Sunday, 05 February 2012 16:30
What can I possibly write that will make it easier to accept that under this manager, we are going nowhere? I could try with 'our Academy players are getting some chances' but I'm not sure that is going to do it and I think we just have to accept that we all knew this was coming and we really shouldn't be surprised.
But there are positives. Stephen Ireland apparently told the manager to 'f**k off' which resulted in him getting taken off at half time and Barry Bannan coming on. It is positive, if true, because players are now telling the manager what we all think and again, if true, it is a horrid signal to everyone associated with the club.
The game also finished with Bannan and Gardner on the pitch and these two, given more games and time will come good for us. They play for the club first and that is what you need on the pitch. It was also nice to see Robbie Keane play such an influential role again and score our goal.
The result is the result
But, we lost and sure there were moments when we worked that extra bit which resulted in us thinking we looked good, but it was just that we tried a little bit and I like to think it was all because of Robbie Keane - he really has been the difference since he joined and I'm actually a little worried about what will happen when he leaves.
So defeat means we stay in 13th place - eight points from the relegation zone and twelve points from the target set by Aston Villa CEO Paul Faulkner, of European football.
I can not see that happening now, I wonder what happens at Aston Villa when targets are not met?
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Elmo Grub
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... The game was ours to win after the first half. We've recently tried to play the ball on the floor with attacking intent, and looked good when we have. I thought AM had turned a corner and finally realised, and then he goes and reverts to negative football when the game's there to win. It's like he's addicted to it. So disappointed, so frustrating. He's not going to change is he - and therefore he really should go at the end of the season. I need a drink. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Well done to Ireland (if true) telling the Clown where to go. We lost today not because we were inferior to opposition, taking in account they had two key players missing from the engine room, but the managers dire selection policy. |
sai
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... Mcleish is Mental.. I can't help but think what it could have been if he had brought on Gardner at that time with Nzog on the pitch. Clark is too slow for the midfield  |
John Salter
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... Villa played some good football today and were unlucky not to get anything from the game. AMc shouldn't be playing Bent up front on his own and he didn't change things quickly enough. We looked far better with Gardner and Bannan on but the change came too late. Could've gone up to tenth with a bit more luck, they're first goal was fluke. I fk;in hate Villa losing but we gave Newcastle a game toady. Things have to change and we have to stop giving the ball away and hoofing it up the pitch. Thank you Mr Lerner, you arrogant, useless tool! |
fatherTed
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... Really missed our 2 regular central midfielders today - Cheik Tiote and Cabaye. Think Villa would be OK if they had Keane and Bent for the rest of the season. May struggle without Keane? |
Billyvilla
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... I think i will be starting to do the BBC Predictor if we dont start picking up some much needed points. Only seems like yesterday under MoN (7 wins in 10 for the Macams) that i was looking at the predictor for possible 4th...... God what a mess. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Watching Gardner and Bannan play today along with Nzogbia, we do have the players to be much higher up, all we need now a manager who can utilize our players to there true potential. |
Avoldie
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... Why are they still looking so surprised when they received the ball... don't they practice any more? Having said that its the first time I've thought we may win for a few games.. |
SCOTSWOOD SUEDEHEAD
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... Chin up Guys, Villa have a decent team and won't go down. A change of manager in the summer, Lambert perhaps??. |
birty
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... we are going nowhere under this p***k... its simple. that centre of midfield need proper energy... clarke and petrov are sooooo slow |
In McLeish We Trust
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... Woeful post. So now you are encouraging players to disrespect the coaching staff? Especially a vile character like Ireland? If you remove the anti-McLeish blinkers, then you'll see that today we were unlucky. If that is true about Ireland, I hope he never plays for us again. Especially how much support Alex has given him. And the positives we all know about were there this game, but the negatives will remain until the summer. Dunne and Warnock especially bad today, Hutton was reasonable. Carlos already looking much more assured. Next game, I'd like to see Dunne and Bent dropped for Clark at the back, Gardner starting in midfield and Heskey upfront. Looked much more of a threat when he was on because the ball wasn't just pinging back from upfront every time. In McLeish We Trust. |
John Salter
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... European football!!!!!!! And that says everything about Faulkner! He's a graduate t**t that knows nothing about the game! Just like our owner! |
Dave74
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... That game was there to win. The manager lost it for us! 2 crucial substitutions which highlighted his inept tactical knowledge. Ireland off for Bannan (understand this is due to an insult) but worst still....N'Zogbia for Heskey???? WTF???? Bannan is promising but needs to learn the easy pass. When Gardner came on he showed more quality in 10 mins than Clarke and Petrov did all game!! Why wasn't he starting? Sack him now, we have the worst manager in the country and I do not trust him to run for a bus let alone OUR club! |
mon 4-5-1
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... Why bring on Heskey for Nzogbia? are you really telling me Heskey is a better winger than Nzogbia? How many mistakes does Dunne need to do before the Clown realises he is a liability? he was to blame to the second goal. |
divine_islet
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... Clarke has only one place in the villa team,and that's in central defence,he's just stationery in midfield,utterly a waste of space in midfield.As i type this,just saw the goals they scored again in slow motion,and that son of a bitch Dunne left Cisse unmarked,and against QPR he just f**king stood there watching Djibril Cisse score without even an attempt to block the shot?Warnock yet another son of a bitch,with that horribly mistimed tackle on a newcastle player prior to their opener,which was a sure penalty.Everytime i see those idiots signed by MON ,it makes my blood boil,and i hate MON even more than before. AMC is another f**king idiot,who has no idea what to do as a football manager.Heskey in midfield,and continuing to play Warnock,Dunne,Collins in defence, Clark in midfield,Ireland on the right wing? |
Damian
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... In McLeish We Trust So now you are encouraging players to disrespect the coaching staff? Especially a vile character like Ireland? If you remove the anti-McLeish blinkers, then you'll see that today we were unlucky.no, i'm not encouraging players to disrespect the coaching staff. what i'm saying is it is been widely reported that the player disrespected alex mcleish - something that many would like to be able to do because there are no blinkers he wins 1 in 4 in the premier leauge. he has an actual habit of relegating sides from this league it isn't blinkers. blinkers are thinking he is going to change and it is going to get better. |
Nigel
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... Had enough of this manager now. I look through the squad we have, and with the exception of our full backs, I think we have some real quality. I can only only conclude that the manager does not have the ability to get the best out of the players he has at his disposal. Bringing off N'Zogbia for Heskey speaks for itself!  |
Agrotis
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... Ireland subbed because he told his useless manager to f**k off twice, because McCleish was blaming him for not cutting out a cross. Seems all this PR bull from the club about a happy dressing room is total b****x, just like everything else they come out with. Time for Lerner to pack his manager and the twerp that is ruining the club,into a suitcase, and take them with him to somewhere thats a million miles away from Villa Park. But then again, losing has become acceptable amongst some of us,second only to mediocrity. |
AngryVillaFanGrr
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... Can someone enlighten me as to the reasoning for Barry Bannan playing the entire half on the right side when the lad cant take a touch with his bloody right foot? Also Stephen Warnock is SHOCKING. Id love to see Enda Stevens there next game, lord knows we havent had a decent outside back in years. Mcleish out out out. I really tried to give him a chance but my god he really hasnt got a clue had he? |
Old McParland
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... We played some good football first half and could have been 3 up toon were second best and their goal was fortunate when it bounced to their player when serrounded by villa shirts.even the most loyal toon would if speaking the truth agree with that.Second half not sure what actualy happened but we totaly lost midfield and allowed them to drive on but their second goal was world class and no loyal villa fan would not agree with that it was a worthy game winner.We gave them a god go but did not play the entire game like the first period.Still were in the prem and i am not going to get pissed off about losing untill we lose the game that finaly sends us down and hopefully that will not occur.UP THE VILLA |
Marc_51
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... We were the better team today and we are slowly turning a corner under Mcleish. Our attacking play has been good over recent weeks and the football is improving but we will go nowhere until we stop conceding soft goals at the back and he has a summer to change that back four! Houllier knew Dunne, Collins and Warnock simply wernt good enough and it can't be hard for Mcleish to see that either...we've just got to get through this season and integrate the youngsters a bit more ready for next season! |
Nigel
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... Not a bad performance today but a loss is a loss and we need to move on. There were plenty of positives in the game but were just not clinical enough in front of goal. Substitutions were a bit dubious but Bannan performed well and so did Gardner but felt he came on 10 minutes to late. Have not got a clue why we still use Heskey would much rather see Weiman have a go, as this £60,000 a week striker just cannot compete at this level any more and is slower on the ball than Petrov. I am all for givinng managers a chance but Mcleish is just not getting the results and villa park should be a fortress not a place where we have not won at since november. I feel it is time for a change of manager and prehaps giving Kev McDonald a go prehaps as nobody knows the club as well as him  P.S what happened to Ireland??? |
Liz89
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... I can't put into words how I feel right now after watching that, so angry, frustrated and at the same time can't believe we haven't come away with a point at least. The football we can and have played is quality and it's not like we haven't scored goals. Defensively, it's so disappointing and it is the worst Villa defense I've ever seen. Warnock is beyond poor, Cuellar and Dunne did alright but definitely not reliably and it's a shame to say they make Hutton look good. I feel sorry for Shay Given but at times there looks like a lack of communication between all of them. Newcastle are massively overrated, and were poor for most parts of the game and still won. They have a talented striker in Demba Ba and the new guy whose shot noone would have stopped. I think Sky need to climb out of their a*** though. I am desperate to give McCleish the benefit of the doubt because the football has improved. He needs to take some responsibility for the poor defending but for the most part the players need to take a good look at themselves. If it means relying on youth then so be it they can't do much worse. Bring Clark back into defense, making space for Gary Gardner who has a really positive impact. Baker (lb) Clark and Dunne (cb) and Hutton (rb)only through lack of other options!! The sad thing is we ain't getting 3 points in our next game either and if results go against us I might start getting worried!! |
j doyle
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... divine islet i agree but who else can run and tackel in the team mcmuppet picks i feel sory for clark as he is the best deffender at the club by a mile how would dunne or collins or even carlos " who was our best player by a mile today" play in midfeild clark is sheer class and we all know he should play center half with carlos but mcmuppet dont think that the sooner he goes the better as i said we should not be upset because we all knew the result befor the start if the truth was known |
Pazzler
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... sat deep second half after playing well in the first half. why? for the 3rd successive game we scored on the stroke of half time yet we cannot seem to use this to spur ourselves on. |
davidg
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... "...under this manager we are going nowhere". I disagree. I think that under this manager, it's more than likely that we are going somewhere. DOWN. |
Agrotis
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...Surely its time to sack the manager now Randy????? Randy cant hear you, does not give a s**t what you say. The time has come for him to go. |
j doyle
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... mon 451 dunne was not at fault it was Mutton who never tryed to stop the cross this is the 25th goal to come from him this season where did the cross from the first goal comw from the left again he never stops crosses comming into the box he is useless |
Dave74
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... Did I just read we are turning a corner under the blue nose? Are you serious? He has ruined our team and took us 100 steps backwards! Now you applaud him for possibly moving 1 step forward! Are you his PA or something or does he owe you money? Open your eyes!! He is clueless and his record proves it! He even finished second in Scotland when there are only two teams!! |
divine_islet
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... I always believed that a manager has to be given at least 2 years in the job to judge if he's worth keeping.I until now was willing to give him time,but enough is enough,he has to leave pronto.I'm saying he should be out mainly because, how can any manager persist with poor defenders despite them f**king things up for us in defence ,time after time.It's high time that AMC was fired for continually making poor managerial decisions by playing players in the wrong positions,and picking ,not out of form but,useless "defenders".There's got to be an end to this,the home support should now stop going to matches,to make Randy throw this f**ker out the club,but i guess it's too late now for that,is it? |
Aero-4-Villa
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... As much as I hate the pr*ck and desperately wish he wasnt at Villa, ive come to terms with the fact McLeish is going nowhere. Randy wont sack him, he simply wont. He could give a sh*t what we want and we have to accept that. Its great to hear about Ireland saying what we all want to say, but in the end of the day, all this means is one of the few good things about this season has been for nothing. Ireland has come good and been a shining light for us, but he probably wont play again this season and will be shipped out in the Summer by the idiot manager that Randy wont sack. |
Villa since 1958
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... I have to admit I voted for Stephen Ireland for MoM - firstly because I believe he's the highest-quality player we have, and secondly for having the balls to tell AMc that his assessment of the game was incorrect in a manner that many Villa fans would also like the opportunity to do. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Bannan left footed attacking centre midfielder playing on the right wing. Heskey big bulky centre foward (with a appauling scoring record) played as a left winger. Clark central defender played as a midfielder. Our home record is shocking, and maybe our performance has picked up from previous performances, but honestly could it have got any worse - we are dire. When one of the sky pundits comments on the fact the we as a team need to put more than 3 passes together, and so called fans come on here telling us things have got better, it tells me how low we have set our standards. We have the quality, just needs a manager to utilise this quality, and this Clown is not the right man. |
In McLeish We Trust
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... Perplexed by the Heskey hate. As soon as he came on, aside from the sucker punch goal (which came from a move started by an incorrect ref decision on a Heskey foul), we dominated the game and had all the momentum. He held the ball up, laid it off to the more talented players and was on hand to get an easy tap-in if Krul had spilled Gardners header. Fact is we need a summer of clearouts. Trim the fat, don't repeat mistake of the past. Have faith in our youth being the nucleus of the team and bring in experienced composed figures to go around them. You can't have a defence full of "no-nosense", walking mistake merchants. Carlos is the only one that can turn on the ball without you having your heart in your mouth. |
Agrotis
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...Why bring on Heskey for Nzogbia? Because he kept giving the ball away, and playing for himself rather than the team. After Dunne,Warnock,Hutton and Collins piss off, Nzogbia would be next on my list. We need one hell of a clear out, and with little interest from the faggot that runs the club, little cash to do that, and a pillock as a manager to do that.....then things can only get worse. |
j doyle
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... how do you know that ireland told mccluless to f**k off wher has that come from damo if it is true then i wish it was me how can we find out if this is true |
