Written by Andy Thursday, 01 July 2010 19:37
Last season James Milner was our star man, but I really think it is time to cash the annual Man City summer cheque. A move that I believe would benefit Villa a lot more than James. Before I say why I should make it clear that the price has to be either £30million or £20million plus a player; Stephen Ireland or Craig Bellamy will do fine.
So why do I feel this is right for Aston Villa? Firstly, I actually don’t believe James Milner offers us enough in central midfield as he hasn’t got the range of passing for that role. He is in my opinion most effective on the right wing as he showed for England.
Yet we have two class wingers in Ashley Young and Stuart Downing as well as the very promising Marc Albrighton.
Secondly, I suspect that this year Milner will suffer from playing almost two years none stop football. He and Heskey were the only two players from Villa involved in the World Cup so the other players should all be fresh.
Thirdly, I think his head has been turned and already he is thinking of moving to a club that he believes is currently bigger than Villa. Do you want a play that can have his head turned so easily>
My final reason is simply that Villa need the money. I don’t think the team needs major surgery and would actually love to see the bench next season not full of journeymen, but with seven of our very promising youngsters. We probably just need to buy a centre midfield player who can really pass and dictate games (a modern day ‘Sid’) and another quality forward.
The midfield player that I think fits the bill and would be available if you offered enough is Scott Parker. Parker with either Ireland or Petrov (or a fit again Delph) alongside him and I think we would have a better midfield than last season.
Then up front, if Bellamy wasn’t part of deal, I would be looking at Doyle from Wolves who I thought was excellent against us last year.
With the sales of Davies, Sidwell, Reo Coker, Osbourne, Salifou, Harewood, Shorey and possibly Carew, we should raise well over £15million and after expenses it is more than possible we could be looking at a profit of over £20million this summer and I think that is something the Villa are badly in need of.
It is time the Villa finally made use of their investment in youth and gave the youngsters the chance to show if they really are the future.
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DanWilson82
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... Agreed, sell him. Can't be bothered with players that don't want to commit. Good luck to him at getting more than 5 starts next season. We can always buy him back for 5 million in 2 years time after he becomes a bench warmer like Ireland, infact, I think we should take Ireland as part of the exchange, turn him into a 30 million rated player then swap them back for the same amount again when Milner becomes dead wood amoungst the big names at City. |
astonmichaeldevilla
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... I have to say that I'm very disappointed in Jimmy. It made me feel 10ft tall watching him playing @ the World Cup. He was by far Englands best player and yet he only played 2 games. I'm Irish btw but i was proud to see a villa player doing well. Heskey was woeful and I can't for the life of me understand why CAPELLO didn't give GABBY his place in the squad. GABBY would've done some real damage to the defenses on show. WEBCAM would've been a better choice than Lennon or Wright-Phillips. I mean what did they do @ the World Cup, NOTHING!! I got off line about MILNER but that says i'm used to the fact he's leaving. He had his hd turned and there's nothing LERNER or O'NEILL coulda said or done to get him to stay. I thought he was a decent lad but i suppose these are the players of todays generation. NO f**kIN' LOYALTIES!!! |
cyprusvilla
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... 50 million to spend tagoe zamora agia bousouffa parker ireland defour these will a chance in the league and europa and maybe even champion league next year |
Genital Grinder
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... Quite the businessman DanWilson82!  Yeah, I'd say cash in on him, but if we're getting a player in exchange it would have to be Stephen Ireland, Bellamy is almost finished. Don't know about our bench being full of youngsters though, as much as I'd like it, and as much as it should be the way with the young quality we have, it's just not MONs thing is it? Remember he asked to Heskey to play CB before Clark vs Fulham? And he's also crap at putting subs on too to change anything. Sidwell, shortly followed by Heskey. Everytime. Give the young lads a chance MON! |
Genital Grinder
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... oooh look wot I just found.... http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/07/01/milner-for-28m-done-deal-mysteryman/? could be announced soon then |
Hurrrrr
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... Scott Parker. Seriously. Not even joking. SCOTT PARKER to replace Milner? He is a 30 year old 10m pound totally average midfielder with his body only capable of declining. God I hate the lack of ambition Villa fans show and this is coming from someone who believes they are qualified to tell us his opinions. He failed at Chelsea and was nowhere near the England squad (even though he made the thirty). So you want to us to be a selling club? Fine. Here's to another 10 years of underachievement and dwindling ambitions. |
Damian
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... Hurrrrr unfortunately this isn't four years ago when lerner took over and with a sell to buy policy you have to lower expectations- however, if you can describe scott parker as a totally average midfielder then so is james milner scott parker had a very good season last year - as good as milner if not better |
Damian
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... b30 villain and as i've written quite a few times over the past few weeks you cant pay for parker - but you can give him a nice weekly wage on a two year contract if you can get him for free - but that wont happen- none of it will but you can not deny he had a great season last time out- better than milner too |
b30 villain
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... dont know about better than jimmy i dont really watch west ham but i agree with what you say he aint worth 10 million of anybodys money |
fastbackace
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... id be happy with with 24 mil and ireland. add in doyle, or keane for a forward option, and stuart holden from bolton, or micheal Bradley for midfield option, both of which would be cheap, 3-5 mil tops... and i think we would be looking very good. |
blake0121
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... Agreed I think Milner offers more to us on the right wing than he does in the centre The Milner situation is dragging and it is not doing the club any favours even though were in a win win situation but knowing MON he will turn it into a losing one  (hopefully he proves me wrong) either Milner signs a new contract and we can show other teams that we can hold on to are star players and that we can still give a real challenge for the top 4 or we can sell Milner for £25m-£30m and strengthen the squad more win win either way but can MON use the £30m wisely I don't know (I hope so) Hurrrrr & b30 villain I think Parker would be an improvement on Petrov tbh if it wasn't for Parker West Spam would of been relegated last season but instead there facing us 1st fixture of the premier league COME ON VILLA |
grotty
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... Good Post. Agree we should sell him for £28+ , good player but not great. Also get the impression its done deal, dont know why, just get that feeling. Really dont think we should sell curtis or reo. Dunne and Collins get injured. We have clark and carlos, what happens then?? Reo i have always liked for us. not in a 2, but in a 3 like at liverpool. Would like , reo, petrov and ireland as a middle 3! Something has to give at man city, have you seen the list of midfielders they have!! |
anotherjames
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... Is it just me, or are the posts on this site becoming increasingly ridiculous? First, a post telling us why Heskey is key to Aston Villa, now one telling us we should sell Milner because he's not good enough in central midfield, when our youngsters would apparently do a better job (eventually). Whatever. |
Hurrrrr
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... I can. Milner kept our top 4 ambitions going virtually on his own at points. His drive and influence kept us going when most had given up. You seem to base all of your opinions on Milner on technical ability. His will to win and inspiration more than make up for a slight loss in technical quality. Parker almost got relegated, and everyone knows it's easy to impress in a bad season (Steven Davis, Peter Whittingham etc). You also underestimate that Villa selling to Man City is more than just 'cashing in', by signing our best player year on year they are denying us a vital few points each year. This is cynical market tactics by Man City to ruin their nearest rivals (which we are, despite the wage gap). Every time we have to go out and develop another rough diamond is another year wasted. In a few years, soon to be ex-Villa players like Milner, Young, Aggy, Delph, Delfuoneso, Albrighton and even Curtis D could be winning things at the top level, we have the possibility of a golden generation, don't think Man Utd sold theirs to Leeds and Liverpool at the first sign of cash. WE SHOULD TAKE THE RISK. |
