Written by Damian Wednesday, 23 September 2009 09:42
Morning all and some news to start with; it looks like Harewood is off to Newcastle. Nothing is confirmed, but it just looks like it will be happening and if it does, it will initially be a loan deal for three months. It will be good for the player and if it does happen, I for one hope he does well.
But, to the Carling Cup and we are playing tonight, so this post will be the place where a few things will be getting dropped today under specific headings but if you have any links you think might be interesting, also drop them in the comments box below and if they are worth it, we will add them to the user links section that you will see below as and when we get the first one.
I don't think this game is on TV anywhere but there is every chance we will get a few links later but you will be able to get Jack Walker on AVTV and there will be local radio coverage, but before that, the manger.
The Manager on Cardiff City in the Carling Cup
Martin O'Neill, from the club site
We desperately want to win the game and we will go strongly. We will make some changes to the side but the players who are coming in are not peripheral players - they are quality ones in our squad who have played a big part in getting results in the not-too-distant past. They will feel a bit unlucky not to be in the side at the moment actually.
We just want to make some progress. We are out of Europe so we really want to concentrate on everything domestically. This competition is upon us and we will go and give it everything we've got.
Team News
This is coming as we get it, but as the manager has suggested there will be changes and with Heskey and Young unlikely, don't be surprised to see Milner on the left and Albrighton come in (can't find confirmation that he has joined Forest on loan), Beye to come in and quite possibly Reo-Coker in the middle.
The Players
Guzan, Beye, Cuellar, Collins, Shorey, Milner, Delph, Petrov, Gardner, Agbonlahor and Carew
Subs: Sidwell, Dunne, Friedel, Clark, Albrighton, Delfouneso and Warnock
Live Updates
There will be updates via Twitter and the forum and I suspect below. The forum will probably be easier to follow, but both are welcome.
User Links
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Chris Harper
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... Morning Damian Looking forward to going to the game tonight. Even though its not the first 11 that will play, you can still expect a strong 2 string with the squad we have now. How long has it been since we could feel this way?!? Happy days!  |
Matt-e
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... I think the team will be something like Guzan Beye Collins Cuellar Shorey Albrighton Reo-Coker Delph Milner Carew Delfouneso |
Damian
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... Villa_Chris the team put out tonight should be strong enough for Cardiff. No disrespect but they just should be. However, Dave Jones is no mug .. he'll know what they have to do .. |
Adey Stuttard
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... Matt E, Agree with you but would like to see Gardner get a go in a 4-5-1 with Carew up top on his own. And my preference would be to have Cuellar and Dunne, as I think they would be the best partnership long term in the league (although Collins has started well, I always though he would be fighting with Davies for the 3rd/4th CB slot). Unfortunately I see yet another disappointing crowd figure tonight a la QPR last season, 26,000 of which 10,000 were QPR fans! |
Andi
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... I dont know what it is with fans, we lose no one goes, we draw no one goes, we win no one goes, we are on a winning streak and play a team that we will beat no one goes. Yet when we play badly every man and their dog has an opinion that they have derived from sitting in their comfy armchair while watching match of the day on a saturday night. Some people say ticket prices well i dont know of another club that does as much as Villa with its tickets prices and trying to get the fans down the ground. I dont know how but it seems that we have a larger glory hunting fan following that what we imagine. Tonight i expect lots of changes and a good performance, the lads that did so well in the peace cup will get their chance and i expect us to play very well. I can see a nice scoreline 3 maybe 4, as soon as we get our first they will crumble. However I do reckon their fans will out sing ours they have about 3500 going |
Chris Harper
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...Some people say ticket prices well i dont know of another club that does as much as Villa with its tickets prices and trying to get the fans down the ground Tell me about it.... tonights game is a complimentary ticket because went to the Europa game, then the train is 'Super Saver' costing £1.50 return! Add a burger or chips n your talking 5 quid to watch my beloved Villa! Bargain! |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... Wasn't Collins struggling towards the end of the Pompy game? Anyway, he has been injury prone in the past, so maybe best to rest him for Saturday? I would go with....Guzan, Beye, Cueller, Dunne (Captain) Shorey, Albrighton, Gardner, NRC, Delph, Bannan, Carew. Subs - Fridel, Warnock, Collins, Milner, Sidwell, Petrov, The Fonz. |
John Samuels