Dave74
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... Can I make a cheeky suggestion?? (I know I will get slated but think first) get rid of the clueless ginger and bring in on a year to year rolling contract....Mr Simon Grayson. Take it in everyone and consider.... |
mon 4-5-1
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... jdoyle - Hutton should have stopped the cross, but when our central defender gives there striker all the time in the world to pick his spot (which by the way is not the first time with Dunne) then, you have to question what was Dunne actaully doing? Dunne is to slow and not mobile enough to play for us, actually in the premiership. |
K-Block
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... I whole heartedly agree with this post. Bannan and Gardner have to start games. Their creativity spoke volumes when they came on. Petrov is offering nothing of late and the defence is a absolute shambles! Unfortunately we are stuck with what we have got until the end of the season. We won't go down as there a poorer teams than us, but we will be very close to the drop zone. Look McLeish wasn't the right man when he was appointed and he's still not now. The football is negative and generally very poor. Let's not forget this is a man who has been relegated twice from this division. In the words on John Barnes at half time Villa vs Man Utd. " That type of football may have been acceptable at Birmingham City but it's not at a club like Aston Villa" That sums it all up for me. Randy Lerner take note now. Because if he's still in charge at the beginning of next season then expect very poor attendances at Villa Park! We will stay up, just, and the pressure will mount on Mcleish. VTID |
Steveo
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... o bloody frustrating, we now know were gonna give at the very least 1 to 2 goals away every game. bents work rate getting better but his hold up play is awful, keane quality but tired quickly second half, clark shouldn't be playing centre mid, defence fcuk knows what we can do with that lot (excluding cuellar). bannan had some nice touches but gardner showed he needs to start more games, he got in some fantastic positions, he could be our david platt type of player. Think the ireland sub partly changed the game that and the fact we can't play well for 90 mins |
divine_islet
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... What I'd like to know is where the f**k are those on here that said that GH is the reason we were conceding goals,when he was the manager,when actually it was those three so-called defenders making costly mistakes one after another time after time to ensure we don't maintain our prem status?The man realized this right away that these three were s**t on the pitch,and a bad influence off it.But,no,p***ks on here were blaming GH for trying to teach those crappy players a lesson.Now what do they have to say about us conceding goals in the manner we have been?Even great managers like Mourinho,or Pep Guardiola would not be able to turn them into able defenders,but at least they would recognize that those 3 are rubbish,and would have them benched,or be put in reserves. |
TrueVillan
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... we can all moan and see the obvious, but AM is going nowhere, he is doing the job he was brought in to do, reduce the wage, dont ask for a transfer fund and take all the blame away from RL. he is doing a sterling job! |
Elmo Grub
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... You can point fingers at the defence and yes they're not the best. Especially our full backs. But they played well, with confidence and composure for most of the first half. The blame for this result lies squarely with the manager. He set up for the second half defensively and invited Newcastle to attack us. We stood off them in the midfield and dropped way too deep. The defence panicked under the pressure and it was only a matter of time until they scored. If Ireland did tell him to f-off then fair enough on that sub - I'll give AM that, can't disrespect the gaffer like that. But he should have told Bannan to play the simple pass and retain possession because I saw the opposite from him too much. Too many attempts at the wonder pass when all was needed was simplicity. Heskey on for N'Zog was terrible - just terrible. What the hell was he thinking. |
Agrotis
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...how do you know that ireland told mccluless to f**k off wher has that come from damo if it is true then i wish it was me how can we find out if this is true Twittered by a Mirror reporter. how do you know that ireland told mccluless to f**k off wher has that come from damo if it is true then i wish it was me how can we find out if this is true Thing with being a good manager, is to be a lucky manager. Sounds silly, but think about it, because its so true. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Agrotis - so Nozgbia was not doing what the Clown asked him to do(lets not forget he did set up the equaliser), why on earth did the Clown actually think Heskey would be the ideal replacement? |
DeadTeamWalking
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... Look at the last six matches = RELEGATION FOR SURE We needed to start picking up wins two games ago because of these last six fixtures I can't believe some will still go to villa park Convincing Randy Lerner that you are behind mcleish Time to refuse and email the club refusing to have anything to do with aston villa while he is in charge ruining our club I hate you with a passion now Randy Lerner letting him do to us what he did to Birmingham you clueless YANK drop dead |
VillaMike
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... Damian: It's AM's fault that Dunne and Cuellar conceeded two goals today? It's AM's fault that Petrov (I think) played an attacking corner BACK TO GIVEN shortly before the 2nd Newcastle goal? It's AM's fault that Gards couldn't finish on two quality chances or that the NUFC keeper had an excellent match? AM is criticized for reminding Ireland that he needs to make a basic play in football?!?! AM is criticized for taking off a headcase for being insubordinate and is his own worst enemy!?!?!? AM tells Petrov to keep the ball on the ground (like we all want) and we defend Petrov?!?!?!? If only AM wasn't manager of AVFC, we'd have cured cancer, eliminated proverty, and ended starvation! And who exactly was going to take the AVFC job in a time of financial balancing? Please tell me which manager we missed out on who would play within certain constraints for a few seasons? If only we had Martinez, Coyle, Jol, or Hughes. Oh wait, their clubs are all in the same bottom half as us. FFS, I'm as annoyed at today's result as everyone but I'm not going to blame EVERYTHING negative on the manager. It's a lazy excuse. |
divine_islet
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... @Steveo Thanks for turning up here.Weren't you one of those GH haters,and a MON fan?What do you have to say about his s**tty defensive signings? |
j doyle
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... if that is true about ireland he told mcmuppet to f**k off for failig to stop the cros wher was his love child Mutton he should have been back there to stop it like the 2nd goal he dont stop crosses full stop mutton has as i have said before been the cause of over 20 goals because of his uslesness to stop crosses why has mcmuppet not told mutton to stop the crosses his love child i bet thats why ireland told him to f**k off |
DeadTeamWalking
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... I watched UFC last night and slept though the match as i new for a fact we would lose even mentioned it on yesterdays topic Predictable useless and my name says it all when it comes to villa |
Damian
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... VillaMike i dont know how to answer all those questions. but let me ask you one, that will hopefully help you see the bigger picture. is it his fault that football clubs in this league only manage, at best, a win every four games and that a team he has managed in this league were relegated twice? clearly, it isn't his fault when something happens on the football pitch, but clear as day it is his fault when it happens week in week out, because he isn't doing anything to fix it |
Agrotis
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...we can all moan and see the obvious, but AM is going nowhere, he is doing the job he was brought in to do, reduce the wage, dont ask for a transfer fund and take all the blame away from RL. Its working a treat. People need to focus better. Nobody wanted the job because of what was being asked. And when McCleish does leave, it will be the same again. No ambition = Ambitionless yes men as manager  Nothing will change until the leach has been removed. |
25yardDalian
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... just got the momentum going towards the end of the first half and then: IRELAND SUBBED NZOG SUBBED FOR "HESKEY" NEGATIVE DEFENSIVE FOOTBALL DEFENSIVE HOOFING SH*T MANAGER PLEASE JUST GO AWAY |
K-Block
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... Why when MON was there did we have one of the better defences in the premier league. They are the same defenders except Hutton???????? |
25yardDalian
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... I voted for Ireland as MoM just for standing up to the tw*t. Obviously it was Keane |
Steveo
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... gh was terrible end of, and under mon we defended better wouldn't you agree divine ? and what has oneill done with the same brucey relegation sunderland side ? look at the table kid. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... @Damian i don't think he isint trying to change i think instead he has no idea how to change it he is that useless |
Old McParland
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... I also a, a little bewildered as to why we did not at least obtain a point from the game, but for all your exceptiona; p;aying you need a slice of LUCK and for some time now lady luck has not been with us i was on the QPR forum the other night and their fans were admitting they were lucky to get a draw even though 0 ......2 at one point some even said you need luck but QPR had a shedfull of luck which they did same as the arsnal game two soft pens scored by persie who in truth should have beeen red carded for elbowing carlos straight on the chin.;But he got away with it and put 3 passed blackburn yesterday.Thought today with some good luck we could of had 4 even right at the death when the keeper stopped a shot and droped it directly infront of hesky.but it was not to be but they say what goes around comes around so lady luck may even yet play the right cards for us at the right time over the remaining games. |
Damian
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... DeadTeamWalking i'm not sure why it doesn't work for him i just know that it doesn't work for him - hasn't in this league and i dont expect it to it is easy managing rangers in scotland. it is a different game in this league |
steve in ireland
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... I am so angry I don't know where to start For those who say Bannan has to start, I say this we saw today that he is not as good as Ireland and never will be. Bent does not have his heart in it, probably cos' of the manager. Warnock should have been taken off with Gardner coming on in midfield much earlier. Our Manager thinks the way to win a game when in a losing position is to bring on the mule. We really are in trouble, this manager WILL take us down of that I have no doubt. If not this year then next cos' he ain't going nowhere. As far as RL is concerned he is doing a good job, spending now't, not complaining and taking all the flack away from RL. Can you imagine how much stick Deadly would be getting now if he was in charge and doing nothing. The time has come for ALL you love AV to find every means possible to get to RL and make him know that we are not happy. And for us all to do a Stephen Ireland and shout in our loudest voices "AM - F*ck *ff" |
divine_islet
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... I just found out today that we lost despite them not having Tiote and Cabaye playing for them,or else could have been worse!That's embarrassing!There's one thing i absolutely hate about most Villa fans,and that is - criticizing a player,as not good enough,even without them even kicking a ball for us!All i hear is "He's never played in the prem","He's played for a club that's been relegated",or "He plays for a team that's inferior to us,"He's over the hill"?So what?How's Cabaye,Keane,Ba etc doing now?They are certainly playing better than most villans would have expected them to. |
25yardDalian
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... In McCleish we Trust: Please advise how many times Heskey touched the ball - BIG INFLUENCE As well as his usual stupid fouls |
Agrotis
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...Agrotis - so Nozgbia was not doing what the Clown asked him to do(lets not forget he did set up the equaliser), why on earth did the Clown actually think Heskey would be the ideal replacement? Because the ball kept coming back to us, so i guess he needed someone to hold it, once played forward. I can actually see the reasoning with it. The one i find odd, was Bannon on for Ireland, when for me, Gardner may have been the better swap. Yes, Zoggy set up the equaliser, but other than that, he was his frustrating self. Hes simply not a team player in my view. |
holted
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... well if ireland did say it then are best player of late is not going to be playing soon is he!! |
Elmo Grub
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...Thanks for turning up here.Weren't you one of those GH haters,and a MON fan?What do you have to say about his s**tty defensive signings? divine, The season we signed them (09/10) Villa had one of the best defensive records in the prem. The standard of perfomances dropped when GH took control and haven't improved all that much under AM. So as far as MON is concerned they were decent signings. |
VillaMike
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... Damian: Answering a question with a question is avoidance. You could have answered each of those questions. Most of the answers were "no". And after that, there's the question of who else was really available to manage within the constraints. Pretty fair question, I think? I am frustrated with the manager AND the players. The players are getting off too easy. It's simple to blame the manager for everything. I see cutaways to AM on TV imploring the players to attack, imploring them to pass the ball, and they just seem like a squad that doesn't have the mental fortitude or player leadership to change for a full 90 minutes. It's foolish to blame AM for everything. Please take a few minutes (that's really all it will take) to answer my questions. Seeing the answers in print may help you see "the real bigger picture" more clear. Jol out? Coyle out? Martinez out? Hughes out? AM out? Lazy! |
divine_islet
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...Steveo said: GH wasn't terrible,he was trying to change the terrible football we played,by dumping those terrible players that we have,that were making those terrible mistakes that they have been making since MON left.We defended better as we had good midfielders in Barry and Milner that prevented the ball from reaching those defenders,and once they left we all know how the defense has been playing.The reason Sunderland are on a roll is due to the players raising their game,their players weren't performing deliberately to get Bruce out.Their players have realized that a new manager has come in ,and will look to replace poor performers,so they are playing better. |
VillaMike
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... K-Block, because MON's style was to have the mids AND the back 4 defend and hope to sneak a goal on the counter. Having the mids play so defensive was cover the for many faults of Collings, Dunne, Warnock, etc. Funny enough, most of the people on this board were critical of those tactics too. But let's not forget that under MON we started the penchant for conceding late silly goals. That hasn't changed, and won't until we swap the back 4 for quality. And that won't happen till the summer. AVFC 2012...survive. |
Damian
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... VillaMike okay, let me be clear: alex mcleish isn't good enough. he proved that at the clowns - relegating them twice, playing some horrible football and it wasn't as if he didn't have enough time and no, it isn't his fault that things go wrong on the pitch, but yet again, it is his fault that he doesn't fix those things that happen week in week out also, saying McLeish out isn't the easy thing - he should never have been given the job in the first place. it isn't easy getting a new manager, but managing a football club, i suspect, isn't easy |
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... Got he impression that McLeish was playing for a draw from the off in the 2nd half. Foot off the gas when the Toon were probably there for the taking. Some good youngsters at Villa & Bent would normally haved buried one of his chances. He's a miserable mananger. Someone with a bit more of an attacking approach would get Villa top 8 at least. |
DanWilson82
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... Firstly in real life people who fail at jobs, don't get employed at bigger, better companies on higher wages. If once you are given a job you fail to meet targets and perform poorly or even worse then you receive warnings and eventually when it becomes clear that you are completely and utterly useless at your job, you are fired. Has Randy/FAT Paul even had a word with Alex Mcleish about his performance so far? Does he have reviews like any normal employee and if he is not under pressure to improve then what exactly are the REAL targets being set for him because he as sure as hell isn't getting us near the european slot Fat Paul told us he required. The whole situation at Aston Villa stinks right now. 3 seasons a go we were FLYING and only complete incompetance riddled throughout all levels could cause such a complete and utter melt down. We are a laughing stock, boring to watch, failing and well on our way to playing championship football next year. A loss to newcastle should be seen as an upset but evena large section of our own fans no longer to see it like that. We have settled for mediocre and are now no better than a Fulham or a Stoke, happy to sit in mid table. This IS NOT the Aston Villa I grew up loving and to be frank I don't really give a f**k anymore whilst we are managed by the manager of Birmingham City and owned by scrooge. Maybe the ghost of Villa past could give mr Lerner a few slaps the tight fisted has been. |
j doyle
