Written by Damian Tuesday, 10 November 2009 09:09
Stiliyan Petrov is interested in taking over penalty responsibilities, there is definitely no issues between Martin O'Neill and Nigel Reo-Coker as far as the manager is concerned and James Collins is out of the Wales squad.
That is your news. Now, instead of looking for something else, we are just going to concentrate on preferred players. Yesterday we looked at right back and it's pretty safe to say that there was a clear winner.
Luke Young got over 370 votes which equalled 86.9% of the vote. I think it is fair to say that he is the favourite at the club right now, but we still need to fill left back and centre back.
This is a little more difficult, as I don't have the BBC system where we can just chop and change players about, we have to do it with a poll. So, I'm doing one poll today for centre back and the player that gets the most votes will be omitted from the poll tomorrow. As for left back, that is easy, just pick one.
So, maybe by the end of the week, we will have the preferred starting eleven but lets hope that we do get some decent news about something or a juicy bit of speculation to get us talking. January isn't far away and surely, things must be happening.
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rocky5
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... how come you didn`t start with the keeper,that would be an interesting poll.anyway collins for me |
vivavilla
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... Collins for me all day long. Solid as a rock, makes fewer mistakes than Dunne. Also Damian, the Heskey thing - getting a bit old now  |
rocky5
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... didn`t notice the first question  ,warnock for me.keep the heskey thing rollin damian nothing wrong with a bit of humour now and again |
avfcbob
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... Collins understanding with Dunne (that is boardering on telepathic levels)makes it a no brainer If MON can achieve the same in the middle of the park and up front then world domination is ours UTV |
Jeddy
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... Warnock as left back, no shadow of a doubt. However Dunney gets my vote as first defender on the team sheet. Last season we had good defenders in the back line but as soon as we lost the commanding voice and leadership (laursen) it all went horribly wrong. RD organises the defence really well whilst my second choice would be collins, I think Cuellar and Davies could comfortably look good playing alongside RD. Play Davies and Collins, or some other combination and we could be in trouble. Great to have Luke Young back btw, he's got a really sweet delivery going forward and I think he'll work really well with Milner this season. Any news on DJ Stewie? |
jonnycarew
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... Centre half pairing depends on who we are facing, if we are going to sit deep then collins & dunne, but if its a game we are controlling and are high up the pitch and they have a nippy striker then cuellar should play as he is a bit quicker. As good as dunne & collins have been, Hines of west ham with his pace killed them |
Chiefy
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... Shorey being chase by Forest for 3 million to help hime escape his "villa hell" i love it when players arent good enough yet the media makes out its the club !!! it should read "forest chasing Shorey to help him into a team where he might possiblely be good enough to get a game" EMULE for left back, AT HOME !!!! |
Jeddy
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... To be fair to Shorey I thought he had a pretty decent pre-season, in the peace cup especially. However as soon as Warnock signed on the dotted line he must have known his days were numbered, he should of went to Pompey when he had the chance, now it looks like he'll be joining the hare in the championship. Best of luck to him I say, but at the moment I'd rather see one of our youth players keeping the bench warm. |
eoin1981
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... I think Collins has turned out to be a great buy, especially considering the negativity which followed his signing, myself included, but it was against the backdrop of us being linked with 'big names' at the time. Having said that - Dunne is an even better signing and he doesn't seem to get the credit. The guy is a born leader and roars instructions to the back four. I dont think his vocalness (is that even a word) and leadership can be emphasised enough and if he gets injured or suspended - people will see the difference. A bit like Laursen did for Davies - he holds the hands of the other guys in the back four - but not in a gay way! As someone who continually rants about MoN - in fairness he signed Collins, Dunne and Warnock for about 32m less than Toure, Lescott and Bridge - which is daylight robbery. |
Chiefy
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... Another rumour is Delf is going to Walsall cant see it myself but thats what i have heard, also that Blueknoheads want Defour !!!!! hahahahah i think i am going to post Grandtops Financial results on their blog for them to look at before they get to carried away  |
Jeddy
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... Just out of interest, I was keeping one eye on the Liverpool vs Clowns game last night. I found myself in a strange position where I really wanted the Clowns to win! The thing is, even with their new investors I still can't take them seriously. I just find them really, really funny. I don't see them as a threat at all. However I have real hatred for Liverpool, I hate the FSW and I really want to see him getting sacked. I think it's all stemmed from the Barry transfer saga. Not only that, but should they lose benitez it would surely mean there's a possible opening in the top 4? Despite being born in Brum I now live in Devon (surrounded by Man U and Liverpool fans) and was just curious to know if any other villa fans think along similar lines? Or whether or not it's just me! |
