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Confirmed: Craig Gardner joins The Clowns from the circus

Craig Gardner has gone. He's going to dress like a clown and play his football at the circus. This news is not really news, but it's getting a mention as it is a dark day for the player - he will not develop with them as they are the typical yo-yo club and it won't be long before they are relegated again.

But Gardner wanted first team football and I'm sure he is earning a serious amount of money selling his soul. Hell, for the type of money players earn these days, there is very little I wouldn't do. So he gets his wish, he has simply increased his chances of playing regular football, because frankly, the quality of player they have at the circus has just got better with him joining and his chances of playing are greatly increased.

According to reports, he has signed for £3.5mn with an up front payment of £2mn to be followed by an additional £1mn and £500,000 in add-ons, I'm assuming based on appearances. Will that count if the football is played in Division One?

Anyway, good luck Craig, not that you really care what a blogger writes, but I really do hope it works out for you because well, you're Villa and you know it.

Craig Gardner joins the circus
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Jake Gardner said:

GonzoAvfc
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Blues website says:
"I'm over the moon especially being at the club I supported as a boy," he said.


&
Gardner, who is a Bluenose,


Now i know people who are good friends with the Gardners and went to a party with an ex of mine that was Craig and garys uncles, and im pretty certain that craig is a Villa Fan and that what they have said there is aload of bollocks.
Comment 1, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.31 pm

Michael said:

mickey86
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if he has lied and said that then good luck to him, i hope he breaks his leg on saturday!
Comment 2, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.34 pm

VillaNick said:

0
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Who cares, he's gone to them & he's only a medeocre player anyway!

Comment 3, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.34 pm

Michael said:

mickey86
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and dont go on that website again gonzo!!!!!!!!!! lol
Comment 4, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.36 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Damian,
A little harsh. I think this is Craigs level, and I also think he'll do very well at the Circus. They have an oldxer side and could really do with someone with his kind of determination and versatility.

He has more chance of playing regularly and he doesn't have to move away from friends and family. I think that has more to do with it than the money. McLeish has been after him since the summer and I think he's in good hands with big Eck.

We have a few quid, a player off the wage bill and space in the squad for his little brother who looks like he might have a senior squad number next season.smilies/wink.gif
Comment 5, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.36 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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I feel sick.
Comment 6, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.37 pm

VillaNick said:

0
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"keep right on" that is totally rank!
Comment 7, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.37 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Badger, a little dramatic. But I could do with the picture being taken down.smilies/angry.gif
Comment 8, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.39 pm

Nick Higginson said:

0
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£3.5m for a player who can't get on our subs bench - bargain!
Comment 9, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.40 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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He must be desperate for first team football to go to them. Going from top of the range facilities like bodymoor and a lovely stadium, to a scummy club like that?

Its like Vinnie Jones swapping his $800 cashmere socks with my Matalan ones! smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 10, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.41 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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Badger, a little dramatic.

That's what I meant, the picture (retches again).
Comment 11, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.41 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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yeah - it is down

made me feel a bit rough seeing it. sorry

even the blue looks cheap
Comment 12, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.43 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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That picture honestly made me cringe smilies/cry.gif
Comment 13, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.43 pm

heskeyshead said:

heskeyshead
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Stephen Warnock will be out for at least 2 weeks MON says. Shorey is being recalled on Thursday but won't be able to play against Fulham as he received a red card.

This adds to injuries to Reo-Coker, Carew, Harewood.

We hope that Warnock will be back soon.
Comment 14, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.43 pm

Chrisodon said:

Chrisodon
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His fee could pay huntelarrs loan fee for 6 months.....
Comment 15, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.43 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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Thank the Lord Damian!!
Comment 16, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.44 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Crap slogan,
orrible shirt,
crap facilities,
dodgy chink owners
and an over performing veteran side.

He'll be their hailed as their best player before the end of the season and everyone will say how good a signing he was and how MoN never should have sold him.

The reality being we are much better than him, or them and when he comes back to VP he'll get shown up by the Delphster.smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 17, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.44 pm

Chrisodon said:

Chrisodon
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What ever happened to o'halloran ?.
Comment 18, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.44 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Youngy will have to play LB tonight and at the w/e.

Beye should get a game against Fulham, although I bet he goes with Cuellar against Arse.

It'll actually be quite nice to have Shorey back. I really would like to keep him as backup if MOn thinks he can get on with him.

He has a few good qualities but he's always gonna play second fiddle to Warnock.
Comment 19, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.47 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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What ever happened to o'halloran ?.