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... i think one of the reasons we are so s**te in the formation and style of play is peter grant i know a mate in Norwich and he said that when he was manager there they played with 8 men behind the ball all the time thats why he was f**ked off. can any one tell me why sid or k mac aint the 2nd in command as we have 2 villa through and through men in them with no say it is the loony s running the asylum for sure |
divine_islet
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...Elmo Grub said: Now let me say this,those 3 have been s**t under three successive managers.What have you got to say about that?That defensive record was mainly due to better midfielders in Barry and Milner performing their defensive duties well ,in addition to attacking ones.Now our weak midfielders have exposed our s**tty defenders' lack of defensive ability. |
Advilla
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... Damian You start your post by saying "what can I say".....well how about something positive for once and stop looking through your I hate eck glasses. We played some good stuff today, apart from the first 15mins of the 2nd half when we gave the ball away too easy, I thought we deserved at least a point today. We created the best chances, and if Bent had done what he is paid for we could have been at least 3 or 4-1 up at H.T. They only created 1 clear cut chance today, that was the cisse header in the 2nd half. Both their goals were hopefully balls into the box which fell fortunately to their forwards, and there's the difference, theirs scored ours didn't. Everyone blames AM for everything that goes wrong at villa, it's the players that make the decissions on the pitch you can't blame the manager every time a player miss places a pass, or misses a 1 on 1 the players have to take responsibility for that. There is no doubt the football is improving, and that's some credit to AM and his staff. How the hell can you make footballers out of the work ethic type of player that aresole o'niel left us with. He's doing the right thing with the kids, blooding them a bit at a time, albeit, banan should not be played on the right, he's too one dimensional, keeps coming inside, I also think Gardner has moved in front of banan, he controls the midfield more and always pops up with an effort on goal, had 2 decent chances today at the end. If its true about Ireland, then he's a disgrace AM has given him more support than any of his previous managers including pardew. Having said that, how do these rumours come about, are they real, or just propagander to have another pop at AM, I suspect the later, but I suppose all the negative morose t**ts on this site will use it to suit their argument and believe its true without any evidence. Disappointing result, should have had at least a point, but happy with the way we are trying to play. UP THE VILLA |
VillaMike
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... And let's not forget that Villa are having an unprecedented form of bad luck. For instance Bent and Gards and Clark had real chances from poor Toon defending that should have been goals (and would have greatly changed the mood on this board BTW) but either the keeper stepped up or the player didn't finish. Unfortunately Villa ALWAYS pay for their defensice gaffes, either by pure stupidity OR deflected balls, freak own goals, wicked finishes by opposing players. They say you make your own luck, but Villa do seem to be having crazy bad luck this season on top of the self-inflicted messes. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Agrotis, That is my biggest problem with the Clown, his thinking that keeping hold of the ball is by bringing on a big bulky centre forward. Maybe he should watch how Swansea play. You can Keep the ball is by getting all your players comfortable on the ball, being able to bass it from the back through the midfield to supply the forwards. I would say, Hutton, Dunne and Warnock (three out of our back four) do not have this ability to pass the ball with comfort. Petrov just does not have the legs for off the ball movement, or the long range passing to open the game. Without Heskey in the first half we actually matched Newcastle for possession, but in the second half the two major factors that turned the game where, sitting way to deep, and substituting Ireland, both of which the Clown could have controlled. |
divine_islet
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... Yes,Steveo,i didn't know that ,as i only watched the second half on and off ,due to an unusually poor internet connection,and bad quality streaming to boot. |
Damian
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... Advilla i dont hate him. i dont know him. i'd even go so far as to suggest, he is probably a very nice guy but that doesn't make him good enough to manage aston villa |
villasparton
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... The only thing we did wrong today was hold the ball on the left, Keane was screaming for the ball, which had open play on the right. We were unlucky as we should have had it sown up in the first half. Keane and Ireland were strong again today, our defence looked stronger with a fitter Cuellar, Dunne looked a liabilty this time. |
K-Block
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... Four crucial games coming up after Man City at home. As we're probably not going to get anything from that One! Wigan. Away Blackburn. Away Bolton. Home Fulham. Home It will be intriguing to see how many points we can get from those four games. These games could prove crucial to our survival. |
VillaMike
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... Damian: I agree that AM isn't good enough for the long tern. I hope and expect we'll get interest from a better manager once funds are available after Heskey, Beye, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Petrov, (and those who have already left) etc. have all moved on. Our financial bind (thanks to MON, Lerner, and Faulkner) was a reality. Insane weekly wages! But one has to wonder if the trio of managers last season (if you include GH's health break) couldn't "figure out" our defending, and AM can't "figure out" our defending, then just MAYBE it's the players who can't do it. Until AM (or whomever) can make real roster changes, it won't change. I have yet to read anywhere of a "quality" manager who was willing to work under our requirements this season. And when you mix in senior players on insane wages who can't be moved, it's an almost impossible job for a manager. If you're aware of someone I'm not, I'd love to hear it. I wouldn't know what to do if I were AM. Clark is still a very raw talent who is a risk to give away a dangerous free kick or a pen in any match. I've never had much faith in Lichaj (at least when watching him play international football), and Herd (the most promising IMO) is still injured. Anyone calling for AMs head really needs to have a realistic replacement in mind, otherwise it's just blather. |
Damian
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... According to Collymore it is 4 or 5 players back chatting with McLeish today. Seems like they are starting to have enough of it too .. |
DanH
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... Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!! Unlucky Villa tw@ts! Who's your next f**king messiah eh? Your going to need one. Your only decent player (Keane) is leaving you and you'll deserve all you get. Up yours and see you next season!  |
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... Well said Dan Wilson! I remember having a conversation a few months ago with a work mate and I said as it stands there are only three managers in the league I think worse than AMC and now two of them been replaced(Bruce, Kean and Warnock) by better and will improve because of it (Sunderland already have) When are we going to wake up and realise it just will not work under AMC and if he's lost the confidence of his players as well as his supporters you can see us going down this year!! Simon Grayson anyone? |
VillaMike
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... Because otherwise it's pontificating. The easiest thing to do in this world is to complain. But if you present a solution, it can possibly help move things forward. But blind solutions ("AM out!") don't do anything. I've looked at the list of managers who were available at the time and don't see anyone who's record would indicate they would have done great things given our circumstances (and WITHOUT the ability to make massive changes this season). If you know of one, please let me know. |
Advilla
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... Damian I don' hate him nor like him, he would not have been in my top ten choices for manager, but I like to think I am man enough to give credit where credits due, as I say I am not pro nor anti AM, but I am a realist. Sometimes you can only work with what you have, let's face it o'niel, didn't leave us with much, apart from the kids, which thankfully he had Nothing to do with, that's why he never even watched them never mind played them. It's also funny how everyone is saying good old Ireland, when a few months ago everyone on here wanted him shot.......DOL was right......f****e!! I'd go further and say two faced s**theads UP THE VILLA |
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... Sorry if it's already been said but Collymore on the radio saying that 4 or 5 players including Bent were openly questioning AMc and basically having a pop at him. All the Villa callers and most that were at the game are saying how bad we are. Where are all the smug positive posters robl robh etc? |
mon 4-5-1
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... Damian - funny that, with Houllier it was at the start of the season, where he singled out the trouble makers and come end of the season you saw a up turn in our fortunes once they where bought into line. With this Clown, he has tried to cover up the cracks by trying to keep certain senior players happy, whilst hanging out the youngsters to dry. Now come the end of the season, I can see real disruption in the dressing room, fingers being pointed by the Clown to the players , and the players to the manager, whilst we plummit down the league. The Droyd - as you can see, the Clown of a manager is now having trouble with certain players, so it was not all down to Houllier would you not agree? |
runtingz
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... I am niether pro or anti mcliesh just a villa fan I also thought the penny had dropped after the last game and that mcliesh finally realised that the only way to progress as a club is by playing football mainly on the ground .... clearly i was wrong and i lost count of the amount of times shay pummled the ball up front which rarely results in anything but the opposition regaining possesion . Aston Villa will not move forward niether will any young talent progress properly until we appoint a football man for our football club |
Damian
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... VillaMike the thing is, we are not making the decisions. the majority accept now that we are going nowhere with this manager and that if we are to try and move forward, he needs to go as for looking at lists of managers that were available what you saw was a list of managers that had managed in the premier league and having that as pre-requisite of the job was the first mistake you dont get managers with premier league experience that will take you forward very often so having that is just dooming the decision to failure as for suggesting a manager - i've no idea. it isn't my job to keep up to date with managers throughout europe, but i'd have thought that a club playing in the biggest league in the world would, so maybe we might see something positive from them |
Carl Thomas
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... We have to accept AMC will not be sacked until the summer at the very earliest. Part of the problem is Lerner's pride: coming from a family where success is paramount, as well as generating personal income for one fifth of a decade- sacking AMC would be highlighting his personal incompetence. Sugar coated by his fathers rich's he has had an easy ride; it is much easier to let AMC carry on- finish in the top 15- and blame the state of the premiership. Unfortunately this is the nature of the premiership and I'm sure Blackburn, Bolton and Everton fans are equally frustrated. Think of all the turmoil in the past at Newcastle and Sunderland- they have been through relegations and still come through. What we have as a club is longevity; we will be in the upper echelons again but maybe not for a while. KEEP THE FAITH. |
Damian
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... mon 4-5-1 Houllier had it right on so many levels that many are just starting to see it now there is a reason he had won so much silverware in his career and quality wants to play for him |
mon 4-5-1
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... If it is true and it is 4-5 players then, with the record this Clown has as manager his days are well and truely numbered. r0bb0 - as someone who constantly said we should keep hold of the Clown until the end of the season, here is one clear reason why he should go now, someone who will if not already has lost the dressing room. Does the Clown not realise, he is not dealing with the same Calibre of players when he managed the Clowns down the road. He is managing a much higher calibre of player, which actually requires more astute tactics and man management skills. |
xandeh
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... I don't want Mcleish axed until I know 100% Steve Bruce has a job somewhere. I dont have one ounce of trust in this board. |
Agrotis
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...And let's not forget that Villa are having an unprecedented form of bad luck Horse s**te. We are making bad individual mistakes at key points in games, and mostly in defence. We are where are because we aint good enough, simple as. You make you own luck in games. We dont get any, because we dont put enough into games, both individually and tacticly, however good it looks. Anybody whom has played the game, will know exactly what i mean. |
MArc4villa
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... Give Newcastle the first goal under the LUCK category as the ball fell to Ba's feet. But 2nd goal was our poor defending once again. Hutton does nothing to stop the cross from Guiterrez (who tore Hutton apart all day as I predicted in my earlier post), then Dunne takes a swipe at the ball, misses it and Cisse ends up with a beauty of a strike that no goalkeeper could have saved. So week in, week out, our poor defending cost us the game. If it's not the worse defender in the premier league Warnock, it is Dunne or Hutton. And I have to blame AMC for not benching those players. Also, Petrov and Clark were horrible in the middle today, and brought nothing to the game. Gardner and Bannan were much better. And sad to hear that Ireland told AMC to FOff, but I hope he apologises and not banned from playing again as he is showing his class. Gardner should start as well and get bloodied for next season. We are 13th and in trouble. We cannot afford those defensive slip-ups any longer and AMC must modify his tactics and play the players at their strongest positions. That means Clark should be in the middle of the defence with Cuellar, and he has to find someone to replace Warnock. Start Gardner and Bannan alongside Ireland and Petrov, and put Bent upfront with Keane. The latter can be replaced by Agbonlahor or Nzogbia or Albrighton depending on 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formations. Seriously something has to change or we will be in for a relegation fight soon. BTW, Randy is in Indiianapolis for the Superbowl and could not give a sh!t about our loss today. |
Agrotis
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...The Droyd - as you can see, the Clown of a manager is now having trouble with certain players, so it was not all down to Houllier would you not agree? Oneil before him aswell. People forget that it was under Oneil, when Warnock first started throwing his toys out of the pram, and there were rumblings of discontent between MoN and Dunne. amongst others. |
Agrotis
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...brendan rogers please Until we have a new owner, or Randy discovers football again, we forget about people like Rogers or Lambert. This really is as good as its going to be. |
Bahamavillan
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... Truth is, if we get a new manager next season, there is every reason for the future to be bright. Next season I want the team to be: Given New right back Dunne Clarke New left back Herd Bannan Gardner N'Zog Bent Gabby All we need to bring in is a right back and a left back. And who knows, maybe a new manager can get something better out of Hutton. He's not a lost cause, like I think Warnock is. But the reality is, this won't happen. As long as the chairman is in charge, he will probably keep Mcleish. He won't want to pay him compensation to leave the club. It's a real shame because, as Lambert and Rodgers have shown this season, you don't need to have bags on money to play good quality football. I just don't understand why Lerner didn't consider bringing in an up-and-coming manager to stay here for the long haul and bring the young players through. As long as we play good football, I think that's what most fans want here. Our youngsters shining under the right manager. |
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... alex Mcliesh has know idea with tactics he plays clarke a defender in centre mid when u got barry on the bench get him out or he will get us relagated like he did the blues last season 2 midlands clubs i two years |
mon 4-5-1
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... Agrotis - the only difference between Houllier and O'Neil is that they were O'Neil's players - he bought them - , where as Houllier was stuck with them from the moment he walked through the doors, without even having a pre-season to sort out the squad. The Clown on the other hand has had a pre-season. It looks like he is having trouble with the likes of Bent, Nzogbia, Ireland, all flair players, and most definitely not players we would like to leave the club. He seems to be getting on really well with the likes of Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton,Heskey and Petrov, exactly type of players we would like to see leave the club. |
VillaMike