James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini
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... Shouldn't we have choosen the formation first? Also, has anyone any news on Bouma? He was training with the first team and playing for the reserves and now it's all gone quiet?? Please don't tell me he's had further problems? |
WinsforVilla
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... It's a bit of a no-brainer as to who will be chosen for the back 4! The Shorey story is a fine invention, some 'Journalist' must be very proud of that one. Why would we want to sell a fine covering left back when it has taken so long to find the right man for first choice. Totally agree that the goal keeping position should not be excluded from the polls. |
Astom Villa
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... I was rooting for the scum last night, which I justified with (much like you Jeddy) my intense hatred for Liverpool, combined with their league position. No surprise they managed to cheat their way back in to the game again. |
Chiefy
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... Jeddy -- i wanted the clowns to him for no other reason than it creates more of an opening for top 4, in all honesty i would rather pin my eye lids to my head with EMULE'S spit than support either of them really Blues think they are something they aint their new investors are skint and have a company that has been running in a loss for years, and not just a small lose over 100million, Liverpool are all theiving horrible nasty accent title pretenders who live on their past x titles, x champions league BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH |
Damian
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... it might be fairly obvious who the back four are going to be .. but for me to assume that, it would be easy for someone to just say different. if we have a vote, it is done formation is a good idea - but we have done that before and have the results |
neil57
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... Hello Liverpool quandary, Reina, no defenders, Gerrard,Benayoun and Torres. Villa to Pool, all defenders, Milner,Gabby and Carew. Some draws/equals.7 4 to us, we have a much better more settled team. Love the poll. The idiots who vote for Emule ????? Goalie would be very close. Luke and Warnock by a mile. Dunne best CB for organisational skills and experience. Rotate them anyway, even Clark, a better prospect than Cahill. BTW, Jussi will keep Bolton up  Look forward to poll rest of week. do right mid, centre and left separately. 2 strikers. Gabby and Carew to romp it. Remember last season we had Davies, Barry, 2 Youngs and Gab in England squad? We should have: Luke, Warnock, Milner,Ash, Downing and Gabby going to SA. Curtis will leave, imo 5th choice CB. Shorey and Heskey will leave too. Maybe 12million total with roll on fee for Curtis. Might be interesting to see Dunne and Curtis together, writing as I think Good to see JPA back. Jerry must be working on a big one Like Nan and Chris, thought Nan hed lost it with the Emule bits Keep it up, UTV |
The Burp
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... Jeddy - I almost did...seriously I was close but ultimately couldn't wish it. I never had a problem with Liverpool until I moved to Ireland but there's so so many glory hunting Liverpool and Manu fans here that it's unbelievable. I absoutely detest Liverpool now and at 2-1 to Birmingham I was seriously having to question myself but the 29 years of being born and bred in living in Birmingham won out as my hatred of the Blues is stronger. |
Gibbo
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... I live in kent and have been a villa fan for 30 years, people often ask me why do you support a team that far away....then they proceed to tell me they support Man U or Liverpool....which just goes to show how daft their fans are. |
WinsforVilla
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... Jeddy; Me too! Liverpool would be better entering the olympics than a serious football competition with the number of divers in their team. And I seriously hate moaning managers like the FSW, Sir Chewalot, Harry Caught Redhanded, and the French Whinger. |
frosty
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... Morning all, LB - Warnock CB - Dunne Collins RB - Young If it ain't broke don't try and fix it imo, although I find it really hard not to write Cuellar in that list. Davis & Bouma - I'm afraid you can't control evolution, I can imagine Davis leaving in the next year or two & Bouma retiring. |
StickyAV
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... I HATE LIVERPOOL. If the got ris of the FSW it would go a long way to making that hatred dissapear. I never had a problem with them before he came along. He's a c*ck. We need a draw between liverpool and City at anfield. A win against burnley. Then a win at spurs and we will be top 4... |
matt26may1982
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... jeddy said I found myself in a strange position where I really wanted the Clowns to win! Nothing strange about that mate so did i. They defended like nothing ive seen for years it was about 75-25 possession second half if not more! Did anyone see the penalty! On par with the worst dive ive ever seen absolute disgrace, just like that t**t bennett for us last week another old c@@t ref who needs an eye test. Ngog is a cheating bastard and needs to be punished. |
neil57
