Written by Damian Friday, 05 February 2010 08:28
Based on what I have read over the past few years, Spurs are one of those clubs that you either hate or have no feelings for whatsoever. You don't ever like them or have a soft spot for them. Yes, there are exceptions, but generally it is hate/dislike or nothing.
I can understand too. Spurs fans tend to have this arrogance about them that makes you want to dislike them. Yes, there are exceptions to this also and I've got a couple of mates that support Spurs and I'd happily sit in a pub with either of them all day and they are mates, but we have stopped talking football a long time ago.
You see, Spurs are just like us. They are a big club. Okay, they are not as big as us but they are close. If you want to look at it from day one, we have won more than them.
Okay, Spurs fans will argue that they are bigger, but they're not. Sure, they generate more money, but so do Newcastle. The amount of money you generate doesn't matter, results matter and whichever way you want to look at it, we are bigger than Spurs.
But, enough about Spurs and I only write that to hopefully stop the 'we're a bigger club than you' comments that always seem to come whenever we have a Spurs match coming up. You're not, accept it, move on, go argue with QPR about that.
White Hart Lane
It's a nice stadium and very snug and always a fun place to go and an even nicer place to leave with three points. It's nice, because it isn't easy and you know if you win at Spurs you've usually watched a good game.
To beat Spurs you have to play football and create chances. If you sit back or try to protect something against Spurs, you won't beat Spurs and that is why it is nice to leave White Hart Lane if you have won. That is what we need to do tomorrow and if we do it, we can beat Spurs, but it is about attacking the game and not sitting back.
Don't get me wrong, we can sit back against any team and get a point and some would argue now that a point at White Hart Lane is a good point and it is hard to disagree. However, if we are ever going to consider ourselves a team expecting anything other than top six, then we have to start to go to places like White Hart Lane and expect to give it a go, not sit back and not play for a point.
Early Team News
We know Warnock won't be playing for a couple of weeks while he rests and we also know that even if Marc Albrighton was at full fitness and had just scored a hat-trick of free kicks for the reserves, he wouldn't be playing either, but he isn't at full fitness. So, we are left to ponder the ability of Stan Petrov and John Carew - and well, only O'Neill knows it they will play.
Nigel Reo-Coker won't be playing for a while sadly, but even if he were fit, I don't think he would have played much, but I expect he'll come back just as strong.
So, if I were a betting man, I'd pick exactly the same team that started the last match. I don't think you have to be a genius to figure out that is the most likely team, if the players are available.
Prediction
This is too difficult to predict. It depends what Spurs team turn up and it depends on how we play and it depends on what mood the likes of Gabby and Webcam are in. If I were a betting man, I'd put money on a score draw but really wouldn't be surprised if Spurs stole it or we left with three points.
It is an important game though. If Spurs win, they'll be five points ahead of us, if we win, we'd be a point ahead of them, so when you look at it like that, I think a fiver on a draw at 9/4 seems like a good price.
But, you get a chance to predict below too. No t-shirt today, as I'm told I have none left after the three that are going out today - so sorry for the delay for those expecting one.
Right, that is almost it for today. But, there is also some news on the web here are some links.
- Aston Villa to wear white kit at Carling Cup final
- Win a meal for two at Villa Park for Valentines day
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ak_27
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... If Petrov doesn't make it then i really hope he goes with Delph. But chances are we will have to endure the ginger ghost playing CM. I think we will be in trouble if that happens. Is Lennon still out for Spurs? |
Tomst
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... How will you ever stop the 'bigger club' debate when you post something about it yourself?! You then go on to state it's all about results, and we've been better than you all season. Your problem is your lack of depth, which cost you last season and will cost you this season. Our problem is our inability to kill off games where we are dominant e.g. against you at your place, against Everton at their place, at home to Hull/Stoke/Wolves. That said, I don't mid Villa, you're a club that doesn't stir much emotions with anyone outside of the Midlands (which says something about you). But if we can't get 4th I'd like you to get it, but I think it will be City unfortunately. |
modric
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... we can understand your hate for us but envy is a terrible thing and no wonder your so well liked with arrogant shits like you who wrote the comments |
Damian
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... Tomst it will never stop - that is my point. doesn't matter if i don't mention it. what i am doing by putting it in the post is getting it out of the way from the off |
Hisham
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... Since when Villain is bigger than Spurs?Plz do not live in a dream - grab a paper look at the league table find Spurs and look down a bit - u see Villa |
RockSteady
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... I'm to make a prediction - the Spuds fans will soon be on in force giving you fiece abuse Damo  As for the game - I'm going to predict a draw 1-1/2-2 as there are goals in this fixture. Would love the win tough. UTV |
Dr John
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... Villa will be crushed tommoro. Im a massive villa fan but Spurs outclassed us on our own patch so what they will do to us at white hart lane i dread to think. On paper they are better than us im afraid, i will be happy with 7th. As for spurs 4th will be there aim. |
RockSteady
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...Since when Villain is bigger than Spurs?Plz do not live in a dream - grab a paper look at the league table find Spurs and look down a bit - u see Villa 3 words for you mate - GAME IN HAND |
CSM
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...You then go on to state it's all about results, and we've been better than you all season. Really??? I forgot you had made the Carling cup final? You might have two more points than us but wait I believe you have played one more game!!! So how have you been better than us? This is why I hate Spurs fans!!! |
