Written by Damian Tuesday, 27 July 2010 10:59
You can order the new kit from tomorrow and it will be delivered just in time for Christmas. I'm not joking - you are going to have to wait and I don't have the dates in front of me but it is the end of September. Want my advice - wait until Christmas when they reduce the price.
I know some are going to get a little annoyed with the release date of the kit but it really isn't anything to lose any sleep over although seeing as the shirt will not be available for the full season - I'd be a little hesitant in paying the full price.
Yes, it is a bit Sunday League, but come on, are you really, deep down surprised that it happened?
We wanted a relationship with a big kit manufacturer and we have it but we also have to understand that there are many other teams ahead of us in this relationship and to top it all off, we only announced our sponsor a few weeks ago.
Martin Laursen on Gabby
He has developed. The good thing about him is he can play that lone role up front. He is strong enough. He can play up there by himself and Villa can have offensive players behind him. He doesn't have to have that partner up there with him now because he is so strong physically.
I'm not going to start banging this drum again - hopefully now that a former player is talking about playing Gabby up front by himself, Martin O'Neill might listen. After all, we had our best run under O'Neill when he did play Gabby up front by himself.
A variation of 4-5-1 is the future. The retro football we get served up by O'Neill playing 4-4-2 isn't going to move the club forward.
We will find out soon enough but so far things are looking up - Webcam is getting played in that man in the hole role and it is also nice to see Albrighton get a few games - this really does have to be his season.
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Chiefy
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... damo - the new kit is nothing to lose sleep about, but does it not concern you that a club of our size can't manage to get the new season kit on sale for the coming season until after the season has started ? Bad management which ever way you look at it |
KrisAVFC
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...The Sun: Aston Villa have told Manchester City to meet their £30million asking price for James Milner - or he will stay put. Nice MON's found some Balls  |
david g
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... Chiefy; Agree completely with your comments re the timing of the new kit release. In the big scheme of things, it's probably not worth getting worked up about. However along with the Milner situation and the seeming problems with transfer funds and the wages bill, it's another thing which makes the club look a bit lacklustre at the moment, imo. Do you know if any other EPL clubs are in the same position new kit wise? |
stig
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... If this is NIKE's attitude, we should eff them off for Addidas or a retro manufacturer like Le'coq Sportif. Nike are more interested in United, recycling bottles, and Le Arse than us, I say leave them to it. My carbon footprint is in touch Nike, so pull your finger out FFS!!!!! |
Steve-o83
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... Whats the point in buying a shirt that is only current for a season a quarter of the way into that season. Our club is going up the wall, how do we ever expect to sign players if we cant get the bloody shirts released on time. STINKS! |
Chiefy
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... Do is it only us who have, what seems to be, instability before a season ? do all clubs go through this prior to the season and as we a Villa fans we are blinkered to it ?? I should imagine that most of the chasing pack have a pretty similar pre season and it is only the wannabes and newbes that actually enjoy their pre season where everything is a bonus as their expectation is so low, i.e stay in the league, not get relegated. Spuds now have something to look forward to, Liverscum have a new manager and the boat seems to have been steadied, Man Citeh are going nuts with the Visa, Utd have been quiet but they are strong to begin with, Arsenal has had its fair share of moaners due to lack of transfers, Chelski debit card is in hand so they are ok. That just leaves us and Everton, the Everton fans are probably use to not having a pot to piss in and getting nothing so that just leaves us |
Christian1983
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... I won't lose any sleep over the kit being delayed, but I'm just a bit embarrassed that this can happen at Villa. Could you imagine United or Liverpool being told 'wait til September for your merchandise'?? It just smacks of Villa to be honest. Slow, hesitant, miss the boat, Aston Villa. Can't believe we're on 27th July and we still have NOTHING happening at Villa Park. We dont even have a kit to purchase! Off on tour this week with the exact same squad as lat year- well, minus one or two actually. Rumours are only acknowledged at Villa when they are to be shot down immediately. Otherwise, we hear nothing from the club, apart from b*tching between the boss and Milner. Sort it out Villa, it's worrying now. |
John Salter
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... KrisAVFC - Totally agree but I don't think MON ever wanted or wants Milner to go. Personally I hope he stays, Villa end up higher in the league than the Mercenary Scum and little Jimmy realises it would have been a bad move! Chiefy - I agree it's not the end of the world but it's not good. The club will no doubt miss on sales as well because of the delay. This should have been sorted out ages ago and the shirts ready to go for the start of the season! The Fonz - It would be a great confidence boost if he scores tonight. Surely MON will play him more this season whatever the outcome against Spain. |
Damian
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... Chiefy no - it doesn't concern me and if it concerns anyone that surprises me we couldn't find a sponsor for two seasons - then sold that as 'we couldn't find someone to match our expectations' then go and sell out to the same company that sponsor Fulham - great expectations come on Chiefy - kit release date shouldn't be a concern the fact that players want to leave, we cant sell out our stadium, the football doesn't develop and the owner takes out millions upon millions in 'management fees' are three things that concern me. not the release date of a shirt that is a waste of money anyway |
Chiefy
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... We have a little bit of info regarding the shirt, a friend of mine is at this moment down the villa getting tickets for Valencia. He has asked someone in the shop and apparently the hold up is something to do with the sponsor no details given just that the sponsor is holding the shirts being printed |
mickey86