Didn't he get a nasty injury and never quite get back to form. Has he been sold?
Comment 20, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.48 pm

Big Jim 666 said:

0
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Please get rid of the picture, it besmirches this great Blog. Good luck to him, just wished he had been a little more honest in the PAST. VILLA ANNUAL 2008!!!!!!!! He deserves to be playing football at his age, hey wouldn't we all however he lacked that extra yard of pace which as already said earlier the Delf has in abundance. Last thing he didn;t cost us a penny so good business. Lets just watch out on April 25th.
Comment 21, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.48 pm

tonydaleysdodgyhairdo said:

0
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Stephen Warnock will be out for at least 2 weeks MON says. Shorey is being recalled on Thursday but won't be able to play against Fulham as he received a red card.

Heard a nasty rumour from Liverpool fans that they are going to make a bid for Warnock, obviously complete rubbish as they have no cash, but do you think there is any chance of this happening? Plus Jones anyone (not vinnie)
Comment 22, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.48 pm

VillaNick said:

0
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o'halloran : hasn't he had to give up football because of injury?
Comment 23, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.48 pm

Chrisodon said:

Chrisodon
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I Thought he'd recovered in the summer. Shame if he's been sold he could have been good.
Comment 24, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.50 pm

apocalypso said:

0
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A few years ago craig gardner was quoted (in a matchday programme i think) as saying he was at wembley when we beat leeds utd in the league cup in 1996...

makes me think he was/is a villa fan...
Comment 25, made on January 26, 2010 at 2.55 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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Villa fan Gardner is understood to have emerged as a potential target for newly-promoted local rivals Wolves and Birmingham, plus relegated Middlesbrough.


Is he a bluenose or a Villan?>smilies/sad.gif
Comment 26, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.06 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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I think O'Halloran is still at BMH, but i never see him in reserve team lineups. Maybe hasn't quite recovered like Bouma.

Didn't Liverpool push Warnock out by signing Aurelio when he was pushing for the first team? Why would he go back, I realise they might want him because they got average fullbacks hanging out of the arse, but I think he's found his place. Hopefully he'll finish his career here. Christ, he's only been at the club five minutes, no way MoN will let him go he spent over a year trying to bring him in!

smilies/wink.gif
Comment 27, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.07 pm

Jake Gardner said:

GonzoAvfc
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i have friends who are family friends of gardners, his whole family are villa
Comment 28, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.08 pm

john said:

johnnyuk
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Bit hard to get emotional about a player who's not really had chance to play for us, even if he is one of our own. Surely there were other teams in for him than B'ham?
Comment 29, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.08 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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With Gardner his whole family are Bluenoses, but he has been on Villa's books since he was a schoolboy and has almost certainly been a Villa fan himself since then. He says in his interview about brum 'the club I supported as a boy'. Past tense is the clue.smilies/wink.gif
Comment 30, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.09 pm

Vijay Daryanani said:

vijay
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I cant believe that he says now that he has supported the scum as a boy, why didnt he tell us before?!?!?!
Comment 31, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.10 pm

BillyBoy7 said:

0
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Shorey is suspended tonight for Forest v QPR, SO if he is recalled he will be eligible to play for us on Saturday i believe.
Comment 32, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.13 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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JPA

Im not stupid, I noticed that smilies/tongue.gif

Theres contrasting stories on here.. you say all bluenoses, Gonzo says all Villa!!

Comment 33, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.14 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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yeah - it is down

made me feel a bit rough seeing it. sorry

Good man Damian, That's a much better picture to remember him by.
Crap slogan,
orrible shirt,
crap facilities,
dodgy chink owners

Couldn't have put it better myself smilies/cheesy.gif
Must have been a bit of a shock looking around their training ground.
He'll be their hailed as their best player before the end of the season and everyone will say how good a signing he was and how MoN never should have sold him

Definitely.
Comment 34, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.15 pm

Ciaran McDonnell said:

Ciaranzo
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Warnock will hopefully never play under Rafa again after what he said about being dropped for the Carling Cup final by him after playing every round beforehand. As fickle as players are that one has got to stay in the memory.
Comment 35, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.17 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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Heard a nasty rumour from Liverpool fans that they are going to make a bid for Warnock, obviously complete rubbish as they have no cash, but do you think there is any chance of this happening?

Very doubtful, imo.
Warnock holds a bit of a grudge about when he was kicked out of Anfield.
Comment 36, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.18 pm

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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I didn't think I would be bothered but you know what, its really pi**ed me off! Can't stand them, I really can't.

