Written by Damian Wednesday, 24 February 2010 10:34
If we win tonight we will have what many will agree, is the best possible draw for the next round. I say if, but we should and while nothing in football is a foregone conclusion, we should.
So, if we do win tonight, we will be another step closer to another Wembley final and it isn't that I don't value the League Cup, I want to win as much as anyone on Sunday and winning on Sunday will be the best day as an Aston Villa fan for a number of years, but if you are going to win silverware, after the League, the FA Cup is the big one, in terms of domestic competitions.
Winning the FA Cup would really elevate us. The League Cup will elevate us for a bit but will be seen as a bigger success by our own fans than others. Winning the FA Cup would be seen as a much bigger success by other fans and really would be quite impressive.
Not that the League Cup isn't a success. If I was offered the League Cup today and going out tonight, I'd take it. Silverware is important and that is me just been greedy; there is no reason we can't win both and I want both, but I am also just trying to take one week at a time and when we win on Sunday, the focus will very much be FA Cup for me.
FA Cup Replay
So, to tonight and you will be able to watch the match on the FA website here or Villa Streams here and we will be adding team news as we get it and doing live updates here and on Twitter.
Early Team News
This is difficult. I really do believe one or two players will get rested and I think that is all that can be done. That isn't to say it isn't needed, but I think that a change or two will be good and I also don't think too many changes can now be made, it is too late to make wholesale changes, to use a phrase used by someone yesterday.
I'm not going to say that I think Milner needs a rest or that it might be a good idea for Petrov, but if it is those two, I think it will be the best choice. I think also that O'Neill could play his eleven for Sunday on Saturday and they'll still give 100% on both days and I think it might still be enough. I am confident in O'Neill getting the players up for it on Sunday.
Big Match
This is new territory for us. One Cup Final, another within touching distance. We can not take our eye off the ball tonight and I'm sure it will be a very good game and after the 16 minutes last Sunday, I think we might see another spell just like that tonight.
So, updates as and when we get today. Please update with any links in the comments below and below, some links to some news that I'm not mentioning above, but worth a read.
- Cup Ticket Factsheet - club site
- Guide to Wembley - club site
- Carling Cup English players - guardian.co.uk
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Andi
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... Woohoo Just incase anyone wants to know Carlos Cuellar updated his face book status telling everyone how the team are well up for it and they want 2 cups not just the 1. We are going to spank this lot like we should have done first time round surely they stand no chance at our ground. I will be there singing our troops into battle for what will be nothing more than a training exercise, but thats what worries me against poorer opposition we take our eye of the ball hence the replay. I am sure they have learnt from that though and hopefully we will get to see Delph have 90mins. Brad Young Cuellar Collins Warnock Young Delph Milner Downing Carew Fonz got 3-0 written all over it Carew, Fonz and Young |
SurreyVillan
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... Ever since we made it to this final 4th place has seemed less of a holy grail than it did at the start of the season. I have great memories of being at Wembley for the '94 and '96 finals and to me at the moment that's what it's all about: the silverware. Pundits and commentators have been on and on about what Villa fans (even MoN) would rather have out of LCp and 4th. Dunne summed it up for me when he said when you look back at your playing career you want something tangible to reflect on. I'd take a winners' medal every day of the week. Agree with you though Damien re taking the FAC over the LCp. It's something I've wanted us to win for ages and I always felt it could be in our reach. I cried my eyes out all the way back down Wembley Way in 2000 and the fact we haven't won it for 53 years makes it all the more desireable so I want us to hammer Palace tonight and worry about Sunday tomorrow morning. Team selection will be interesting... |
Mathew Watson
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... Being on the big stage is what its about. Many of our current squad have not won anything or even played in europe or for their respective countries. This will hold them in good stead and give them valuable experience to go on and do better. It wouldnt suprise me if we went out tonight with players with one eye on sunday, however we have more than enough to put this to bed. My prediction 2-1 to us tonight with a cheecky 1-0 in the final. COME ON THE VILLA !!! |
Carl Main
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... These are exciting and testing times for us now!!! Just imagine the domestic double and finishing in the top 6 this season! Id take that over 4th spot anyday! |
Andi
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... Maindog -- I think with the time we have had to wait lets hav it all 4th, league and fa cup and thats just for this season  |
Damian
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... Pancho Villan the holy grail is 1st 4th isn't even automatic qualification for the chumps league |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... It's the Holy Grail - MON said so. And why do you think it is virtually impossible to break into the top four ? And despite having some of the worst players in their history, Liverpool are still big favourites to retain their top four status ? It is because top four is the Holy Grail, that's why. |
Marcus Smith
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... I have a ticket for Wembley. We purchased Cat. 3, and it is clearly labelled at £54. How come, according to the Wembley layout, our block (133) is in Cat. 2? Please somebody help. |
whitey09
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... as i walked 2 villa park 1 dark & dusty day,i spied a poor old city fan trying 2 run away,i said to that poor city fan its time 4 u 2 die cos they av seen the glory of.............. the holteenders in the sky!!!!!!!!!! yippee iiiiiiiaaaaaaa yippiiii iiiiiiiiooooooo holte enders in the sky we chased them through the terraces we chased them through the street,i said 2 that poor city fan that death wud b he's fate,cos villa fans rule b'ham and city fans know y, cos they av seen the glory of.................the holte enders in the sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yippeeee iiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaa yippeeeee iiiiiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooo holte enders in the sky utv sotc |
