Written by Damian Wednesday, 10 February 2010 09:54
Look at this match anyway you'd like, but with the League Cup Final just over two weeks away, this is very much a dress rehearsal. However, the result tonight will not have any impact on the result of the League Cup Final and I don't expect them to be the same over ninety minutes.
Dress rehearsals are used to iron out any last minute glitches and to make sure that everyone knows their lines. You see, with dress rehearsals, the director, in this case Martin O'Neill, will always find a problem or two and he'll always find things to be done a little bit differently and better.
So, to our dress rehearsal and I was talking to someone last night who predicted we'd either get thrashed or play out the ninety minutes for a point. Basically, he couldn't see us beating Manchester United and to some extent, I am trying to set expectations at that level by mentioning it.
You see, tonight is very much about following a script and it very much focuses on centre halves, defending; full backs, stopping crosses and defending; midfielders, helping out at either end of the pitch and creating chances; and strikers, scoring them. Yes, I got that from here.
Bottom line, our script is a simple one to follow but it is new and we are playing with characters that maybe still need more time with it. It is also pointing out that the script Sir Alex Ferguson uses is also a simple one and that he has used many characters over the years and most of the time it has played out exactly how he would have liked.
The benefit to Martin O'Neill is that he has seen it play out many times and that is why I think we shouldn't be surprised that our script worked better against them this season.
Okay, before I start going round in circles, my point is, our script needs to be played out perfectly to beat Manchester United, but if it isn't tonight, don't be entirely surprised as I think with us playing again so soon, if there are any glitches or little problems, they will be fixed.
League Cup over League Position
So, if we lose tonight, we lose; would any of you really be surprised? Football is about winning silverware and we are not going to win the League but we could win the League Cup and I for one have put all my eggs in that basket.
Live updates, team news and some links
So, this is the match post and I will update with team news as and when we get it. In the meantime, there are a few more stories from around the web that are maybe not worth reading, but certainly worth knowing about. In some instances the titles will give the entire story away - I've done my best with a little description.
- Dwight Yorke asks for forgiveness - There are some things you just don't do I'm afraid. Great player for the club, but he crossed a line
- Cup Final ticket news - Basically, if you are a season ticket holder, get your ticket soon
- Carling Cup Final shirts - Order the Cup Final shirt here
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Andi
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... At last !!! We already had a dress rehersal on a patch we havent won on in years and we came out on top, and so we are tonight and the end of the month as someone said the first time we are going to do the treble of United !!!!  |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Very theatrical post today Damian. Reminded me a little of Sir Ian McKellen in Othello - somewhat overplayed. Far better methinks to stick to the one-game-at-a-time ethos. |
Damian
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... i think yorke has finally figured out that his status at manchester united is limited by the fact that he is one of a big bunch and his chances of getting something out of football after his career was over was at our club pity he crossed that line - he will never get what he was so close to getting for such a stupid mistake |
Martin Clabon
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... Yorke, great player for Villa but look how he left and where he ended up (Small Heath not Man U!) Could have been a real Villa legend, isn't, not sure he cares too much though |
Tim Hillman
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... Lets look on paper at the teams...player for player. GK - Van der Sar or Friedel (Both great keepers, van der sar probably just edges it) LB - Evra or Young - (Unfair as Young is a natural right back but Evra wins) CB - Dune or Vidic (To close to call) CB - Collins or Evans (I would go with Collins) RB - Cueller or Neville (I hate Neville) LW - Downing or Nani (Downing for his consistency) CM - Petrov or Anderson/ Fletcher (Petrov is a league above) CM - Milner or Carrick (Super James Milner) RW - Young or Valencia (Young on his day is a class act) S - Rooney or Heskey (Um tough one!  ) S - Berbatov or Carew (Berbatov is just as lazy but a much better player) Will be a tough game and I would say evenly matched. I think Man Utd has a match winner in Rooney! But if we keep him quiet we might be ok. |
Gallie
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... I think tonight’s game is a bit like the Blackburn sequence in January. They were not really bothered for the FA Cup 3rd round match because they wanted to win the semi final. We treated it like a game we could win and did, which gave us a good feeling of superiority going into the semis and I believe that it did play a big part psychologically in our preparation for the semis and during the games themselves. Imagine Man Ure come to VP tonight and win 3-0. Do you honestly think that this will not play on the players (of both teams) minds leading up to the Wembley game? In other words I think we have to have the cup final mentality tonight, as I believe Man Ure will, and really stick it to them and gain the upper hand for the cup final that way!!! UTV!!! |
Daniel Wilson
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... God seems to hate me right now, my girlfriend has walked out, I got a huge electricity bill, my cat died and so I expect Villa will lose tonight aswell just because the fat bearded git upstairs fancies another laugh at my expense. Come on Villa, I need a perk up. |
Andi
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...S - Rooney or Heskey (Um tough one! I know the MULE is good but surely rooney just edges it  |
Chris Harper
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...God seems to hate me right now, my girlfriend has walked out, I got a huge electricity bill, my cat died and so I expect Villa will lose tonight aswell just because the fat bearded git upstairs fancies another laugh at my expense. Christ.... Come on Villa! Don't let the lad down! |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Yorke doesn't have the right personality to ever be a coach or a manager. Its funny that i can forgive Barry but for some reason i know i will never forgive Yorke. Must have been down to the fact he was my fav footballer in the world until he joined the Utd scum pile. |
Andi
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...God seems to hate me right now, my girlfriend has walked out, I got a huge electricity bill, my cat died and so I expect Villa will lose tonight aswell just because the fat bearded git upstairs fancies another laugh at my expense. You sound like you need a trip to Carew's strip club never mind the VILLA winning |
Tim Hillman
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...God seems to hate me right now, I'm not sure you can blame Maradonna for all this!! |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...God seems to hate me right now, my girlfriend has walked out, I got a huge electricity bill, my cat died and so I expect Villa will lose tonight aswell just because the fat bearded git upstairs fancies another laugh at my expense Sorry to hear that mate. You should use this bad luck and put some money on Man Utd to win tonight. You might just jinx them. |
Martin Clabon
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... AK, Petrov from 30 yrds? Did JPA leave his claret and blue specs round at your house last night? Remember that goal from half way line against Derby in the 6-0 - happy days Villa Chris, having your sister walk out on you like that must be a kick in the teeth - sorry that's keef's job. Hope your luck turns soon fella CSM - no Gabs? Is he injured? |
Martin Clabon
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... Does anyone know what happens points wise if Portsmouth get wound up? I seem to remember Liverpool lossing to them so if points get cancelled out this is a real pisser???? |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...I seem to remember Liverpool lossing to them so if points get cancelled out this is a real pisser???? I was trying to think how the others got on againest Pompy. That would eb just typical. I hope for the sake of football they don't get wound up. Surely a compromise can be found? |
Andi
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...Surely a compromise can be found they investigate some of harrys transfers surely there is a couple of million knocking around in them that shouldnt have been paid out that would keep them going for a bit |
paul mclafferty
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... i dont think a premier club will be wound up, it cant be, just think if it happens once then the snow ball effect this will have!! oh and damian, i read somwhere but cant find, that villa are ready to post losses of 7.3million for the last year, |
Andi
