlash of disappontment when over optimism proved wrong. Churchill will hunt me down and kill me for this but last year those who thought we were challenging for the title and had a squad as good as top 4 were on something. I hoped we would hang on to 4th or better but it would have been over achievement. It is possible we can become a really top club over time not over night and the down side of over optimism is bubble bursting, disillusionment, moaning and then driving managers and players away. Maybe I'm too easily satisfied but if we can consolidate this season (6th to 8th) if we see signs of improvement (quality signings, kids developing, runs in cups and/ or Europe) that is not necessarily a bad season. Many on this site, moaners and optimistics will likely have have strokes by February. Perspective needed - progress never in a straight line, Moyes has had a couple of set backs in league but come back stronger than ever because he had the backing of fans and board. Can we be as strong? Of course if you think MON is a moron you don't want to give him time but swapping managers regularly is not often the route to success. I don't believe MON is a moron |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... And don't get me wrong...I'd like to see us play with a little more composure, string some passes together, kill off an opponent's momentum, etc., exert a bit more control. It's like we only have one gear, and that's attack, as fast as possible, whatever the score, however much time is on the clock. But, Atlante stringing together passes...anyone can do it at this level if that's your emphasis, one-touch to someone who's in space in safe areas, knocking it about. It's eminently more difficult to turn that into scoring goals is what I'm on about. We do alright creating chances and scoring most of the time. I'd just like to see a higher line and more composed defending. And, yes, some spells of innocuous possession wouldn't hurt anything when we're up. |
ak_27
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... Just back from watching the game. Some good aspects and some very poor ones also. Albrighton looked very composed on the RW. I couldn't believe my eyes to see good balls dlivered from there. Kept forgetting that it wasn't Milner out there. NRC was fantastic. But he will do that on occasion which is why we should hold onto him. For now anyway. As for Sidwell and Davies im sick of coming on here and telling you how bad both these players are. And both are park of the spine of this team. Maybe this inj will force MON to bring in at least one more CM. As for MON's sending off that was very weird. Why do that in a friendly game over a nothing incident? Totally out of charcter. To me it showed he is really feeling the pressure of getting players in. That was the action of a man under a lot of stress. Finally i thought Cullar was solid and hopefully with a half competent defender beside him he will become a good player for us. |
David Tyler
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... Read back through the posts... some of you need to roll with things a bit. I'm glad we won - I always am - but defeat would by no means have been any grounds to be shouting for MON's head. What was it Rudyard Kipling said about triumph and disaster? I guess it doesn't matter, he probably didn't have a pre-season fixture in mind where 4 of our 1st team squad have yet to join up. Sheep? It's not the sheep that will drive MON away from Villa park. Here's my team for next season: Aston Villa and the year after, ad infinitum. |
Martin Clabon
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... Rob H, no sarcasm intended, love your work. I just don't want you to be disappointed and end up as Simeon Mark II!! |
viilajoe
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... A bit random, but I visited my mum today and she dug out my Villa 1977 League Cup winners mug, anyone else remember those replays against Everton or am I the only old git?! |
Pat
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... Martin is in 4 Rory Trainor,he says he can get us into the top 4 with his eye 4 goals.They say he is the NEW Shaw. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...As for MON's sending off that was very weird. Why do that in a friendly game over a nothing incident? Totally out of charcter. To me it showed he is really feeling the pressure of getting players in. That was the action of a man under a lot of stress. I dunno, ak, have to disagree with you here, mate. It seemed the Mexicans were playing rather cheapshot and mean football for a friendly, and the official wasn't helping anything. He was atrocious. I think MON was not happy with the performance, not happy with the diving, etc., not wanting to see any more players injured. I think he was basically telling the guy to stop acting the pr*ck, get up, play football. Don't think it had much to do with transfers. |
ak_27
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... SidCowanslovechild you seem to be changing the goal posts. Now you are saying that 8th wll be consolidtating? 7th and 8th is going backwards and should be seen in no other way. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...viilajoe said: I remember the replays. I was at Wembley for the "first" final, only Cup Final I've ever been to, and it was 0-0! |
Martin Clabon
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... Rob H, Simeon was a happy clapper last season when we were doing well and since it fell apart he has become one of the biggest MON critics on the site - which is what I mean by the optimistic bubble bursting and causing a back lash. So I don't want you becoming another Simeon, very unlikely I know |
ak_27
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... kohoutek Young had done the exact same to his man one min before. What im saying is ive never seen MON do anything like that in any game of real consequence. Why do it in a Peace Cup game. I might be taking too much from it but i could'nt believe it when i seen it. It was funny as hell though. |
