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Aston Villa beat Sunderland with a bit of style and a passing game

At the end of the first half I was sure my man of the match was going to be Carlos Cueller. He was everywhere and I picked him despite James Milner setting up the opening goal for Emile Heskey and that moment really did put a smile on my face.

However, after James Milner scored what I described on Twitter, or didn´t really describe, as ´wonderful isn´t a good enough word - 30 yards out .. superb´, I changed my mind.

Now, I have absolutely no doubt some of you will say I should start to get a little more optimistic, but I´m not going to just yet, but tonight was much better than a few weeks ago and it was against a team that can play decent football and at the very least, make it very difficult.

I´m also not going to say it is just me, but a lot of us on this site were calling for James Milner to be put in the middle a long long time ago and since he has played in the middle, you just have to be happy.

With Milner in the middle we have stopped hitting long and instead, we look to pass the ball about. The first goal came from us wanting to pass and while it was only two or three passes, it was passing and it worked.

There was also a moment in the second half that led to Ashley Young hitting the post when we must have had fifteen passes in the build up and it was lovely to watch. Really, really lovely.

Anyway, this is just a news post, tomorrow there will be a double bubble post-mortem as I didn´t get round to one for the United game. I´m going to go sit and think for a while.

For the record also, I´m not getting carried away, but it is much better. There is still a very large chunk of the season to go and I have a feeling January will be very important.

Last season, Arsenal did what they had to in January and today, Red Rafa has guaranteed top four for Liverpool, so I expect them to spend big on one or two players and basically, I think we need to also.

We will see, but the football is looking much better, we are passing it about and looking more composed. I´m a very happy Aston Villa fan tonight and I have a feeling you lot will be too.

Did I mention we are back up to third and that Richard Dunne and Carlos Cueller were both excellent? Anyway, goodnight.

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ryan h said:

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brilliant lads what a week so far
Comment 1, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.42 pm

Lukas said:

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Brap!!
Sunderland threw everything yet, not enough.
Good hard win there and well happy!
Comment 2, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.43 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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47% possession.
I'm saying nothing.
Comment 3, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.43 pm

kieron said:

ronvilla
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I'm getting excited again, I think we can do top 4!! They have just asked the question on brmb - Is this the best Villa side since the European cup winning team?

Come on Villa!!
Comment 4, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.43 pm

Carl Main said:

Maindog
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You beut!...Loving it!...Is there any highlights on tonight?
Comment 5, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.43 pm

James Clift said:

Jimbo Daventry Villa
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Milners goal was world class as he is steadily becoming. Fantastic result!
Comment 6, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.44 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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3 wins in a row, 3 clean sheets in a row. It's looking nice isn't it?

You're right Damian, since Milner moved into the middle and Downing entered the team, the long balls have reduced massively in favour of a much neater passing game. It's hardly surprising though is it? Where Milner players now is a position that used to be occupied by either Sidwell or Reo-Coker. Since neither of them is a decent passer of the ball it's very difficult to link plays together through midfield. Hence, out come the long balls.

So perhaps all this time it was O'Neill's intention to play this way? Maybe the long balls were put in place to protect us from a dangerous fate? Who knows.
Comment 7, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.44 pm

kingfisher villa said:

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damien you said not long ago what a waste of money milner wassmilies/grin.gif
Comment 8, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.44 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
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I'm guessing in a few weeks time when we get beat by someone, these two results will be classed as flukes.

Can MON take us where we need to go?

Smug.
Comment 9, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.44 pm

Nick said:

Van Dutch
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There was also a moment in the second half that led to Ashley Young hitting the post when we must have had fifteen passes in the build up and it was lovely to watch. Really, really lovely.


Thats quite an O'Neill comment Damian smilies/wink.gif Haven't seen much about the match but i'll watch some highlights tonight. What I did hear sounded good.
Comment 10, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.45 pm

Adey Stuttard said:

1874AVFC
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And scored in all but one game so far! Missed the Milner goal, stream went down smilies/angry.gif

Well played Villa, awesome!
Comment 11, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.46 pm

Stuart Kinane said:

mattyhislop
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Good write up Damian. Absolutely delighted with the lads and the result tonight. I fully agree with you on Carlos Cuellar - the guy has been a sort of unsung hero for us this season. His performances have been great and his no-probs attitude at being moved around the back four a bit is great to see. UTV!
Comment 12, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.46 pm

McParland said:

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Can not argue with that 2.0 win up the north east always going to be very difficult but coming off a win at old trafford you DID NOT bottle it lads great performance and result.
Comment 13, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.47 pm

BaltimorePete said:

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here's my ratings based on a top class performance:

Friedel - 8, only called into action twice. Must be hard to keep concentration
L Young - 9, amazing player
Cuellar - 8
Dunne - 11, unbelievable
Warnock - 8
A Young - 7
Petrov - 8
Milner - 9, goal of the year? Excellent work rate
Downing - 6
Agbonlahor - 6
Heskey 7
Comment 14, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.48 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
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Maindog highlights on ss1
UTV
Comment 15, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.48 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
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ss1 1030pm
Comment 16, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.49 pm

fastbackace said:

fastbackace
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if young could return to form...

i dare say it... we could challenge for the league title.
Comment 17, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.49 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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kingfisher villa
i dont think i ever said that .. but still, you get away with it tonight, becasue i think since he has played in the middle, we have seen better football from him

nan
maybe - maybe the football is a fluke and o´neill has nothing to do with it. maybe if however we continue playing football like this and we strengthen in january we stay strong and continue playing football like this. maybe

but the football is looking better and it isn´t as long. i hope to god it isn´t a fluke and i pray also that this is down to o´neill and not just the opposition

but we will find out. if it is just fluke - surely then it is clear as day that if he cant get them to play like this that something has to change
Comment 18, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.51 pm

Pauluus said:

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this years team just feels better that last years, i don't think that we are going to lose the plot like we did after Laursen exited. that gives me real hope that this year we might well make it in to the top four.
Millners move into the middle has a natural feel to it and Downing has slotted in perfectly too. for the first time in a few years I'm actually looking forward to the second half of the season without (much) trepidation.
the best part is that it felt like Villa played the whole game in third gear. we didn't even break a sweat, and thats a really exciting thought.
Comment 19, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.54 pm

Nick said:

nick_not_nicky
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I only caught the second half of the game on the internet. But it was funny as Milner had the ball and was driving towards the middle I was screaming at him to move the ball wide to Downing, instead he hit a magnificent goal.

But right now it looks like Milner is that creative central midfielder everyone has been calling for. Like Damian said when he gets the ball he looks to drive forward and keep the ball on the deck. This as well as having Heskey in the team and playing well linking play up gives us a different dimension.