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... i criticesd the release date on there facebook thread - it got deleted - and then sum1 called me fickle for complaing lol. |
Steve-o83
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... The kit release date does concern me though not for myself to buy it. Its the loss of revenue from the sale of the kit that is the problem. We gotta sell before we buy, the wage bills too high, etc etc yet one of the biggest revenue pullers is delayed til virtually mid season! How many people will not buy the shirt this season because you will only have a current shirt for half a season! Yet another loss of revenue! |
Damian
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... mickey86 it saddens me that the club create a facebook page then moderate it like that - really does show that it isn't just the football stuck in the 90's Steve-o83 based on the last filed accounts - lerner took out over £7,000,000 in management fees which represented just under 10% of all money brought into the club and doesn't include the money he took out in interest payments my point is. for £7,000,000 you can buy over 150,000 aston villa shirts at £45 each - even if we sold 150,000 shirts between now and the start of the season - chances are the money would just go to lerner anyway dont worry about loss of revenue. lerner is just taking it |
jk92293
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... looks like MCgeady wont be plying his trade with us this season.... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6280739,00.html |
Dubbers
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... Just wait until the January sale in Littlewoods. I bought last season's shirt for €13.00 including delivery charge. |
Raj the Villain
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... Maybe by September we would have some loan signings and free transfers to announce..... |
jk92293
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... the only positive about the interest repayments is that we are not paying back a bank or commercial company, its the Lerner Family Trust which can extend it by 20 years (after 2019) if they feel like it...or at least i assume unless told otherwise. |
Andy
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... Let's just get rid of Sidwell and Heskey and actually use the remaining squad in a proper rotation substitution policy. Bring through Albrighton, Bannan and Lichaj and we have a very strong squad. Rotate/sub Gabby and Fonz properly. Play/sub/rotate L Young/Lichaj at RB. Rotate/sub Cuellar/Collins/Dunne. I'd play Albrighton Milner Young NRC Downing across the middle and we still have some decent midfield options left open to us. 4-5-1 with a decent squad and no money spent. We are all happy...Simples |
Damian
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... jk92293 if ellis had taken out the kind of management fees that lerner has there would be banners and protests and marches to get him removed as for the interest lerner is taking out on top of the management fees .. well, business is business |
Headologist
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... Damien 'based on the last filed accounts - lerner took out over £7,000,000 in management fees which represented just under 10% of all money brought into the club and doesn't include the money he took out in interest payments' That's the first time in four years, £33,650 a week, a lot less than Sidwell for a lot more worry Next...... |
Andy
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... Damian...I understand that Lerner is giving INTEREST FREE loans. I've not seen the account, but I've read they are interest free several times since he's been the owner. Can you confirm you have seen him taking interest on the loans...? |
Damian
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... Headologist salary is something else - we don't know how much, if any, he took out in salary. there is a difference also - the club is in more debt now than it ever has been. good time to be adding more to it for management fees? |
Lew Chatterleys lover
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... Gabby up front on his own ? not sure about that one. Where are the goals going to come from presuming that Gabby won't hit the 20 mark (hasn't done up to now), and our midfielders struggle to get into double figures. Would much sooner go for Carew as the target man, Gabby and Albrighton on the flanks, and any 3 from Ash, Milner, Petrov, and Downing in the centre. Carew will get 20 if he is left to play the whole season, and Gabby will still chip in with a dozen from the wing. If Carew tires bring Fonzie on. As for the shirt, I don't think we score to many own goals on the commercial front we tend to leave that to the clowns from Small Heath, if it is an issue with the sponsor it's probably a price worth paying considering the size of the deal. It'll all be forgotten once we get a signing or two. |
Villa Season Ticket
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... why is there arguments over randy when we should be looking at the bigger picture. if i was learner i wud not give mon another penny unless he raised it himself mon has had plenty of money to spend in his time @ the club and has failed to deliver in any transfer windows. mon is now trying to sell most of the players he signed because he has realised they dont make the grade or he has fell out with them the whole thing of milner being sold to fund our transfers is down to mon no one else if mon signed quality players in the first place we wud not b in this situation |
Andy
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... Am I right in thinking that Villa had a fans consultation thing going last season for the design of the new shirt..? If so, how come we just ended up with the generic Nike shirt the dutch have. I take it the kit design forum only need to decide what the colours were going to be  |
Chiefy
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... The Bigger picture as of now: Milner we have no idea what the hell is going on. New shirt we have no idea why we cant have one Signings we have no idea if we will have any Funds we have no idea if we have got any So we can concur that we have NO FCUKING IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON !! The club dont give a nats arse either because no one wants to tell us what is going on  |
Andy
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... Milner we have no idea what the hell is going on - He will be leaving. New shirt we have no idea why we cant have one - Yer over 25 Chiefy so you don't need one. Signings we have no idea if we will have any - We don't need any. Funds we have no idea if we have got any - We will only have around £10M additional allocated for this season. We now know what the bigger picture is |
Chiefy
