Written by Damian Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:32
There is some speculation about James Milner and him handing in a transfer request when he gets back to England, but it is just speculation - believe it at your peril and it doesn't matter - we will still finish sixth or seventh next season.
The World Cup is the perfect excuse as to why we have not signed any one yet, but it is a good excuse at the moment - because for all we know Martin O'Neill could have handed a list of four players to Randy Lerner three months ago, Randy Lerner could have approved it and Paul Faulkner could be just waiting for each player to get knocked out.
They could also just be waiting for England to be knocked out before showing this list to Milner and convincing him to stay be demonstrating they are serious about truly challenging for something in the very near future.
It could be that all those things happened or it could be that there is nothing left to take out of Aston Villa and there is no more money coming unless Lerner finds a buyer or an investor.
Germany v England
There really is very little Aston Villa to talk about without speculating and if Milner does come back and hand in a transfer request, it wouldn't surprise me and it probably wouldn't surprise you either.
So instead of Aston Villa - we have Germany v England and that is what I guess most will be thinking and talking about today.
So, I am putting beer in fridge, turning on the radio and forgetting Aston Villa - it is the big one today and if we win another big one. Can England really do it?
Hopefully more Aston Villa news next week and you never know, someone might get a glance of that list on Paul Faulkner's desk signed off by Randy.
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scuffles
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... The only way england can win is if we play heskey up front as a lone striker, let him get his hat-trick  |
Lew Chatterley's Lover
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... 30 million for Milner would be great business and we'd get that now after his performance against (championship level) Slovenia. If I was MON I would go for 15 million plus Barry and Ireland, then spend the other 15 on Bent with Heskey going the other way. |
corpy
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... I agree all the speculation about Milner is just so wide of the mark is makes me laugh so much i cant breath ! I think milner knows deep down Aston Villa are the team that helped get him to were he is today ! I think he will stay on at Villa ! And fingers crossed he does amazing again today and scores against germany and sets a goal up :-p and we will sell him after the world cup when he singley wins it for England man city can they buy him for 70 million :-) replace him with 3 good Players then I think he should stay on one more season help us into that 1st-4th place and if we dont finish in 4th then we will sell him and let him got for 30 million ! just like barry did he stuck around for a extra season |
Billy7
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... I think James Milner has a bit more about him than handing in a transfer request. I dont think there will be any need to as I am sure we will get offered around £25m for him and accept, even more if he plays like he did last week and England progress, and that would be good business, big profit, aswell as Ashley Young, Fabian Delph and Gabby will ALL make us big profits as and when we want to cash in. |
Damian
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... Billy7 didn't he hand in a transfer request to force his move from newcastle to villa in 2008? |
Clarkamus
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... yes but newcastle were in turmoil and fighting relegation its a completely different scenario |
scuffles
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... I would gladly take 15 odd million and stephen Ireland for milner, and use the cash to bring in a good young defensive mid. |
Damian
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... Clarkamus and nobody is questioning that - Billy7 wrote that he thought James Milner had a bit more about him than handing in a transfer request - well, he doesn't - not if he wants a move the only thing we don't really know is if Milner wants am move |
Damian
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... Everyone see the new sponsors of Fulham too: http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/N...0rxPutF00/ really puts things into perspective now |
bert
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... I think the people claiming that Villa have made Milner the player he is are a bit wide of the mark. he is good, and he was good when you picked him up. take the money and use it wisely |
AussieLion
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... Having the same sponsor as Fulham will be weird. Hopefully the deals between us and Fulham arent the same, if they are we wouldnt be getting that much. |
Jimbo Daventry Villa
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... I'd sell him regardless of weather he puts in a request or not. £28m for an average premiership player? Thank you very much.. Potentially that kind of money could buy us a Champions League spot next year. |
DAJ
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... The only reason as to why Milner would hand in a transfer request, is if we wont let him go. We will let him go because we need the cash to strengthen, but it has to be on our terms. Milner knows this and Man City or whomever knows this. Milner knows he will get his move if he wants it. Personally, if Martin tries to hold the player at the club against his will, then i think Randy should sack him. Once the effect of the World Cup wears off and Man City then look elsewhere, his value will plummit and we would have missed out on the chance of really revamping the side with some serious money. Trouble comes when you have Martin as the man whom is going to spend it. We wont spend until we sell, and this deal is proberly the corner stone of our summer spending plans. We can not drag our feet over this, and if Martin does, then we may aswell look for another manager. |
VillaWerner
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... Anybody seen this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related  I think Capello is the only one who could bully Stuart Pearce |
Geoff
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... So financially speaking we are Fulham...at least in the eyes of the sponsor. One good thing, if they are a big enough company to sponsor two Prem clubs then maybe they gave both of us a load of cash... Yes, when someone hands in a transfer request it is generally because the manager or the club brass are excessively blocking his ambition. Wow, Germany are putting on a counterattacking clinic here. |
frem
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... arteta apparently wants to move back to spain. this probably means they will get ireland  i just wonder who oneill has eyed up for milner going. jenas |
Genital Grinder
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... Sepp Blatter needs to be forced out now. This is ridiculous. First Ireland, now England, how can the only person in the WORLD who doesn't want to use technology, have the final say? Cos he's the bloody president of FIFA, and he needs to resign, get fired, or get shot JFK style. (By 2 gunmen, not a quiet loner) |
Geoff
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... They do need video replay. However, England are getting destroyed right now. SO it should be 4-2. England getting beat 4-1, and what is the manager's saving grace? Yes, Defoe off, Heskey on. HAHAHAHAHA. My latest ideas Out Milner (part exchange and cash) NRC - Sidwell, and the rest of the surplus bench players Heskey or Carew Davies (swap, both players valued at similar price 6-8M) In Keane (Swap) Ireland (Partial Swap) De Jong (Partial Swap) Right Back (not sure yet) If Mexico loses today, the Guardado - if not, then McGeady (if not those two then maybe SWP) Falcao |
DanWilson82
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... I remember how I felt when we went out of Italia 90 to the Germans and it bloody hurt. Football was magical back then. We just got stuffed by the Germans and knocked out again but I couldn't really care less. Bunch of overpaid egos. Whatever happened to the game I used to love so much. |
Geoff
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... Wow, that team just flat out quit in the second half. I was disappointed in the US that we couldn't beat an inferior Ghana team. But England just got a terrible drubbing. They looked old and slow and listless. I think England has to go with a mostly young new fresh team in a few years time. I would expect to see Gabby and Ashley Young in the starting 11 next time, with Joe Hart as the main keeper. Also, this confirms it, Wayne Rooney is a FRAUD. And I do not want Barry back after seeing him get flat out burned by Mesut Ozil. I mean, even Carlton Cole who sucks could have scored some of those chances! For the US, Dempsey and Donovan will be back but as old men. The US does not have a true striker who can just bury it when he gets in the area. Thats what I saw with Germany, those guys just get a touch on it, wait, move, and then bury it with calm patience. The US simply lacks that. They have 4 years to find a real striker. England have 4 years to clear out Capello and the roster with the exception of 3 or 4 players. |