They must have been embarrassed showing him around the ground/training facilities when they knew how good it is where he came from.

Own goal please Mr 'bluenose' Gardner!
Comment 37, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.20 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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I was reading some of the Mail's readers comments about Gardner.
A couple of them suggested he's a waste of money smilies/grin.gif

Bloody knuckle draggers smilies/sad.gif
Comment 38, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.22 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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I cant believe that he says now that he has supported the scum as a boy, why didnt he tell us before

It's probably a load of old flange, designed to play down the ex-Villa player thing.
Maybe Agent Ridgewell advised him to do it?

Got any rumours mate? smilies/tongue.gif smilies/wink.gif
Comment 39, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.27 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Honestly he'll be a bloody excellent player for them in time.

Warnock holds grudge at Anfield because of Rafa dropping him for Aurelio when he was pushing for a first team place every game.

He's home now, hopefully he'll finish his career here.

Chris, just going on what i've read. I heard a long time ago that his family were blues, but when the lads signed for us they were nowhere. It rings true to me, I just think you give your kids the best shot you can despite who you follow.smilies/wink.gif

I was reading some of the Mail's readers comments about Gardner.
A couple of them suggested he's a waste of money

They wouldn't know a good player if he went through next doors bins first.
Comment 40, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.32 pm

Dutch Villa said:

0
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Even if Warnock wanted to go back to Liverpool (and why would he?), he cannot play for them as you cannot play for three teams in the same season (he played for Blackburn in August before joining Villa)
Comment 41, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.33 pm

david gabbey said:

bfastvilla
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im really gutted i missed the picture.

Of subject but as i live in ireland i get real no chance to see reserve or youth team players. Is the Fonz a regular goal scorer at all levels so far or are we maybe pinning too much hope on him.

Comment 42, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.52 pm

Aaron Wilson said:

Aero-4-Villa
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Gary is much better than Craig and thats one more obstacle out of his way in getting into the Villa team. From what ive seen - hes gonna be the new Stevie G and maybe a future Villa captain too!

Im not gonna say good luck to Craig because anyone with that amount of disrespect to the club that raised him doesnt deserve it! He can say goodbye to a Carling cup medal too.. and any future success.

Onwards and upwards now.

UTV!
Comment 43, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.53 pm

david gabbey said:

bfastvilla
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Warnock aint going nowhere, why would he?
Comment 44, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.55 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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We're going to meet them in the FA Cup final, aren't we, just like Barry in the league cup.

The boy has been jilted.
Of course he's going to talk up his new girl.
Comment 45, made on January 26, 2010 at 3.58 pm

Aaron Wilson said:

Aero-4-Villa
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"We're going to meet them in the FA Cup final"

smilies/cheesy.gif Them reaching the final? Best joke ive heard in a while!
Comment 46, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.04 pm

Car Frost said:

frosty
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It will turn out like Cahill .. his value will go up over night as he's now playing for a poor team and so looking good ( I'd look amazing playing next to Zat Knight )

But you can't call silver gold.. MON has got them both right imo, not far short of 10m for 2 backup players.. spot on..
Comment 47, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.17 pm

Les Smith said:

villa@herts
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O'Halloran had serious injuries last season while out on loan, I think to Swansea, his contract ran out at the end of 2008/9 season and was not renewed however the club have allowed him to continue to train at BMH and he is also able to use all the facilites there. I also thought he was a good defender with a bright future. Hope he regains fitness and plays again.
Comment 48, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.25 pm

colin badger said:

badge73
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shame it wasnt sidwell going to b-lose, but doubt if we would get £3.50 for him based on this seasons form. if we could sell shorey and maybe salifu and osbourne its money of the wage bill. would love us to invest in a poacher type striker but wont hold my breath. just dont want to go down the same road as last year, losing games through out feb and march and watching the dream of 4th place fading away. maybe it will be our turn this season to snatch it in the last few games.
Comment 49, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.28 pm

sazavfc said:

0
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gardner actually said like 3 years ago, when he made his debut, that he was a bham city fan. didnt anyone know :S
Comment 50, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.40 pm

stephen may said:

flowershopboy
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I Like Gardener , can't blame him for wanting 1st team football , was never given full run , but thats up to MON , best of luck Craig!
Comment 51, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.52 pm

Longman1980 said:

0
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Villa or Blues fan, he is now a scummy little nose playing for an abhorrent team and I will from this day forward detest him as I do any little shite that wears that disgusting blue and white.
Comment 52, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.56 pm

Andy Rock said:

0
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The fact we're selling average players like Gardner illustrates how far we've moved on under O'Neill. Blues have Gardner, we have Milner. No need to say more.
Comment 53, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.56 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
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Good transfer window business.