spoff
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... at last a positive comment from Tomst...you are obviously a tru football supporter with a passion for spurs (like me) yet a realist in the football world. Damien..take off your claret and blue tinted glasses and see the bigger/realistic picture. |
Tomst
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... Damian, the way to avoid controversy and argument is to be neutral. You posting that you're the bigger club is your opinion, not fact, and vitriol at that. I'll re-iterate my desire that if Tottenham don't break the top 4, then I hope you do. @CSM were you at the game at your ground earlier this season? Look at the write-up then. |
chipper
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... csm dont bite. let em come here and tell us its all about this season. they won on that so far but look at history of football in prem or from day one an all 4000 matches we are the bigger club and always will be. spurs can have the odd season but we we will have more |
apocalypso
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... ... pmsl at the deluded Villa have won more than Spurs comment check this link, scroll down towards the bottom, you'll see spurs are quite a long way behind villa in trophies won! |
Pancho Villan
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...SuperBox said: Brilliant And he got on his pike, and spud off as fast as he cod |
CSM
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...@CSM were you at the game at your ground earlier this season? Look at the write-up then. So you are basing the whole season on one game?? Which was a draw! This is a 'Villa Blog' and you are wanting Damian to be neutral!!! Ok good one! |
Danspur
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... I'm not going to get involved in the 'my club's bigger than your club' nonsense, as it's an argument that just goes round in circles and is pretty irrelevant anyway. It's basically asking who are the biggest under-achievers. But I will take issue with you about the best way to beat Spurs. With the exception of Man Utd, all the teams who have come to the Lane this season and played football have last (often heavily - Burnley, Wigan, Man City). However, the ones that have sat back and wasted time have done well - wins for Stoke and Wolves, 0-0 for Hull. Your best bet is to play your usual counter-attacking game, crowd us out in midfield and then use your pace. |
ronrabbit
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... The reason the spuds come on here is becasue they are the third team in london, thats why they have the inferiority complex, and go to other boards trying to convince teams they are a big team. The facts which evere way you dice it up are we are more successful over our history, and more successful over the course of the premier league. The only time spurs have anything on us is if you look over the last 5 years, and that will change when we win the carling cup. |
Chiefy
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... Spurs fans are the wannabe Arsenal of London allow though they have a crook manager and a crap stadium. Aston Villa are one of the oldest and most successful football clubs in England, having won the First Division Championship seven times and the FA Cup seven times.[5] Villa also won the 1981–82 European Cup, one of only four English clubs to win what is now the UEFA Champions League.[6] Aston Villa has the fourth highest total of major honours won by an English club READ IT AND WEEEP SPUDS BOYS |
CSM
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... I can see the game being quite a scrappy game. We will try to spoil the Spurs passing game and try to catch them on the break. I can only see a one goal winning margin. I think Defoe will struggle against Dunne and Collins but modric and bale might be a bit of a handful for Cueller. |
tubbydunne
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... I have a good feeling about this one and think we can nick it. The pressure is off Gabby after last weekend and he will play with more abandon. I think we will take it 0-1 with Downing getting the goal. He has been knocking on the door. Our defence is going to be tested to the limit, but with Fridel on his game we will scrape it. |
irishspur
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... What a short memory some Villans have. We absolutely destroyed you at Villa Park and you were lucky to get out with a point. Stick to the football debate and dont let your petty prejudices blind your judgement. Spurs to win 2-1. |
Tomst
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... It's impossible to talk football with people who are so blinded by their own allegiances and resort to attempted insulting words, like 'Spud'. I really don't get how it's meant to be offensive, it's more comical, as SuperBox proved. @CSM 17 shots on target away from home against the home team who only managed 4 suggests we dominated the game. But nevermind, good luck at the weekend. |
churchill
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... Boss I wake up in the morning to pay homage to this site. The previous thread about the official site was a wonderful reminder of why this blog is so valuable to us. It’s the only place we can get up to date information and express our views about it. The Official Site is an insult to a great club. This kind of praise can only mean one thing – I’m not happy. It’s the precursor to a ‘great slagging off’. Mr Dugdale, today’s lede was not worthy of you. Are you hung over? Or still on the nest? Or on the lash as you wrote it? The section under “White Hart Lane” was gibberish. I have to say that the OS would not have published it. Doc Bowles, JPA, Nan and others have set high standards and you have let them down. And it is about standards. That’s why were so contemptuous of the OS – it has no standards. The headline will invite Spurs fans to this site. What will they think of us Brummies if they think this kind of journalism is typical of our efforts? The Yids have tremendous wit. Harry Hotspur’s mob will play havoc with us Think on. |
astonguerrilla
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... Everybody should go to statto .com. It will set the record straight. I agree though, it is a tiresome debate. Both clubs are on an even par this year and as a result I've not been dragged into any of those 'who's bigger than who' debates with any of my spurs mates this season. We've instead had a 'tip of the cap' mutual respect attitude towards each other. |