johnnyuk
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... Not wrong Dan, that's just how I feel about the game too. Don't think we want to win as much as other countries. |
Geoff
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... Meanwhile, how great would it be to have Jurgen Klinsmann as Villa's manager? The ESPN US studio analysts are Roberto Martinez, Alexei Lalas, Ruud Gillett, Jurgen Klinsmann, and Steve McManaman |
Stan Balaban
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... Classic quote from Graham Souness of all people about Gareth Barry on Al Jazeera.... "Is he thinking that Schweinsteiger is gonna get in behind me and set-up a goal? Course he's not! He's thinking about what he's going to have for dinner later!" |
Nath888
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... I think individuals issues in the team have played a big part in our results. Gerard had personal issues that will cone out soon, milner has transfer issues on his mind, the same with joe cole, too much pressure on Rooney, terry with his recent problems. A team built around individuals and not a solid team. |
Nath888
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... If this result doesn't prove to mon that we need to buy foreign then I dont know what will. |
Hong Kong Charlie
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... I think we can forget about getting a decent fee for Milner after his performances in South Africa. If we're lucky, we'll get our money back; we should've sold him before England's capitulation in the World Cup. Why he was given such generous applause when he left the field against Germany, God only knows. A shameful performance in an appallingly ungifted and overpaid team. |
frem
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... in a way im pleased we are out(villa are much more important anyway)because mon can start thinking transfers now. get milner out in the next week and start dealing. i bet oneill hasn't contacted any clubs about other players |
Damian
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... DanWilson82 you ruined it mate - you are to blame so am i. so are the vast majority that read this site we accept paying £45 for a football shirt that cost £1 to make we pay our money to the TV companies each year. we pay the ticket prices and bottom line - we demand more we should hold our hands up to some extent and we should accept that we did this to the game but the premier leauge, scrap that; FIFA, along with the football associations of england, scotland, wales and northern ireland can fix it - they are the ones that can really fix football but they wont - because they all have much deeper interests than doing what is right |
Genital Grinder
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... Are you saying the FAI are a bunch of cowboys and can't fix anything Damian? Well you'd be bloody right. |
frem
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... Martin O'Neill looking at a straight swap involving Robbie Keane and Curtis Davis. This will allow him to use the money from the sale of Milner, Sidwell, Shorey, Reo Coker, Luke Young and Beye on 5 further players. There is no truth in the McGeady rumour however expect an attempt to get Hart, Migel, Ireland and Falcao. Also the return of Barry may be on the cards, what you think ed? {editpr's note – would O'Neill take Barry back? He doesn't exactly seem the forgiving type, but I do keep hearing that move rumoured.} saw this on a rumour site. wouldn't mind it happening but again its a toof tosh |
Geoff
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... Yes, Milner's situation has to be resolved immediately. I expect him to be out the door by Friday. Deal agreed, wages agrees, player exchange agreed upon, and by Friday I expect Milner to be holding his Man City shirt at a Presser with Mancini. Meanwhile MON will be greeting Ireland or De Jong or both and counting and sorting the cash leftover. |
Hong Kong Charlie
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... I agree with Geoff, that England needs to clear out the golden age...sorry, second hand pewter boys and bring in some young English talent. This is why I fundamentally disagree with Nath888 -one of the key reasons that the England team is as inept and as lacking in skill as it obvoiusly is, is simply because there isn't enough choice - 35% of the Premier League is English. We do not give enough of our own home grown players an opportunity at the top level. Compare this figure with the percentage of German players playing in the Bundesliga or Spaniards in the Primera. In the final analysis, we were lucky to qualify for the second round of the World Cup and the only way we can develop as a national team is by putting a cap on the number of overseas players representing Clubs in the Premier League in order to allow our own players to develop and flourish. I know this won't make me very popular with Guardian readers but something needs to be done otherwise future England squads will be drawn from the Conference National. |
rocky5
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... barry can stay where the f**k he is the fat slow cock,just like terry,upson,lampard,johnson etc,all slow and inept.johnson is the worst rightback i`ve ever seen play for england.capello is a big massive c**t who needs to f**k off too,and if milner wants to leave then so what,f**k off.he`s nowhere near the quality of ozil muller etc just overhyped s**t like the whole national side.  |
vivavilla
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... Was Capello possessed by the spirit of Martin O'Neill today? Can somebody please tell me how a man who is paid £6m a year believe it to be a good move to bring on Emile Heskey when 4-1 down? Please? Somebody? |
DanWilson82
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...DanWilson82 Your right... I'm off to hang myself, bye lads |
dingbat
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... No Damian Sky Sports are as much to blame.Making superstars out of very average plyers! |
dingbat
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... Hong Kong Charlie- Beer bellied Sunday morning Warley League players would show more fight and desire than those clowns today! |
rocky5
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... i can`t wait for the euro qualifiers with the same old faces lampard,barry,terry,johnson,heskey.heskey should be locked up in the tower of london until 2020 just to make sure he don`t play for us or england again.And suprise suprise capello aint gonna resign |
vivavilla
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... Here's my guess at the 2014 starting lineup  Joe Hart Kieran Gibbs Ryan Shawcross Gary Cahill Kyle Naughton Adam Johnson James Milner Jack Rodwell Jack Wilshere Wayne Rooney Nathan Delfouneso hmm... might take that down the bookies actually... |
rocky5
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... quote from fat frank " Nobody can stand here and tell me Germany were a lot better than us. They were not 4-1 better than us ". well frank your right germany were probably 8-2 better than us. |
Damian
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... vivavilla that team minus rooney would have done better than the team we put out this time round |
dingbat
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... Reports that David Blaine is well peed off cause Wayne Rooney has beat his record for doing f--k all in the box!!! |
Simeon