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... Richard Dunne, Rather than being injury prone I think Collins suffered one major injury rather than lots. Much like Bouma. I fancy Collins and Clarke at the back tonight. |
Deano-avfc
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... I used my complimentary ticket on sat against pompey. Bit disappointed they wouldn't let me sit in the Holte end, they said you have to sit in the Doug Ellis lower. Must admit, the north stand do their best at singing, I was joining in with a couple others in the D E lower but all in all no one really cares about signing there and its only half the north stand, these people don't realise how it can lift the team, look at Anfield, Old trafford etc, we are awesome away from home so why don't people raise the roof when were at VP?? Suppose people just kind of expect us to win now or get something out of the games play. UTV |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Chiefy said: No, the opposite is true. The Villa doesn't have ANY glory hunting fans, because The Villa hasn't had any glory for years. The Villa doesn't even make any exciting signings to wet the glory-hunting appetite When The Villa has some glory in the here and now, we will attract glory-hunting fans who will go to the matches. And a good thing too it will be. |
Adey Stuttard
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... Pancho, the same has happened at Liverpool though, and the locals who want season tickets can't get them as all the "day trippers" get tickets for one off games, so they spend money in the club shop. You can see them at Liverpool games with their mobiles out, filming the fans singing YNWA. Is that what we want at Villa? Glory, yes, Glory hunters, no. |
Andi
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... The support at away games is immense the noise the away fans make is great but then its a group of like minded fans in small minority where as at Villa Park they are all dispersed around the ground so we cant seem to be able to get some proper noise going, in the Holte end by the time the upper holte have started singing and it has got to the lower holte they stop singing so only half of the holte is making any noise at any one time it drives me mad i loved it when it was standing that was proper singing. It would only take the upper holte to carry the song on for another verse by then the lower holt would have cottoned on and visa a versa |
Andi
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... Pancho - for people from Birmingham who want to support a local team but are not intrested like many of us are who will they choose ? who is the most successful brummie team ? we are so the so called fans who want to where the tops etc etc choose villa so i do disagree with you there i reckon we have a large amount of brummie glory hunters on board |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... 1874AVFC: Liverpool is a global brand. That is where The Villa needs to be in my view. Buy your season tickets now. One day there will be a waiting list. |
Simon
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... I think the team will be Guzan Beye, Carlos, Clark, Shorey Albrighton, NRC, Delpe, Young Carew, Fonz. Subs, Milner, Gabby, Stan, Dunne, Warnock |
Panos
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...Pancho Villan said: I have to agree with this. Success always attracts interest, and glory and glory-hunters always go together. Some of us might not like it, but that's how it's always been and always will be. |
Simon
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... Just checked villa web site and both Youngs, Heskey, Downing and Bouma are all unavailable due to 1 thing or another. |
Adey Stuttard
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... Always find this a good website http://www.physioroom.com/news..._table.php The only league Birmingham will be top of as well  |
Keith
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... I dont think Young will be risked tonight and reading MONs comments I think we can expect to see Collins and Dunne at CB, with Beye and Shorey at FB. Delph played a lot of game LW at Leeds so he may play there if Milner rested as well. Would like to see Albrighton given a match though. |
VillaNick
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... If Young is injured, I think MON will play Milner instead. Petrov, Dunne or Collins, Gabby & Sidders will be rested, I fear it might be a close game! Guzan Beye Colins Clark Shorey Milner NRC Delph Albrighton Fonz Carew |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... Reo's not in the squad for tonight. FFS just let it go and lets get on with winning games. I really thought this saga was over ut obviously not. Why say that's the end of the matter and then drop him from the next squad? This is going to drag on until Jan!! |
RAZ
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... Anfield makes a good racket at times but OLD TRAFFORD?!?!?!?! WHAT?????? No way they make alot of noise at home... it is a known fact villa fans are better away from home anyway UTV!!!! |
Ronan Kenny
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... Villa_Chris NRC didnt bother his arse to go and support the team v Pompey, i would say MON considers that an insult so it wouldnt suprise me at all if he wasnt in the squad tonight. He could find it very hard at this rate to get back in MON good books. |
Car Frost