tubbydunne
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... Villa and Spurs fighting over who is bigger than who in the modern game(last 20 years)smacks of two bald men fighting over a comb. |
Chiefy
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...What a short memory some Villans have. We absolutely destroyed you at Villa Park and you were lucky to get out with a point. Results speak louder than opinions and if you lot where that good wouldn't you have taken all 3 points ??????? |
CSM
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...@CSM 17 shots on target away from home against the home team who only managed 4 suggests we dominated the game. But nevermind, good luck at the weekend. It was one game!!!!! You can't base the entire season on one game. You might have out played us but you still only got a point. If we are basing the season on one game I pick away game to Anfield. How did you get on ??? Oh wait thats right you lost 2-0 (without Torres and Gerrard). How did we get on.... Oh thats right we won 3-1. This surely means we are the greatest team in the world and will take over the entire universe with our bullet proof Snoods!! Tomst if you can't put forward a reasonable point then go back to your McCain based website. |
mickey86
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... NICKY SHOREY - is in trouble with fifa - fulham is his third club of the season, your only allowed to play for 2 teasm in one season - naughty boy (stupid rule but dont see how teams and players can break such easy rules and why did the premier league allow it to go through?) |
Billys boots
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... what a crock of crap this article is, What makes Villa a bigger club than Spurs opinions and they are recipracted, i would like to point out that Tottenham Hotspur are the 14th richest club in the world this comes from the D&T official annual report, the only club in the top 14 who have not appeared in the CL, imagine if they did, they are big spenders now in my mind a giant of a club but thats my opinion, and with no apparent debt. If fans of every club did not have that air of arrogance where would that leave the passion that drives this great game, i respect the authors license to be biased towards his team, but to say other clubs either hate or have no feelings towards spurs are rubbish, i work with loads of fella's and the clubs thats are supported are quite broad, and the funny thing nearly everyone likes to watch Spurs, because your going to get a decent game of football no sitting back for us, and counter attacking, its full out football. |
apocalypso
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... I forgot the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_records_in_England Aston Villa 23 trophies, Spurs 12 Also, top flight ranking points link (all top flight football until the end of 2007/0  http://www.aboutaball.co.uk/aboutaball-historical-football-rankings/historical-ranking-of-english-football-clubs |
Dr John
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... Villa fans make me laugh!! When did you mugs last win anything?? Stupid little club FACT |
Mart
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... We have won the F.A Cup 8 times the league cup 4 times. Thats not including our league wins and European wins. Them stats are rubbish. You cant include pre-season cups dick heads! |
tubbydunne
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... I have no strong feelings for Spurs either way, It's just that t**t of a manager that really gets my goat. The great wheeler dealer ol' ARRY Redknapp. So well connected with Sky Sports that they portray him like a great messiah and talk about him in terms of reverence. What was his great Master plan to turn Spurs around. Bring in all the players that he brought to Portsmouth that broke the club at knock down prices. Nice work Arry you slime ball con. |
dant
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... yes but spurs have won the FA Cup 8 times to your 7 Have 3 European trophies to your 1 and have won more league trophies than villa since 1911 come on your argument is you are bigger than us cos you won 5 titles in the 1800's is just laughable |
Chiefy
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...what a crock of crap this article is, What makes Villa a bigger club than Spurs opinions and they are recipracted, i would like to point out that Tottenham Hotspur are the 14th richest club in the world this comes from the D&T official annual report, your rich well done Aston Villa are one of the oldest and most successful football clubs in England, having won the First Division Championship seven times and the FA Cup seven times.[5] Villa also won the 1981–82 European Cup, one of only four English clubs to win what is now the UEFA Champions League.[6] Aston Villa has the fourth highest total of major honours won by an English club We are far superior to you in terms of trophies my friend i dont like the word bigger i prefer MORE SUCCESSFUL  |
Mart
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... Only 4 teams are more successful than Spurs (Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Everton) In that order! - This is a fact. You might know what Villa have won, obviously not Spurs. |
Chiefy
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...Only 4 teams are more successful than Spurs (Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Everton) In that order! - This is a fact. You might know what Villa have won, obviously not Spurs. Aston Villa are one of the oldest and most successful football clubs in England, having won the First Division Championship seven times and the FA Cup seven times.[5] Villa also won the 1981–82 European Cup, one of only four English clubs to win what is now the UEFA Champions League.[6] Aston Villa has the fourth highest total of major honours won by an English club Which bit are you struggling with ? |
Mark
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... spurs have a larger fan base world wide,larger year on year revenue, and,soon to have a bigger stadium...look at Forbes list of the worlds largest clubs....Spurs 14th......but sadly, the list does not go down far enough ,to see villa...but thanks anyway ,i am going to have a smile on my face all day after reading these blogs...Come on you Spurs...2-0 Mark..Chicago Usa  |
dant
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... Since 1950 League titles - AV 1, Spurs 2 FA Cups - AV 1, Spurs 6 European Cups (intertoto does not count) - AV 1, Spurs 3 League Cups - AV 5, Spurs 4 Total AV - 8 Spurs 15 Conversation over |
CSM