Damian
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... Hurrrrr some didn't think we had any top four ambitions last season and even with milner we ended up exactly where we did the season before and the season before that and without him that is where we will end up next season as for taking risks - how many more seasons are we going to ask for that - for as long as i can remember that has been the biggest gripe |
frosty
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... Scott Parker... should keep Sidwell on his toes, I'm sure Chelsea fans would agree. Christ he scored a 20 yarder near the end of the season and put in several slightly above average displays but again because he's English we all praise him, there's more potential in my dads cock and he's 70. |
DanWilson82
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...there's more potential in my dads cock and he's 70. Just spat a mouthful of Diet coke with a hint of lime all over my monitor. |
abz1888
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... I'm sorry but I have to step in here.. Damien, you say that Parker was better than Milner last season..? Have you gone loopy?! Parker was an average player in a team that was totally s**t last year! Next you'll be saying that we should sign Upson, Barry Ferguson and Roger Johnson! If we receive a good offer for Milner, then I'd take it. Ireland is an excellent player and we could do with sprucing up the squad a bit. Potentially there might be quite a few changes to the squad this summer but you never know what O'Neill will do next! |
villa south1
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... just move downing in the center just as he was a replacement for barry when he was brought in now he is milners.. |
Hurrrrr
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... That's exactly my point though Damien. We lost Barry, we took a backwards step. Milner grew into a £30m player by the end of the season, we narrowly (despite what you say about the ambition) missed out on 4th in the last 3 games. So what now, we get 30m for Milner, drop someone else in at the deep end and see if he survives (Delph looks a perfect replacement for Milner, the injury is a massive blow) and spend another season behind City and Spurs. Whatever you say about those two clubs they are not a million miles from ours, and we are shooting ourselves in the foot giving them our players, regardless of the money we have made from their sale. One 10-15m player who may or may not step up and some financial security in no way makes up for 'the future of English football'. Finally, having watched us sell our two best players to City, both good friends with Ash and Gabby, what exactly is the reason that they would stay at our club? Ash has had to watch his career dip and miss out on a World Cup, if he'd have pushed for a move when Young Player of the Season he might have been there. Whether true or not he will surely start to think that. |
Simeon
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... The price you suggest seems about right (inflated, naturally, but that's the City-effect). I also agree with you that Milner is better as a wide midfielder rather than a central midfielder for exactly the same reason. And how refreshing it would be to have a squad shorn of its journeymen and bolstered with young Villa talent. But after this there is some dissent. Downing a quality winger? Oh dear. Scott Parker a modern-day Sid? Perhaps you don't realise quite how insulting this is to the Great Gordon. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. And a quality forward in the shape of Kevin Doyle? Because he had an 'excellent' game against us? Apparently you've been taking lessons from the master, Martin O'Neill himself, who decided to buy Steve Sidwell (one of the journeymen I assume you're referring to) for exactly the same reason. Bellamy is a far better shout (although I don't think we should be looking at players of his vintage unless the price is extremely favourable, in this case no more than £4m). Finally, you're being incredibly optimistic in thinking we'll recoup that much money from offloading our 'journeymen'. Halve your figure and you'll be much closer to reality. But the sentiment that we invest in the youth we already have at the club is an excellent one, and Villa making a profit from transfer dealings is the only we are going to progress as a club without the backing of a multi-billionaire. With these broad points I agree entirely. |
artball
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... funny awhile back Milner was being spoke of as an old style footballer - no agent, loyal, etc... times change.... selling him for a value of 28m is a good idea.. include Ireland in the deal and we'd still have 20-22 to spend? not bad.... |
AussieVillan
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... Parker is no better then sidwell or reo coker ! We could sell milner for 20 plus Ireland ,get rid if coker davies. Carew and couple of other dead bench warmers and we will have Ireland and 30 mil to spend ! Why don't oneill go for van der vart for 15 |
Genital Grinder
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... frosty quality. Simeon Kevin Doyle. I would take him faster than any striker we've been linked with so far, and believe me, this is not speaking as an Irishman. I've been ranting about him since just about the time he joined Reading. He never fails to impress me, whether it's our defence, a Top 4 defence, or any pick of an international defence that the ROI have faced recently. With the amount of chances we create, he could be a 20 goal a season striker, and that would be just part of his game. |
peppernaul
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... You've done well to get the best out of Milner, while we (City) have done our best to spoil Ireland. On their day I would be happy to take Ireland up against Milner any time, so for you to talk of getting Ireland + £20mil is unbelievably depressing for an old skool city fan. But hey-ho - it's not my money any more so what do I know? Good luck to you... |
fastbackace
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... here here hurrr... how are we to win, or even stay in top flight if we keep selling our best players? we keep this up, and we'll be the best selling club in the world! maybe ASTON VILLA could grow some TESTICLES and keep our good players... |
Simeon
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... Genital Grinder I've got nothing against Kevin Doyle. I will happily accept that he's a decent player, and I would agree with you that he'd be a better bet than Robbie Keane, the forward we've been linked with most strongly. But I don't believe that he's top-six quality, and I don't think he's as good as what we already have. I'm a big fan of Agbonlahor, and I believe he would already be a 20-goal-a-season striker if he was given periodic rests in order to maintain his sharpness. His form in the first half of each of the last three seasons has certainly been that of a 20-goal-a-season striker. And in Delfouneso I think we have a player with the kind of potential we haven't seen at Villa since Dwight Yorke. Something will have gone very badly wrong if he isn't featuring prominently for England by the next World Cup at the latest. Signing Doyle, Keane or any other smaller striker would either mean that Gabby was to be sold, or, more likely, that Delfouneso was to be further side-lined. I can see the sense in us signing a big striker to provide competition and relief for Carew, but signing a smaller striker would be bad news because our manager, like almost every manager, likes to play with a big striker and a little striker. I realise that we haven't scored enough goals this season, and that the solution to this problem would seem to be signing a new striker. But in the 2007/8 season we scored something like 75 league goals, and our strikers were Gabby and Carew. I don't think it's the strikers that are the problem, and I don't believe we will be signing a new striker unless we sell one. Given that Heskey is nominally a striker, we have four first-team strikers, and this would be plenty even if we used a squad-rotation system. |
Simeon
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... peppernaul How much of Ireland's current troubles are his own responsibility? And had Hughes remained as manager, would Ireland have seen more football this season? He's clearly got alot of talent, and I'd agree that he certainly has more natural ability than Milner, but does he have the character and the temperament to cut it at the highest level? |
Genital Grinder
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... Simeon I have to say I do think Kevin Doyle is Top 6 quality, but in no way would I want to replace him with Gabby or stop Delfouneso from breaking into the 1st team, Doyle for me would be a replacement for Heskey in our strikeforce, albeit a huge improvement on Heskey, and have Carew as the "big one" when needed. The thing that sets Doyle apart from our strikers, and from whoever we've been linked with so far, apart from his work-rate which is second to none, is his intelligence, I could be wrong, but I really think he'd flourish in our current line-up. But come next season, I hope Gabby and Delfonz are leading the way up front. |