Reverse the scenario; imagine us signing a player that couldn't get into their starting XI, and whatsmore making the assumption that he was going to be our midfield playmaker who moves us onto the next level.

Clowns indeed.

He's a head down version of Barry. No future.
Comment 54, made on January 26, 2010 at 4.58 pm

neil-bangor said:

0
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It is not becoming to disparage Craig.
He was a 100% player and I am sorry he did not make it.
His brother looks to be the real deal, prob reads this blog.
Hatred is a weakness.
I wish him all the best.
UTV
Comment 55, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.03 pm

Michael said:

VillaFanMike!
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Craig gardners Uncle lives round the corner from me and hes a Villa fan. His 3 kids all have Villa tops with Gradner on the back and ive always heard hes Villa!

Ohwell. Its sad that he has to lie to be accepted at Blues tbh.
Good luck to him though.


UTV!
Comment 56, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.18 pm

Ashamed Football Fan said:

0
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Bit embarassing reading some of these. Gardner was a good little player who tried 100% for Villa everytime he was on the pitch, scoring some great goals. He wasn;t getting first team football, and in my opinion would be above Sidwell and Delph in my pickings. He's left to a team who will probably appreciate him abit more than MON, and his policy of "favourites first". I love MON, but its a shame to have seen him drive out Steven Davis, Gary Cahill and now Craig Grander.
Comment 57, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.27 pm

James said:

Notforthefirsttime
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Not sure whether this has been linked to recently, but he sure could hit them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWDbFzaU47g
Comment 58, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.30 pm

chipper said:

0
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Ashamed Football Fan
what about liam ridgewell
Comment 59, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.42 pm

Ashamed Football Fan said:

0
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Again, another young talent shipped out, but the fans had already turned on that lad, for a few mistakes he made as a 19-year-old.

The same fans that boo Gabby, when he misses a one on one for the 8th time in a row.
Comment 60, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.48 pm

Scrumpy said:

0
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I wanna wish Craig all the best - don't care what bteam he has gone to, or who he actually supports - I never doubted his commitment when he played, but this last year he has looked short of making it into the first team, reserves and bench at best. MON said at the Moscow dinner that Gardener had the heart of a Lion - he is going to need it playing with the Scum.

I am glad to see him go as I will feel a little safer sitting in the Holte End during warm ups. Gardeners shot could do someone some serious damage!! Good luck to him in the Championship soon.
Comment 61, made on January 26, 2010 at 5.56 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Ashamed Football Fan

i'm not sure if there is anything on this page to make you feel embarrassed, apart from maybe the comment from mickey86 but i am guessing that was said in frustration more than anything as it was the 2nd comment and was written as the news was confirmed
Comment 62, made on January 26, 2010 at 6.05 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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I see Palace have gone into administration;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...481549.stm

Comment 63, made on January 26, 2010 at 6.08 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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smilies/sad.gif

Why does it give me the wrong smilie?
Comment 64, made on January 26, 2010 at 6.09 pm

stephen said:

Chater1703
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does this mean gary gardner is a blues fan too?
Comment 65, made on January 26, 2010 at 6.13 pm

paul mclafferty said:

holteend paul
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chater1703..
gary gardner scored a great goal for the youth against?
you guessed it, the blues, while his brother was signing his name our kids were spanking his new youth team 5-0 smilies/grin.gif
Comment 66, made on January 26, 2010 at 6.27 pm

stephen said:

Chater1703
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haha saw that
Comment 67, made on January 26, 2010 at 7.03 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Good luck Craig in your new job. I hope that you find happiness and success, just please don't come back to haunt us!
Comment 68, made on January 26, 2010 at 7.15 pm

Alex Glynn said:

glynnder
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Spurs 1 up. It was coming but I wish it wwasn't the case.
Comment 69, made on January 26, 2010 at 7.41 pm

HolteEndHero said:

0
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I would say good luck, but Blues are having enough luck as it is.
Comment 70, made on January 26, 2010 at 7.45 pm

Longman1980 said:

0
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"I hope that you find happiness and success"

Sorry Andy, but that is taking it to far - remember who he has joined.

I always supported Gardner as did most fans, but it sickens me when he comes out and says all this crap about it being his boyhood team as if he is just trying to rub our noses in it. In my view it's not the way to act towards people who have supported you in your short career
Comment 71, made on January 26, 2010 at 7.59 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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http://community.footballpools...dictions/?