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...come on Chiefy - kit release date shouldn't be a concern Damo it is a collection of all of the things you mention that concern me yes, but as fan and supporter the only one that has any effect on me directly is not being able wear my colours, perhaps I am naive in that all the other concerns i choose not to consider purely for the fear of what that may result in, especially if enough people have the same concern all at the same time. The shirt effects me directly and while only a small problem gives me enough to bitch about, the other more worrying and pressing issues I leave well alone purely because of the fear of what if ! |
Christian1983
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... Andy, do you really feel we don't need any new signings? You really think that our side which finished 6th can repeat that or improve on it without new faces? Really? |
Chiefy
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...New shirt we have no idea why we cant have one - Yer over 25 Chiefy so you don't need one It is you Andy, it is you that has caused the shirt date to be put back to stop over 25's from buying one !!!!  |
Longman
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...if ellis had taken out the kind of management fees that lerner has there would be banners and protests and marches to get him removed Yes there would, and the simple reason is that Ellis put very little into the club. Randy has invested millions over recent seasons so for him to take a fraction of that back out is only fair. He's not the Glazers who put nothing in and take millions every season. For god's sake, we are not a charity and I don't expect Randy to just spunk money over us without taking a tiny amount back. Get in the real world. Anyway, as you don't buy a kit, or have a season ticket it's not your money Damian so stop bleating on about it! |
Luckynumber7
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... gents - it's nothing to get worked up about. The club can't tell you information about players coming or going when there is a deal to be done. They can't show their hand like this. You wouldn't publicise your position if you were buying a house would you? You wouldn't tell the people buying yours that you couldn't afford another one, unless they paid you top whack. It would weaken your position. Yes - it's the buying the house comparison again...  similalrly, with regard the kit, Nike can't do anything if we don't sort the full requirements. If that includes the sponsor, who is paying upward of 10 Millon Pounds, then we have to wait to finalise that let's all just chill out a bit and speculate some more about what Milner said to Mon when intimated he wanted to leave... |
Chiefy
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...Anyway, as you don't buy a kit, or have a season ticket it's not your money Damian so stop bleating on about it! Some body has been told x |
Villa Season Ticket
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... Longman spot and also randy has given MON more than enough money to build a quality squad and he has failed to do so |
Andy
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... Christian.....If MON does actually use the squad then yes we can. This is assuming Milner stays however, which I think he won't. Well, I'm actually 95% certain he won't. I think the deal for Milner will be done later today or tomorrow. Albrighton, Fonz, Lichaj can all step up. We just need to sort out the formation and the rotation policy, which is the biggest detriment and number one priority to sort. We can go buy five more players, but if the formation and use of squad is wrong they won't help one jot. |
oldnick
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... We are not going to get what we want. We just have to except that we dont have much to spend and what we do have Mon will most likely spend it poorly, but we have to remember to support our club and the players that take the field. It is our club not learners or mons but ours. |
Andy
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We better not start that debate again |
Andy
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... I know what the hold up is with the new shirt. They realsied that they forgot to sew in the warning label saying..'Warning to over 25's, the wearing of this shirt other than at a football match will make you look like a chav' |
Craigy1874
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... Andy I love your passion about the over 25 thing but I am a young looking 29, even been told i only look 24 recently! Would I get away with wearing a villa top ? |
eirevillian
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... interesting.... http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/07/27/itk-information-on-milner-and-ireland/ |
Craigy1874
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...Villa_Chris said: http://tinyurl.com/3x928gc [ |
Chiefy
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...but we have to remember to support our club and the players that take the field. even if you have to wear a shirt from yesteryear |
Villa_Chris
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... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/first-team.aspx Think they're worried about a maximum of 25 in a squad? |
Craigy1874
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...Villa_Chris said: Ha ha mate, just a laugh, think its well funny ! |
The Droyd
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... Eirevillain - who are these people and why are they privy to such info? Links to SWP and Keane worry me. They are way past their best. Anymore has beens that we have been linked to? |
Chiefy
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... I have some transfer news and its not milner or ireland Villa have made further enquires in Flamini Thats it |
Chiefy
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... Keane is not coming Welly face wants to keep him, he was player of the tournament they where in in usa, Keane is off the radar unless we give them young in the deal like that will happen ! |
Andy
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...Andy I love your passion about the over 25 thing but I am a young looking 29, even been told i only look 24 recently! Would I get away with wearing a villa top ? Is 24 what it says on your match.com profile...? |
TheDiamond
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... The SWP rumour came out of the Mirror so its probably nonsense. I'm certain Stephen Ireland is reluctant to come to Villa park and would prefer to either go to Liverpool, or a big central European club. He's probably got his agent on the case. |
Villa_Chris
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... Andy, I reckon all these little digs are actually descriptions of yourself....just a thought I don't believe anything in the transfer unless there is some real weight to the links. I would like to see Keane come though. Hope you're wrong Chiefy. |
Villa_Chris