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... I live in N Ireland, Dad was a brummie Villa fan. I never hated Bham like you guys and like top see them do well. Good to have 2 in top league. They never have been a threat.I do know where you are coming from. More Villa fans here now due to MON factor and our success. George Best was a big factor in NI like for Man U. My Dad said they were always liked outside Manchester. City is better supported by mancunians. I went to Old Trafford and was amazed at Irish and cockney accents to the fore Great to see so much agreement. UTV |
mickey86
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... davies is the future of our defence, we should keep him. be interesting to see what formation you go with with the vote damian and dont forget a vote for the goalkeeper. maybe have a vote for a penalty taker aswell. |
Ferdinand the imposter
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... Jeddy, I was of the same mind and wanted the Blues to win last night. But what spoilt this game for me and has been going on quite a lot this season is cheating by some players. Why have we got to this mentality of win at all costs? Is it the chairman demanding win, win, win, or the manager or just some players? It spoils the game, and devalues the win. Yes it’s nice to win but also teams, chairman and managers need to be big enough to lose graciously, accept defeat and move on. It makes one wonder what ever happened to sportsmanship - or am I old fashioned? |
Chiefy
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... Does anyone else think that the standard of reffering this year is terrible, last year you had the one or two mistakes each week this year it is nearly every game that ref is stuffing it up, and the worst thing is a ref could cost you a cup, champions league, title and nothing gets done. Not sure davies is the future the future is collins and cuellar, and after clark and cuellar/collins, davies has a bad attitude considers himself to be far better than what he is, the inflated price we paid didnt help. Not sure Davies is the future we have better players in that position and promising players coming through so not sure i would take the risk with him being a mouthy "£"( like he tends to do |
matt26may1982
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... Have some refs been told this season that a foul equals a yellow card! Did anyone see the dive last night? Am i the only one who thinks it was that bad! |
Christian1983
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... Damian, like some others have said, you'll need to do a poll for formation before you get to midfielder selection because you won't know if it's a 4 or 5 man midfield. |
Christian1983
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... Chiefy- I know what you mean! I'm looking forward to Downing getting in the team. I'd like him wide left. He's a natural winger and will get the ball in first time- give Big John or Gabby a bit more chance to peel off the defenders (the opposite of Ashley's constant feigning of the cross). If the vote does go for 4-5-1, it's going to be interesting to see who get's dropped, Gabby or Carew??!!! I'd have said Carew to be on the bench, but after Saturday that'd be v,v harsh! |
ak_27
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...I moved to Ireland but there's so so many glory hunting Liverpool and Manu fans here that it's unbelievable Tell me about it. My hatred of Liverpool has actually lessened over the years(most of my school mates were pool fans back when Fowler would kill us every single time which really fueled it before). For me Man Utd = Blues. They are the team i really hate and we haven't beat them in 25 league attempts now which really really kills me. I'll never forget the FA cup game when we went 2 nil up with around 15mins to play. Worst night ever i think for me being a villa fan. Still when we do manage to beat them there are an awful lot of people who will be getting a very long over due phone call from me. |
Christian1983
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... Well I'm originally from Norwich (my family are all Brummies) and Norwich's nearest Premiership team is Arsenal/Spurs! So when I pop home, everyone's a dirty Man United fan. Of course, they've never been anywhere near Manchester, or even the M6 for that matter, but they act like they're the heart n soul of the club and claim to go 'a few times a season'. Makes my blood boil! |
Badger
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... Quick question. Having just seen that Spuds have made a £33.4 mill profit (  ), can anyone tell me the last time we made a profit? |
frosty
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... Chiefy - agree about the refs although I think Fergie makes it worse for them. There are sometimes little things like the (Tim) Cahill challenge though that most of us miss and commentators never point out. It should of been a red but the ref wasn't sure and rightly gave nothing. I couldn't believe it at the time, it took the old man to point out that if the ref doesn't book him at all he can get suspended after the game but give him a yellow during the game and he walks away free. What do you think to this concept? If you get sent off you should be suspended in the next meeting against that team you were sent off against rather than the next game(s)? Otherwise what does the opposite team benefit apart from maybe 10 mins of playing 10 men. |
crazyhobo
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... on a side note, we are lounging around in mid-table in the 92 league can wwe fix this please!!! http://www.the92.co.uk/#/fans_league |
ak_27
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... Badger i think they make their money from property development as well as football revenue. |
villabiker
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... i want to see the FSW stay. the longer he cocks up pool the better because lets face it hes never going to get it right LONG MAY HE REIGN |
astonguerrilla