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...i dont think a premier club will be wound up, it cant be The money pompey owe is to the state so could we have the first nationalised football team ?? |
Martin Clabon
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... Yeah, Harry has blood on his hands if Portsmouth get wound up. I know others are supposed to provide checks and balances but this guy not only spends big but in questionable ways as well, hence a great big house in Monte Carlo Can you imagine if it was Villa going out of business - it would be 2nd only to friends and family dying in terms of impact. This is not being over dramatic - the Portsmouth fans are good honest fans (if a bit tastey on occasions)and if they get wound up it will be carastrophic to thousands of people I would far rather lose my job than club, I can get a new job |
paul mclafferty
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... i honestly think the gravy train has hit the buffers!!! it will be welcome back to the mid eighties with 14k crowds the norm! |
Martin Clabon
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... Chiefy you joke but if Banks can be supported why not Football clubs? It would be wrong but no more barking mad than State owning banks I don't believe htey will go out of business because the guy who has stepped in to take ownership off the back of a clause on his loan will get wiped out and I believe he has money can bring to bear if necessary Also what would the Prem League do - golden image tarnished big time so I expect a rabbit will be pulled out of the hat last minute Not impossible we will be down to 19 EPL clubs though |
Andi
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...the guy who has stepped in to take ownership off the back of a clause on his loan will get wiped out and I believe he has money can bring to bear if necessary the future is still not very bright, this guy has made it clear he wants to flog the club on as soon as he can. I wouldnt be at all happy if I was a pompey fan, HARRY and that Storrie must take some blame somewhere how can the goverment let institutions like football clubs get into this mess ?? |
Andi
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... Also isn't there a fit a proper person interview with the FA ?? who is doing these interviews ?? PINGU cause who ever is doing them obviously isnt very good, Man City with that bloke then palace with briatore and now pompey with all 3, 4 of there owners. The fit and proper person interview obviously needs to be changed or the interviewer needs to be trained properly |
Martin Clabon
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... Chiefy, fit and proper just means not yet in jail It is sad but true that a lot of (most?) rich people are not very nice underneath the surface - that's how they got to be rich in a lot of cases. As Alexie Sayle once said poor people have to be nicer than rich people because you never know when you might need to borrow someones van |
Andi
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... I have to have a fit and proper person interview for my job and its intense the same should be done for this people that are running football clubs. No wonder the country is in such a mess |
Steve Badger
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...Does anyone know what happens points wise if Portsmouth get wound up? Usual 10 point reduction and then some other crook buys them for a £1 isn't it? I do for sorry for Pompey fans. As Alexie Sayle once said poor people have to be nicer than rich people because you never know when you might need to borrow someones van As for Yorke, no forgiveness from me. Am I the only one who remembers him playing midfield under BFR and he was frankly rubbish? Kissing the badge was bad enough, but what was it he said, the scum are a bigger club than Villa or something  As ak said, he can f**k right off! |
Steve Badger
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...I have to have a fit and proper person interview for my job Hey Chiefy, will you be adding your hobby of touring city centres late at night to your C.V? |
paul mclafferty
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... dwight yorke has no morals or eticate, but what do you expect when you pluck a bare footed peasant and try to educate it? take the man out from the jungle but you cant take the jungle out the man..or is that tarzan im thinkin of |
Car Frost
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...God seems to hate me right now, my girlfriend has walked out, I got a huge electricity bill, my cat died and so I expect Villa will lose tonight aswell just because the fat bearded git upstairs fancies another laugh at my expense. Is that Dan Wilson of 82 Stone Street? I've god some bad news for you son, could you please contact the tax office asap! Sorry Dan couldn't resist! Same old thing with Man U.. don't give them the respect that was earnt by Man U teams of old and you've got a fair shot, what Fulham did to them at home was a prime example of not caring who is in the current lineup ( with the exception of Rooney ). I fancy we be on the wrong end of a 2 - 0 tonight and will probably hide behind teletext to numb the pains, really hope I'm wrong. |
Andi
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...Hey Chiefy, will you be adding your hobby of touring city centres late at night to your C.V? SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!! |
Alex meaden
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... Alrite lads i fancy the mighty villa to nick it 1-0 tonight no doubt alot of possesion 4 united alot of defending 4 us and a second half goal 4 gabby 2 be the hero again, cant beleive its not on the box anyone know anywhere 2 watch it on the net |
paul mclafferty
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... chelt... if you know any pub with italian sky or arabic then it will be on there as my local has it on.. |
Tim Hillman
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...take the man out from the jungle but you cant take the jungle out the man..or is that tarzan im thinkin of No need to get racist Paul! |
Martin Clabon
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... Badger, 10 point deduction is for Administation. What Portsmouth may be facing is winding up or liquidation. This means Portsmouth would no longer exist. The question was if this happens (and I hope it won't) what happens to the points taken in games against Portsmouth which would potentially benefit Liverpool who I believe lost against Portsmouth |
Daniel Wilson
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...Is that Dan Wilson of 82 Stone Street? Thanks for giving me a fooking heart attack, I live in a village called Stone, I can't take anymore crap right now!!! |
Steve Badger
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... Chelt, It should be available; http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast....art=sports Badger, 10 point deduction is for Administation. What Portsmouth may be facing is winding up or liquidation. This means Portsmouth would no longer exist. I see what you mean. In that case, you'd expect all their games to become void. It won't come to that though, no chance. They'd bust every club in the other 3 divisions rather than let the Premier league be shown up for the shambles that it is. Utterly disgraceful, what's going on and you have to wonder when someone is going to actually do something about. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Why don't Pompy just sell next seasons' season tickets right now? Surely if the fans want to keep the club those that could afford to pay it would do so. I know it would only be putting it off for a few more months but at least the club would still exist. |
Tim Hillman
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...Why don't Pompy just sell next seasons' season tickets right now? Good Idea but lets say for example they sell 10,000 season tickets now for next season at £400 each (Very unlikely) this would only get them 4 Million. This would pay John Utaka's salary for 40 weeks!!! If Utaka is on 80 grand a week, players like David James and Kanu will also be on big wages. This would be like a drop in the ocean on the whole scheme of things. No wonder they are in trouble. |
Steve Badger
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... Just reading the story on Yahoo. What's this about? League Two club Notts County were given an extension last month which allowed them time to look for new investors I thought their owners were supposed to be minted? I thought it strange that everyone has walked out on them and it seems that they are just another fly-by-night outfit. They won't be happy until they have their European league imo |
Steve Badger
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...Why don't Pompy just sell next seasons' season tickets right now? Would you pay for games there's absolutely every chance you won't get to watch? |
Steve Badger
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...No wonder they are in trouble. Yeah. It puts this "throw more money at it" attitude in perspective, doesn't it? |
Steve Badger
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...any fan to say otherwise is a fool In that case, I'm a fool. And Yorke is a tool. |
Greg
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... ya badger it is, and also put how many league, fa cup and champions league medals did he win, sure i remember the papers, he practiaclly forced his way out in the end , but we were going nowhere and its hard for any1 to turn down man utd, The man scored class goals for us and was with the club 9 years i think, some fans need to get perspective and applaud what people have done for the club, and we got 12 mill which wasnt bad at the time |