This is a review of the game tomorrow, there is a video clip to view, when it ends you get some more related vids to watch, click on the second one - the Cantona Headbutt montage. It's quite good. It also may take your mind off any bad news you've had today - like one of your mates running off with someone you hate.
Comment 72, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.00 pm

Ashamed Football Fan said:

0
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Damian,

Just my opinion, but I just get tired of the same old tired bollocks about our "hated rivals", when talking shit about them, just makes us look bitter and petty, especially when your comments dont actually look true. Their team is actually pretty strong this season, and when you consider that they will gradually get stronger with more prem money, then talking about them getting relegated looks abit unlikely considering they are only a few points away from us.
Comment 73, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.08 pm

James Clift said:

Jimbo Daventry Villa
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Villa Chris (comment 37)

You are so right I just spat my wine out laughing! (Wine is gay I know but the wife loves it and its more potent than a can of lager) Just imagine what he was thinking... It must be like being a millionare living in a palace then losing all your dough and an estate agent showing you round an ex council house!
Comment 74, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.20 pm

oldvillan said:

0
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cant see the problem with gardner going across the city he was never going to break into the first team on a regular basis,my sister was married into their family and most of them are bluenoses so no suprise with the comments.whats with all the talk of blues being shit and being relegated take a good look at the table it doesnt lie.anyway arsenal tomorrow and we should get the right result if we play 4-5-1 if we go 442 we will struggle against them again and except for cup games we are imploding in the league again.same old same old
Comment 75, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.27 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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Ashamed Football Fan
the thing is, this isn't their first time in the prem and they have had the money before and they have actually done quite well before but they are the typical yo yo club, as demonstrated by themselves and the number of times they have been relegated from this league against the number of seasons they have spent in it. I might use the phrase but it is just


Comment 76, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.29 pm

Peen Vageen said:

0
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Ashamed Football Fan..............you should be ashamed for defending the scum
Comment 77, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.40 pm

rocky marciano said:

rocky5
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Ashamed Football Fan, birmingham city football club are a ...wait for it...Shower Of Shit ! anyway we will beat france tomorrow or is it africa no sorry i meant arsenal 3-1smilies/wink.gif
Comment 78, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.44 pm

James said:

Nanwasafan
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Good God man, where would football be without local hostilities, indiscriminate abuse and age ripened hatred?

Without it we may as well all go and join the rugger buggers; wrestle naked and drink one another's wee.
Comment 79, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.56 pm

frem said:

0
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shit. spurs one. Keane played 13 mins, lets get him in.
If not him lets just get a good striker because we really really need one. its vital we get one.
Comment 80, made on January 26, 2010 at 8.58 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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Just my opinion, but I just get tired of the same old tired bollocks about our "hated rivals", when talking shit about them, just makes us look bitter and petty


If you don't hate the scum, there's someting wrong with you as a Villa fan imo.
It's the law, simple as.

Of course, it doesn't come down to wanting to fight or whatever, it's just a football thing, to me anyway.

Mind you, I've tried having banter with many knuckle draggers and the amount of times they've got aggressive and wanted to fight is laughable.
But not all, of course.

As for bitter and petty, the scum take some beating.
I've never experienced any similar rubbish from any of the other Midlands club's fans.
Comment 81, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.01 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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I should have said one of my best mates is a nose.
And even he has admitted some of their fans are total arseholes.

You can always tell them, they have gold jewellery that weighs a ton.

And a Bulldog smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 82, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.04 pm

Sasa said:

0
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£3.5m for garbage, the problem is we did the same last January.
Comment 83, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.13 pm

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
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lads anyone know is the match is on tv at all tomorrow. so will it be streamed???
Comment 84, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.16 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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Still not got that site I've given you about 10 times bookmarked Celtic?

It should be on;

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast....art=sports
Comment 85, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.23 pm

neil-bangor said:

0
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Nan, we are Villa fans with class.
We do not need to lower ourselves to other levels.
He will get regular play, there.
Not many of ours would be on Arsenal's.
We are a selling team of squad players not stars.
UTV
Comment 86, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.28 pm

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
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ha thanks badger but two things

even if it is listed there, it wont be on unless a tv station somewhere is showing it

and for some reason i cant get any of them to work for me

in fact the only things that ever do are iraqgoals, atdhe.net and occasionally veetle

i do appreciate it though!
Comment 87, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.28 pm

Dave said:

marmite61
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Ashamed Football Fan

Well you should besmilies/grin.gif
Praising that shower is not natural,it just goes against everything that is decent and normal.
Infact it ought to be illegal.