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... I like Gardner for his work rate and he's always liekly to hit a 20 yarder but for me he has come of age at the wrong time and will never have the natural ability to grace our first team on a regular basis. Sadly I can see him going the same way as Whittingham, it will be interesting to compare the two tonight to see if they are the same level, personally think Whittingham would still make a decent premier league player somewhere like Hull / Stoke. |
Car Frost
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... Looks liek he's already spoken about it.. Cardiff City winger Peter Whittingham is aiming for Carling Cup revenge tonight against his former Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Villa_Chris said: I sure do hope this is a complete load of bollox We need the CokeMobile bigtime if we are to stand any chance in the upcoming City and Chelsea games I'm banknig on this being crap, but all eyes on the team sheet and subs tonight. I'd have Reo captain tonight if it were me. |
Andy Young
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... Deano-avfc, Could I just ask, did you need to show your ticket stub from the Rapid Vienna game at the turnstiles or anything? I'm planning on going to the Bolton game in November but can't find my ticket from the game. When they initially introduced the idea and offered us free entry into a Europa League group game, it said that you'd need to show your ticket stub. UTV |
Car Frost
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... More good news lads.. this man is in goal for Cardiff tonight .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18QsjFUquD8 |
Chris Harper
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... Pancho Villan Im with you on this one, but then again, it wasn't you or I that were verbally abused by the CokeMobile!  |
Chris Harper
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... odysseynumberfive I would imagine that you have to ring up, state which game it is you want to see with the free ticket and have it delivered to you. Is there a reference number or something on the stub that you can quote? |
Andi
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... Some mad Liverpoo fans have managed to dream up that A.Young or J.Milner will be signing for Liverpoo in January hahahaha they make me laugh they have no money but they seen to think SHIEK MONSOUR HICKS AND PRINCE GILLET are loaded for some reason. Why do Liverpool fans wind oyu up so much !!!  |
RobL
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... Guys, im in australia, so does anybody have a good link for the game? ill be up at 430 haha |
Damian
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... RobL I'm sure there will be one later ... but I'm not sure where it is on TV so might not be that many .. Think it will be a case of radio stream tonight |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... I posted it on yesterdays thread but did many see MON's interview on SSN yesterday? I got the impression that the NRC thing is far from over and i wouldn't be too sure if he has a long term future at VP. Pity as he was doing a very effective job in there. I hope MON can learn to let this go. He needs to be the bigger man and see we have nobody else who can do his job and forgive him. |
Daniel Wilson
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... Don't worry about Reo-Coker, he has probably just got a back problem or an infected toe nail, like John Carew gets on a regular basis.... Behind the scenes at Villa park is more confidential than the FBI. Wheres Mulder and Scully when you need them. Maybe someone at the club should just be honest for a change and tell us the truth instead of feeding us garbage. Our team will only suffer if this continues to drag on. |
Andi
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... RobL - i feel for you getting up at that time here is a link it is listed on here and it works great : http://www.rajangan.net/ They are playing tonights game through that site. ak_27 -- unfortunatly i think Reo-Coker will be gone in January, over the web MON has been saying there is to much player power and he wouldnt say everyone in the dressing room is behind, so i think its got MON as much as it has Coker, he says it wouldnt have happened in his day. I think MON will stamp his authority down and ship Reo - Coker out probably to Spurs, hopefully with keane coming this way, I am behind MON on this Reo-Coker knows his place which is player MON is the manager and what he says goes so Reo obviously thrown his toys out but MON aint having it and i dont blame him or before you know it Carew will have Guzan, Albrighton and Clark at legs 11 and it will be going tits. its a shame but i think Reo has shot himself in the foot |
John Samuels
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... ak, I reckon Delph will get a run out tonight. NRC to be saved for Blackburn at the weekend. We're gonna need him against a Big Sam side, it's gonna be a kick fest. Tonight may well be a soft touch with Cardiff resting a few, fingers crossed. Sat will be a very tough game as Blackburn seem to have turned a corner recently. Get NRC in the team for then, he will have learnt his lesson. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... JPA are Cardiff really resting players? They are decent side but if they are resting a few i might take the odds Paddypower are offering us tonight. |