TheDiamond
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... I'm not convinced Milner is leaving and I think the saga will indeed continue for quite some time. I don't think he's 100% sure himself what he really wants. Selling him is incredibly stupid unless we're guaranteed a quality play-maker and striker coming in. Our attack is toothless enough as it is. It's laughable how many people here seem to have a perfect solution ie. "sell A,B,C,D and E for F million then bring in X,Y,Z etc. and we're sorted" This isn't Championship Manager. Oh by the way. I think we should do this.  Out: Heskey L Young Beye Sidwell Salifou In Winston Reid KP Boateng Doyle. Boussoufa Also I'm annoyed West Brom picked up Stephen Reid on a free. He's too good for them even if he is injury prone. |
TheDiamond
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... Stephen Ireland is an accident waiting to happen. God help the club he moves to. You heard it here first. |
Simeon
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... Genital Grinder It would certainly be interesting if Doyle was signed as replacement for Heskey - and I agree that it would be a big improvement. But it would involve changing the way we played quite dramatically if we were to play without a big striker on a regular basis. At the moment our gameplan is to pepper the opposition penalty area with crosses. But without a big striker, a tactic that is already limited in its effectiveness would almost be an exercise in futility. I believe that we do need to change the way we play and expand our repertoire of attacking plays, and Doyle is the type of player who could help with that. But the change needs to come from the top first, and this is where the issue is. Our manager has his own strong ideas about how football should we played, and central to this is a big striker, quick wingers and willing workers. This inevitably leads to the kind of football we play, and I don't think the style of football is going to change because our manager believes in what he's doing. The best that can be hoped for is that we get better at what we do, and who knows, maybe that might happen. But I don't think that signing Doyle fits with this philopsophy, unless he's going to partner Carew or Heskey. I think that our manager's plan is to replace Heskey or Carew (with the latter being more likely in my estimation) with another big striker - with Carlton Cole and Bobby Zamora being the most likely candidates. I think that he recognises that Delfouneso is a good player (though I don't think he recognises just how good, otherwise he would be in the team on a regular basis by now), and as such I can't see that he'll be in the market for a similar kind of striker (i.e. a striker who partners a big man) - especially given that we don't have much money and are looking to sell players to fund new signings. |
Simeon
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... The Diamond I notice that you suggest selling two right backs but not bringing in a replacement. This would leave us with only Cuellar. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to keep Luke Young, stick him in the team, and move Cuellar to centre-back? We might be able to get away with not signing another right back to provide cover if we kept Young, but keeping just Cuellar would leave us very light in an important position wouldn't it? |
RobL
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... Dorrans from west brom anyone? Would cost us 6 and for mine he was the stand out of the championship last season, easily good enough to make an impact in the guts for us I think. |
DAJ
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... I dont think anyone is coming in from Man City. Thing is, if we are not interested in the likes of Richards, Ireland, Bellamey ect, then why not? Why the straight cash? I think this deal has been done before the World cup. and it was agreed to conclude it after. I also think that taking straight cash is an indication that we have been working behind the scenes on our own targets, and that maybe one or two have been lined up already. Well this is what i would hope has happened!! I also think that the players we bring in will need a summers pre-season, since i have a feeling that the squad and the way we play will change drasticly. Hence im predicting at least two new faces in within the next fortnight. |
Damian
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... Hurrrrr we didn't really take a backward step when losing barry though did we. with him and milner in the side we finished 6th. with just milner, we also finished 6th i've also heard people say on the television, radio and pub, that barry has had a poor to average season at manchester city when/if milner leaves - it really isn't going to impact our season that much - with him or without him, we will finish in the same place because of the style of football we play |
Chiefy
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... Milner will not be going anywhere Ozil has come out and said he fancies coming to the Premier league with one of the top 2. Man Utd cant afford him and Chelski will get outbid by Citeh, he will get drawn into the money Citeh will no doubt throw at him leaving Milner exactly where he is. If Milner does move however it will start the midfield merry go round. Milner -- Citeh Barry -- Liverscum Macherano -- Inter Parker -- Villa Dorrans -- West Ham Ohara -- West Brom  |
Barry'sboots
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... Milner + other sales + sponsorship deal = £65m Sign: Hart - £10m; RB - £8m; Clyne - £2m; Young LB - £2m; NZogbia - £10m; Dorrans - £8m; Prince Boateng - £5m; Doyle - £10m; Tuncay/Keane - £6m. Small profit!! And we are a much stronger squad. |
jk92293
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... dont agree with the post at all.....if milner goes and we rely on the youth.....hello 12th place!! |
Damian
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... jk92293 i'm just playing man in the middle here, but so many said that when barry left - more in fact. i think the general feeling with milner is as long as we get enough money .. while with barry there was a real fear we would struggle - when in fact it is the player that has struggled also - playing the man in the middle again - what is the difference between 12th and 6th apart from 6 places and a few extra quid at the end of the season when your manager doesn't care about europa ldv league? |
fastbackace
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... damian, u continue to say there is no difference if we sell him because we will continue to get 6th. if we keep him though, and strengthen... maybe top 5... my point is... if we want to achieve better than sixth then we must keep hold of our best... am i wrong? |
jimboAVFC
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... am i missing something, when did many city sign jimmy milner!!!???? everyone is talking like he has already signed. Man city haven't even put in an improved offer so lets just hold back on the 'no loyalty' comments for a second. i'd love milner to stay because he is a good footballer but he is by no means irreplacable. people saying we need to hold on to our best players or we will move backwards, these are the same people who were saying the same thing when barry was on his way out and were now probably a better team now without barry. if he says, great. if not we get a sh#t load of cash or cash plus ireland (who, if can play like he did two seasons ago) is just as good, if not better, than milner. WIN,WIN. |
harleygirl
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... Am I the only one who liked the look of Hondo (?) at the world cup? I thought he looked like a class player; goal scoring, fast, hard working and inventive. Maybe he's the Japanese player that O'Neill should hav a punt at, he could be within our budget if Milner goes. |
Chiefy
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... Go on now go walk out the door just turn around now your not welcome anymore werent you the one who used to get mugged of on the wing, werent MON the one who put you in the middle and international stage. one day you will be back on the bench, while you watch citeh's stars you think your big you think your grand but your not, your not worth 20million quid We wont crumble and will stay alive Just like Barry we will replace you and go on to better things so go on now go to the tune of I will survive. Simon Cowel eat your heart get me a record label |
Damian
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... fastbackace to finish fifth next season and to keep milner we would need to spend £60mn this summer that isn't going to happen with o'neill and even if we did spend all that money and keep milner - there is no guarantee either i think lerner has figured all this out too but my point is - the football we get from o'neill is not going to get better than 6th |
Chiefy