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... Sid and Dan...At least there are others that can can at least be objective and are neither moaners or sheep..! By god, it's refreshing. |
rob h
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... sid cowans no chance i have too many friends close to villa it would never be allowed. I may seem a bit ott with my bigging up the team but i think it necssary at times to balance things out. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... ak...It was funny, I agree. Didn't he get into it with someone during an EPL game last year? Or am I just imagining things? |
ak_27
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... He did. Was it wenger he had to be held back from? I suppose he does have some history of doing that so. The funny thing is the guy probaly couldn't understand a thing he was shouting at him. |
taglor
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... Aside from my full time job of analysing and criticising the Villa, yes I am really bloody happy we won! |
keithj
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... kohoutek, saw the 0-0, bit late at sheffield had to share a taxi with everton fans from station, couldnt get to third |
Martin Clabon
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... AK, not really moving the goal posts, I see what you are saying. It needn't be a disaster if we are looking stronger in other ways than league finish. I think you would agree that finsihing top 4 last season would have flattered us and not told the whole story (quite lucky with injuries, small squad, passing and ball retention needing improving. So the converse can also be true with a slightly lower league finish masking strengthening elsewhere (better football, stronger squad, better defense, kids developing. Still, hypothetical for now because with the exception of some of the kids showing early promise none of this has happended yet. I would still ratherr look on bright side though as negativity can ccause a downward spiral. Any way, enough crap, I'm off to bed |
Steve Badger
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...Aside from my full time job of analysing and criticising the Villa, yes I am really bloody happy we won!  Nice one son. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...The funny thing is the guy probaly couldn't understand a thing he was shouting at him. "Que? Que?" |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...viilajoe said: I've never been been so excited in all my life. I guess I was 12 then, first time at Wembley. God, I loved those players. Who was the Everton star, Duncan... (Ferguson?) hit the crossbar. I think that's the closest anyone came the first time round. Getting old, can't remember names! Course, he wasn't one of ours. |
ak_27
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... Sid i would agree with that if the football has improved and maybe we are pipped to 7th. But if we finish 7/8 well off 6th playing the same predictable football then serious questions need asking. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...keithj said: Funny, all these years later, here we are on the internet. Well done, though, 2 out of 3 cup finals isn't bad! |
keithj
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... i wish a lot of you could have been with me travelling to gig lane, vetch field, etc, when we were in the old 3rd division, then we would all believe |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... ^^ There have been rather darker days indeed. But they were always the Villa, and they were always going to come good eventually. |
ak_27
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... rob h there are some classic video's of MON hitting his head when Celtic scored back when he was manager. But you are right. That is one of MON's great aspects. His passion on the sideline seems to rub off on the players on the pitch. It would be hard not to get up for it with that lunatic on the sideline. |
viilajoe
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... We are Aston Villa we have a proud history and we never do things easy way- lets get behind Martin and the boys. Being a Villa fan is a not just about supporting a team it’s a good lesson in life too. The future prime minister and King of England are behind the Villa. |
keithj
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... 4 of us on the way back from huddersfield, just lost 2-0, stopped at a pub on pulls a roller, it was doug. asked us to watch his motor and sent out a salver of sarnies, and people reckon he was tight |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... You never know really know the whole truth, keithj. It's always somewhere in the middle. |
rob h
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... wonder if mon walked off tonight with his arm around albrighton and said 'your a genius, genius' |
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... jesus christ some of the points on here are just awful, ak 27 if we finish in top 8 serious questions need to be asked!!!!! get a grip mate, i would be pleased top 8 , no one can compete with city, they are likely to compete at the very least for europe, add spuds to that mix, and the top 8 will be nip/tuck all season, how can you be so unrealistic??? we will buy, and buy what we need, but even then its a far tougher league this year, utd are gonna drop more points than b4, its gonna be very tight this year, top 8 for me - man u chelsea liverpool arsenal city villa everton spurs my opinion, but even in 8th we would have no need to ask questions!!o niel is doing a good job but we aint city or chelsea, why cant we all be proud that we do things differantly, you negative lads, you think me and rob h (the positive ones) dont get frustrated at times??? you think we dont want huntelaar and ronaldo and messi and kaka??? we are villa and we all care but man get real, top 8 is not good enough any more!!! forgot us nearly goin down under o' dreary, wasnt that long ago!!! |