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... Damian: So in your last two posts you condone the inmates running the asylym and play the "I'm just a blogger" card? As stated, certain players are a major reason for our misfortune this season. Yet you commend them running roughshot over the current manager and think another one (especially unproven) one would fare any different. Heck, look at how GH was treated. It's the players at the moment! And since you wanted MON out when he could "only take us so far", you weren't a fan of GH, you felt Martinez was "unimaginative" (imagine if we were playing like Wigan this season), I get the impression a "surprise manager" from Europe wouldn't have a long leash with you. Or would you take the same record under this "surprise manager" and strictly focus on the positives under him. Maybe you should use your holidays to seek out the unknown saviour. Since Villa, Fulham, QPR, Sunderland, Newcastle, all seem to be stuck in the retread manager mess. I'm sure they could all use an advisor. Basically, unless Sir Alex is managing Villa, we're not running things right in your opinion? Which gets back to my original question. You watch a lot of football. To which "non-retread" manager would you turn the reigns over and supply enough rope where you were glass half-full instead of always glass half-empty if his first season was like this one? And secondly, if Martinez relagates Wigan this season, would you welcome him to Villa next season? |
CMO
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... We lack drive in the middle, we lack goals from the middle. We have a young centre back (clarke), we have a young centre midfielder (gardener). I don't know about this decision, seems a bit of a fcuking tricky one. How much is this tool being paid? As much as I want Bannan to be a great player, so far he just hasn't done it. I know he hasn't started enough to judge fairly but, he is so light-weight, doesn't work hard off the ball and tries hollyood passes far too much. Things have improved attacking wise but it's being instigated by the one player in the squad who doesn't play under elks influence and he's going soon. Elk is a loser, we will go down under his management. |
Agrotis
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...brendan rogers please I think its sink or swim time, in that its time to trust our younger players ahead of the Dunnes and Huttons. If we get relegated from doing so, then so be it. Licaj or Herd in for Hutton, Clarke and Baker in for Warnock and Dunne. Gardner for Petrov, Albrighton for Nzogbia..... |
Agrotis
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...The Clown on the other hand has had a pre-season. It looks like he is having trouble with the likes of Bent, Nzogbia, Ireland, all flair players He had the same issues at Small Heath, so its definately something he does, rather than the players. A good manager holds his hands up when things go wrong, and defends his players, Mcliesh simply blames his players....even though some of them are s**te  |
Damian
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... VillaMike i've no idea what you are specifically referring to when you say 'inmates running the asylum' but i am just a blogger as for running the club in the right way and the man to do the job, i really dont know who it should be. i know if given the time and money and resources to produce a list, i could, but it would take a few months and quite a lot of money - it isn't just something that can be done by looking on the bbc pages across europe but our owner and ceo are not interested in doing it the right way. if they were, they wouldn't have appointed mcleish, let along made premier league experience a pre-requisite of getting the job so i guess, if your 'inmates running the asylum' quote is about the owner and the ceo, i dont condone them, but what can supporters do? lerner owns the club 100% but he doesn't care. as for GH - i think you will find i was his only fan. he was the wrong choice from the beginning for exactly the reason why he had to leave and i write that at the time, but in terms of what he was doing when managing the club, this site was the only one that publicly supported what he was doing and the only one saying he should get more time |
runtingz
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... if it does come to getting a new manager for next season i hope the board has learned that its not about getting a high profile name but a manager that can get us playing passing football ..as that is the way all successful teams play these days and is the way forward ... any other approach will just keep our club in the dark ages |
taglor
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... Oh well, at least AMc thought we played 'excellent'?!?!?!?!??!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16895306 |
VillaMike
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... Agrotis: I agree that you make your own luck to some extent but you have to agree that this season (despite our own mistakes) we're been terribly unlucky. The Herd red card v. West Ham in a game we were cruising, the late loss to Aresenal, the late draw at Sunderland, last week v/ QPR. I could go on and on but 12 points out of those matches and we'd be near Newcastle's position. And we haven't had the luck those teams had against us, when we were playing matches we (like they) didn't deserve points from. |
VillaMike
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... Damian: "According to Collymore it is 4 or 5 players back chatting with McLeish today. Seems like they are starting to have enough of it too ..." Implies you are OK with them doing it. In my opinion, the players should be looking in the Mirror. Backchatting a manager who is telling you to properly defend a cross, or play the ball on the ground isn't OK in my book. |
runtingz
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... i was one that didnt like GH's approach and never had him down as a manager that got teams playing expansive football .. i hope we dont make a simular appointment next time around ... brendan rogers and the like clearly play a fantastic brand of football that would have our players florishing and the fans of there seats ... |
divine_islet
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...runtingz said: Can you please elaborate on that? |
Damian
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... VillaMike i dont think i am okay with it. there has to be respect for the manager. but at the exact same time, that respect shouldn't be a given - it has to be something he earns if it is true, it would suggest he has lost the dressing room and when that happens there is no saving the manager - it is just a matter of time if it has happened, it is just the players giving up on him too |
TrueVillan
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... GH had us all nervous, trying to get us to play football, but it was coming good. the players hated him for the tough training and type of training, i.e. ball to feet, players such as Dunne and Collins very vocal. well, they apparently love training now, then again, how hard can it be to practice hoofing a ball for an hour or two! Rumour has it we are bringing in Jonny Wilkinson to get our defender to kick it further and higher! |
Headologist
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... Why does this manager think Ireland is a wrong 'un and Whorenock isn't? Tells you a lot doesn't it Msr Houllier marked Whorenocks card and put him where he belongs [in with the kids] and Muckleish reinstates him. I should care who we get next, but much more important is that this eejit goes |
Damian
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... From Charles N'Zogbia on Twitter First time in my life im not happy playing football !!! |
VillaManCan
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... N'Zogbia just tweeted its the first time in his life he isnt enjoying playing footy. Well thats the end of him. MCLEISH OUT FFS!!! |
runtingz
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... divine_islet I dont put GH in the class of a wenger or even a brendan rogers for his style of play ... i remember him at liverpool and while they had some fantastic attacking players at the time it wasnt exactly pure pass and move football like the managers i have mentioned ... i also remember that his buying skils was hit and miss and the best players that played for pool dueing his time there actually came from there accadamy |
Agrotis
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... Seems the players have now had enough with the tactics Nzogbia has just tweeted this:- First time in my life im not happy playing football !!! |
VillaMike
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... AM isn't going anywhere this season. It's pointless to debate it. Especially if the players backchatting him are the ones leaving in the summer (or headcases, like Ireland). And he'll be here and be given funds in the summer IF we're not relegated (God forbid). Fact is, we should be higher up the table and I blame the players far more than the manager for our predicament. We can agree to disagree. I tell myself I'll take a break from reading this blog but (as your tracking stats will confirm) I'm a glutton for punishment I guess. Comes with being a Villa supporter. My only suggestion is since with this season, as you stated, "I think we just have to accept that we all knew this was coming and we really shouldn't be surprised." that you try something new for the month of February and focus your next few match posts on the positives that come from them. I'd also suggest the supporters at VP use this month to give unwavering support and noise (like the supporters who attend away matches) for the next few home matches and just see what happens. Just give it a try for February, and see what happens. And if a youngster makes a mistake, sing a supporting song for him. Of all things, this team lacks real confidence. It's one thing the supporters can actually help inspire. Any player will tell you that. |
sussexsharks
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... Damian and the rest of so called supporters AMC is here for the rest of the season we just need to stay in the Division harsh cold light of the day that is what we must do. Not seen this lad Stevens or Baker so would they be a better bet than Warnock I said on Wed Clark looks like a CD playing in MF and should be at CB We need to stop moaning and being negative get behind the team I am backing AMC even though in the Summer I wanted Lambert to take over but I was vilified by some of these so called Experts who post comments on this site I was told quote "The job is too big for him" still think that do we |
VillaMike
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... RE: N'Zogbia's Tweet -- Maybe it's the manager, maybe it's results, maybe it's the bad luck, maybe it's all of it. But if any of you think the barrage of negativity in blogs, forums, and ESPECIALLY AT VP isn't part of the equation, you're grossly mistaken. Whether you like AM or not, do your part and get behind the team! UTV. |
Damian
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... VillaMike AM isn't going anywhere this season. It's pointless to debate it. Especially if the players backchatting him are the ones leaving in the summer (or headcases, like Ireland).it is now n'zogbia, one of his signings, saying he isn't happy playing football, but i dont understand why you say it is pointless, just after you wrote Anyone calling for AMs head really needs to have a realistic replacement in mind, otherwise it's just blather.where you are actually promoting it my hope it that he is removed. when that happens, then i can start to, hopefully, look forward. if the club do the right thing this time that is |
mon 4-5-1
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... runtingz - what class or track record did Brendan Rogers have prior to this season? |
Albri-12
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... This defeat is the hardest to take in ages. Just watching the game I got the feeling the players don't want to play for us or AM, then after the rumours of mass up set is sa d. The future looks so bleek. AM has to go right now. I don't care who we get but the players hate him. Now Ireland won't ever play for us again and zoggy hates life. Martin laursen said he'd love to manage villa. Or stick kmac back in charge. The players would play for him |
Damian
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... VillaMike you are not wrong. behaviour breeds behaviour but if you are going to throw that card about you also have to accept that it all started with appointing him. he was the wrong man from the beginning and not just because he relegated his previous team twice the bad feeling started when he was appointed and when the club did it, they showed a complete lack of respect to supporters of aston villa and if they knew anything about football, they'd have known that |
Heroes & Villans
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... Cant be bothered to write about all the negatives about McLeish, we all know them but the stories about the players back chatting makes me mad. Same thing happened under houllier. Not only are the players not that good but they seem to have attitude! Masssive overhaul of playing staff and management needed. Tried to play better today, especially 1st half but it is only down to Keane, once he has gone it will be dreadfull again. |
Agrotis
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...And he'll be here and be given funds in the summer IF we're not relegated Ive just seen a pink pig fly across the room  If you believe that, then i have some double glazing and a new gas supplier that might interest you. Just send the check in the post Lerner has stated that we have to fund transfer fees by selling and triming wages. The manager has stated that the wages ARE STILL out of control.... So where are these mythical funds coming from? |
cuddy_sotc
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... whats all this im hearing about ireland and petrov arguing with the manager on the pitch |
Damian
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... I also dont think he will be here next season. If the club were certain he would be here next season, they wouldn't be phoning season ticket holders asking if they are going to renew. |
Stephen Jay Hawkings
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... I don't understand Twitter to be honest. I follow N'Zogbia's tweets as well as most of the other Villa players, can't find what he tweeted, yet I see 2 replies on his page, basically slagging him off, that HE retweeted. Why would he retweet abuse? Am I too old to understand all this new-fangled s**t? |
paulB
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... There are few FACTS infootball that cannot be disputed. 1. If you can keep the ball for 60mins in a match it only gives the opposition 30mins in which to score. We do not keep the ball for anytime whatsoever choosing instead to hoof it forward for a non exisitant target man thereby giving possesion away. 2. The primary job of a full back is to try and prevent at all costs opposition players crossing the ball into our penalty area, something we fail to do on a regular basis. 3. Substitutions are made to replace injured players or to enhance a tactical change. Can anyone tell me what Heskey actually brings to our side. To bring on Bannan who really isnt premiership quality..to take off two players who are said to be at their best since joining us. If the rumour is right about Ireland its another terrible indictment on our beloved club ...there is nothing together about villa these days and all this division will lead only one way. Time that Lerner got a rip of things. We will soon be sponsored by comical Bisto..we are becoming a laughing stock !! |
runtingz
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... mon 4-5-1 the reason i like brendan roger so much is because he is working on less of a budget that mcliesh and is playing far advanced football than us and most other teams. for me football , winning football starts with philosophy and style of play ..only then will a team become powerfull unless they have 100's of millions to spend ... imo if we bring in a true football man we will become the club we should be weather we have loads of money or not |
Agrotis
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...xperts who post comments on this site I was told quote "The job is too big for him" I remember people saying that they would not touch Alan Pardew with a barge pole. Well i wouldent, but i still think he should of been considered. Lambert would be top of my list. I cant put my finger in it, but there is something about his demeanour that says "top six manager". Would not come here though. One, because he is probably on a lot of others lists, and two, you have to have the same ambition as your chairman, for things to work, and Lerners is Dollars rather than silverware. Well worth trying though |
Damian
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... Stephen Jay Hawkings he has since deleted the Tweet ... but that means nothing, it is out there now ... |
Fatkv
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...i i dont know him. i'd even go so far as to suggest, he is probably a very nice guy me neither but I hate his football and I doubt he is a. Ice bloke the way he has to blame everyone else His third party to layers are nothing to do with him when it goes wrong |
Advilla
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... Albright 12 K mac was in charge last season at Newcastle with better players still at the club.......what happened He is also still there beside AM. He knew the clubs agenda that's why he went back to the reserves People asking about Brendan Rodgers.....he was chased out of reading a couple of years ago for being s**t Truth is no one decent would take this job at present at least AM took it, otherwise I don't think anyone would!! Coldly more spreading more s**t to get callers on Talk s**te, ...pot, kettle, black. He s**t on every club he was at! |
Fatkv
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... Do you really think they will pay up another manager contract especially if we are still in the prem thanks to other sides |
Agrotis
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...Time that Lerner got a rip of things. We will soon be sponsored by comical Bisto..we are becoming a laughing stock !! Leadership begins at the top, but our leader is never there, and is not even interested. Hence no direction on or off the pitch. Get ready for Uncle Doug putting his oar in before to long, because he can not be happy. Tight old git, and a disaster, but he does care about the club, and at 90 or so, still attends more games than the absent yank. |
clevelandvillian
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... At one point during the second half Keane was having a go at one or two for hoofing instead by playing it on the ground and trying to play. To all those on here who didn't want Keane for these few matches, have suddenly gone very quiet. He has been in the center of most of the good moves during the last few matches. ...and I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw McClueless laughing at something 6 or 7 minutes from time. Real f#ck#ng funny you tosser |
TrueVillan
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... it just gets better! if AM is losing the dressing room we are F ucked! we still do not have enough points, and could still be that surprise team that did not look in danger, but got dragged in! where is that clueless, yank T wat lerner?! God, never thought I would miss old Deadly, no way he would have allowed this manager to drag us down like this! |
Agrotis