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...I can confirm the only thing holding the deal up now is Irelands reluctance to join Villa. Mancini has re contacted O’Neill to re adjust the bid to include Shaun Wright Phillips – but O’Neill is playing hard ball & wants Ireland ! Contrary to reports yesterday, the meeting with Milner and his lagal team did not go well & he’s insistent on leaving Villa. There are 4 to 5 deals being held up due to the Milner saga. one is a huge deal for a striker. ooooooooo  |
vivavilla
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...Albrighton, Fonz, Lichaj can all step up Fonz probably, Albrighton maybe, Lichaj no. Sorry, I think I can quite comfortabley say a 21 year old who has played ~15 senior games is not going to step up. |
Christian1983
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...They realsied that they forgot to sew in the warning label saying..'Warning to over 25's, the wearing of this shirt other than at a football match will make you look like a chav' Andy, I kind of agree! I'm 26, I don't ever wear my Villa shirts out and about unless it's at a match or I'm playing some sport. One exception to the rule- on holiday. It's one of the first things I pack. Very proud to wear it abroad and get some 'puzzled' looks from the hoards of Germans and Americans who have only heard of United and Liverpool. |
Christian1983
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...Fonz probably, Albrighton maybe, Lichaj no. Sorry, I think I can quite comfortabley say a 21 year old who has played ~15 senior games is not going to step up. You're right there, Vivavilla. I posted the other day on a similar theme. The quantity of youth players who keep being talked up as 'potential stars' and who can help us achieve our Top 4 ambitions is crazy. No team since Utd in early 90's has seen the number of 'quality' youth players come through that we keep talking up. The reality is, only 1 or maybe 2, will make the breakthrough and will add ability to our side. I've heard Delfouneso, Weimann, Forrester, Gardner, Lichaj, Albrighton, Bannan, Clarke etc are all going to step up 'if gievn the chance'. Truth is, 90% of them will be playing League 1, Championship or low Prem at best in 3 years. |
Chiefy
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... Can someone help me out? Am confused about this age thing and not wearing your colours when you get to a certain age? the only time I dont wear my colours is when I go to certain away games, all the other times I wear it when ever I can, I am proud to be Villa and seen as though now live further a field where chelski, utd and liverscum seem to be popular, even though its still in the midlands. I am getting a little bit of a complex so can someone enlighten me to what the issue is ?? |
KrisAVFC
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... I can't see us making any good signings this window, all the players we're linked with either are going somewhere else or dont want to come!!! I'm getting really pissed off with Martin O'neill!!!!!!!!!! |
VillaNick
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... Our main problem is that we can't shift any of our players to make way for new signings. Times ticking on, Keane's not now leaving, Young looking at Spurs, McGreedy now looking at Moscow, possibility of Flamini in, Shaurn Wright 'blood' Phillips & Milner-gate......... I am now actually getting a bit twitchy. The kit not being available yet is the least of our worries! |
Christian1983
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... It's a strange one Chiefy. It hink football shirts have just become 'chav-wear' a little. Possibly because of the 'United-shirt culture' everywhere. I know what you mean- why should it be 'wrong' to wear your colours everywhere? But I can see Andy's point too- except for at matches, they seem more of a youngster's clothes choice! Wow, the Villa blog going all Gok-wan... |
TheDiamond
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... Just spotted that the Flamini link was printed in the Mirror too. It's just old news regurgitated anew yet again. |
John Salter
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... Chiefy - Don't worry mate, I'm 46 and wear my Villa top whenever and wherever and on a regular basis. I'm 100+ miles from Brum these days but there are quite a few Villa fans round here and it's always nice to say hello when you see them or a car sticker with a Villa badge. Andy can't wear his 'int third world' because unless you've got a Leeds top on or a yorkshire tea loaf wedged up between your crack, your labelled as 'a great big gay' int Yorkshire He's obviously not as proud as you to be a Villa fan, so I wouldn't worry |
ak_27
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... http://www.eatsleepsport.com/a...80882.html Serioulsy would MON really let Milner and Young go the same summer. |
Chiefy
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... AK -- weely face has said he dont want young dont worry it wont happen its old news on newsnow that has sprung up again to create histeria |
VillaNick
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... That EatSleep and The Mirror website are probably the worst for rumours in the history of 'journalism' ever ever. |
Chiefy
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I am concerned we know more about this show than what we should sssshhhhhhhhh !!! |
John Salter
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... Chiefy - If Villa let Ashley Young and James Milner go, we would have to seriously consider the clubs ambitions. It would be like Chelski letting Lampshade & Drogbat go. It can't happen. Harry Redknapp was interviewed yesterday when Spurs returned from the USA and said he wouldn't go for Young because as far as he's concerned, he's a Villa player and Milner is beyond their reach, ie; price. I got the impression that he didn't want to damage our club which is more than can be said for the mulletless Mancini! No doubt some people will think that's rubbish but I think Harry's a decent manager and bloke. Mercenary City are going to have major problems as it is because of their squad size and although losing Milner is still a possibility, the longer it goes on the better it is for us and we keep him. There are already rumours that Barry wont even make the starting line up this season so where would that leave Milner? It would be nice to know the truth however as to who lied about Milner wanting to go or not and what was exactly said. We'll soon see eh? |
taglor
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... Joined the facebook group just to give them grief about the shirt and see how long till I get moderated, fascists!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hadders7
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... If we get SWP in a deal for Milner when quality players are available in that deal...Ireland for one and I'm sur ewe could get a decent striker out them that we are craving, then MON really has lost touch of everything...SWP is donkey w**k! |
vivavilla
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... I agree Hadders. A deal involving SWP in any way, shape or form means we get mugged off well and truly. |