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...to finish fifth next season and to keep milner we would need to spend £60mn Honestly ? How many player would you want for that spend? you might as well spend 80million and go for broke for chumps league. But that is tranfer fees alone not included wages which would go up obviously as we need class players. |
Chiefy
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...Am I the only one who liked the look of Hondo No Honda would work for Villa on lots of levels, he would bring flair, creativity, excitement, skill and great free kicks. For Lerner he would make back what he costs in wages easily, Honda would in essence pay for himself in the PR, shirt sales and sponsorship he brings in from the far east. MON wont go for it thought because its just not what he does is it, shame though would be ideal |
TheDiamond
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... harleygirl you mean Honda? He is average at best and had a few flashes of class for his country, that's all. He's already in Europe and has shown how average he is at club level. Not worth signing unless we plan on making a fortune on shirt sales in Japan. |
Damian
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... Chiefy my point is - it isn't going to happen with the football from o'neill - it will only happen with money and like i said, there are no guarantees with that and i fancy lerner has figured it all out |
Chiefy
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... Damo - I agree with you on that, MON will bring us success but in small bits over a period of time. Without a serious wake up to how we play or serious investment things are not going to change. But MON could change couldn't he ?!?!?!??!?!? who I am kidding |
gwatkins
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... In regards to Honda I think we over-estimate the effect signing a far eastern player would have in terms of shirt sales over there. I can assure you that the far East supporters are only interested in UTD, Liverpool and Chelsea.....The clowns are owned by a far eastern business man and they have had no impact what so ever on the market over there. As for Milner, £30 million is great business. I would rather take a player as part of it, and think Irland would be perferct. Milner is an industrious centre midfielder but not a great one!! |
VillaNick
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... Spot on, Milner doesnt give us much else other than legs. I think we will see Ireland, Parker and Rodellega with perhaps a long shot of a new keeper and right back. I think it will be more exciting than last year's transfer window for Villa |
Chiefy
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...Spot on, Milner doesnt give us much else other than legs.  how rude, true though. If it wasn't for his work rate no body would even know who he is. If Coker could learn how to pass there wouldnt be much difference |
eVilla
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... Love it! Damian I'm in shock... You DO actually admit to being wrong sometimes! Albeit indirectly. What an about turn!! 2009: Milner works hard, but he's not worth every penny. Had we paid £4mn. for Milner I'd say he was worth every penny. 2009: I'm not questioning the manager or his choice of player, but I'd hope he did a little bit better this summer with the money he gets given. (now) Damian says: I should make it clear that the price has to be either £30 million. 2009: Milner can't cross 2009: I didn't say Milner was a bad player, or wasn't worth the money, I said he was not a good winger and not worth the money if you paid £12mn. for him as a winger. (now) Damian says: He is in my opinion most effective on the right wing. |
Proxopera
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...He was by far Englands best player and yet he only played 2 games. quote] !!!!!!!!!!! |
jk92293
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... Damo - we invested the money after barry left in Milner and Downing. I know if we invest it again, we will do very well this year. my point is that if we rely on our youth, we wont get any further, i think we will take a step back. they are good, but not 4th position good. that was my beef.... i suppose the difference bewteen 6th and 12th is the clubs profile, the attraction to other players and the feeling we are going places. i see it as a big difference. |
VillaNick
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...if we rely on our youth, we wont get any further, i think we will take a step back Too true, for me The Fonz and Gary Gardener are the only two that really stand out and may be worth a punt. |
Chiefy
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...Too true, for me The Fonz and Gary Gardener are the only two that really stand out and may be worth a punt. Clark, Albirghton, Bannan come on give them some credit Lichaj has just signed a new deal so he must have something He was by far Englands best player and yet he only played 2 games. quote] !!!!!!!!!!! tell me you are on about Lionel, Milner attempted loads of crosses and many failed because one got through and we scored from it does that mean he was the best player ? |
VillaNick
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... Cheify Clark, Albirghton, Bannan come on give them some credit Lichaj has just signed a new deal so he must have something Good players agreed, especially Clark. They are not going to make it into the 1st eleven though I'm afraid. Probably never. off the top of my head, the only players that have made it though our youth system into the 1st team in recent times are: Hendrie, Ridgewell, Gardener, Peter Whittingham (I suppose), Gabby and Vassell. Two of them are now at the scum (says it all). Thats 15 years worth of talent. Not exactly world beaters. |
John R Bates
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... Another potential signing gone according to the papers today, Martin Petrov signed for BOLTON from CITTEH. Gone because they didn't communicate with him enough whatever that means! One less signing for us to pontificate over. I hope martins having a nice time on the beach reading the latest crime thriller while all this goes on.  |
JimVilla
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... This site sickens me sometimes....if it's not get rid of MON it's sell our best player. And why exactly do we need to spend 60 million to finish 5th - so matter a fact? I understand Damian writing posts like this to get us all to log in and defend our players, but the hate is spreading. Whoever wrote Milner gives nothing but legs clearly doesn't watch many games. If you do go Villa Park you are probably too busy booing to see what he gives us. 12 assists and 7 goals in the Premiership for a start and 1224 successful passes. Anyway, thats enough for me. You enjoy yourselves slating our club and I'll go and buy my new season ticket and look forward to another great season challenging for trophies and the Champs League. I suggest some of you go and support City because you are so jealous its embarrassing. We want to build a fortress but there are too many whingers inside making us look like pussies. |
AussieLion
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...Scott Parker Scott Parker? Sorry no way, I dont think he is better than Milner or would improve our team at all and Downing definitely cant be called a class winger. But what worries me most is that if MON does get 28m, he will use it on players like Parker, Zamora or Cole and not look out of England. Getting these sort of players would definitely weaken us, maybe even enough to drop out from 6th next season. Hopefully someone, maybe Randy Lerner, tells MON not to waste it on over priced English players and to start looking out of England or become more ambitious to the better players that already play there. |
Simeon
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... The Diamond I was relying on wikipedia as I haven't seen any of New Zealand's matches, but of course wikipedia isn't infallible. Anyway, he's young, and if he actually has some quality then he'd be the kind of player we should be looking at. |
Damian
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... JimVilla dont come back then - you have a choice and i dont think anyone actually wants to sell milner and i dont think everyone thinks he is our best player either and as for getting rid of o'neill - those that think that, i suspect, are the ones that want the football to develop and the club get better but this is the real world - £20mn + for milner is fantastic business as for the £60mn to finish 5th - it was a flippant comment but like i said in the exact same comment where i mention that - there are no guarantees and i eluded to why we wont get the money because lerner has figured it out - doesn't matter what you throw at o'neill - it wont get better but like i said - if it sickens you - dont visit - makes sense to me |
Chiefy