Cuellar and Dunne were fabulous at the back again. Jones and Bent are a very good front two but we kept them pretty quiet today. At least what I saw.
Comment 20, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.54 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
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Damian

Downing was the vital piece.

I think he has finished his construction work. There'll be nothing coming in Jan.
Comment 21, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.55 pm

jc_villa said:

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Great all round team performance as it is becoming every week. Milner is turning in to a excellent attacking midfielder and the playmaker weve been needing for ages.

Lets just hope for a draw in the city - spurs game tomorrow smilies/grin.gif
Comment 22, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.56 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
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great result,should we set our aims higher than 4th.lets smash the f*ck out of stoke now.typical NAN comment just like after man u game
Comment 23, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.57 pm

robb david said:

ronrabbit
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I said James Milner was the new frank lampard after the last 3 games. He has proved it again today, He is simply brilliant in that centre midfield role, he is better than lampard was at his age, he is better tahn gerrard was at his age. He is the best player i have seen in a villa shirt since Paul Merson, he has everything, creativity, ferocious shot, tracks back, massive work engine.
Richard Dunne at centre back, brilliant, if jolean Lescott is 19million pound better then him, then im a dutch man, if rio ferdinand is 25million pound better than him, then im not from this planet, If John Terry is worth 80million more than him, then im not even from this universe. For me on this form he is the best centre back in the league.
This villa team is exciting, fluid, attacking, strong defensivly, hard working, creative, can play through the middle, can play down the wings, can score agaist any defence, can defend against any attack. This is the best villa side for a long long time.
Are we allowed to be excited? Its pretty hard not to be, ew are better than man city, we are better that tottenham, we are better than liverpool, are we better than arsenal? we will find out soon enough.
Im excited by the team, by the football, by the prospects, i havent been this excited in along time, and we have a semi final to look forward to, im trying to keep grounded but its pretty difficult at the moment.
I would also like to credit o'neill, we are quick to have a go, i am especially quick, but i have to say he has got it right, he has built a top 4 team, all he has to do is steer it to its rightful place.
Comment 24, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.57 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Mmmmm, tastes nice doesn't it? Time to think about the League Title.
Comment 25, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.57 pm

Josh said:

DizzyVillan
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Really nice to see Villa pass it about with confidence and style, Milner and Downing have really transformed this team into something that has a great chance of cracking the top 4, and on the optimistic side, we're 5 points off the title!

Friedel - 7. Some crucial saves, strong and confident coming to punch away crosses too.

Young - 7. Did everything he could to make sure we kept a clean sheet.
Cuellar - 8. Fast becoming the best piece of business to come from the Scottish league ever.
Dunne - 8. As always, unbeatable and brave.
Warnock - 7. Didn't see too much of the ball in spells but as always put his body on the line, and some nice link up play with Ash.

Downing - 7. Hit the post, got some good crosses in that just needed a tap, and general link up play was good.
Petrov - 8. Controlling, calm, and was more attacking than usual.
Milner - 8.5. Great goal, as always gave 300% and used the ball to great effect.
Young - 7. Also hit the post, good passing play.

Agbonlahor - 6.5. Didn't have a tremendous effect on the game, but as always ran until he could no longer.
Heskey - 6.5 On quite a few occasions broke up our attacks with poor passing. But hey, grabbed a goal and was decent in the air, fair play.
Comment 26, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.58 pm

BaltimorePete said:

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last piece of jigsaw in Jan will be a natural 20M+ goal poacher. Wish the Fonz was on the bench tonight. Don't see the reason in having both Sidwell and Reo-K as subs.
Comment 27, made on December 15, 2009 at 8.59 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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I thought Richard Dunne was head and shoulders above everyone else. What a defender. What a defensive set up. All 5 top quality.

Great win once we got it down and played some football(first 20 we didn't put a pass together and just kept hitt missles for some reason). It was a bit patchy in stages but a great win and a real indicator to where we are going in my opinion.

Milner was also top notch in the centre. smilies/grin.gif
Comment 28, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.02 pm

robb david said:

ronrabbit
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I actually think that team is good enough to challenge for the league title, i dont think we have the squad for that. But that villa team could beat anybody. Aston Villa can beat everybody, and we have proved it. We have beat Man Utd and Chelsea this year, we have proved we can beat the best, and we are starting to show the consistancy to beat everyone else as well.
Comment 29, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.02 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
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Good to see us keeping with 442 even away from home. Heskey definitely helps to link the middfield in to attack.
Comment 30, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.03 pm

Jamie1910 said:

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first time posting here, thought i'd share the article from the times for those bloggers to refer to when results may not go our way, in the meantime lets unjoy 3rd place

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/matt_dickinson/article6956765.ece
Comment 31, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.06 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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I actually think that team is good enough to challenge for the league title


I think we are a bit short yet. 2 players at least.

I would have Andy Reid at Villa in the morning. He ran the show for Sunderland and would to see him picking out passes for Gabby to run ont. He has serious ability on the ball. He would be my Jan playmaker signing. Add Keane to that and you have 3 Irish players which is what we had the last time we were a real force. smilies/wink.gif
Comment 32, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.09 pm

proxopera said:

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Every position on the field is as sorted as we can ever expect with one exception . They work hard but neither Heskey or Carew have the cutting edge needed at this level.I think O'Neill should either throw the fonz in at the deep end or else buy one good striker . If teams start putting up barricades against Villa which they undoubtledty will,should this form continue , I just cant see villa eeking out the necessary single goal victories required.
I believe Villa will crack the top 4 , but now i'm getting greedy , I want more than that.

Comment 33, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.09 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I reckon we should wait until after the Arsenal and Liverpool games before we really assess how far we've come.
Comment 34, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.14 pm

Greg said:

Greg Davillain1887
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but the football is looking better and it isn´t as long. i hope to god it isn´t a fluke and i pray also that this is down to o´neill and not just the opposition


ok damian please enough of the 'maybes; already. You should know its a lot down to the manager at this stage. Need i say Old Trafford, Enfield And chelsea = 9 points. Is that down to the opposition. Im in the same boat as you as everytime as villa have seemed to turn a corner in recent history it has always been a false dawn.

I just say enjoy this as we can as Oneill and this team may not be around forever, fergie is getting on a bit, Benitiz is delirious and Cappello will step down in a couple of years.

Is this sort of risk in losing your manager to man u liverpool or england the sign that the rise of villa could only 'maybe' down to the manager??? get a grip u dont have to believe that we are gona win the league just yet but its his team now.

