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Aston Villa live: West Ham, live updates, team news, banter and a kebab

James Collins and Nigel Reo-Coker both go back to a former club tonight and I have a feeling one will get a good reception and one wont and you know I can smell three points, much like you can smell a greasy kebab van from 300 feet at 3am on a Saturday morning walking the streets of East London after walking out of a dodgy strip club and drinking enough alcohol to put a normal man of normal size asleep for a good few hours.

I only mention that as it was something I did on a Thursday night a few years ago while working in Clerkenwell and I can tell you that it is almost impossible to find a shop around that part of London open at 8am to buy a new pair of socks. Shirt and tie is no problem, but socks - no chance.

Anyway, there will be changes tonight. Carlos is suspended for this game so there is a chance Beye might start or you never know, Luke Young might also get a game if he is fit and I sort of fancy that if he is, he'll start ahead of Beye. Beye looks like one of those players that O'Neill has bought and almost instantly regretted it.

I actually quite like him and have to say I was surprised he didn't get a proper run to show us what he has, but O'Neill is the manager and he has honed his skills over years, so he must know what he is doing.

Cha Cha Cha Changes

There is also every chance that Petrov and Milner wont make tonight after both picked up knocks at the weekend dropped points match at Everton. Milner came off at half time in that match while Petrov was replaced very late on by Reo-Coker. None of this is yet confirmed but even if they are, the players that will be replacing them are, for me anyway, more than stand in players, so it shouldn't disrupt the team momentum.

You have to fancy that Reo-Coker will start if Petrov is not available but you might also not be surprised if Delph got a run, but if he did pick Delph to play alongside Sidwell in the middle, I know I'd be hearing groans, but I'd quite like to see it. I would much rather see us play with three in the middle if Delph starts and I'm not saying he isn't up for it, I'm just saying that I think there needs to be a level of protection for a player that carries so much expectation on his shoulders.

But a central midfielder for a central midfielder is a fairly straight swap. The big decision tonight is who to replace James Milner with, if he doesn't make it. Now, you've got to hope that Marc Albrighton gets the nod, I'm sure the player does too and based on his performances in the pre-season tournament that we won, you might even be a little surprised that he hasn't featured more already, but the thing is, O'Neill doesn't go on positions, he does tend to go on players he likes.

I'm not saying he doesn't like Albrighton, but he isn't one of his players and never will be. Albrighton is from a time before O'Neill got here and while he has featured, maybe O'Neill is waiting to hear or see something from the player that makes him his. I hope he gets the chance tonight, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Heskey playing for Milner or Cueller and us only improve the number of players we use this season by one or two.

Where to Watch

You could pop down to the pub or you could watch at Villa Streams. I for one would pick the pub but if you can't and you are stuck at work or an airport terminal and need to watch the match, you know the best option. Otherwise, I have a feeling you might find a link or two in the comment below closer to kick off.

West Ham: The London Spammers

I call them spammers as they'll be a few leaving comments here today that won't get published and they are the worst team from London when it comes to abusive comments and well, it doesn't matter what I say, it will happen, but I have a bit of time for West Ham.

Not as a football club or because I have any liking towards them, but because of Gianfranco Zola. He was one of those players you turned on to watch a game for and he was an absolute football genius, still is and that is why I have a bit of time for West Ham.

I'd love to see him do well. The football that I saw them play last season was fairly decent and it was clear what he was trying to do and I for one hope he achieves it over time. You actually want players like that to make good managers because players like that will only create teams that play good football. It's good for everyone.

Prediction Panel

I have to say an away win tonight, but it ultimately doesn't matter what the result it. It does, but if we win it is an expected result based on current form and league position but if we lose, they'll still be those that defend the defeat by saying we're seventh in the table. A draw will be a good result away from home and that will be after 3 shots on target in ninety minutes.

So, I'm saying an away win, because we are due a good performances and you have to assume that West Ham are going to come at us, which is exactly what we need from the opposition, to allow us to play our almost long ball, counter attacking football. We will go fourth too and for that reason, I don't mind if it is long ball football, as long as it is three points.

Player to Watch

If he plays, Carlton Cole will want to do well and he might. He is turning into a very decent player and one maybe we should have done more to keep hold of when we had the opportunity, although it never really seemed to happen for him with us, but you can be excuses for blaming the manager of the time.

For us, it has to be Ashley Young. It will come good for him sooner or later and I for one hope it happens tonight. He is no Ronaldo but he does have qualities that you don't often see in a footballer. It is getting to that stage thought that we need to see it again and on a regular basis. If he doesn't shine, then you've got to fancy we are going to need Collins and Dunne to have good games, which they will.

The Players

Friedel, Beye, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Young, Sidwell, Petrov, Agbonlahor, Heskey, Carew.

Subs: Guzan, Luke Young, Shorey, Albrighton, Delph, Reo-Coker and Delfouneso.

Comments (471)add comment

Andi said:

Chiefy
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Damian - "the weekend dropped points match" WHY do it ??? is it so hard to keep things positive is it that difficult ?
Comment 1, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.59 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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picked up knocks at the weekend dropped points match at Everton

Let it go Damien for crying out loud mate.
Comment 2, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.04 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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on main site young and beye both fit fancy young to get the nod though good news there also looks like coker will be starting
Comment 3, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.09 am

rackface said:

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I agree with what you say about Delph Damien. I think he is a bit lightweight at the moment to play in a 2 man central midfield. I think he would flourish with 2 experienced guys next to him.

Tonight, I think we should play 4-3-3. (presuming Milner and Petrov are out)

Friedel

Beye
Collins
Dunne (c)
Warnock

Reo-Coker
Sidwell
Delph

Young
Carew
Agbonlahor
Comment 4, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.11 am

Damian said:

Damian
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i for one think that saying we dropped points against everton is positive. i'm setting my stall higher than accepting a point against an under strength team as a good result. if we start accepting points away from home in matches that, on paper, was ours for the taking, then we set ourselves up for mediocrity
Comment 5, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.13 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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He is turning into a very decent player and one maybe we should have done more to keep hold of when we had the opportunity, although it never really seemed to happen for him with us, but you can be excuses for blaming the manager of the time.

Why? he's been a waste of space for so long only Mystic Mege would have kept him in the team.

they'll still be those that defend the defeat by saying we're seventh in the table. A draw will be a good result away from home and that will be after 3 shots on target in ninety minutes.

A draw is a good result away from home. This is a game I fully expect us to win however. This is a marker for where we finish imo. Not Everton who are so on a par with us it's silly. West Ham away, evening kick off, it'll be a bit of a hostile atmosphere down there and we have two of our most influential players out potentialy so it will be a tough game.

Albrighton doesn't need to play. Why? I'd rather exploiut them down the right with Gabbys pace and double up in midfield by adding Delph to the mix who seems a better prospect than Albrighton and plays in a much more important postion for us. Better to give him pitch time, Marc can wait.

We have other players with experience who can play, why risk him in a game as important as this?

4-5-1 away from home and hit them on the break. Gabby on the right and Carew up top. NRC in for Petrov. Luke in for Cuellar and this is the team that will play tonight.
----------Friedel-------------
Young--Collins--Dunne--Warnock
Gabby-NRC--Sidwell-Delph-Young
---------Carew/Heskey---------

Am I right or am I right?

That team can beat west ham. We must keep the ever improving Jack Collison quiet and stop service into Cole. Keeps those two quiet and you have them beaten. They are pretty good defensively so we need a big performance from whoever plays up front. A huge opportunity for Delph if he comes in.
Comment 6, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.16 am

Damian said:

Damian
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Juan Pablo Angel

You fully expect to win. What happens if we don't; Will you be disappointed? If you fully expect to win, I suspect yes.

My point is, if we draw, it will be passed off as a good result and if we win, it will be passed off as 'we're still 7th' - but we fully expected to win .. and not, if that is the case, is where the gap is.
Comment 7, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.25 am

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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"the weekend dropped points match"

Very clever Damian smilies/smiley.gif

I don't see Albrighton starting.
Just no chance, imo.
I'm not sure I want him to anyway. But I would like to see him come on later.

That aprt, I've given up guessing, but whoever he picks it'll be his favourites as you say.
Comment 8, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.29 am

rockyvilla said:

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Read the first part Damien and thought Carew had posted - just thought he got London and Birmingham mixed up smilies/wink.gif

would like to see line up of:-

carew

ash-delph-rio-gabby-allbrighton

warnock-dunne-collins-luke

friedel

Think collins need to mark cole closely

cole is better now than he was at villa (just like cahill is)

need the fullbacks to support the wingers.

Ash imo is trying to hard to impress capello by taking people on instead of passing it, especially when they double mark him (someone must be free). Also if he got the ball earlier and crossed it first time before he was stifled more chances would fall to the forwards.

would like to see jm left wing and ay right when (jm fit)and the two switching with gabby in games. How would they be marked?

We can win tonight we just have to play better than them and get the luck as well.

UTV
Comment 9, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.30 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Damien. I thought we might get a draw away at Goodison as they are a really good side despite injuries. Everyone told me I was a pessimist. I am not, I know what i'm talking about. We drew, I was right, I was not disappointed because we could have lost that game.

West Ham will be tough but they are not as good as Everton. If we win I am pleased, if we draw I am disappointed, but life goes on. If we lose I am philosophical and look to the next game. It depends upon the nature of theloss/draw and how we play.

We will win, I can feel it this time, the same wayI could feel the slip up at Molineux, the win agianst Chels and the draw against Everton. We'll win this and we'll be fourth in the league going into the weekend.
Comment 10, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.32 am

Woz_UK said:

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If we get 3 points tonight then thats 4 from the last 2 games (2 points per game!!)
For the season so far that will average out at just a tiny bit short of 2 points per game.
If we carry that on for the rest of the season we would end up with 76 points, that would have been sufficient for us to finish 4th in any of the last 4 seasons.

Stop bloody moaning!smilies/grin.gif
Comment 11, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.35 am

Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!! said:

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Petrov will make it, Milner will not.

It will be...

Friedel
L Young Collins Dunne Warnock
Gabby Reo Petrov Sidwell Young
Carew

Guzan
Shorey
Beye
Clark
Delph
Albrigton
Heskey
Comment 12, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.37 am

villarobin said:

villarobin
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would have thought that Champions league will be on in the pubs tonight , no ??
Comment 13, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.38 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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One thing you guys might find interesting, I'm in the year 2015 in my new Football Manager game and Villa have just won the Premiership. It's been pretty realistic, the big four/Spurs/Man City have all been loitering around the top then out of nowhere Villa won the FA Cup then the league title the year after.

Owen Coyle is the manager. Delfouneso is brilliant, he and Gabby both scored 20+ goals and Delph is amazing.

A glimpse into the future smilies/wink.gif
Comment 14, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.40 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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the day is upon us has EMULE has his wetabix he better i have a £10 on him to score tonight with Villa to win 2-0. Come on Bruno show us what your made of and show Carlton that you are the one and only lump to wear and England shirt !
Comment 15, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.45 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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I think we will struggle in the centre of the park tonight. West Ham will pass it around lot so i think MON will opt to put an extra man in there. I must say im not confident at all. I have a feeling we will lose tonight. CM battle will be everything.
Comment 16, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.46 am

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
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morning all is the match on tv tonight?
Comment 17, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.49 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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ak, we can win this mate. Come on, i'm not saying it'll be easy but i think we have enough to do it.
Comment 18, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.50 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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game not on tele tonight, is on the villa stream thingy and myp2p.eu
Comment 19, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.51 am

Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!! said:

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Totally agree ak_27 but this is true in all levels of football in every match. The game is won and lost in the centre of the park. You win that battle, you win the game.

Unfortunately our centre midfielders are not good enough for us to play just 2 of them. Petrov maybe but not one other from Sidwell, Reo, Delph or Gardner.

Therefore means we have to play 3 in there for them to be effective.

Just can't believe MON doesn't see this.
Comment 20, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.53 am

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
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thanks chiefy
Comment 21, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.53 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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sky reckon in their preview we will line up like so

brad
young collins dunne warnock
delph reo sidwell young
carew and gabby

quite like the look of that
Comment 22, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.54 am

Woz_UK said:

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Chiefy,
I too like that!
Except maybe swap Delph and A Young as I think Delph prefers the left??
Comment 23, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.56 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I wonder if O'Neill will change to the 4-3-1-2 he utilised at the end of the 2007/08 season, with Young playing the "roaming" role across the whole of the midfield. He caused havoc during that time.
Comment 24, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.03 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Im basing a lot on how i think tonights game will go on last years incounter which may not be the best way to do it. On the plus side we have a very good defense now which is more inclined to pass and keep the ball better then last seasons. This should improve tonight if we play an out and out RB in that position. Should give us more balance.