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... Jeddy, I live down in Cornwall and I understand your situation completely. I too am mainly surrounded by soft, glory-hunting, b@llock-talking, guff-breathing, simple-minded shirley's who all support top 4 clubs. The great thing about them is that as soon as you question their credentials as a true supporter of Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, or Arsenal, they start to throw their toys out of their prams and then invent distant relatives that supposedly live next door to old trafford, anfield, stamford bridge, and highbury/the emirates. I for one love the deluded plebs because they always remind me of how proud I am to be Villa. As for the game last night, I honestly didn't know who to hate more. An unexpected outbreak of Norovirus on and off the pitch would have suited me. |
matt26may1982
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... crazyhobo posted ... on a side note, we are lounging around in mid-table in the 92 league can wwe fix this please!!! http://www.the92.co.uk/#/fans_league. Just had a look and straight away it seems to be a load of tosh! EVERTON are 3rd!!! They have the quietest most boring fans in the league, how do they score points? Not distracting players whilst a game is on!!! |
Rios.Jockstrap
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... Warnock ticks all the boxes for me, and its frightening to think that on his own admission he has yet to find his form! Collins gets the nod aswell because i think hes a better player than Richard Dunne and Carlos. Be pretty interesting when Curtis gets fit! Has the fat Waitor got the boot yet?  |
holteend paul
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... its brilliant news that most people think davies will leave when he is fit because you are obviously saying he will be fourth choice CB, and if people think he is going to leave then he must be rated, which is even better as it now shows that we even rate the fourth choice CB which shows how much we are moving in the right direction. |
Chiefy
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... sorry for me Davies has a bad attitude, was over priced, is not that good not saying lets push him out but just saying if starts any of his give me this that or the other or i wont sign blah blah blah i reckon we should just put him in the taxi with EMULE and Shorey and wish them well |
Ramonicus
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... Don't comment much, bit over the negativity here lately but on the poll I will say this: I personally believe that Dunne and Collins have been solid. Their partnership this season has been sensational and their understanding is up there with the best centre pairings in the league. BUT those who say Dunne is the Laursen of this team and that we will crumble without him don't give Cuellar and Davies enough credit. Bar our first game, these two were solid together, and began to form the understanding I thought was always possible. I'd personally have Cuellar over Collins and I think Davies is a future England captain. The loss of Laursen coincided with a change in tactics to the team will saw the team struggle. Had MON stuck to the system that had been us go on a strong unbeaten run, or changed the system when Laursen was in team, I don't think we would have collapsed. Too much pressure was put on Cuellar and Davies to adapt to a tactical change which left them with no midfield cover. Anyway, nice to know we have genuine competition for places. Across the back four we can name multiple line-ups, all as strong as each other. UTV - Be a little more positive Damian, we are 5th and aren't even playing as good as we know this team can. Don't be so quick to spit the dummy. Have a bit faith in the system and the chairman! |
frosty
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... Anyone with 5 mins spare really should watch this, probably the hardest footballer ever and she's a woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWv-QtG86A |
Chiefy
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... i have just watched the liverpoo pen, you can see why the ref gave it because of the angle he wasat but the question i have is why didnt the lineo flag because he should have been on the line incase the ball went out of play show he would have seen it. Result i wanted though so dont really care |
ak_27
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... He can't pass, he isn't agresive, he isn't a good reader of games. What exactly is he good at except for opening his big trap at every given moment? He is lucky to be at a club like Villa as he is way out of his depth as a player. Future English captain? No chance. Future Bolton player maybe. He isn't even good enough for one English cap. Sorry but Davies is a player who i really think is total shite. Put it like this i saw very little between Zat Knight and Davies. |
Chiefy
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... she is a right cow aint she !!! but the ref just let it carry on what made me laugh was a player got tackled fell over and she booted the ball point blank into her head !!!! |
Chiefy
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... AK_27 -- I agree with you totally mate, i cant stand the guy his attitude winds me up and how he thinks he is great, Zat Knight in disguise more like |
ak_27
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... Chiefy i can see Bolton selling Cahill and replaceing him with Davies. Add J Loydd in as the left back and that is one quality back line isn't? |
Chiefy
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... Ak_47 -- Megson will try and convert Knight to a right back and put Davies and Cahill in the middle with J Loyyd on the left and McCan just in front of them "protecting them" |
holteend paul
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... i think every week on here there seems to be a witch hunt on one player, now it seems to be davies for what ever reason, contract talks which is every players agent doing his best or the fact he spoke about the king affair but i cant remember him speaking out about anything else besides running himself down after his debut. |