If there any knuckle draggers reading this,please allow me to translate for your benefit.
Ug ug ugh ug ugh

Hope that helps
Comment 88, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.44 pm

Aaron Wilson said:

Aero-4-Villa
...
Palace in administration.

Time to snap up Moses on the cheap. 3.5 million in the pocket.. grand job!

UTV
Comment 89, made on January 26, 2010 at 9.58 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
...
even if it is listed there, it wont be on unless a tv station somewhere is showing it

and for some reason i cant get any of them to work for me

I think there's about 6 or 7 possibles isn't there?

There should be one available.
Villa streams are showing it too.

It might be worth you subscribing to that for one match.

You need to D/L a player (instructions are on there) but if you can't get that to work either a) your computing skills are on a par with those of a scum fan or b) your internet connection is total pants.
Comment 90, made on January 26, 2010 at 10.51 pm

fripps said:

0
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can we get our tickets now?? its wed smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 91, made on January 26, 2010 at 11.08 pm

Mark said:

Mostyn
...
Crikey Damian, you really are way out of touch when it comes down to knowing football. The scum are 3pts behind us and Craig has gone to a solvent Premiership club to ply his trade. He will develop more there than in the reserves or on the bench here. Personally, I don't give a flying f**k who he supports, he always gave his best for us. Good luck to ya Craig.


Comment 92, made on January 27, 2010 at 5.52 am

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
...
Randy Lerner has invested £138.6m into Aston Villa since taking over the club in 2006.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/27/randy-lerner-aston-villa

Will it be enough for Damien smilies/wink.gif
Comment 93, made on January 27, 2010 at 6.13 am

Rod Bentley said:

Headologist
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"Randy Lerner is indeed adored by most Villa fans, and with very good reason.

- Investment in players, training facilities, Villa Park and infrastructure.
- Installation of a professional management team (without the 'i" in Ellis) to run the business.
- Vast improvements in branding, marketing and customer relations.
- The millions derived from shirt sponsorship donated to a local charity, and involvement of the club and players in this and many others.
- Low ticket prices, occasional free transport for 4-5,000 fans to away games, free scarves, free flags etc. etc.
What more can the man realistically do?

If he has funded the purchase via loans then it is fair to assume that there are likely some good tax-effective reasons for him doing so. Should he be the recipient of those benefits? Why not? Should a business that receives a loan pay the interest? Of course! It should also be noted and appreciated that a Lerner investment (Aston Villa) is in debt to a Lerner company rather than a consortium of bankers.

Lerner is an intelligent and successful businessman with a real interest in the game and a genuine passion for Aston Villa. He invested GBP62 million to purchase the club, came armed with a five year business plan, and has stuck to it with a further GBP76 million to strengthen the club both on and off the pitch.

The result of this investment? 16th when he took over, to 11th, to 6th, and to 6th again last season. European nights have returned to Villa Park, we presently sit nicely in the league, are in the League Cup Final and in the last 16 of the FA Cup. Only the deluded would say that the man hasn't delivered.

If Aston Villa has a monetary debt it is, in my opinion, far smaller than the debt of gratitude owed to Randy Lerner by genuine Villa fans. His name will be chanted long and loud at Wembley, and deservedly so."

Couldn't have put it better

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2010/jan/27/aston-villa-randy-lerner
Comment 94, made on January 27, 2010 at 6.28 am

Richard Bunn said:

leawaylittleman
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Headologist...well said.

Good Guardian column as well.

UTV smilies/grin.gif
Comment 95, made on January 27, 2010 at 7.11 am

neil-bangor said:

0
...
Great article.
We are so well respected.
As someone wrote earlier, the venom for Craig was pathetic.
I have no prob if directed at the clowns smilies/wink.gif
utv
Comment 96, made on January 27, 2010 at 7.20 am

Ashamed Football Fan said:

0
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Mostyn said:
Mostyn
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Crikey Damian, you really are way out of touch when it comes down to knowing football. The scum are 3pts behind us and Craig has gone to a solvent Premiership club to ply his trade. He will develop more there than in the reserves or on the bench here. Personally, I don't give a flying f**k who he supports, he always gave his best for us. Good luck to ya Craig.



Most intelligent moment on this page so far
Comment 97, made on January 27, 2010 at 7.50 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Made me shiver when I read this....

