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Sixteen year old players, issues with a certain federation and something for Ciaran Clark

Nothing happened yesterday as I was busy and actually, nothing did really happen apart form Richard Dunne talking about United on Saturday and a couple of bits about some younger players.

First bit was that we were offering a trial to 16 year old Pior Parzyszek and well, this got me really excited as well, he's 16 years old and he must be pretty good. I know, does it really matter?

The thing is, the other bit of news was also about another 16 year old, this time British passport holding, Australian born Reece Caira who has been banned from playing football for over a year, because we wanted to bring him to the club and FIFA said no.

Now, my history is poor, but wasn't it the English that invented the game? Why the hell do we have these people in Switzerland, getting fat on our heritage, telling us what to do? This isn't just about this player, this is much bigger and I'm not suggesting for a minute that we can do better, but why don't we try?

What exactly do FIFA bring to the table that if England were to stand up and walk away from, we couldn't get back? Do you think if we left and invited other countries to join our federation that some wouldn't join? Why the hell do FIFA think they can say no to a transfer. They don't act on the really important things for years, almost until it is too late, then they try and stop a 16 year old British passport holder from furthering his career. It doesn't make sense.

Okay, I'm getting carried away and this is a nothing thing really because he'll probably arrive fairly soon and FIFA can not ban a 16 year from playing, but it's just that FIFA get right on my tits.

Anyway, Manchester United tomorrow, who do you think is going to give the rallying call and what formation will we play? Also, quick question to the right and before I go, this is for Ciaran Clark - apparently he's a big fan. Good man.

So, with Martin O'Neill warning of a tough game and the sun rising this morning, all is set for something tomorrow. We'll be doing a special live blog tomorrow. Not sure how it will be special, but I'm going to be extra careful to make sure you get all the news and banter from about ten in the morning. For now, I'm off for coffee and I'm thinking Marmite on toast.

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rocky marciano said:

rocky5
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couldn`t you have photoshopped the knickers off first damian smilies/wink.gif 1-1 tomorrow
Comment 1, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.01 am

James said:

anotherjames
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I realise this is probably mostly a case of attacking something just because it's in our interest as Villa fans, but really, suggesting English football is above FIFA is ridiculous.

Do you want to go back to the days when we thought we were better than the rest of the world, and only when we joined the world cup did we discover even the USA could beat us? There has to be a world governing body, and though I disagree with a lot they do, this is actually one thing I wholeheartedly agree with.

Players under 16 should stay at the professional club they were trained up in, or at least in the same country. How would you like it if Man Utd pinched some of our academy youngsters? Look at the Swiss keeper that won an international youth tournament recently - he'll be getting attention from across Europe. We do this badly enough across Europe as it is, bringing in Swiss and Austrian youth players particularly. If we think English youngsters have it hard getting in the first team as it is because of all the foreigners, recruiting players from abroad (even if they do have British passports) into the academy is crazy. It might get us the best players, yes, but it will ruin smaller clubs in smaller countries' leagues.
Comment 2, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.05 am

Damian said:

Damian
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anotherjames

you are right. there has to be a world governing body, but who governs them?

i'm also not saying english football is above FIFA - i'm asking question; if we walked, who would follow and i'm not suggesting we go back to anything

i'm also not attacking it really, i just think that fifa have, for a number of years, lost focus - it is now about the money, not about the football
Comment 3, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.09 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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ive read this morning that the ipswich youngster whitlow is ready to sign a five year contract, putting an end to our interest mind you what chance did we have when chelsea and utd are very interested in him?.
i was 41 on monday so is it really wrong for me to letch over megan fox..smilies/grin.gif
Comment 4, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.17 am

Damian said:

Damian
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holteend paul
i know how you feel. but maybe, instead of calling it letching. call it admiring
Comment 5, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.28 am

Majkee said:

0
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anotherjames, I do not agree with you. His parents decided to live in UK, to move from Australia to UK, they have UK passport, nobody should stop them doing it and the same should be applicable for their child.

I live in Slovakia and considering players like Stoch, Hamšík or Weiss, the best option for them was to move in young age to better football countries with better (may be one of the best over the world) football infrastructure - e.g. football academies, training centres, stadiums. Here in Slovakia, they would never grown as they grown in England (Stoch, Weiss) or Italy (Hamšík). That is the proved truth.