Steve Badger
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...i forgive barry now too how do u like that one and i mean it I think you have a basic misunderstanding of what a Villa legend is mate. Any real Villa legend doesn't make sideways comments that are aimed against his old club. Yes, Yorke was a good player for us, but he'll never be regarded the same as the likes of God, Mortimer, Cowans and Morley, to name a few, in my eyes. And to talk himself up as a future manager, well that says it all. He's a finished footballer and that's it. As for Barry, well I haven't forgiven him yet, but I probably will. He never bad-mouthed the club, see? how do u like that Grow up. |
StickyAV
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... I am with Greg Davillain on this one. A lot of supporters are like big girls. "Oooh he said he wanted to leave for a bigger better club, how dare he, I hate him". People need to remember this is peoples careers. If you were offered more money, more benefits, and more fame, and get to ply your trade at the very top level of your field - you would take it too. These people don't start of supporting villa. Even so, I supported villa from a very young age and had trials for them at 12. Had I gone on to become a world class player I don't think I would have thought twice about going to the best and biggest club in the world for more money, if it was offered. I'd still support Villa. But i'd play at the highest level possible, with the best players possible. Yorke did more than enough for Villa, as did Barry. Stevie G won't put up with it at Liverpool if it continues either. Mark my words. And he is playing at one of the biggest clubs in the world already. |
Tim Hillman
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... I don't really begrudge any players leaving. It might be frustrating for fans but at the end of the day there is no loyalty in football any more. Unless players are true fans of the club like Matt Le Tissier at Saints they are more likely to stay. If they get offered a more prestigious club or more money they will go 9 times out of 10 (Yorke & Barry). Its just the facts of a modern football club. Fans will continue to get upset by this but Money and fame are big magnets for people. |
Gallie
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... Mellberg moved onto a bigger club and no one hates him. I'm with Badger on this one, it's all about the way Yorke left the club and comments he's made since leaving too. Even Barry is slightly different although still not the thing of legends. Neither Barry nor Yorke could possibly fall into that category. McGrath, Shaw, White, Cowans, Evans, Merson, even Laursen although his stay was short lived his performances will be remembered for a long time. These guys are what legends are really like. |
Car Frost
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...Thanks for giving me a fooking heart attack, I live in a village called Stone, I can't take anymore crap right now!!! Sorry Dan, a bizarre coincidence, hopefully a good result tonight and a few beers will help the recovery process.. good luck fella. |
Adrian Kilgallon
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...Yorke did more than enough for Villa, as did Barry. Yes but logic goes out the window with stuff like this. I mean i know Yorke did actually make the right move now. But i still hate the guy and always will. |
Martin Clabon
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... Sticky and Greg, I agree that we should expect top players to leave for top clubs. It's just that if a player forces his way out by deliberately playing badly and says really patently untrue and stupid things about the club when at the local rival he can not expect to be thought of as a legend. I don't hate either player it's just legend status is more difficult to come by |
Tim Hillman
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...I don't hate either player it's just legend status is more difficult to come by I agree, Salifou has had to work hard to become a legned at Villa! |
DAVIDVILLA
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... Yo Damo I think villa will bring the game to united tonight with a 2.1 win. Villa will be well ready for this, Lets do the treble on them UP THE VILLA |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Richard Dunne is Villa's own Finn MacCool - from such are the stuff of legends made. |
DAVIDVILLA
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... If Dorke was a legend he would of stayed at Villa, He let his ego get the better of him, and went on to achieve nothing in the legend department. Barry went for money, if he had of stayed at Villa would we be in a final????? Milner in his spot? Downing? |
Andi
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...I agree, Salifou has had to work hard to become a legned at Villa! Wrong Salifou is a legend full stop and bullet proof !!!!! |
James Clift
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... I'm a bit shocked to see all these Yorke comments, people saying he should never have left etc. He went on and won a treble, something that would never come even close to at Villa. He made a mistake by kissing the United badge, which I'm sure he regrets now, but leaving us to go to a bigger more successful club - never. |
DAVIDVILLA
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... JIMBO DAVENTRY Your a clown what do you mean your shocked, what do you expect the fans to say, come to Villa and we will welcome you with open arms lol |
Gallie
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... Pancho Villan said: Richard Dunne is Villa's own Finn MacCool - from such are the stuff of legends made. Pancho...you're spot on again, and speaking of legends, just look at the way he left City and the way the Man City fans reacted to him at VP earlier this season. Imagine applauding an opponents goal. PURE LEGEND!!! |
Steve Badger
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...people saying he should never have left etc. Who's saying he should never have left? My view on that is of course he was right to leave, even though it was bad for us. Players will always leave clubs. It's his actions after that matter to me. As said, compare Mellberg. I don't necessarily have a problem with Barry going. The thing that got me though was he went for the money and he should have admitted that it was too good to turn down. I doubt anyone would have had a problem with that. But going back to actions afterwards, he came and clapped the Holte. He went up in my esteem for that. Now compare that to Yorke. |
Andi
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... Yorke = Knob Barry = Knob it takes a very special person to become a legend the only one who has been in my life time is GOD himself Yorke was never and will never be a VILLA legend |
Andi
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...But going back to actions afterwards, he came and clapped the Holte. I agree with you there, strange thing was HOLTE gives him abuse all game then he comes and claps and the holte claps back |
DAVIDVILLA
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... Chiefy well said. Keep yorke out of Villa park or the CSA might catch Jimmy Daventry HE MIGHT GET SHOCKED AGAIN LOL |
Tim Hillman
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... I remember the days when you had to earn your badge. There is far to much badge kissing that goes on these days. I mean players have started doing it when they win a corner now! I never remember kissing my badge at Scouts when I managed to tie up my scarf and woggle currectly! |
Andi
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...I remember the days when you had to earn your badge. There is far to much badge kissing that goes on these days. I mean players have started doing it when they win a corner now far to much badge kissing and the worst thing is its fake badge kissing its not even real badge kissing any more !!! |
Greg
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... Name a better striker we've had in the last 20 years than yorke??? If he is not a villa legend he should be a hall of famer, he was class for us and gave nine years and a 12million plus transfer fee in return for his departure. Anyone can have and opinion and as always opinions will be divided. Sure he went to Birmingham city in the twilight of his career, so do you hate ridgewell and gardner now?? no because they have done nothing for the club and will never be remeberd but yorke will be so after ten years you still feel the hurt. Barry is a great servant to the club, always above average on his day but never class, he played his part in a mediocre villa team over the years, and bailed out once in his prime as a decent footballer, i can understand this though because of the vast amounts of money plus the ambition city are showing in the transfer market. I think its a bit unfair to write off peoples achievments for the club so easily, maybe it shows a lack of class for those who love to abuse and use football grounds to vent anger, thuggery and hooliganism instead of being normal human beings and going to watch the football. |
Andi