On the flip side we were played off the park here last season and that was with Barry in the CM. Now i know they haven't been playing too well but i still think they will pass us off the park tonight. It will be a case of us trying to hang on in there and snatch a victory. At least they don't have Bellamy who really was very good againest us in this fixture so thats something and hopefully Cartlon Cole won't cause too much trouble as i think Dunne and Collins actually like playing againest his type of striker.

Im going over and back on this game but there is a doubt in the back of my mind about this team from the midfield forward that i think will be shown up going to places like West Ham. I just have bad feeling. I just can't see our CM being up to the job.
Comment 25, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.05 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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viva - i think we could well see the formation come back but i dont think we will see it till downing is fit though
Comment 26, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.06 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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tonight we play second from bottom who have managed one win all season, so i fully expect three points tonight, i will be so peeved off if we lose,then maybe some of the over optimists on here will be able to say we are expecting too much from the team.
this really is a must win game as we have had our slip ups this season wigan, blackburn so we cant keep losing to LESSER sides if we want to maintain 6th never mind challenge fourth.
this is not a negative post just very realistic.


utv
Comment 27, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.07 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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hotlend paul - i would agree with you there mate add wolves to your list as well, however that was individual error of a player not good enough but we still continue to play him, just think when we dont play him it will be like having 11 players instead of 10.
Comment 28, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.15 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
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I agree with a lot of what Ak-27 says. The biggest thing about this fixture, this time around, is the absence of Craig Bellamy becuase he scared us to death (bloody good player who we should've signed, MON could have tamed his badboy nature- much like Mark Hughes appears to have).

They've got Scott Parker back from suspension, he's a very, very good midfielder who I think will have too much for our lads in the middle tonight. But I don't see West Ham bothering our back 4 too much- particularly if Luke Young plays.

It'll be either a drab 0-0, or a 1-0 snatched victory either way. I'd take the draw.
Comment 29, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.19 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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paul, Can we afford to if we keep beating the top teams?
we cant keep losing to LESSER sides if we want to maintain 6th never mind challenge fourth.




Viva,
Except maybe swap Delph and A Young as I think Delph prefers the left??

Delph is two footed but does play on the left. I'd like to see him tucked in on that side and pushing wide when we attack giving Ash more space to roam, cut inside and get a shot off.

richarddunne,
Unfortunately our centre midfielders are not good enough for us to play just 2 of them. Petrov maybe but not one other from Sidwell, Reo, Delph or Gardner.

We beat Chelsea at home like that.


ak, Gabby and Young down the right I like. and Warnock and Young down the left with Delph supporting when we have the ball. Question marks over NRC and Sidwell, lets hope Nige stakes a claim for a start and has another Anfield performance. If only we had Torres to play up front on his own.smilies/grin.gif
Comment 30, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.19 am

TheGreatDane said:

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Come on MON, Albrighton and "the Delph bomber" have to be played!!!

UTV
Comment 31, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.20 am

tubbydunne said:

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I feel we will get win tonight. I don't care who comes in for Ceullar as I think there isn't much of a difference between Beye and Young. Think Petrov will play and Gabby will go to the right hand side with Reo coming into a five man midfield and its a toss up between Carew and Heskey to see who starts as the lone striker.

Keep a close eye on Jack Collison for the Hammers tonight. The 21 yr old Welsh international midfielder is playing well at the moment and I could see M.O.N. looking at him to bolster our midfield (young and Brittish). Forget about all those foreign marquee names that have been spouted can anyone seriously see one of them coming. I think we are better off without them anyway.
Comment 32, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.21 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
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I remember growing up and having it drummed into me that you should 'win your home games, draw your away'.

That mentality seems to have been forgotten. I appreciate that it would 'only' get you 76 points, probabaly not enough to win the league- but we're not even in that game anyway. So these away ponts everyone keeps moaning about,regardless of opposition are all well earned- IF we can win at home.
Comment 33, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.23 am

Gavin Merriman said:

MerryMan
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If we win today and don't slip up against bolton at home, we'll move into 3rd place (even if only until arsenal play wolves).

I'm hoping to see delph and luke young get a run out with albrighton on as a sub. But i wouldn't really care if salifou played in goal, just so long as we win and play well.

Come on webcam, show us what you're made of son.
Comment 34, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.25 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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chiefy...
i dont see the wolves game as lost points because i went to that game and it was a most horrible day weather wise and also a local derby away.
this west ham side is woefully short on confidence especially after giving a two goal lead away the weekend so cant buy a victory at the moment so i really think too many people are giving west ham too much respect after all zola is their manager and will NOT be playing tonight!!.
Comment 35, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.27 am

FatKevs said:

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I can see why most are happy the clubs approach to football if we get a point great & if we lose we are the best anyway so we may get a point next week it great being 6
Comment 36, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.28 am

WinsforVilla said:

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This would be my team for tonight;

Guzan

L Young
Warnock
Collins
Dunne

Albrighton
Reo Coker
Sidwell
Gardner
A Young

Agbonlahor

Subs;
Friedel
Shorey
Clark
Delph
Delfouneso
Carew

But I may be a little mad!!
Comment 37, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.29 am

Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!! said:

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A bit dissapointed that we haven't sold our allocation for tonight. Only 2200. I appreciate it's a Wednesday night game and we've had 4 away trips on the trot but we keep saying what a big club we are and we've only sold out at home once and can't snap up 2200 away tickets?
Comment 38, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.29 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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paul, West ham could have won against Arsenal had Scott Parker not gone and they were very unlucky against Sunderland it was a fantastic strike from Reid from a FK that changed the game. They are playing ok and have some good young talent. It will be a challenge but we can and I feel we will get something out of it. I want a win.
Comment 39, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.30 am

kingfisher villa said:

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i am just setting off from great barr to see the mighty villa hammer those irons,and i also have a mad feeling heskey will score our winnersmilies/shocked.gif
Comment 40, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.32 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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JPA i think NRC will do what he is on the pitch to do. But it will only be effective if once he wins it that the other players around him then do not go and give it away straight after. Tonight is a game when keeping the ball will be vital.

Thats if he actually plays NRC.
Comment 41, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.32 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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ak, If Petrov is out he is a shoe-in. I think you're right. We need to keep the ball and use it intelligently. This west ham side may crumble if we score early. The mood in their camp looks fragile at the moment and if we get a goal against the run of play say, i think their heads will go down. If however they score first we have more than enough to get us back in it.

NRC, Delph and Sidwell across the middle for me.
Comment 42, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.35 am

JohnnyMcleod said:

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I'd really like to see us play a bit of footie tonight, but if we start with Reo Coker, Sidwell, and Heskey it will be dour and not for the faint hearted. I'd play Gabby wide right, Carew in the middle, and Ashley left. Petrov will be a big miss as he's our only central midfielder who is comfy on the ball and can ping it more than 10 yards, I'd really like to see Delph given a chance but I don't think he'll pick him.
I hope Milner is out, I don't think he'll be missed at all, can't remember the last time he did anything memorable in a game, utterly overrated.
What's happened to Gardner and Albrighton they don't even make the bench these days.

Prediction: crapp first half (as usual), got draw written all over it.
Comment 43, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.35 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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richard dunne my lord...
have you got yours?

jpa....
i have said many times that relegation and top four is a very fine line or one mistake a match.but i honestly think our team are too good for west ham, we cant keep goin on past results or last season for that matter as its the prsent we are in and presently west ham are not very good FACT and we should be beating them.
Comment 44, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.38 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Johnnymcleod,
If you think Milner never does anything go and watch Hansen's little piece on Milner from MotD two weeks ago. He does more than you give him credit for mate. After showing some clips of Milner being awesome, he says that he thinks he could develop into a World Class talent. Give it a watch mate, it's interesting.
Comment 45, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.39 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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merryman - Salifou in goal smilies/cheesy.gif love it get let Slaifou play rush keeper then we are cert to win smilies/cheesy.gif can you imagine Salifou playing never mind playing rush keeper smilies/cheesy.gif

talking of that the reason i had a bet i had a dream we beat west ham and EMULE was playing rush keeper and scored a mardonna esque goal taking everyone onsmilies/grin.gif
Comment 46, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.39 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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paul, you're right, there is fine line and if West Ham put a couple of results together they could have a decent season. Look at Pompey, they were'nt playing badly they just weren't getting results and now they look like they are getting the results their performances have warranted. There is a fine line between winning and losing in this league. but you are right, we should win this. I know we will anyway.
Comment 47, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.41 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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talking of that the reason i had a bet i had a dream we beat west ham and EMULE was playing rush keeper and scored a mardonna esque goal taking everyone onsmilies/grin.gif


....what?? then falling over and punching it into the net?? smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 48, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.41 am

villan-chelt said:

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wheres the best place to watch it on the internet tonight my fellow villans
Comment 49, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.41 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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are you on drugs chiefy? smilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Comment 50, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.42 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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No but I think he needs to be!smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 51, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.46 am

tubbydunne said:

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If Petrov plays which I think he will

Friedel
Beye/Young Collins Dunne Warnock

Gabby Sidwell Petrov Reocoker Young

Heskey/Carew

With Milner out we need a five man midfield to make up for all the defensive work he does. He has the best engine in the P.L. and how many times has he saved us by getting back and nicking the ball off opposition attackers. Granted I think he still leaves a lot to be desired with his creativity and goal threat and I also think his crossing can improve, but hey if he had all that he would be the best in the world
Comment 52, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.52 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
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It's on ShowSports via Arabic Tv, available at any shifty pub...
Comment 53, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.54 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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Villa Chris -- hoesntly i had a dream that is how heskey scored so first thing tuesday i put the bet on honest, THE MULE RETURNS TO FORM i can see the headline now.smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 54, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.54 am

Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!! said:

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holteend paul said:
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richard dunne my lord...
have you got yours?

Yes.
Comment 55, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.05 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
...
chrsitain 00 can you get it through sky ? or is it one of the knock off boxes ?
Comment 56, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.07 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
...
i jsut followed a link to ESPN the link said "wwatch west hams season" this is after searching for us vs them on tv, so i followed the link and guess what ESPN have on tonight ??? russian football league !!!!! i mean what is going on champions league ok on sky and normal tele but ESPN has free air i mean who watches Russain football league, apart from the russians but premier league should get priority. Even so i followed a link saying what west hams season to a russian league football show smilies/cry.gif
Comment 57, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.10 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
I apologise, I meant medication, not drugs!smilies/cheesy.gif

I dreamt that I was Ron Jeremy's biggest rival. Want to put a bet on that?!?

Seriously though, I have faith in the bloke. Come on Emile, show me the goals! It makes you wonder how he scored on his début. He built my expectation up to such a point, the fall really hurt.

Anyway, enough of the match winner......

Tonight, we will win, the West Spam fans will give Reo-Coker a bigger battering than MON, and they will go home ruing the loss of the ginger beast!

UTV!
Comment 58, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.11 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
MON did*
Comment 59, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.12 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
...
Chiefy,
I think it's only through those dodgy boxes. The bar on Gravelly Hill in Erdington shows all the Villa games (and Rococo I think?), not much use if you're not in Birmingham though...
Comment 60, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.14 am

JohnnyMcleod said:

0
...
to JPA

There's nothing I'd like more than for Milner to be an awesome player for us, so why is it that every time he gets the ball in an attacking situation I don't think anything will come of it. I think he's exactly the same player we had on loan for a year, he won't let you down but don't expect a shiver down your spine. Functional for 4 million I can live with, functional for 12 million is a different matter. Sadly i think that Milner at 23 is the finished product I don't see where the big improvement will come, you can't coach a change of pace, scoring ability, or a killer ball. Its seems to me that Milner gets away with being 'a strong box to box player' and this is enough to exclude him from any criticism for his continuing inability to be a match winner. Having seen what Solano did in that position before Milner came I think we've settled for an honest plodder, that's all.
Comment 61, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.15 am

Eoin Greene said:

eoin1981
...
This may sound bad - but I almost hope that Petrov and Milner dont make tonights game. I'd like to see Reo-Coker given a run in the Petrov role and i'd like to see the team changed around a bit - maybe Young/Albrighton on the right or Delph on the left, or Delph playing in front of Sidwell and Reo-Coker. Its not that I dont rate Petrov or Milner - its just i feel we need to try a few things to try and improve us.

I have 2 big hopes for tonight. First that Luke young starts at right back - which surely is a must? And secondly that we dont continue this nonsense of three full backs on the bench. When we need o change things around at least have Fonz and Albrighton on the bench - cant stand this policy of all these fullbacks on the bench.......Shorey, Young, Beye...even Gardner and Reo-coker can cover there so 5 potential full backs on the bench!!