Chiefy
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... Holteend - not a witch hunt on my part i hunt like i said further up i dont want to force him out i just wouldnt be upset if he left thats all the more we have the better cover wise i dont wat any one to leave to be honest not even EMULE at least not till we have a replacement. |
ak_27
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... Paul there are 2 players who i said before the summer transfer window opened that i honestly believed were not good enough for this club. Sidwell was one and Davies was the other. Just be happy that Davies got injured when he did as i don't think MON would have signed both Dunne and Collins had he not got injured. The main reason we are where we are today in the league is down to our defense and the major factor in that is that we no longer have calamity Davies in there. I would put Davies down as the worst defender villa have ever signed if you take the transfer fee into concideration. |
holteend paul
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... to be fair chiefy having a player of davies calibre as fourth choice CB is absalutly brilliant and shows how we are turning the corner. a question for you tho who do you put in davies bracket?? still young and can only get better. |
ak_27
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... Paul I would put Ciaran Clarke in that bracket and would perfer to have him as our no 4 CB so that he gets the oppertunity to develop into the quality player he could be. I'll never forget watching us play Porto in the peace cup and for first 20mins with Davies and Cullar we were all over the place. The moment Clarke came on for Davies the whole back line settled immediately(esp Cullar) and we never looked like conceeding after that. That for me at least showed he has great potential and also just consolidated my views on Davies. He is an avrage CB at best and we paid way over the odds for his services. |
holteend paul
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... ak_27... i think you have somthing against davies personally because if you think he is the worst signing then there is nothin anyone will say will change your mind. the lad is 24 and after the wigan game he played very well against liverpool. and how bloody dare you say dunne and collins werent lined up for 2 months previous by our leader the great o'neill. people might think they were last minute buys.. |
holteend paul
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... the trouble with bringing a 19 CB in too early is the fact you can ruin his career before it starts as i think CB is the hardest behind GK to play in the premiership, one slip and you are at fault of a goal and then confidence drops and before you know it a quality player becomes a joke for seasons to come. |
ak_27
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... Paul i think we have been spoilt with great centre backs at this club down through the years. Even when we had a poor side it was normally a good defense that kept us safe. Teale, McGrath, Sothgate, Ugo Ehigo(can't spell his name), Alpay, Mellburg and Laursen just to name a few and when i look at Davies i just see nothing special at all. And for me the way he is constantly giving interviews without ever doing anything to talk about on the pitch just makes it worse. I know people say when we lost Laursen this and that the fact were we poor enough (just look at our goals conceeded numbers for last 2 seasons) even with Laursen playing back there and i think Davies was a major contributor to that. He is just a very good example of why the policy of buying British often just gives you a very over priced under skilled player. |
holteend paul
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... i will agree with you on the CB position as i also remember evans mcnaught and nicholl, but i still think he has a future at villa and WILL prove you wrong i hope. |
ak_27
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... I take your point on board about Clarke but i don't want to have a £8/9m pound CB as a 4th CB. I doubt he would be ok with that anyway and come next summer i think MON should be looking to recoup what he can for Davies. |
matt26may1982
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... frosty, Pulling hair and slapping means ur a hard footballer does it? If you look closely she is having her shorts wrenched up by the other player before she pulls her hair. Simple dont do it and you wont get your hair pulled. And it wasnt that bad, lying and crying on the floor for ages after just like a male foreign player lol. |
Chiefy
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... holteend - i put cahill in the davies bracket i would prefer cahill to davies, I guess my opinion of him is as much to do with is atitude more than anything else, i wouldnt mind if he stayed but then i wouldnt be upset if he left, i dont think he is a bad footballer but nor to i think he is great, I just have a dislike for him similar to lee hendrie dislike so i may be being unfair and on that basis i perhaps shouldnt remark on him. I just dont think he has shown himself to be a great, and bare in mind a great is not just football but off field as well, when he throws his toys out because of a contract clause that he signed. |
holteend paul
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... chiefy.. the contract thing was his agent doing what agents do i heard nothing whatsoever comming from davies on that matter. all agents are the same they do what they do for their players, its called football. |
astonguerrilla