Rob_The_Villain
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... On a different note, anyone watching England u19's? England losing 3-1 with 20mins to go. On the Fonz, he's been really good. He's had to feed on scraps because like the full England team, they like to hoof it forward and let the forwards run themselves into the ground!! When Fonz has got the ball he's causing havoc, turning 35 yards out and running directly at the defense with skill and intelligence. He has to get some game time this season, he has the attributes that Gabby doesn't have, intelligence, skill and finishing, they should work well together. Possibly the fastest strike pairing in the league!! |
TheDiamond
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... Just to prove what nonsense comes out in the Mirror, totalfootball.com and other sites there's a new rumour that Spurs want Scott Parker. This is despite the fact that David Sullivan has spent the entire Summer saying they will only sell him for really silly money and Redface saying spur will not spend big. Seriously, a feces flinging monkey could could up with something better. Expect this rumour to be quashed before Friday. |
Christian1983
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...On the Fonz, he's been really good. He's had to feed on scraps because like the full England team, they like to hoof it forward and let the forwards run themselves into the ground!! With tactics like that he'll fit in well at Villa under MON then. Just to echo some other posters' points. If we end up with SWP in any shape or form, then I will think about killing myself. |
taglor
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... Yeah but SWP is great andin the same mold of Routledge, Lennon, A Young etc he can run really quick in a straight line and fall over with no end product. Absolutely perfect for us. |
ak_27
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... Only 18 days left to the first day of the season and everything is up in the air in reality as far as i can see it. Squad full of players that either want out or MON wants out and f all happening. Sorry but we really are going nowhere but down the table this year. |
ak_27
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...If we end up with SWP in any shape or form, then I will think about killing myself. Just so you know he is better then McGeady. Not saying i want him but if i had a choice of players i would pick him over Aidan McGeady for £10m any day of the week. |
rocky5
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...taglor said: c`mon taglor,you know pace frightens defenders lol |
Christian1983
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... Jeez, McGeady must be shockingly awful! I can see it now... Cuellar lumbers forward from rightback, looks nervous and awkward in possession, shins a pass forward to SWP who collects it head down. SWP, runs, still head down. Head down and in any direction where there is space. No, wait, he's heard a call, there's a pass on! Heskey's begging for it! SWP decides, to the agreement of the crowd, that running ti out for a throw is better than the pass option  |
Chiefy
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... We can only hope of a supermrket sweep style raid in the last week of the window before west spam, its mon way! |
Christian1983
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... Exactly Chiefy, always the same. Next time you hear the beep, think of the sh*t you'll be signing in Transfer Window Last Week! |
Monkeywrench
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... Hmm I suspect the same people sorting out the kit orders are the ones in charge of Villa transfers, same level of urgency. |
jk92293
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... i'd wear my villa top to my wedding if i could! nothing wrong with it, chiefy....wear it whereever you want. i guarantee if whoever says that its silly to wear it in public will still give a nod to a fellow Villa supporter passing their way,...i know i do! wear it loud and proud! |
bobvillian
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... just cant work out what we are doing down villa park?none in none out with just under 3weeks to start of season.I would love to know the season ticket sales up till now.nobodys saying anythink with regard to transfers in or out. One word for it[shambles]dare i say everton;sunderland;stoke;and scum could all be above us this season unless MON pulls his f**king finger out? |
Longman
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... Ashley Young, no end product. This site gets more ridiculous by the day. That's why he was 2nd top assists in the league two seasons ago and in the top ten again last season despite having a below par season. Comments like this just reaffirm the thoughts that I have that too many people on this site really have no idea about football. |
TheDiamond
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... I think next season I'll decide to criticise how we played each game before kick off. It seems logical for me to do that now since it seems fine for others here to evaluate the 2010/2011 season three weeks before it starts. This time last season our back-line was Young-Cuellar-Davies-Shorey. Can you imagine how different last season would have been if it had stayed that way and do you all really believe our squad is going to stay the way it is now? Get real and have some patience. |
taglor
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... You're right Longman, only you know and understand football and all its variables. I would go so far as to say you actually know a lot more than most of the professionals and that is one of the reasons why I respect you're analysis so much. I apologise on behalf of me and all the other stoopidheads that think we know anything. All hail Longman All hail Longman |
viva las villa
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... would journos from the daily mirror f**k off and die. have they got nothing better to do but blow things out of context and unsettle our squad and best players. If MON has said that if a player wants to leave then we must get the right value for that player, this does not mean he is welcoming bids for Ashley Young. |
TheDiamond
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... And the prize for the most ridiculous rumour of the month goes to the Mail Online. We will not sign Beatie, not if he was the last striker in England. http://urloo.com/IiE0 |
Oscars Arse
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... I always like to wear the new shirt on holiday but now that opportunity has passed so can't be really bothered if I buy one now or not have a retro one from the 60's with no sponsor or manufacturers logo to spoil it just the badge. Any transfer deals are dependant on outgoings especially Milner so can't see much happening until then. Non plused either way now apathy has set in am not expecting anything special from us this coming season mid to lower table I'm afraid |