Well done the VILLA!
Comment 35, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.14 pm

mlismore98542 said:

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Now I read from this website every time a link is posted, but I don't post, but DAMIAN as I read time and time again, post after post no matter what the results your always negative in some shape of form, you honestly sound like an Arsenal fan than a villa one. I think any fan would love to play like Arsenal but there are very very few teams out there that can, only just a few. Write from a fan's point a view not like a reporter you sound like TONY CASCARINO, be happy your constant negativity annoys me. sorry to be so straightforward in the good times at the moment but please for us villa fans be happy.
Comment 36, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.15 pm

Jamie1910 said:

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or perhaps have a read of this article whilst we are on a high

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/dec/15/villa-growing-menace-threat-liverpool

things are looking good
Comment 37, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.16 pm

Eoin Greene said:

eoin1981
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Great result and another very encouraging performance. That build up to Youngs shot was light years away from anything seen by us since well forever!!
Dunne was absolutely unreal tonight and he is allready the leader of our team, the one the players look up to. I wouldn't swap him for any center half in the league.
Warnock once again was class - and he is consistently class. I'd really have trouble picking Ashley Cole ahead of him - in fact I wouldn't!!
I have to say that Milner is really winning me over. I am probably the last person he needed to convert - but he used to drive me crazy on the wing - hitting the first man with his crosses. Put him in the middle though and all his qualities come through - he really has great potential as a box to box midfielder. One year ago if you said he has more potential that Young I would have fell over laughing - now there is no doubt in my mind but he has!
Finally after all my slating of MoN - gotta give him some credit - our football is showing some ambition, something i hadn't seen in three years. Ambition - thats all I ask for! And the league title. And Europe. And Messi. And a super soaker from santa.
Comment 38, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.18 pm

Magicnick said:

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One thing I've never liked about this blog is the smug assuredness that comes across from the writer. This is a writer who regularly belittles MON's tactic's, and talks with the voice of the atypical moronic fan; "someone who knows best".

Here he mentions he spotted the Milner CM opportunity "ages" ago as if it is something MON's only just spotted. But this is to do a disservice to our manager - we've been unable to play him in the middle till we had Downing, unless we're considering giving Albrighton ago? This is the same author who also despised Milner; and by that I mean he really really didn't rate him.

I've only just come back to this blog, I got bored. The articles have become depressingly familiar and largely unjustified. Yes, we won but we were awful yada yada yada.

Yawn
Comment 39, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.18 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Greg

It's a good point, but by the same token we've taken 2 points from Wigan, Blackburn, Wolves and Burnley. Surely by your logic that's also down to the manager too.
Comment 40, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.19 pm

Danvillan said:

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Nan can't be a fan.what a run of results may it long continue. Arsenal followed by Liverpool will be the big test. UTV
Comment 41, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.20 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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mlismore98542

i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. really, i thought i couldn´t be surprised anymore by a comment
Comment 42, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.20 pm

Gavin Merriman said:

MerryMan
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What a great result. Really is starting to become time to believe. So happy to see us pass it around more.

Hope we have the mental strength to keep it going beating stoke and taking at least a point from arsenal.

Still need a good creative support striker or attacking centre mid in the window. If downing and milner get injured or need a rest we need to keep passing the ball.

What a result! What a manager! What a team!
Comment 43, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.21 pm

Robbie Wells said:

Robbie
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I'm with Damo on not wanting to get too excited yet...I always read the comments on this site, and I remember some comments after we drew to Spurs; a Spurs side who were as high on confidence as they are ever likely to be, and they were depressing. 3 games later and we're title challengers all of a sudden. I know we're looking better with Jimmy in centre mid, and things are looking up, but as a Villa fan, you know you're never too far away from playing shite against someone just like Stoke.

And mlismore98542, you claim to read this site? Really?
Comment 44, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.24 pm

amar Sunar said:

Aston.Villain
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milner is the next gerrard.
Comment 45, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.24 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
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MON is a genius.
Comment 46, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.26 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Magicnick
like i said .. actually, i cant be arsed. it is in black and white above - but i do like the way you say we couldn´t play milner in the middle until downing was available with such assuredness. funny that

we have won tonight. the football was better. but there are still some that just want to have a pop. the mind boggles. maybe they would prefer it if i just changed my opinion to ´we are not going to win unless we hit long´ and when we start doing that, change it to ´we need to pass along the ground´

i dont change my views or opinions and by all means comment on that but dont make stuff up either. i have never ´despised´ milner but no, i didn´t actually rate him that high on the right wing but i di dpush for centre of midfield a long time ago and he seems to be doing okay doesn´t he

hell, even capello thinks he is better on the left
Comment 47, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.27 pm

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
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you quite often questioned the money we paid for milner, damian and suggested that 6 or 7 would be more appropriate

surely you will soon be writing a post to formally apologies to james milner?
Comment 48, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.27 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Celtic_Villan

no, absolutely not. if he was a £12mn right winger then he would be playing in that position now but he isn´t

he is doing a decent jon in the middle and had he played there from the beginning it might have been different but he also still has a long way to go to prove himself - it takes more than just a few games - it takes a good season or two

sorry, but it takes a little more than just a few games for me

Comment 49, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.31 pm

john said:

johnnyuk
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An absolutely fantastic result and very pleased to see James Milner got what he deserved. He's one of the most hard working players I've seen and goes to put our over paid primadonas at international level from recent years to shame. It's players like him who deserve to go to South Africa...

On a side note, I'm not one to get carried away by hype, but I usually stay quietly confident even when we have down time. But at the moment, I think Villa have overnight become a very attractive team to be playing for. We're a team that is a bit like a rough diamond, still rough round the edges and finding its way, with younger players turning into very very good players indeed.

I think if we can maintain the kind of form we're on now, even for a litle while longer, prove that we can finish at the very least 5th in the league, i think if that were to happen then IF Mon were to go in for some more prestigious players, such as the Van der Vaarts and the Modric's, then I think we've definitely reached a point where we could be considered a viable and attactive option to these types of players. I'm very optimistic about supporting the villa (and have done for over 20 years now)
Comment 50, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.32 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
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Damian,

Changing your views and opinions about things can be a good thing. It makes you more open to ideas and suggestions that differ from your own. Your views and opinions have been proved wrong on more than one occasion.
Comment 51, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.36 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
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FFS why the pops at damian,we`ve just played a great game won and gone third.celtic villain did milner look like he was a 12 mill player when we signed him.the way he`s playing now i`d have him in englands starting eleven ahead of barry,fat frank and gerrardsmilies/wink.gif
Comment 52, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.37 pm

HT Sweden said:

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The question is, once again, can MON, now when Villa is in the zone, make sure that Ash,Gabby,Downing,Milner put pen to paper and sign a long, new deal? Our young gods are humans too, and can be tempted to leave for the right offer. But together in Villa they can go far beyond what money can buy and become legends. Hope they realize that...
Comment 53, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.38 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Positive posters moan when we win about the negative posters, when we lose the negative posters say the positive ones are idiots

I have a pop sometimes at the negative posters but at least only when we lose in defence of the team

When we win and the negatives are positive, let's all just enjoy it

While I'm at it, I suggested Milner in the middle first so I'm the genius! Although admittedly I thought he should be a holding midfielder, a goal a game later.......