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... England were poor today, that is obvious. But what people seem to be forgetting is that, had it been 2-2 at half time, the Germans couldn't have complained. Yes they looked marginally the better side in the first half, but both of their goals came from comical defending rather from irresistible play. England showed today that, at present, they are a poor side. But Germany showed today that they could quite easily have lost to a poor side, and the reason for that is that they are not a good side themselves. Aside from the fundamental problems that afflict English football, the two biggest factors in our downfall today were the shocking state of our defence (for which Upson and Johnson are primarily to blame) and Rooney's shockingly poor form. With a semi-competent back four and an average Wayne Rooney, England would have beaten Germany today - even with Gerrard at the standard he's currently at, and even with Lampard being played out of position and struggling with his game, and even with the England team's psychological frailties. Certain things have gone wrong for England that are outside of anyone's control - unless we're to assume that Rooney played badly deliberately. Capello cannot be blamed for injuries to key players (although he can be blamed for the lack of a contingency plan), or for other player's form deserting them, or for the brittle nature of the English players mentality. But Capello has made enough really poor, and in my view inexcusable, decisions to warrant the sack - if indeed he isn't going to resign. It is ridiculous that the greatest manager of the last twenty years has been so badly exposed in this job, but this is what has happened, and he has to go. I can imagine that there are reasons and excuses for Capello's failiure, and that some of them might even be good ones, but the truth is that he is not the right man for this job at this point in time and with this group of players. I hope there is a new England manager, and I expect him to be English, and the only two realistic candidates would be Hodgson and Redknapp. I think that either man might be capable of doing a decent job, but for me Hodgson must get the job. He has plenty of experience managing international teams, and he is a man of good character - neither of which you could say about Redknapp. I think one of the biggest reasons for Redknapp's success in club management is his ability in the transfer market. This ability is irrelevant in international management. And besides, I have a funny feeling Redknapp wouldn't be interested, and would rather stay at Spurs and build something there. |
Proxopera
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... At half time , the game was anybodys and england started the 2nd half well but it seemed that they needed far more players in an advanced position to make any impact on the german defence which was'nt great and the germans seemed to have acres in front of them when they broke. Also, when a german got himself in a position to take on the ball in an attacking position the ball was given neatly and accurately most of the time , whereas I lost count of the number of times the england 'playmakers' just concentrated on getting themselves into shooting positions from ridiculous angles and distances. It seems to me that the german 11 actually trust each other with the ball and will give it to whoever looks for it despite their perceived value but England just seem to use the same chanels most of the time and thusly are easier to defend against. Rooney, Lampard , and gerard seem to be competing against each other in some weird glory hunting version of x factor . Barry played ok in patches but appears to be even slower and more overweight than usual (menstrual cycle maybe ??) Milner was ok when he was given the ball but the germans definitely targeted glen johnson as a weak point. Terry is just a f**k**g eejit but James played very well considering how little protection he got. Just like the 7-1 against Chelsea , england are not as bad as the scoreline today suggests ( though it should have been more) but they do need to lose at least 3 egos to progress . |
Geoff
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... http://www.caughtoffside.com/2...gbonlahor/ Someone should ask for the source...but 44M is not enough for those two. How about Milner/Gabby for Tevez, haha...or Ireland/De Jong/Cash |
frem
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... city will now bid 44 million for gabi and milner. criste, the press just dont shut up |
eoin1981
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... Gotta love England at the world cup. I wonder if anyone would think of attatching maybe 1% of the blame with the players? Could some of them possibly be overrated? Could the 'golden' generation be a media myth? How many 'bad' managers are going to get blamed? Could one of the most respected people in world football be in fact correct when he says that Englands football is outdated and kick and rush? Could it be considered that 9-10 out of the english 11 would not get into every other team? The only suprise in Englands displays has been Rooney - their one true quality player. Terry was a shambles today, Gerrard is another media myth whos greed and lack of descipline destroys the team. England are not the super power in international football that they think they are. The only sadness for me is our manager only signs english players and we play the same kick and rush. |
mon 4-5-1
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... What a shambles today. Is it me or is it spreading when managers become so stubborn and want to prove a point that they miss the obvious. Gerrard captain and moved to the wing, when the whole nation knew his best position was behind Rooney. Look at the opposition, there key player Ozil did not play on the wing, they utilized him to his maximum potential and showed England how it's done, they played him down the middle. To many players who have produced inept performances through the competion, and are automatic choice. Abit ironic i guess, as it seems to be the same symtoms as the Villa team selections. At least England fans can now symphatise with Villa fans, as we have had to endure a whole 2 seasons of these kind of team selections, and maybe we won't be called fickle any more. I can compare the selection of Fat Frank in the England squad, to the selection of Petrov for Villa in the middle of the park. In both instances they both produced nothing , and will produce nothing, and surely there days a numbered. And finally what this world cup has shown is, if you are going to play 4-4-2 then you need to play the right players for this system, and not necessarily your best players. I.E Lampard and Barry in the middle, was never going to work, both not mobile enough. Lets hope Mr O'Neil has been watching and realises he needs to ditch 4-4-2, or even put his name into the hat, if the England managers vacancy becomes available. Fingers crossed I guess, on both fronts. |
Lee Hendrie
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... In both instances you need more expensive beer and football practice - not just TV. Lets hope O'Neil has been watching and realises he needs to ditch YOURS 4-4-2 |
Rob_The_Villain
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... I seem to remember us being linked with Ozil about a year ago for around £8m! Imagine if that went through!! No chance of getting him now, he's got a move to Bayern written all over him. Also loved seeing Barry get left for dead, Ozil started about 10 yards behind him and within a few seconds was 20 yards ahead, I always said he had no pace! |
Maindog
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... We'r all too club orientated!the fans and the players. We may have the best league in the world but we will never have the best national team. Rooney is so average. |
Chiefy
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... Woohoo now we can see the club do something. My England shirt has been retired till someone worth supporting puts one on!!! Utter disgrace, golden generation remind me why that is, what trophy was it they won again?? None of them are fit to wear the shirt and all of them need to take a good long hard look at themselves. The Milner drama, who care's ?? honestly ?? so what he had one moment in the world cup, If middle eastlands want to pay 30million I will drive him there myself, further evidence that Milner is not the player everyone thinks he is. Rooney, if several sponsorship deals and promotion werent all linked in with the FA this clown should have been dropped from the first game. Our international game is dying and our country becoming a laughing stock throughout world football. The addiction to Greed and the "I want it now" generation is putting hault to our youth developing. Once a great footballing nation we have become a breeding ground for big ego'd, overpaid pre ma donna's that have no idea what it means to wear the lion's. While we strength other international teams by paying their players huge amounts to play in the best league in the world or own future internationals go without and their development trickles through. Many of the International team can now label themselves failures as they wont get another chance to put it right. Golden Generation another example of the british media giving the international team ego's and credit they dont deserve. FAILED GENERATION |
Damian
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... eoin1981 The only sadness for me is our manager only signs english players and we play the same kick and rush.when brian clough did it - it worked, because it was predominantly home nation players and that is our national game - that is why i call the way o'neill manages retro football - he is stuck in a time football forgot |
Damian
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... Maindog it also isn't the best league in the world - it is the highest paying and highest tempo league in the world - watch some of the football in spain, france, italy - far better than the stuff we get served up and that is just three leagues - there are loads more best league in the world is more media myth |
Chiefy
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...that is why i call the way o'neill manages retro football - he is stuck in a time football forgot I like that quite eloquent yet apt |
AussieLion