And secondly, for the love of god mon - don't play a midfielder on the wing.

I think West Ham are a dangerous team - they have been playing well but not getting results, i think they could beat us tonight.
Comment 62, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.16 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
...
It is on in a pub in Dublin so im sorted.
Comment 63, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.16 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
...
Johnny Mcleod,

Did you not see Milner's last couple of games in an England shirt?! I think he ticked your checklist of all the things you'd like to see him do. If he's not doing it in a Villa shirt (which I, for one, think he does) then that's MON's fault.
Comment 64, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.18 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Ahhhhh, Solano.

Now he was a player! That's the type of player we are missing. A bit of foreign flair. Was gutted when he left.
Comment 65, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.18 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
...
Solano was some player when he first arrived at VP. Class act and exactly the type of player we lack right now.
Comment 66, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.19 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
...
You beat me to it Chris.
Comment 67, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.19 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
...
Solano, I remember him fondly.

'Solano, picks up the ball, cleverly sidesteps his marker, he's got options, McCann wants in the middle, De La Cruz has made the overlap...'

Is it any wonder he shot back off to Newcastle asap!!!!
Comment 68, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.23 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
...
SALIFOU anyone ? Foreign check, flair sssshhhh no one will no heskey gets away with it
Comment 69, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.24 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
...
johnnymcleod,
Milner is brilliant. I don't know how you can consider a 23 yr old player the finished article. For a player like Milner who does not rely on pace or any of the attributes you'd attribute as a benefit of being young he will just get better and better as he learns more and more. He is two footed, has an excellent football brain and a great engine. This guy could be as good as Scholes I believe if he was moved inside. Look at the earlier posts about Carlton Cole. Was he as good at 23 as he is now? No. Point proved.
Comment 70, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.25 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Sorry ak!smilies/wink.gif

Totally forgot about him. Loved his style of play. Felt cheated when he left to go back to Newcastle though!

Having watched Delph on a few occasions this season, I think he has the same style of play. He's a very exciting prospect in my eyes.
Comment 71, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.25 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
And secondly, for the love of god mon - don't play a midfielder on the wing.


You know this will happen. There aren't many things that MON can do that will anger me, some of his decisions I don't agree with and might frustrate me, but if he plays Heskey in midfield then I will be seriously angry.
Comment 72, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.26 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
...
viva _ Heksey is playing rush keeper i have seen it in my dream
Comment 73, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.30 am

jerry said:

churchill
...
THE MULE RETURNS TO FORM


Chiefy

Get back on the medication, pilgrim.

If I manage to get a decent stream tonight I shall be watching the Villa BUT BUT BUT keeping half an eye on the Liverpool game. Just so you won't be too surprised, if they lose tonight there will be chaos at Anfield and I might, and I stress MIGHT, feel inclined to comment on it.

Greg1981, I'm sorry mate but it's addictive.

The text for my offering will be "The Lord moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform." and I shall attempt to draw some comparisons between the antics at Anfield and the parlous state of football at Elland Road.

I can hear the cries now - "churchill, you go too far". Well, I shall try to quote the highest authorities in support of my thesis. I intend to draw on the immutable laws of Hubris and Nemesis from ancient Greece and, from Elizabethan England, the complex and profound philosophical and ethical issues that underpin the narrative in Shakespeare’s “The Tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark”.

And I might not.
Comment 74, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.43 am

jerry said:

churchill
...
but if he plays Heskey in midfield then I will be seriously angry.


viva, there was some talk on an earlier thread of Heskey at right back. If this happens I will be seriously hacked off.
Comment 75, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.49 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
...


viva, there was some talk on an earlier thread of heskey at right back



i had a dream heskey retired if that happens i will seriously be happy smilies/grin.gif
Comment 76, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.54 am

jerry said:

churchill
...
morning all


And good morning to you, limerick. Can you book me in for a haircut on Friday, mate?

Cheers
Comment 77, made on November 04, 2009 at 11.56 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
...
Ok class, four players have scored for Villa AND four other Premiership teams, can you name them?

You have twenty minutessmilies/smiley.gif
Comment 78, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.07 pm

Christian said:

Christian1983
...
Make that 5 players!!!!!!!!
Comment 79, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.09 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
viva, there was some talk on an earlier thread of Heskey at right back. If this happens I will be seriously hacked off.


Are you kidding me? Tell you what, why don't I just piss in my cup and call it a cuppa tea? And while I'm at it, I'll go take a dump in the bin of the bloke who sits next to me. It is a round bowl-shaped thing after all isn't it?

Christ almighty.
Comment 80, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.13 pm

Car Frost said:

frosty
...
Found this rather amusing..

The door to the Villa changing room opens just a crack, and our cameraman is able to take a quick snoop on the tactics for West-Ham away!

MON: Ok lads, this week I've decided that we're going to have a tactic.
*Heskey raises hand*
MON: Yes lad?
Emile: I was just wondering why I'm in the team at centre back?
MON: Well you've been whining to play haven't you?!
Emile: yes, but why at centre back?
MON: Well, I decided with you in the box nobody is going to score...
*Emile hangs head*
MON: Ok, on with the task in hand... our secret tactic for the game
*Warnock raises hand*
MON: Yes lad?
Warnock: Has it got anything to do with us hoofing the ball down the park to John and Gabriel?
MON: WHAT!!!?? How could you possibly have found that out? It's completely top secret!!
Warnock: Lucky guess?
*Reo-Coker raises hand*
MON: Yes lad?
Reo: Thanks for putting me in the team boss... what changed your mind?
MON: Well i decided we need a bit of fight in midfield! Now then... onto our next point - GOALS. Who is going to get me GOALS?
*Sidwell and Heskey raise hands*
MON: Any serious suggestions please?
Dunne: What about we play the ball to Ashley, and he falls over, and then we can get free-kicks and penalties in dangerous areas?
MON: Ok, good plan, now get outa here and start scoring! Go on, vamoose!
Comment 81, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.15 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
...
Ive a sneaky feeling Petrov will be ok for tonight. However, i would still go with 5 across the middle, which should swamp West Hams play.

I would go with the following, but expect Martin to go with something completely different that includes the mule.

Freidel

Luke Young
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

NRC
Petrov
Delphe

Gabby
Ashley

Carew

Martin will proberly go with this though......

Freidel
NRC
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

Heskey
Sidwell
Petrov
Young

Gabby
Carew


Anyways, either side should win. And thats what i expect, nothing but a win.

3-1 to us, followed by a lovely 4-0 against Bolton on Saturday. Yes, this is the week we begin to blossom!
Comment 82, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.16 pm

Andi said:

Chiefy
...
frosty--i like that but you now know by posting that you have let everyone into the secret tactics that are going to be used
Comment 83, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.19 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
...
3-1 to us, followed by a lovely 4-0 against Bolton on Saturday. Yes, this is the week we begin to blossom!

Wishful thinking maybe, but I think we have enough to win both games.
Comment 84, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.39 pm

Car Frost said:

frosty
...
Afternoon Chiefy - I know, got a feeling though it could be different tonight though if Gardner plays we may even keep it on the ground.

If Heskey scores that overhead it will send me to the grave with laughter, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Comment 85, made on November 04, 2009 at 12.55 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
...
With all this streaming and trying to get a dodgy pub to watch the games i wonder will the premier league clubs eventually just offer a season TV ticket for all premier league clubs so that you can watch vry game your team plays? I guess they would have to do it inconjunction with Sky but for those who live overseas it really would be great. Would also be added revenue to clubs as long as it doesn't effect attendances which if it was only on offer to those outside of England it really wouldn't.
Comment 86, made on November 04, 2009 at 1.02 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
ak_27

they have too eventually but i dont think they can get their heads around how to yet ... simply because people will always get streams for free ...

they'll figure out in the end that it isn't about the stream but about the value ads, the support, the superior service and all the extras we are going to get ...

they'll figure it out in the end then we'll all get it whenever we want .. but then they also have to make it acceptable to the TV companies, which will ultimately mean lower prices for them and people at home ...
Comment 87, made on November 04, 2009 at 1.23 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
...
Would it be that difficult to say do this with Sky and have it a bit like box office where if you pay for Villa season ticket, everygame that Villa play will be shown live on some channel on Sky? I really hate watching streams as there is nothing worse then it stopping for a sec here and there.

Comment 88, made on November 04, 2009 at 1.33 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
ak_27

villa streams is top notch. Its not a stream that has to buffer, its continuous play. Its worth the couple of quid yo have to pay. Plus you get PPV tv such as the David Haye fight! smilies/grin.gif
Comment 89, made on November 04, 2009 at 1.53 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
...
Chris i might sign up for that so.
Comment 90, made on November 04, 2009 at 1.59 pm

Nath said:

Nath
...
The game is not on sky or espn, so how can we just pop to the pub xD

Its on foreign TV, about 7 channels are covering it, so streams should be good tonight smilies/wink.gif
Comment 91, made on November 04, 2009 at 1.59 pm

DAVID VILLA said:

0
...
DAMIAN
Not the best of posts i have seen we should all be thinking of a win not Draw??? Villa are good enough to compete with anyone, it has been a long building exersise since M.O took charge but i have to say we have a squad now that many teams fear, John Carew got his first goal at everton now watch that man start puting them away for us he would have been top scorer last season if he was fit all season. People keep thinking sidwell aint good enough but have we lost a game when he has started? The answer is clear NO
He will get better and better and consistant in time
UP THE VILLA
Comment 92, made on November 04, 2009 at 2.03 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
Churchill said:

And good morning to you, limerick. Can you book me in for a haircut on Friday, mate?

No problem mate.smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 93, made on November 04, 2009 at 2.05 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Villa Streams did experience a few issues for the game on Saturday just gone. About 75 minutes in the feed just stopped for a while.

Other than that I like it. It's always been extremely reliable (prior to these issues) which is by far it's best point. The quality of the picture isn't great, but you can make do with it.
Comment 94, made on November 04, 2009 at 2.28 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
viva

It never happened to me, but it was on 2 channels, maybe it was the one I wasn't watching?

Comment 95, made on November 04, 2009 at 2.34 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Plus ak_27, you can watch 4/5 matches at the same time if you wish. 5 channels.
Comment 96, made on November 04, 2009 at 2.35 pm

colm tarpey said:

Harleystaggers
...
and you get free popcorn with every purchase!
Comment 97, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.05 pm

Villa_Man said:

0
...
I think the team tonite will be a variation of 451/433 with a back four of Warnock, Collins, Dunne and Beye with Petrov, Sidwell and NRC in the middle and Young, Gabby with Carew in the middle. I think Petrov will definatly play, he will want to because he's that kind of guy, and I cant see MON standing in his way. I would like MON to use Milners knock to try out the different formation and NRC will be well up for it, given his recent troubles and a trip to his old club. I fancy we might win this one, Carew is a confidence player and now he's off the mark he will be fired up and Gabbs is in form. We might even score more than 2! Im off down the bookies to stick a couple of quid on 3-0 Villa Carew 1st goal at a tasty 45-1. UTV!!
Comment 98, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.17 pm

Adey Stuttard said:

1874AVFC
...
Season ticket holders should have free access to the Villa Streams. We buy our ticket then get f'ed about by TV changing the fixture lists (ie, Man City on a Monday night). About time the TV bosses realised that some of us travel far to follow our clubs at home!
Comment 99, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.18 pm

VILLA DEL said:

0
...
Are there any free streams to access tonights game?
Comment 100, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.23 pm

Steve Badger said:

Comment 101, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.43 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
...
Bookmark that page lads.
Comment 102, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.45 pm

carl said:

carlpalmeravfc
...
will that veetle site be running it tonight,

that was a great link on saturday.

(at work now so cant check)
Comment 103, made on November 04, 2009 at 3.47 pm

VILLA DEL said:

0
...
We need to play 5 in midfield tonight to contain the energy of Parker and Collinson. Play a midfield three of Reo Coker, Sidwell, Delph. Gabby to play on the right, then during the game Young and Delph to swap wings to allow Gabby to support Carew.
It might be a blessing in disguise that we have a few injuries otherwise how else is Delph going to get a game.
Comment 104, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.05 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
...
They're all a lottery, you'll just have to try your luck.
Comment 105, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.08 pm

Sam Vicary said:

HolteEndersInDubai
...
Get the game over here in Dubai like all Prem games but i guess thats no good for most smilies/cheesy.gif

I got a feelin the team will be

Brad
Young Collins Dunne Wornock
Reo Petrov Sidwell Ash
Gabby Hesky

...although i would play

Brad
Young Collins Dunne Wornock
Albrighton Reo Petrov Ash
Comment 106, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.33 pm

Sam Vicary said:

HolteEndersInDubai
...
oops, meant to put the following...