John Samuels
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... Dave Jones said that he will change the side because of the massive visit to Wednesday at the weekend. Scimeca is in the team and he hasn't started in over a year and they're not playing their first choice CB pairing. Check out Cardiff newsnow for the latest, but it was all over the place yesterday. Chiefy, they are gradually picking up points and suddenly look like they can score goals again. It's gonna be a blood and thunder game I reckon. Roberts, Diouf etc. We'll need to be winning the ball in midfield and have our wits about us at the back. |
RobL
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... Cheers Chiefy never a problem dragging myself out of bed for 90 minutes of counter attacking football  |
Andi
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... JPA -- They may be picking up points but they arent winning, they are not playing great and it will be run of the mill big sam football, we stick to our game and not get dragged into there scruffy game and we will be fine are back four can stand up to them and our middle field and forwards can out run them we will get them on the break every time dont see anything other than a villa win saturday |
John Samuels
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... I think we'll win, but I think we need Nige in the side. You can't take anything for granted in this league. Remember Wigan at VP! |
welsh villan
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... i live in spain and a lot of the pubs have dodgy sky and cable boxes does anyone know if this game is on espn or canal+ sports or something..... any feedback will be greatly appreciated. |
Andi
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... I dont take it for granted i just believe we are a different class to them, as long as we dont get dragged into the scruffy game we will be fine. They will play into our hands they start playing long ball thats fine we will counter than one after another we just got to keep our discipline against them and not let them wind us up |
Andi
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... welsh villan -- i dont think so i have put a link to a stream further up but thats about it me thinks |
Paul Gough
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... So far there are no confirmed links for this match anywhere. Most of last nights cup matches went uncovered so I doubt if anyone will find a link for the Villa match. I will have another look an hour before kickoff an post it here if I find one. |
Richard Dunne my lord, Richard Dunne!!
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... I agree, the NRC thing is obviously not over, but why come out in the press and say I have drawn a line under it and it's in the past and then drop him from the squad?! It makes no sense. If you're still not over it, make it clear by making him train with the reserves until Jan and fine him. Instead he lets him train as usual, doesn't fine him and then doesn't pick him?!?! Very strange and very contradictive. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... I still think that if Reo was on his way out, his agent would be spinning the details of grapplegate in Reo's favour. And what of yesterday's story where Reo apologises and takes on an extra training session all by himself ? |
Andi
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... DeGouch -- the link i put earlier on in the blog is a link to stream it from the web, or i wouldnt have put it |
Jinksy
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... If Reo-Coker plays for Villa again i for 1 will be gutted. Get rid of the rubbish he has been a joke for 3 years and has contributed nothing. He's a Crap player out of his depth at this level. It was great news when i the news broke to me he'd been sent home while i was playing golf in Spain great news. Time for Delph to to sep up to the plate & show he's 10 times the player Joker is.... |
James Clift
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... Anyone got any links yet? If there isn't going to be a decent one I'm gonna have to go and really can't be arsed tonight. |
Paul Gough
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... Sorry Chiefy I guess I should all the posts before posting myself. Its a new one to me. Thanks for posting it. www.rajangan.net |
Andi
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... Honestly it is streaming on this site click on the link it will list the games being shown !!! http://www.rajangan.net/ |
John Clark
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...ak_27 said: I think most of us wish it had never happened, but it did, and I don't see this being the sort of thing MON is going to let go of easily. He did say the matter was closed, but that could mean anything. NRC challenged MON and his authority in front of the entire team. I'd have been sacked on the spot. If I were MON, and a player told me to f*ck off, I'd send him packing. As others have said, though, perhaps he's saving NRC for the weekend, and it has in fact been put to rest. Very hard to say. But MON's not the sort to indulge this kind of disrespect, and I support him fully in that. |
Andi
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... It would be an idea Damian if perhaps we could say stick links etc to the side or top of the page for example on match day for streams etc ??? |