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... Stoke are apparently after Bentley! Why cant MON get him instead. I'd rather get him than McGeady! Also the Gabby and Milner for 44m thing has to be wrong. Together they'd be at least 50m at Man City prices. |
Alan fron Aussie
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... Simple quote - Gabby would not could have done better than Mr "I love me " Rooney - everyone would agree ?????? |
Andy
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... I really hope MON goes and gets the England job this time. We can then see his true abilities once and for all, because the tranfer budget factor will be removed and he can be judged simply on his tactics and man management. I don't give a rats ass about how the England team get on. All the hype before that this is the best team and the best chance we have had since 1966....Most of the players in the England team don't have any passion or balls to go out and really want to win. They players of today think they are bigger than the managers and the clubs. It's about time we started getting a breeding a culture where players should think themselves lucky to be footballers and to play for top club and play for England. In fact having watched all of the teams play I would be confident in saying that England have played with less passion and eagerness to win the WC than all the other teams and I'd include Italy and France in that. Just about every single England player needs to apologise to the fans and I reckon the FA and the players should pay back the cost of the flights to those that travelled for the lacklustle and shocking performances the England players have put in. |
Chiefy
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...Simple quote - Gabby would not could have done better than Mr "I love me " Rooney - everyone would agree ?????? My mom would have done better than Rooney !!! |
The Droyd
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... I still think the Premiership is the best league for quality. Certainly for entertainment. I watched the odd Spanish and Italian games last season and was bored s**tless by the constant passing sideways and dull football. The exception is Lionel Messi who is a joy to watch. The Premiership provides great, entertaining football. What is boring about it is the monopoly of of a few clubs. It's very predictable where most teams will finish. |
Alan fron Aussie
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... Well I guess if nothing else, we should now start to see things happening in the transfer market, as there are now no more excuses ?? It would be very upsetting if this time next week we are not talking about a signing or 2, or am i being a bit 2 wishful |
mon 4-5-1
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...I still think the Premiership is the best league for quality. Certainly for entertainment. Would agree with the above, but this is not down the the quality of English talent on display. It is due to some continental players playing in the premiership, which has reduced the kick and rush football and made it more entertaining league of today. How many English players do we have in the top 4 sides? Now can someone go and tell that to O'Neil!! |
Damian
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... The Droyd for sure, for entertainment, it is fantastic but lets be honest and you can only pick one - do you want entertainment of three points? you will pick three points every single time - and i will happily take three points every time i will also take a boring 1-0 every single week football isn't, or shouldn't be about entertainment - but we have that word thrown at us so many times we believe it is - it isn't |
The Droyd
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... Agreed but most of England's best players are at the top clubs. Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Cole, Johnson, Milner, Lennon, Defoe. Please note, I am talking about their abilities in The Premiership and not that collection of individuals masquerading as the England team. |
ak_27
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...It is due to some continental players playing in the premiership, which has reduced the kick and rush football and made it more entertaining league of today. Totally agree and I just hope the usual blame the foreigners in the league and the calls for reducing the numbers of over sea's players doesn't rare its stupid head once again in order to look for an excuse as to why England have failed. Foreign footballers are the reason why the English league is the most watched in the world and if the league was full of English players the English team would have been no better. England (along with Ireland, Scotland, Wales etc) all just have IMO the wrong approach to football and until they adapt a more continental keep ball possession style of play then they will never when a major comp. Then again this would make the EPL less attractive to watch. |
Chiefy
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...Then again this would make the EPL less attractive to watch. Swings and Roundabouts. England lost because they are s**t and for all their individual quality they can not play together. Now MON lets sign lots of players starting this week and lift the doom and gloom from at least the Villa part of the population....Not only will you be signing much needed players you will be doing your bit for man kind, making you, for now, a good egg.....Now chop chop first one in is .... |
Damian
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... The Droyd okay - but then rooney wasn't played like he plays for united, neither was lampard or gerrard - terry was not at 100% yesterday and cole was fine johnson is poor, milner was average (one good cross in the world cup) lennon and defoe didn't play enough |
Maindog
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... Damien. I have to disagree with you. The pace, tempo and end to end style of the Premier League is far more exciting than La Liga or Seria A. I watch a bit of Spanish football and it is very technical and stop-start. Its quite irritating to watch sometimes! The refs are very strict and any player that gets brought down, regardless of if he touches the ball, gets a free kick. Its nice to watch some lovely technique and slick attacking football but give me our hard hitting, exciting and fast paced Prem any day of the week! |
mon 4-5-1
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...Agreed but most of England's best players are at the top clubs. Droyd - Only 2 players of international quality in that list you mentioned, one of which did not turn up at the world cup. Gerrard and Rooney, rest all over rated and over priced. And for the greater cause, if we get 30 million Milner we should take it with both hands. |
Damian
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... Maindog you are actually agreeing with me but what do you want; end to end or 3 points? football isn't about entertainment or excitement or end to end - football is about winning |
mon 4-5-1
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...Damian said: Damian - football is about both. If you take the entertainment out of it, and base it purely on a results business,then we will be heading down the road of the Italians Serie A. Football will eventually die, having said that you cannot ignore the fact that it is also a results business. I guess its a fine balancing act. |
Chiefy
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... Damo -- arent you a lover of pretty football ? I was always banging on about not caring how we win as long as we do win |
Rortyboy
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... If a good World Cup puts up a player's price there must now be loads of French, Italian, English of course, and soon Portuguese players going for a bargain - get in there MON |
mon 4-5-1
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...Chiefy said: Chiefy - if you are a Stoke, Blackburn, LEICESTER CITY then yes, it's all about winning, regardless of it's passing game or hoof it up to the forwards from defence, and skip the midfield. I would expect abit more from the Villa as i think we can rise above that kind of football, with the resources we have as a club. |
Chiefy
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...Ferdinand insists Man Utd pal Rooney was 100% fit Oh right that settles it then he is just a spoilt little scouse s**t who cant handle the pressure of big games, drop him till he grows a pair !!!! |
Chiefy
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...I would expect abit more from the Villa as i think we can rise above that kind of football, with the resources we have as a club makes no difference how good the football looks unless you win !! |
frosty
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...Totally agree and I just hope the usual blame the foreigners in the league and the calls for reducing the numbers of over sea's players doesn't rare its stupid head once again in order to look for an excuse as to why England have failed. We failed because we are simply not good enough, Terry was man enough to admit it. I honestly don't think we under performed yesterday, sadly that is about our level. World class players perform on the world stage & with that in mind we don't have any right now. |