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...Name a better striker we've had in the last 20 years than yorke??? Balaban ??? Nobody is saying he isnt a hall of famer along with Barry but to be a legend it takes someone special and Barry and Yorke arent made of legend stuff. As someone said look at Dunne and the reception he got from citeeeh fans when he scored against them !!!! McGrath - legend Yorke - great Barry - good salifou - saint |
Andi
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... greg i feel you are causing a argument that doesnt need to be there More importantly we have united tonight lets talk about that not past players who/have or havent made a difference i dont care now is what matters and tonights game |
Andi
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...shows a lack of class for those who love to abuse and use football grounds to vent anger, thuggery and hooliganism instead of being normal human beings and going to watch the football. look at your signature picture class ?????? |
DAVIDVILLA
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... Gabby first goal, united 2nd and Carew 3rd 2.1 the Villa. Give your predictions??? UP THE VILLA |
Greg
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... chiefy thats the most intelligent thing i heard all day, what do u think the score will be? Ive a bad feeling were gona go for it and get stuffed by 2 r 3 goals, i think tactically ferguson will expose cuealler and young on the wings, take milner out of the game and push up high to catch gabby offside, to be honest im shitting a brick about this game. I hope im wrong, if we get beat il take it on the chin but would love to tke the points as we have the game in hand |
Andi
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... we will only get beat if we sit back and let them play we need to take it to them and Dunne will look after Rooney, if Carew decides to turn up and play we could win well if not we will struggle and get our goals on the counter |
Andi
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... 2-1 the last time we done the double we best them 1-0 at old trafford and 2-1 at villa park that was 50 odd years again its pay back time for all them years |
Greg
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... downing needs to step up to the plate, in the last couple of games ive seen him give it away far too easily when completely under no pressure. Id get over the glaring misses as all players have those and it'l come but he needs to sharpen up. I think your right about carew he looks like a man who is off in the summer, uninterested... I just cant see us winning this one |
Steve Badger
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...Name a better striker we've had in the last 20 years than yorke??? That's not the point. Andy Gray was a better striker, imo and he was fearless but he doesn't deserve legend status to my mind. There's more to it than that. Denis Mortimer comes way higher than Yorke because he talks Villa up and genuinely cares, even after all these years. Whereas Yorke does it for his own interests, imo. There's a big difference, to me anyway. How many players have taken digs of any sort at Villa? Not many that I can think of and to class one who has as a legend is a shame, imo. But that's what it's all about, opinions. And I certainly wouldn't want to fall out with any fellow Villa fan over a player. You think he's a legend and I don't. Let's change the subject. |
Steve Badger
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...Let's change the subject. Oops, we have. Draw or at least not many goals. I don't think we'll be hammered. |
Andy Scarborough
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... We bought Yorke from a small club in Trinidad. The year before we were touring the Caribbean and he came to the attention of Graham Taylor who enquired about him. The answer was that he was contracted to the Trinidad FA who would be pleased to listen to offers. Taylor made an offer there and then, peanuts by today's standards. This offer was accepted with nothing more than a handshake and gentleman's agreement. It appears that ManU were also interested in him at this time, and made an offer way in excess of ours, the Trinidadians refused, saying that they have made a gentleman's agreement. A year later we paid the money and got our man. Nine years, many goals and great performances later we sold him to ManU for a tidy profit. The shame of all this was that neither Aston Villa FC nor Doug Ellis thought to make a "gratitude" payment to the Trinidadian FA for their player or for honouring the gentleman's agreement in the face of a much larger offer from ManU. Legend or not, I don't think AVFC came out of it smelling of roses either. 1-0 win or 1-1 draw tonight. We will defend stoutly and keep them at bay, though Rooney and Nani are on fire at the moment and could score. I am sure that MoN has coached a goal into the side for the game tonight. |
Andy Scarborough
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... Stan Collymore is close to being a legend - not so much for his scoring on the pitch either. |
Greg
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... ok badger fair play some villa players who will never be forgotten for the wrong reasons enkleman berson djemba-djemba luc nillis balaban allback |
paul mclafferty
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... greg... why will these players be remembered for the wrong reasons? enkleman..yep the goal berson...was chased for a year by o'leory then never given a chance always played as sub. djembax2... made history because saf made the mistake then mugged o leory luc nillis...great player but bad break ended a great career balaban ...saw him play against shef wednesday and looked way out of his depth allback...never given a chance remember him scoring 11-12 in pre season then not getting a sniff come the season.. |
Andy Scarborough
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... Just a suggestion; could we get some cheerleaders from the old people's home for tonight? It may distract one of their best players. |
paul mclafferty
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... andy numbers... we paid yorkes old academy 20k as a thank you what did he pay them for giving him a pair of boots and a chance to play football, as i have said before yorke is a peasant and will never change, he was at villa for 9 years and still got the hatred between us and the clowns or was/is he too thick to understand? |
Greg
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... andy in a villa shirt they will be remembered for all the wrong reasons, allback and esp nilis were class players in their day, but for one reason or another, most that you stated they were flops for the villa and a waste of wages and money. Il bring my gran tonight if it keeps rooney busy il take one for the team! |
Adrian Kilgallon
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... Didn't Allback basically keep us up one season with vital goals in the last few months? |
Steve Badger
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... DAVIDVILLA, BADGER Your score predictions??? As above in case you missed it. Heart says draw, with few goals. Anyone else just had a mini-blizzard?  |
whitey09
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... couple of legends in my villa lifetime,players & managers- big ron-god himself -the very great man that is mr mortimer-gaz shaw & martin laursen who if he cud of stayed fit would of been the greatest player ive seen.not just were these players gud footballers but there attitude & there support of the club was un-questionable they wanted nothing but the club do well,as of yet they have neva spoken a word in anger against our club thats y they stand out,they are aston villa people.barry could of been & i have great respect 4 him after that game @vp, showed he werent so far up he's arse that the money wud suggest,as 4 yorke he was our saviour at the time,gave us sumat we neva had but all the shit he done & spouted afterwards ruined him in my eyes.now i'll 4give any1 eventually but dont expect me 2 think of them as legends not in a million yrs!!! 2nite i'll b happy wiv a point but dont think we'll get it. |
Martin Clabon
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... Allback, real old fashioned strong CF, being unlucky was his biggest drawback Nilis would have been class for us, great goal on the swivel before getting injured. We could do with a younger version of him now |
paul mclafferty
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... if anyone is a long in the tooth as i am then they will remember half the championship winning side go acroos the city to join smiley ronny, but not once did they open there mouths, and that is why they are still remembered with fondness. every player wants to play at the highest level at some stage in there careers, but its how they conduct themselves when they do this that counts and is remembered by joe public... |
Andy Scarborough
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... Paul, I am really long in the tooth, but the time you are talking of was before the interweb thingy and saturation coverage in the papers. Being a southern softy I did not get midlands papers to keep me up to date with all things Villa. So much of what happened then passed me by completely. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... It seems to me that legendary status is accorded from posters on this blog based not upon what the player did for the club, but on how well the player grasps the rudiments of good PR. As to tonight - I'm afraid we're in for a sound tubbing. ergo; we will get thumped. If we win tonight it will be: Win - MON the Magnificent Draw - MON the Mighty Lose - MON the Maybe it's time to use your bloody subs bench ! UTV !!! |