Damian
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... Pancho Villan top four is not the holy grail. if martin o'neill said top four is the holy grail then he is wrong winning the league is the holy grail. if you believe everything o'neill says and to use a pun, take it as gospel, then you'll be happy if we finish 8th and win nothing, because o'neill will spin that, in the end, as acceptable |
whitey09
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... chiefy mate its not new just all u yungens dont know how 2 sing it right ya queer lol and thats only part of it not the full version but u try getting people 2 sing that properly 1st lol |
whitey09
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... the oridinal goes sumat like this .............. As I walked out at Villa Park one dark and dusty day, I spied a poor old blues fan he was running far away, I said to that poor city fan it looks like you might die, Cos You have seen the Glory of Holte Enders in the sky Yippee eye aye, Yippee eye oooh, Holte Enders in the sky, We chased him through the terraces, we chased him out the gate, Little did he know that death was soon to be his fate, He only had one hour to live and then he’d hear the cry That every city fan does fear, Holte Enders in the sky, Yippee eye aye, Yippee eye oooh, Holte Enders in the sky, Their fists where just like granite and their pockets full of lead, And when they catch a city fan, you know he’ll end up dead Cos Villa fans rule Birmingham and city fans know why, They’ve all heard and they’ve all seen Holte Enders in the sky, Yippee eye aye, Yippee eye oooh, Holte Enders in the sky, just 4 u chiefy xxxx lol |
whitey09
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... yep its quality,sorry if it offended any pc's out there but hey its football not politics |
whitey09
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... and besides if its violence then id of just got chiefy 2 try & sing it wen he's ad a few stella,that wud b enuf 2 stir up ww3 lol |
Jord
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... I'm so gutted that i'm not going on Sunday. During my lifetime Villa have won two cups but I was too young to remember any of it. Being born in 1993 I've missed a lot of the glory days of the Villa. It'd be mint to see us win some silverwear - much more so than finishing 4th, drawing Valencia in the qualifying rounds and get knocked out with nothing to show for it. But yeah I'd kill to go on Sunday. Ah well, life's a bitch & then you marry one, eh? |
Andi
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... Whitey i am offended you big queen Villa_Chris -- he is a pansy anyway dont worry about that,  |
Tim Wood
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...the holy grail is 1st Damian Did you realise that the winner of the Europa League gets a 'Chumps League' qualification spot? More importantly, if that winner is Liverpool, Everton or Fulham then only the top 3 positions in the Premiership will gain qualification to the 'Chumps League'! |
paul
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... Come on DAMIAN, I spent have the season working on my betting thread on the forum and you've just removed the whole thing with no warning. Could you at least reply to my email asking for a copy of the thread? Its the only record of the bets I have and I know there were a few people following it! |
Damian
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... PMR there was 3 weeks notice and when i finish what i am doing - trying to retrieve that thread for you is on a list of things for me to do |
Darragh McGeown
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... LukeYoung Both games kick-off at 8pm on Wednesday 24 February and will be free to watch on www.TheFA.com/fatv to viewers in the United Kingdom and Ireland only.From the FA website. |
Tim Hillman
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...Did you realise that the winner of the Europa League gets a 'Chumps League' qualification spot? More importantly, if that winner is Liverpool, Everton or Fulham then only the top 3 positions in the Premiership will gain qualification to the 'Chumps League'! Is that true??? |
jk92923
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... hey chaps! got tickets for the final on Sunday but no idea where the best spot to stay overnight would be? any suggestions? holiday inns or e-taps?? appreciate any help...! |
David
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... CSM, mate if that were true what would be the point of struggling for 9 months through 38 games to get 4th? When, by qualifying for the Europa league & winning 17 odd games gets you an automatic tilt at the Champions League!! Nobody would go for 4th & choose the easier option, especially if you're a good cup team!  |
Tim Hillman
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...CSM, mate if that were true what would be the point of struggling for 9 months through 38 games to get 4th? Thats what I thought, why do people post stuff that blatently isn't true!!! |
Alex Glynn
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... I've been saved by a mate of mine who's taking me to the final is things work out! I mean we're in the manc end and technically the rule's no club tops, but i'm sure they won't care! On the subject of tops damian - I won a t-shirt a few weeks back and I don't think it's arrived, just wondering if it's on its way? Hoping for a slightly rested team [Delf, delph, davies? no milner, perhaps no downing but that's tricky] to massacre CP tonight. hopefully in the 1st half as that's all I can watch! 7-2 prediction. Here we go then! Apart from the final, lucks been against me this week, so here's to us getting two great wins in our next two matches. ;] |
Alex Glynn
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... Oh no, JC villa, that's such a shame... ;] Let's hope Rooney catches the flu too. |
Andy Scarborough
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... PMR/Damian; perhaps a Villa Bets thread could be put up here somehow? I was following it along with villa_chris. PMR's approach opened my eyes to the sometimes obvious value to be found. Maybe PMR could post a weekly read only article or something? Hole Enders in the Sky - now that's a song. It's a statement of who we are, no violence intended I'm sure! |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...PMR/Damian; perhaps a Villa Bets thread could be put up here somehow? I was following it along with villa_chris. PMR's approach opened my eyes to the sometimes obvious value to be found. Maybe PMR could post a weekly read only article or something As a gambling man myself i can't believe that i didn;t know about this. I think it would be good addition to this blog. |
fastbackace