When we do lose lets not all sh1t ourselves
Comment 54, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.39 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
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Rocky5
Which was my 'typical NAN comment'?

Danvillan
Which of my posts suggests I'm not a fan?

Am I missing something here?
Comment 55, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.39 pm

mlismore98542 said:

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Believe me I read this site a lot, and I look no further into the future than the next game because there is going to come a time when we have a blip I know that and every other villa fan knows that. I know like every other premier league manager know's what probably are strengths and weakness are every team has them. Were not Arsenal and we will never play like that, but what we have is something Arsenal will never have Team Spirit, so just come to terms that were not gonna play like that type of passing football. We can pass the ball about brilliant at some times just not how you want it. Maybe its just me that reads it that way but I have read a few other comments similar to mine.
Comment 56, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.41 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Nan to be fair whenever Villa win a game your first post is usually to have a sarcastic pop at "so called fans". You contribute a lot of good stuff to this site so it's just a shame this is more often than not the case.
Comment 57, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.42 pm

cockneyvillan said:

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Two great away results , the last team to beat sunderland at home was chelsea.. The football we are playing of late seems very assured , i dont seem to panic lately.. dunne was great tonight, the best ive seen him play for us & right now hesky is doing a great job for the team and deserves his place!

I might change my nick to cockeyvillan at this rate!! smilies/wink.gif
Comment 58, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.42 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Nan is a tremendously positive Villa fan although a bit more timid this season having got a bit carried away last season. Nan's a legend, leave him alone
Comment 59, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.43 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
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I'm glad MON didn't fork out silly money for the greedy foreigners like Bosingwa. Milner has been consistently playing at a high standard for a long time. This has been recognised by Capello and he'll be first on the plane to SA.
Comment 60, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.43 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Mostyn
when? i only ask, because you say it so confidently
Comment 61, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.44 pm

Greg said:

Greg Davillain1887
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viva villain,

my logic is if you are a team in the doldrums for years, and suddendly you get a new owner who is prepared to give a nice bit of money but nothing really out of the ordinary to a what we have seen other clubs spend, to a manger and leave him get on with it you have to realise the results are down to good management.

This is oneills team, only gabby was here before him, and he was just breaking through as a teenager.

Ok if you want to inadvertinaly dismiss my argument by bringing up all our bad results against lower teams so be it. The fact is to date we have only been beaten 3 times in the league this season, we are up to third, we have beaten every top 4 club we have played so far, we remain unbeaten against all our nearest rivals. And yes there will be ups and downs in a season, like there will be for every team every season.

If you cant see the team and manager is going from strenghth to strenghth you must be blind and one of those poeple who just love to whinge for the sake of it only women do that and if you aint a women you must be a queer!! if you feel the need to have a moan when its obvious to every1 outside our club and in the media oneill is one of the best managers around in the english game.

Now please id like to hear who you think are recent success's is down to especially if you disagree with my logic??
Comment 62, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.45 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Viva, not that nan needs defending, his occasionally mildly sarcastic comments are nothing compared to the scorn poured on the "sheep" last season where they were called all sorts of idiot for getting a little carried away

Anyway, we are on a role and I for 1 intend to enjoy it and not get drawn in to any (more) arguments
Comment 63, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.46 pm

Carl Main said:

Maindog
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limerick villan...cheers mate! UTV!
Comment 64, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.47 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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While I'm at it, I suggested Milner in the middle first so I'm the genius


I have to admit i just couldn't see it in him. How wrong i was.
Comment 65, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.48 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Greg

I never actually said it was or wasn't down to O'Neill. All I'm saying is you can't base an argument by only looking at half the story. When you take into account the great results, you must do the same with the poor results as well. Beating the top 4 becomes pointless if you lose to the bottom 4, eh?
Comment 66, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.48 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Incidentally after seeing the replay, Milner's pass through to Heskey took quite a big deflection. For that reason, I'm retracting my MotM vote and giving it to Dunne smilies/wink.gif
Comment 67, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.49 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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While I'm at it, I suggested Milner in the middle first so I'm the genius!


Did you bollocks smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 68, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.51 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
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A 3-0 win against the Clayheads on Saturday will do nicely.
Comment 69, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.51 pm

Chris Platt said:

clevelandvillian
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Great result, really important we won tonight. Haven't seen Milners goal but will when they play SSN at 7.00PM here. Agree with viva about waiting until the end of the year after we've played Arsbandits and Liverscum.

Don't forget we get screwed. Liverpool play on Boxing day, we play Arsenal the day after(on sunday) then have to play Liverpool on 1 days rest.
The boys will be tired

We may NEED the squad for over the festive period
Comment 70, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.53 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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How did everyone else think Ashley played tonight?
Comment 71, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.53 pm

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
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damian you and i both know martin o neill doesnt buy a player for a position, he buys players he wants and feels fit into his team plan. he was not a 12m right winger. he was a 12m footballer, and he had already a history of playing right, left centre and up front.

surely you agree he has been one of the most consistent performers in the team since he arrived. i find it strange that you think davies was worth almost 10m but dont think milner 12m.
i think you have been very unfair to him and really think you should, not apologies as you have no reason for that, but retract what you were so often saying

surely you dont think that when you and i and many others were calling for him in the middle due to the aspect of his game, or even the shortcomings (crossing etc) that we could all see it and martin o neill couldnt?

come off it...
Comment 72, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.54 pm

Stuart Kinane said:

mattyhislop
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Ronrabbit - I think it's a good shout that Milner is the best Villa player in a long time. Id even rate him as being more important than Merson - I think the guy is going to be the heart beat of the team for a long time to come.

AK27 - good shout on Reid although who would you drop to fit him in? The Milner/Petrov combo looks too good to break up at the mo. (On a side note, you have to wonder what Trap was thinking not playing him for Ireland in the qualifiers).

As fot the Irish players of that era, I count five - McGrath, Staunton, Houghton, Townsend and the one some forget - GARETH FARRELLY!

Definitely the best time to support a Villa team since Brian Little got us to 4th and we beat Leeds to win the Coca-Cola Cup. The amazing thing is, I think MON is setting his sights a lot higher than that. Even though he comes across as if he's firmly rooted to the ground, id say he's floating on air after those two wins.