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... JimVilla - I do go the game and I do have a season ticket and no I dont bo. I am also a realist and with being a realist comes the fact they we do not have the type of money we need to strengthen the areas of the team that need strengthing. Citeh offering anywhere near 30million for a player we paid 12 for is great business. The world never ended when Barry left and the world will not end if Milner goes either. Have you seen some of the talent we have been linked with to replace him ????? It is MON fault why Milner is worth what he is and why he is playing in the middle, do you not think he can do it again ?? he has after all noticed it with Barry and Milner. Why you have to insult people just because there opinion on our so called "best player" is beyond me no player is bigger than the club get you head out your arse and realise Milner is not the be all and end all, he is a player with a terrific work rate but yet a winger who got constantly mugged, he put in a few good balls for England and one led to a goal. It doesnt make him a world beater there are better !!! |
jk92293
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... he did say "sometimes" though Damo, which means he loves most times surely? benefit of the doubt, perhaps ??  |
jk92293
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...The Fonz and Gary Gardener i'd like to think the likes of Bannen, Albrighton and Clrk will come good but i think they will be overlooked and we wont see them too often in the first team. its a shame but i think its the truth. |
Chiefy
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... Its beginning Barry is not happy with the signing of Yaya, and he is considering putting in a transfer request, if that happens and MON will have him back he will part of Milner deal if Milner wants to go, if it doesnt Barry will go Liverpool Mach will go inter parker will come villa dorrans will go west ham and O hara will go wba ........... |
jk92293
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...apprantley milner is a done deal when he gets back from hols it will be confirmed heard that too. might as well just plan for the future without him. i think its well past speculation or story spinning at this stage. |
Chiefy
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... tell something that Bousffffaaa bloke with have been linked with is an upgrade if you ask me, I think we are the winners if Milner goes I think we will sign a replacement who is up to the job and I think Milner will regret it, Barry did and now they have brought it Yaya. tell ya there is going to be tears and they wont be ours. talk is it is 28million 28 plus 15 in sale 43 million yes thats 43 million for reinforcements. 10-15mil on milner replacement 5-7 mil on right back 15-20 mil on striker transfer window DONE ! |
Chiefy
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... found this, this is a close to what our kit will looklike based on the rumours of it being on the holland shirt template, all that remains is if the tag line is under the sponsor or not |
jk92293
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...28 plus 15 in sale 43 million yes thats 43 million for reinforcements. not to mention the few quid Lerner may have thrown MONs way. hopefully he wont take it back becasue fo the windfall... |
jk92293
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... the shirt would be nice without the patterend side. if it was just blue, it would be sweet. |
Chiefy
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...not to mention the few quid Lerner may have thrown MONs way. hopefully he wont take it back becasue fo the windfall... forgot about the sponsor, so all in all on a positive front we could have potentially a 60million war chest thats with Lerner giving MON 17 million !!!! Now how can you moan at that and for what: Milner and the deadwood good business if you ask me |
VillaDude
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... Only 6 clubs in the prem who haven't signed a player so far...U just knew Villa would be one of them... Same ol links...Keane, Rodallega, McGeady ... snothing new, nothing exciting... |
DAJ
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... I think its time Martin aquired himself a high class but used Bentley. After a little work and a bit of added polish, we will be able to sell it to Man City in two years time for 60 million!!! Plays right hand side of centrally, will come pretty cheap, why not? |
JimVilla
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... If Milner is a done deal why are we still paying him whilst he's on holiday? I don't think Randy would let Jimmy say "yeah, I'm off to City - all agreed. Just give me another £80 grand whilst I hit the beach for a couple of weeks". More rumours to sell the red tops. You watch, people will now say Honda to Arsenal coz Wenger said he's player of the tournament. Doesn't matter that he just signed for CSKA 6 months ago and the buy out clause would mean he costs more than Torres. Tis the season for total bull s**t and we could start a rumour on here now that gets in the papers tomorrow. For example, have you heard that the reason Rafa left Liverpool was because he'd been shagging Gerrards 16 year old brother in law. The liverpool Echo has Benitez on record saying the youngsters performance was "perfect". |
JimVilla
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... by the way...it's only ever good business if you can replace them with better players. We could be the richest team in the country with no players because Spurs and City scupper our every bid. |
DAJ
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... Is Randy or Martin actually on record as saying that ALL the money we recieve for players, will be used for team building? £28 million coming into the club for one player, was certainly not on the agenda when Randy did those interviews a month or so ago. So we dont even know that the gaffer will rcieve the whole wedge. How do we know that some of it may be channelled elsewhere? Randy also said their was money already available. Will it be after we recieve the Milner money? He might turn around and say that the money recieved is suffice, and keep the money promised for team restructuring in his pocket, or use that somewhere else! All im saying is, all this talk of how much cash we may have after sales might be pretty optimistic, butin reality, could be well short of what we all think. Remember, Randy is trying to build up the clubs image and infrastructure without putting it into long term debt. He may have his own ideas on how this cash is going to be used or how much Martin actually sees of it. |
Chiefy
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...by the way...it's only ever good business if you can replace them with better players. have you seen bousafffaaa of what ever his name is ?? |
kie mcgrath
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... let milner go, in my opinion he isnt going to get alot better and its better to cash in on him now before there is less time on his contract meaning clubs will offer less, get stephen ireland in, hes younger and not far behind james milner. we also need a striker badly, maybe henry??? i know hes old but who cares about age when your good enough |
DAJ
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...DAJ ---- Thank you for pissing on my chips !!! He may get all the Milner Money, all the TV money, all the sponsership money, all the money from other sales, and Randy may throw in a wedge of twenty Million!!! There, your chips are safe! |
jk92293
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...Now how can you moan at that and for what: f**king great business!!! i would think Randy might put some of that cash under his matress for the stadium development though. |
jk92293
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...we also need a striker badly, maybe henry??? dont mention that cheating French f**k ever again!!  |
The Burp
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... Milner wasn't (isn't) the answer for us in the centre of midfield. He just helped to paper over the cracks as did Barry for the 2 years before that simply by being above average. We all know that we need some creativity alongside a workhorse type that can actually control and pass a football (unlike Coker). It's been said many times before butwith Milner you have a 7/10 assurance with him for every single game and whilst that's worth something I'm not convinced he can make the step up to 8 or 9 out of 10 on a consistent basis i just don't think he has the skill or range unfortunately. He's a good player and one that can handle pressure however I'm not wowed by one good season and the odd good through ball that any proffessional footballer could make. If we get the kind of money that is being talked about and reinvest well then we will be doing well as I really can't imagine looking at Milner in a few years time and regretting selling. |
Geoff
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... There was another link to Rodallega today, AND a link that says Villa will consider a 12M bid for Hatem Ben Arfa (Tunisia) Of Olympique Marseille when the Milner check clears. |
mon 4-5-1
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And how do replace them with better players. Unless you are the big four, or a Man City, you have to speculate to accumulate, that's the real world i'm afraid Jim. Now what the above entails is that you look for the same quality as what you have sold, at a cheaper price, which i am afraid to say O'Neil is incapable of doing. This purely due to the fact he does not look abroad, and his stubborness dictates that he probably never will. Actually his stubborness also dictates to shop for players at LastMinute.com, use the same 11 through the entire season, so i guess will be expecting the same outcome for this season as what we achieved last season. I just hope we do not drag out the Milner situation like we did with Barrygate, the only loser will be AVFC. We tried to hold onto Barry for a extra season at the cost of 6 million, and was it worth it? Ask yourself this, if Milner really wanted to stay, why has he not come out and said something like 'I am happy at Villa', and signed a contract extension. |