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...they wouldn't be phoning season ticket holders asking if they are going to renew. See the club has its priorities right. Fleece more cash out of season ticket holders in return for piss all, other than gas and air. Our club is a joke. |
VillaMike
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... To summarize. It's more the Players than Eck who are at fault for our current predicament. Players won't be moved out till the summer. All of the managers in play before his appointment are around or below us in the table. I'm not aware of any "exciting" manger who was willing to take the role under our current financial limitations. I'm not convinced many of you would give such "exciting" manager much rope if he got off to a poor start b/c he couldn't motivate or change our overpaid, 1 style, old-regime players. If you are upset and want changes, speak with you wallet by not attending matches. But, if you attend a match, for the sake of our youngsters who are getting their first real play in the league, please SUPPORT the players b/c the one thing you can do is inspire confidence and energy with your voices. Negativity at VP Villa Park breeds losses. |
mon 4-5-1
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... runtingz - we both speaking from the same page in relation to how the game should be played. If you look at Rogers track record it's not as impressive as some would like to think. Having said that, I would be more than happy to see him at Villa Park; Houllier on the other hand had a track record of winning things, and playing the game in the right manner, and a reputation of picking up a bargain here and there. You only have to have read what some of the players who have played under him (Carragher and Gerrard) wrote about him to realise what a high regard they had for him as a manager. Comparing Rogers, or stating he is of a higher class than Houllier makes you sound like The Droyd, who actually rates McLeish as a much better manager than Houllier, when there relative track records are light years apart. |
tom morris
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... from a newcastle fan - villa we're much the better team in the first half, they had control of midfield with ireland bossing things in the middle and n'zogbia looking very good going forward. our defence looked very vulnerable to the movement of darren bent and barring two fine saves from krul we would been a couple of goals behind at the break. i thought ye humped long balls up the pitch too much and looked very decent when ye kept it on the floor.at times,there was flashes of o'neill's aston villa, quick and dangerous on the break and solid at the back. Some bad luck combined with the total incompetence of mcleish (taking off ireland first and bringing on heskey!!!) cost villa the points. btw warnock is a disaster in defence |
B64life
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... I can't understand y this punk keeps playing Clark in mid, when Gardner sit on the bench, as for bannon I see y he's on the bench, he doesn't work hard off the ball, he always looking for the quick long ball pass n gives it away wen a simply pass will do,n I think he's to light weight, what happen to he's threat off dropping defenders who aint doing their jobs right he promised us after the man city game, they have played every game since! Tactics! What tactics he couldn't evan spell the word, we have to get this jock out by any means |
Agrotis
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...Negativity at VP Villa Park breeds losses. Never a truer word said. And exactly the reason 99.9% of us have had enough. Randy HAS to go... |
runtingz
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... ''Negativity at VP Villa Park breeds losses'' I agree compleatly and i am pretty sure every single blogger wants us to win the prem and domnate european football ,, support is not in question on here .. this is a place to air opinion .. but when it comes to a game we all want villa to win. the thing is we cant just pretend everythng is ok at the club as clearly it isnt. |
gmjvilla
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... Enough really is enough... just watched AMc post match interview with BBC and he says the Villa players should be inspired by the Newcastle players... Are you fcuking kidding me... How bout the players being inspired by the badge, the manager and the kings gold they are pocketing week in week out. That's all the motivation they should need not the bloody opposition. Same as DanH is still pissed off by some Villa fans berating Newcastle's relegation 2 years ago, maybe AMc hasn't forgiven us for ridiculing the Blue Noses going down twice under his stewardship and he's here for revenge... That's the only way I can see reason in his failure to address the back four... Seriously!!!! The only positives I can draw from today's proceedings... 1) Robbie Keane. God help us when he goes 2) We looked interested in the first half 3) We didn't get hammered 6-0 again |
K-Block
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... The equation is simple. It appears the players don't want to play for him or his style of management, or how he wants to play is not working = Get a new manager. |
mon 4-5-1
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... VillaMike - you seem to be coming out with every excuse for the manager. So apart from being relegated twice what was the criteria for picking this Clown as a manager in your opinion? We talk about financial constraints, but let's not forget, he spent: . Nzogbia = 10 million . Hutton = 3 Million . Given = 3 million . Jenas = on loan until end of the season on 45k a week . Robbie Keane = 500k so can you tell me how many clubs in the bottom half to mid-table of the premiership have spent more? |
B64life
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... Also if it true about Ireland then I for one am all for it, the way I c it is if nobody's listening to the fans at the club they have to listen to the players.......n if it is true then I think we all should follow suit n say f**k OFF! Mc fool |
VillaMike
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... Damian. You're insufferable. It's part manager, mostly the players. If you can't see that, there's no hope for changing the tenor of this blog. Good luck with that. Sadly, you too are part of the problem but fail to see it. May your glass be half-empty! I'm not sure you'd know what do do with a full one. #AVFCBlog-BringingTheBoostoVillaPark...Helpful. |
j doyle
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... we have to many footballers at the club who have been taught the game the right way for the liking of mcmuppet they wont just hoof the ball they want to play all the young players want to play football but in there places they have for the last 10 years he brings on kids for 10 to 30 mins and asks them to play where they never have then slates them this is not what a real manager of men does he blames every one but himself . this is what a coward does and thats what we have in charge . ireland told mcmuppet a few home truths about his love child Mutton ireland was sick of covering someone who cannot deffend ,who cannot stop crosses . and ireland and a few others asked mcmuppet why this clown never gets blamed for all the crosses that come from his side . i can see the playing side like the supporters into the ones who know and want to play proper football and the hoofer's at the club and the supporters are split into 2 half's ,the one who follow like sheep at villa park and put up with all the dross no matter what . and the fans who really care about the villa and want to see football played like ngog and ireland and keene and bannan and co where do you stand |
divine_islet
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...runtingz said: I would not place GH in the same category as Wenger nor Rodgers,as he isn't as good as Wenger and is certainly better than Rodgers,any day.He had the right philosophy for success,and he had the right plan as well,which was to dump the useless players and replace them with quality players,train the players well,and keep them fit.He has got good contacts across Europe,and had loaned Walker in,bought Bent and Makoun - all quality players.Cabaye would have been a villa player today if GH was here.He actually gave the youth a chance to play,and if he hadn't given them that chance to show what they could do,then Gerrard would not be who he is today. |
runtingz
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... mon 4-5-1 fairplay regarding your opinion on GH and your right in he did win some cups at liverpool but i never liked his style of play and didnt think he did as well as he should have with liverpool .. the players respect him because they where young talented kids going of the rails off field and GH got a hold of them and got them to knuckle down .... brendan is a young talented manager .. my lad played under him at youth level at chelski and the only words he used to shout at the players was two touch for the ninety minutes .. i just want some of that in my club because i know where that type of football can take us . |
the league
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... Do the honorable thing go now,and take the Faulkner with you,things are going to get worse,never known such goings on over last couple of years,we've become a laughing stock. |
monkeyman
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... DIVINE im a gh hater the bloke was a joke appointment,never cared about our club was dated with his style of football and i think wed be bottom 3 if he was manager now FACT. |
Damian
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... VillaMike You're insufferable. It's part manager, mostly the players. If you can't see that, there's no hope for changing the tenor of this blog. Good luck with that. Sadly, you too are part of the problem but fail to see it. May your glass be half-empty! I'm not sure you'd know what do do with a full one. #AVFCBlog-BringingTheBoostoVillaPark...Helpful.you think it is mostly down to the players? honestly, is that what you think? you cant see any links with what is happening this season with what happened to the last club this manager managed? you think it is just a coincidence? if you think it is mostly down to the players then on that basis you could put alex mcleish in at manchester city and he'd be doing just as well as mancini or better still, you could give mcleish the manchester united job and he would have got his team back from 3-0 today it isn't about if i can see something - clear as day it is about you not understanding something. the most important person at a football club is the manager. we have a muppet and we are playing like that and even now, after the players are telling him to 'f**k off' and others are publicly writing how unhappy they are, you still seem to defend him given - international hutton - international dunne - international petrov - international ireland - international clark - international bannan - international bent - international keane - international it isn't down to them. it is down to how this manager sets out his team. it is down to what he doesn't work on. it is down to him preferring not to lose than to win. these are not new things. this is the alex mcleish way |
VillaMike
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... MON-4-5-1: Financial constraints meant he had to sell-to-buy. Which we did. The only signing I can really criticize is Hutton. And if ANYBODY on this board knows of a manager (that you really liked and would have honestly dealt with any 1st year issues till he could revamp the squad) that would have taken the job as presented this summer, please do post his name here. It it what it is for this season. Your want to slag off Lerner and Faulkner for their lack of leadership, and their mistakes, have at it. Speak with your wallet. But don't bring negative drivel to VP where it does nothing to help the players, and if anything hurts. Think our better away record is a fluke? Think again. Negativity breeds negativity. Negativity prolongs poor form. If we go down this year it will be everyone's fault, including the boo-birds at VP. |
Bahamavillan
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... Stan Collymore now reporting several players, INCLUDING our club captain Stylian Petrov, argued with Mcleish. Stephen Ireland, as we know, told Mcleish to f**k off twice (!!), and now N'Zog has made that tweet. Things are not rosy. But it does make me smile a little bit. Wake up Randy and sack both the gingers at the club. Let our coaching staff guide us until the end of the season and go for Rodgers or Lambert for next season. |
John Salter
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... Well the game finished hours ago and it's ruined the day and tomorrow....... The odd thing about this manager is that you can see he wants to win, is passionate on the sideline far more than the corpse GH, but hasn't got the ability to change it when things are going wrong. We've got the players but they have to play in the right place, for example Clarke has to play in the centre of defence, Gabby should be up front, Bent just isn't a lone striker and today proved it again. Gardner has got to start maybe with Bannan because poor old Petrov hasn't got the pace, skill or stamina any more. Heskey has to be let go when his contract expires, what has he ever done? Why bring him on when we're up against it? Will AMc ever get it right at Villa? He's had over six months now and pre season and we're going backwards, falling, falling, falling down the table. It's not just the on field tactics, he's let too many talented players go out on loan but overall it's the owners responsibility to either; A. Kick AMc up the colon. B. Replace him and we know the arrogant git won't do that because he went against so many of us when he appointed him. There were positives today though and we gave Newcastle a game before the changes happened and they were lucky to score against the run of play with a flukey goal. Doesn't make me feel any better though because it's the result that counts! Right where's the vodka? |
Vijayd
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... It's really worrying, we play well sometimes but what a mess! I wonder what our board are thinking, AM won't be sacked, he will be given some money to spend in the summer and then let's see where we are in January next year, the summer of 2013 is probably when AM will leave |
Agrotis
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... Message for Randy of the missing.... JOHN GREGORY AWAITS YOUR CALL.....DO IT NOW, NO TIME TO WASTE. PS YOU DO IT. DONT LEAVE IT TO YOUR SKIVVY, MR FAULKNER. BETWEEN YOU AND ME, I DONT THINK HE IS VERY GOOD YOUR ONCE OBEDIANT BUT NOW SUFFERING AGROTIS |
bobvillian
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... I said on these blogs 6weeks ago that we will go down with the scum replacing us and i see no reason to change my mind after today! |
Agrotis
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...If we go down this year it will be everyone's fault, including the boo-birds at VP I will be blaming fans like you, for accepting everything the club feeds you, and standing for mediocrity. Theres a small club down the road where you might fit in a little better. |
bobvillian
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... We continue to let in goals at a regular rate but the muppet still keeps same defence;whats the use of fringe players if you dont use them. |
sussexsharks
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... Villa Mike !"Negativity breeds negativity. Negativity prolongs poor form. If we go down this year it will be everyone's fault, including the boo-birds at VP." Very true these comments I am getting seriously fed up with some of these dreadful awful negative comments even when we win we have some numpties putting a negative spin on things I fear this will end in tears at VP we support the club not the Manager |
Ryan in Leeds
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... god I'm so angry!!!!!! Angry to be a villa fan enduring this awful situation, angry that the owner felt fit to rip the heart out of our beautiful club Dan h - you sad little nob, I would rather be a proud villa fan than some jumped up, Geordie shore watching, brown ale drinking, ant and dec loving dick head from south shields, or some other s**t hole. This is a low for us, but it shows the difference, we are against the s**t being forced onto us, you lot are the ones looking for the messiahs not us, the reason villa and the whole country laughed our arses of when you dick heads got relegated is cos your a joke, I loved it, loved it when Kevin Meehan came back, Denis wise, sam allardyce, alan shearer all conspired to get you relegated, I hate you Geordie delusionists, you ain't good!!! Were s**t and we were at least as good as you, can't wait to see your bubble burst, I live in Leeds so it ain't far if you want to have this chat face to face, then again you probably can't afford the petrol Get back to your shanty town you little p***k, I will celebrate the next time you go down just the same Laugh in your fat Geordie face!!!!! |
AV33
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... Regarding the reported upset in the camp, SSN's timeline is saying Villa are assessing an injury to Stephen Ireland ??!! A smoke screen from the club perhaps ? I thought today how Robbie Keane has been involved in every good thing that has happened on the pitch since his arrival. Would I be correct in saying he has played a part in every goal scored ? Like quite a few of you, I wonder what we will do when his loan period ends ? |
mon 4-5-1
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... VillaMike - you say the only player you could criticise that the Clown has bought is Hutton, but Nzogbia was another player he bought - our marquee signing for this summer. So he (the manager) would have known what a key role this player would be playing, and yet, this player in his first season playing for a manager that was willing to gamble 10 million pounds on him, has publicly stated he does not like the style of football this Clown is trying to implement. To me this is clear evidence this Clown is out of his depth, because any new signing would surely have shown far more loyalty to the manager who bought IF, of course he believed in what the manager was saying, and believed that there was a actual plan to where the manager/club where heading. Now, this has nothing to do with existing players in the squad, but a McLeish Marquee signing, someone he was after last season when he was managing the Clowns. The point is, it is clearly the manager and not the players (even the ones the Muppet has signed) |
monkeyman
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... nzogbia is a bit of a t**t though he has been very hit and miss,every club he has been to he causes trouble,that said this could be the thing that gets randys attention. i want AM out but at the same time he can take ireland,nzogbia,heskey,hutton.dunne,warnock,petrov and collins with him all the above apart from petrov dont love this club,petrov just isnt good enough its very sad times for our club it has all gone wrong and were poisioned from within,im worried what could happen if the players have turned we might just survive if they keep playing dread to think if they fall out.i dont think lerner will sack AM even if we go down so what can we fans do not alot.UTV |