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...spurs have a larger fan base world wide,larger year on year revenue, and,soon to have a bigger stadium...look at Forbes list of the worlds largest clubs....Spurs 14th......but sadly, the list does not go down far enough ,to see villa...but thanks anyway ,i am going to have a smile on my face all day after reading these blogs...Come on you Spurs...2-0 Sounds like little man syndrome to me! |
Billys boots
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... Dant agreed John Logie Baird was only a minor when Villa won half of their titles. |
jimbo
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... Talk about picking your stats....,why since 1950? Why not include your second division winners trophy from 1949? Silverware is silverware. |
Chiefy
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...spurs have a larger fan base world wide Sorry to say but a bloke in the USA streaming the games on his laptop posting on a blog doesnt really count but good effort. 3rd team in London as opposed to the biggest in the midlands ????? soon to have a bigger stadium We are soon to win another cup but at the minute now which is relevant your ground is a hole that holds 30 odd thousand doesnt compare to our ground at all.............oh oh oh and yes we have planned re development next year which will again increase ours |
apocalypso
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... http://www.premierleague.com/p...06,00.html For all of the Spurs complaining that you have out performed us recently above is a link showing the premier league table for ALL matches played... In this time Aston Villa have picked up 52 more points than you guys. So we are historically more successful and recently more successful. Case closed |
astonguerrilla
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... At Churchill: That's a bit harsh of you mate. I may be wrong but I think Damian might deliberately have been playing devil's advocate in order to increase traffic through to this blog, it's his job to do that. |
croni
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... This game is really set up for us Playing away and ready to hit them on the counter. We have an excellent defense Spurs' full backs are useless and their wingers offer very little cover Spurs had a midweek game Heskey will pose problems for the Spurs' centre halves Ashley Young and Agbon really need to be on form if Villa are to win Villa to win |
Chiefy
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... Come the end of the season is when we can really have this argument at the minute BOTH teams are there or there about's. Tomorrow will show which team will have the edge (even though CITEHHH have the edge over us both at the minute). I hate Spurs but one of us has got to get Liverpool out of that fourth spot. I for one would like to say even though I hate Spurs if VILLA dont get fourth (which I think we will) but if they dont i would rather SPUDS than CITEHHHH |
Steveo
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... thats why we hate spurs fans " were having a new bigger stadium" whoopy f**king do ! tough game tommorrow and to difficult to predict, lets hope for a half hour cameo from carew and steel it at the end ! |
jimbo
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... I went into a shop the other day and there was an ad up saying "Spurs, the glory years. £100". I said f**k me thats a bit steep and the assistant said well it's a fiver for the video and £95 for the Betamax. |
Billys boots
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... so Chief, you hate liverpool, you hate City, you hate Spurs, i suppose you hate the rest of your midland rivals, i think you need some hate counselling mate, live your life stop hating start loving. Billy. |
Seb
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...Villa and Spurs fighting over who is bigger than who in the modern game(last 20 years)smacks of two bald men fighting over a comb.Such a good analogy I just thought it was worth repeating |
Billys boots
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... Jimbo, most of villa.s glory years cant even be viewed using Pathe news, television wasnt even invented as per John Logie Baird reference he was not born until 1888. |
keefvilla
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... In the words of the song "Have you ever won the European Cup, The European Cup, The European Cup... Have you won the European Cup, The European Cup, The European Cup..." |
rushe10
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... not been on here for a while..... but these dirty yids do my nut in, they seem to have the god gven sauve that they are amazing!!! do they not read the press, look at stats e.t.c i never have or never will predict a villa result as it's a superstition of mine, but my god i hate spurs and there 'we're the best attitude' when they are clearly not...... GO WASTE SOME MORE MONEY AND SOME DISCTINCTLY AVERAGE PLAYERS cockneys mugs |
Damian
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... churchill funny you should mention hangover. i acually do regret my comments now .. still, live and learn astonguerrilla not interested in driving traffic - the only affiliate money this site makes is through paddypower and that doesn't even cover the hosting for this site - or my bets each month sadly |
Royspur
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... Why bother arguing over who is the "bigger" club? It is not something you can measure between a pair of clubs so rooted in mediocrity in recent years that the term "big" becomes utterly meaningless. I say this as a Spurs fan. We once had a manager that said "It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory." These days, we set our sights on finishing fourth. Which means we set our sights on failure. As do Aston Villa. We're both sh#t in the grand scheme of things. Fighting over "bigger" club status just makes us look like pr!cks. Good luck Saturday Villans. |
jimbo
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... History is history mate, with or with out the invention of TV, we are more successful. You're a good feeder club I'll give you that, but there are only one or two players that I can se getting into a good London side like Fulham. No wonder your pitch looks so good by the way with 150 million's worth of shit on it ever week. |
SuperBox
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... Damian Nice work, you have done well to avoid this thread turning into a Villa v Spurs size debate, by mentioning it. If the next thread could be about Cheryl Cole, not coming to my house, and not for a shag, that would be great.... Tomst 'Spuds' is just a little joke, lighten up. We have many 'funny/childish' names for teams, I am sure you have some for Villa, if you don't, you should. I only wish other teams lent themselves to such punnery frankly |