Damian
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... As an aside and in case anyone wants to take a look and maybe make a suggestion or two .. I am thinking about changing the comment system to a new one. The new one can be seen here: http://www.worldcup2010southaf...n-scandal/ Basically, you can login via Twitter, Facebook, Disqus or OpenID or even post without logging in - after your first post you would be added to a whitelist and it allows for replying to specific comments ... GO have a look if you want and let me know .. if there is outrage I wont do it, but I've used the system for a while and it is excellent .. but go have a look. CHeers |
Andy Scarborough
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... So you're finally using this domain you registered thirty four years ago! |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Damian: I have become too long in the tooth for words like Twitter, Facebook, Disqus or OpenID. It will be a shame if the simplicity of this blog is lost, but then I suppose we must have progress |
paul mclafferty
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... damian... the only thing i dislike about this one is i have to retype a quote but i also remember the amount of quotes in one answer before and it got silly, but how about fixing it so you can only quote one person at a time!! |
Steve Badger
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...even post without logging in - after your first post you would be added to a whitelist and it allows for replying to specific comments ... I often go on other clubs sites and post via this sort of method. But I always try and post reasonably and not deliberately try to wind people up (it's a respect thing) and this is where my concern would be Damian. Some people do it on purpose and I could see some blogs falling into farce, like when the spuds fans come on for instance. To me this would only be as effective as it's moderation and given as no-one expects you to sit on here all day, I'm not sure how that would work. That said, it's your site and I say by all means give it a go. It's not as though it would be irreversible. Would it???? It would certainly make it more accessable, as having to log in to new sites is a pain in the arse sometimes. Just my thoughts. |
Andy Scarborough
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... Pancho, progress is not one step forwards followed by two steps backwards. For example; vinyl is better quality than CD, analogue tv and radio is better quality than digital. The only exception being that this blog is better now than when it was hosted by olé ditto. I'm with you on this one. |
Steve Badger
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...the only thing i dislike about this one is i have to retype a quote Copy and paste works perfectly well Paul? |
Steve Badger
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...Lose - MON the Maybe it's time to use your bloody subs bench ! I think that's already win, lose or draw Pancho. |
paul mclafferty
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... andy... the forum on ole was a much better crack than it is now!!!! youve got to give me that as i really miss the friday night piss fare lol |
Damian
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... andy5759 it was a good guess wasn't it. now i just need england in 2018 and i'm laughing pancho - you will still be able to comment just as easily and i would make it look as close to this one as possible. after your first post - you would be added to a whitelist - so it would only be the first post that took a few minutes to get approved. it would also mean not having to login here holteend paul quoting isn't a feature as of yet in either - but it is coming with the other one and you can also reply specifically to a comment on the new one - so it gets nested underneath. go have a look. i have just replied to someone |
Andy Scarborough
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... http://www.manchesterunited.vi...p?a=187815 Looks like Utd fans are more than a little concerned about this one too. It appears that their fans rate our progress more than we do. |
Steve Badger
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...quoting isn't a feature as of yet in either What am I missing here? While we're on about it, any chance of more smilies Damian? A confused one would be good here for example |
Damian
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... Badger i would still have all the control that i have here, just less of the administration so if someone were to come along tonight and start winding us up .. the issue for me would be the exact same - banning user and IP the whitelist i talk about is pretty much the same as registered users here - i would actually have a little more control over it too - in so much that there are more features to it |
Andy Scarborough
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... Badger - just for me, confused that is. There is a site where you can cut and paste smilies, even some rather pornographic ones, just google smilies to find it. |
oscars arse
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... Well I've had my happy pills a double dose just for tonight and I predict a draw even a narrow win but we will not lose. Wages cap - yes Transfer cap - yes Then we will see who are the best managers when they have to compete on a level playing field and I think we would be much closer to the top than we are now - blimey these pills are good. Portsmouth well I blame twitcher redknapp they seemed OK before he got there with is cockney barrow boy wheelings and dealings. Hope they survive just sorry it's not another team that plays in blue and white a bit closer to home in their predicament. |
Damian
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... Badger sorry - i meant in any easy way. quoting is of course possible but it would be nice to just highlight some text and hit a 'quote' button |
paul mclafferty
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...copy and paste works perfectly well paul? are you takin the piss badge? i do well just logging on |
paul mclafferty
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... right then.... lets see what this young lad has to offer as many of you have been granted your wish of 4-5-1 and delph playing. |
Damian
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... this is a big ask for the player but also a big stage for him to show us what he has |
villatx
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... i dont believe it... 4-5-1...with delph... lack of confidence in Carew? or just tactics? whichever it is i just got a lot more excited about the match for some reason |
Damian
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... My only criticism of playing 451 and you'll love this - is we seem to be changing around our formation and when we do that, it can take time to get used to it. Ironically, while I prefer 451 - I think I would prefer 442 tonight - a little continuity. Saying that - if we win - I'll be singing for 451 again - the thing is, if we lose, it is all set up for 'he shouldn't have changed the formation'. I bloody hope we get a draw |
Steve Badger
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...There is a site where you can cut and paste smilies, I see. are you takin the piss badge? An edit function would be nice Ooh, imagine if we could edit each other's posts. Now that would be funny sorry - i meant in any easy way. quoting is of course possible but it would be nice to just highlight some text and hit a 'quote' button With you Damian. Can't say I'm too impressed with the look of it Damian. This one is much better. Boxes around each post for a start. And it's a bit bright for me, too, but I'm a moaning get. I assume you can tweak the look? And I'll have to trawl through my blocked cookies now to log on to it |
Steve Badger
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...451 Through having no choice I'd guess. Seems a bit unfair chucking Delph in for this one, but let's hope he has a good game. Kick Rooney so he has to go off and it's in the bag |
Damian
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... Chater1703 its not me - i'm all for 451 and hope he sticks with it this would be a good game for them to be jumping into the fire. my fear is he is changing it because he has no confidence in any of the other strikers and if that is the case - he has had 2 transfer windows to fix it 3 points tonight though and nothing will matter |
stephen may
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... fair play to o'neill , toughest match of the season and not afraid to try it out , love it! |
villatx
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... SALIFOU....i doubt it but i hope he gets a run on in added time if were not chasing the game would get a massive reception |
George Templeton
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... Villa going 4-5-1 with Delph into the side and Carew on the bench! I am feeling good about this match now. Heading over to the pub in 10 minutes to watch! UTV! |
Andy Neale
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... I'm glad we are using the squad tonight, well Delph is a start perhaps The Fonz is next?? "On the piss my lord, on the piss" |
Daniel Wilson
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... f**king awesome excuse my french. Thats just made my week, go on Fabian stick it right up em!!!!!!! |