DanWilson82
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... If we sign Beatie I will be physicaly sick, thats not even funny as a joke. It would show zero ambition, it would be the move of a mid to lower table club. Infact, I may even slash my wrists. |
mickey86
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... if im honest - id prefer beattie than heskey, carlton cole, bobby zamora, kenwyne jones. and hes just as good as carew, if not a more natural finisher than JC. i just dont get why the article says he will sign to see us through to the end of the season, as tho its january now. plus what type of message would it send to other clubs if we sign beattie? |
Chiefy
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... James Beattie are you winding me up ? Link please The fall from what little grace we had is going to hurt !! Is the management smacked of their tits, no shirts till September and some clown thinks signing beattie is a step in the right direction what is going on ?? |
Chiefy
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... Friedel, Beye, Collins, Davies, Shorey, Albrighton, Reo-Coker, Sidwell, Bannan, Carew, Weimann Subs: Lowry, Clark, Lichaj, Parish, Hogg, Salifou, Cuellar The beattie thing is a load of rubbish |
Longman
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... Thanks Taglor, to be honest, your sarcasm is lost on me as I value your opinion on the goings on at Villa less than I value my 5 year old nieces. I find it hard to understand why you bother following (note the use of following rather than supporting) villa anymore as you seem to detest anything to do with the club and see everything in such a negative light. I am actually becoming concerned that you are suffering from some kind of bipolar disorder. Is your outlook on life as a whole as negative? If so, I'd try speaking to your doctor for someone to talk to and/or Prozac. Why not get a bit of realism and balance. I appreciate some things could be better. The shirt situation is not the best, it reeks of poor organisation and could result in lost revenue. Also, I appreciate that MON has faults and some things bemuse me. BUT I also see a heck of a lot of positive things happening at villa park, have done for the last 4 seasons when we have improved in the league and cups season on season and I remember the dark days under HDE when he ran my beloved AVFC into the ground. |
frem
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... ok im really worried now. We have apparentey lost out on keane,probably the best striker we could get. c.cole now  swp, much prefer ireland. mon has apparently hinted at a young exit but i did read this. From ‘Dexterblue’ on bluemoon I was at a golf pro am a couple of weeks ago in Limerick and Martin O’Neill was there…I asked him if Villa were going to buy Ireland…We had a bit of a laugh about the number of grandmother he has and asked me if I was related to him!!! But before he left he got serious and said he thought he was an excellent player. I took it that thinks a lot of him as a player but would not be bidding and If Ireland is happy to come – From the City end not Villa’s apparently yes but then again they told me that the deal for Milner was done at 28 mill and clearly isn’t . Also Onura ( Spelling shocking ) is interested in coming again from the City end . |
fastbackace
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... chiefy... any idea if there will be a link? or does that last one work for sure? |
Craigy1874
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...TheDiamond said: Did no one notice that link that was posted was from January ? So NOT a summer transfer rumour and NOT true. |
Genital Grinder
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... looks like I'll just have to try and sneak in cheeky innuendos on the OS for the night then. |
DanWilson82
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... Frem - the A.Young leaving/mon opening the door to Young offer story is a complete and utter case of someone using words in a particular order or way to talk about something else. They have taken mons words about Milner and sometimes having to accept offers which are so large, and then turned that into Mon welcoming a large offer for Ash. You only have to watch the interview Ash did after one of the recent friendlies to get it straight from the horses mouth, Ash would happily sign a new contract if it's put infront of him, no worries. |
Rob_The_Villain
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... Now that England are out hopefully Fonz will get some game time in Portugal for the Guadiana cup! |
mickey86
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... chiefy - i meant the full 90 minutes live game, not just the highlights - i used to catch a game evry noew and then during pre season. |
Genital Grinder
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... I wonder if Weimann is good enough to step up to the Prem, although if we was would we have heard more about him by now? |
mickey86
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... james colins went off in the first minute injured. not a bad goal, carew took it past 4 players, dinked it in and weiman scored a diving header. |
Chiefy
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... Weimann is only a kid like fonz, gardener and bannan they might get some game time this season lets hope the reason for no signing is because mon knows something about the kids that we dont ?!?! |
mickey86
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... banan and albrighton are switching the wings - chiefy - wouldnt it be f**king great if we did a Man U 1995 and won the league with kids. |
MoodyVilla
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... I really couldn't give a rats arse about the release date of the shirt. It's seven weeks in isn't it? Who gives a toss? There is every chance we might sell more, especially if we start well, because we'll all have to wait for it. I like the new shirt, I like Nike and I'm glad we now have a reasonable income coming in from the sponsor and I couldn't care less if they sponsor Fulham. People who can't believe we haven't signed anyone yet are doing my head in. Have you just started following Villa this year? He does this every season, literally exactly the same every season for four summers! Yet he still manages to get bodies in, good players, not so good players and the occasional, inspired transfer that makes us a sneaky profit. How often have we signed players that we are linked with at the beginning of a window? Hardly ever... Keane is decent, but he is a bit old and if MoN wasn't prepared to pay an inflated fee for a player with only three seasons in him then I understand. We will sign a striker, a fullback and a midfielder. This is certain, all the players we have been linked with are of this ilk so it stands to reason these are the players he'll try to get in. Calm down, our club is going in the right direction, we have good players, a good manager and a good chairman. Chill out and enjoy, it's gonna be another rollercoaster of tears and elation and there will be different favourites, different Villains and the joy comes from not knowing how it will go. Christ, Albrighton could be a £20m target for Real or Gabby might net 30 goals or Cuellar might play at RB. I enjoy our team, I'm glad we are who we are because I value football and the way a club should be won and I enjoy all the little nuances of our club, players and manager. I love the fact Sidwell is a Chav with an Angel tattooed on his back who likes to kick people and I love the way Heskey always falls over so I can scream at him and I love MON and his little eccentricities and how it doesn't matter if your FSW, SAF or Reo Coker he takes s**t from no one!!! f**k everyone else, I'm a Villa fan and it's f**king great!! |