CSM
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...... The most accurate post I have ever read from a spurs fan!!! |
Quinn
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... Listen you spurs mugs Villa have won more major trophies than your little club and we have won the biggest one in european club football something your tin pot outfit have never managed.for a big club why has it been 50 years or there abouts since you managed a league title. as to your teams prowess in front of goal if you spend 50m (compared to villas 10m) on strikers you should score more however we am only 2 points behind you with a game in hand.we all know you Spurs fans am bitter because your not the biggest club in the country not the biggest in london your not even the biggest club in north london and come saturday you wont even be the biggest club in white hart lane.. |
Doc Bowles
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... I think some Spurs fans miss the point about the whole "big club" debate. Football is played in cities, and the really Big Clubs are the No.1 clubs on their respective patch. Therefore, Man Utd = Big Club, Man City = Pretenders...Liverpool = Big Club, Everton = Pretenders, Nottingham Forest = Big Club, Notts County = Pretenders, Villa = Big Club, West Brom = Pretenders, ARSENAL = Big Club, Chelsea = Pretenders, Spurs = Also Rans. Sort out the bragging rights on your own patch first. |
keefvilla
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... SuperBox "If the next thread could be about Cheryl Cole, not coming to my house, and not for a shag, that would be great...." You will have to wait for John Terry to finish with her first...... |
Gwatkins
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... I work with a spurs fan and he is always telling me Spurs are "bigger" than villa and one of the Biggest clubs in Britain......I like to remind him though they aren't even the biggest club in North london, let alone Britain!! |
anon
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... I think Wolves,Birmingham and West Borm are bigger clubs than Villa! Villa are a non-entity, in recent history they haven't genuinely challenged for anything at all... Under O'Neill they are a better team than on paper you'd expect them to be (much like Everton under Moyes) - Villa however are not a big club at all, not that I'm saying spurs are either. Obviously I'm a spurs fan, full of expectation at the start of a season always to watch us under-achieve, but I don't ever look at Villa and predict them to win anything - they are no better than us at all really and we are proving to be no better than Villa. Big deal, let's all accept that, enjoy the footy, and hope one of us can break the top four. |
Quinn
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... spurs fans dont know much of football outside london. the london media make you out to be the second coming as they massage melted welly faces (redknapp)ego. VILA are quietly coming up and stealing your thunder and you dont like it ...IM VILLA TILL I DIE..IM VILLA TILL I DIE |
SuperBox
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... Big. adj 12: exhibiting self-importance; "big talk" [syn: boastful, braggart(a), bragging(a), braggy, cock-a-hoop, crowing, self-aggrandizing, self-aggrandising] That makes spurs fans 'bigger' according to the dictionary. |
Paul W
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... from skysports Aston Villa are preparing to offer James Milner a new contract over the summer. why not now?? after summer when he's won the world cup will cost us more, surely. oh and BTW - we're a bigger club than you spuds  |
Quinn
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... NO WONDER YOU LEFT YOUR NAME OFFF ANON BECAUSE THATS THE BIGGGEST LOAD OF TOSH YOU COULD HAVE EVER COME OUT WITH whilst villa havent exactly been ripping up trees we are far more successful than our midlands rivals. as for us not being a big club we are its a fact 1 of only 4 english teams to win european cup that big enough for you idiots. |
ronrabbit
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... Its clear what the problem is here. ITs like the argument you have with your wife when you have facts, and she just makes stuff up to say she is correct. We villa fans use stats and statistics, major honours lists to identify how succesful we are. Spurs use completly untestable arguments to suggest they are a bigger club, i.e: fan base. At the end of the day its the homeopath against the scientist. The homeopath may talk a good game but ultimatly there is no substance, where as the scientist quietly sits and delivers the facts. How many times have spurs been top of the european pile? Compare that to Villa, and you will all have your answer. |
Mostyn
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... We'll stop calling you Spuds, because you're quite right, it's childish and offensive. You'll be collectively known as a bunch of Cocks from now on. |
HeyNowHank
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... It is about that time of season that Spurs need to know their role and back down a bit. |
Badger
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...I think Wolves,Birmingham and West Borm are bigger clubs than Villa! I nearly wet myself laughing at this one Is this mug serious? Nice idea wanting to get it out of the way Damian, I don't think. I've no axe to grind over Spuds,(melted welly face apart) I've said before that us, they and Everton are probably on a very even footing. But it is annoying that other clubs can come on here and we can discuss the game, no problem. Whereas we always get this bickering with the Spuds. Oh well, I suppose it brightens up a traditionally quiet Friday. I'm sticking with 2-2 and I'd be happy with that. But obviously the win would be great. Whatever, I'm looking forward to a good game, as it generally always is when we play the spuds |
Steveo
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... very well supported spurs are, how many tickets did they sell for the leeds game the other night |
ronrabbit
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... FOr a post on the match i fancy 2-2 to be honest, think sprs will start strong not score, we will start to move the midfield get a goal, and spurs will equalise late in half, same thing will happen in the second. My second prediction is 2-0 villa, spurs cant get the ball in the net, we get a goal and then hit them on the counter late in the game. Cant see us losing, our defence will deal with defoe and crouch, and the switching of our midfield will cause spurs problems. |