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... f**k, the fa site is only for the uk, and my villa streems hasnt been working for a few weeks. and no response from the streams techies.... any help anyone? |
Andy Scarborough
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... fastbackace, I have found the only streams that work well are the ones where you have to download Veetle. I watch at work and I am very conscious of network security, and we use Apple OS on our computers, Safari being my browser of choice. I hope that helps. Otherwise spend the evening (afternoon?) on here enjoying the chat and news. |
Andy Scarborough
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... ak_27, maybe the forum would still exist if more of us popped in for a look now and then. PMR's Villa Bets thread was a cracker! Into profit from day 1, book stood at 120% when I last looked. |
Chris Harper
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... I don't really like forums.... too many different rooms/posts. Better just to chat in here in my opinion. |
doubledown9
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... Winning the Europa does not grant champions league qualification. It guarantees entry into the Europa league regardless of league position for the following season. If UEFA had any balls whatsoever they would have granted CL qualification to the EL winners and removed the 'parachute payments' of allowing beaten CL teams to enter the EL at the knockout stage. Thus weakening the glass celing of the top 4 by allowing teams like Villa to take the EL seriously. If all you get out of it is EL qualification you might as well sack it off and use the 17 games to focus on the league as winning 17 extra games will at the very least secure a Europa place for the following year and there is not the added travel time of going to Romania to use a Liverpool based example. Which could effect league form, resulting in missing out on Europe the following season as winning the EL is not easy. To go back to a liverpool based example; they will most likley face Fenerbache away in the first leg of the RO16. Not a easy tie at all. As far as I can see the only advantage is qualification as it attracts players. There is little point in actually playing in the thing. As Man City have shown; other than CL football the real carrot for a top class player is money. The EL is a sideshow, the only purpose it serves is to soften the blow for any of the chosen brands unfortunate enough to have a bad year. |
Chris Harper
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... Good observations Doubledown9. I am actually glad we never got into the Europa league properly this season. I would rather concentrate purely on domestic cups and the league. |
Villatx
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... Fastback where are you in the states? I know of some websites that list good places to catch a game back home I always use villa streams here in Austria and back in the states and are you using the villastreams player or the winamp player? |
John Samuels
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...I am actually glad we never got into the Europa league properly this season. I would rather concentrate purely on domestic cups and the league. I'll say that I agree with us doing so well this season in the domestic competitions due to not having a european distraction, but I disagree that the competition is worthless. There are several teams that have win the UEFA and gone on to have success in the CL the following season, Porto being the obvious example. Rather than being a prestigious tournament to win, I feel it is a valuable opportunity to give younger players or players without a huge amount of european experience the chance to play against european teams away from home. Not only is this an advantage when learning how the european game differs from the EPL, but also everything that goes with travelling away from home in europe and the way this will help players development and belief in themselves. The europa is good prearation for the CL and should we miss the top four this season I would like to think MoN will go and try to win that tournament next season, especially if we bag a trophy this time around. All of the tournaments available to us have their own pro's and cons. The league cup is the lesser but would be valuable to us right now considering we've haven't won anything for so long. It will instill confidence and belief in what is a young impressionable side which may kick on well if we can win it. The FA Cup is the most prestigious domestic cup competition in the world and to win it would not only bring the same benefits of winning the league cup, but also may help us win over more support, the interest of better players and raise our profile nationally and internationally, especially if the victory were against a large club in the final. The CL offers all these thing, recognition, kudos, confidence, but the reall attraction is the financial windfall generated that may help us klick on more dramatically than winning anything else. If we made it out of the group stage the benefits would be extraordinary. All these competitions have benefits due to the fact that we are where we are right now. I am not willing to right off any tournament because it is 'worthless' it is unfortuante we went out of europe so early this season, but we are doing well despite it. Lets just hope we can win something, anything and i'll be quite happy. We aren't a big club yet and imo can't afford to pick and choose. |
Jared
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... Fastback If you go through a proxy server, the FA website will see your IP address as based in the UK. You should be able to watch no problem. I use this one.. www.freeproxyserver.net |
runtingz
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... i think we should have a better idea of how good our squad is after tonite and just how useful are backup players really are but i think we will win tonite even though it will be a real battle out there come on the villans |
Greg
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... some interesting comments about champions league versus trophy winning. I for one think that as a club we need champions league qualification as its money thats needs to progress as a club these days. David villa wont sign if we win a league clun or van dar vaart wont piss his pants if we win the fa cup!! Id love us to win the cup and make the fa cup final if we can dodge chelsea till the final at least. Damien you are right 1st is the holy grail, but for the top 4 clubs who can realistically mount a serious challenge, the holy grail for us at where we are as a club in our current state of development we too must see 4th as the holy grail. The holy grail gave youth and eversalting life, well as a club champions league money could do the same for us. Remember as kids when you used to collect premier league stickers for your merlin album, it used to give the honurs of every club, well we need to start improving our honours as our recent history is piss poor for a club our size, i guess silverwar and champs league status are nealy on par these days with the money involved. its a bit sad for football but we have to keep up and progress into that mould. |