The best solution for Aussie federation is that they should stimulate their players to go abroad if they want to but only with confirmation that these players will be representing Australia in the future.

The negative might be for England, that their talents in academies might be suppressed, but this could be turned into a positive - only the best will survive - that means better English players from academies pass through to Premier League seniors.
Comment 6, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.31 am

VillaJigz said:

0
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Dam,

I see your point in the way FIFA has no idea what they are doing but to be fair, our own FA does a bad enough job looking after the English teams let alone teams for any other countries teams. I think we should get our house in order before start throwing stones.
Comment 7, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.46 am

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
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I must be missing something here.

How can an organisation ban a kid playing Football for the club of HIS choice?

Is this not a retraint on his career? If so, then its highly illegal?

Also, weve signed 16 year old kids from europe, with one another due for trials soon, so whats the difference?

On the other hand, for FIFA to intervene, there must have been a complaint from the Australian FA as to our behaviour?

Which means we are beginnig to act like a greedy big club again, which makes feel really happysmilies/cool.gif

Reports are that this kid is very special with a host of massive clubs after him. The fact he chose us above them is a great to hear. But it sounds like the Aussies dont want their best young talent going abroad?

I can see an appeal going in, and the Aussies backing down, since its the kids future we are really discussing.
Comment 8, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.02 am

Jae said:

0
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FIFA havn't done anything wrong, they just havn'tt done anything right, the Aussie FA made a complaint and FIFA imposed standard ruling until it is decided either way. Eventually we will win as the sanction is illegal, it is like deporting an ex-pats son. W ewill also learn a lot about hm vewr the nexx few weeks becase how much the club fight for him will ssow us how much hey value him.
Comment 9, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.07 am

doc3d said:

0
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The simple point is, how can FIFA stop a kid with a british passport from playin for a british club? If he only held an australian passport i could understand it but if he wanted to get any other sort of job in this country there would be no problem.
Comment 10, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.08 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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If England walked away from FIFA no one would follow and the clubs would not be allowed into the CL and then one year later they would have to eat humble pie and return for the sake of that CL revenue alone. It actually wouldn't even get that far as the big clubs would never allow this to happen in the first place.

Football = Money and that will always win out over morals unfortunately.

But FIFA need to be held far more accountable for their actions especially that c**t Blatter.

How they have got away with changing the rules in the middle of a competition (WC play off seedings) still is just unbelievable to be and he really should be forced out. But how would anyone go about doing this?


The words FIFA Fair play really makes me sick that they can still have the nerve to pronmote such obvious bullshit to the world when they care f**k all for Fair Play but really only care for money.
Comment 11, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.09 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Regarding Caira this is absolutely preposterous. I admit I probably wouldn't have been aware of this if it had been another club involved, but it is still wrong.

If parents want to move their son to a placve that would give him a leg up in his chosen career, i.e a country with a particularly good school and that country was also the fathers nationality and the son was a legal citizen, then what right does anyone have to say no?

FIFA have been criticized for not acting strongly enough in the Kakauta scandal and this is their half arsed token gesture of a response, which is completely stupid.

In this case the lad was not under contract, had no contractual obligations to the Australian FA or his club and he has already been a national here for a year.

FIFA need to get their f**king priorities straight and address proper issues in the game like goal line technology, racism and corruption.

We are bearing the brunt of Chelsea's 'bull in a china shop' approach to poaching youngsters, when we are widely regarded as a club that performs these transfers and transactions in a more honest, transparent and sporting fashion.

Banning the kid for a year is surely not in his interest and I thought this was about the players, not the fact that FIFA should be seen to be doing something about what is a much woder issue.

It's backward and stupid and has riled me. The kid could be rubbish for all I care, it's the principle that counts.

Screw you blatter you fat wind bag, you look like Baron Greenback from Danger Mouse.
Comment 12, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.13 am

Damian said:

Damian
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ak_27

are you sure?

i think if england walked, you might find one or two other big countries are also just as frustrated with fifa and add to that, if england agreed to say for example, setting up a bi annual tournament with wales, scotland and ireland - they'd probably leave

then, if you were to invite the likes of italy, spain, brazil, germany to join another bi annual tournament - with just as much money - they might join too ..

fifa is great, or i should say the concept is great, but they should have stepped in on some things a while ago and they haven't and mostly because money ruled the decisions

but they cant make rules without coming to the welsh, irish, scottish and english FA's even today - its just that they have more votes than anyone else and rules of the game are for the most part perfect ...

but i'm just throwing it out their .. you could see united and chelsea and arsenal breaking off to play in a european super league and 20 years ago that would have been laughed at ...
Comment 13, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.22 am

Rios.Jockstrap said:

0
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I wonder if this was involving a German Club, whether Splatter would of given his blessing to it?