Hathers
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... There's so many villa fans on here that will accept mediocrity. We are a big club, we deserve more than what we are getting at the moment. It's not just mcleish that's the problem it's the board to. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... Anybody follow the deluded stan collymore on twitter ? The guy is an absolute fool convinced that its the players fault all the time and never the manager Next time he at villa park can we give him some stick ? |
Return of Rowley
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...Negativity breeds negativity. Negativity prolongs poor form. If we go down this year it will be everyone's fault, including the boo-birds at VP So even if we go down you'll still partly obsolve McLeish? Home fans at most games are f****e, it's not just us. Chelsea want their manager out, thousands stayed away from the emirates yesterday in protest at Wenger. Justified? Who is to say? I want that vermin out of my club, before it's too late. I'd take Grayson, ex villan and works on a budget. Talksport did a table on £ to point ratio in the championship and he was 1st. Worth a punt. |
mon 4-5-1
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...John Salter said: John Salter - so you think he has more passion because he is ranting and raving on the touch line and waving his arms around like a monkey? Another manager who used to annoy me on this front was a certain Gary Mgeson, who you could constantly hear ranting and raving from the touch line (from an interview with him, he said it was due to his Army background), but where is Megson now? Ranting and Raving should not make a difference, and should not be necessary if things are done properly on the training pitch. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... And he is always and forever banging on about the 12th man Firstly get a manager the majority are happy with and then you will get outstanding support from the 12th man If you on Twitter give this idiot Stan Collymore some stick he's a compelte and utter know it all when it comes to villa About time this idiot realised we fans know a lot more than him when it comes to Aston Villa |
B64life
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... Villa mike u really think if we go down it's everyones fault! We ain't the ones who sends the team out to play defensive long ball dire football, we don't play players out of positions, give the tactics or any of that, I understand all that negative talk, but how the hell can u see any positive in our whole set is beyond me, were going backwards, sinking like the titanic n u want us to b positive........r u dunce!!! |
TrueVillan
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... I'm sick of this Ginger T wat ruining my weekends! to win a game these days we have to score at least 2 goals, because we are letting at least one in! and there lies the problem, against the half decent teams we dont have the goals in us! We need to get to 35 points from the next 5 games, otherwise it will be a very uncomfortable run in, and dont expect the finish of last year! Lerner and McClueless out |
sussexsharks
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... Return of Rowley I'd take Grayson, ex villan and works on a budget. Talksport did a table on £ to point ratio in the championship and he was 1st. Worth a punt. You mention he is an ex villain he was there for 2 years and played 49 games so can hardly say he has claret n blue blood in his veins. I would stay with AMC as long as he keeps us up and give him to next Christmas and see if there is any improvement Main priority at least 3 New Defenders |
DeadTeamWalking
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... Mike you sound like Stan Collymore Go sit on his wagon with him as deluded as each other |
Ken
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... VillaMike one question would the Blues fans want to swap our t**t manager for theirs? Stop defending the p***k he is useles at best unless your really Randy Loser or Paul F*ckup |
mon 4-5-1
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... monkeyman - only home grown players could possibly be loyal to AVFC. As far as it goes for Petrov, maybe the fact he is on 60k a week (for someone of his ability) may have a big part to play with it. I mean who else would pay 60k a week for Petrov? |
NUFC fan
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... Hey lads, villa are my second team and I'm dissapointed of the style of football that mcleish is bringing to villa park. The majority of the attacks were based on big hoof balls upfield... a draw was a fair result and tbh the tactics of mcleish lost you it today... As a non biased (skysport) view, what chance do you reckon newcastle stand of breaking into the top 6 come the end of the season? I remember Villa nearly did it three seasons ago and everton a few before that... Hope your fortunes change, clubs like villa and nufc deserve to be in the top 10 at the very least |
daveavfc
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... What has happened to our club, MON went because of randy being a tight git look where we are now. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... Mike the majority are always right And you are a very tiny minority who is very wrong |
Old McParland
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... I have read many negative comments and i would like to know how old some of you villa fans are including you damian ,i get down hearted myself at times when results go wrong but its the premership were in and its a difficult place to be i have seen it all since following villa highs lows and the inbetweensalso but have always tried to give support and see optimism even when realy pissed off .Some say look at MON with sunderland admitadly he is on a very fine run but its his first period in there and could easily go wrong after a while were if mcliesh can get us through this storm may well come good next year Its not just mcliesh who is in the firing line but houlier was and also mon towards the latter end of his reighn .So give mcliesh at least a full season at least i saw him bollocking the players even bent for not getting in the box soon enough for one superb cross in first period.At least he showed emotions unlike GH who i accepted at the timeAll this chopping and changing wont bring any better results the players are good enough but sometinmes are not commited enough or on the same wave length.Today we did compeat with the toonies and fully deserved a point at least but its gone now so get over it and see what the next game brings most likely another loss against city ,But if this is the club you truly follow then stay behind it and accept the situation untill it turns around like things always do in life eventualy.And befor anyone losses their RAG when replying to my heart fealt comments remember i am a very elderly senior citizen and wouldappreciate any comments back being of a palitable nature.So fire away lads if you need to but i will folow the Villa come what may its like your wedding vows for better or worse LOL at least to me it is. UP THE VILLA ALWAYS |
monkeyman
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... mon 451 i do think petrov cares but today he legs went at 60 mins,thats when gardner should have come on,i just dont think we have honest hard working players like we did in milner and barry |
mon 4-5-1
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... NUFC fan - I think you guys have got a fair chance as long as you key players stay fit. Cabeye, Tiotte, Ba and Collicini are basically the spine of you team. Cisse from what I saw today looks a good signing, but would need to more of him. I guess big thing is not only breaking into the top 6 or 4, but holding on to your key players so that you can sustain the momentum. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... What i really don't get is why there is no pressure coming from the top onto mcleish Its time to demand the next two games are either wins or on your bike And those backing Mcleish do you really not think you as a fan deserve better than this ? Because i do,im not asking for the world nor am i asking for CL football season in season out all i want is us to be able to compete in this league that we have been in since is started And at the moment we wouldn't even be able to compete with Crawley Town |
mon 4-5-1
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... monkeyman - if Liverpool, United, Chelsea or Arsenal came in for Petrov do you think he would hang around? very very unlikley, however all the good ones have gone, and were left with the dead wood we cannot shift. |
Salty
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... Re: Passion on the touchline. Doing an imitation of the manager of my local Under 8s is no indication of ability to run a team. |
daveavfc
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... I am 28 and have been supporting villa since I was born i do not normal comment on here but I feel I need tonight after watching todays match.I used to watch the likes of yorke townsend taylor bosnich southgate week in week out and really enjoyed watching villa but now its poor what has happened to our club randy please sell up and let someone else have a go you are killing our club with your decision making |
Villa since 1958
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... TrueVillan said: We need to get to 35 points from the next 5 games, otherwise it will be a very uncomfortable run in If we can get 35 points from 5 games then AMc is God. |
monkeyman
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... no he wouldnt but what im saying is i really dont think ireland zoggy hutton dunne give two s**ts if we win lose or draw,the thing that really pisses me off with dunne is if he puts a republic of ireland shirt on he gives sweat blood and tears for them to win with us i dont think he cares. at least with petrov,gabby,albrighton,gardner,clark,bannan there seems to be a love and care for the club,and a genuine sadness when we lose,AM isnt a villa man and to say we should be looking at newcastle as a way we should play work hard is a insult we are and always will be a bigger better club than them we just need a manager who knows and believes that this club and the fans wont be satisfied with 11th to 15th placed |
gmjvilla
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... If you are happy with 6 (six) wins in 24 (twenty four) games then I have to question your sanity. That record is simply not good enough and a VILLA supporter SHOULD NEVER be satisfied with that... NNNNEEEEVVVVVVVVVERRRRRRR!!!!! |
DanWilson82
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...
29 here and grew up in the same era, watching class players who actually stood a chance of winning something. The Coca Cola cup victory against united in 93/94 was the greatest moment of my football supporting life. Players like Saunders, Atkinson and Tony Daley pissing all over defences nation wide and going into matches against the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool as favourites. Thats why it hurts so much to see this team dismantled and knowing at the start of every single year that we have absolutley zero likelihood of winning any silverware. Fans of 90% of teams in the country have grown up knowing failure as the norm, maybe its more about staying up or hitting an all time high position in the league for them because they have never known success, I mean, you don't hear Fulham fans moaning about finishing 10th, but Villa are bigger and better and SHOULD be chalenging, but now we are on a leash, and until Lerner sells up I don't think we are ever getting off it. |
Old McParland
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... daveafc 28 what great age tio be you wont remember Joe Ruthrford then thats for sure.I understand your concerns especialy if your heart is with villa and things are not seemingly going correctly but, i have felt exactly the same on many occassions and also elivated when things picked up thats life unless like man city or even man u you can pull money out of the hat at any moment in time to change events .But it seems clear to me that Randy is pulling in his horns were cash is concerned especialy when he looks at the worlds finances in general.How would you play your cash cards if you were using your monies supposingly you had those amounts?Wisely i would imagine if your not wanting to lose out heavily.After MON spent all that cash on mostly has beens no wonder learner is cautious .You may see it totaly different from myself and its your choice which i totaly respect.But mcliesh good bad or indifferent took the job and now i beleave in the current climate we have him for some time.Hence my decission to back him at least for the remainder of this season to see what occures next. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Monkeyman - the attitudes will change when we have the right man is in charge, I'm fairly sure of that, and if they do not then, they certain players will be gone. Attitudes can be changed, ability on the other hand cannot be replaced, either you have it or you don't. At the moment by all accounts with reports coming out, the dressing room seems to be in disarray again, this time at the second half of the season and you well know when dressing has this kind of atmosphere, it only brings out the worst in some players - maybe they are the players who have set themselves a higher standard and are not happy with what they are seeing on the pitch? |
mon 4-5-1
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... also, lets not forget, Albrighton and Bannan are tow other players who have got on the wrong side of the Muppet. |
windofchange
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... You could see GG has class ok he missed a sitter but he had only been on for seconds what excuses have the rest of them got, my worry is Gardner is so good he will simply be sold to a top 4 club I think of all our kids he is the one to become a real star just hope we keep him long enough to make use of his undoubted talents. |
monkeyman
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... mon451 Again albrighton bannan ireland nzogbia they dont get on with AM as he hates flair players,players that might not always track back but can create a bit of magic to win a game these players are playing but with shackles on very big shackles every time they want to take a man on or play that killer pass they have that f**kin pale ginger t**t shouting get back get back in the end ud snap and think f**k it,he likes s**t boring robot players like dann,ferguson,ridgewell,johnson,bowyer players with no flair skill . |
taglor
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... GOD, you're all such negative ninny's on this blog. WHY can't you see the positives, all you do is be negative when we lose or play badly when you should be happy. 1: It isn't the manager's fault, he is really good because PF told us so even though he hasn't a football background. 2: It isn't RL's fault, he chose a manager we didn't want BUT it is his club and not yours so he can do what he wants and if he doesn't visit anymore that's because he has a lot of stress as a billionaire. 3: It isn't the players faults, YES they are all millionaire's that play a childrens game for a living BUT it is very difficult to try hard sometimes, especially when it is cold. 4: IT is YOUR fault, bloggers and fans for having the cheek to have opinions even if you have spent your money on Villa. So let's make this clear, it is definitely NOT RL, PF, AMc or the players fault it is YOU the bloggers and fans.  |
KrisAVFC
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... We are 13th! there is no way they will get rid of Alex Mcleish unless we are in the relegation zone, for this season anyway! Believe me!! Beginning of next season maybe, for this season whilst we remain a premier league side we will have the same manager! |
deano_scores_and_we_want_one_more
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... Can't see much in the professional media about an Ireland/AML bust up so I don't think we can pin our hopes on this being the start of getting AML out. The four games against Wigan, Blackburn, Fulham, Bolton are going to be key to our season. If we're going to put a run together here is the time to do it (lots of 6 pointers). A good points haul should go a long way to ensuring our safety. I think the club realise they made a huge mistake with AML and he'll be out in the summer but they want to get through the season and stay in the EPL. |
Old McParland
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... it aint my fault Taglor i just support the villa and have since horses and trams were on the streets of brum LOL, night all im off to watch match of the day bet were on first cause we lost LOL |
mon 4-5-1
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... monkeyman - I agree they are not type of players Muppet wants at the club, but for me i would keep them any day over the Muppet. What we could have as a team next season: ------------Given-------------------- Herd----Cueller----Clark----Stevens ---------Makoun----Gardner--------- Albrighton--------Ireland-----Nzogbia ---------------Bent------------------ Subs ==== Gabby Bannan Baker Guzan Delph (when back from Loan) Lichaj In the summer I would get rid of: Petrov Collins Dunne Heskey Warnock Hutton I would bring in quality left back, quality defensive midfielder, central defender and extend Cuellers contract. |
Jane
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... I am soooooooooo worried, I look at our team and struggle to have a fav player. I just can't see us winning again. I listen for our result knowing that at best it will be a draw. Alex 's**thead Mc looked delighted with a draw at home to QPR.... come on I ask you. Please god answer my prayers and make this all a bad dream. Why would RL think that he could do a job for us when he couldn't for the s**t. |
Albri-12
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... so so depressing. This is by the hardest defeat to take in a while. The players dont give a s**t about the club or the manager and add to that we have a terrible manager. We will go down. ive said it all season. we just cant win for s**t. we need a manager. there needs to be massive protests againts AM |
Albri-12
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...McLeish however was, as is now standard, pleased with the performance WE WERE f**kING s**t AM YOU w****r !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
monkeyman