Damian
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... mon 4-5-1 there is balance and to reach utopia - you need beautiful football and players that can play that way but we dont have that luxury at aston villa so you have to take what you can get and at aston villa i would take boring 1-0 wins every week over the retro football we play Chiefy i have always said i will take boring 1-0 wins over anything else - because the aim of the game is to win i'd love the football to change but it never will with o'neill - i know that now - i have given up hoping |
mon 4-5-1
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...makes no difference how good the football looks unless you win !! Chiefy - but why can we not have both? For the Villa our football in general was s**te, and we did not exactly turn the league on it's head with our win ratio. Damian - Fulham and Roy proved that you do not need a huge amount of resources to play entertaining football, and achieve the results. Have to agree and do understand your point that under O'Neil this may be difficult, unless O'Neil gets a fairly large transfer kitty. |
DavidC
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...Foreign footballers are the reason why the English league is the most watched in the world Not sure about this. Generally I think the influx of foreign players have been benefical as a whole. But I genuinely think the very best foreign players still play abroad (Ronaldos, Villas, Buffons, Alves', Maicons, Sneijders). We're left with the second-tier performers (Tevezs, Ballacks) on the whole. Oh, and waves of dross (Salifous, Boatengs, Chucho Benitezs). |
ak_27
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...But I genuinely think the very best foreign players still play abroad (Ronaldos, Villas, Buffons, Alves', Maicons, Sneijders). We're left with the second-tier performers (Tevezs, Ballacks) on the whole For now but when/if they want a change to where they are playing there is a good chance that they will end up in England. |
Chiefy
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...Chiefy - but why can we not have both? For the Villa our football in general was s**te, and we did not exactly turn the league on it's head with our win ratio I am sure that that is the aim of every owner and manager throughout the world, one day we might have both but until that day arrives surely we have to worry solely about winning and winning only. Results make champions, pretty football is linked but only when you have the players to be able to play pretty football, to have better players you need funds and to have funds you need to win so the points and the result come first until the day comes when we have the funds to be able to aquire the staff to bring pretty football |
ak_27
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...Results make champions, pretty football is linked but only when you have the players to be able to play pretty football, to have better players you need funds and to have funds you need to win so the points and the result come first until the day comes when we have the funds to be able to aquire the staff to bring pretty football I have to say that in order to get more consistant good results then you have to in my mind start playing more possession based, patient football. Its not playing for the sake of looking good its playing the way that will give better long term success and this is where we (Villa) fall down. Its no coincidence that we have such a poor record at home the way we give the ball away. And i think Fulham have shown its not down to money and players but rather coaching and philosphy you get from your management team. I really hope Hodgeson doesn't go to Liverpool. |
Chiefy
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...I have to say that in order to get more consistant good results then you have to in my mind start playing more possession based, patient football. Its not playing for the sake of looking good its playing the way that will give better long term success and this is where we (Villa) fall down. Again I agree however to play this type of football, in my opinion, you need a manager who has managed on the continent and experienced this type of football first hand or a manager who is extremely and knows the game inside out. MON is just not that man and his style of football will bring success all be it limited and by fluke in stead of lots and by quality. Is it any coincidence that the best managers in the league with the best possession football have all managed on the continent at some point, or are Sir's with titles galore under their belt ? |
ak_27
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...MON is just not that man and his style of football will bring success all be it limited and by fluke in stead of lots and by quality Totally agree. When did you join the dark side Chiefy? |
mon 4-5-1
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...I have to say that in order to get more consistant good results then you have to in my mind start playing more possession based, patient football. Its not playing for the sake of looking good its playing the way that will give better long term success and this is where we (Villa) fall down. Its no coincidence that we have such a poor record at home the way we give the ball away. Totally agree, and if we look at the current top 4 this is how they play. Harry has done it Spuds, and if we are to do it then the football has to progress. Its abit ironic but both are linked, if you play good football the the odds are you are most likely to win more games, than if you play s**te football. Passing means posession - Posession means control - Control means chances - Chances means goals. |
mon 4-5-1
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...... Was about to say the same thing. Though you don't get into the top four by fluke. Over 38 games, you are were you deserve to be. |
Chiefy
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...When did you join the dark side Chiefy? I am on the side of the club, during closed season I speak my mind during the season i support whoever is in charge as I believe it is the right thing to do, distractions during the season are no good for the team or club. |
Chiefy
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...Over 38 games, you are were you deserve to be. Hence the reason we have been close twice but never quite made it, coincidence ?? How long will cup runs and europa league count as progress? have we progressed yes will we continue you to progress honestly dont know |
vogra.
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... I can never see us winning the World Cup in my life time, we're 15-20 years technicallyu behind Brazil,Spain and Portugal, for heavens sake Japan are much more comfortable with the ball than us, I bet Ashley Young,Downing and Gabby are glad they didnt get picked for the WC |
DavidC
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...Harry has done it Spuds, and if we are to do it then the football has to progress. I don't think Harry has. He plays attacking, pacey football. But its not possession based. Certainly not in comparison to some of the Spurs teams of the past. He plays with a big man up top, two pacey wide men, and two lumbering English centre-halves. What he does have that we haven't however is a touch of real quality in the centre of midfield. Thats the difference. With regards to next English manager - For Roy hodgson, read Steve Maclaren. Both had limited success in the UEFA Cup at unfashionable clubs. Both have excelled abroad. Both did/will fail as English manager. Why? There's too many powerful vested interests in keeping th current status quo. Sir Graham Taylor was spot on on R5 earlier when he said we prefer outr club football to our international football. Always have done, always will do. |
EnglandAvfc
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... Roll on the EPL....What a disgrace England are eh lads ? Glad Milner put in a good performance hopefully that knocked his price up a bit the more we can get the better as he is bound to leave us... Be the same next season if Ashley Young has a good season...Might aswell face facts we are and will be for a long while a selling club |
ak_27
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...For Roy hodgson, read Steve Maclaren. Both had limited success in the UEFA Cup at unfashionable clubs. Both have excelled abroad. Both did/will fail as English manager I never saw anything that good in McClaren and he also had a lot more resourses at Boro compared to what Hodgeson had at Fulham. The job Roy did there is truely fantastic when you look at where they were when he took charge. But you are right about him probably not being a succesful international manager im not sure he would really have enough time working with the players to get them playing his style of football. Sir Graham Taylor was spot on on R5 earlier when he said we prefer outr club football to our international football. Always have done, always will do. Probably right. |
vogra.