Bob Bhowmik
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... Dennis Wise is a pundit on Showtime over here in Dubai and he's saying that he's looking forward to seeing Delph play, but he also agrees that Delph isn't ready for the week in week out games as he's still 'filling out'??? Remember Dennis was with Delph at Leeds so maybe explains why he's had limited appearances so far. Lets hope he has a great game! UTV!!! |
colin badger
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... his playing 4-5-1 to combat utd going 4-5-1 as well. but the match will be won in the midfied and to me utd have no ball winners, carrick cannot pass forward and scholes will give us a few freekicks i hope lol just hope delph and jimmy can take a gamble and join gabby in the box. but feel utds defence is there for the taking as brown/evens are not top 4 centre halfs and wouldnt even get on our bench or start for most teams imho. |
Damian
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... beer on table. a few in the fridge. nervous anticipation and all is good. laptop on lap and ready to go. |
Steve Badger
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... Dicky mint link here, but requires a good connection; http://www.veetle.com/viewChan...28277d56bc |
Villa4Life11
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... Glad to see the match is on FSC in the States. I'm all ready to go! 1-0 Villa |
Alex Glynn
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... ?Badger every time I try to use veetle i get the "stream something something please try again in 5 minutes" know why? |
Proxopera
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... Just read a few lines from SAF about Villa , why is it that he never seems to diss Villa in the way he does with most other teams ? Its really unsettling as i cant focus properly on disliking him. Is he just patronising or did villa give him the heebie jeebies in the first year he won the PL when they ran him close. |
Steve Badger
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...Badger every time I try to use veetle i get the "stream something something please try again in 5 minutes" It's busy mate. More links here; http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast....art=sports |
Damian
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... I am liking this .. Gabby pulling wide, dragging players. Too early to really say just on 6 minutes but I really do prefer 451 |
PAUL WARREN
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...I really do prefer 451 you may have mentioned it once or twice... Although I agree, we look more solid with 451 |
Matty Boy
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... I'm going to put my neck on the line here . . . Alan Hansen once said 'You never win anything with kids' when Man Utd fielded a young team back in '95 with Giggs. i'm going to say, the Villa wont get into the top 4 with 1 up front. That is very negative, as much as i like the wing play. |
Alex Glynn
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... I do think that 4-5-1 is a good formation for confidence, especially for a team like us. Note we don't score that many goals anyway with 2 strikers and the extra man in midfield is definitely useful for the counter attack and then when we get a set peice we'll have the majority of the men in the box anyway. Plus Delph is sweet. |
fastbackace
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... ash just skinned him, and good free kick by downing. were firing on all cylinders today boys!!! 2-0 villa. |
Damian
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... Matty Boy think of it as more like 433 united are only playing 1 up front tonight think of downing and young as extra attackers - when we have the ball |
Alex Glynn
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... The radio makes it sound like we're attacking lots and well. I hope we score lots! |
James
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... Oh yes indeed. Had great pause on Irag goals there. Ball in mid flight, looked goal bound, 5 second wait, then ball in net. |
sean jones
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... Cummmmmmmmmm onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn u beautyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Now lets see how the best defence in the league get on  . I reckon Man Utd will score but hopefully we can nick another before half time to really spice things up. UTV |
Alex Glynn
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... NO! The second highest scorer for Man U is own goals. We've just added to that. That's the problem we CAN'T let them attack because they'll score. |
Steve Badger
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... Commentator still sucking Man U's cock and we've been the better side for the last 15 mins |
Alex Glynn
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...I hate gingers I wouldn't hate him, except that he's crap. |
Damian
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... Surely this is the best opportunity we are going to get now? # Could we beat them 3 times in a season? |
Steve Badger
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... He jumped in, so it's off. I thought it was poor decision at first. We can do these now. |
Matty Boy
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... great chance for us now. i am officially a 451 fan for the first time in my life. especially against 10 men! |
PAUL WARREN
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...sidwell - I wouldn't hate him, except that he's crap yeah, but MON will still bring him on with 10 to go to win this game! Nasal francis is pissing me off. Bluenose t**t! Why is he commentator for a villa game? |
Steve Badger
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... Loving the 5 today. Just so much more to offer. And it's because Heskey isn't there doing a pretend midfield job, imo. |
Damian
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... the trick to playing against 10 men is to stretch them. we need to play the game as wide as possible to create more space ... it is also hard playing against 10 men as they get renewed fight |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...the trick to playing against 10 men is to stretch them. we need to play the game as wide as possible to create more space ... that means keeping the ball and not just trying to play on the break - are we capable of doing that ? |
Cian Donaghy
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... iraq goals s down for me anyone else?!?! links links??!?! please! dont give me a long list of one that never work though! |
PAUL WARREN
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... the fonz? we wish! He'll bring big john, then sidders before he'll let the fonz get a look in. Though would love to be wrong. He could really make a name for himself if he got on tonight. |
Alex Glynn
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... I think that fonz would be perfect then as perhaps we could afford to go back to 4-4-2 at that point. Free kick on the edge! but it's to rooney :[ |
Damian
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... Badger esp when he should have been booked for the deliverate hand ball and then kicking the ball away after the whistle |
Jeppe Lyhne
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... http://soccerjumbo.blogspot.co...nnel1.html works perfectly fine for me. only problem is the spanish commentators. i don't think i have to elaborate on that |
Steve Badger
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...Badger Exactly mate. |
Paul Gough
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... Heres where I am watching it Its a bit jumpy http://www.entertainmenow.net/channel3.php |
Damian
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... lets not change anything for a while. if we have 30 mins to go and we are not in the lead .. sure .. but lets not change for changes sake we are bossing this game now and it is only a matter of time before we create something. although i can help but think we need them to push forward as everyone for them apart from rooney is back |
Andy Scarborough
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... http://www.veetle.com/viewChan...28277d56bc download Veetle - it works good on Mac OS. |
fastbackace
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... just a stat for everyone. harewood had 6 goals while at newcastle. carew has 6 goals this season, and heskey has 4... id almost rather have harewood starting.. |
Cian Donaghy
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... cheers for the help lads cant seem to get veetle going well, cheers all the same! |
Andy Scarborough
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... half time 1-1. well done our lads. The Veetle feed is good. http://www.veetle.com/viewChan...28277d56bc |
Jeppe Lyhne
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... I would rather play my old granny than Carew to be honest. He does not seem like he gives a shit anymore. Thoughh he normally seems to be up for the big games, so tough decision really. But based on his recent display against spuds, he does not deserve to play. |
Villa4Life11
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... fastbackace that might be the stupidest things ive ever heard. they play so many more match in the championship and the level of play is so much worse than the premier league... on another note does anyone else think downing looks off the pace a little the past couple weeks? anyways good half! cuellar and friedel continue to be our best players! we might just sneak this |