UTV!
Comment 73, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.55 pm

Stan Balaban said:

0
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Great win for the boys today but I don't think we should get too carried away just yet. Sunderland had more than enough to give us a scare but unlike in so many previous seasons I genuinely feel that our defence can handle whatever's thrown at it.
Looking ahead, I think we still need a couple of players - 1 attacker like Robbie Keane to link the frontline to the midfield. I also think we should look at Bentley too. If Ash, DJ or Milner get suspensions / injured then we're back to having NRC or Sidwell in the middle and we revert back to the long ball.

IN : R Keane, Bentley and Benni McCarthy (cheap and good alternative to the big man up front)

OUT : Osbourne, Harewood, Salifou, possibly Gardner

LOAN : Fonz, Delph to build up playing time and experience

UTV
Comment 74, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.56 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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ak

Poorly to be honest. As odd as it sounds, I think Ash is actually the weakest link in the team at the moment. Everyone else seems to contribute so much. Apart from Heskey. It's hard to imagine that O'Neill once labelled him the best crosser of the ball in the league. His completion ratio must be something like 10% these days.

I think he just needs to simplify his game a little bit.
Comment 75, made on December 15, 2009 at 9.57 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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I really don't see the point in going for Bentley. He'd cost, what, ~10m? Ish? I stand by what I said during pre-season - I'd rather have Albrighton.
Comment 76, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.00 pm

Greg said:

Greg Davillain1887
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viva villain

im sorry but i was giving you the full story, we have lost 3 games all season and are third, its oneills 3rd year. yes we have lost to so called inferior opposition 3 times, but out of 17 league games i would take the same over the next 17 games, we are also in a carling cup semi final, and after 3 years at the club we are starting to really see oneills effect on the club, so please dont patronise me about only seeing half of the story because i see without blinkers kid so maybe its time you take yours off too and in fact its you who are seeing half the picture.

We have only lost 3 games you numbskull!! thats less than man united, now get over yourself!!!!
Comment 77, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.02 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Celtic_Villan

due respect, but what you have written is easy to write now, after the event. yes, i can say now that o´neill buys certain players that are more workers than say specific to a position but i couldn´t have said that about milner when o´neill signed him

but he isn´t always going to buy like that. he can´t buy a top class striker and then put him on the right wing, much like he cant buy a top class attacking central midfielder and put him wide, much like he isn´t going to put petrov on the left or right or cueller in midfield of midfield

i also, as of right now, stand by what i have said from day one; i think £12mn was a lot for james milner as a right sided midfielder/winger

is he worth £12mn in the middle of midfield, maybe, but he still has a lot to do, mostly because i don´t take a few matches as a banchmark - i want to see more
Comment 78, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.03 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
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viva,

Heskey has been outstanding, that's why MON and Capello pick him. Coincidentally, we're third in the league.
Comment 79, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.04 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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viva, I've suggested every possible combination of outfield formation including Zat Knight upfront so I had to get 1 right!

Watching the highlight now and we are not defending as well as at Man U, closing down nowhere near as good, which in my opinion was our problem against Spurs although no one agrees with me. Perhaps too much to ask to repeat that intensity

We should have had a penalty when Young crossed to Gabi who was tripped by Turner, very clear. Downing looks good, what a passer.I wasn't sure how he'd fit in but looks really good, what a passer and shot to hit the bar excellent

JORDAN Henderson looks good for Sunderland
Comment 80, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.04 pm

Nick said:

nick_not_nicky
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I dont know if Ashley is playing poorly. He got himself in a great position tonight and then hit the post. He is working very hard, always tracking back and always full of running.

I think he is seeing less of the ball because we have plenty of other options then just "get the ball to ashley" which is what I use to scream 1 or 2 seasons ago.

But I dont think he is playing bad per say, just not at his best. But he's still contributing and working hard for the team.
Comment 81, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.04 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
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think bentley`s attitude could be a danger to the team if he`s not in the team if you know what i meansmilies/wink.gif
Comment 82, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.04 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Greg

You make me laugh mate. I have no idea why you've come over all aggressive because my original comment wasn't critical or even negative of anything you wrote. It was just a point. Why you think I'm getting at you I don't know.
Comment 83, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.06 pm

Chris Platt said:

clevelandvillian
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If Bentley gets an attitude then no-one picks him up for training he'd have to stay at homesmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 84, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.06 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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good shout on Reid although who would you drop to fit him in


Ashley in a flash. He was really poor again in my opinion tonight. Took the wrong option so many times and some of his deliveries were beyond terrible tonight.We would have hammered them tonight if he was so off form on the ball and not for the first time. Check out when he had the easest of crosses to put Gabby in for a second in the first half. He over hit it by 20 yards. It was actually shocking for a player with such a high reputation. Right now he is the weakest link in our midfield.

Reid is a far better player in my opinion. He is far too good for Sunderland.
Comment 85, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.08 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Mostyn

Not sure about oustanding, but he's had his moments. I appreciate what he brings to the team, but I wouldn't think twice about replacing him with a goalscorer.
Comment 86, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.09 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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mattyhislop i knew their were 4 but it suited my point to say 3 and i hoped nobody would call me on it. smilies/cheesy.gif

Forgot about Farrelly.
Comment 87, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.10 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
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To accuse me of being unduly-sarcastic or critical of 'so called supporters' is truly ridiculas. I value the opinions of most fans on here (positive and negative), BUT HANG ON A BLOODY MINUTE.

Am I really supposed to avoid having a little dig at those who are calling for the sacking of a manager of a team 3rd in Prem, a team who have beaten Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea this season?

My good natured jibes are balanced against the screaming vitriol that is poured on MON and his players when we get a poor result.

So, sarcastic - yes. Piss taking - yes. Some people deserve it and this blog needs it.
Comment 88, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.13 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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That build up to the Young shot really was good wasn't it? Even Heskey put through the cheeky little chip!
Comment 89, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.14 pm

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
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fair enough if you think that he has to do more, but i would still question how much you doubted 12 and accepted figures not too substantially less.

on the point about a class striker playing wide, of course he could. sir alex did it with rooney and tevez, if not with an out and out centre forward. but milner was never that- we all knew he wasnt set down to one position

i think a lot of milner, and i just feel that you have been awful harsh on a young english player with an excellent attitude. he really is the sort of player that should be bigged up.

for the record, i have always been a big milner fan and have consistently said to lay off him. i wont ask that you check the archives for such facts, as i respect you have not asked me to do such a trivial task, that would just be a waste of both our time.

that said i do love the blog man, just dont like what i see as stubbornness on your part. but i accept that you want to see more of him.
il hold my hands up too if collins turns out to be a masterstroke. i saw it as a spointless signing at the time, and wanted to see a lot more of him before i dubbed him the next mcgrath as some did after 2 or 3 great games
Comment 90, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.15 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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AK, Reids a good playerm for the last year at least while he's been off the pies. I know your proud of your homeland but drop Ash for Reid, no way