ak_27
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... 7 and i supose then the year after finishing top 10 is also a sucess. Have i forgotten that DOL nearly got us relegated? No. Have you forgotten that he nearly got us champions league football only to go backwards afterwards? There is being positive but then there is being blindly accepting of everything MON does. We will wait to see how the season pans out but i already see some on here lining up to now count finishing 8th as a positive thing. It seems to be more about being a MON supporter then a Villa supporter at the moment. Yes we are not Chelsea and City but we are Aston Villa not Fulham or Sunderland. Some would have us believe we are a team that got promoted from the championship a few years ago just to excuse MON's flaws. |
ak_27
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... 7 and another thing tell me this? If we were to finish 8th this season what is it that MON could do next season to move us forward that he can't do right now? |
limerick villan
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... ak 47 wats up with u dude?? obviously your glass is half empty. For gods sake if u want to make comments like that wat u doing being a villa supporter! |
Steve Badger
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... ak_27, That's not very realistic mate, imo. I know it's the same old ground we're going over, but surely you can't expect us to be challenging for the title? We'll finish higher than Fulham and Sunderland, so why you mention those, I don't know. Anyway, back to my original reason for posting. On the OS, MON has picked out Young for doing really well (which I agree with). My instinct would have been to praise Albrighton to the highest. But then, on second thoughts, keep his feet on the ground. Probably a typical Cloughie type comment, "you done ok kid". I like to think I can see him getting some time on the pitch (he crosses better than Milner, imo), but somehow I can't see him making the side regularly. |
Simeon
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... I believe I've made this point before, but I will make it again. I never was a 'happy clapper'. The term 'happy clapper' has connotations of unthinking rationality, and I'm as rational as they come - probably why I cop abuse from more passionate, but less objective, fans. Was I happy with the progress we made in the first few months of the season? I certainly was. The fact is, we were in a position to make a huge step up as a football club last season, when we fought our way to, what history tells us, was a hitherto unassailable position. Was there room for improvement when we were in third place, having reached a points total that had previously guaranteed a top three finish? Of course there was. But that was simply reason for more optimism. Did I question the signing of Heskey in January? Absolutely I did, but I reasoned that O'Neill knew him better than any other manager, and, at the time, I had no reason not to trust that O'Neill would use him in the appropriate manner - which I believed would be strictly as back up for Carew. Did I wonder whether we'd perhaps failed to strengthen sufficiently in January to challenge on all fronts? I did, but again, I trusted that O'Neill knew the condition of the players well enough to make an informed decision that we had enough, at least to secure the all-important top 4 spot (which was surely locked on in any case). My position was that, although some of O'Neill's decisions seemed a little strange, we were getting results, and not through some mythical luck, but through sheer team-spirit, and some quality play. We deserved to be where we were, and there seemed no way that we wouldn't finish at least fourth. Who could have predicted that the team-spirit we'd had which had thrusted us into contention at the top of the table would vanish? Certainly not I. But that's what happened. Moscow was the turning point. O'Neill lost something of the players trust in him. Maybe not alot, but enough to trigger our catastrophic collapse. This was a major misjudgement on O'Neill's part - with more profound consequences than the signing of Heskey. It has also been reported that many of the players were upset at O'Neill's decision to deny them a crack at some silverware. No matter how professional players are, if they have a grievance with a manager's decision then they won't be willing to run that extra yard for him. It was the compromising of the team spirit, even if by only a small amount, that caused all the problems. So the problems came as a result of very poor judgement on O'Neill's part, and these problems were compounded by all the other mistakes that O'Neill had made, but which had been papered over by the team spirit. But these were problems that could have been overcome. |
Simeon