mickey86
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... lol chiefy rob_the_villain - sky sports news have a man at the bescott and they showed the goal 5 minutes ago. |
mickey86
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... JC is playing well, all over the pitch, walsall are crap and mite aswell of not turned up. (words of the ginger commentator) suprised the ground is half empty tho. |
mickey86
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... rumour has it that MON is in the crowed sittin next to 2 players with hoods up and sun glasses on. new signings or a couple of chavs from aston? |
Chiefy
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...suprised the ground is half empty tho the recession hits harder in walsall, you need to hvae a job in the first place |
Chiefy
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...rumour has it that MON is in the crowed sittin next to 2 players with hoods up and sun glasses on. new signings or a couple of chavs from aston? chavs |
Genital Grinder
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...rumour has it that MON is in the crowed sittin next to 2 players with hoods up and sun glasses on. new signings or a couple of chavs from aston? A couple of chavs from Aston surely |
Craigy1874
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... check out this goal celebration, imagine big heskey being the fish ! http://news.sky.com/skynews/Ho...er_Region _0& lid=ARTICLE_15671760_Iceland_Football_Team_Become_Inter net_Sensation_After_Catch-A-Fish_Goal_Celebration |
Genital Grinder
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... I would too Dan, but at the same time I'd rather swallow a shotgun than have either of them. Just the fact that Beattie is even getting mentioned here sums it all up at this point. |
craigy
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... Beattie is not an option it was an old article from january get a grip as if we would honestly sign him. |
not so silent bob
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... Damian can you email the PR department at VP to get the Crest changed from PREPARED to NOT A FECKING CLUE? |
stevo holte boy
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... Never felt so disatisfied with the club - sell to buy sucks . Just delays the process of bringing in any players. If to buy 3 quality players means selling Jimmy boy, then do it. This is going to be one long uneventful season unless MON does what hes paid to do a take the club forward every year. The new shirt looks pretty s**te so don't get worried about buying it late. f**k it i'm off to the pub. |
Longman
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... Just said on SSN - Barry Bannan, cracking young prospect - sounds like he had another good game |
Villa_Chris
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... 21:42[Comment From Simeon ] Fantastic job gentlemen, it's hard to convey my love for the Villa in less than 83 paragraphs!!! UTV! 21:39[Comment From Taglor and Damian ] Hi Guys, were having a pint watching the commentry, great job, were both big fans, you rule keep up the good work!! 21:34[Comment From John Doyle ] I'm at the game on my Iphone give us a wave Paul and Dan!!! Just hope I don't get stuck in the car park for 5 hours this time!!! 21:32[Comment From Taglor ] Dan don't worry, you're my hero...after O'Neill of course! ;-) 21:29[Comment From johndoyle loves mon ] thanks for the updates guys 21:27[Comment From Chiefy Boy ] Don't stop believing...VOLUME 20!!! 21:25[Comment From frem loves Ireland ] Great commentary lads, love you both! 21:23[Comment From Vijay ] I stayed in the same hotel as mon at the peace cup last year! What a guy! 21:20[Comment From Villa_Chris ] sali, salifou, sali, SALIFOUUUUUU!!! 21:15[Comment From Villa_Chris ] WOOOOOOO YEAHHHHHH 21:14[Comment From Simeon ] Great Job guys thanks for the commentry I don't know how you fit it all in in under 15 paragraphs! 21:03[Comment From Damian Dugdale ] 4-4-2 is the way forward woop woop! 20:36[Comment From james milner ] i agree taglor 20:34[Comment From Taglor ] Thanks for the great commentry guys, Aston Villa are awesome, the love of my life, Villa forever and Mon is a genius!! |
taglor
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... Err could you guys fill me in on what your on about? I guess its someone commentating but on what and when? It sounds funny! |
DanWilson82
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... Taglor - It was the live commentry on the OS tonight of the Villa Wallsall game |
Greg Davillain1887
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... can i ask ye something, would ye be happy if milner stayed and oneill started to progress delfouneso, bannan and albrighton, wouldnt it be refreshing if they actually were good enough, having players who love the club, putting in the effort for love of the game and in the hunt for glory, id love if it happened because i think o'neill deserves credit for trying to keep a soul within the club, we could be on the precipice with these kids, maybe its all part of a grand master plan, there's not much movement this year except for city, so if we don't sign big it doesn't mean we fall behind like other years, as by and large most clubs are in the same boat. Come on the lads |
Gardner
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... Good work with the live commentary! A Liverpool-supporting mate of mine is hearing Luke Young to them! Strange one. |
Simeon
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... Greg Davillain1887 The flaw in your plan is that O'Neill doesn't pick kids. He'll pick his tried and trusted players week in, week out. That's what he's done his whole career, and that's what he's done for the last four years at Villa. As for O'Neill having a grand masterplan... he doesn't. |
Gardner