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... All this Davies bashing is pretty harsh!!!! When it comes to central defensive partnerships you need one vocal and commanding defender (Laursen, Dunne, Terry, Ferdinand etc), and the other needs to be an obedient and industrious drone-like defender (Collins, Cueller, Carvalho, O'Shea). Davies definitely falls into the later catagory. He's a real talent under the stewardship of a commanding CB, that's what he's good at. Talk of him being a future Villa and England CB captain is way off the mark, as I don't think he's that kind of player. If you put two commanding CB's together it won't work (Ferdinand and Terry for example), and if you put two industrious drones together that also doesn't work (Cueller and Davies for example). Davies most certainly does have a bright future at Villa, but only when played next to Dunne. You only have to look at how great he played next to Laursen! |
frosty
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... matt26may1982 - lol true. I still wouldn't want her in my bed though, imagine if you tried to sneak in late from the pub she could be capable of anything. On the Davies debate.. well he's not a straight forward player is he. I always knew that Zat Knight was never going to turn in a motm performance, mark Vidic out of the game or score a blinder all of which Davies IS capable of. The problem is he's also capable of letting Rob Earnshaw breeze past him, missing sitters when it counts and being the worst player on the pitch, I just don't think he is consistent enough for a place in our new back line. |
Chiefy
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... hotleend -- I understand that, but you havent seen many of our other players agents do that have you ? and perhaps a player who could of Young he or his agent didint, someone tells them to do it its not just done by the agents because it could make the relationship between player and club fragile the agent will only do it when instructed, if an agent did do it off his own back and the result was the player being reduced to the reserves, bench or similar could you imagine the law suit the agent would get ?? as no one told him to do it so it would be his fault. |
matt26may1982
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... frosty, I dont know about that she would be welcome between my sheets, id even make her wear a Villa shirt! |
holteend paul
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... looking at other CB's who we wanted..hangaarland is having a dodgy season so far as for turner it seems hull received between 2.5 and 3.5 for him which is a bargain why didnt we go for him because if mon had asked he would have been told the asking price which everyone thought was around the 8-10 million bracket. |
frosty
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... I doubt he will go to Forest but if it's true theres 3m in the bank for Jan. http://www.clubcall.com/aston-...73973.html |
brum in the south
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... i live near portsmouth having lived in brum for 17 years. Down here the fans are crap! Not many following pompey anymore! |
richie
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... i have to say that warnock and dunne are exceptional signings. showing my ignorance as a yank, i didn't know much about warnock until he signed for villa, but i'd been following dunne at cit-eh for years. (a bunch of friends are city friends, and as a result i've seen more city matches than i can remember). dunne has always impressed me. full of class, incredibly hard worker, great at what he brings to the game. i was glad when moneychester city signed kolo toure and lescott, 'cause i figured dunne was too good not to have regular first team football. glad we brought him on board. after seeing what warnock can do, i'm surprised i didn't know about him sooner. pure class, exceptionally hard worker, and a versatile player who's great with a cross and good moving forward. MON had a good eye to bring on both of 'em, i really hope the partnership in the back continues to flourish. |
tubbydunne
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... I think Collins is our best CB and you could play who you want beside him. No need to hold that mans hand. Warnock at LB no question. On referees personally I think they are getting a raw deal from the media and not getting backing from anyone. The game is played at lightning pace now, players are putting as much effort into conning them as they do in trying to beat the opposition. And there are cameras everywhere that give slow motion replays which viewers watch three or four times in the comfort of their living rooms and say oh ya the ref. got that wrong. And then you have Andy Gray a great player but a bloody awful pundit who slates refs every chance he gets. When the man is asked for his opinions he nearly goes into spasms in an effort to sit on the fence so as not to upset the Sky Four managers and their high profile players. So he just relys on the easy target of slate the ref which is poor and lazy punditry. I believe any player who remonstrates with a ref or his officals should get an automatic red. It would cut out those awful scenes of players running after the ref(especially Man u)and would set a better example for kids. Plus Rooney would be permanently suspended. |
VILLA DEL
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... Dunne and Collins, just shade it for me, but its a long season and with injuries and supensions we have very capable deputy in Cuellar. Its just a shame he did not get a full season under his belt last season would have been good to see how him and Laursen would have gelled. |
HolteEndersInDubai
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... Why haven't you asked us for GK choice, i think it would be closer than you think!! |
HolteEndersInDubai
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... Oh, Young-Collins-Dunne-Warnock is easily our strongest back 4 both defensively and going forward.....what signings! Striker is obvious - Carew-Gabby Midfield will be interesting....? |
VillaFanMike!