jk92923
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... i think its on ITV tonight lads..... or anyone from ireland, i think its on Setanta Ireland... |
Andy Scarborough
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... If the two European competitions were run as a league with two divisions there would need to be promotion long with demotion. Currently a club can be relegated to the EL from the CL, there is currently no reciprocity with promotion. We would need to be vigilant however, if this were introduced it could be the thin end of the wedge that leads us to a European super league of some sort. Already the EPL has had a detrimental effect on the finances of domestic football. Not just in the lower divisions, look at Pompey and others with massive debt. It would be hopeless to expect the European competitions to rein back and reduce the number of clubs and games in their competitions, Pandora's box is open and all Hope has escaped. The game today would be unrecognisable to a visitor from half a century ago, imagine how it will look fifty years from now. |
whitey09
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... just a quick reminder 4 all of u who wanted a ticket 4 the pre match party at silverspoons wembley,they will b on sale in the adventurers pub queens rd from 6.30 but they will b going quick. utv |
Damian
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... cheeky bet on west brom, cska moscow, spurs and villa at 8/1 wont come in. but would be nice |
Carl Main
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... Winning tonight will give the boys a psychological advantage for the cup final on Sunday. Knowing they are still in another cup with potential for another final kind of takes a little importance off it. Not that im saying it isnt important but it sort of isnt the be all and end all if we win tonight! |
James
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... Right, I'm off to change the world one coffee morning at a time. (Hopefully, will catch us t**tting them in the 2nd half) Have a good one, people. By the way, Whitey/Chiefy/Villa Chris I enjoyed that little exchange. |
fastbackace
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... thanks guys. im going to download veetle today. the villastreams wont let me log in, saying it cannot connect, and im from california, west coast of the states. but ill try the proxy too. nice to say, ive only missed 1 game all year, it would be soo much more without ur guys help. thanks. and thanks for the happy 21st bday wishes. if i could remember how i spent it id tell u... lol. cheers! UTV |
Daniel Wilson
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... What are the odds on Villa winning team of the year at the next Sports personality?!! FA CUP, LEAGUE CUP + THE 4TH CHAMPIONS LEAGUE PLACE! i'd put a fiver on it. I cant afford a tenner bloody E-on |
Confused Football Fan
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... That Holte enders song is embarassing. Lets stick to singing songs about how great our team is, not about killing people who support other teams. Thugs and cretins shouldnt be associated with football in any form, but sadly theres too many idiots around. |
Damian
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... Guzan, Young, Dunne, Cuellar, Warnock Webcam, Milner, Delph, Downing, Carew, Agbonlahor. less than 5 seconds ago |
Damian
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... BENCH Sidwell, Delfouneso, Davies, Heskey, Beye, Collins, Friedel rests for 4 players - good move by o'neill |
Andy Scarborough
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... If we kept thugs and cretins out of the game who would be playing it? The idea of the song is to cow the opposition, not to actually murder them. |
Josh
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... Good strong team. Be nice to see the king at CB again and delph to get a snother start. Hope to get a few goals by half time and bring the fonz on for gabby and maybe sidwell for milner. |
Martin Laursen
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... Nice to see a few changes, but it would have been even better to see Nathan and beye in there too. |
Jared
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... Everyone outside the UK can watch by using this UK proxy server: http://proxify.co.uk Enter this into the search bar: www.TheFA.com/fatv |
Josh
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... Got a feeling Carew is gonna have one of those unstoppable days today. Carew 2, Young 1, 3-0 |
Eoin Greene
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... For the first time ever - can I say - absolutely delighted with MoN's team selection. I really think Delph is the business and he just needs games. |
Damian
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... Well - my bets are now all off after the first game. I think it is time for a beer. Is anyone going to actually go to the Sports Cafe on Saturday? |
Andy Scarborough
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... Oh, Damian, after your most generous offer I am sure you will see all of us, plus our cousins at the Sports Café. Trust me, I will be there. |
Eoin Greene
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... after praising the starting team - i now need to complain about soomething.....why have three centerhalf's, only one midfielder and no winger on the bench? |
dominic elmer
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... I've booked the weekend off work so I will be in the sports bar about 12 to watch the Chelsea game. not got a ticket for sunday but am going to watch it in silverspoons. next best thing I guess. see you all on sat! |
fastbackace
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... anyone recen a bid for stephan ireland in the summer... just an idea. sell the shitwell. |
Nik Skilton
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... anyone with a ps3? you can watch the game on your tv through that... technology is amazing!! |
david gabbey
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... well done fa (so far) a stream that actually works and lets me watch on my tv through ps3. Im happy now |
robb david
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... BENCH Sidwell, Delfouneso, Davies, Heskey, Beye, Collins, Friedel rests for 4 players - good move by o'neill He hasnt actually rested anyone that matters, milner, young, gabby and downing are the players that need the rest. Its a poor decision from o-neill, and for me it shows he lacks the bottle to make bold decisions, and prioritise games. Maybe its because we berated him for the uefa cup, but we dont need to be that strong to get through this match, and we are going to see a tired side on sunday. |