Maindog
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... Do people really think Man City will sign want Milner now. They have just signed 2 quality midfielders in David Silva and Yaya Toure. Would Milner even want to go now, knowing he will be way down in the pecking order...Barry, Viera, De Jong, yaya Toure. Mancini is like a rich fat kid iin a sweet shop. It will all end in vomit and tears soon when the sugar rush wears off. |
Geoff
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... Yes they do want him now, and he wants to leave, so let him leave. Plus, who cares where he fits into Man City? From a rational standpoint, I think SWP, De Jong, and Ireland will be sold (because that was what has been reported) to make room for the new three. Its not our responsibility to tell Mancini that he will sit on the bench and it will be a waste of money. Thats his problem. |
Geoff
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... Plus, we will get Barry back for 2M in a year or two at this rate because he isn't playing all that much there. |
Ned
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... A bit of news for you and you can believe it or not, it doesn't doesn't bother me one way or the other but I know Damo will like it as he has said this for a while now. 1. Reo-Coker is gone as soon as someone will pay £5million 2. Davies is gone too but they are asking too much. Don't know how much just that the value is too high and Newcastle wont pay it. Rumour that Spurs are interested but no approach to anyone. There has been interest from Newcastle to agent for Davies and Harewood - same agent for both players 3. Milner isn't happy about leaving. Loves it at Villa but he wants to go to get better as a footballer. He doesn't think it will happen under O'Neill for the club or him and is a bit disillusioned by the MON |
Geoff
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... Also, you have to love how MON does NOT understand what West Ham's owners mean when they say that Scott Parker is their ONLY player who is not for sale. Yet he is repeatedly linked with us. Gotta love wasting time, right! |
Geoff
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... This article will give some of you nightmares: http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/07/02/aston-villa-why-martin-o-neill-could-have-a-job-for-life-97319-26772568/ |
mon 4-5-1
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... Andy Nice article and would agree with most of that apart from the scott parker comment. He's 30 so has the most couple of years left, for someone playing in that role. 10 million could us a potential top draw centre midfielder from europe, rahter risk the money on potential, then a has been, winding down the clock. |
JimVilla
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... mon4-5-1 your point contradicts itself....if we can't replace milner because we are not Top4 - why sell him? Man City only want to weaken us and have another versatile option. Does Milner want to be a versatile player any more filling in and competing with the whos who of world football? He's a damn good attacking midfielder, solid winger and can do a job at full back at a push. He aint getting into centre mid at City next year and if he is up for the challenge - a Leeds boy in Manchester? You sure? If we sell him we have no ambition, if we keep him we should have taken the money and bought two decent players. We cannot win with some of you lot. You say why hasn't he said he wants to stay, well why hasn't he said he wants to go either? He'd be making more money by now if he had done. The fact is it isn't a done deal, there's no guarantee that the revenue will go on players, or that the transfer targets would want to join a club selling its best players. I have seen some of the players we're linked with - like the kid at Anderlecth that has been voted player of the year for 2 years running, and I know they rate him accordingly expecting bids of £20 million + for him. Ben Arfa - do we really need another left winger? Will we compete for him with Man Utd and Arsenal? There are some positions that we need to upgrade or replace in my opinion. Left wing is fairly low on the list unless we are selling Downing or Young. f**k the transfer rumours, they are just rumours 99.99% of the time - mostly started by us indirectly. On that note, I just saw Tony Mascrapone and Ricardo Rivita coming out of Bodymoor, the Italian under 21 full backs are set to be Villa's first signings of 2010. |
TheDiamond
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... If Reo-Coker leaves it will be very costly. He's extremely undervalued at this club. |
Geoff
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... He obviously does not really want to be here, because if he did he WOULD come out and say he wants to stay and signed for another year or two at least. Thats what players NORMALLY do when they are linked with an exit but they really want to stay. Most recent example? Diego Milito was rumored to be off to Real Madrid, instead, he said no, I want to stay and signed an extension. Milner has said NOTHING of wanting to stay, NOTHING. No extension despte pre-World Cup talks with Villa. What does that tell you? It tells me he is not 100 percent committed to Villa, which means he has to go. |
Geoff
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... NRC, really? I would say he is overvalued. Just a guy who goes out for a Saturday afternoon jog in the sun like John Alain Carew. |
Geoff
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... Would lvoe to see Villa sneak Robinho back here in a swap for Milner. Won't happen, MON would never even THINK about that. Or entertain that thought for a split second. |
VillaDude
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... Can you beleive who we are being linked with?? Modeste M'Bami! A player rejected by Portsmouth, Bolton Wanderers, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Wigan Athletic! http://www.skysports.com/story...32,00.html |
mon 4-5-1
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Jim I never said we cannot replace him. What I was trying to say is only top 4 side, or Man city have the ability to go and get a top draw ready made player, and can spend millions to achieve this. Surely our way forward is for us is to tap in at the potential talent across the world, but in general Europe, and nurture these players into the next stars playing for AVFC. British market is saturated, and players over priced. As far as it goes for Milner not saying he wants to leave, do you really expect him to say that? Milner actually saying nothing says it all frankly. Why has he not signed a contract extension when this has been on going since January? If he wants to leave great let him go for the right price. Most clubs have sold players on in the premiership, and this is the norm, it’s how things pan out, the trick is to have a manager who is savvy enough in the market to spot up and coming talent, and bring them to Villa park. And the thought the Man City want to weaken us, lets be real here, I think some how Man City have bigger fish to fry, and we need to take off our claret and blue specs once in a while. |
TheDiamond
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... Geoff. All it tells you is what the tabloid press want to print. That and nothing else. How far is that from the truth? Well put on a blind fold, spin three times and try to pin a tail on it. Nobody can know for sure. |
TheDiamond
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... Never thought I'd say this but Dirk Kuyt has been tremendous at this world cup. |
vivavilla
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... Kuyt always plays well for his country, he was one of the best players of the tournament at Euro 2008 as well. If only England had a few players with his passion. |
kohoutek
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... Well, I'd certainly sell Milner at £28m. I like him, but he's not going to be the answer in the middle. If he were in Petrov's role, with a more skillful midfielder ahead of him, then okay, keep him if we can sign that player without the Milner money. Tireless, can push forward, etc. That's what I'd be looking at if Milner's staying, NRC with a bit more class. |
kohoutek
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... I've always though Kuyt was a bit underrated. Sort of like Liverpool's Heskey, but seems to put himself about a lot more, and actually nicks the odd goal or two. |
richie
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... i loved watching milner all last season, but i would LOVE to see him go to city for 20mn and ireland or bellamy. MAKE IT HAPPEN MON!!! |
vivavilla
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...That's what I'd be looking at if Milner's staying, NRC with a bit more class. And talent. Lots more talent. |
john doyle