If Aston Villa has a monetary debt it is, in my opinion, far smaller than the debt of gratitude owed to Randy Lerner by genuine Villa fans. His name will be chanted long and loud at Wembley, and deservedly so."
Comment 98, made on January 27, 2010 at 7.55 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
...
Of subject but as i live in ireland i get real no chance to see reserve or youth team players. Is the Fonz a regular goal scorer at all levels so far or are we maybe pinning too much hope on him.


bfast villa,
Fonz samashed all of Gab and Vassell's scoring records in the academy and the reserves. He is the most prolific young striker we've ever had at youth level, so the hype is justified imo. Plus he seems to score whenever he starts in the first team.smilies/wink.gif
Comment 99, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.09 am

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
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Anyone else stuck in online queue for wembley tickets? Can't see me getting in to work much before 11am!
Comment 100, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.19 am

Dave said:

Dubai Dave
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what has happened to Bouma?
Comment 101, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.19 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Yeah Squirrel!! smilies/tongue.gif
Comment 102, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.20 am

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
...
At least only 10 mins til Jeremy Kyle - should get Gardner doing a lie detector to establish who he supported as a boy.
Comment 103, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.21 am

Damian said:

Damian
...
Mostyn

if me not knowing where they sit in the league table is being out of touch - then i'm afraid i am not

but. they can be classified as a yo yo club simply because every time they come up - they eventually go down

as for your comments about gardner - i'm impressed to learn that you are so up to date with the financial stability of the club so soon after a new owner came in - very impressive Mostyn and just for the record - the word solvent, in the context you used it, means the ability to pay its debt - the likes of liverpool and manchester united are solvent despite new owners piling loads of debt onto the club and we are solvent - despite huge amounts of debt getting piled onto the club also

Headologist
look - randy lerner is fantastic but you shouldn't believe everything you read in the paper.

as for all those nice things you put down:
-'he' hasn't made any investment in players - 'the club' is in debt to the tune of £73mn according to the last filed accounts to other companies - okay the new accounts are coming out soon so there is every chance lerner has done what the new man city owner has done and written off the debt in return for more shares in the company - but we have to wait and see

-work on the training facility, that still creates tired players, was started before lerner took control of the club

-okay the mosaic at villa park is noce. so is the statue of mcgregor, scrub that last one, it was paid for by the fans - but these things are superficial and done at little expense

- what professional management team? exactly who has been employed - from what i can see - not much has really changed in terms of people - in fact some would say it is just the same as under ellis http://goo.gl/w3BU

- as for branding etc. yep great, but i still dislike the cartoon badge - but its just modern business and something everyone accepts ellis was no good at - but we still have one of the worst websites in the league - how about that for branding

- we dont have a shirt sponsor and it was given away because we couldn't find anyone willing to pay what we valued. if we did find someone, acorns would be gone quicker than you can say 'dont believe the hype'

- low ticket prices - should read 'ticket prices kept low from when ellis was at the club, occasional free transport , like a lot of other teams and when in carling cup - whihc is a bigger allocation of tickets which means more money for villa the more supporters they take and as for the free scarves and flags - woop woop

i'm actually all for an increase in ticket prices agreed with supporter groups in advance based on progress each season - basically the better we do the more we put in (easy for me to say i know)

sorry to aim this at you .. it's just that yes, lerner is fantastic and is doing the right things but just because something is in a paper doesn't make it true and more often than not these days if something is in a paper it is there for a reason, not for news - but lerner needs to put in more money if we are to challenge for top four and stay in the top four
Comment 104, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.23 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
...
Damian, You really do have a knack of seeing the worst in people.

If you acquired a business would borrow business loans against the value of the business and try and make the money back by increasing turnover to pay the loans or would you plow your life savings into it?

The club is slicker, has better facilities, looks better and commands more respect in the game than we did for long periods under Ellis. Lerner has updated the club, increased turn over, increased the value and made top four a viable possibility rather than a pipe dream. Have a Kit Kat mate, everything in the article is true to some extent and I found it quite uplifting too. I think we've got the best owner in the prem.smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 105, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.32 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Jesus Damian, it's a hard life being a Villa supporter! I think not.

Cheer up man, enjoy our rise. The sleeping giant is rubbing the sleep from his eyes and is ready to eat his cornflakes! Be thankful to Mr Lerner and Mr O'Neill for this!
Comment 106, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.34 am

Damian said:

Damian
...
Juan Pablo Angel
i agree with you

Villa_Chris
i am thankful
Comment 107, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.41 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Do I smell sarcasm? smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 108, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.44 am

BobbyPark said:

0
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Does it really matter who Gardner supported as a boy ? in all his time at Villa he's given 100% and played everywhere he's been asked to play (usually out of position)without moaning, in other words a model pro ! I think we've lost our most gifted striker of the ball and I'd much sooner Sidwell had gone.