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... However, when O'Neill was really tested (and he hadn't been previously) he was found wanting. He failed to reinstill belief in a team that was well capable of transcending a couple of bad results and resuming a march into the Champion's League. We stumbled from one bad result to another, and although our performances weren't that bad at the beginning of the 'end' (all that seemed to be missing was that conviction which had previously been there, and seem us through in tight situations), they soon became bad. The defining moment of O'Neill's reign, I believe, has already been and gone. It was the game at Old Trafford. That proved beyond all doubt that O'Neill isn't a believer, and that he's willing to settle for second best. The team Man Ure put out that day was, frankly, rubbish. When I saw their team sheet, I fully expected us to win. We needed a result after a poor run, and they were there for the taking. You only had to compare each team, man for man, to see that we were vastly superior. And for much of the game, that was how it looked. Aside from a Milner cock-up that gifted them a goal start, we controlled the game. That we came back from such a self-inflicted wound was testament to the players. But then O'Neill changed things round and tried to hang on to a game we'd previously been in control of, thereby surrendering the initiative, and we all know what happened next. If it wasn't bad enough that O'Neill's actions precipitated our collapse in that game (which was a perfect microsm of our season by the way), he then had the front to come out after the game and say we'd done magnificently to lose narrowly to a third-rate Man Ure team. At this point it was obvious to me that O'Neill wasn't up to the task of mixing it with the big boys. Yes, I believed that we were on the right track. And, logically, I gave credit to O'Neill for that. But just because I began to see what was really going on - and seeing the whole picture has, admittedly, only been possible in hindsight - doesn't mean that my criticism is irrational as some would suggest my optimism was. As a humble fan, I can only make a judgement on the available information. This is what I did, what I do, and what I will always do. To finish on a positive note (although the O'Neill faithful won't see it as such), I think the players deserve enormous credit for the work they did last season. Ultimately, they were undermined by their manager, but that doesn't mean that they didn't show real character and talent. My final word is on Gabriel Agbonlahor. For my money, he was our best player in the first half of the season, and our most important. He was brilliant in the lone strikers role - a role he's not naturally suited to - and without him, we'd have been left with Harewood or Delfouneso on their own up top (Carew beng out injured - who knew? - and O'Neill having failed to bring in the striker last summer that the squad was crying out for). That his form fell off so dramatically in the final third of the season was as a result of being run into the ground out of a necessity presided over by O'Neill. It makes me sick that there are some posters on here who will put their complete faith in O'Neill with one breath, and then in the next ridicule a born and raised Villa fan who gave his all for the team and had half of a brilliant season. I hope that clears a few things up - for anyone who bothered to read! |
limerick villan
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... isnt that what we want though albright looks to be good mon will blood him in properly.maybe its me but i actually think MON knows wat hes doing |
limerick villan
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... simeon ur a tosspot mate our problems started wen laursen got injured.i suppose that was mon`s fault too.this is a villa site mate |
always up the holt
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... This is only my second time bloging on this site, but i am sorry to announce that we are apparnetly competing with sunderland 4 players is this top 4 stuff i think f**king not!!!!! MON is in spain sign some bloody players from there . Is it just me or shall we just except that the dream is dead. yours sad YOUTH!!!! |
gregdavillain
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... simeon nice essay well done, i agreed with a lot of what u say, esp. that we really should have broke the bank to get in reinforcements last january as we we're in a great position then, and it'l be hard to get there again with a good points lead over our rivals. I disagree that moscow was the catalyst of our downfall as we had just started to stutter b4 (losing 3-1 at goodison) that and aslo ive a major grievance with your next part O'Neill's decision to deny them a crack at some silverware. No matter how professional players are, if they have a grievance with a manager's decision then they won't be willing to run that extra yard for him. so you really think if mon denied them a crack at the uefa, if they were so despondent and pissed at the manager they would shoot themselves in the foot by not qualifing for the champs league??? i dont buy it. if they had the gas in the engine they would have ran an extra yard for themselves. Our squad fell short. O neill knew it would happen. So he choose the lesser of 2 evils and diminished our chances of progressing the uefa cup when sending a depleted team to moscow, with conditions there of -10 degrees facing an uphill task anyway, after conceding the away goal at home with a full strength team. We did try to sign zaki and downing last jan supposedly so look a bit further than blaming the man you had faith in, and just because you were left down doesnt mean we need radical change. |
gregdavillain
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...nd seeing the whole picture has, admittedly, only been possible in hindsight so only you a humble fan is allowed the benefit of hinsight?? I dont know how such an articulate person with a good command of the english language is such a f**king imbecile. i suppose its oneills fault for ww2, drought in africa and the ozone lair.... agbonlahor had a poor 2nd half of the season bcause of oneill... he conceded the utd game because he gave up the initiative... do u not realise we were playing the english 2 time in a row champs, european champs and the world player of the year scored twice, gimme a break. u remind me of sylvia plath, well spoken good at english but a depressed f**kin maniac |
always up the holt