George Templeton
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... I like this lineup. I would love to see that defensive lineup on Sunday. 3-1 to the Villa. |
scott harwood
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... good call ronrabbit thought the same.milner and gabby are a bad call imo gabbys carrying a knock and milners on his last legs.weve got enough without those 2 to beat palace ffs,with fletcher rested we needed milner at full pace aswell.anyway cmon the villa |
Nik Skilton
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... my team for sunday: Friedel Young Dunne Cuellar Warnock Petrov Delph Young Milner Downing Agbonlahor Bench: Guzan, Collins, Fonz, Carew, Albrighton, Beye, Heskey |
Jeppe Lyhne
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... All black screen for me. Anyone else outside UK having problems with the FA stream? |
fastbackace
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... sadly i have the new adobe, and i used the proxy, but its just a black page... :"( |
Damian
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... I think someone posted a link to a proxy server above - not sure how long it will work for you though |
Andy Scarborough
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... Danish - someone posted a link for a proxy server which will "trick" the FA site into thinking that you're in the UK. |
Simon Mansfield
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... The link Villa4life11 post works a treat for those of you outside the UK. Go to http://www.atdhe.net/13838/wat...tal-palace |
Simon Mansfield
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... Blimey! Nice build up play for that Carew effort!! Don't see that too often. Looks like we're playing with them. |
pepsi head
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... is it me or has milner been crap since xmas and the fa.com picture is a load crap!!stops every minute  |
Dan Clinton
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... I'm currently in New Zealand, can anyone link me to a website to watch the match today? Can't watch it on the FA site due to geographical location! Help!! |
Damian
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... the fa showing this match is just about them been able to understand how much money is potentially in it for them by starting to stream on a more regular basis the stream tonight isn´t going to be great because they are not going to have spent the money on it just yet ... within a few seasons though you will be able to legally pay per view any match you want online and the quality will be fantastic |
VillaDude
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... We have had about 6 really good chances.... We need heskey!? did i just say that? |
Dan Clinton
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... Fastbackace: Did I not say that I can't use the FA site because I'm in NEW ZEALAND? Grrrr, very unhelpful |
Cian Donaghy
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... im gonna keep saying it, get cuellar in the centre and drop collins! much better in the centre and the right, better balance! |
Jonathan Willier
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... nik986 oh nothing, just had a 2 on none with Carew in front of goal and passed the ball to the corner flag like it was on fire. |
Lord Vogra
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... anytime Palace have a corner it scares me to death...the only way these are going to score against us is a corner or a freekick, they ain't good enough to break us down |
fastbackace
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... fenian: this site u tool http://www.atdhe.net/13838/wat...tal-palace it was 2 boxes above mine. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... I've flipfloped Guzan can't play in the final I'll swear his ears are starting to grow like a rabit. |
Simon Mansfield
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... Shite - The stream went down for a couple of minites. Who scored? What happened? |
Andy Scarborough
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... Slightly better than last game, slightly worse than we would like to see this game. UTV |
Dan Clinton
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... Well.... That's what happens when I dont bother to read the 150 comments before I made my query Many thanks Djongrass! |
Cian Donaghy
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... if iraw or atdhe.net keep going off on you try this. http://www.p2p4u.net i got the burnley game there too. its not perfect but im happy with it! |
adam
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... what a great stream shame iraq goals aint like this one milnermom so far for me guzans a great shot stopper but he scares the shit out of me coming off his line(or not coming off it) |
robb david
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... delph looks f**kin crap. He is horribly one footed, he always wants to long on the ball, his passes are normally behind the man, and he keeps playing people into trouble. He is a long long way from premiership quality. Guzan is having a poor game as well, i like him normally but today has been shite, which is making me question him for the final. I was in his favour untill know. Any chance of some changes? giving some players a rest that they clearly need. Oh sorry o-neill is in charge, maybe we will see sidwell and delfouneso in 87th miniute. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...b30 villain said: The man is a bunny |
tim1707
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... I've just been on the villa web site and the clock is ticking down for us to play Hull on saturday..............HELLO......... |
robb david
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... the fa stream is working perfectly for me. really really good actually much better than the usual shite you get on iraq goals and atdhe |
Car Frost
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... That was never a corner.. I like to think of it as karma because Neil Warnock is such a p***k. |
Martin Clabon
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... we're battering them really, shame about the finishing Little Brad and Delph not had their best halves, stiil chance to get it right after the break. 3 quick goals then 3 quick subs please after the break |
Eoin Greene
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... Couldn't disagree more with those criticising Delph - himself and Milner have completely dominated this game. As for all the Gabby bashers - how many goals is that now?? 14? |
robb david