Good luck Craig.
Comment 109, made on January 27, 2010 at 8.47 am

Damian said:

Damian
...
Villa_Chris
no. it is all good, but lets wait and see until the end of the season
Comment 110, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.02 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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I think we've lost our most gifted striker of the ball


You must not of seen Delph's shot then mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFfb9JhWHM
Comment 111, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.03 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Sounds like you're hoping to be proved right Damian??
Comment 112, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.05 am

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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One that caught my eye in the Gruniad article is that player's wages have doubled.

Any thoughts?
Comment 113, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.05 am

kieron said:

ronvilla
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Anyone elase trying get tickets for the final off the web this morning. Its a nightmare!!
Comment 114, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.06 am

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
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Yes Ron, I'm about an inch and a half, what about you smilies/wink.gif
Comment 115, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.08 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
Yes Ron, I'm about an inch and a half, what about you


Keep it clean fellas!!smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 116, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.11 am

kieron said:

ronvilla
...
Well it got half way then i refreshed and it went back to two inches! Gutted!!
Comment 117, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.12 am

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
...
Gudjohnson to spuds/west ham. Type of player we could do with, creative enough to play behind main striker but also weighs in with fair share of goals. I can't say i've seen him play for a while and not sure we would pay the wages but would be worth a punt on a short-term or loan deal.
Comment 118, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.18 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
...
Cheers for the link Chris, that lad is gonna be one hell of a player. Our very own two footed, little black Stevie G. I might get his name on my shirt next season.smilies/cheesy.gif

Damian, surely you're not going to judge Lerner's success on league position? So if we finish 4th he's brilliant, if we finish a point behind in fifth he's ok, but if we finish a massive two points off CL in sixth we've gone backwards and Lerner out?

As a chairman and owner he should be judged differently don't you agee?
Comment 119, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.19 am

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
...
Squirrel, scraping the barrel, No better than what wee have and he's less prolific than Carew and less creative than Milner. His legs have gone and that is why W/Ham are looking at him. Harry wants another striker, but no one will buy Pav so he hasn't got the dosh so he's going for the cheap option.
Comment 120, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.21 am

Steve Clayton said:

Squirrel
...
JPA - Still think he will give us another option instead of just swapping one big man that doesn't score regularly with another big man that doesn't like running, which is the usual tactic. He wouldn't replace Milner but play as a 2nd/link striker.
Comment 121, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.26 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
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I think he'll do well there, he's a good player. Reminded me a bit of Lee Bowyer in his younger days, without being a total c*ck.

I'm dead excited about his younger brother, I've seen him play twice now and he is in a totally different league to his team-mates and the opposition. A class act in the making.

Talking of youth players- what the hell happened to Harry Forrester? I heard a rumour he'd been released because he had a dreadful attitude. Anyone know? Because he was big money (£2m?) for a 15/16 year old... But he'd have just turned 20 now.
Comment 122, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.27 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
...
No probs JPA. The two against Walsall are just pure class.
Comment 123, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.29 am

Michael said:

mickey86
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perhaps it was a little harsh saying i hope he breaks his leg, but you have to think hes a bit of a tw@t, this time last year he was a lifelong villa fan, now he has made his dream move to a team he has supported as a boy? if he was a lifelong villa fan this time last year he must of hated the team he is at now so cant be a dream move.
Comment 124, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.51 am

Damian said:

Damian
...
Juan Pablo Angel

how do you suggest an owner/chairmen be judged?

all i am suggesting is we need more money spent on the playing side of the business
Comment 125, made on January 27, 2010 at 9.59 am

Christian said:

Christian1983
...
Mickey,

It's a publicity exercise. It calms any potential flak the Blues might harbour for him (much like Villa fans did for Lee Hendrie, any bad game and it was 'he's a Bluenose...').

For us, supporting our club is life or death. For these guys, it's a job. And if they can ply their trade at the team they 'support' then all the better for them. Otherwise, they'll say/print whatever needs to be said. Much like when people go for job interviews- 'oh yes, i've always wanted to work for Wernham Hogg, a brilliant company and one I've admired since i graduated...'
Comment 126, made on January 27, 2010 at 10.01 am

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