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... gergadvillan, the whole point off trying to progress in europe was to attract players to the club. But by sending kids out there not only slowed us down but scared off a lot of young talented players because of OUR apprent lack of desire to win a competion that was within or grasp.(HAMBURG & STUTTARG ARE NOW SIGNING BIG NAMES WHY?) uefa CUP!!!!!! |
Simeon
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... gregdavillan, I'm not suggesting the players didn't give 100%. I'm sure they did. But they didn't give 110% as they had been doing - and that extra 10% makes all the difference. You cannot deny that in football there is a bond between the manager and his players. The best managers are those who, above everything else, inspire their players to play for them. For some managers, a player will give everything he believes he has. For other managers, they will give more than they knew they had. No-one believes they can run through a proverbial brick wall, and yet players will, proverbially, do exactly that for the best managers. This isn't to say that failiure to run through brick walls is a dereliction of professional duty. A player can only give what he has, and all he has is what is naturally in his gift, and maybe what a great manager can draw out of him. To illustrate the point, you will only get the right answers if you ask the right questions. Up until Moscow, the players were running through brick walls and giving 110%. Afterwards, O'Neill wasn't able to inspire them to give that extra 10% because his authority had been tarnished. The aura had gone, because O'Neill undermined the player's belief, and the halo had slipped because he'd denied his men an opportunity they had busted a gut for since the previous July. Just put yourself in the player's position and think how you'd feel? Players are human just like us. They have emotions, and they are not strictly governed by logic. I understand that what I suggest can only be a theory, but it's the theory that best fits the facts. And, as I say, an incontrovertible fact is that O'Neill happily surrendered to Man Ure back in March. Of course he wanted to win, but what marks you out as great is not how badly you want to win, but rather how much you hate losing, and on that day, O'Neill's lack of disappointment told you all you needed to know. Your point about the FA Cup game should also be addressed. In that game we were without our best player, who you will remember was suspended. This weakened the team significantly. Yes, we eventually went out with a whimper, but Everton are a tough team, it was a one-off cup game, and they had home advantage. Losing was certainly no disgrace, as disappointing as it was. |
Simeon
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... Oh, and as for us having no chance against them in the second leg, the fact that, with a reserve team we gave them a really good game and only conceded the second very late on indicates that a full stregth team would have really fancied their chances of winning on the night. After all, let's not forget that our away form is vastly superior to our home form. |
limerick villan
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... didnt huntelar tell stutgart nah cant be bothered want a premiership team!!! |
gregdavillain
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...0 thats a load of bollocks you obviously dont know what you are talking about. those clubs are massive in germany. hamburh had van der vaart and sold de jong and kompany to city last year, they've a great squad and stuttgart although i admit i dont know too much about but i bet they say the same about us who are they, they are all big clubs with bigger grounds and following than us. so to say they are walkovers is immatture and uninformed, just go back and play football manager for yourself. as for attracting players because of the uefa cup?? they got 2 rounds further than us, and if thats the case why did adebayor and toure give up champs football so did tevez and lescott eant sto jump ship so did barry, these player dont give a toss for europa cup, most might for champs league but money talks |
Simeon
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... Hindsight is a gift to us all. I certainly don't have a monopoly on it. I've just happened to make use of it. Of course it's O'Neill's fault that Gabby had a poor second half to the season. The poor lad had sacrificed his body on the altar of O'Neill's inadequacies in the transfer market! Back in November, O'Neill himself expressed his concern that Gabby might suffer from burnout when England had the temerity to call him up for U21 duty! That we were short on strikers throughout the season (the signing of Heskey hardly helped the situation) was apparent even without the benefit of hindsight. We played 4-5-1 for how long because we only had one fit striker?! And your remark about the quality of Man Ure is disingenuous. The fact is that the team they put out against us was anemic, and demonstrably so up until O'Neill surrendered! I saw the game. I saw exactly what happened. I didn't need hindsight to recognise what O'Neill did. And lastly, than you for reminding me why I had decided not to reply to your comments. Flawed thinking is something I will accept and battle with. Foul-mouthed abuse however merely confirms that rational debate is impossible. |
steven
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... greg da villan im an everton fan and im pissed off about the lescott situation.well said mate i totally agre with you.some players if not most of them dont give a f**k about loyalty.always up the holt your talking garbage im afraid mate. |
gregdavillain