Andi
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... if MON lets NRC get away with this with just a weekend off he is a mug, Carew only went to a see a stripper and look what happened to him. I think however much we wanted him to play NRC is a going you cant challenge managment in front of the rest of the workforce / in this case team you are meant to have a quiet word but to wrestle with the manager well that say it all. Still reckon sidwell put NRC up to it |
Andi
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... oh my word i have just read that in the mirror "Patrick Berger has assured Nigel Reo-Coker that MON doesnt hold grudges. Now forgive if i am wrong but didnt Berger end up in the reserves ??? |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... kohoutek: Your reasoning is good but I would add that what Barry did, in releasing a statement to the press criticising MON, was in my view infinitely more disrespectful than losing it in the heat of the moment, and swearing at the boss. what Barry did was premeditated disrespect and yet MON did not let his own ego get in the way of what was good for the team. MON fined him, banned him for a while, then brought him back into the fold. In this Coker case, to my knowledge, Reo hasn't even been fined, and the club captain has come out and said Reo is part of the family. Again, nobody said 'good ole Barry' after his press release. So I think MON has dealt with the issue as he says, and the Cokemobile will be munching on the man city midfield come Monday week, and maybe even crunching on the Cardiff tonight. Maybe again that's just my wishful thinking, but right now, in this team, we need the Coker. Let us not be totally fooled just yet by clean sheets against relegation fodder. There are much bigger tests just around the corner. |
Jinksy
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... Pancho Villan - Maybe again that's just my wishful thinking, but right now, in this team, we need the Coker What an complete load of bollox. |
Jinksy
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... Pancho Villan - Maybe again that's just my wishful thinking, but right now, in this team, we need the Coker |
John Samuels
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... Jinksy, You little rascal. Can you not see that he is actually quite decent? Why pick on him when there are players who have been playing worse i.e the way Sidwell goes missing or the erratic nature of Beye's positioning, or Carew's anonymity against Pompey. Add a few stats and facts to your argument rather than just repeating the 'rubbish' in capital letters. We can all use a keyboard, maybe you should learn to use a thing called reason. |
Jinksy
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... JPA - I can't be arsed with stats but i have been watching this bloke since the London press gave him 9/10 every week when he was at West Ham. I watched a game he played for the under 21's & had a mare & guess what the Londaon press gave him 9/10 MOTM. I watched him again for West Ham he had a mare & yep 9/10. I thought it must be me but mate he has been awfull for Villa played a handfull of ok games & everyone on here says he was brilliant. Sorry it's an opinion but funny how MON doesn't pick him even though he paid 8.5m for him. Why? Again in my opinion it's because he can't pass, shoot, run with the ball, tackle. Regarding sidwell i agree, Carew has earned the right to have a bad game he's our best player, Beye is a pub player & isdn't in the team because of that fact & Capital letters is my PC way of SHOUTING... it's OPINION that's all... |
paul mclafferty
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... jinksy... doesnt it bother you when carew gets the ball holds it up then passes it to a winger, then watches as the winger takes it down the line to cross it into a box where he should have bust a gut to get on the end of it, but the winger looks back to see carew strolling very leisurely. or am i the only one who sees this, even tho i love the big fella i think he can be a lazy t**t at times. |
Jinksy
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... holteend paul - Yes it does mate but he's our best player in my opinion & will score 20 goals if played every week. He has his lazy moments but then he has more class touches flick on's & leads the line brilliantly like Man U away last season he was unplayable. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Jinksy: If we play Chelsea without the Cokemobile, then Lampard, Essien, and Ballack, will rip us to shreds. The Cokemobile may not be Makalele, but he's the best we got by a long way at disrupting the oposition midfield. Of course you will cock a deaf'n at any argument in favour of the Coko Crunch, but put your prejudices to one side for a moment and you will see that if we play Petrov and Delph in the middle against decent oposition, we'll get creamed. Heaven knows it was bad enough against Wigan. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... then I hope sky sports are talking jibberish, and I refuse to believe it until I see it on the official site. hm...... Sky are usually pretty accurate |
Steve Clayton
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... holteend paul Totally agree mate, Carew drops deep or wide then strolls leisurely towards the general direction of goal, a top striker would give it and then attack the box. Carew is so frustrating, he can be a match winner but often looks lazy and disinterested. It's a shame because when he can be bothered to get in the box he looks a real threat. |