We still haven't conceded a headed goal this season, what does that say about our central defenders. Old school and hard as f4ck
Comment 91, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.16 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Just seen the Milner goal, class, I questioned his goalscoring a couple of weeks ago and he's not stopped scoring since - so

Milner, Petrov and Ash will not get a goal between them for the rest of the season
Comment 92, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.20 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Dunne put in a couple of stunning challenges tonight. That one to prevent an easy tap in from Jones was absolutely top class. To come from behind and get the ball before the striker takes some effort, not least of all because if you screw it up you're likely to give a penalty away and earn a red card for your troubles.
Comment 93, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.20 pm

keith said:

keithj
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the last time we had a team that worked so hard for each other was about 1980 i believe, no superstars just a bunch of talented grafters.
top 4 is ours
keep the faith
Comment 94, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.21 pm

Stuart Kinane said:

mattyhislop
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AK_27, I have to disagree on Ashley although I see where you are coming from. I think he has started to come back to life in the last few games. His cross in the Man Utd game was sensational. Look at the pace and the swerve on it at the last min before Agbonlahor got his head to it. It was a striker's dream ball. Another part of his game that is particularly pleasing to see this season is his willingness to track back - there were many incidents on saturday where Ash was the one in our box making crucial clearances.

Having said all that, I do think Reid would be a very good signing for us, but I wouldn't like to see Ash dropped to accomodate him.


I think the priority over the next two windows though (could be hard to get in january) is a centre forawrd to play alongside Gabby. It is a real shame what happened Dean Ashton, I think he could have been perfect for Villa.
Comment 95, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.27 pm

proxopera said:

0
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Lads , we have the midfield formation right . You're starting to worry me with all this Bentley talk. I would'nt let him make the tea at Villa park, he'd be that t**t Ginola all over again.
As for Reid , he's a good player but we have good players already in that position ,who's place would he take .
Comment 96, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.27 pm

Greg said:

Greg Davillain1887
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viva villain,

sorry im not trying to be agressive, no i saw it as a dig at oneill, you say if my logic that he is responsible for the wins v the top teams then by default it is his responsability for the defeats against the lowly teams.

My original point was: I was making a point to Damian the maker and manager of this blog to which i am very gratelfull for the debate he creates. My point was he who runs this blog i can find very irritating at times. There is often this negative undercurrent against the manager.(and ive seen it plenty of time where he doesnt give credit where credit is due) I find this emanates a lack of confidence in our manager around the blog or at least he tries to. In his response
but the football is looking better and it isn´t as long. i hope to god it isn´t a fluke and i pray also that this is down to o´neill and not just the opposition
I had made the point to him that all the evidence shown that this miraculous transformation must be mostly down to our manager.

Afterall the administrator gives himself a special colour for his responses, so they naturally stand out more, and as the leader of the blog i hate that he should be showing lack of confidence in our manager(maybe it could be down to him or maybe its down to the man on the moon or oleary). I dont think its right so i was putting a point to him (which he never responded). And you undermined my point and all i wanted to know was what your logic was behind it. Id still like to hear it, but theres no hard feelings from me to anyone and im sorry if i come across that way smilies/tongue.gif now do u get me?!!
Comment 97, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.29 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Viva, your right, Dunne was class tonight, Kenwynne won nohing in the air against him either and he is dangerous with his head

While the new signings have been really important (especially defenders) I think it was Freelancealot who said on here that it was more important how much the existing players improved and I mst admit Milner, Gabbi and inparticular Cuellar have improved dramaically. Also Big Brad and even Emille have been much betetr than last season though presumably not because they are maturing. Add this to the youth players who showed in preseason they are coming along nicely and I'm in danger of not following Damian's advice and getting carried away

We will see
Comment 98, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.30 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Sid if watched the full game tonight Reid was looked top class. He was the only reason they made any game of it and they did create chances(might not show up in highlights but he caused us a lot of trouble all night). I don't really pick players because of where they are from but i was the guy on here saying Dunne was the man for us last May (and took a lot of stick for it by the way) because i have seen what he can do for the ROI on many occassions. The only other Irish player i would say hand on heart would be a sucess at Villa is Andy Reid. He is so underated. Keane i would hope would be a success but wouldn't be certain but Reid would give us that guile we currently lack. He is a far more complete player then Young(he lacks his pace but is better in evry other aspect on the ball). I know that won't go down well on here but i honestly do believe that. Young needs to start producing.
Comment 99, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.31 pm

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Young had been pretty poor up until probably around the West Ham game where he was ok. He played well against Bolton (but so did everybody else) and was decent against Hull and United. But on the whole he is not producing.

Why not stick Downing on the left wing and give Albrighton a game or two on the right? I'm positive Young would come back from a rest for the better.
Comment 100, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.36 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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I haven't been on here for a while, the fickleness annoyed me. Well we are going places...Milner is class, I was ridiculed for saying he would be in England's world cup squad when a lot of you thought Albrighton should be playing! Damian remember how much you slated his signing? MON knows what he is doing, relax and enjoy the ride. UTV
Comment 101, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.38 pm

scottyavfc said:

0
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Can I suggest a link dedicated to the legend that is Big Emile?
http://www.facebook.com/group....59&ref=nf

And, I may also add, that Milner could be that creative midfielder we all craved at the start of the season? The assist for Heskey,and the way he took his goal (not mentioning his overall form since his CM role) seem so suggest so!

Hoping for a 0-0 and plenty of injuries in the Spurs vs City match tomorrow!
Comment 102, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.39 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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Forgot to mention, ak I owe you an apology, Dunne has won me over, he is excellent. I'm so glad you were right!!!
Comment 103, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.39 pm

proxopera said:

0
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I agree with vivavilla, give Albrighton a chance , but not until after the Liverpool game .
Comment 104, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.40 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Ak,I like Reid, I just like Ash as well and I thnk he has been playing better last 5 games or so

I remember you saying how good Dunne was and Keef giving you dogs abuse for it, perhaps that's why he's disappeared, waiting for a Dunne mistake so he can come back?

I think Keane is a good player but get the feeling he would not be a succes at Villa, I think he is just on the turn as most forwards do as they pass 30 (which I think is coming up for Keane), a few exceptions, mainly Italian.

I'm not sure who we should sign upfront, just that they should be clever, be able to pass, hold up the ball, bring others in to play and score goals. David Villa would be nice.........oh well
Comment 105, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.42 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Keef, your back, I retract my last post, missed you mate, where you been
Comment 106, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.44 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
...
We're not fickle, we just don't like yousmilies/wink.gif
Comment 107, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.45 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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Sid - you make me feel like O'Leary !!! smilies/wink.gif
Comment 108, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.47 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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No problem Keef. He is a born leader with the heart of a lion and the closest reincarnation of God himself to come out of this land.