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... Id have no problem with Roy Hodgeson as England manager, he comes across really well when i've seen him interviewed. Capello should fall on his sword after yesterday, but i dont think he will. Looks like another huge pay-off for an England manager, when will these idiots at the FA learn, they are an utter joke, from Wembley to picking an England Manager..clowns |
ak_27
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... Right so who from this WC would we like MON to bring in? And they have to be realistic and gettable. For me so far i think Donovan and Nonda would be good signings. That Bradley for the USA is also a good player. |
Maindog
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...Right so who from this WC would we like MON to bring in? Suarez? Maybe have bigger clubs go in for him but just give it a bash! |
mon 4-5-1
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...Hence the reason we have been close twice but never quite made it, coincidence ?? Could be, and we may be the nearly team again for this season, time will tell, but with the current activity in the transfer market i looks like same old, same old.
agreed, said it all last season when certain people were all hyped up about cup runs. Cup runs are all about results, and luck, and do not entertain or depend on good football, where as the premiership does. So basing progress on cup runs is pointless, and we are only kidding ourselves if anyone thinks it is progress. Right so who from this WC would we like MON to bring in? O'Neil is so slow in the transfer market that the good ones are taken, so hopefully no one from the world cup is coming, as they will only be left overs that no body wants. |
The Droyd
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... I have always rated Capello. He did really well for England as we qualified. However I believe that as manager, the buck stops with him for that pathetic showing we have just witnessed in South Africa. He has got so much wrong in this tournament. So much. Off the top of my head I can list the following: 1) The selection of Heskey, not only in the squad but in the actual starting XI of half of the games. When we desperately needed goals against Algeria, starting with him was retarded. Bringing him on for Defoe yesterday when we needed 3 goals was beyond belief. 2) The selection of Rob Green against USA. Everyone in the country knew that was a terrible selection even before his Beadle Hands episode. 3) Not selecting a pacey centre back in the squad to play alongside w****r Terry. They were all donkeys. 4) Not selecting in the squad a right back that can defend. (O'Neill would never have done that!!!) 5) Relentlessly sticking to 4-4-2 when the players we have at our disposal are massively suited to 4-5-1. 6) Failing to get the best out of a very talented group of players. How many of the German team would be selected ahead of our players in a team? Maybe 2. 7) The selection in the squad of SWP ahead of Ashley Young. An utter travesty.  Playing Barry as a defensive midfielder. You need an athlete with pace and defensive abilities in this position. Someone like Mascherano. Barry is too slow and immobile for this position. Mascherano will nulify Ozil in the QF. For these reasons Capello has to go. It's not rocket science, these are basic factors that anyone can see. |
Delago
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... The Droyd I agree there are a lot of selection questions to be asked of the manager but what player showed any Bottle? What player showed any spirit? What player showed any pride? |
mon 4-5-1
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...4) Not selecting in the squad a right back that can defend. (O'Neill would never have done that!!!) lol..yes indeed, and have to agree Capello has to go, to many mistakes made. May be a good club manager, but that does not necessarily make you a good international manager. I liked the idea Andy Gray put forward last night David Beckham, or Alan Shearer good candidates, with passion for the international team, may rub off on some of the spoilt brats parading as England players. |
The Droyd
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... Beckham or Shearer for England? No thanks. I think a pre-requisiste of an England manager should be to have a track record of not only of football management but successful management. Neither of these has any unless you count a few months at relegation doomed Newcastle for Shearer. Hardly a recipe for success. I think Redknapp would be ideal for England. I would especially like this to happen as it would leave Spurs looking to replace their saviour. |
mon 4-5-1
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...Beckham or Shearer for England? No thanks. I think a pre-requisiste of an England manager should be to have a track record of not only of football management but successful management. Does the current England manager not have a good track record? Did Scolari not have a almost unblemished international record before he joined Chelsea? He was a disaster at Chelsea. There is a big difference between managing a international side, and managing a club side. Look at the team that beat us Germany, what was Lowes track record like prior to managing Germany, or Klinsman track record. Same can be said for alot of nations, where not all the managers are house hold names, prior to managing the countries. Basically something new needs to be tried, as what we currently have is not working. |
gareth baker
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... even though im welsh i do support england in tournaments(mainly the villa players). your next competative game is against us i think. im involved in youth football and in england i believe you start competative football at the age of 8 or 9 (full size goals and pitch) this is why you are s**t, because only the biggest , fastest , strongest players excell until the age of about 14ish when all the kids sizes even out then it becomes skill based again. by this time its too late this is why you have terry and upson instead of lucio,pique or any other defender who is comfortable on the ball. the welsh fa changed thier minimum age for competative footy to 12 a few years back and for all toshacks faults he now has a promising bunch of youngsters coming through ( bale,gunter,matthews,collison,ramsey,ledley,collins and church to name a few. personally i hope you stick with the "golden generation" for a while as if you play like you did yesterday when you visit Cardiff there may be a bit of a surprise coming up (wishfull thinking i know, but stranger things have happened.) oh and by the way suarez and podolski would be my additions to the villa this summer. up the villa. gb |
RayK
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... Does anyone think the total humiliation of English football and English footballers at the World Cup has justified MON's strategy of buying only English players (only one of whom replicated club form and is most likely to be sold)? |
DAJ
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... Seems Carew wants his furure sorted out before the start of the season. Talks were promised but as yet, take-ya-time Martin has not got around to it. Carew is happy to stay, but with only 12 monthes left on his contract, it looks like the club are looking at what offers may come in. Are we really that desperate for cash that we are willing to get rid of the only goal scorer at the club? With Milner on his way, the uncertainty that then surrounds our other star players will also increase. Still no sign of any incomings, problems selling our donkies, the sale of Big bad John will have me really worried as to where the club is heading. Even the links to players we are supposedly interesting in, are dull, and we know what the gaffers record is when buying dull players. Personally, if Big bad John leaves and the big useless lump of turd remains at the club, then i will certainly begin questioning whether its time for Martin to order a taxi. Im getting worried |
DanWilson82