Dave
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... If we seriously miss NRC a player that can't pass or shoot then something major is wrong. Any proffessional footballer should be able to make a nuisance of themselevs for 90 minutes and be a ballwinner - the difference is most of them would also be capable of passing more than 5 yards after they've won it. |
pete
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... the burp who else could play in that position ?.its good he cant pass more than 5 yards,short passing is better than long ball. |
bobvillian
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... collins best signing this year;a defender who can pass a football a born leader next captain of wales.ask any west ham supporter and 95 g;ree he was there best defender |
Halfwit
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... No channels are broadcasting this game so there wont be any links Iv not seen it on any tv listings at all even checked some of the american channels listings nothing on there either Highlights tonight bbc1 it seems....Funny how they make sure man u gets shown lol |
James Clift
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... Chiefy, Do you have to use the download on that site to watch the game? I tried downloading but can't do it. |
Tommy
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... I am personally a fan of Reo-Coker but will admit that during his time here his passing leaves much to be deisred. However, even then I thought he made up for that with his work ethic and winning/leader type mentality as well as his ability to often come out on top in 50/50 challenges. This season it looks to me, from the few games he has played, that he has actually worked hard on his passing because he looked a lot more skilled. |
Dave
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... NO 10 - I'm at odds as to how to phrase this but anyone should be capable of doing what NRC does as long as they're fit enough. That position however, should be filled with somebody who at least you would trust to take a corner... |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Just been looking at the official site matchday console. All references to Reo are obviously being censored out. This is all very foolish, very foolish indeed. |
pete
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... for the streams i google iraqgoals and away you go, thats got justin tv on as well.no need to download anything. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Without Coker, teams like Chelsea will simply walk through our midfield. A lot on here have as much clue about the realities of premiership football as Tony Mowbray |
Damian
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... Guzan, Beye, Cuellar, Collins, Shorey, Milner, Delph, Petrov, Gardner, Agbonlahor and Carew Subs: Sidwell, Dunne, Friedel, Clark, Albrighton, Delfouneso and Warnock |
ChicoHamiltonsPants
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... Pancho I agree totally. Burp if you think Sidders is the boy, which i'm not saying you are the only thing you can guarentee him doing is being the first player booked. |
david mc gorrian
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... get well soon mate couple of hot whiskeys with some lemonade in it shud do the trick,UTV |
Andy Scarborough
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...Pancho Villan said: I still can't laugh at that. Sorry. |
david mc gorrian
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... right wel have a competition whosever link works first and post it here is just brilliant lol.  |
Damian
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... I've got a feeling you might not find a link for tonights game and it might be a case of sitting back and listening to it on the radio ... that is what I am resigned to doing Brings back memories |
paul mclafferty
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... pete hutton.... do me a favour and just take a couple of minutes to read a couple of posts before asking already answered quetions. |
Nath
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... This game will not be streamed anywhere, and that is the gods honest truth, the only televised game for the carling cup game in the whole world is Man United, its 100% certain you wont get a stream. Unless a fan brings a camcorder into stadium. Best bet is either watch sky sports news, radio, or BBC1 at 23:20 for the highlights Nath x |
paul mclafferty
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... come on then lads minute the first goal gets scored anyone???? mine is 23rd. |
Werner Olsen
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... gillette soccer special (no match) Live tv from the cup round: http://www.justin.tv/coalhouse7 |
ChicoHamiltonsPants
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... allied forces are attacking iraqgoals.net thats why there not showing it. |
pete hutton
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... holteend paul - easy tiger, only asking  cheers damian for providing that answer... |
Nath
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... http://mediaweb.musicradio.com...p?s=14&e=0 If you live outside UK, use my postcode DE13 0HD |