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... look simeon ive often given u a hard time in the past and id love to now, i could critic your last post and in every paragraph u completely contradicd yourself because you are blinded by such anger/dissapointment in yourself for believing in a team last year that didnt deliver your percieved outcome that you cannot contribute a logical interpreation of last years events and you are manifesting this towards oneill in a delussional way. if players are human like us cant you see oneill is too but as i said im not going to nit pick through all your contradictions as im just going to agree to disagree. i wont deny mistake were made but i think most people in that position would have went the same road and i dont believe players lost faith in the manager, you say you want to follow facts, well show me one player who wants to leave or one player to critize last year, if they were so let down by their manager show me transfer requests and unhappy players, barry doesnt count he wanted out since last summer |
gregdavillain
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...Hindsight is a gift to us all. I certainly don't have a monopoly on it. I've just happened to make use of it. well i was trying to be nice but you know what know what i now wont deny i dislike you and the reason is you comes across as a spoilt, arrogant condesending little p***k who was born with a silver spoon stuck up his arse, you never to me seemd like a football fan with your metaphors and analogies, you have know balls and were probably bullied all your life and by decent bullies who knew you deserved it. so hows that for flawd think you ball less driving anemic sac of shit |
oldnick
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... simoen u took the words out of my mouth. i unfortantly could not agree with u more. |
gregdavillain
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... ah no limerick villain piss all, hows da form anyway, some people love coming on here pretending to folloe villa, it really gets my back up, these irritating fools |
limerick villan
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... not bad dude watched the match tonite,had a few beers and was happy with the result obviously,started thinking to myself no signings the young ones did good maybe a bit optimistic but not bad add a few more and cud be a gud season ahead u know,then these prats come on and well honestly are they villa fans or just outcasts that live by themselves and just need to moan about something, anyways if i lived life like that well id probably have my plot picked by now.im gud and u..lol |
gregdavillain
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... grand now bud the same, got a slab of ureich cheap ass beer on sale down da offy and watched most of the game, we badly need 5/6 senior players but, ya da young lads did well, delfouneso is the best of the bunch and its a pity we didnt get to him, but da lads play well together, i think they might need a lot of tweaking for da premier league though, i didnt see anything there that could show they are ready for the prem other than 1 or 2 as late subs in games we miight be winning (lichaj, albrighton).... hahhaa yeah ud be up in mount st. lawrences already if you were like that hahaha |
always up the holt
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... i agree with you that all the players that you have named want champs lge fot!! as for f**king german football they surely a 4th rate league ENGLAND 1, SPAIN 2, ITALAIN 3, NAZI'S 4, never consider a league that boo's a black player that represents his country a strong hold of football, that also is very close to the mark for spain aswell. I ,love Martin and quite frankly if he can turn us into a new age bloody leicester city and win a few cups here and there cool. Never ever un till you die say that german football is bigger and better than ours and grounds and attendences are better that is just shit. Even martin Jol has left them need i any anymore trigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
limerick villan
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... lmao.. i gotta cut some hair tomorrow so i is off to dream of us winning the champions league. laters greg and the rest of the lads. in MON we trust! UTV |
hazza
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... What has happened to Harry Forrester surely the kid has bags of it all!!!!!!!!!!!! He looked like a mini Kevin Phillips????????? |
gregdavillain
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... whats racism got to do with the standard of football you ape??? Evn if the german league is behind the prem, we are still not as good as hamburg not yet anyway, and they do have way bigger following than us so take off the blinkers dude, stuttgart do too, da prem has only being the best league the last 3 years tops, and i think the swing has gone back to spain again this year. the byism on this site is unbelievable, im sorry to spout it, but the amount of blinkered uninformed tripe is rife. Just because you dont know about something doesnt neccassarily mean your better, you watch way too much sky tv mate, go out and learn about the other teams and clubs outside of this small little island and your eyes will be opened. Oneill is the best manager we can have at the moment for where we are and what we are trying to sustain, i aslo believe he will progress us, but thats just my opinion not a fact, but in regards to the other clubs out there, im sorry we have a long way to go and the uefa cup will attract players but not top player, but some good ambitious untried players who are looking to try to progress to a bigger level. ie the downings will go to us over fulham, but the hlebs will go to stuttgart over us |
always up the holt
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... i think my friend that you that calling me an ape is all i need to say you f**king dick, all i want is 4 people to care about the club, which is what you obvisily do, so just put all your anger and passion into better things like washing cars or picking up litter you twat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