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... Its got to be James Collins for me, i personally think hell be our captain one day and a damn fine one he'll be at that, Also Warnock, as Tom Ross said the other day he looks every inch a great full back! I cant wait to see Downing at Villa Park ive always bin a big fan of his and hopes he and a creative midfielder (January) can get us 4th place! UTV! |
matt26may1982
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... Astonguerilla, Neil57 does not have to argue its a fact! Davis is shite, whenever he and knight were together you just waited for the all to frequent mistakes to happen. Funny how every one is now so confident and always saying the word "solid" when talking about our new pairing. |
johnnyuk
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... Van der Vaart available in Jan? Could be our playmaker midfield... I've always rated him, and he doesn't want to go back to Ajax yet. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_5686298,00.html |
Guner
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... I voted Heskey for both. He's an England player. He can play as a left back, and centre back at the same time. |
Steveo
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... davies crap you must have a short memory because he has played well for us hence him being picked by capello for previous england squads |
Nanwasafan
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... Bit of a shocker this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8353733.stm |
andy5759
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...Steveo said: Ha ha ha, I hope Damian doesn't read that. 5-3-2 for me! Ha ha ha - love it! |
andy5759
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... Tragic. My thoughts are with the widow and the rest of his family. I hope that the extended "football family" will gather round to support them. |
andy5759
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... Health Warning!!! Do NOT mention 5-3-2 too often as it can cause Damian. Damian is a disease of formations, prone to attack any formation which cannot be disguised as 4-5-1. There is no known cure for Damian. |
SidCowanslovechild
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... AK - Alpay, are you sure. After a very brief (and I mean brief) ok period he was truely terrible for us, Made Davies look like McGrath Could never want the scum to win, maybe last game of the season when they are already down and they are playing our only contender for the Premier League title and even then I'd stuggle, it's simply not natural |
r0bb0
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... Holte enders in dubai said: Oh, Young-Collins-Dunne-Warnock is easily our strongest back 4 both defensively and going forward.....what signings!That strike partnership may be obvious to you holte ender but you may not get the chance to vote for it. Damian has selected the formation we'll vote on and I would imagine it will be 451. You'll have to either put Gabby on the right wing or put Carew in central midfield if you want them both in the same side. |
holteend paul
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... sid... alpay was a very good defender it was a pity he got voted in the world cup xi team which turned his head then the beckham thing got him sacked, but before all that he was class in my opinion. |
SidCowanslovechild
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... holteendpaul, I believe that to be true however for us he was good for one season and then turned shit, over weight, unfit and always talking about going to "bigger clubs". Very disappointing |
SidCowanslovechild
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... Oh and I forgot, dirty as anything which I don't mind when he's playing for us but if he palyed now would be sent off every game, if he could catch anyone to kick |
mon 4-5-1
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...That strike partnership may be obvious to you holte ender but you may not get the chance to vote for it. Damian has selected the formation we'll vote on and I would imagine it will be 451. You'll have to either put Gabby on the right wing or put Carew in central midfield if you want them both in the same side. So when Man City play Bellamy, Tevez, Adebuyor they play 4-3-3 erm no they play 4-4-2 Bellamy on the left. So playing with 2 strikers you can simply play 4-5-1. Another example Liverpool play both Kuyt and Torres yet they always play 4-5-1 Kuyt on the right and they are both strikers. United with Ronney who does not play up front but plays off the striker 4-4-1-1... |
Badger
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...Alpay, are you sure Super defender that had the lot, imo. But yes, it went to his head and he turned out to be a penis  |
holteend paul
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... my biggest frustration while supporting villa is the shit form of collymore and sasa curcic as i did like alpay because it was graham tayler who went to the papers with all the shit. |
DanWilson82
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...my biggest frustration while supporting villa is the shit form of collymore and sasa curcic as i did like alpay because it was graham tayler who went to the papers with all the shit. I was also very dissapointed with Curcic, he had a big rep when he arrived and never delivered. Same could be said for Alan Thompson. Trouble with these players is that when they are playing alongside average team mates they shine, but when they line up with class they suddenly don't look quite so good. Shorey and Sidwell also come to mind at this point although I'd love Sidwell to come good. I think Shoreys chance was gone the second Warnock signed up. |
Badger
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...Same could be said for Alan Thompson Really? Total dogshit mate, of the highest order, from what I remember. Having looked at Wiki, he averaged 1 in 5 at Bolton, before he came to Villa. Fair play though, Curcic, did come with a rep. Another bag of shite |
DanWilson82
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... Whoa there, good day to you too badger!... Thompson was top drawer at Bolton as far I remember and not really down to the goals, he was just a real tallent. Was always there abouts for us but never ammounted to anything great. Seem to remember him becoming a hit again at Celtic once the players around him dropped in quality though. |
Nanwasafan
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... Collymore at Villa and the girl who sat opposite me in Biology are the only real disappointments in my life so far. I thought Stan was going to change the world. He had it all. Pace, skill, strength, finishing. On the other hand Biology girl had super tits. |
Chiefy