Brad
Young Collins Dunne Wornock
Albrighton Reo Petrov Ash
Delph
Gabby
Comment 107, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.34 pm

boumavilla said:

0
...
gotta b honest its gona b a prediction of 2-2 2nite
wiv collins and gabby grabbin the goals

thinkin in to o'neill's mind he's probably thinkin

friedel

reo-coker
collins
dunne
warnock

gardner
sidwell
delph
a.young

aggy
heskey


but i'd like to see

friedel

beye
collins
dunne
warnock (bouma smilies/wink.gif)

albrighton
reo-coker
gardner
a.young

carew
aggy
Comment 108, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.37 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Albrighton should at the very least be on the bench tonight.
Comment 109, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.39 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
...
Im pretty sure Petrov will be ok for the game tonight and Reo Coker will replace Milner.

MON loves not to replace like for like and has had reo coker play right wing a few times.
Comment 110, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.45 pm

Sam Vicary said:

HolteEndersInDubai
...
Albrighton - Not just on the bench but play a part, show us if he can cut in the prem.

I'm very much a believer in MON however like most on hear his lack of substituyions do drive me up the wall.

If we could add a Steven Ireland type play maker to our 1st team i strongly believe we would be challenging for the top 4.

i know we wont prize him from city but thats the type of player we are crying out for, Barry could pick a pass but that Ireland is magic IMO.

If you watch the centre midfield in any class side, the 2 cetral players are constantly wanting the ball from...anyone from the GK to the strikers. When i watch our central midfield they seem scared to want it...ok Stan does on occasions but Sidwell definitely doesn't. Reo usually wants it but isn't doog enough with it. delph will do in a year or so but is a little inexperienced at this level.

This to me is the fundamental issue with Aston Villa football club and if we dont find a playmaker we will never make the top 4 and if we do it will be from blood, sweat and tears and not quality...blood sweat and tears wont get us past the early stage of the CL......IMO...all IMO!!
Comment 111, made on November 04, 2009 at 4.53 pm

benny said:

0
...

I agree with the shouts for a 5 man midfield with reo and delph coming in....something tells me it will be heskey coming in instead though, with maybe gabby moving to the right.
I think petrov will play.
For me....reo coker has to play today
Comment 112, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.11 pm

VDV said:

0
...
2-0 Carlton cole brace tonight and reo to get sent off.
Comment 113, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.16 pm

neil57 said:

0
...
AK27, I agree, maybe did not explain properly.
Drogba and co make it the best league in the world.
Comment 114, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.33 pm

John Flynn said:

Jaf
...
HoltEndersinDubai,

Good post, i agree we are ctying out for a playmaker and Ireland would be great. I cringe when i see Sidwell is playing, he is just a passenger and when he does try and do something he's miles off the pace..!

The reason why Chelsea score so many goals is because of Ballack and Lampard quick minds and feet. We need one player of that type to play with Stan and Coker in a five man midfield.

The best example of a team that suffers without a creative/driving force is Liverpool, they look like an emty shell witout Gerrard. So until we get a player that can deliver a killer pass (on a regular basis) MON has to play 4-5-1.!
Comment 115, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.38 pm

Villa_Man said:

0
...
official team

VILLA: Friedel; Beye, Dunne, Collins, Warnock; A Young, Sidwell, Petrov, Agbonlahor; Heskey, Carew. Guzan, L Young, Shorey, Albrighton, Delph, Reo-Coker, Delfouneso
Comment 116, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.50 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
Team news above ... is that 433?
Comment 117, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.56 pm

Stuart Kinane said:

mattyhislop
...
Team: Petrov is fit and plays. Looks like Gabby is replacing Milner on the right wing with Carew and Heskey up front.

Team:
Friedel, Beye, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Gabby, Petrov, Sidwell, A Young, Heskey, Carew.

Subs:
L Young, Shorey, Albrighton, Reo-coker, Delph, Delfouneso.
Comment 118, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.57 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
...
Good grief, NO LUKE YOUNG!!!!!!!!

Freidel

Beye
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

Heskey
Sidwell
Petrov
Young

Carew
Gabby


I give up lol
Comment 119, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.58 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
...
I hope that DJ Stu is the midfield maestro for us. If not that is a position that MoN needs to address in the summer, either by buying one or turning Delph into one. I would rather see that player come from within and we spend the money on a striking star to play alongside Gabby/JC.

Does anyone else agree that JC's history of changing clubs every so often makes you think he may be off on his travels soon? I would hate to see him go, he's been embraced by the Holte and has bags of talent.

I can see Wham playing well enough for the win tonight, that lad Diamanti (or whatever) is going to find his scoring range soon and could rattle in a few. Some of their lads appear to be fearless and will be relishing every chance to play. Let's hope that we get at least a point.
Comment 120, made on November 04, 2009 at 5.59 pm

Stuart Kinane said:

mattyhislop
...
Was actually looking forward to seeing NRC play against the Hammers, no doubt he will be fired up, even as a sub. Apparently they have a centre back making his debut tonight- Da Costa with Tomkins on the bench. Maybe Zola doesn't trust Tomkins in the air against the likes of Dunne, Collins, Carew and Heskey??

1-0 Villa, Collins to grab the winner!
Comment 121, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.02 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
...
Are these rumours of a fallout between Luke and the Gaffer true?

Honestly, im getting completely frustrated by Martins team selections.

We have to play Gabby out of position to accomadate a lame lump of lard!!!!!!


I give upsmilies/cry.gif
Comment 122, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.03 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
...
That team looks very attacking (for us). Good to see Beye given a chance, I like seeing him going forward, the other three are good enough to hold out most attacks. I've had a dream too, Beye and Gabby interchanging down the right, Gabby picking up the ball on the right of the penalty area, going past one man then firing into the roof of the net from an acute angle (he would have slid it under the goalie's diving body but Emile had fallen over just in front of him.
Comment 123, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.04 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
That's not 443, that's 442. Milner swapped with Gabby, simple as that.

How utterly disappointing.
Comment 124, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.05 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
...
Yes, 4-4-2.

No Luke eh?
I guessed as much.
That's poor imo.
Comment 125, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.07 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
...
Viva, I am playing last years version and packed us full of young English and sensational contintals/ South Americans. Liverpool went bust and I "swooped" for Gerard and Bale who is fantastic for next to nothing. I tried to sign Torres as well but couldn't afford the wages. EPL and Champs league winners twice in a row, I thank you. Nat is indeed brilliant - but then I gave him lots of games to come through!

Forrestor and Albriighton decent squad players
Comment 126, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.07 pm

Villa_Man said:

0
...
It can be 442 or 433 or 4411 with the players on the pitch. atleast wait until the game is finished before you start moaning.
Comment 127, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.08 pm

Stuart Kinane said:

mattyhislop
...
Viva, im not so sure. I was hoping for something different aswell- maybe Delph and NRC if Petrov was injured. However, West Ham are seriously shakey at the back at the mo and having four giants in our team could be a good tactic. Here's hoping Ashley's delivery is spot on tonight.
Comment 128, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.10 pm

Jonathan said:

Stennett
...
Very dissapointed in the team news, was hoping for albrighton and NRC insted we get sidwell smilies/sad.gif and a out of position player!
Comment 129, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.12 pm

keith said:

keithj
...
KEEP AWAY FROM ROMANIAN STREAM
full of viruses
Comment 130, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.12 pm

George Templeton said:

George Templeton
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Would rather have Reo-Coker in and Gabby up front with Carew, but it is a good lineup and West Ham's back line is rather small so maybe our big fellas will get a couple of goals. 1-2 Villa!
Comment 131, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.13 pm

VillaNick said:

0
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Its 4-4-2 with heskey at right back and Beye left wing, magic.
Comment 132, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.18 pm

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
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KEEP AWAY FROM ROMANIAN STREAM
full of viruses


Cheers Keithj, I'll put my trunks away
Comment 133, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.20 pm

adam cave said:

0
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does any1 know any gud streams to watch the game on?
Comment 134, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.24 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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adam cave
you'll get a link or two around kick off
Comment 135, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.28 pm

adam cave said:

0
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thanx m8, utv!
Comment 136, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.30 pm

antony strafford said:

straff24
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i have paid for the villa link ,,ive got the links but when i press them nothink happens any body help cheers..UTV VILLA 2-0
Comment 137, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.33 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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So, we're looking at 3 possible formations then.

A) Standard 4-4-2 - Gabby comes in on the right of midfield, Heskey partners Carew up front

B) 4-3-3 - Gabby, Heskey and Carew up front. I can't see this happening because it means Young practically playing as a central midfielder. A recipe for disaster.

C) 4-2-3-1 - Heskey plays lone role up front, Carew drops back to form an attacking midfield with Young and Gabby

I've got my money firmely on A, though we may possibly see a bit of a mix and match with C also, perhaps.
Comment 138, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.34 pm

Stock said:

0
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not the team i would've picked, but the best way to plaster over our creativity cracks in midfield is to miss it out completely and hoof it up to the big boys. we need to sign delap to get all bases covered smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 139, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.35 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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vivavilla said:
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That's not 443, that's 442. Milner swapped with Gabby, simple as that.

How utterly disappointing.


What the hell is going on ?

This looks like the kind of line up Benitez would put out

Gabby, Carew, Heskey ? What the hell, why not throw the Fonz on as well.

If we're overun in midfield tonight I'm going to be MAD
Comment 140, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.35 pm

VillaPete said:

0
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Can't believe Luke is not playing. Is he not one of the best natural RIGHT backs in Europe? By that I mean Luke is superb at going forward, it's his instinct to attack and create, yet he defends like a tiger. What am I missing!!!!!
Comment 141, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.36 pm

adam cave said:

0
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how is sidwell still in the team he? is awful, he never brings anything to the game, bout time martin swallowed his pride and started coker!
Comment 142, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.39 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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straff24
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i have paid for the villa link ,,ive got the links but when i press them nothink happens any body help cheers..UTV VILLA 2-0


have you downloaded the player?
Comment 143, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.39 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Had a feeling that NRC would not be picked. MON is spiteful and that has to be the only reason why Luke Young hasn't been picked also. Tonight tells me that Cullar is now our first choice RB for the whole season bar inj. Thats a joke if you ask me but not unexpected from MON.
Comment 144, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.40 pm

rob hathaway said:

rob h
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evening guys

perhaps we should reserve judgement on mons team until at least half time?
Comment 145, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.40 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Anyone got a problem with Villastreams? I'm listening to channel 4 and sound is only coming out of the right speaker.
Comment 146, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.40 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Scratch that, channel 2 working fine. Albeit with foreign commentary.
Comment 147, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.41 pm

macstar said:

0
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any free links then guys?
Comment 148, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.42 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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i think sidwell is captain ...
Comment 149, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.42 pm

dominic elmer said:

just-dom
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http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch5.html

good stream so far and english commentary.
Comment 150, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.42 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Has Luke been playing for the reserves recently?
Comment 151, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.43 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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sorry about that .. no he isn't, it's petrov
Comment 152, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.44 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Nervy opening minute
Comment 153, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.47 pm

beano123 said:

0
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http://www.vexcast.com/play.action?channel_id=107

good quality not sure bout commentary
Comment 154, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.47 pm

Eoin Greene said:

eoin1981
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That team is the final straw, a manager who learns nothing from his mistakes
Comment 155, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.48 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
What an awful shot from Gabby
Comment 156, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.49 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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That team is the final straw, a manager who learns nothing from his mistakes


Heskey on the right wing ?
Hardly your standard flying winger is he.
Comment 157, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.49 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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....Heskey's in midfield, isn't he?
Comment 158, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.50 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Looks like 442 with Heskey on the left, Young on the right.

f**k sake.
Comment 159, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.51 pm

Ian Stockton said:

Stocky
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any links fellas??
Comment 160, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.51 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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If we do win tonight it will be in spite of the team selection not because of it. smilies/angry.gif
Comment 161, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.52 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Say what you will about Heskey - he is a clever player. He knows about creating space.
Comment 162, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.53 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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What a brilliant run from Warnock.
Comment 163, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.53 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Cracking swinging corner from Young. Collins just couldn't quite get to it.
Comment 164, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.54 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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If the game was settled on number of throw ons if theres a draw, we'd be in pole position.
Comment 165, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.55 pm

Andy Pepper said:

Comment 166, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.56 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Good stuff from Villa in the opening 10 minutes. Since that flustered start we've looked in control. Created a couple of half chances.
Comment 167, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.56 pm

Gubbel said:

0
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try one of the links of myp2p.eu
Eurosoccer has great quality but it's Chinese commentary. try the tvants link.
until i find a quality stream in english, i stick with this one.
Comment 168, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.56 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Has anyone actually seen Ashley Young getting marked by two men or have him getting closed down by two men more than any other player normally would?