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... must sell him for that money for the kid himself he wont get any better under mon with his kick and rush football our coaching must be the worst in the prem at first team level and the best in the prem at reservs and youth team level milner would come on a bundel under another manager so would gabby and ash we need a new coach who can teach our players to hold the ball and keep it not boot it up the pitch and see who can get it first us or them would love to keep him but under mons coaching he will regress as ash has done and gabby has .and the only thing wrong is what will mon do with the money buy the likes of heskey or keno or other has beens like he has in the past i wait and see but either way would love him to get rid of the dead wood but they wont go the bloodsuckers will stay on there 50k a week and sit and watch thanks to the great contracts mon has given them get the youth in and have some bottel mon for a change .and this season please dont keep saying we where brillint as you did with our draw with west ham and the rest of the point you threw away at home with your negative play as usual |
kohoutek
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Yes. I shouldn't have said "bit"...he's quite a bit better than that. |
john doyle
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... sorry but have had a conversation with sid cowans who states that the fonz is the best natural footballer at the club by a long way and is the best young player he has worked with since Gary Shaw who was as i rember youg eurpoen footballr of the year i respect this guys judgment better than mons he was a far better player than mon . we need to build our team around himup front with albrighton on the wing next year |
john doyle
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... sorry but have had a conversation with sid cowans who states that the fonz is the best natural footballer at the club by a long way and is the best young player he has worked with since Gary Shaw who was as i rember youg eurpoen footballr of the year i respect this guys judgment better than mons he was a far better player than mon . we need to build our team around himup front with albrighton on the wing next year |
Andy
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... I'm assuming this post is at least a couple of weeks old, as these are the points that have been discussed to death. Hehe...I said Holland would win the WC when it started. I'll admit it was not through judgement, more through I just like the way they play and they are kinda underdogs with potential to do well. I think it's time we had a Boeteng at Villa Park again |
cyprusvilla
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... go to you tube bousouffa baradona and you will see milners replacement please tell o neill this player is ccclllaaasssssss |
TheDiamond
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... Does anyone here actually believe we'll get 20m plus a player worth having for Milner and why would they sell Bellamy? He was city's best player after Tevez last year. |
Chiefy
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... Honda would come premiership says his agent, villa led chase for onhua, mbai is talking himsef up no comment from club just him biggin himself up like zigic did......tit. |
bobvillian
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... forget about all these links about players where after;all agents talking up players.wait until someone walks through door then we can all slate MON for being inept and stupid? |
Leroy
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... Ins - Hugo Rodellega - 13.25mil Mbarks Boussouffa - 12.5mil Kevin Prince Boatang - 16.mil Stephen Ireland - P/Ex Milner Total 41.75mil Outs - Milner - 20mil plus Ireland Nigel Reo Coker - 5.2mil (Blackburn, Fulham, West Ham, Sunderland) Steve Sidwell - 3.5mil (Fulham, Sunderland, Stoke) Nicky Shorey - 1.5mil (Fulham, Notts Forest) Heskey - 3mil (Stoke, Wigan) Carew - 5mil (Arsenal, Valencia, Fulham) Total - 38.7mil This scenario allows us to have another look at Davies, of whom i think is going to be a very good player in the future. It also means that Randy would stump up around 5mil...if he didnt wish to do so then we could take Keane in place of Rodallega. This would make Villa a phenomenal team....plenty of go but also plenty of goals....a summer like that would have most thinking MON is a god |
Jon Leake
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... i agree with leroy , that would be some great business and would give villa fans a real reason to feel excited about the new season |
Kneel before the Mighty 'O'
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... Outs Friedel - £4m Cuellar - £15m Dunne - £9m Collins - £14m Warnock - £17m Downing - £22m Petrov - £7m Milner - £3m + Barry, Adebayor, Kompany, Richards and De Jong Young - £47m Gabby - £39m Carew - £13m 'Dead Wood' - £46m Total - £236m + Barry, Adebayor, Kompany, Richards and De Jong Ins Neuer - £12m Coentrao - £11m Lucio - £12m Ramos - £17m Schweinsteiger - £24m Sanchez - £11m Aguero - £22m Sneijder - £25m Robben - £14m Fabiano - £16m Higuain - £9m Total - £185m The rest of the squad would be made up of our youngsters. Barry would be the ball boy, and would be forced to wear lederhosen and black plimsolls. We have to get some value out of hos £150k a week wages! I predict that the team would need a couple of months to gel. We'd need to be patient and give O'Neill time because we might be bottom half at the end of October. But after that, we would win EVERY game. We would win the LEAGUE. Obviously the FA Cup doesn't start until later on in the season, so we'd win that too. Depending on whether we got through the Europa League group stage, we might win that too. I hope so, because we'd NEVER be in that competition again. Champions League all the way baby! As you may have noticed, we'll have made a massive profit on our transfer dealings. Villa Park could be expanded ALOT. "Build it and they will come!" The other thing the money would come in handy for is paying off Fat Barry. O'Neill is hardly going ot let him share in the glory of our successes! But actually it would be nice gesture, because the useless waste of space could go and find his level, having grabbed his cash. I think he could still cut it in the Premier League though. The BLUE SQUARE Premier League! mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
frem
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... ins keane eduardo ireland barry mathews two smart strikers who get goals. we have 4 strikers altogether. good options. barry can play holding role or box to box where he was brilliant at villa. ireland, well you all know what i think of him. mathews. a right back. yey |
frem
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... brad. f mathews collins dunne warnock young barry ireland ben arfa eduardo gabi guzan carlos downing petrov fonz keane albriton not bad |
cyprusvilla
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... gyan ,prince boating,kingson,bousouffa,ireland,doyle all in heskey,sidwell,milner,shorey,reo-coker allout |
DAJ
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... Ive just had one of those moments in life, where you can actually peer into the future. Yep, Nostrildamos aint got nothing on me Mudder Fokker!! Fast forward to June the 1st, 2011. New York. And Randy is in a deep and detailed discussion with a German Klingon called Klinsmann. The jerry is interested......very interested, but how much cash will he be given to restructure the team.... Randy is very reluctant after seeing the millions squandered by a certain irish fella, and does not want to bankrupt the club. Youve read it here first |
DAJ
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...Looks like everyone wants us to continue playing 4-4-2. 4-4-2 is ok. The problem comes when you are to rigid in that belief. |
Geoff
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... Whoa there...Richard Kingson could not play for Wigan, as Roberto Martinez released him - because he sucks. Gyan plays for Stade Rennais in France, hardly a top tier club, and nobody is beating down their doors to get him. Now, I think Wenger will buckle and sell us Eduardo - who will be excellent when he is healthy. Then you turn around and bring in Robbie Keane as it looks like Carew is going to leave after talks about his future. I cannot see why they do not want Steven Ireland, but if they really like Hatem Ben Arfa then thats more like it. To the guy who posted that unrealistic transfer window...Higuain for 9M HAHAHHAHA He is signed to a brand new contract at Madrid and scores more goals than Gabby ever will. Get with the program kiddo |
Geoff
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... If they offered us Robinho I would be ecstatic, but we would get no extra cash because he is valued higher than Milner. MON wouldn't know what to do with a player of that quality. |
Geoff
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... Thats about right...or central holding midfielder!00 Also, Klinsmann will not be available to manage anyone by then because he has been tipped to finally take over and manage the US International Squad (he has live in California for 12 years). He was asked to 4 years ago but he turned it down to take time off, now he is rested and ready. With Jurgen at the helm I trust him to find a striker and build a team that can make the last 8 again like they did in 2002. |