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... NAN - I too thought Collymore was going to change everything, he turned out to be a bit of a K"*b though like Davies is and Lee Hendire was. Alpay I liked him he was tough but he turned out to be a K£$b as well, thinking about it we have signed some K"*bs and some rubbish in the past who is everyones worst signing ? mine is Balaban hahahaha he came with a little bit of a rep what ever happened to him dont think i seen him play ! |
Chiefy
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... good news, sorry Emile but it is, EMULES back problem (didint know he had one) has flared up again. If he his out for any length of time dont think we will see him grace our beloved Villa Park with his silky skills and falling over techniques we have come to love |
ak_27
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... Im trying to figure out what word 'K"*b' really is. Im sitting here in the office going through every swear word i can think of. Chiefy what are the missing letters? |
ak_27
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... My head is not working today. How could i not have seen that. But what happens if you want to say something about a door knob? |
Chiefy
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... ak_27 - now if you want to talk about door K"*b's then use the correct spelling of nob !!! i got that wrong in the first place oh my god and there is still 2 days till the weekend its a long week |
Jeddy
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... For those who asked, I live in Exmouth a small town south of Exeter (Devon). Always nice to know there is plenty of Villa in the south west! Anyone fancy starting some kind of poll to get O'Dreary to take over from the FSW???? That would make my year! Can you imagine him trying to manage Torres! Man that's priceless! |
Villa_Chris
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...Ok why didn't that knob get the **? Did you both just do it yourselves? Im confuzzled! |
ak_27
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... Ok to quickly move away from discussing knobs i was just thinking if Collymore(speaking of knobs) and Savo had found the form that they were capable of while they were at Villa that strike force trio along with Yorke could really have been something to behold. Could have been world class. Its a pity. Cost Brian Little his job. |
Chiefy
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... now to clear this up its k"£b and NOB the first is a door handle which i used as the reference to a mans genitals, the second is the reference to a mans genitals which i didnt use but should have. I blanked the wrong one out and used the wrong one sorry its only wednesday |
Chiefy
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... O'Leary as blues manager now that would make laugh so much i think i would wee a little |
Pancho Villan
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...johnnyuk said: Yes please - and let's get Klaas Jan Huntelaar while we're at it. A natural goal scorer with something to prove. |
Chiefy
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... Oh know its back Van Da Vaart will not come to us, neither for that matter will Huntelaar one day maybe but now NO, why ? well let me explain firstly. they would both want to break our wage structure completely blow it out of the water which is not good for the club or the rest of the players. secondly we are not at that level yet, huntelarr madrid, milan, villa ??? cant see it myself, Man Utd have had an intrest and i dare say so will chelsea, arsenal, liverpool and man city when the time comes we dont stand a chance and the same for Van Da Vaart. now i am not saying we shouldnt be trying to get them i am just saying there sometimes is no point trying because if we got linked to them fans get their hopes up and the next thing you know we have been gazumped. We are not at that place yet but we will be soon |
ak_27
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... To be honest i don't think Huntelar is what we need or is actually worth the money. He is a finisher and thats it. We really do not create enough chances for a player like that to be sucessful. At this stage we need a Tuncay type of stirker who can drop back into midfield like rooney does and start helping to create chances. We need a striker who is gifted on the ball and Huntelar is not that type of player. He has also now failed at 2 clubs very quickly and it is beginning to look like you cannot trust strikers who have scored lots of goals in the Dutch leagues anymore as look what also happened to that Alves that Boro bought for huge money. I saw on SSN that Wigan are after Tamudo from Espanyol in Jan as he has fallen out with management. He would be a good buy (would be cheap too) as he is quality on the ball and is exactly what we lack in this squad right now. He would be my Jan signing to replace Heskey. Van Dar Vaart would be a great signing but i doubt he would come. We should maybe make an attempt to loan him for the 2nd halve of the season so that way he wouldn't have to commit to moving to Birmingham without first living there for a while and that would also ensure first team football for him in the run up to the world cup. But that would only happen if no other top European club come in for him which i doubt will happen. I can see Utd or Arsenal being interested. |
holteend paul
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... huntelaar needs to come to a team like villa as he will turn out to be a journey man not making it at the top clubs madrid and millan in the space of a year and not getting on the pitch for either is not going to be good for any cv. |
ak_27
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... Paul i think with Gabby playing up front we already have enough strikers who are limited on the floor. I really don't think we could carry another one just yet. From watching Huntelar over the last season he looks very average with the ball at his feet. He is a very good finisher but right now we do not create that many chances so i think buying him would only compound that inability to create as i think that the lack of technically gifted and intelligent strikers is a factor as to why we are not creating enough. I do think we could get Huntelar as i can't see too many other big clubs being too interested now. |
tommy_villa
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... I think that Van der Vaart (and any other big name player who is currently unsettled) will find themselves at either Man City or Chelsea in January. Man City are desperate for glory and Chelsea have only had their ban postponed. Chelsea will try and get a bunch of players in over january because they won't be able to buy anyone for the next two windows. Also, Roma have put everybody apart from De Rossi and Totti up for sale. If we were lucky, and very quiet, we might be able to make a star signing from there. |
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