I have to say as someone who didn't rate Milner when we signed him that he really has won me over. Such a great attitude. What a goal tonight and was also very creative.

Comment 109, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.47 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
I think a group hug followed by cum by ya is neededsmilies/grin.gif
Welcome back keef.
Comment 110, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.48 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
...
Sid

If you need proof of fickleness read nan's last post, that man talks sense. smilies/wink.gif
Comment 111, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.50 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Yep, Nan's a legend
Comment 112, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.52 pm

david said:

r0bb0
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Damian, I'm with you on not getting over excited yet. We will go through a bad patch at some point and we just have to hope that it's a much shorter one than last season.
I do however agree with those who say it's a bit rich of you to claim credit for seeing Milner's strengths ahead of O'Neill. I'm not saying you should wear a hair shirt and apologise for your earlier criticism of Milner, but it was relentless and in my opinion unfair. You must remember how stridently you used to point out how you believed that we had paid far too much for him. It would be interesting to see what he's worth now, but it must be substantially more than £12m
Comment 113, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.54 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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cum by ya my lord cum by ya, oh lord cum by ya.

Ok limerick?
Comment 114, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.54 pm

JohnnyH said:

0
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...

I think Ashley Young is working incredibly hard for the team. This shows a great attitude when he is not producing the goods in the final third. Once his form returns to being similar to last season then we are talking about another good number of goals and assists from him.

Its hard to believe now that Zat Knight and Curtis Davies were defending our goal for many games last season..wow! Also the devastation of Martin Laursen retiring has quickly been vanquished. Well done MON!
Comment 115, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.55 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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As Ive been away for a bit, is Chris still a big nancy boy?

Is that PC?
Comment 116, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.55 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
...
Keef your a star matesmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 117, made on December 15, 2009 at 10.56 pm

tubbydunne said:

0
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Only saw the highlights so could be talking sh*te, but I thought that Luke Young was poor tonight and Reid caused all sorts of problems, he was at the heart of all their dangerous moments.
Have to admit have never been a big Luke Young fan and I think he has left the door open now for MON to push Carlos to right back and Collins back in the first eleven at his expense.
Great win again and long may it continue, Milner in the middle has been a master stroke.
Comment 118, made on December 15, 2009 at 11.04 pm

keith said:

keithj
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to be fair to damian milners price was upped i think from 8 million but when you consider the cost of other transfers at the time milner has become an absoloute steal.
ash has not become a bad player he is a marked player but that allows others space to shine, given time he will find a way to become more affective again
Comment 119, made on December 15, 2009 at 11.10 pm

david mc gorrian said:

limerick villain
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whos chris?
Comment 120, made on December 15, 2009 at 11.11 pm

invinciblevilla said:

0
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I'm saying nothing because I know jacksh*t. MON out!!
Comment 121, made on December 15, 2009 at 11.35 pm

arewegoin2dunneit said:

0
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there was a song going out tonight in my local that went "Richard dunne my lord Richard dunne" i know it's early days but what confidenece that guy gives the whole team! bring them all on
Comment 122, made on December 15, 2009 at 11.40 pm

kieran said:

MartinOneillatemyhamster
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Who's Laursen? smilies/wink.gif God was right and Mark Hughes is a muppet...Dunne is a ledgend in the making
Comment 123, made on December 16, 2009 at 12.56 am

Daniel Turko said:

LockStock Villa
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i was at the match tonight and the passing is absolutely spectacualr compared to weeks ago, its amazing what putting milner into midfield has done....watching, i noticed sunderland plays alot like our oldselves...all they did was hit the ball long for jones and bent
Comment 124, made on December 16, 2009 at 1.15 am

jerry said:

churchill
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keef, wa's hapnin, buddy.
Comment 125, made on December 16, 2009 at 1.18 am

Dave said:

Dubai Dave
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Steve Bruce after the game:
If there’s one team going to break into the top four, they’ll be it,” Bruce said. “They’re big, strong, powerful and they’ve got unbelievable strength in depth. They’re the club you’d like to emulate.


nuf said.
Comment 126, made on December 16, 2009 at 5.02 am

Daniel Wilson said:

DanWilson82
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Steve Bruce after the game:

If there’s one team going to break into the top four, they’ll be it,” Bruce said. “They’re big, strong, powerful and they’ve got unbelievable strength in depth. They’re the club you’d like to emulate.


nuf said.


But your forgetting... Rafa has guaranteed Liverpool 4th spot, so we don't have any chance...

Some of the Liverpool forums make for great reading at the moment, they seem to think he's gone mad...
Comment 127, made on December 16, 2009 at 5.06 am

skeester73 said:

0
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How is it that after we beat Manure there was very little coverage on Sky Sports but then when they beat Wolves they get a big time slot again? It grips my s*** the way Sky refuses to really notice any team outside the so called big four! I'd love it, love it we beat them!!!! UTV SOTC!
Comment 128, made on December 16, 2009 at 5.41 am

James said:

Nanwasafan
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United away, Sunderland away, 8 days 'til Christmas and Keef and Churchill are back. Small sherry anyone?

Young's pressing resulted in the Heskey goal didn't it?
Comment 129, made on December 16, 2009 at 6.42 am

Dave said:

Dubai Dave
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For Rafa to come out and say this is a so stupid, talk about piling on undue pressure on your players and setting yourself up for a fall

what a plonker
Comment 130, made on December 16, 2009 at 6.43 am

Panos said:

Panos
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It's not only Bruce that likes our chances.
Ancelotti does too.

"Aston Villa are a very dangerous team," said Ancelotti. "They won against Chelsea and Manchester United. I think Martin O'Neill is doing a fantastic job with this team.

"Maybe we have to pay attention to them because nobody spoke about Aston Villa in the top four but now we have to pay attention to this team. I think Arsenal have to pay attention to them."


http://www.sportinglife.com/fo...MHD=soccer
Comment 131, made on December 16, 2009 at 6.46 am

Dave said:

Dubai Dave
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Does anyone know where I can get a couple of tickets to the Liverpool game? - i'm coming back to the uk and i would love to see this one live....
Comment 132, made on December 16, 2009 at 6.50 am

George Templeton said:

George Templeton
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The point about the passing and Milner's effect on the game as a central midfielder was excellent. More important is what's happened to the goals Villa has scored since Downing came into the squad.
Four matches with Downing playing from the start have yielded 10 goals and I would bet at least half if not 7 of out 10 goals were from open. And that's from a team that was over reliant on goal from free kicks and corners.

I have to admit I though Villa would only draw tonight. I thought they had exoended too much to beat United. But, as other posters have said, what a confidnet performance the boys put in tonight.