PAUL WARREN
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... half time - and we are so unlucky not to be leading. This is how I love to watch villa play! Just fonz on now - but to replace who? delph's done alright, so has milner and stan? |
Alex Glynn
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... It'd be Carew because Carew is our attacking power-sub but I don't think he'll come on until perhaps the 60th minute. I'd prefer Delf probably, but that'd be a risk. |
James Clift
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... For everyone thats struggling to watch it go on Villa streams, it costs £1.75 but is top quality |
Andy Scarborough
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... Stick with 4-5-1 to stretch them, tire them out then when 15 mins left go 4-4-2, prefer the experience of Carew over Fonz, but Fonz may be more fired up. |
InvisibileFlyingGuy
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... I would def go for Carew, could do with the height in the box to take advantage of the crosses. Saves us having to rely on getting Cuellar up there I am a fan of the Fonz but dont think hes the right answerthis time.... |
lknkn
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... hasn't carew had a knock?? or is it just in his head? i think that he'd annihilate evans and brown. |
Damian
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... i think i´d go fonz although carew does have the ability to really make an impact fonz for me |
PAUL WARREN
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...I´m not convinced with Downing on the right. Am I alone? he should swap flanks with ash then, as we don't want milner back out wide. |
Steve Badger
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... Celtic, Do yourself a favour and download/install sopcast, Veetle and TVants ready for next time. You can't just rely on a media player program mate. |
Andy Oliver
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... Downing needs to pull his finger out i reckon damo. My mate is an academy coach at villa and says that carew's bright orange mustang has been left in the car park for 2 weeks cos its got a flat and he cant be arsed to get it sorted out! Sums up his attitude on the pitch this season to me! Will love him forever more if he comes on and bags the winner though! |
VillaDude
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... Downing needs to start paying some of that 12m back. Saw Johnson debut yesterday for man city and stood out a mile, I think he cost less as well. |
PAUL WARREN
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... question - is their a chance nani's red card ban can be overturned for the final? how does it work for a straight red, is their an appeals process? |
Damian
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... andy5759 surely if you are going to take off a defender it would have to be collins and move cuellar into the middle? |
Cian Donaghy
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... im not convince by downing full stop damo! by the way the goal i think was collins fault all round. he wasnt picking up rooney, cuellar went to rooney and giggs was left free. i have question marks on collins again lads, im sorry but im not sold! ash young is exciting again, he'll score tonight... |
fastbackace
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... villa for life... thought u liked the lazy ass carew... atleast u could see harewood trying for villa, and he was a super sub for us for 4 months, remember feed the hare??? |
John Flynn
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... Well we have to stay with 4-5-1. they are still dangerous... they will change things around before us.! Oh and Everton have just missed a penalty.. |
Damian
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... Paul W there is an appeals process but you have to be able to show it wasn´t a red card - as in, it wasn´t that player - they can not appeal that it should have been a yellow or the red was too harsh he will miss the final - two footed and he dived in valencia on for scholes |
Steve Badger
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... I'd stay as we are for now and try to tire them out. We can't go balls out, as they only need one chance, as we saw. Lucky f**ks, imo. |
Cian Donaghy
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... im gonna put this out there... 5 teams going for 2 champions league places. is it inconceivable that ars will fall into a race they dont want? |
VillaDude
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... i have to admit - rooney is such a good player, hes playing like 2 strikers, we need to be careful on their counter. |
Damian
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... Badger we have to try and do it .. but we are not the best team in the league at attacking teams. i worry this could end a draw or worse - we could still lose it |
Steve Badger
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...i worry this could end a draw or worse - we could still lose it. I'd rather draw than lose. Bollocks, I forgot to charge the batteries for my mouse |
Andy Scarborough
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... I fogot to change the batteries in my GF's rabbit, Does that mean I have to go home? |
Damian
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... If ever there was a team to watch to see how to create space and keep the ball - Manchester Untied is it. This is a part of our game that needs serious work. This is quite shocking really - sitting back against 10 men. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... We need to stretch them with whipper-snappers. Get Collins off and Delfouneso on |
Scrumpy
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... Four points from United for a season would be three more than last season and something that very few other teams will achieve this year. Six points would be a real bonus - even with 10 men United are very strong... so fingers crossed! They are going through a spell....but we can still hit on the break. Nice to see Ash trying to pass that ball between full back and centre back, it is used so effectively by other teams such as United and Chelsea. UTV!! |
Werner Olsen
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... Are we down to ten men too ? We look poor today. No movement going forward. Are we playing for the draw  |
Rattus NorVillicus
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...Pancho - Nope! Carew's warming up he rarely gets beyond tepid these days - oh well come on and prove me wrong big man |
Scrumpy
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... Switch to 442 MON is Going for this chaps...Although Carew isnt or wasnt at his best....hold on to your hats!! |
Steve Badger
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...I fogot to change the batteries in my GF's rabbit, Does that mean I have to go home? If your dick is as small as mine, yes if ever there was a team to watch to see how to create space and keep the ball - Manchester Untied is it. This is a part of our game that needs serious work. This is quite shocking really - sitting back against 10 men. No Damian, this is the difference mentally, imo. Man U have just said to themselves "ok, we just have to work harder". |
fastbackace
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... maybe this is a physcomental thingy, but i just think the young players, ash, milner, gabby, delph, all are on the same page, they work so well together... moving and passing to feet. holding up like gabby just did for milner, that was beautiful. go young guns. |
Cian Donaghy
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... yeh badger i actually have all 3, its just my internet connection is so poor! i just gotta make do, but f**k is it frustrating! |
Steve Badger
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... Looks like Stan's achilles might have caught up with him  Sidwell? Let's hope he keeps up that record of us always winning when he plays. |
PAUL WARREN
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... salifou is on the bench - he can't be any worse than sidwell... and as we know, he's bulletproof! |
Alex Glynn
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... I'd much prefer Salifou than Shitwell... [It's not a vey creative name really is it?] |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... They are out playing us with ten men - oh for Reo Coker fit in these situations - but then MON would still bring on Sidwell |
Andy Scarborough
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... I didn't see Sidwell come on - I was in the loo. The first I knew of it was when he headed the ball straight back to the little boy Raphael. Twit. |
PAUL WARREN
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... so... 1-1, 10 against 10 (mr invisible is on) i'm nervous now. One sub left, will MON use it? |
Steve Badger
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... Anyone else think Dunne is more effective up front than Heskey? Doesn't seem to be able to win a foul though, even when he gets hacked down. |
Damian
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... Arsenal beating Liverpool. Wolves beating spurs. As things stand we are still 7th but only 2 points off 4th with a game in hand |
Alex Glynn