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... ... That was never a corner.. I like to think of it as karma because Neil Warnock is such a p***k. I know, all we will here after this game is how it wasnt a courner, forgeting we had a blatent penalty turned down, and their thug forward should have been sent off in the last match for a clear elbow. As we all know though, its not penalties and ppl being sent off that changes games, its courners beign awarded to the wrong team. |
Andy Scarborough
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... ronrabbit, I thought Delph was doing alright. He's maybe not up to the standard we'd prefer right now but next year he will be immense I'm sure. |
robb david
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... Couldn't disagree more with those criticising Delph - himself and Milner have completely dominated this game. Milner has been fabulous, he is dominating the game, Delph offers nothing, he doesnt challenge for the ball, he wants to long on the ball when he has it, he is to lightweight, he is terribly one footed, and his passes are poorly weighted and genrally behind the player he aims at. he does look a bit like ashley young though, which may be confusing the palace defence |
Martin Clabon
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... eoin and Andy, normally agree with most of what you both say but not today, Delph messed up completely the 2 good opportunities or situations he had and done little else. I normally like him though so expecting much better in 2nd half |
ChicoHamiltonsPants
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... ronrabbit i hope sidwell doesn't get on the M6 never mind the pitch hes that bad!!!!!! |
Aaron Wilson
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... ronrabbit, Thats harsh. I thought he was playing fairly well to be honest! Hes composed on the ball, hast given the ball away, and i dont have a clue what your on about that hes always playing people into trouble. His passes have been fine, and if there not on he turns the player and looks for a different one. UTV! |
fastbackace
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... agreed. its ok for delph to be a little below par. rather it be this game than sunday. next year he'll come good. or at least better. guzan will come good with time. |
doubledown9
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... Dont know if you guys saw Guzan, Sidwell and The Fonz warming up against Burnley, but he (Guzan) has close control that many outfield players could learn from. The look of surprise on Sidwell's face was priceless as Guzan was killing passes smacked at him from about ten yards with a single touch. Not really an opinion on his ability with crosses, more a random observation. |
fastbackace
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... maybe sub gabby off in ten if were still up... how about it mon... all 3 subs today...? |
fastbackace
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... i think warnock has been off hit game quite a bit tonight. the 20 min iv seen. |
erik
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... Delph has been decent, Looks good on the ball at times but has made some mistakes. I'd still rather him than Sidwell. |
Andy Scarborough
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... That's twice now that Warnock has put the ball out for a corner. Does Guzan actually have a voice? Or are they just not talking? |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Guzan is growing big ears, has a fluffy tail, and is starting to hop. The man needs assertiveness training |
Cian Donaghy
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... good shout scotty1, hes been excellent in the middle all season think gabby has been very good too. he's really showing is strength |
ads
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... Guzan is not up to it at the moment - I've said it before and I'll say it again. He is weak under crosses and does not command the area - 2 critical skills for keeping. He'll cost us eventually - final or semi or whatever - he will. |
Andy Scarborough
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... Pancho - all I can think of now is a nice rabbit stew with swede and carrots, maybe some dumplings too. |
Andy Scarborough
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... villadude - yes, now I do. Last season I shuddered every time he got into a one on one. He's getting better and better. |
VillaDude
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... Hes missed 2 today, Young just made the keeper actually work with a defender infront of him... Hes just not a natural finisher |
Dave
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... I can't remember hearing a more critical commentator than Ray Houghton - he moans about absolutely everything |
Andy Scarborough
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... It's end to end stuff here at Villa Park. The clichés are flying. Villa definitely need another goal. |
Aaron Wilson
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... Jesus.. Gabby really cant finish for his dinner. He needs to learn to take the right up to the keeper in which case he can beat him or just side foot it past him. He always hits it as soon as he gets control of it, he needs more composure. |
VillaDude
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... Warnock has been shocking in both games against palace... Gabby missed chances gonna haunt us? |
Greg
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... warnock you f**king clown, if you had squared to carew in the first half we would be 2 up and comfortable, u f**king clown |
Damian
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... Cant believe we have let them back into this. Why oh why did we start to sit back - now we have to find momentum again when it would have been so much easier to have just continued what we had in the first half. First half was very good. Second half has been typical so far. We need to find what we had in the first half again. |
Simon Mansfield
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... Well, damon you were right, we had started to sit back and let them back into it!! Sometimes you get what you deserve! Bring on all the subs, lets finish 'em off!!! |
marty
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... come on people....the first goal should have never been given as a corner.... this is karma.... warnock is having a nightmare... we will win this anyways |
Andy Scarborough
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... Calm down lads, we're to good for this lot. It's a proper run-out before the final, just what MoN would have wished for! LOL |
scott harwood
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... whats even worse villadude is milners still on working himself into the ground!!! |
fastbackace
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... not sidders!!! im convinced mon doesnt wanna win this game, im convinced he doesnt think about fitness level.  |
Aaron Wilson