What is wrong with him when it comes to the English? Did we drop a 500 pounder on his chippie or something?

Tosser.
Comment 14, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.27 am

ryan h said:

0
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just a quick line . . .

feel sorry for dean ashton i always thought he would eventually be a villian but, it is a shame, talented lad, all the best to him!!
Comment 15, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.28 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Damien no other country would walk im afraid. FIFA seem to only have it in for one big country which is England. Spain, Italy Brazil seem to be left alone and i won't even start on France. I just don't see it happening and i especially doubt the FA would ever do it as they would not get the support from the big clubs through their need from CL reveune which is the life force to keeping some of these clubs out of major finacial danger.

But i do agree that FIFA need to be held accountable some way. Who does Blatter answer to? How did he get elected and how often does his his position become available again for re election?

I can't see FIFA being able to ban this kid for a year. Its just another attempt by FIFA thinking they are above the Law. They are not as they have found out in the past and will find out again in the future when they go up againest the EU regarding home grown players. This will be over turned.
Comment 16, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.31 am

Gavin Merriman said:

MerryMan
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You can get 7-1 on villa beating the munich's this weekend.

It was 1995 when we last took 3 points from utd. Looks like they'll have sammy davis junior at right back and kim jung il at left back, not to mention centre mids as centre backs, surely this is best chance we're going to get.

I'm not gonna get my hopes up, that will just lead to hurt. But you can't help thinking the 14 year run might finally come to an end.
Comment 17, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.41 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Every national football association should have a representative or 'ambassador' who permanently sits on a FIFA committee somewhere in eorope who discuss rules and issues much like the european parliament in Brussels.

The whole procees would be presided over by someone equivalent to the 'Speaker' in the house of commons and ideas and rules are suggested and voted on in a democratic manner.

This would provide unbiased decisions that cater for the opinions of all the countries involved rather than the whims of a fat, useless pr**k in position of authority.
Comment 18, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.43 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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the fat spanish waiter is going to get sacked this weekend and klinsman is going to be his replacement klinsman has laid into him this morning in the press. Things must be bad when you have a german slagging you off smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 19, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.47 am

VillaJigz said:

0
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Damo, Your views on England and other countries walking away from FIFA are quite frankly ridiculous! I know there is not much going on in the past couple of days but surely you can come up with something better than this drivel in your blog!!! Please please come up with something more relevant to talk about. Cos to be honest I'm bored at work and would like some interesting VILLA conversation to talk about and this is not it!!!!
Comment 20, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.50 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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United is there for the taking we have to attack them 4-4-2 from the off Carew bullying them, Agbonlahor's pace, Young, Downing and Milner swapping around and doing their thing Man Utd wont know whats going on, show them any respect and stand of them they will hurt us, show them no respect and get into them from the word go high pressure all over the park give them no time on the ball at all ! 2-1 to VILLA, EMULE is going to go from ZERO to HERO with the winner smilies/wink.gif
Comment 21, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.55 am

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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Chiefy said:
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the fat spanish waiter is going to get sacked this weekend and klinsman is going to be his replacement klinsman has laid into him this morning in the press. Things must be bad when you have a german slagging you off


A lot of people think Klinny already has the job - he actually used 'we' talking about Liverpool in his punditry the other night. And he would have been their manager now if he hadn't turned them down for Munich.

Hope it's not true though. The longer have that Fat Spanish Plonker waiting at the tables, the bigger the window of oportunity for us.

And when it's clear that they're not getting in the Champs league next season, their owners wil have to sell some of the big assets to pay the bills.

In fact I think a £80mil combined bid would probably get Torres and Gerrard right now.

Come on Randy - splash the cash !
Comment 22, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.57 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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In fact I think a £80mil combined bid would probably get Torres and Gerrard right now


Thier may be something in that not from us obviously but MAN CITY have apprantley said name your price, and REAL MADRID, CHELSKI are rumoured to be circling for Gerrard.