seano_star
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... Spurs will never be a big club. I'm suprised half of them can see their computer screens because it must be dark in the shadows. They won some micky mouse tournaments (that they pass off as european achievment lmao) a good few years ago and have prided themselves on signing mercanaries and journey men. The london media just create the impression they are big and mighty, with all the spin, when really it's just like polishing a turd. They can have all the deluded expectations they want but in football terms i don't think that merits success, especially when you consider they have no history to warrant that kind of expectation. Spurs are more like a sleeping gnome...the whinging little brother. "Hope is a dangerous thing" |
RockSteady
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... My god - do Villa fans act like this on Spurs blogs? This is comical. It reminds of being 5 yeas old in the school yard arguing 'My Dad's bigger than your Dad'. Simple fact is, villa and spurs are on a par this season. Should we fail to get 4th spot, I would like spurs to get it as I can't stand MC and FSW. Let's just hope its a good game and defoe breaks a leg in the next 24 hrs |
cartel
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... lol at all the villa fans bragging about being the "biggest club in the midlands vs spurs who are not even the biggest in london" what sort of crap is that??? look at the teams who come from our capital city and then look at the absolute crap that play in the midlands! what a shit point!!! thats like some lowly crackhead pimp saying to brad pitt look at all me bitchez and you only have one! |
keefvilla
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... What makes a 'big' club? I suggest it is honours won, how well they do in the league and support/amount of people paying to watch games. Major Honours Aston Villa Spurs League Champions 7 2 FA Cup 7 8 League Cup 5 4 European Cup 1 0 Euro Super Cup 1 0 UEFA Cup 0 2 Cup Winners Cup 0 1 Total 21 17 Attendances 2009/10 Total Average Aston Villa 453,047 37,753 Spurs 429,22935,769 Premier League overall Aston Villa979 points Spurs 927 points Villa win every time!! |
seano_star
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... Royspurs, that's what you still do. The only difference is your not 6 anymore but he is |
Royspur
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... Quinn said: ... Lenny Henry is a black country boy hes from Dudley you idiot. Dudley, Birmingham, it's all that hell hole they call the Midlands |
darrenvilla26
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... cockney scum m'lord cockney scum cockney scum m'lord cockney scum cockney scum m'lord cockney scum ohhhh lord cockney scum wrinkly face m'lord wrinkly face wrinkly face m'lord wrinkly face wrinkly face m'lord wrinkly face ohhhhh lord wrinkly face wem-ber-ley m'lord wem-ber-ley wem-ber-ley m'lord wem-ber-ley wem-ber-ley m'lord wem-ber-ley ohhh lord wem-ber-ley |
The Burp
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... London - dirtiest least friendly and most crime ravaged city in Europe - manager with face like a foreskin - complete tosser - Jamie Redknapp - complete tosser - Glen Hoddle, Daren Anderton, Defoe and anything else associated with Spurs and all of the shiny Tottenham ponses all complete tossers - wannabee Mockney fans - complete tossers- ponsey white kit - tossers the lot of them I fekking hate Spurs. |
Badger
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...very well supported spurs are, how many tickets did they sell for the leeds game the other night This is a good point actually. I was really surprised that the only reason it wasn't a sellout was because Spuds hadn't sold their allocation. 2500 not sold, IIRC? Seeing as they are supposed to have such a massive fanbase, I found it quite strange. |
Badger
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... CHIEFY!!!! SHOCK NEWS!!!! I may leave Villa admits Salifou http://www.expressandstar.com/...s-salifou/ |
Quinn
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... whose that coming after redknapp is it the taxman... is it the taxman.. the thieving cockney criminal if i defrauded the state out of half a million id be doing 5 years not managing a team. |
Irish_villain
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... Wouldnt a villa spurs FA cup final be sweet to settle this petty argument! I for one am looking forward to the game based on recent results, we've been pretty close in terms of head to head games, ie: 4-4, us winning at White Hart Lane last year and Spurs winning at VP last year. But i do think this will shed a little light on the race for foruth. I for one would happily hand over 4th, provided it wasnt FSW or City, for the two domestic trophies. |
Irish_villain
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... Corluka wont last very long on Sat against our 3 Red arrows, Downing(who wasnt playing at VP), Webcam Jimmy 'runs alot' Milner. |
Badger
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...Villa will be wearing the away strip for the tie against Manchester United. The decision was made yesterday meaning Villa will play United for the first time in away colours in a major final, after previously beating United twice in home colours. http://www.avfcforums.com/view...24#p150624 I hope that's not a bad omen. |
Seb
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...I was really surprised that the only reason it wasn't a sellout was because Spuds hadn't sold their allocation.http://www.football.co.uk/match_reports/aston_villa_blackburn_rovers_3099515.shtml |
Chiefy
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...I hope that's not a bad omen Nope it just means we will whoop them even more now !!! SALIFOU DONT DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Chiefy
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... Terry your a mug and it serves you right you tit !!!! Salifou dont leave us who else will cut the oranges as neat as you do for half time |
AVFC 4 LIFE UTV
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... to all the spuds fans saying that they are going to have a bigger stadium- well newcastle have a bigger stadium than chelsea are they bigger than them- they also have a bigger stadium than liverpool aswell, and also u say you have bigger support because well 7 million people live in london, also dont forget tottenham have the support of the no-foreskin crew |
George Templeton
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... Spurs 0, Aston Villa 1 a goal from Richard Dunne on a set piece (maybe even a repeat of this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...e=related start at 44 seconds) |