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... We still really need to win this Damian... Man C have 2 goals in hand and we are getting pressured. 4-3-3 anyone? ;] haha |
Damian
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... Last time we did the double against United was 1954/55 season. 1-0 at Old Trafford and 2-1 at Villa Park. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... GOD ! Every time Sidwell comes on we lose complete control of the midfield. Delph should have been put back on when Petrov went off Carew is pointless - it's time to give Delfouneso his head. We are being outplayed by ten men ! |
Damian
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... glynnder i agree - but if anything, this 2nd half has just shown that we dont know how to attack teams we can defend for sure, but going forward, we are seriously lacking i am expecting 1-1 now .. we would have taken this at the start of the game but not after 30 minutes |
Andy Scarborough
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... Damian; 2-1 written all over it, they are pushing too hard, we will get space and chances in the last 5 minutes. |
Alex Glynn
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... 4 bloody minutes left. Did MON tell them to defend for a half hour then score? Because we're just not good enough to do that to Man U. I really hope we score. |
Villa4Life11
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... I know not many people will have picked up on this, but MON deserves some real credit for something: he has instantly realized Sidwell is terrible in midfield so he's called Downing and Milner back to cover for him and told Sidders to go play forward when he can. |
PAUL WARREN
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... gabby used to get boo'ed for less than sidders and JC. Are we more accepting of shite now? |
Alex Glynn
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... The other key point is that winning is what we need to do to signal our proper top-four intent. This is horrible. |
Alex Glynn
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... It HAD to be Downing who kicks it off from what could have been our last proper change. ATTACK VILLA FOR GODS SAKE. |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... Good point, but we don't have the belief. We didn't think we could win that |
sean jones
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... That performance was sh*t i would rather of lost the game trying to win it against 10 men then settle for a draw becuase thats what MON has done. I hardly saw Villa up the tempo and try and win the game. |
PAUL WARREN
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... would have took the draw at the start, but feel a little dissapointed we didn't go for the win, and sat back 2nd half. Still palace on the weekend - really looking forward to this, as the fonz should play!! |
Steve Badger
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...Good point, but we don't have the belief. We didn't think we could win that Yep, that's the impression I got. Either that or they were told, "don't lose". |
Andy Scarborough
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... I have to disagree Pancho, the lads played with belief, passion, skill and not a little fight. There was steel to be seen out there. I am very pleased with that performance, against any other side that would be a win. |
Paul Gough
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... Spot on Pancho Villan Think the level of effort went down when Nani was sent off. Ah well another point on the board and Liverpool, Spurs lost |
Alex Glynn
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... Completely Pancho. REALLY pissed off with that. We had the skill to win, and who the hell plays Sidwell in a league match? Loan him out. Please. Villa need to WANT it. And if we don't show that in the final then i'll get angry. anyways, utv i guess... |
villatx
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... poor poor second half... i just cant see it as a good result for one reason not cuz were a man up...not cuz were at home...but it wasnt a good result, cuz with all those things, we still got bossed around in the 2nd half im f**king tired of draws |
Andy Scarborough
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... MoN got it right. Don't get carried away when a man up. Don't lose. Soak up pressure, watch them tire and then go for it. That last five minutes was some of the best football we've played. |
rocky marciano
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... i`m struggling to remember a more toothless forward line.at least we got a point maybe should of been more against 10 men but hey. nearly forgot,we scored too |
Rattus NorVillicus
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... andy5759; I agree, we played with all those things. However we need a Merson who believes in his head that Villa can win it. |
paul mclafferty
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... ffs you lot on here were predicting we would lose, we get a creditable point and play well against the champions and you still moan!!! get a life you sad sods |
Car Frost
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... I hate how biased comentators are.. Manchester United look as good with 10 as with 11, they really are world class" Blackburn vs Villa carling cup 1st leg Blackburn look as good with 10 men as 11.. great effort from the boys Rose tinted red glasses ... grrrr I see Terry has proved me right again.. what a liability he is against strikers with pace, sadly I think thats given Man U the title tonight, well they were world class with 10 men.. |
Andy Scarborough
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... Pancho, he would keep the Brum bookies in business. Yes, he was a magnificent player, not a bad lad either, he lived near me during his Arsenal days. Who would be your MotM? |
rocky marciano
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... did we play well holteend paul,against 10 men at home when we looked like the team with ten men sad sod |
paul mclafferty
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... frosty... terry would have to be quicker than that as he is in dubhia chasing his wife. |
Chris Parry
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... So how withdrawn are we going to play in the cup final??? If were not prepared to have ago against ten men then whats the point, Negative tactics and no belief!!! lets hope they go down to nine men at wembley and maybe we'll venture into there half. Would have taken a point at the start but once again MON failed to react during a game. |
Proxopera
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... Not the end of the world ....we have the best defensive unit in the premiership , we have the makings of a pretty good midfield ,but we could'nt attack a sausage roll.We have 5 very winnable games on the trot now , let either young or the fonz loose upfront and forget about Carew. Man City have a tough run in the next 5, Liverpool have a much easier run, spurs have bottled it, look out for everton.....they're at it again. |
Matt
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... I think we did ok. Man u are pretty scary when going forward. We handled them well. Dunny nearly won it for us in the end. I'm quite happy with that. |
John Clark
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... I'll take four out of six points against Utd. 10 men makes little difference when it's a side with so much composure and experience and three subs to use. Besides...Do you really think any PL team would beat Utd. three times in one season? |
Proxopera
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... Relatively speaking ...Rooney did'nt get a sniff of goal tonite ,and remember Utd did'nt actually score. |
Greg
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... i agree look out for everton, i said b4 the merseyside derby that if they beat liverpool they would be dark horses for 4th, well they didnt but i still think they have the squad to win 6 r 7 on the trot. Anyway i would have taken your hand off for a draw today but to be picky itsa pity we didnt take advantage of the extra man, saying that utd are a top side and never panick on the ball, the only one who did it now n again was raphael. We look good at the back and fairly solid in midfield, we are defo a top striker and midfielder away. Sorry but the likes of sidwell, reo-coker, carew, salifou players need to be replaced with genuine 1st teamers to really push the squad, saying that they are all good on their day with the excetion od sidders who has the heart but not the talent, where is the guy who destroyed us for reading?? never seen a patch of him come through at villa, such a pity. |
MJ
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... Well done Martin O'Neill and the Villa but who else thinks the ticket allocation for the final is a farce! Season tickets holders yeah deserved but where do they get the 2 cup home games been given as priority to away games? if its based on cup history then why arent they including away games as there were more of them in the Carling Cup. It stinks. Should of been done on ticket history HOME AND AWAY that would of been fair. Sure the Villa boys appreciate fan base support away from home greatly. Shame the ticket organisers didn't see it like that when people shelled out their hard earn cash to travel back from Blackburn and from Sunderland at 4am in the morning. Big letdown. |
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