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... I have an idea, we sell our entire first team to Man City for the following ammounts:- Friedel - (Keep due to age and low sell on fee) Cuellar - £12 (figure spoken about Madrid transfer a while back) Dunne - (keep due to age and low sell on fee) Collins - £15 million (bargain compared to what they paid for lescott) Warnock - £10 (full England international and we know the quality they posess) Ashley Young - £25 million seems fair Milner - £30 million is the asking price Petrov - (keep due to age and low sell on fee) Downing - £12 million (he hasn't got better or worse since joining) Gabby - £16 million (on a par with Bent and thats what he cost) Carew - £10 million (City will pay stupid money, hell they would probably pay me £30 an hour to clean thier toilets) Thats 130 million thanks very much. Now flog Davies for £6 million, Heskey for £3 million, Sidwell for £3 million, Shorey for £2 million, Reo-Coker for £4 million, Beye for £2 million and L.Young for £4 million, thats another £22 Million totaling £154 million. Whack that into a high interest account for 2 years and in the mean time play: Friedel Lichaj/Dunne/Clark/Some random kid Albrighton/Delph/Petrov/Bannan Delfouneso/Weimann. We will finnish mid table so no change and after the interest starts kicking in we can go and buy some stars if the ids don't make it. Lets face it, we don't stand a chance right now, would something stupid like this actually harm us as a club whatsoever? I hate Man City's owners, absolutely ruining the game... |
DAJ
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... Dont blame Man City, Dan. Blame the people who have allowed the game to prostitute itself. Lots of us say we hope we dont have rich owners like they do, but do we really mean it? Sport is dead, buying the title is the vogue thing. |
DanWilson82
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... Daj, your right I shouldn't blame the Man City owners, after all they are doing exactly what Abramovich did and what Hicks and Gillette intended to do and what many more will do. It just maddens me when I think about what football has become. The big '4' is sickening and only touchable by someone else who ploughs stupid money into a club. What happened to the days when it was Man Utd, Villa and Norwich scrapping it out to finnish top. I can think back to when I was a kid between roughly 90-95 and football was completely different. Even just watching results pop up on teletext on boxing day, it was awesome. England were a force and italia 90 was probably my favourite footballing memory of all time. Our victory in the CC cup in 94 was massive. I just don't get the same feeling anymore. Sure it's great to beat Utd or Chelsea but lets face it, when it does happen it's a bit of a fluke. Part of me just wants these big money teams to start their own league. Then the rest of us can really compete. I'm not a genius, I have no idea how to solve this problem but I can predict that in 10 years time, the premier league will still be between 4 teams (Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City) and the best we will ever hope for is a lucky 5th. Back in the day everyone had a chance. I'm going to leave this now because I think its the carlsberg writing... |
The Burp
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... Rocky5 I think you've hit on something there - as well as blaming tiredness he also said that the formation doesn't matter as long as the players are good enough ---this all sounds very familiar |
Damian
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... DanWilson82 it wont be long - quite soon i predict, that you will be able to do something to help it change. you could now, by not going, not subscribing and not buying any of the tat - but a singe person doing it isn't going to impact anything i think, one day soon, a movement will start up where a group of smart people will come together and propose changes and these changes will for the best of football and these changes will be shown to everyone and then, when everyone has seen the changes that are proposed and everyone agrees they are great and acceptable and more than possible - the people that matter, the rule makers or money men if you want to call them that dont do anything, then you will have a part to play because after all that is done and nobody changes the rules (lets not forget that football is game governed by rules) - then statements need to be made and they are going to be needed on a scale never seen before but on such a scale that people all over the world are going to have to take notice and if then the rule makers/money men do not change the rules of the game - then someone will have to step in and people can step in Chiefy you will have your mobile site by the start of the season |
dingbat
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... DanWilson82-Personally I think you will get what you ask for. Sky Sports have been focusing more and more on European football. Five or so years time the big 4 or 5 will be playing in a proper European League. Obviously away supporters will stuggle to get to some games, but hey S.Sports will be there to cover the games. Pay as you watch anybody? Could be wrong just the way I see it! |
DAJ
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... Damian.. Totally agree with that. I can see it now, the likes of Manure and Chelsea throwing their toys out of the pram because getting their own way is on the agenda. Then when they realise that they are only beginning to look like greedy suck cows, off they will go with Scudamore and the other cretinous hangers-on, to form their own mini european super league. Sky will follow and we will all be better off for it. And you know why we will better off? Because after short period of time, back they they will come, trying to get back in, after finding out that Sky have pulled the plug, the cash is drying up, and theyve suddenly realised that the vast majoriity of Football supporters could not give a toss about them and their little get rich schemes, and have simply stopped watching. Then i hope somebody has the bravery to tell them to do one, Ron. |
Damian
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... DAJ the money in the game has to stay - for the next few seasons anyway and honestly, it is going nowhere and will only become more and more money in the game is also good. where it goes is bad and the lack of rules are bad. the new rules that are needed are based around what happens to the money and how much of it the clubs get and how much they can pay in salaries and where the rest goes and how it is used, at all levels of the game, to make our country the best footballing nation in the world the thing is, if we started new today, it will take 20 years, maybe 30, before we would win the world cup - it isn't going to happen over night but these rule changes have to happen i can pretty much guarantee you that if you put the owner of every football league club in a room tonight i could get the overwhelming majority (including the majority of the premier league) to agree to new rules that saw every club make a profit every season, that millions were pumped into grass roots football throughout the country and that in ten seasons time you wouldn't even be able to predict with any certainty even 1 team that would finish in the top 4 money is good but it should be used for the right reasons - it isn't at the moment and hasn't done for years and years |
DanWilson82
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... b30 villain - I read back and saw that, although right now £10 for anyone in the England 23 seems fair to be honest!! |
MoodyVilla
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... I say overhaul the entire England squad, bung the kids in and stick Pearce in charge and let him build a young squad that can have a punt at Euro qualification. I'm talking Johnson, Shawcross, Hart, Milner etc. All the U21 lads he knows so well. Let him have a punt, he knows club and international management very well and has enough clout to garner some respect from the youngsters. |
blake0121
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... lol heres a indirect comment for Fabnot Capello from Phillip Lahm: "We have good fitness coaches who have prepared us, not for three games, but for the whole tournament. We are ready for everything and we are very happy." How can Capello say that England played well when they conceded from a goal kick ffs Lampard & Gerrard can't play together in a 4-4-2 (maybe against the weaker teams like Slovenia), Defoe & Rooney is a terrible partnership 0 chemistry together didn't see any inter-play between them (even against Slovenia), Ashley Cole was the only defender we had that wasn't sleeping at the back and that ain't the same Barry that use to play for Villa I don't know what the Manure have done to him but that ain't the same Barry So for me these players here did ok: D James A Cole J Milner S Gerrard (50/50 with this one) |