Chiefy
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...Salifou dont leave us who else will cut the oranges as neat as you do for half time Sidwell's a trier but his oranges are shit and DELPH is far to good for doing that job. Osbourne is out on loan and you will be damned if EMULE is doing it he will eat them all. SO SALIFOU do you really want to deprive the team of such precisely cut, well sized slices of orange at half time, is that really what you want to do really ??? you even have your own song now at least we no you are there now, shame it took nearly getting shot for us to notice but still |
Badger
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... SEB, Yes, that was a bit disappointing I suppose, but not helped by BB fans not bothering to turn up. They hardly sold any of their tickets. I personally thought the Leeds - Spuds game was a much bigger one myself. Whatever, I was coming at it from the "massive fanbase" that's always talked about by Spuds fans. |
Badger
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...Terry got the bullet as captian. I guessed he would. But I reckon it'll only be temporary. That's certainly how I would play it if I was Capello. Something along the lines of "I've got no choice, the media want a lynching and it's only for a couple of games until the fuss dies down. You're still my main man, no worries" |
rockyvilla
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... have read the heading WHITE HART LANE and all the comments. This should have been its own blog thread. I dont get into all this "my club is bigger than yours" arguement but it passes away a slow day now transfer window and all its speculation has gone. I like Defoe and Crouch and hope we can contain them saturday.Think we will really miss warnock closing Defoe down. If we had bought Keane he would almost certainly have scored for us in this game with so much to prove. Im hoping Big John will come on and put some REAL effort in, on his day he is awesome but those days are too infrequent. Would be happy with a 4-4 draw if we couldn't win it as can see defoe scoring as he is on fire at the moment. We need Gabby and Ash full of confidence. |
Badger
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...european cup final = away strip Excellent point, extremely well made. Shame, the Spuds won't know what we're talking about |
rockyvilla
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... Sorry to hear Salifouuuuuuuu looking to go out on loan. Can anyone who has seen him play say if they think he is good enough or has shown enough promise to get a chance in the first team as he is struggling to get on the bench. Think it great the crowd sing his name especially considering recent events.Think he needs to be playing now to give him an outlet from his flashbacks. Think that if we had a song for all the first team squad that player would have a massive boost in the game when their song was sung. It could even be played over the tannoy before the games to warm the vocals of the fans and create the atmosphere for when the game starts. Like a warm up act, the team could hit the ground running then and really up for it. |
Seb
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... Badger - It's just so frustrating going through this argument every time we play each other. Both big clubs with big histories who have been average for a number of years, and whose fans are clutching onto the past by there finger nails instead of living in the present. Some people just need to learn to grow up and support thier own team |
McParland
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... I for one do not care one bit about the silly arguments about who is bigger than who comments,all i am concerned about is we do not lose to spuds or manu and if a win is there for the taking grab them with both hands because that will give us a realy great chance considering our final run in of games. And after watching leeds give them more than a good run over two games i am very confident we can go to white hart lane and upset their fragile apple cart if our lads truly want too. UP THE VILLA. |
ak_27
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...It's just so frustrating going through this argument every time we play each other. Both big clubs with big histories who have been average for a number of years, and whose fans are clutching onto the past by there finger nails instead of living in the present. Some people just need to learn to grow up and support thier own team I honestly think what fuels it from Villa's side (for me at least) is the massive media coverage Spurs get in comparison to Villa even though both clubs are in reality very closely matched. |
vivavilla
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... Spurs are a better team than us. Sorry, but you can't disguise it. Far more quality and cutting edge. Best we can hope is to frustrate them and they have one of those games where nothing goes in (Stoke, Wolves), because they'll have a hatful of chances. |
SidCowanslovechild
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... What a waste of energy. We should both win some cups and regularly qualify for champs league before we go off on the big club tip. I guess some enjoy the ruck but it's not exactly sparkling banter - waste of time |
Seb
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...I honestly think what fuels it from Villa's side (for me at least) is the massive media coverage Spurs get in comparison to Villa even though both clubs are in reality very closely matched.I can't say I've ever compared the media coverage of the two sides although I have noticed that spurs get a high proportion of headlines. However (lots of media attention) + (a distinctly average team) = lots of negative press which is mostly unwarrented. Arguably it helps us attract players who wouldn't ordinarily sign but I often wish we 'flew under the radar' a bit more because it tends undermines anything which happens on the pitch, good or bad |
AVFC 4 LIFE UTV
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... THIS IS A TEAM MADE UP OF TOTTENHAM AND VILLA PLAYERS- FRIEDAL L.YOUNG DUNNE DAWSON WARNOCK LENNON MILNER KRANJCAR A.YOUNG DEFOE AGBONLAHOR As for Dawson i hate him but i think he has had a good season so far, whereas ash is the opposite hasnt done to well this season but will come good. dont tell me people would rather have crouch in the team cus gabby WILL ALWAYS score more than that bean pole. |
Badger