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... aww f**k no! what possible impact will he make. He might score a long range goal after 5 other attempts i suppose... |
Cian Donaghy
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... we didnt sit back what are you on about?! i thought we approached it just right. just a bad game from warnock and another error. cant blame the team, theyve played well, these things happen now and then |
scott harwood
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... does anyone know who the fitness guy is down vp.either he doesnt have a clue or mon doesnt listen to him. |
swissvilla
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... shit game....the players don't have a rest and now overtime.... on sunday we will lose... |
McParland
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... There have been a few tonight who have not been up for the game .why have they let palace score and then decide to respond instead of driving foward for a second or third when they were one up.To many not wanting to get injured due to sundays coming game ,which they will surely lose if the comittment against MU is not tremendously improved. |
Cian Donaghy
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... haha carew plays the fans like a pack of mugs and they all fall for it everytime... |
Jonathan Willier
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... You can certainly tell Downing has some confidence after his double on Sunday. What a shot that was! -Big John Carew! You big sweet Norwegian you! Bring on the Baggies! |
Darragh McGeown
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... Good result. Downing has looked very lively tonight. Maybe hitting some form for the Carling Cup final  |
Simon Mansfield
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... Good game, never in doubt! ...and an excellent reminder of why we all love John Carew so much! Still want to sell him in the summer? |
Car Frost
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... I sang the Big John song twice and then felt a little bad about all of the shit he has been given lately.. when he feels like it it's hard to stop him. |
Cian Donaghy
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... yes get him out. im delighted of course, but this just shows how he can play and how often he isnt arsed no manager could ever motivate him |
Aaron Wilson
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... Celtic Villan Whats your problem with Carew? Why dont you believe that he genuinely loves Aston Villa! What has he ever done wrong. And dont say he went to a strip club etc etc, he was just out with his friend for a meal and a drink. But really, whats your problem? |
Darragh McGeown
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...yes get him out. im delighted of course, but this just shows how he can play and how often he isnt arsedI couldn't have said it better myself. Imagine where we would be if he could play like that regularly. Anyway, happy with the result and general play. |
Simon Mansfield
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... Stoke just went 2-1 up @ Man Shitty :-) Shame about the Spurs result though~ |
robb david
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... good result, but milner and gabby look real tired out their. Milner has had to do the work of two players most of the match, delph offers nothing when tracking back, poor championship players just walk past him. Petrov should be back for sunday though which is what matters. Once again no changes from o-neill, he is trying his best to run our players into the ground, its as if he hasn't learnt from last season. |
Cian Donaghy
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... aero, how often do you see him play like that? i used really like him, but im fed up with him, he cant be arsed most of the time. he plays well when he's bothered and creates that mist of hope that he will continue - but he never does dont get me wrong, he's really likable. but if we want to move forward we need a consistant striker no he plays fan, like you, for fools. im not trying to be insulting, its just how i see it. even all his comments in the media are so sickeningly pro fans. keep the hype going milner, now theres a dedicated player. he loves aston villa, and he's a true pro |
Devon Villan
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... it's the result that counts my boys! I'd like to say big thimbs up to the FA website, great to be able to watch the game and very few internet gliches Bring On Sunday |
Steve Badger
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... So, I went to the game. And got kicked out after about 30 mins for foul and abusive language. Our support is f**king shit, imo. I might expand more tomorrow, if i can be arsed. But let me say this again; Our support is f**king shit. |
robb david
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... Carew wasnt that good today, he was playing against really poor defenders. I really rate carew when he can be arsed, and maybe the two goals will kick him into gear. He has had some games where he is unplayable. One defender, i forget who, said he was the most difficult striker to play against baring drogba in the premier league. |
McParland
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... King Carloss was emmense tonightand i for one am glad the game is over cause it was edgy at times,Should have burried them in the first half instead of cruising at half speed.Fact remains though we have got through to the next round one way or another ; perhaps villas name is on the FA cup afterall. Just realy hope we come out on sunday in the final full throttle and totaly comitted in all departments also making sure we keep rooney well shackeled.. |
Cian Donaghy
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... thats a point andy. but if he stays, and we buy someone, delfouneso wont get enough looks. worse still, he stays, so we dont buy a striker... |
Darragh McGeown
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... Areo-4-Villa - Celtic Villian is not alone on this one. One decent performance doesn't make Carew untocuhable again. He's auite simply the laziest player I have ever seen in a Villa shirt. The problem is, we know he can play brilliantly went he wants to but the fact is - he doesnt try hard enough. |
doubledown9
said:
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... Looking at the replays I don't see how anyone can have a go at Warnock for the penalty. He gets pushed in the face and in the throws of going down catches the legs of their man, 9/10 in the Prem the striker gets booked for that. The cross to Carew, however!!!!!! 23 shots, 13 on target, enough for you Damo? Blimey 3-1 stoke!!!!! |
Rattus NorVillicus
said:
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...Badger said: Sorry to hear that Badger Looks like Barry is going to have another barren season by the way |
Aaron Wilson
said:
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... Someone consistent? He has a 1 in 3 goal ratio. Hes way more prolific than Gabby will ever be and brings way more to the team than Heskey does. Im certain all his comments and kissing of the crest etc is completely sincere. He loves Villa and many of the fans have forgot that as Heskey somehow manages to get in the team ahead of him. You may think hes lazy sometimes, but thats just fitness. Hes not gonna get any better sitting on the bench. given a proper run of games, he would be the complete striker! |
Rattus NorVillicus
said:
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... We'll pan Reading for sure It's looking like a cup double & 4th Poor old Barry |
Martin Clabon
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... Badger, shit in the ground, shit on here sometimes as well Reading it is then |
Steve Oldaker
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... sid, they will never change you will just have to accept thats how they are FICKLE |
Steve Badger
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...Sorry to hear that Badger Pancho, I've got the right arsehole, but am going to have another think about it, hence me not posting properly yet. I can unequivically(sp) say that our support is shit though. Shit with a capital S, trust me. |
Martin Clabon
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... Steveo, too true mate. I understand disappointment and being critical of poor performances but some of the spite about players and a manager who have taken us a long way this season is not great. Gabby, for instance, has been great this season - has some technical deficiencies but brings such a lot to the party and is so dangerous but he still gets slagged Ash has been playing great recently, senational player and tries difficult stuff. Every wide player in the world misses more crosses and shots than they try but people still have digs at him These players are our prize possessions annd we should treat them as such, not above criticism of course but keep it real |
Martin Clabon
said:
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... Churchill, if you're out there I need some inspiration for Sunday, what you got Nan, if you've finished trying to cop off with yummee mummy's, same goes for you |
Martin Clabon
said:
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... Badger, where were you sitting? I was in the North Stand on Sunday and must admit was pleasantly suprised, not like old times but better than I expected by far, even in first half By contrast in the Holte earlier in the season I had some guy telling me to sit down after standing up for about 15 seconds at kick off. He got both barrels, which was a bit too strong to be honest, but it's not the fcking ballet |
david mc gorrian
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... Sid man utd carling cup final thats all the inspiration you need.lets do the feckers. |
Steve Badger
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...Badger, shit in the ground, shit on here sometimes as well Sid, I'm utterly depressed atm. Getting kicked out has a bit to do with it, tbf. Where's the heart gone? Plastic, springs to mind. |
Martin Clabon
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... limerick, trust an Irish man to get it right. I'm just going to enjoy it on Sunday. If we lose we'll have given it all against a great team and somehow I'm feeling far more confident than usual in a run up to a game with Man Utd but whatever happens, I'm going to enjoy it - unless I see people on here spouting shite and then gloves come off - not that anyone will take any notice but you've got to do what you think is right |
John R
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... Yes!!!!!! two down now for sunday. Whats the goal count from the last two games 8 scored!!!!!. Having said that we did make life a bit difficult for ourselves tonight but thats the glory of the FA Cup. Yes we can UTV |
Martin Clabon
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... Tell you what Badger, if we start winning things it will get a whole lot more plastic - but you ain't gonna go wishing to be unsuccessful so what do you do? Don't forget, on good days it is still sensational at Villa Park. Also, many things have improved, facilities, access, no violence any more and secretly I quite like being able to sit down and take my 6 year old daughter without worrying about getting in to a ruck. We will only sound like old gets going on about the old days - it's gone now but you can stiil enjoy it even if you had a bad experience today Don't go to bed angry - you might wake up as Simeon. I'm off to bed, take care y'all |
david mc gorrian
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... Sid come sunday evening i might owe half of limerick a small fortune but and i say but until then ill take them all on, give them back worse and feck the begrudgers we are in the final and i for 1 intend to enjoy it,if by chance we lose feck it wel win the fa cup and if by chance we dont sure wel finish 4th.And if by chance none of the above happens well look feck it at least wer Villa fans. |
Martin Clabon
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... John R, people said at the start of this week what a big week it was and so far passed with flying colours. Biggest challenge yet to come, but who knows, maybe we will be smiling on the verge of becoming a successful club again |
Cian Donaghy
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... aero, listen, im not a huge heskey fan at all, but the majority of the time he gives his all, and has actually been quite good in 2010. notice an awful lot of the moaning about him has stopped? carew does nothing, or very little this season if he doesnt score - 1 in 3 for accounting for his performances is not good enough. 3 of them are penalties as well. gabby runs his arse off and works really hard. ok he doesnt look like a natural finisher and maybe he never will score a lot - but he's another that loves aston villa. as for carew, thats very naive of you, he's quite obviously using the fans to keep him at a club where he is an overpaid relative to his efforts also, im not saying he's a worse goalscorer - hes the best we have. but we need better. he doesnt work hard enough to warrent starting when he scores 1 in 4 from open play |
Steve Badger
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...Don't go to bed angry I am angry. But like I said I'll consider things again tomorrow It probably depends on how shit we were in the analysis. We should of course, won 6-0 against a shit first div team |
Steve Badger
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... Ah shit, let's get it right. I got kicked out for nothing at all to do with football. |
remolds1
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... any links to see the goals as just come in from work and they are showing nothing on sky |
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