I've just seen him with the ball twice in the first 10 minutes and it hasn't happened ...
Comment 169, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.56 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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ak grow up!!!

When did you see Luke Young to see how fit he is? Mentally as well as physically. YOu know nothing, MON knows his players and his team.
Comment 170, made on November 04, 2009 at 6.57 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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damian, young is playing in the center, with gabby on the right, and heskey on the left... wtf?

4-5-1?
Comment 171, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.00 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I've noticed whenever West Ham have the ball in or near our half, Gabby will drop back leaving Carew as the lone forward. So far anyway.

Seems it should be the other way around?
Comment 172, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.01 pm

dominic elmer said:

just-dom
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http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch5.html in english too.

silly foul by ashley!
Comment 173, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.04 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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damian, young is playing in the center, with gabby on the right, and heskey on the left... wtf?


They're all switching round at the moment. Seems a bit pointless to me.
Comment 174, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.05 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Blimey, nice hit from Stan!
Comment 175, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.05 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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WHAT A SHOT!!!
Comment 176, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.05 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Awwwww, if it weren't for that deflection that would've gone in!
Comment 177, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.06 pm

craig said:

0
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anyone got any free streaming links?
Comment 178, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.06 pm

dominic elmer said:

just-dom
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great volley by petrov!
Comment 179, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.06 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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WH are very poor defending crosses, hope there
Comment 180, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.06 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Another nice shot, Gabby this time.

I certainly can't remember the last time we forced this many saves from a keeper in the first 20 mins.
Comment 181, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.08 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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Gabby's pace is causing Upson some problems.
Comment 182, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.08 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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wasn't that handball?
Comment 183, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.10 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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keefvilla, yes, but it's Steve Bennett - Villa hater
Comment 184, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.11 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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fastbackace

gabby is up front with carew. young is on the right, heskey on the left
Comment 185, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.11 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Villa looking very dangerous at the moment. Dare I say it, but Young is actually playing quite well.
Comment 186, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.12 pm

Ohio Villain said:

Comment 187, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.13 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Who greased up Collins' boots? He's fallen over about 3 times now.
Comment 188, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.14 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Hello... Cole hurt?
Comment 189, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.15 pm

Jonathan said:

Stennett
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that was in the clause when west ham sold him to us.
Comment 190, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.15 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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This game should be ours for the taking now ...
Comment 191, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.16 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Cole off... unfortunate for the lad but certainly helps us.

I hope smilies/cry.gif
Comment 192, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.17 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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dang... well cole is off, and that makes 2 subs already...

hopefully there match is already over.
Comment 193, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.17 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Thi Villa stream is f**king w**k!
How do I get english co???
Comment 194, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.18 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Christ, Sidwell has been done by such basic trickery several times in this match now and it's beginning to piss me off.
Comment 195, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.18 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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i think playing on the right would be good for gabby, maybe he'll get a trick or 2 to beat players... make him a better striker.
Comment 196, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.19 pm

Dan Malins said:

HoofHearted
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Is it just me or was iraq goals working well for the first 20mins, and shite after?
Comment 197, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.20 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Haha, did anyone watching Villa Streams here that? "WELL DAN GEEEZAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" smilies/grin.gif
Comment 198, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.20 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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Villa streams is pretty good, worth 1.50 for the one game, but I paid 25 for the year, at least I wont miss another game. Iraq goals probably gone crap as more and more people find it. smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 199, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.22 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Don't know whether it's the mic placement, but the Villa fans are very loud. Great to hear.
Comment 200, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.23 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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C'mon Petrov, lets have some more of those volleys, miss shots like that since hitzelsperger left.....
Comment 201, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.23 pm

Pete Hutton said:

0
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any one got a link that works for streaming

cheers
Comment 202, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.24 pm

Sean said:

sdtw84
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Hoofhearted - Iraqgoals Channel 5 was working well for me too for about 20mins+ then it just went...I would have actually preferred it not to have worked at all, but now its my mission to get it back on!!!
Were looking good, the front 4 are very fluid, with Ash going to the right and Heskey on the left, then Gabby on the right Ash on the left, and Petrov is playing very well!
Comment 203, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.24 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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Gabby is so much better than Carew as our target man.

Carew often fouls, becomes offside and doesn't have the pace to beat anyone!
Comment 204, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.25 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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Something about watching a Villa game with German commentary. S'pose it makes a change from Andy Gray.......
Comment 205, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.25 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Young is getting double teamed frequently now.
Comment 206, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.26 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Villa Stream is w**k!! Paid my 1.50 and its not english!
Comment 207, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.26 pm

Dan Malins said:

HoofHearted
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sdtw84 -
Yeah we were playing well, thats why i want to keep watching it!
UTV.
Comment 208, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.27 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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Well done Ash, nice free kick won!
Comment 209, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.27 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Now THAT'S what Young hasn't been doing lately. Getting the ball wide, and floating into the middle into great shooting position.
Comment 210, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.28 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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............ that was awful.......
Comment 211, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.28 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Howler of a free kick from Warnock smilies/sad.gif

I can't stay mad at him though.
Comment 212, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.29 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Woz
do you need commentary?
Comment 213, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.30 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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good god mon bring on albrighton!
Comment 214, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.30 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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Carew should have squared that ball - heskey had a tap in
Comment 215, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.31 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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I don't care if its german, I'm watching the game!!!
Comment 216, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.31 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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All of the ref's decisions are going our way at the moment. That does make you worry about the possibility of him wrongfuly compesating for it later though...
Comment 217, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.31 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Ah for f**k sake. You've got to be kidding me.

SO angry.
Comment 218, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.32 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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Oh my god!!!! how the feck can that be a penalty!!!
Comment 219, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.33 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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1 Offside
2 Beye touched it

Bennett again
Comment 220, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.33 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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We could have done with little brad then smilies/wink.gif
Comment 221, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.33 pm

pete said:

no10
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cant get the villa stream to work.ive paid and downloaded software any ideas
Comment 222, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.33 pm

swissvilla said:

0
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evildaz....please the link...
Comment 223, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.33 pm

david said:

r0bb0
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Just following it on here and text commentary. Both sites give the impression Villa are playing well and creting lots of chances. The other one says we should have had a penalty. That how it seems to those who can see it?
Comment 224, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.34 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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no10 try this link.

http://iraqgoals.net/ch5.html
Comment 225, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.34 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I'm so goddamn annoyed right now. Can't remeber the last time I've been this angry at half time. Was going to post some very positive thoughts about how well we'd played in that first half. Can't be fecking bothered now.
Comment 226, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.35 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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What a load of bollocks, he was offside when the ball was played, then Beye got the ball, but still it was a penalty. That is truly shocking. 1-0 to the cockney wide boys.
Comment 227, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.35 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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We have been all over them just can't f**king finish - same old story - Come on you Villa
Comment 228, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.35 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
...
are u f**king kidding me????

we are losing to west ham???

dfakjgijadfgjkadfgjhnadfg

are all u guys who said last weeks tie to everton ok going to defend this game too???

f**king rediculas
Comment 229, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.35 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Damian,
When u suggest a service, and I pay 1:50 for it yes I do.
When I could get it free elsewhere. I recomended it to a work mate.
How stupid will I look!
Good work. Im sure the 'post match' review will make it all worth while!!!
Comment 230, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.37 pm

pete said:

no10
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ak cheers
Comment 231, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.37 pm

Derek Gordon said:

[dg]
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Not what I had in mind, Collins.
Comment 232, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.38 pm

Ammar said:

mon 4-5-1
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Joke of a half time performance. 1-0 down and the best srtiker not even playing.Lets see if we can turn it around in the next 45 minutes. Who were the guys who said nothing to worry about we'll take the points and they knew what there talking about...
Comment 233, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.38 pm

tommye83 said:

0
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not creating enough
Comment 234, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.38 pm

dominic elmer said:

just-dom
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what a liberty! never a penalty. steve bennett is a top class tosser!
Comment 235, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.38 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
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Wonderful team selection Martinsmilies/cry.gif

Champions league will require a new manager me begins to think, cos this one is bonkerssmilies/wink.gif
Comment 236, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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Only 1 player in our squad would have given away that penalty - beye!

We bossed the game so far - best chance was Carew should have passed to Heskey!

f**ks sake!
Comment 237, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I feel like I've been kickied in the bollocks by the football gods. We moan for months that Villa play dull, unnattractive football, crying out for the day we being to play positively and creatively.

That day comes and this is how we're repayed.
Comment 238, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Looked offside to me. Probably was a pen.

West Ham are poor. We should be capable of scoring againest them. But they have been very comfortable defending crosses. Young looks a little better on the RW.
Comment 239, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

Craig Elliot said:

Craigy1874
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i cant help but think we have gone full circle. we are now solid defensively but cant score in a barrell of fannies
Comment 240, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

Irons said:

0
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Come on you irons!!!
Comment 241, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

Mathew Dryhurst said:

madarab
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I don't think we played that badly. It was all us, how many corners? Poor delivery for most of them but I felt like we were in total control.

Then that. Clearly not a penalty. MON looked possessed. Let's see what happens second half - West Ham are really not up to much.
Comment 242, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.39 pm

Sean said:

sdtw84
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fastbackace - thats a bit early to criticise...weve played well in the first half, very well, then give a penalty away, which is bad...but it was a terrible decision and totally against the run of play...dont see how you can have a strong opinion at half time in a game it doesnt seem you have been able to watch?! correct me if I am wrong...UTV
Comment 243, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.40 pm

david said:

r0bb0
...
From what I can see from two text streams Villa have played well and created lots of chances, could have had a penalty and shouldn't have had one given against us.
If that's the case wouldn't it be illogical to be critical of the team?
Comment 244, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.41 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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swissvilla - I am watching it via villastreams.com, its german commentary, but it don't matter, its pretty smooth with no breaks and stutters etc. Can't find a way to mute it yet though, if I could I would put radio commentry on from 5live or wm or something smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 245, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.41 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Should it not be renamed Arsenal Streas?
Comment 246, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.41 pm

david said:

r0bb0
...
Wouldn't such a reaction be f**cking rediculas?
Comment 247, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.41 pm

rob hathaway said:

rob h
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guys give me some help will ya.

got this villa streams thing
opened the player
it gave me 5 channels to choose from and i ended up with the arse game. w t f do i have to do to get the villa game?

Comment 248, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.42 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
I wouldn't mind but Beye had been playing crap anyway. Totally lacking confidence.
Comment 249, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.42 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
rob h
you need channel 1 or 4
last time i used it which was a while ago you could login and pick up links to use wiht VLC ... or they have i think an application you can download

Woz
what did you expect for £1.50, honestly? if you are not happy with it, you´ve lost £1.50 and you dont need to use it again but you get to watch the game with the best quality you are going to get online and you complain because you dont have a commentator telling you which aston villa player has the ball ...
Comment 250, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.42 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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Villa were the better team, West Ham got lucky, they should have got offside, they didn't, Beye got the ball, and they were awarded a penalty. unfortunately we have the misfortune of playing with both a blind linesman and referee. As if one wasn't bad enough!!!
Comment 251, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.42 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
rob - try channel 2, that's what I'm watching.
Comment 252, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.43 pm

Andy Pepper said:

villapep
...
i'm betting we go down to 10 men b4 the final whistle with that tosser as a ref!!!
Comment 253, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.43 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
...
Anyone think our luck has caught up with us??
Comment 254, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.44 pm

rob hathaway said:

rob h
...
damian channle 1 is just a green screen is yours?
viva - does your channle say canal in the corner/

cheers
Comment 255, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.45 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
you complain because you dont have a commentator telling you which aston villa player has the ball ...


Actually you do. You just don't know what he's doing with it smilies/wink.gif
Comment 256, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.45 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Rob H, keep going and youll find the game with non english,think channel 4 or 5 , better stay with P2P. Rip off!
Damian must have shares!
Comment 257, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.45 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
rob - yes. Channel 1 has a Champions League game on, don't listen to Damian he's talking crap smilies/tongue.gif
Comment 258, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.46 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
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Cant get a stream for some silly PC reason, so never saw the pen. But if its has bad as you boys make out, then it should put a little more fire in our bellies.