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...Some people just need to learn to grow up and support thier own team I agree Seb. It is odd though, as I said it's only with Spuds that we get this. Of course there's always banter with other club's fans, but it always seems to become vitriolic with your lot. What's even stranger to me is nearly all of the spuds fans I've met in real life seem to respect the Villa. And the vast majority of Villa fans respect Spuds. Weird. Anyway best of luck, but not too much obviously. I always like watching your mugs. You play the game properly. |
pepsi head
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... villa have won the european cup more than all the london teams put together and also last season spurs ended up only the 3rd best team in london behind chelsea arsenal and mighty fulham!! |
AVFC 4 LIFE UTV
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... oh yeah i actually forgoot to put your best okayer in-modric him in then ash young out |
Badger
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...Spurs are a better team than us. Sorry, but you can't disguise it. Far more quality and cutting edge. Give over viva. If they were so far ahead of us, why aren't they way in front of us in the league? And given that I've just been discussing our remaining fixtures on a spuds site where the agreement was that we have the easiest run-in, surely we've played the harder games too. Don't discount our quality, is my point. I think any result is possible tomorrow and even a 4 or 5 nil tonking either way really wouldn't surprise me. We're both inconsistent. Which is bloody annoying. |
doubledown9
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... Christ is this nonsense still going on. Just thought id let you all know I shall be attending the Burnley game. I even managed to get tickets quite near my old season ticket. I shall be with my 69 year old mother, therefore any bad language will result in a swift clip around the ear. So best behavior lads. |
IrishVillain
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... Hook line and sinker. I don't even know if this was intended as a wind up, either way it's pretty funny reading. |
Badger
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...I don't even know if this was intended as a wind up I very much suspect he knew exactly what he was doing even though he says he regrets it. I'll bet he regrets how many Spuds fan's posts he's had to block though |
andy5759
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... Nowt wrong with Spuds, the Barrow Boy has got them organised and playing rather well. Tomorrow's game should be a cracker. I will try to get to a Spurs pub for the game, always good for a bit of harmless banter. Of course we each think our own club is the biggest, best club in whole world. It would be wrong to think otherwise. With the luck of the draw we'll see each other again in the FA Cup final. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... tomst its obvious spuds dominated the 2 nd half at villa park, demolished us even, ye were on a high from ye're magnificent 9-1 demolison job of wigan. We had sidwell in the middle and milner on the right. I think this game is too hard to call, we are in a better position now in terms of playing it about than we were back then, in a few months we have improved a lot on the ball, with milner now in the middle and downing in the team. Cullear at right back is our real weakness, a good central defender put not great in 1 v 1 situations, gets dragged out of position and and keeps hoofing it up the line every time he has space. This game is too close to call any result wudnt surprise me witha home win, away win and most likely a draw. Defoe and gabby back in a bit of form to add extra spice. I cant return your kind words that if we dont get 4th i hope you do. Personally i still think everton will come out of nowhere and if they beat the pool i think they will be back in it. I remeber last year after a bad start they kept winning and winning after xmas and eventaully pipped us for 5th which is unbelievable, if they can repeat that, and they have a fine squad with fine players coming back they willbe dark horses, as for your club i wouldt piss on it if a jew offered my a pound of flesh. come on the villa!!! |
Greg Davillain1887
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... ya andy, now arteta is back, pinear is playing well, cahill scoring again, saha scoring and signing a new contract, good decent squad, ur man biilyanv (da russian dude) fellaini, decent defense, yakuba to come back etc, there only 8 points behind us after having a terrible run. last year i kept looking for their result after ours and they jsut kept winning, theyve shown they can bring through good younsters too, so if anyone is to do it other than us id like to see them do it and after last years evidence they are capable of putting a consistant run of wins together. If we can do our job we needed worry of course but better them than spuds. Plus to all the spuds fans who say they are having a better season, take away 3 points from your game in hand and we are ahead of u in the league, in the league cup final and im hoping to meet and knock u out of the fa cup. |
Damian
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... Badger i think if anything, we have learnt something today and i think what we have learnt is quite valuable did have to block a few comments though. i´m going to enjoy it when we win tomorrow |
Badger
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...i think if anything, we have learnt something today and i think what we have learnt is quite valuable I've learnt that Viva is a closet Spuds fan  i´m going to enjoy it when we win tomorrow So will I mate. But I's say that if we were playing Barrow |
Mostyn
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... Well done England. Got rid of a Hypocritical cheat and replaced him with a violent twisted mouthed arrogant pleb. I hope Ferdinand gets injured before the World cup. |
Jae86
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... Birmingham's greatest contribution to mankind? Lenny Henry. If you wanted to offend us why choose a loveable comedian, when you could have chosen Adrian Shitbeard Chiles. And besides Birminghams biggest contribution to the world was the spitfire so without Birmingham there possibly would e no england. bt if we are talking celebrities you are forgetting Ozzy Osbourne and Noddy holder We also have Europes largest shopping centre |
McParland
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... I would be happy with the draw today ,and one thing i have certainly lernt today is we definately need a good set of sharp teeth as in strike force. UP THE VILLA |
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