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... Couldn't agree more. The one constant over the last 9 years has been Randy Lerner. This franchise has been in a continual state of disarray over the course of his "leadership". I use the term leadership loosely since this guy has been so aloof and distant the entire time. I can't believe how he continues to refuse to get in front of a TV camera and face the fans of his franchise. They say he's camera-shy.....are you serious? Man up and do an interview. And now it appears that the Holmgren hire has been yet another mistake Sounds rather familiar this is on a clevland browns blog about lerner the bloke is arrogant obnoxious and they called him a pathetic billionaire in america,this is where the core of the problem is. |
TrueVillan
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... Villa since 1958 If we can get 35 points from 5 games then AMc is God. Read the quote, if we can get TO 35 points, i.e. 7 points from 5 games, not much to ask, but possibly more than this idiot can deliver! |
Albri-12
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... We just need a huge clear out in the summer. Look at Newcastle's bench, Cisse, Ameobi, Obberton and Arfa. None of them world beater but all 4 have can defenders the s**t and good options to have. Has height, power,pace and ability. Then look at our bench, terrible apart from GG and Bannan. we have no width in our side. Gabby cant play on the wing for s**t, Zoggy is better behind the main striker but cus we have Keane/ Ireland he cant play there and then Albri, our best winger but his crossing at times is crap. Then up front. No height, no pace or ability to link up play, its so easy for defenders. Bent was great last season when supplied but this season under AM it aint working. Ba and Cisse as a front 2 has everything. pace, power, height, goals and ability on the ball, defenders would it hate it playing against them. we need to add that in the summer. good wingers and strikers that are hand fulls |
Albri-12
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... After 24 games the comparison of the seasons are POINTS BIRMINGHAM CITY 2010/11 = 27 ASTON VILLA 2011/12 = 28 GOALS SCORED BIRMINGHAM CITY 2010/11 = 24 ASTON VILLA 2011/12 = 28 GOALS AGAINST BIRMINGHAM CITY 2010/11 = 33 ASTON VILLA 2011/12 = 33 DRAWS BIRMINGHAM CITY 2010/11 = 12 ASTON VILLA 2011/12 = 10 WINS BIRMINGHAM CITY 2010/11 = 5 ASTON VILLA 2011/12 = 6 |
clevelandvillian
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... Kind of long, but a very good read http://www.coolcleveland.com/b...ners-life/ |
25yardDalian
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... If anyone needs confirmation of the lost dressing room - mirror reporter at the game tweets on the incident with Ireland at HT - TalkSoprt confirming 4-5 players arguing tactics with AM at HT on the pitch at FT, our Players tweets "not enjoying football anymore (NZog) hard time to get a new manager in now so Gregory til the end of the season please with some proper research done for the future of AVFC |
Villa since 1958
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... TrueVillan said: Read the quote I know, I know - I was just trying to be funny. My apologies for the mis-quote. I'm so tired of watching us lose/draw/play badly and so tired of Amc out/Amc in, it's RL's fault, it's the players fault and now, according to the PR bloggers on this site it's OUR fault, so I just thought a tiny joke might lighten the mood. I hardly post anymore as it's all been said by everyone. AMc agrees that defensive errors keep costing us points, but continues to play the same back four when fit, and rotating the midfield/strikeforce even when he's actually found an effective formation. None of this makes sense to me, and none of this is being picked up by the pundits or the media - just us fans - what's going on? I've only made it to a couple of games this season (Fulham & Wigan) and the constant effective threat was Gabby skinning the opposition right-back and crossing with his left foot, as well as scoring, and there have been fans on here slating him! At the Wigan game we bossed the midfield until Ireland and Bannan went off, and now AMc won't play them together. Chris Herd had a stormer at right-back and now AMc won't play him there (I know he's injured now, but he wasn't for several games after his MoM performance). There are so many other stupidities too numerous to list here, but surely ANYONE with ANY football knowledge could see them - even Amc. . . but apparently not. |
gmjvilla
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... Hats off to you Damo... registrations, reviewers and logging on appears to have kept the knob heads at bay.... high number of comments too so you may have stumbled on a winner... shame Mclueless couldn't do the same BTW I'm 38 and remember seeing us win the league and european cup in consecutive years... magical years... I guess that's why most people on here will never settle for mediocrity... |
ViLJa_Fan
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... Disappointed with the result today as feel we could have won against a very good and effective newcastle team, we had some good spells in the game and had some very good chances which Bent would have scored against most keepers, unfortunately Krul is one of the best goalkeepers in the league and had a very good game today. Am i the only one who thinks the substitutions were good??N'zogbia went missing 15 minutes before he came off, couldnt keep hold of the ball and kept dropping deeper and deeper in order to get it which only invited on more pressure and left Bent and Keane even more isolated. Heskey came on, sat on the full backs shoulder (which pushed him back) and became a target man who can actually hold onto the ball and get others involved (Bent desperately needs to work on his build up play, i can see why top clubs have never been in for him). Going long and getting the ball from defence to up front in one pass was what we needed AT THAT POINT as Newcastle were dominating (i think the possession near that point was 75-25 to Newcastle) and it actually got us playing higher up the pitch. GG looked good when he came on and maybe should have done better, if he had converted just one of his two very good chances then we would have got a more than deserved point. Also i am disappointed if Ireland did say what he is being reported to have said, a top pro should know better and he has been one of our bright sparks in recent games (today he didnt look amazing and did need a kick up the arse). We have been playing some better football recently and although i hate to say it, we have been unlucky but we i can see us turning some of these draws into wins and the losses into draws, i mean today could have easily been a draw and everyone would have said "fair result", we should have beat QPR and bounced back brilliantly with good football. I have felt for many years that we have needed a striker who can play between the lines, find the gaps to pick the ball up and be clever in the final third and link up with others WITH THE BALL ON THE FLOOR and we have that with Keane, my concern is what's going to happen when Keane has to go back? Thats were i would have liked to see Bannan and maybe we will, maybe AM has told Bannan to watch and learn from Keane. Main thing, i think we will avoid releagtion this season and get mid table once again, we have some good youngsters who are getting game time now and we give us a good platform to build on for future years, just concerned that the 'experienced' players which every club needs will either be far too old (petrov, heskey, dunne) or simply unhappy at Aston Villa (Ireland, N'Zogbia, Bent) And lastly, i remember reading all the haters about Houllier, yet this was the man who had very good ideas of HOW to play (ball on the floor) and which players could and couldn't fit this system, now i believe a few of those players now ply their trade for Newcastle who are having their best season and credit to Pardew who received so much stick but managed to pull some brilliant shock signings out the hat and get them back to the force they used to be some years back. |
mon 4-5-1
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... You know when a manager is way out of his depth and just not good enough to survive in this league. His post match conference all he could refer to was work rate, work rate, work rate, work rate, closing down and work rate. Now can someone tell the Muppet, you would not need to do so much closing down if our players learnt how to put together 3 plus passes before giving it away to the opposition - he should be looking at his and Grant's rubbish training method's and trying to improve our players passing ability, which quite frankly is shockingly bad. |
mandurah villa
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... this is becoming such a farce with mcnaff in charge , what planet is he on , he is so fustrating.. with ireland and zog improving of late, in fighting brings a halt to our rhythm i know the players and fans have opinions on the way we are playing and so we should! mcnaff says we have a quiet dressing room no wonder ,if you speak out you get dropped! i enjoyed the game had some good chances but the result sucks and i,m afraid when heskey came on i was horrified and dumb founded i was hoping we had seen the last of him in our beloved villa shirt.. going backwards again ... |
DeadTeamWalking
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... I would just love to know what does it take for Randy Lerner to realise Mcleish is not good enough nor is he premier league material Also what does it take to convince fellow villa fans you are wasting your hard earned money to go and watch a Alex Mcleish side Seriously sitting there singing villa villa villa is only convincing the club your happy with things Shape up and donate the money to charity |
GeordieVillian
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... Today Hurt... People saying we played well... for 20min we did play well other then that we played s**t back passes and long balls... |
SydneyVilla
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... Well if it's true that mcleish has lost the dressing room thats awesome news,the best we could hope for and the best we've had for a long time.Even he couldnt have a thick enough skin to deal with this,if the fans back the players up with there own protests this idiot cant last much longer....i cannot wait for the Man City game now,it's the beginning of the end of a massive token of disrespect towards every Aston Villa supporter.....sorry, but for the benefit of our club i hope we get f**kin smashed...! |
Villaranger
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... I still have tremendous faith in Lurner and Muckleash, but having said that it’s time to flush. We really need to remain positive, otherwise they’ll relegate us with pleasure. |
divine_islet
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...McLeish feels Villa need to cut out costly errors at the back if they are to start climbing the table, with Cisse's winner highlighting their defensive frailties once again. He still feels that we are making costly errors,and he's been saying that for quite sometime now,and yet he does f**k all about it.Alex ,you motherf**ker,our defenders like Dunne,Collins and Warnock are s**t,and to add to that ,you went ahead and bought yet another piece of s**t in Hutton.Don't play these assholes in defence ,and i can say without a shadow of a doubt,that at least we won't lose games. |
divine_islet
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... Once robbie leaves us ,unfortunately,we have to play the following formation to give ourselves a chance to be in the premier league,and that's by playing the best players in their best positions. Bent Ireland Gabby/Nzog Gardner Bannan Albrighton Stevens Cuellar Clark Herd/Lichaj |
divine_islet
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... It looks like Birmingham are coming back up into the prem,and we are going down.I don't give any credit to Pardew for the way Newcastle have been playing,as the one who deserves it is Chris Hughton.He,i think,can became a top manager one day,as his teams play good football,and he got Newcastle back in the prem league the season after they went down,and it's now odds-on that he's going to do the same with Birm. |
windofchange
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... mon 4-5-1 said: You know when a manager is way out of his depth and just not good enough to survive in this league Yes Randy Lerner employs him! |
Aussievilla
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... Is there any chance that Keane could stay if he wanted to, or is he only allowed to stay for the 6 games ?? |
Raz
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... OMG we are being compared to Birmingham city... Really? Can this be true? Something is really not right for this to be happening... Also, warnock should never wear a football shirt again, let alone a villa shirt... I actually believe he's the worst footballer on the planet. Team for next season (if we stay in the f**king league) given herd cuellar dunne Stevens albrighton bannan Gardner nzog Ireland bent (and get makoun back because he can pass a ball) |
The Droyd
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... Am I the only one who thinks that Hutton is improving and had a good game against both QPR and Newcastle? I thought we were unlucky not to get a point and I won't berate the players for that performance. Warnock was better but is still looking like a liability and further improvement from him is badly needed. McLeish was right to bollock Ireland for not sufficiently closing down. He saunters far too much. Heskey on for N'Zogbia was a bad move. I thought N'Zogbia looked a threat and was brilliant with his assist for Keane's goal. His tweet after the game shows he is not happy though. I think we are playing well in patches at the moment but we are conceding far too many goals. We miss Chris Herd in the defensive midfield role. Clark is doing his best playing out of position but his best in that position isn't good enough right now. We need to get tighter, stop conceding so many goals and we can put a run together. We haven't had a run all season. |
windofchange
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... "For the first time in my life I am not happy playing football" Charles NZogbia on Twitter yesterday - how many more of our players think but dont say it? |
Raz
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... Scary to hear nzog talking like that. Also, Hutton has improved but needs to keep improving. Gardner for me is the best of our youth players... Alright he missed that chance but in the long run that will mean f**k all to his career with the club... Fact is, he made the run, got into the gap, but scuffed the shot. Bet he doesn't scuff too many of those from getting himself into those positions.... Needs to be starting games |
Sconson
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... I remember been on this forum 2-3 years ago when we were linked to Robbie Keane and the majority of 'fans' thought he was past it and not good enough for the mighty villa. We are going to be fighting relegation this season and when Keano leaves were gona struggle even more. I know it's a team effort but since he put on the shirt he has been our best player in my opinion. Frustrating times... peace.. |
windofchange
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... Robbie Keane seems a better player for dropping deep he seems to have more time on the ball. |
mon 4-5-1
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... windofchange - Nzogbia was meant to be the Muppets marquee signing this summer. If in the first season playing under this Muppet he feels like this already then, it pretty much sums it up that we have almost no chance to succeed, apart from being relegated, which is something this Muppet is very good at doing. If it had been some of the overpaid prima-donna's then you could point the finger at the players, however, this is the new boy on the scene, who has not even completed his first full season and he feels like this playing under the Muppet. It's all very well blaming supporters, Blogs, the opposition supporters, world economy…quality of player, but at some point there comes a time where every supporter needs to be honest with themselves for the sake of the club, and realise, we really have got a Muppet in charge who has zero man management skills, which is further backed up with zero tactical knowledge, and zero nous in the transfer market to attract kind of calibre of player our club needs. If yesterday's dressing room unrest proves anything, it is that we should not wait until the end of the season before getting rid of this Muppet, it should be done now. What are the chances of Ireland, Nzogbia and any of the other players involved playing again? And if they do where does that leave the manager and his authority? |
Bradnsj
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... I can't believe that Mr. Lerner has not done the sums!! You get relegated; you lose MILLIONS of pounds. Add it up now, Randy. Get rid of McLeish even though you have to buy him out of his contract. PLEASE.. NOW |
cypriotvilla
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... We have the players,who week in week out are not producing.Replace Dunne with Clark,keep Cuellar,replace Warnock with Stevens. There is also no width in the side.Ok we have Albrighton,injured.How about playing Burke or Carruthers to give us width. When we attack we look good.When we play defensive footbal we concede.We might aswell attack and concede thats just abject surrender. Change your tactics Mcleish or welcome relegation. |
windofchange
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... Cuellar was as guilty as the rest yesterday, and we just have to hope that RL takes the stance of Ireland and tells McMuppet to f*ck off! |
Stephen Jay Hawkings
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... I thought we played well yesterday. Unfortunately a lot of that was down to Robbie Keane and he won't be with us much longer, but hopefully it will have rubbed off on the younger lads. The manner of yesterday's defeat was in no way comparable to that of Spurs, City, Man Utd or Swansea so I'm surprised by the over-reaction, actually I'm not, what am I talking about? There's 6 times as many posts here when we lose than when we win. Q.P.R second half was great, yesterday was decent, all in all, improvement enough that we won't get relegated. Yes, that's right, WE WON'T GET RELEGATED, just like Robbie Keane is still a very good player, and eventually Ireland came good. |
bobvillian
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... Every game to me is groundhog day;defence keeps making mistakes but this muppet of a manager has not the brains to try other players or is simply scared to drop the players.Lichal and herd are now back so stick them in the full-back positions;When collins is fit again he will drop our best defender quellar and put him in his place.Dunne;warnock;and hutton are really the pits this season and need to be shipped out as soon as posible.Keane was great yesturday but when he plays another 3games he will be off so who the f**k then does he bring in.I must say some of the bad comments about gardner missing them 2 chancers was disgracful as he was only on the pitch 15min;look at how he bust a gut to get in the box somethink our forwards need to do. |