proxopera
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... Anyone see the game tonite , that no.10 for Chile looks handy , can see him fitting in nicely with gabby or fonz . |
blake0121
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... MoodyVilla I agree with you, I think some of those starting eleven need to be drop to the bench or not even pick for the team In the German Squad they had 4 german players that played in last years Under-21 European Championship: M Ozil (SNM) J Boateng M Neuer M Marin We have got good young English players: Hart A Johnson A Young G Agbonlahor M Richards (Hopefully MON can produce some future England starting 11 out of these 3 players in years to come N Delfouneso, F Delph, C Clark) |
AussieLion
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... Rumour: Man City will spend 100m on Dzeko, David Silva and Toure while Milner is no longer a priority. Same article also said that Milner has told friends he willnot hand in a transfer request. Im quite happy with this as long as he signs a new contract, we could still buy 3 or 4 players from selling the deadwood on the bench and with a bit of money from Randy Lerner. |
Geoff
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... Well I've read reports saying that Milner is basically a done deal. Also, David Silva and Toure are wrapped up already. I doubt they will get Dzeko as he will require champions league. City are battling Spurs for Edinson Cavani. Also, we will only get about 12M from selling that slop on the bench if we are lucky. You can only buy one good player with that IF you know what you are doing. So, waive goodbye to Milner now because thats the only way they can raise the funds to strengthen the squad enough to perhaps finish higher than 6th. |
AussieLion
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... So many rumours its ahrd to know which ones to believe! But I think from the bench we could make: Sidwell 3m Davies 5m Young 3m Heskey 2m Reo-Coker 5m Shorey 3m Beye 2m Total: 23m 23m plus say 10-15m from Randy Lerner would give MON at least 30m, which if used wisely could get us 3 great players. I might regret but I'd say to keep Milner, even for 30m, if he wants to stay as I think he and Young will be the future of the club. |
Chiefy
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...Chiefy Loving them apples, my addiction can now be fulfilled even in meetings, I could even in game live blog, not from the touch line row RR, but still its close |
Chiefy
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... Have you seen the north stand make over ??!?!?!??! Damn Randy pants you dont do things by half its not just a cosmetic job its a complete overhaul good on your lerner bout time someone brought the rest of the ground into this century |
ak_27
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... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...769927.stm I really think we should be in for Bullard. He would be a really good upgrade on Sidwell at the very least. |
hotmonocle
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... hey fabio capello in disguise the season ended on 9th May 2010 and you cannot use the excuse that you are smooshing with Lineker &Hansen in SA - time for some positive action & some decent players bought in ASAP not Carlton Cole & to pay Burton Albion to physically remove Heskey from the premises and take him away to a place that befits his talents - also rip man city hand off for Milner |
Chiefy
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...What's the deal with the North Stand expasion? Timeframe etc? Modernisation and will be done by season start me thinks |
mjasghar
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... Bullard? A sick note with only his workrate going for him Did he okay after that game against us? No so he will also be unfit  |
gubbel
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... The Sun says about the Milner to ManCity transfer: A top City source revealed: "It's not signed and sealed yet but we are confident it's a done deal. ..."According to the article Milner will get £80,000-a- week  what ??? Thats nearly a € 100.000 every week. WTF? Sorry, but thats just ridiculous. I know its still the Sun and there are a lot of players earning more cash a week. but nevertheless £80,000 a week? for what? Milner is a good player but nothing really special. Maybe I'm wrong and he will lead ManCity to the title next season. who knows but i don't think so. I'm just glad that ManCity pays the requested transfer fee. But overall I'm a very very frustrated Villa supporter at the moment. I bet Villa doesn't even have a scout in south africa watching the World cup. greetings from a german Villa supporter. |
ak_27
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...Bullard? A sick note with only his workrate going for him He is far better then he is given credit for. Very creative and takes a great free kick. Im not saying he is our answer to our CM problems but as a sqaud player he would be a very useful player. Especially in Europe. |
DAJ
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... Bullard??????????????? Have you gone insane!!! Our need is not to replace our bench warmers, but to buy players whom can push our first team on to the bench!! Bullard for Sidwell is just keeping the status Quo, and hoping for another finish in 6th/7th place. Is this really what we want?????? |
DAJ
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... And another thing, Martin does not rate the Europa league, so Bully Bullard will only get to play two games at most! We need players to push us on, not keep us where we are, and if we dont do that. then i will make one prediction for you. Martin will be gone at the end of this coming season. |
ak_27
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...Bullard for Sidwell is just keeping the status Quo Sorry but a fit Bullard is miles better then that ginger ghost Sidwell. He is available on a year long loan so what exactly would the risk be? Sidwell will be gone (hopefully), Delph out for at least another 5 months, Milner probably also gone so where are all the CM's in the club? Even Petrov probably needs to be replaced if im honest as his legs look like they are going and he could do with being rested on occassion. |
DAJ
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... AK, if Petrov needs replacing then do it with someone whom is going to walk directly into the first team, pushing Stan on to the bench and replacing s**twell. Reo is sitting tight on his contract for the next 12 monthes, so all we need is for Martin to come down from whatever cloud hes sitting on and swallow his pride. AVFC come before any personal feelings, so if he does that, then we are not all that light. Milner WILL be a Man City player soon, and Ireland will come the other way. (Hopefully lol) The other factor in this is Randy. I really dont think he will sanction any more players coming in that will just sit on the Bench. I cant back this up, and its only my view, but i think he was pretty peeved with spending all that cash last season on players like Beye for them to just take a wage, that he has put his foot down. And whom can blame him? |
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...Maybe I'm wrong and he will lead ManCity to the title next season. who knows but i don't think so. I can actually see him sitting on the bench a lot next season if he goes to City. If they want to pay silly money for him i just hope we take it and bring Ireland in to replace him. |
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... some light humour... – David Blaine is reportedly furious after England crashed out of the World Cup – his record of doing absolutely nothing in a box for 42 days was broken by Wayne Rooney. |
Chiefy
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... Milner goes to Citeh it will be his tears not ours !! Champs League comes Milner will be flicked away like a booogie |
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