gregdavillain
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... hahaha a car washer and litter picker upper see how easy it is for me to get you down to my level u big chimpanze, most of here are passionate fans, and yeah im one, but your out of order mate, u made a fool of yourself with your dimwitted comments and fair enough i responded and tried to show you the error of your ways and this is the thanks i get?? so do you wash cars and pick up litter? dont hide behind the fact you pretend to be a gentleman because your use of profanity is just as good as mine, the truth here is you have come to the end of your argument and connot retort back in any meaninful fashion that will gce you any satisfaction so you reduce yourself to my level and bail out, genius. my 8 year old brother has tactic than that. tell the boys at the car wash or your sanitary engineer friend i said hello |
Jeremiah says
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... I think one thing that people have to keep in mind regarding the German league is that teams have a better shot of making the Champions League in Germany. There aren't four dominant clubs there. Only Werder and Bayern are consistently CL teams, and Bremen didn't even make it to the Champions League this year. Stuttgart won three years ago and Hertha won this year. It makes sense why players who are hungry from Champions League would go to a team like Stuttgart or Hamburg - they could be in the Champions League semifinals next year. Even with substantial improvement, Villa probably won't Also, Germany consistently has the highest attendance and most profitable teams in Europe. And let's be honest, a team like Stuttgart, Hertha, Bremen or Hamburg is as good as Villa or Everton - possibly better. We might have a better top four, but the strength of the Top 10 teams is very comparable. |
straightener chi
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... In the world of high-heeled shoes Christian Louboutin is the French people can not be ignored. |
gregdavillain
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... jeramiah, finally a bit of sense followd by a logic rather than rash ott opinion, well done my son |
colm tarpey
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... Lads, Wtched the first half last night from here in India, and was distraught at the perfiormance , so turned it off at half time (1am here!) Cuellar could'nt pass out from the back, Davies looked Shakey....Guzan looked good, so did that Albrighton kid, although he looked a little lightweight... is there anywhere online to view the match again in replay? seeing as the second half was reportedly much better! Ta |
Villa man
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... Must say the stadiums in Germany are much much better than over here guys! In fact awesome! Each and every one is intimidating! Especially the alliance Areana where bayern play! |
Rich
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... Pancho Villa, Hugo Sanchez, Roberto Duran, Sven Goran Erikson; you guys took one hell of a beating!! |
Richard Bunn
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... 500 comments, unbelievable! Let's hope there's something positive to talk about today. I love the Villa!!!! |
Darragh McGeown
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...MON: "I thought Ashley was just fantastic for us - particularly when you consider he has only just started training with us again. He is an immense footballer and tonight he showed how important he is for us." Is he trying to blow smoke up Ashley's ass to keep him at villa I thought there were better performances from Albrighton and Guzan but hey, very happy with last nights win and performance. |
Andi
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... We got semi finals tomorrow, then i think you will see the flood gates open and some signings start filtering through. My bets are on Jenas, Distin, Bent or Keane, Delph and 2 other squad players |
Faccundo
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... steveAV When were you at Adelaide Utd? I know most of the crew Opinion on Spiranovic as CB for the Villa? MON wake up and sign him! The new Hangeland |
Darragh McGeown
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... Chiefy : We got semi finals tomorrow, then i think you will see the flood gates open and some signings start filtering through. My bets are on Jenas, Distin, Bent or Keane, Delph and 2 other squad players I don't like the idea of taking 3 rejects from SPURS but hopefully they will turn out to be quality signings. Keane would add some good creativity but not sure about Jenas and Bent. |
Andi
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... Rob H why ? would you only take one of them ? i think we have more money than everybody thinks and it is a clever move not telling everyone how much you can spend. I think after so many false dawns the last few seasons have showed us we are on the right track and i dont think we are going to through it all away by not signing any players when we are so short on numbers, I expect some of the kids to make the step up though |
Deano avfc
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... You would prefer Distin to Upson??? Upson would be a quality signing for us. UTV |
Darragh McGeown
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... Sorry should have said "...SPURS but hopefully they would turn out to be quality signings...." |
Andi
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... No i would not prefer distin to upson i just think them names i mentioned are closer than any others, |
Darragh McGeown
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... I know this depends on not having any serious damage to the shoulder but how long does it normally take recover from a dislocated shoulder? |
Deano avfc
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