tubby dunne
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... Great opportunity for delph tonite give him the full 90 and let him settle into the set up should be well capable of showing what his got against this opposition and a goal would be perfect |
John Clark
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... Pancho: Do see what you're saying. I think the "overlooking" the Barry thing had as much to do with MON's ego in relation to Benitez and Liverpool, and establishing the precedent that Villa weren't going to be bullied into selling as anything else. When City came in, and well under MON's initial valuation, he wasted no time sending Barry on his way. I think he subordinated his ego for 'strategic' reasons. And, as you say, there are at least 'tactical' if not strategic reasons for letting the NRC thing be buried. It may also be the case, though, this has been simmering a bit, and if MON and NRC did actually physically come to grips with each other, it's a bit different than going to the press. I agree, "F*ck off" and going to the papers, it's pretty similar in terms of disrespect. It may have been a different kind of disrespect in MON's eyes, though, ie, thinking a player might be put up to something by an agent vs. having a player explode on you in training, and perhaps, allegedly, having a tussle. It's a hard one to figure. I do agree that Reo is invaluable in breaking up opposition play, if nothing else, and is a valuable asset for that reason alone. As to what's really going on, whether it's really behind them both, etc., god only knows. And, of course, when I say I'd send him packing...well, this, among a number of other very sound reasons, is indicative of why I'm not in charge of a football team. He'd have to put on a tutu, bring me roses, and apologize to me in front of the entire team to keep me from having his locker cleaned out. But I'm old school. |
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... I did say there wont be links because tv broadcasters are not covering it but for some reason they wont allow my messages on this site just like no one will probably see this one either |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... kohoutek: But I'm old school Well I guess his not being in the squad tonight says it all. MON is obviously from the same old school as yourself |
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... Gabby Gabby Gabby Gabby Gabby Agbonlahor.......He's fast as foook.. I eat my words...in the summer I said he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. 4 in 4. Dare I say if he keeps his confidence up, he might be our 20 goal man. UTV |
Keith
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... fastbackace Think radio channels can't air match on line due to contractual issues. Anyone know the formation? Tom Ross is f**king useless doesn't give any info. |
Andy Scarborough
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... 96.4 BRMB live commentary. Only if you live in the Brum area. Down here (London) all I get is Spuds. Is it on Sky? If it is I will have to creep out of work to a pub - shame. |
John Clark
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... Pancho: Perhaps...maybe he's just making his point, sitting him out a week. Guess we'll really know at the weekend when we see whether he's in the squad at all. |
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... kshdfjohasfdjas cant even find a damn channel. im just going to move to aston. |
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... i dont know how to post on the forum. damian, does it sound like were playing well... or just joking around playing sunday ball? |
Marcus Connolly
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... Villa playing well Milner and Gabby + Delph playing very well, Cardif not bad either, Live text on forum |
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...Pancho Villan said: Engaging reductio ad absurdum to this proposition, we could say that the tuition from Heskey from January on is what brought about Agbonlahor's complete loss of form last season. JPA, Your piece earlier today - very worthy, very earnest. One thousand, one hundred and sixty words. Your faith in the stamina of the bloggers here is commendable but, I fear, unfounded. The average football fan, including me, has about the same attention span as a roof tile. On a good day. Don't be upset with me; I encouraged you to do this which demonstrates my belief in your ability. Damian continues to indulge you - as he does me - and this is good because a writer needs a platform. Less is more. This is true in all artistic endeavours. |
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... So, a below par performance from the Villa, but at the end of the day (night) a win is a win and we're in the draw for the next round. 6 wins on the trot now. Does anyone know that last time Villa won 6 in a row? Sounds like gardener had a fairly good game and was unlucky to get subbed. Hopefully a few more of the fringe players will impress in the next round and I won't have to bite my nails in injury time when the opposition has a goal disallowed. UTV!! |
Trevor
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... well one nil and through to the next round with resting a few players..cant complain gabby gets another goal and another clean sheet....its all good |
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