Come on Villa!!!
Comment 259, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.46 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
vivavilla - Channel 2 and 4 are showing the same channel, but channel 4 is better video quality, and channel 2 better sound quality. As it's in German anyway, go to channel 4, unless you want good quality cockney wide boys shouting stuff about pearly kings.
Comment 260, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.46 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
EvilDaz

I'm listening with headphones on and all I can hear on Channel 4 is a crackling sound in my left ear. It was doing my head in so I'm having to settle for a slightly poorer picture.
Comment 261, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.48 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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rob h

You need to download the addons X264 etc - the site has links
Comment 262, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.49 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Reo-Coker on for Heskey
Comment 263, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.50 pm

rob hathaway said:

rob h
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viva = legend


thanks mate
Comment 264, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.50 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Damian,
Where I went wrong is I listened to your advice!
I can recongnise the players as I see them every other week. Because u are far far away I thought I would listen to you. But its normally better that P2P but not tonight!
Now I have used your suggestions before and its been a lot better than this!
Just an observation so dont spit the dummy!!
UTV!
x
Comment 265, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.51 pm

deano-avfc said:

0
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Damo, just signed up to villastreams, using winamp, i need the villa match channel info to copy into the file thing
Comment 266, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.51 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
vivavilla - Really? sound is fine for me, though a little bass heavy with little treble. :s
Comment 267, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.51 pm

Pete Hutton said:

0
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damian wat is this £1.50 thing where can i go to view it?
Comment 268, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.52 pm

david said:

r0bb0
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viva "reo for Heskey" is that what you want or what's happening?
Comment 269, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.52 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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sdtw84 -
i have been watching the game. and we arent playing bad. but its simple. if we want top 5 football... we have to win. and beat teams like wolves...everton with less strength... and a bottom of the table west ham. we shouldnt be losing. with all the possession and time in their box... it should be 2-1 and us winning.

like ive been saying... we need that arshavin type player.
Comment 270, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.52 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
rob h
download VLC ... then open a network address
that was how i used to use it .. worked everytime

vivavilla - it says channel 1 and 4 on the homepage ... i was only going by that

woz
if you used it before on my advice and you are using it again, then the only one to blame is yourself
Comment 271, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.52 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Unless Reo-Coker is playing wide this must mean 4-5-1?
Comment 272, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.53 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Just seen that pen again. No way was it a pen.
Comment 273, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.53 pm

Matthew Clark said:

0
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wtf??????????????
Comment 274, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.53 pm

Derek Gordon said:

[dg]
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GO GET 'EM NIGE!!! GO ON SON!
Comment 275, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.53 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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PENALTY VILLA!
Comment 276, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.53 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Oh for FU*K SAKE
Comment 277, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.54 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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Penalty - f**k it - take Young f**king off - Get Albrighton on
Comment 278, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.54 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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You are joking!!! Penalty saved!!!!!, ffs, this is not going to be our night!.....
Comment 279, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.54 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
This is fast turning into one of the most frustrating Villa games I've seen.
Comment 280, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.55 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
I will say this only once. I know not how Villa Streams works ... only that if you have signed up, you can login and get the links or that you can download an application although by the sounds of things that doesn´t always work ...

My advice would be to download VLC, get the link from logging in and run the link by opening a network stream and pasting the link.

I also, if this was me, wouldn´t wait until five minutes before the game in but do it an hour before the game ... now I know not all can do that so I´m not saying anyone is in the wrong, but that is all I have on the subject of Villa Stream smilies/wink.gif
Comment 281, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.56 pm

Matthew Clark said:

0
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YE£SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Comment 282, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.56 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
OH MY GOD

WHAT A GOAL
Comment 283, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.56 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
WHAT A F'ING GOAL !!!!!! you beauty Ashley!!!!
Comment 284, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.57 pm

dan9999999 said:

0
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BOOMSHANKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nicley done Mr Young, now put em to the sword
Comment 285, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.57 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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Why do it the hard way?
Comment 286, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.57 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Ash, you're forgiven for missing that pen, for that was an absolute beauty!

Now kick on and get us those 3 effing points we deserve!
Comment 287, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.58 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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Great goal Ash - Please ignore my last post
Comment 288, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.58 pm

dominic elmer said:

just-dom
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great goal webcam!
Comment 289, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.58 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
I'm not sure if he meant that as a shot or a cross though. i tell you what, these germans don't get very excited about anything.
Comment 290, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.58 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Damian!
Love ya!!
Good point, well made!
utv]xxxxxx
p.s. Just a bit disappointed tonight with coverage, thats all!
Comment 291, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.59 pm

Matthew Smith said:

Jeddy
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Massive goal, GET IN THERE ASH!
Comment 292, made on November 04, 2009 at 7.59 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Keep the commentary going boys 'n' girls. My stream on Iraqi goals has conked out. Prob becos I'm on Mac/Safari.

1-1? Come on you Villa!!!!!!!!!
Comment 293, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.00 pm

Dan Malins said:

HoofHearted
...
afvcbob said:
...
Penalty - f**k it - take Young f**king off - Get Albrighton on

You are no villa fan. have faith.
Comment 294, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.00 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Tell you what, Gabby's not that bad at playing the long ball every so often is he?
Comment 295, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.01 pm

Pete Hutton said:

0
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damian do you have a link to go to to down load this vlc?
thanks
Comment 296, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.01 pm

cavan said:

villafan144
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btw that was a cross not a shot, i'l take it tho, come on villa weve beeen by far the better team
Comment 297, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.02 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
I reckon that goal by Ash is goal of the mont material
Comment 298, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.02 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Home crowd are REALLY getting on Reo's back. Similar to what we gave Barry.
Comment 299, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.02 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I'm not so sure, I reckon he meant it!
Comment 300, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.03 pm

macstar said:

0
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iraq goals link gone down....help!!
Comment 301, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.04 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Petrov really loves a nice shot on the edge of the area doesn't he?
Comment 302, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.04 pm

Damian said:

Comment 303, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.04 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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this second half is the villa i wanna see every game
Comment 304, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.04 pm

david said:

r0bb0
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Villa 55% posession, 8 shots on target (to their 3) 12 corners to their 0. Can't criticise them so far!
Comment 305, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.06 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Dunne lucky there, he practically had his arm up a WH shirt.
Comment 306, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.06 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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Hoofhearted

Young misses a penalty on a night we should be tonking the hammers to shit - its called being fustrated - unless you are not f**king human
This does not mean I am less a Villa fan than you
Comment 307, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.07 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Damian

What was that link for? Is there a live stream anywhere that works? Iraqi Goals down since 25 minutes of 1st half.
Comment 308, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.07 pm

Mathew Dryhurst said:

madarab
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Villa will win this. Some people's heads drop too easily..
Comment 309, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.07 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
The one element of Warnock's game that I don't like is his tendency to hit and hope, particularly when clearing the ball. Safety first Stephen!
Comment 310, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.08 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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sidwell almost cost us an own goal!!! get his ass off.
Comment 311, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.10 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
Warnkock hard done by for that free kick then I thought.
Comment 312, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.10 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
West Ham just starting to take control of the game now, we must weather this period.
Comment 313, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.10 pm

Andy Pepper said:

villapep
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you can see them sneeking 1 soon
Comment 314, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.11 pm

Chris Parry said:

fox-in-the-box
...

If hating Sidwell is wrong.....

I don't wanna be right!
Comment 315, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.12 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Warnkock hard done by for that free kick then I thought.


Yes. You just get the feeling that because Bennett is giving most of the 50/50's Villa's way, correctly, the crowd are getting on his back so he gives the odd decision in favour of West Ham, incorrectly.
Comment 316, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.12 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
...
you can see them sneeking 1 soon


Which team ?
Comment 317, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.12 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
looks like West Ham are coming into a spell.
Comment 318, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.12 pm

Woz_UK said:

0
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Petrov to miss bolton game now!!
Comment 319, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.13 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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Get Sidwell off

What's this 'are you trying to spam' Bull ?
Comment 320, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.13 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Villa have certainly quitened down since the goal. It's amazing how momentum changes in a football match sometimes.
Comment 321, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.14 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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Its a good job goals aren't 40 feet high, we'd be losing by now.....
Comment 322, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.15 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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We need a Double D

Get Delph & Delfonzo on
Comment 323, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.16 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Not sure why Carew tried a backheel then.

Some sloppy passing in defence too, can't be doing that.
Comment 324, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.17 pm

cavan said:

villafan144
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the refs not gunner give 3 penos in a match, even if that was def hand ball
Comment 325, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.18 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
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I think were about ripe for a sub, we need some fresh legs and some fresh impetus.
Comment 326, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.18 pm

Chris Parry said:

fox-in-the-box
...

Pancho,

you're asking a bit much there....... 3 subs in one game!
Comment 327, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.18 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Starting to get nervous now. It's approaching the time where a point would be a good result, when really we should have been pushing on for 3.
Comment 328, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.19 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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we have to win this game.
Comment 329, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.20 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
fox-in-the-box said:
...

Pancho,

you're asking a bit much there....... 3 subs in one game!



We need oomph - MON, put some oomph on
Comment 330, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.20 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
Too many long balls now, always ending up with cockney possesion. Not liking it.
Comment 331, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.21 pm

Pete Hutton said:

0
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thanks damian sorry to be a pain but where do i get the links once i have downloaded vlc
Comment 332, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.21 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Oomph? Isn't that the sound Emile makes when he goes down?
Comment 333, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.21 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Two players tried to full on take Reo out then.
Comment 334, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.21 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
Pete

Login at villastreams.com and you will then be taken to a page where you out in your user name and password and it generates the links for you

you want channel 4 link
Comment 335, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.22 pm

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
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any working streams at all????
Comment 336, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.22 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Caught napping again!

What's going on? In the space of about 5 minutes we went from exciting Villa to same old Villa.
Comment 337, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.23 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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C'mon Villa - sneak it
Comment 338, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.23 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
We can't keep possesion at moment, making me nervous. We can't complete a pass either.
Comment 339, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.23 pm

Chris Parry said:

fox-in-the-box
...

Neck ache time for the midfield again!!!!!!!!
Comment 340, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.23 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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We deserve to be winning this game - but it could go anyway now
The worry is there nothing on the bench that could change it for us - this must be a priority in January or there will be more games like this where we surrender 2 points to an inferior team
Comment 341, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.24 pm

deano-avfc said:

0
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We can't pass, its embarrassing at times, no midfield
Comment 342, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.25 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
This spell of the cockneys is lasting a lot longer than I hoped. We need to make a change, or at least get some cohesion.
Comment 343, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.25 pm

Eoin Greene said:

eoin1981
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where is the bloody ambition? Do we want forth or not? Crying out for a few subs
Comment 344, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.25 pm

Andy Pepper said:

villapep
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not liking how many shots this hines lad is getting in
Comment 345, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.25 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Very harsh on Reo-Coker, he won that ball fair.
Comment 346, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.25 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
fastbackace said:
...
we have to win this game.


You're right - we need that 4th place
Comment 347, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.26 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Absolutely all West Ham at the moment. I don't think this is a spell of possession at all, I just think they're in complete control.
Comment 348, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.27 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Was that not a red card for that foul on Warnock? From behind, absolutely no intention of getting the ball, stopping him on a run...
Comment 349, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.29 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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pancho-
we dont need the 4th place spot...
we need to mentally beat a underachieving team.
we need to know that we can do it.
Comment 350, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.29 pm

Jinksy said:

Jinksy
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Reo Coker is a f**king waste of skin.....
Comment 351, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
...
Bennett again!
Comment 352, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Rick Lawrence said:

mooseman
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I'm watching the game via www.free-football.tv. It costs £10 a year to join up but there's always a great selection of games. My current stream is in Chinese! YoU should hear the way they pronounce Agbonlahor! Capello is at the game. I don't think Gabby or Ash are doing their chances any favours.
Comment 353, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Oh f**king hell. Another right back sent off.

Well MON, you're left with no choice but to play Luke now are you?
Comment 354, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Chris Parry said:

fox-in-the-box
...

Sidwell is such a fookin passenger, he brings nothing at all to the team.

Change it MON, we aint getting a kick!!
Comment 355, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
Oh my God

This is making me ill
Comment 356, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
And here he comes!
Comment 357, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Daren Cutland said:

EvilDaz
...
nice one Beye, you clown.
Comment 358, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Dan Malins said:

HoofHearted
...
All this game has confirmed is that Steve Bennet is a huge bellend.
Comment 359, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

afvcbob said:

0
...
Does it tell you something about our midfield , we take Heskey off for Coker and the hammers are running through us - what the f**k is going on
Comment 360, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.30 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Young on for Carew.

Well, if we weren't playing for a point before, we certainly are now.
Comment 361, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.31 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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Beye couldnt have had a worst game...Don't expect him starting anytime soon...