Now lets beat our bogey team, Stoke, this weekend!
Comment 133, made on December 16, 2009 at 6.52 am

davidc said:

0
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These are the good times boys. On a roll. Have beaten the only two teams above us already. Have won at the Sty. In the semis of a cup.

Certain people can gripe about the "quality" of the passing. But look at the cold hard facts. If you can't enjoy it now, then you should find a pastime you really do like.
Comment 134, made on December 16, 2009 at 7.16 am

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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They all love us now

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/matt_dickinson/article6956765.ece

L'Arse are no respectors of reputation, but I would imagine even they are bricking it.

It would only take a couple of poor results for things to look very different, but I did forecast a roller coaster ride this season smilies/cool.gif

The implosion of last season after the ML injury looks a whole lot less likely with this squad.

Yet more depth, Parker anyone?, and a greater maturity will stand us in good stead till season end.
Comment 135, made on December 16, 2009 at 7.30 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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Champions League anyone ?? smilies/wink.gif

Guess the EMULE hat trick was a little much to ask but we won and thats all that matters, big atmosphere Saturday keep us warm and welcome our travelling LIONS back
Comment 136, made on December 16, 2009 at 7.33 am

deero83 said:

0
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Just to be pedantic @Damian, do you realise it's "Cuellar" not Cueller as you keep spelling it?

Great win last night...!
Comment 137, made on December 16, 2009 at 7.47 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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http://www.vidtory.com/

highlights for anyone that wants them, Milners goal smilies/wink.gif pick that one out FULOP smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 138, made on December 16, 2009 at 7.52 am

neil57 said:

0
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Typical me. Posted on old blog last nightsmilies/smiley.gif
So much ........
Nan, I like you, what tosh was uttered against you.
Keef, glad you are still alive, don't leave again.
Where is Chris?
You numpties who denegrate Ashley, it was said the cross against Man Utd was unplayable, he is class. The team is playing marvellous football, 2nd in stats only to Brum in last 6 games.
I was beaten to it when someone said that Gabby is only non MON signing in team. He has made great signings, a few poor ones, I admit, but they were cheap in comparison.
Heskey is a confidence player, my mates think he was a snip, he is coming good.
If the team is playing well, the team spirit makes them raise their game.
I am so looking forward to the next 2 weekssmilies/smiley.gif
Viva, look on the bright side. I have always liked Milner. I have 2 friends who are Leeds men, they say he is best they had in years,the Magpies demise was our gain. They also say Delph is class.
In MON we trust COYL
Comment 139, made on December 16, 2009 at 7.57 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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I think a group hug followed by cum by ya is needed
Welcome back keef.


just spat my red bull everywhere VILLA WINNING MAKES THE VILLA BLOG boys get all emotional smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 140, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.03 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Chiefy when Heskey scored i was certain you were going to win your bet.
Comment 141, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.10 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Nice to see other managers praising us, though this seems almost identical to the same sort of thing that happened this time last year when we were riding high. I specifically remember Andy Gray saying "I don't think it's a big 4 anymore, I think it's a big 5".

People have a habit of jumping the gun on things like this.
Comment 142, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.13 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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AK_27 - I thought he was going to get another few, but i dont mind i will carry the bet over to Saturday and see if the big bag of wind can net a couple more, but think Carew will start Heskey will need to rest for a few weeks now playing to games so close to each other smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 143, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.14 am

James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini said:

0
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Fantastic 6 point from a very tricky 2 away games!! A win on Saturday will out us in a great position going into the Arsenal and Liverpool games!!

Dunne is mint and is the buy of the season...love that bloke and dare I say it, is a better all round defender than Laursen.
Comment 144, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.16 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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James Collins - Cuellar is the unsung HERO he is immense
Comment 145, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.26 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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is a better all round defender than Laursen.


I agree with this as well. He might not be as dangerous at the other end but his ability to get in vital tackles/ blocks is amazing.

Chiefy id be shocked if Heskey didn't start on Saturday. He is full of confidence now as was shown in the way he finished his chnace last night. A really top finish.
Comment 146, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.27 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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AK_27 - I do think HESKEY will be loving it at the minute although I think the last 2 games would have taken it out of everyone a bit Man Utd took massive effort and you could see some tired legs last night, maybe Oneil might change it round a little its not like we havent got the squad for it ( how good does it feel to know we can do this ) smilies/wink.gif
Comment 147, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.30 am

James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini said:

0
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Agree Chiefy, Cuellar has also been immense but his distribution lets him down at times, therefore Dunne nicks it for me. Pure quality!
Comment 148, made on December 16, 2009 at 8.40 am

marcus taylor said:

MJT
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lol just seen the highlights, and im loving the way the linesman come running on the pitch and caught the through ball to gabby at the end.

great performance by the sound of it, i only herd the radio and u cant quite get the jist on how were playing. but highlights look good. looking forward to the stoke game and would love at least 4 points from the arse nd pool games!!

to those that are talking about who's better, laursen or dunne. imagine if they both played. would be 1 hell of a centre partnership

C'MON VILLA
Comment 149, made on December 16, 2009 at 9.16 am

jerry said:

churchill
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Chiefy...
http://www.vidtory.com/


Thanks chiefy
Comment 150, made on December 16, 2009 at 10.07 am

John Clark said:

kohoutek
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A very solid performance on the heels of the Utd. win, and very impressive for that reason alone. Got to see the game last night, and was very pleased overall.

Cracker of a goal from Milner, a lovely assist. Sometimes it's darkest before the dawn, and while I don't want to get too excited just yet, it does seem that MON's supposed madness is starting to show its method.

As the Steve Bruce quote attests, we're strong, powerful, big and fast. We're also combative, have a touch of a mean streak, and are only now starting to come together.

Downing has obviously shown himself to be worth the gamble, even though he's probably only contributing 6-70% of what he will once he's fully fit and been playing with rest of the team for a while.

Heskey is taking his chance, the lads seem full of confidence and resolve. On what had to be very tired legs, we did a job last night. Very pleased with what I'm seeing.
Comment 151, made on December 16, 2009 at 1.52 pm

John Clark said:

kohoutek
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Sorry, should have been "60-70%" for Downing.

This is what I was envisioning. I could see the athleticism, the pace, the youth, the character-filled core. Now that we're starting to pass the ball around, Villa become a very difficult proposition. If we can build and create quality chances AND counterattack with breathtaking speed, we'll have the portfolio to compete with virtually anyone.

Suddenly, the prospect of CL football doesn't seem as intimidating as it once did. Another year, perhaps one lethal player up front to play with Gabby, and I can see the possibility of us giving a good account of ourselves in the group stages.
Comment 152, made on December 16, 2009 at 1.57 pm

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