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... Simeon The point is there to be made about O'Neill not being prepared to play the kids - or rather that he doesn't have faith in them - but in the case of Delfouneso this is wide of the mark. I feel as certain saying that as I can be when it comes to knowing what's going on inside the head of our manager. I don't whether or not any of the other posters on here managed to go, but last year I had the pleasure of attending a Q&A session with MON at the Cadbury Club in Bournville. Delfouneso was a topic that he brought up and persisted with and what was suprising was how he spoke about him without any of the ambiguity we've come to associate with him; someone once pointed out that Martin O'Neill is skilled in legal vernacular, having studied it, and so in his interviews he always covers all possible angles, which is something we've all noticed about him really. It's non-committal and wait-and-see. With Delfouneso, though, he was explicitly, openly praising him and saying that the boy is a real talent - he just genuinely wants to nurture that, make sure the boy is level-headed enough and committed enough to Villa (or perhaps to O'Neill, should he leave). In the case of Delfouneso, I don't think it's a lack of faith, but more a case of really believing he's the real deal and erring on the side of caution with regards to exposure. |
Gardner
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... Re. Luke Young: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/27/liverpool-luke-young-aston-villa |
frosty
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...The flaw in your plan is that O'Neill doesn't pick kids. Can you still be a kid in your early 20's ? |
frosty
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... http://www.shanklygates.co.uk/...&Itemid=18 Another one, looks like this could be true. |
john doyle
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... just got back from game thought all the kids where good big john looks fit wieman showed that playing in u19 for austria did him good cant wait for the fonz to return as he was englands best player by a long way bannan good as well i can only hope mon gives the kids a chance this year and dont buy any more has beens only downside why is heskey still a villa player and the ginger winger was given a game he aint inproved |
Greg Davillain1887
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... simeon, id be in the same boat as gardner, actually what he said i couldnt put it better myself, i believe he is burturing the young lads and now its their time to step up. If you look back over a year or so, those three lads have gotten phisically stronger bannan albrighton and delfouneso, now they are strong enough to compete and i think there time will come. |
TBD1
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... Villa and Nike will have a contract that stipulates any delays on sponsors etc will delay kit delivery dates. Nike could provide blank shirts but that would likely go against any contract between Villa and FxPro, they could also provide shirts for the club to embellish with the sponsor but that has financial and distribution implications for the club. Bring back Müller yogurts I say! |
The Droyd
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... Liverpool rumour seems to be true. If you look at O'Neill's reaction to the Walsall game on the official website, he confirms that they have had an offer from a club which Young is mulling over. Hopefully this will free up some funds for a player that O'Neill actually wants to select. |
Chiefy
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... Rumour has it Lionel, the heskey one, is going to Sundertombolaland and he has said his goodbyes to the Villa squad |
AussieLion
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... Funny commentary last night guys good work and keepi it up! Rumour has it Lionel, the heskey one, is going to Sundertombolaland and he has said his goodbyes to the Villa squad Yes! hopefully. Him plus Young will give MON about 5m and 80 000 in wages. I can confirm the only thing holding the deal up now is Irelands reluctance to join Villa. Mancini has re contacted O’Neill to re adjust the bid to include Shaun Wright Phillips – but O’Neill is playing hard ball & wants Ireland ! Contrary to reports yesterday, the meeting with Milner and his lagal team did not go well & he’s insistent on leaving Villa. There are 4 to 5 deals being held up due to the Milner saga. one is a huge deal for a striker. This could be possible. MON might have already chosen the players he wants but just doesnt have the money to do it. it would be smarter to organise deals before he gets the 30m from Man City as clubs would then charge us more. Hopefully one of the deals involves a double deal from AC Milan for Huntelaar and Flamini. |
Chiefy
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...Villa spokesman Brian Doogan said theirs was not the only club to be experiencing delays and staff had worked hard to bring the kit out as soon as possible. Mr Doogan no I wont be understanding, you run my football club and up until now I have been able to purchase a new shirt, for the coming season, before the season started. As a supporter by buying the shirt my money is going back into my club, I shouldnt have to understand nothing because as I see it cant be a very hard task and one the has been managed every year without problem up until now. As a supporter we probably have to "be understanding" alot more than any other fans in the country and now you cant even get our kit out in time !! |
Chiefy
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... Craigy -- it winds me up i could get on my soapbox but i wont i will refrain myself, but us a supporters and fans always lose out |
Craigy1874
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... Chiefy im with you all the way mate, i thought that as i wasnt going on holiday until 8th September i would have the top, now the italians are not going to be able to see the new villa home kit ! Really isn't good enough, whatever way you look at it. If it is down to the sponsor, thats not a good start to our working relationship is it? They delay the kit release ? Did they buy a stake in villa as well or something ? Surely we have to say this is not good acceptable, the fans want the kit for the start of the new season? Pathetic ! |
david harrison
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... Been in the Villa shop today (28/7) told due to late supply supporters will be offered free numbers and lettering. Still cant help but feel Villa back of the queque. Good to sell Milner so Martin O'Neil can find 2 new James Milners for same price when Milner come from Newcastle. Sounds a bit mad....but you have to be to support this lot. |
jashington
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... shocking that the new kit isn't out for the start of the season! Hugely embarrassing in fact - looks to me like Nike are treating us like second class citizens as Arsenal and Man U shirts are out in plenty of time. I don't want some overpaid primadonna's name on the back of my shirt so that's no compensation for not have the use of the shirt for an entire season......not good enough!!!! |
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