Welcome back Luke Young (Thank God)
Comment 362, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.31 pm

Andy Pepper said:

villapep
...
REFER TO COMMENT 253!!!!
Comment 363, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.32 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Beye couldnt have had a worst game...Don't expect him starting anytime soon...


Agreed. Absolute nightmare performance.

Good call villapep.
Comment 364, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.33 pm

Alex Glynn said:

glynnder
...
ha, yeah. How deserved was the red then? I agree with comment 362. x
Comment 365, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.34 pm

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
...
We looked better with Heskey in midfield
Comment 366, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.34 pm

Ian Stockton said:

Stocky
...
what was the red for? missed it
Comment 367, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.35 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
This is just so dissappointing
Comment 368, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.35 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Corner... last chance for Villa maybe.
Comment 369, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.35 pm

Alex Glynn said:

glynnder
...
And that's saying something...
Comment 370, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.35 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
...
We played a lot better football in the first half?

Was Emile injured? Dont get why he changed it
Comment 371, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.35 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Another corner... last chance for Villa maybe smilies/wink.gif
Comment 372, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.36 pm

Andy Pepper said:

villapep
...
WHAT IS IT WITH US AND NOT BEING ABLE TO 4TH IN THE LEAGUE!!!
Comment 373, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.36 pm

PONGO said:

0
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carew not good enougth
Comment 374, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.36 pm

erik said:

0
...
Headologist that's depressing glad I couldn't find a link...sounds like it was all down hill after young's goal. Marin needs to make some changes just to spark some life into the team...other than playing heskey on the wing.
Comment 375, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.36 pm

King VOGRA said:

0
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Beye is utter garabage, another shit MON signing
Comment 376, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.36 pm

Sam Kennedy said:

kennedy1985
...
Why are we hanging on for a point against a team in 19th place? Utter crap in my opinion!
Comment 377, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.36 pm

Chris Parry said:

fox-in-the-box
...

Just a lack of real quality that only MON has the power to remedy.......

Just don't think he knows it?
Comment 378, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.37 pm

Alex Glynn said:

glynnder
...
f**king embarrasing.
Comment 379, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.37 pm

Sam Kennedy said:

kennedy1985
...
typical shite!!!
Comment 380, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.38 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
I'm an ill man
Comment 381, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.38 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
I do not believe it.

I do not f**king believe it.
Comment 382, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.38 pm

Sam Kennedy said:

kennedy1985
...
its been along time coming!
Comment 383, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.38 pm

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
...
this is what pisses villa fans off
Comment 384, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.39 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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this is what u get when u play a piece of shit on the left. and you coming thinking a tie is good enough.

mon take note u f**king tard.
Comment 385, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.39 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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Totally pissed off with 2nd half performance - just not good enough from us and now they have just got the winner - f**k it
Comment 386, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.39 pm

Alex Glynn said:

glynnder
...
" Beye looks like one of those players that O'Neill has bought and almost instantly regretted it.

I actually quite like him"

I think I'm going to agree with MON after this match.
Comment 387, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.39 pm

King VOGRA said:

0
...
why's everybody suprised?? we are the kings of conceding goals in the last minute or injury time, my mate said at least you've got a draw, i just turned round and said, they'll score in injury time, it's obvious....wooooooooosh
Comment 388, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.40 pm

erik said:

0
...
Wow, why do we always conceed goals in the last 5 minutes
Comment 389, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.40 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
...
100 million quid for oniel to deliver us dross. Dont bet on Randy giving any more, cos i wouldent.

Comment 390, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.40 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
...
It was coming, West Ham spanked us in the second half.

Why the f**k did MON change things? He will always be tactically inept - no one can defend that!
Comment 391, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.41 pm

Alex Glynn said:

glynnder
...
for f**k's sake.
The WORST part is that they deserved to win.
Comment 392, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.41 pm

Sam Kennedy said:

kennedy1985
...
Well i might be dissapointed with the result but we havent played well for a while now and if we dont start scoring the goals we are gonna end up finishing 8th or 9th!
Comment 393, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.41 pm

dan9999999 said:

0
...
same old villa
Comment 394, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.41 pm

neil57 said:

0
...
Bastard Bennett
We have missed 2 pens which cost games
Unbelievable
Very disappointing
Taglor here we come
We should have won it way earlier
Green MOM Boo Hoo
Comment 395, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.41 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
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f**king shit defending. True to form we f**k it all up when have the chance to fo top 4. Like f**king clockwork.
Comment 396, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.41 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
...
what kind of excuses for this pile of shit then JPA,CHIEFY,ROB, can`t fckin wait
Comment 397, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.42 pm

Ian Stockton said:

Stocky
...
shocking. 4th my arse. starting with all the strikers then no where to go when we needed to press the game.

MON really needs to be questioned over this.
Comment 398, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.42 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
waht a joke we deserved that!! im so pissed off.where was our subs mon??
Comment 399, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.42 pm

swissvilla said:

0
...
sorry guys...we are not a team that can take a place in top four..sorry!
Comment 400, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.43 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
I cant believe im gonna say this, at everton i thought Heskey was our best player first half. I just saw last 5 mins of this game did Heskey play at all?
Comment 401, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.44 pm

Ammar said:

mon 4-5-1
...
Damian,
waiting for the post mortem!!! what utter shite...mon clueless...
Comment 402, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.45 pm

rushe10 said:

0
...
i admit martin o'neill is a good manager but he is about as good at tactics as the americans where finding f*cking nuclear weapons in iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment 403, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.45 pm

VDV said:

0
...
MON OUT
HIDDINK IN
Comment 404, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.45 pm

Chris Platt said:

clevelandvillian
...
Now Mr Lerners got two big problems
Comment 405, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.45 pm

Sean said:

sdtw84
...
true, we do need that arshavin player, we share the same view on that, but I just thought you were having a go at a team who showed good endeavour in the first half and created a number of chances and were only losing at half time because of a wrong decision, bit early to be berating the team you support.
your right, we do need to be beating a team like West Ham who are 19th...but were still in the first 10 games, and if you look at all there games, they have been very unlucky to be in that position, narrowly beaten by 3 top teams and just generally have had the worst luck...agree that we should still be beating them...anyway its my personal view that if we finish 6th again thats progress in a way, as Man City and Spurs have entered the race, I think we might sneak 5th in the end! think we need to sign one creative player in jan, unlikely to happen though...
Comment 406, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.45 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
...
Heskey was taken off at half time - and actually played well..

We played some really good football first half - Can anyone explained why MON CHANGED IT?
Comment 407, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.46 pm

Nick said:

HolteArmyNick
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Should've been out of sight by half time ... just another kick in the already battered bollocks that comes from being a Villa fan smilies/sad.gif
Comment 408, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.46 pm

david barron said:

0
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do we think MON should go now? i have been thinking it for awhile now.
Comment 409, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.46 pm

Greg said:

Greg Davillain1887
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im not gona be a doom monger but we were crap tonight, the guys at the back were atrocious, playing around on the edge of the box, we cudnt pass, nothing through the middle, and are midfield is terrible bar petrov, i cant see what sidwell brings to the team. Tough return for collins to west ham, dunnes concentration let him down, warnock was useless, ashleys delicery for most was crap but he look our best bet, i think out best player is agbonlahor and again he was starved of any real service. The game was there for the taking after we equalised, but we took our foot off the gas and retreat quicker than my helmet after a dip in the atlantic. Dunno what we were afraid of, we asked for it and got. Roll on the next match and we put it right.

Must say again pants absolutely pant tonight!
Comment 410, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.47 pm

deano-avfc said:

0
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a) Why play one man down from the start to give us a disadvantage? (Sidwell)
b) Why play Heskey on the left of midfield? What is the logic in this decision?
c) Why cant we pass the ball more than 3 times?
d) Why do we have to play long balls into the oppositions box all the time and give the ball away to them
e) Why is Marc Albrighton not getting a chance

Questions only Martin O'Neill can answer.

A truly embarrassing display, West Ham made us look like we were all pub players.

We need to start passing the ball around midfield like every other team in the world does, it's not rocket science.

UTV
Comment 411, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.48 pm

Ian Stockton said:

Stocky
...
sdtw84

we need someone who can turn chances into goals tho.
Comment 412, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.48 pm

Jinksy said:

Jinksy
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Bye is a pub player, Coker isn't even that good...Playing with 9 men from the start is not going to get 3 points.
Comment 413, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.49 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
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sdtw84. the way i see it is that if we dont finish above 6th then we haven`t progressed in 3 years.
Comment 414, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.50 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
I disagree strongly with the last few players (Deano and Greg). In the first half we played very well, probably as well as we've played all season. We created chances and looked solid at the back.

That continued up until we scored as well. Then came the long balls and the sloppy defending.
Comment 415, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.50 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
...
They targeted Beye right from the start - Carlton Cole knew he had the beating and then the sub.

MON got it very very wrong, when he did get it right - he decided to change it.

MON WILL NEVER TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL
Comment 416, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.50 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
...
Players? Comments I meant.
Comment 417, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.51 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
...
In coming. Take cover.
Comment 418, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.51 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
Cheers villa dude.
Comment 419, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.52 pm

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
...
...
do we think MON should go now? i have been thinking it for awhile now.


Hate to admit it, but........smilies/sad.gif
Comment 420, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.52 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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Why did we go to shit after Young goal - this was a game we shouid have won at a canter but as it has already been said we have been expecting this to happen over the last few game as you can not have inferior teams dictating the run of play as they did in the 2nd half of the game - we need a new midfield or you can say we have'nt got a f**king chance of progressing it to the top 4.
And that reality
Comment 421, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.53 pm

cavan said:

villafan144
...
i know weve lost and everything, but i think we were the better team 2nite, i do think however we ran out of steam by the 70th min, but the ref made some shocking desicions and for the 1st 70 mins we were good, esp the 1st 20 mins of the second half, we were all over them, it just wasnt our night, and we'll move on. no need for all doom and gloom, WH were due some luck after going 9 games without a win, one was alrways around the corner for them, i do have to say tho i havnt been impressed with carrew for a while, we do seem short up front iff gabby cant get a goal.
Comment 422, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.54 pm

Sean said:

sdtw84
...
yeah I suppose, but you cant vouch for man city and all that money...BY THE WAY, I started that last message before the final goal went in...gutted, that really is crap!

agree we do need someone better at sticking the ball in the back of the net, but a creative player would potentially create more clear cut/easier openings/opportunities for strikers, rather than at the moment where the only chance our strikers get are from scraps off long balls and average crosses!
Comment 423, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.54 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
After wasting a saturday at everton im glad i aint in the f**king rain down the smoke.!

I actually would like to punch the Irish p***k at this moment!
Comment 424, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.54 pm

caleb williams said:

caleb
...
lol chill out guys

keep the faith
Comment 425, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.55 pm

paul said:

PMR
...
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - WE'RE HAVING A LAUGH.
smilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gif
Comment 426, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.55 pm

paul said:

PMR
...
MON STAYS YOU T W A T
63PTS Last season is case you forgot.
Comment 427, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.55 pm

afvcbob said:

0
...
David Barron and Jockstrap

For f**ksake get real lads - MON out (grow some)
Comment 428, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.57 pm

Lee morris said:

Mozza
...
wtf can we expect from these players that have just been chucked back in without having a kick in weeks. MoN should have been using the damned squad and playing them throughout the last 11 games. no wonder they looked utter dog sh@t when called upon!! not gonna slag players off cos theres no bloody point but we clearly need another striker and maybe another 2 midfielders to play with petrov if he wont give delph a chance!

gonna go take my anger out on the missus!
Comment 429, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.57 pm

caleb williams said:

caleb
...
too much fickleness on this blog!
Comment 430, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.57 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
PMR r u sure ur names not PMT.
Comment 431, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.58 pm

Alex G said:

0
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I am concerned about these tactics of late. MON doesnt seem to have the balls to drop players but he is fully prepared to keep good players (NRC, Delph, Albrighton and L young) on the bench rotting away. All 3 of those players could eventually leave if he keeps this up and prove costly like cahill did. I think he would benefit from a few games sitting in the stands because maybe he is so busy performing on the sidelines that he doesnt really analyse the game and see the problems that all us fans see? Now that we have lost will we finally see changes?
Comment 432, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.58 pm

Chris Parry said:

fox-in-the-box
...

Viva,

its no coinsidence that we very rarely score more than one goal in a game which means MON must be instructing them to change the style of play when we do score.

hence we concede a lot of late goals because he is to afraid and tacticly not astute enough to push on for the second so often killer goal!

This will be contravertial but I don't really get the MON hype, the media love him which helps him, but he has achieved nothing to bask in glory that some villa fans and the media bandwagon lord upon him come rain or shine.