Geoff
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... I hope someone goes and replaces Capello, like Harry Redknapp, mainly so that he can stop doing damage against us at Spurs, and that Spurs hire Capello! So that they have another Martin O'Neill type to waste all that money on backup bench players. |
frem
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... id love barry back if the reports are right. i still think hes a top player. his role at city kills him, he should come back and play box to box where he shines. ben arfa is a top. he will add competition and bring creativity. keane and eduardo. are issue upfront is sortet. we have two 20 goal a season strikers. gabi would shine with both so would fonz. stephen ireland is a very good player as well. get him on the cheap and happy days. these are all improvements on what we have and will make us a challange for 4th place |
DanWilson82
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... So are England good again now? I mean, atleast we put one past Germany (or 2) and Argentina just got stuffed 4-0. |
bobvillian
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... danwilson82=trust me england are s**t;but i woulnt mind a few of them germans down villa park? |
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... All nations should take FIFA to court and declare this world cup illegal. The football is not a "football" it is a "jubilani ball", which does not comply with a standard and can not by any imagination be defined as a standard football. Therefore this can not be defined as a football competition. All top managers have complained about the ball. Everyone except for Germany has been introduced to the Jubulani ball in the last weeks. The Germans have had it to practice with for 12 months. This is outrageously unfair. Can you imagine Wimbledon changing the weight and skin of a tennis ball before the competition and then only allow Andy Murray to practice with the ball for the previous twelve months. Its a ridiculous thought, but that is exactly what FIFA has done. Once again, this world cup should be declared illegal and replayed with a proper ball. The very least England or Argentina should do is challenge to play Germany any time and place after the world cup, but with a normal ball. Then we will see the truth! |
Chiefy
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... John A -- straws clutching at, rearrange. Give it a rest the England camp had chance to train with the ball, Capello refused. Honestly. A ball is a ball which ever way you dress it |
DAJ
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...All nations should take FIFA to court and declare this world cup illegal. Have you got any spare Mushrooms? |
Chiefy
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... Hodgson wants A.Young according to reports, we offered young to chelski according to some |
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... i am a regular on this blog and what i am about to say is embarrassing for me but i dont know where else to go. it has nothing what so ever to do with villa, its about love . im only 16 and around school i am a person who keeps a low profile and is shy. anyway ive just came back from a cornwall trip with about 50 other students and i noticed something about this girl, it just caught my eye on how she was looking at me. it was just her actions that got me thinking. something happened which got me really thinking that she might actually like me. the point is i dont know what to do. im to scared to say anything to her. ive got the prom on thursday and it might be the last time i see her. on the way back from cornwall for 5 hours she was all i thought about and the same today. im sorry if this has offended anyone, but could you please help me |
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... Re. Germany, They look like a team which has prepared properly – that includes the new ball. They play better football, pass and move better, are better organized, play 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1 perfectly. They also had more energy than we did. Lets face it we didn’t even look like a team. Yes, I would love a couple of their midfield at V.P. Note they don't have a defensive midfielder they just all work hard. Mark either Schweinsteiger or Ozil out of the game and the other one runs it. Food for thought for sure. |
Noel
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... Harriers bring in Mark Albrighton Express & Star -12:37 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 Anyone else see this headline on newsnow an crap a fart ??? http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/430343344?-11177 |
DanWilson82
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... *************** - treat her like a C**T, tell her she is vile, that you hate her and everything about her, then she will come running - case study, every single girl in Aylesbury. Don't be nice, she will end up shagging your best mate. |
DanWilson82
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... oh and Noel - yep, me too, but it's some oap isn't it? Our Albrighton is destined for big things this year, I can feel it in my loins. |
fastbackace
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... so no liverpool wants A young... we might as well sell him too since we seem ok with selling our best players... all u seem like it ok to sell our players for the right price... what happens when they come in for ash with the right price, and gabby, and dunne, and others? its the people who feel we need to sell, that make us feeder clubs. gives other teams, maybe even higher up teams the idea that we can be bought, that we have a price. |
DAJ
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...am a regular on this blog and what i am about to say is embarrassing for me but i dont know where else to go. No man.........coming out is accepted now bruv. Respect to you me man.....quality! I remember when i findz out im straight man. Respect to the teacher though, cos she made me come for a long time! Never ever looked at another geez the same way since man. Then again boss.....never looked at a geez before it man, uless it waz five ho...... But theez german geez av some real quality man. I meanz they bomed the s**t out of Coventry, and that has to be good, yeah? OK man, they missed st andrews...but hey, they came out and did it..... Im a mushroom, the worlds an egg omelette, and i have 25,000 gerbils nobody wants. |
Geoff
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... I love Villa, but until the owner REGULARLY pumps 40+ M into the team in EVERY SINGLE transfer window without having to sell first, we will become a glorified feeder club who will be into the Europe League every time out. Because if you want to rise in the top 4 you have to pony up the big cash for the top players. Thats the reality. So, until we get the right bunch of replacements in or the owner ponies up the cash, yeah, go sell Young, Milner, Gabby, whoever, and invest the money in young players with superstar potential and solid premier league veteran players. I mean, we do NOT know how much Lerner will put in, so all we have to go on is sell to buy, and sell to buy in its NATURE IS a feeder club mentality. If thats what we are doing then that is what we are right now. Though, albeit a very good one on the brink of becoming something greater... |
Geoff
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... Actually if we sold Milner and Ashley Young we would have TONS of cash to spread around and we could buy a pretty sick team with that...though I now think Young will have a breakout season, playing with a chip on his shoulder about getting left out of the England squad. |
Geoff
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... At least we are linked with Ireland again! He could be a superstar I really do think. he is only 22/23 |
Geoff
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... Also since i have been dating a girl from Columbia, please Villa - go buy one of Huge Rodallega, Radamel Falcao, or Napoli's Zuniga so that she will not get annoyed when I watch the games this coming season. |
Chiefy
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... Check the news hodgson linked with everyone under the sun,some of need to chill out a little |
TheDiamond
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... john a: Where did you find this info? "Everyone except for Germany has been introduced to the Jubulani ball in the last weeks. The Germans have had it to practice with for 12 months. This is outrageously unfair" |
Tom-Mufc
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... As long as the usual idiot doesnt come to my team, man utd then i couldnt care less what happens to him !!! he has no chance of gettin ahead of carrick, fletcher and scholes |
Alex
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... Selling Milner would be like selling Yoorke all ove agaim. Top player leaving and us being unable to quite fill the gap. Result: another few years of struggle and strife while we scrabble around for scaraps and our rivals go forging ahead once more. Milner should be kept at all costs. |
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