The owners of Liverpoo will and can sell who ever they want once RAFA is out the way give Klinsman a blank canvass with some money they have got from sales of Torres and SG and start again, but more importantly they will get the creditors of their case because of the sales of 2 of the clubs biggest stars, someone told me the YANKS dont care about the fans at Liverpool and just want to do it their way.

Now i dislike Liverpoo as much as the next man but if true it is sad as imagine your club being taken apart from the inside out ?
Comment 23, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.05 am

SuperBox said:

0
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Someone to monitor FIFA? Who would monitor the monitors? They would also need monitoring! Now my brain hurts....

FIFA, like so many organisations, make decisons by commitee to keep everyone happy, and anyone who has ever been involved in situations like that will tell you, it doesn't work, because no one is happy!

FIFA have taken their eyes off the ball ('scuse the pun). They need to sort out;
1. Consistency of refereeing decisions and interpretation of the laws
2. Diving (A curse on the game)
3. Goal line technology
Comment 24, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.05 am

SuperBox said:

0
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P.S

4. FIFA should also be working on allowing Megan Fox to be an additonal 13th player for Villa (in the kit she is wearing above) then I'd take them seriously as the people interested in my needs as a football fan.
Comment 25, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.10 am

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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Now i dislike Liverpoo as much as the next man but if true it is sad as imagine your club being taken apart from the inside out ?


It is true that they have the Yanks owners from hell, while we have a heavenly dude. But I think the level delusion in the average scouse git is contributing to their downfall. Any other club would have sacked the Fat Tosser ages ago, while he still gets undying loyalty from their fans.

Fools ! This is our time !
Comment 26, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.14 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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This is our time !


I totally agree on that it is our time and tomorrow is going to let the rest of the league, europe and the bloody pundits that VILLA are a force this year and we need to be taken seriously smilies/grin.gif HAV IT !! its a good job i aint old trafford tomorrow i would run on the pitch and do a DELIA smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 27, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.20 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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bloody pundits that
should hav read

bloody pundits that KNOW
Comment 28, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.21 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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wrong again know that is what i meant good damn whats wrong with me
Comment 29, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.22 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Chiefy thats why i never try and add in the words i miss because i would be here all day correcting myself. smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 30, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.27 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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AK_27 - its mad its like your brain works faster than your fingers and tricks you into thinking you have typed it when you havent, then when you read it back you things shit now what so then you try to correct yourself and the whole process starts again, i reckon everyone on here must be use to words missing in peoples posts smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif never realised a blog could be so much hard work smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 31, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.32 am

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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chiefy....
its a bit early to be on the piss aint it?smilies/grin.gif
Comment 32, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.34 am

jk92923 said:

0
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AK.........you going to the game in Murrays on Tuesday??
Comment 33, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.35 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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At least you didn't mistype 442 and put in 444 as my favoured formation instead.

Still don't know how i managed that one.
Comment 34, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.35 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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hahah 4-4-4 love it, i wish holteend give it another hour or 2 at least show some effort to do something at work before i leave for the day smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 35, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.39 am

Michael said:

mickey86
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who decided that switzerland should be the home of international football? they are hardly a good footballing nation! can anyone name 5 swiss footballers? lol

and why is sepp blatter incharge of football, he has never played a game in his life, hes never managed a team in his life - all he has is a degree in business and economics - a degree in business which is the reason football is a business these days and not a game. how come his position never comes under threat? (the bloke before him was a brazillian swimmer! how do they chse these blokes?)

trevor brooking would make a better head of fifa.
Comment 36, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.48 am

Michael said:

mickey86
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the laws that govern the game are maintained by a body called the International Football Association Board (IFAB). this board is based in the UK - why not leave fifa and join this board instead? and the expand it.
Comment 37, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.51 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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before him was a brazillian swimmer! how do they chse these blokes?)
we sure he was aa swimmer ?? apprantley LUCAS is a Brazillian footballer

I would make a better head of football and all i got is a sportsco soccer certifacte x 3 from about 18 years ago. smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/wink.gif
Comment 38, made on December 11, 2009 at 11.53 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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I'd like to shake Sepp Blatter by the ankles so all his organs fall out and then i'd fill him with helium, tie a string round the septum of his nose and pull him around with me like the fat pompous bag of hot air that he is. A blatter Ballon! Fu**ing nob.smilies/angry.gif
Comment 39, made on December 11, 2009 at 12.00 pm

fripps9 said:

0
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Can I just say...I'm really looking forward to being in the Stretford End, rahter than my beloved lower holte seat....NOT!
atleast I'm there!
Cx
Comment 40, made on December 11, 2009 at 12.04 pm

Nick said:

HolteArmyNick
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Got a real feeling of Dunney getting the winner tomorrow, towering header late on smilies/wink.gif

Also, has anyone got any info on how many tickets we've sold for tomorrow?? I've seen the thing on the official site about limited tickets. Just hoping we sell out!!

smilies/wink.gifsmilies/wink.gif
Comment 41, made on December 11, 2009 at 12.27 pm

Nick said:

HolteArmyNick
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The wink buttons playing up methinks ...
Comment 42, made on December 11, 2009 at 12.28 pm

Michael said:

mickey86
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Chiefy - the man in charge before blatter was João Havelange and he was a brazillian swiimer and a water polo playe - however i am using wikipedia for this info so it could be a brazillian footballer named lucas.
Comment 43, made on December 11, 2009 at 5.05 pm

Eoin Doyle said:

Genital Grinder
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Just saw that Dean Ashton has retired.

Not surprising, but very sad all the same. I thought he was a fine striker, and someone that might have played in the better claret and blue at some stage. At 26, it must be heartbreaking.

I wish him well in the future.
Comment 44, made on December 11, 2009 at 5.24 pm

Martin Clabon said:

SidCowanslovechild
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Well said Mr Grinder, I always hoped we'd sign him but I guess lucky escape - my sympathy goes out to him.

We get linked to a lot of crocks, Bellamy says he will probably have to retire in 2 years due to persistent injury and peopl o this site were calling for him and Ashton just a couplke of days ago. We've been pretty lucky with long term injuries recently except Big Bad Billy. Looking back a few years I still believe Luc Nilis would have made a big difference for us if he hadn't got injured so quickly
Comment 45, made on December 11, 2009 at 5.43 pm

frem said:

0
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my uncle is a spurs fan a goes to about 10 games a season. he has a mate who live by white hart lane and he says there is alot of about ROBBIE KEANE coming to villa in january. i hope it happens.
Comment 46, made on December 11, 2009 at 6.50 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Rugby League and Aussie Rules have just put the boot into Australia's bid for WC 2018 by complaining about their stadia being used in the middle of their season. No wonder an Aussie child wants out if he's a decent football prospect.
Comment 47, made on December 11, 2009 at 9.58 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
This blog seems lost in an alternative dimension
It's like an episode of the twilight zone where ten hours of time on this blog is the equivalent of 30 seconds of time in our world.

Roll on tomorrow is all I can say

We will look back on history and say tomorrow "that's when it started"

UTV !!!!!
Comment 48, made on December 11, 2009 at 10.48 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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Got a real feeling of Dunney getting the winner tomorrow, towering header late on



Ive got a feeling ,that today's going to be a good one, that today's going to be a good one whoop whoop. smilies/cheesy.gif

Utd 1 Villa 2 smilies/shocked.gif
Comment 49, made on December 12, 2009 at 1.57 am

Adrian Kilgallon said:

Comment 50, made on December 12, 2009 at 2.04 am

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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Interview with Stephen Warnock here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/12/stephen-warnock-aston-villa

Comment 51, made on December 12, 2009 at 6.37 am

James said:

Nanwasafan
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I know I'm not the only one....

I had to get proper pissed last night just to ease me towards kick off.

It hasn't worked.

I'm up, I'm sober and it's still an eternity until the game.

Beer anyone?
Comment 52, made on December 12, 2009 at 9.01 am

Daniel Wilson said:

DanWilson82
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Morning all,

I've just read that Paul Merson thinks were like a pack of revels, you never know which Villa your going to get next.

Which Villa is going to turn up against Utd today?

Lets hope it's not COFFEE!
Comment 53, made on December 12, 2009 at 9.16 am

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
Headologist said:
...
Interview with Stephen Warnock here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/12/stephen-warnock-aston-villa



What A GuY !

And Benitez - what a T*** with a capital T

Move over red scum, your champion's league place is ours.
Comment 54, made on December 12, 2009 at 9.27 am

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