For Celtic and scottish football see Gordon Strachan, for Leicester see 1980's Clough style management.

Not good enough in my humble opinion!!!

Comment 433, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.59 pm

King VOGRA said:

0
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As VillaDude has just said we'll get nowhere with this clown in charge.
Apart from Collins we signed more dross this summer, Warnock is average,Dunne is too slow and has no tactical awareness, and Habib Beye, holy fcuk he's garbage..
Apart from beating a poor Liverpool side we've been average.
Why oh why Mon didnt sign another striker was beyond me, When Gabby hits his drought and with Heskey not scoring where the goals coming from?

Comment 434, made on November 04, 2009 at 8.59 pm

david said:

r0bb0
...
Some days the luck goes against you. Looks as if today was one of those days.
Cuellar (who shouldn't have been sent off last match) wasn't able to play.
West Ham shouldn't have had their penalty
Beye should not have been booked in the first half and we wouldn't have been down to 10 men at the end.
We should have had another penalty in first half
Comment 435, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.00 pm

Carl Main said:

Maindog
...
I am annoyed at the moment but I have been thinking this most of this season.....MON's stubborness is ruining this team!

He plays Sidwell because he feels as though he needs to justify this signing!...Its not going to happen, get over it!

He refuses to bring through youngsters who he has said himself could do a job in the premier league!

Delph must be regretting his decision to join us. MON is ruining his career. That kid needs to be played. The same as Gardner, Albrighton!

I hate having to say this as I am happy with what MON has done to our club and I would have loved to see him take us to the Champions League but I do feel he has done all he can here!

We need a modern day tactical manager to come in and work with this mostly talented squad! We need a manager who gets the best out of our players and knows what position they play best in.

I would love it so much if MON woke up tomorrow and realised he the ammount of mistakes he makes all time!....

MON, nice guy who knows how to get a changing room uplifted and knows the value of big strong players but knows absolutly nothing about the modern game and struggles immensely in the transfer market.

Im sorry to say this fellow sheep but....MON out!baaarrrrrrrrr
Comment 436, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.00 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
matt26may1982 said:
I actually would like to punch the Irish p***k at this moment!

hey c##t less os that im irish too and im depressed but no need for that shite!!
Comment 437, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.00 pm

Andi said:

Chiefy
...
it was a bad game and a bad performance so lets sack the manager sack the players and start again that will work wont it ?

one game that we should have won on paper, individual errors cost us again
Comment 438, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.02 pm

caleb williams said:

caleb
...
were you idiots saying 'MON OUT GRRR' after we beat chelsea? liverpool? nope. go to bed
Comment 439, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.02 pm

david said:

r0bb0
...
A couple of other thoughts.....
Was MoN right after all in playing Cuellar at RB?
Might Heskey just be starting to make some useful contributions?
Is Ashley starting to find some form?
Comment 440, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.03 pm

Damian said:

Damian
...
vogra

i'd disagree with you on the players we have brought in. i think they are all very good players but i think they are lacking direction. warnock for me was one of the best buys this summer. i might tend to agree with you a little on the beye singing, but he was purchased as backup surely ... and as far as backups go, he's not bad
Comment 441, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.03 pm

King VOGRA said:

0
...
matt26may1982 even i think that's a bit harsh, look as a man i think MON is great, nice bloke.
as a manager i don't rate him.
Comment 442, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.03 pm

afvcbob said:

0
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Limerick

Well said - Im irish and proud of it - lets all calm down and vent our anger at the man in charge. Its just not good enough
Comment 443, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.04 pm

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
...
It's not just this result. It's the managers stubbornness to change things, his stubbornness with players.

If L Young is fit enough for the bench he's fit enough to play so why not play him, because they fell out?

IF NRC was good enough to start games before his fall out with MON why does he not start now - because MON won't forgive him even though he states the matter is over?

Why play players out of position to fit to a formation?

Why continue to play players who are well below par and off-form? What message does that give to the bench - in fact, why have a bench?

Teams have cottoned on to our one dimensional play, will we change tactically or stubbornly continue as we are?

Are we happy to consolidate or should we be pushing on?

I'm starting to lose faith in the manager, it's a shame he sees us as too insignificant to question him.

I'm not normally so negative but we are not improving or progressing?
Comment 444, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.05 pm

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
...
ive said it for ages now, we will be lucky to finish in the top 8.
this is not being negative its being realisticbecause this season top 8 is still progress having the spuds and citeh factor and the fact we aint as good as some posters on here think we are. i think everyone knows we should be beating the 19th position sides if we are going to finish higher.
i read someone earlier that west ham were due a victory but did it have to be against us, joe bloggs goes -- games without scoring come along villa and he scores a hatrick!! why do we always seem to end everyones bad run.
Comment 445, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.05 pm

holte end faithful said:

0
...
when is mon going to stop insisting on playing the MUPPETS we the fans can see the likes of beye,sidwell petrov & young (A)just arnt good enough consistantly &of course not to mention the" goal scoring machine" that is heskey especially when luke young,gardener,allbrighten & the fonz are fit and ready to go
Comment 446, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.06 pm

david said:

r0bb0
...
Thanks Damian for that balanced response to Vogra....just stopped me from saying something i'd have regretted
Comment 447, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.08 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
Everyone who says stop moaning: BOLLOX! Every single f**king time Villa beat a couple of top teams or look like going top four its guaranteed they will lose to a shit team and blow the chance.
Comment 448, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.08 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
matt26may1982
it was the irish thing you said i didnt like!
Comment 449, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.11 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
...
Chiefy, its more than one bad game bad performance recently,wolves,everton,west ham, 2 points against these teams isnt good enough.wow we beat liverpool and chelsea what about wigan blackburn etc.can`t wait for bolton next up
Comment 450, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.12 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
VOGRA,
Course i wouldnt like to really just venting a bit out lol.

LIMERIK and BOB,

What u got a problem with me stating a fact he is Irish.
I couldnt give a f**k if you were a marshan from Mars, although they would probably be better at finding their potatoes.

Comment 451, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.14 pm

caleb williams said:

caleb
...
matt26 if you actually think there are shit teams in the prem and villa have a divine right to beat them, in this league... then your arrogance is unbelievable.

we're starting to sound like Tottenham fans, which is frightening.
Comment 452, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.15 pm

Fatkevs said:

0
...
This is a game we should have won because we were playing a team that likes to play football & are not very good.
Our shit football could not even beat the hammers
YES WE CAN deliver shit week after week & so many sheep defend it thinking we are pushing on
Cheer up you miserable Bastard great quote
TBH i do not know what planet i am on
Comment 453, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.16 pm

Fatkevs said:

0
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Yankee Go Home, the Browns need you & we need a board dedicated to Aston Villa week in week out not for the next press release.
Comment 454, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.19 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
ye matt i f**king do pal where u from then mate?
Comment 455, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.19 pm

afvcbob said:

0
...
MAYT26MY1982

No need for it and this blog is not designed for that comment. f**king grow up
Comment 456, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.19 pm

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
...
matt26may1982..
lets not make it racial mate as you didnt have to highlight the fact he is irish.


i think we can blow the liverpool victory out the water now as we all know they are having there worst spell for many a year, so that leaves the chelsea result which was good. then as before stated we lose points to absalute garbage which is not top four material.
Comment 457, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.19 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
Caleb,

Okay more historically then! Pedant.
Even tho west ham are in bottom 3 and not won a game at home yet! I think you know it too sonny. You should want and believe Villa to win every game regardless of it being possible, strive for more.
Comment 458, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.21 pm

Ammar said:

mon 4-5-1
...
...
matt26 if you actually think there are shit teams in the prem and villa have a divine right to beat them, in this league... then your arrogance is unbelievable.

we're starting to sound like Tottenham fans, which is frightening.


Ermm No actually you starting to sound like a Hull Fan. Last 3 games

Wolves Relegation candidates = 1 point.
Everton Low on morale out of form = 1 point.
West Ham Relegation Candidates = 0 points.

Please explain how this is arrogance expecting to beat at least 2 out of 3 of these sides.
Comment 459, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.23 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
Limerick
How do you know im not from old stab city me self.
Comment 460, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.23 pm

TheGreatDane said:

0
...
a) Why play one man down from the start to give us a disadvantage? (Sidwell)
b) Why play Heskey on the left of midfield? What is the logic in this decision?
c) Why cant we pass the ball more than 3 times?
d) Why do we have to play long balls into the oppositions box all the time and give the ball away to them
e) Why is Marc Albrighton not getting a chance


Agree 100% on all points Deano
Comment 461, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.24 pm

Fatkevs said:

0
...
We were all told MoN takes so long in the transfer market because he Dots all the I's & crosses all the T's
Maloney Shorey Bye
I can only guess all the last minute purchases have had to be panic buys as he gets no guidance from the board what is available to him
Comment 462, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.25 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
mon 4 5 1

Someone who actually has the bollox to tell it like it is.
Comment 463, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.27 pm

Fatkevs said:

0
...
Its the deluded fans that sound like spud fans the ones that will vanish & never put hard £s into the club
Comment 464, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.27 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
matt
Im from antrim actually just work here and ill tell u this uve got a big mouth behind ur big computer.if i was to turn around and say that about an english manager i would expect to be kicked off the site.fact.
Comment 465, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.31 pm

matthew halsey said:

matt26may1982
...
Im not from Limerick really mate, im from a small island not far from there. I live with me mate who loves footy tho hes a bit dim, another whos always pissed and a mad bird who keeps askin us if we want a cup of tea. Ah go on go on go on you will you will you will lol.
Goodnight father.
Comment 466, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.44 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
...
Fatkevs, i don`t think you can have a go at the board or owner really mate, MON has been backed and spent a fortune on utter garbage.the shit we see on the pitch is down to the manager/coaches
Comment 467, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.48 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
matt
tiochfaidh ar la ma chairdre!! lolsmilies/wink.gif
Comment 468, made on November 04, 2009 at 9.51 pm

FatKevs said:

0
...
The board define the clubs goals the buck stops there not hiding behind 1 man
The Club is greater than 1 man many have forgotten this.
We may be a yanks toy but we are more than that surely
Comment 469, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.00 pm

paul said:

PMR
...

We're all pissed when they play like that but you cant have the wins against Liverpool and Chelsea without having crap results like 2-1 at West Ham and 2-0 at home to Wigan - Otherwise we'd be a top 4 side wouldn't we?
We are not a top four side, in fact we are way off and need to stop listening to our own hype. MON does get in wrong from time to time. Only at the end of the season will we know if he's got it right enough times to deserve his job.
For me over 60pts would be ok in the league and I'd like to see a real good stab at both the Carling and FA Cup.
This season is about rebuilding as much as anything with the loss of our best player and our best defender in the summer.
Barry was very difficult to replace and no one can say that he hasn't tried to fill the gap bringing in Delph and Downing.
Delph has a way to go and Downing isn't even fit yet.

It annoys me to that the likes of Albrighton and Fonz aren't getting a shout, but if we'd have won tonight no one would be saying why didn't he play so and so, or why was Heskey on the wing. (Even though MON must have had a brain fart when he put that team sheet in smilies/wink.gif )
Comment 470, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.04 pm

Ammar said:

mon 4-5-1
...
Were do we start. Let’s start with the team selection.

1. We can be positive as we like but the fact is why was L.Young not playing ?

Not playing L.Young pretty much cost us 3 points. Mr O'Neil please explain to us why he was not in the first team ?

Our best defender (Excluding Larsson) of last season even when playing out of position and you have decided not to select him. Apparently in your eyes he is now third choice behind Cueller and Beye. What a Joke!!!!

2. You decided Sidwell has earnt the right to play in centre midfield regardless of the phathetic performances he has put in of late. Please explain to us what he brings to the side. Apparantly he is there so score goals. How many has he scored!!!.

3. Mr O'Neil please can you explain what benefits Heskey brings to the squad over the Fonz ? He has not scored and latest rumours surfacing were that he may be selected at right back. This was not taken seriously but Beye now suspended now this may become a reality if Cueller is still not availible. Marvellous!!!

4. Why when a game is at a critical stage do we not utilise our substitutes ? I believe prior to start of the season your comments were something in the region of
"Our squad will be really stretched as this season we can have 7 subs on the bench".
Why bother we only ever use 1 if were lucky so we only need 2 subs on the bench.
Goalie for back up purposes and either Carew or Heskey to come off the bench.

Today was very depressing against a team who will get turned over more often then not and Zola will eventually walk or get sacked. They made us look very ordinary.

Simply Not good enough..
Comment 471, made on November 04, 2009 at 10.09 pm

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