bobvillian
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... As for our next manager it has to be hughton;that would really piss off the blue-noses.A real man-manager who sends teams out win games playing good football!It pains me to say the scum have got a gem of a manager |
gmjvilla
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... Today's paper has a bit on Ireland's dissent towards the manager and N'zog's tweets... So if the fans and players aren't happy, what's the solution? Answers on a postcard... |
runtingz
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... I really dont believe we will get relegated as there are worse teams than us ..... we could of got something yesterday dispite all the hoofing and we was playng one of the lge's better sides away.... the scary thing is if RL then keeps mcleish nxt season ..thats when we really could go down |
j doyle
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... no wonder nzogbia is feel up how would you feel the guy who last season was only second to messie in players beaten and more than twice as many as any other player in the prem take off and replaced by a sack of s**te called heskey no wonder he dont want to play football he feels like every fan i know . football is second at villa park the only thing that seems to matter is that McMuppet never does anything wrong it is always some one else that is to blame no matter what . until we have a guy in charge of our once great foot ball club who can be honest we really don't have a chance. |
nicknag
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... What annoys me is that we have on paper a fairly decent team, if we had an actual manager who can manage, then we would be in top half of league, in my opinion we had a better team on the pitch than Newcastle, but the players had no confidence and a lack of leadership. Someone like rodgers, lambert or even holloway would be welcome in my opinion, and i would suspect would't cost too much in bringing one of them in. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Stephen Jay Hawkings - we played a side who basically had the engine room missing (Cabeye and Tiotte). They also had Ba coming back from the African Nations cup, and even the Sky Pundits were commenting on him breathing heavy just before half time. If you also take into account that they had to bring on 2 subs before the first half was over, one who was making his debut, and we could still not even get a point when many prior to the game were saying with the players Newcastle had missing they were there for the taking, exactly what are we to be positive about? That we actually tried to pass the ball for all of 30 minutes in the first half? Only one team looked like they wanted it more after the break, and again you have to question the Muppet's team talk at half time. Once we did go behind and Gardner was introduced, we did try to have a go, but by then it was too late - which basically has been our story so far this season. These set of games we are in at the moment are games where we should be winning at home and trying to get away point where possible - yesterday was most definitely possible if the manager has instilled the right mindset. Our last 7 games on what we have produced so far under this Muppet would suggest, we are not going to get much change as far as points are concerned let alone the actual improvement in playing style. |
Agrotis
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... Imagine your a manager... Your team is not playing brilliant, but its in control of a first half where you has created the better chances. During that first half, one of your players tells you to fcuk off because you blame him for not cutting out a ball that leads to the opposition goal, mainly because he feels he was not the covering player. It happens. Its emotions. It shows you care. To compound this, you have several other senior players in that team shouting back at you, that youve got it wrong, one of which is your skipper. What do you do? Do you use the criticism from your players to prove you wrong, and gee them up? Or do you act like a Muppet and take off the player that told you to f**k off, to make an example in front of the other players that are telling you the same? You may be wrong, and the result means nothing. You can not have players questioning you, even if they have a point and you may be wrong. If we lose, so be it, you will not have your authority questioned. The above for me, is rank bad management. It passing the buck, and its cowardly. Ive managed football teams, and the one thing you do, is listen to your players on the pitch, especially your skipper. If they tell you to f**k off, then so what, tell them the same back, get him motivated to prove you wrong. This sounds like a manager that has very little motivational skills, has no tactical ability, and feels superior to the players. It hints at a manager that lack any confidence himself, or in what he is doing. He is a manager that will blame everyone else for his mistakes, and take it out on individual players to take the focus away from his ability to manage. No? Then just look back and tell me when he has ever admitted he got it wrong. If we had football people running the club, they would see the above, and they would act. Since we do not, and that they probably dont even care, should have every TRUE supporter up in arms. People, we are in deep s**t if this continues... Get Gregory in before its to late. |
Agrotis
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... Runtingz 8 points is not a lot at this stage of the season. I do tend to agree with you, but im looking at our fixtures, and praying teams below us do not get a run of results going. If they do, we could be in the s**t. |
B64life
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... This man wants us to have a work ethic like Newcastle, (IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE ) he says! Well it is for u, we don't have it because after 60-70mins were tired, sitting back allowing the other team to have the ball, play the ball n put pressure on us, were Gunnar get tired, when we get the ball n can't string a couple of passes together were gonna get tired, when we hoof the ball up to a lone striker surrounded by defenders n it comes straight back time n time again guess what! Were gonna get f**king tired! There's no way we can keep that up for 90mins week in week out, maybe just maybe if we kept the ball longer, string passes together n didn't just hoof it every time get the ball aimlessly we wouldn't get tired............get out now u JOKE!!! |
Agrotis
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...Yes, that's right, WE WON'T GET RELEGATED, The very fact that you have to say that, should be cause for concern. Aston Villa should not be in this position. Full stop. |
Cantbebothered
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... Bannan is so overrated it's not funny his pass completion rate is worse than Warnocks, he runs away from play just so his passes are from further away, one forty yard pass to nobody after another,that is not vision or creativity it's s**te, which is why I find it strange he doesn't get more starts under Mcmuppet as he is both Scottish and crap just like Hutton and fits into the hoof it system quite well. Felt sorry for Robbie Keane having to plead with everyone around him to pass the ball on the ground he's used to better in the MLS. Well said Ireland by the way I also think he should f.ck off, as for Nzogbia how can he say he isn't enjoying playing football, that's boll.x, we all know neither he or villa have played football all season and never will under this idiot. |
xandeh
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... People keep talking about the losses that come with relegation but they forget about the positives financially too. Almost every player has a stipulation in their contract that means their wages are cut after relegation, plus the mass exodus which follows, add to that the parachute payment, being the biggest club in the championship will still see us getting a good whack of TV money and also he knows the Villa faithful will go week in week out, to me seems like an ideal way to CUT costs rather than create them. |
MrT76
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... I always used to have a soft spot for Villa. Then I attended Villa Park the season we(NUFC) were relegated and your lot showed yourselves up as the classy bunch you are. I would take great pleasure in seeing Villa go down and hopefully replaced by Chrissy Hughtons mob. Karma is indeed a bitch. |
leevilla
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... Does anyone think Bents first touch is s**te,he cant hold the ball up.When Keane goes where will the creativity and spark come from,i looked at our bench and it wont come from there too lightweight |
Albri-12
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... i think we will go down on the last day of the season. our last 6 games are horrible. we will get 3 points the most from them. We are 8 points away, that will get even smaller after the man city game, and we cant win for s**t so dont be surprised if wigan and BBurn beat us we are a very poor side. our defence is the worst we have had in ages and thats why we will go down. Bannan and GG both played well when they came on in the own ways, they have to start |
Pazzler
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... sad to hear about the player unrest altho in a way it is understandable, thing is we need togetherness not a mutiny. we will stay up. but changes are needed in the summer. our defence needs revamping. gutted to lose. next 5 games we must get 12 points minimum. |
Agrotis
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...Bannan is so overrated it's not funny his pass completion rate is worse than Warnocks, he runs away from play just so his passes are from further away, one forty yard pass to nobody after another,that is not vision or creativity it's s**te Ireland should not of been taken off. We were the more dangerous side with him in it. I think the players are as fed up of Hutton as we are, since every time he makes a mistake, the manager blames someone else. In this case it was Ireland. If you believe the PR from the club, that he was injured. Then Bannon is not the right replacement anyway, since any decent manager would want to keep the same shape for the second half, and replace him like for like... So why not Gardner? McLeish is Billy McNeil all over again. |
Cantbebothered
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... £15 million shirt deal, wonder how many with Hutton or Warnock on the back will be sold? |
windofchange
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... To all those who assumed Villa fans are only anti -McLeish because he is exclowns manager, well I would love Chris houghton to be our boss it dont matter to me where a manager managed its about how good he is, and McLeish just aint good enough. |
.vogra
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... What a total waste that was, I managed to get home around 10ish from the game yesterday. We are a total joke we are at the moment.I very doubt i'm going to waste my hard earned money going to watch this shambles for the rest of the season. |
Stephen Jay Hawkings
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... mon 4-5-1 I know they they were missing Tiote and Cabaye, 2 very good players, but we were hardly playing a depleted team, Guthrie and Perch did very well in midfield anyway in their absence. As for the subs, they brought on a £9m striker that would eventually, oh so predictably score the winner, and if you compare who they had on their bench to ours... We were far better than them in the first half, could have been 3 or 4 up if we had converted our chances, such a fine line between winning and losing, so that's what I'm trying to be positive about. It's not like we just got hammered at Blackburn, Newcastle are flying at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I think McLeish is not up to it and want him out as much as anyone, but it's no need to get all drama queeny like a lot of people here and cry "relegation!" |
Toon Fan
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... Really pleased we're doing better than you at the moment. You guys (not all of you admittedly) showed a massive lack of class when we went down with those banners and now we're a good few years ahead of you which was emphasised when McLeish spoke about wanting to copy the Newcastle blueprint. We're now the model every team below us is going to follow. Having got that one out of the way (and I do apologise it wasn't aimed at all Villa fans) I have to say I thought you guys were unlucky. You have some talented youngsters, the second best keeper we've had in the Premier League (after Krul) and a top goalscorer in Darren Bent. Apart from the whole Villa Park 2009 thing I've never minded Villa. I still think the potential is there with the players you have but McLeish doesn't seem the right man. I can't understand why Lerner didn't give O'Neill the funds to build on what was a top side yet half a year later gave Houllier £24m to spend on Darren Bent. That's what I'd be wanting to know if I was a Villa fan. Anyway best wishes for the rest of the season |
Advilla
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... Bob villain What ever you do don't post your address, you will get a visit from the "he's the ex blues boss" brigade. How dare you suggest such a thing, it don't matter if he's a managerial genius...he's from blues so we can't have him. I am still waiting for someone to suggest a replacement manager who would come here under the present restraints together with the s**t supporters we have when things go wrong...who would take that crap..... It's a poison chalice, even o'niel who I never particully rated had his pro supporters on him every February to April when we never won any games So bob villa, go wash your mouth out and stand in the naughty corner for an hour or two |
DD
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... Looking at the next 5 fixtures we have a chance of points in 4 of them. If we don't get 7-9 points in those fixtures we are in real trouble as the next 5 fixtures (Arsenal, Chelsea etc) after that look like 0 points leaving us 4 games at the end of the season to get enough points to stay up. Unless we get rid of the manager in the next week I think we are in trouble. |
Raz
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... Getting a bit fed up of listening to this s**t from Newcastle fans. If I remember rightly, there was one banner out that day which was sumet about ant and dec... Had f**k all really to do with their subsequent relegation, just a humurous mocking.... Then newcastle got relegated because, low and behold, they just so happened to play their final fixture at villa park and we won.... Let's get one thing straight Newcastle fans, you relegated yourselves, not Aston villa. It wasn't Aston villa who relegated Newcastle, the season isn't played over one fixture and yet the bitterness from you lot if quite ridiculous. Another way of looking at it was, newcastle as a club failed, and alan shearer as a panic appointmnt failed.... Que the onslaught because I said alan shearer (the messiah) FAILED UTV |
bobvillian
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... "Avilla" You are so deluded;I have supported villa for 55years so i think i have seen good and bad managers down the villa over them years; i am certain if hughton was in charge up to now we would be seeing a better type of football and more points on the board.I dont give a s**t if we bring in a manager from the scum if he is doing a good job thats all that matters.People like you need to wake up and smell the roses and admit there is good in every club no matter how you hate the blue-noses |
DeadTeamWalking
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... So still nothing said by the club Is it not about time they started putting pressure on Mcleish by demanding wins or on your bike Typical of this football club though it is only interested in communicating with us if it involves something where we spend our money Well while Mcleish is in charge it hasn't had a penny off me all season an won't until that position changes Totally refuse to have anything to do with the club in terms of buying stuff Treat us like dirt and get treated the same back SIMPLES |
DeadTeamWalking
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... And so Paul f**kup hopes of european football have been ruined Does anybody know he's expectations now Of course not its only prepared to talk to us when it's after our money Maybe relegation is what we deserve will teach Randy Lerner a lesson that if you give up and lose your passion things like this happen |
Advilla
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... Bob villa I too have supported villa for 50 years, my point is, I agree houghton would be a good replacement, I'm not one of the "if he's from blues, he's s**t" brigade, but as you are surly aware, there are t**ts on this blog who would not want this to happen because he's from blues. My other question still remains, who would want to come here at present.....no-one How does this make me deluded? Read my last post, you obviously didn't understand my point I couldn't give a s**t where the next manager comes from so long as he brings success, however that success would be governed by the type of backing they would be given by the board. Bye the way, I'm from the black country, I don't hate the blues as much as I hate the Albion or wolves in fact I had a relative play for blues under Barry fry and went a few times to support him, so don't tell me I hate any team, you don't know me.......did I say in my last post I hated blues....NO...you like a lot of other people on this site, read what you want to read...then put your own spin on it I know it's difficult at villa at present, but it seems everyone has lost their sense of humour...even tonge in cheek humour.......life is such a misery isn't it |
werd
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... AMC is like a handbrake, if we release him we'll go a lot further and faster.... but it still wouldn't correct for the fact that the other parts of the car are worn out and we don't have replacements. is there another side which has no cover for the fullbacks, no def mid at all (save the one in turkey), and very little backup on the wings? lets criticize AMC for releasing makoun and for swapping heskey for nzog (our one fit winger),, but lets not slate him for not playing gardner at def mid (i think that coventry tried this and apparently he wasn't great there) or for falling out with immature somethings like ireland. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Advilla - in answer to your question, there are plenty of names who would jump at the chance of taking the job in the interim. If you wanted I could compile a list of at least half a dozen managers who would do much better in the remaining games then the current Muppet in charge. Someone earlier mentioned Gregory, but this is just one name from a list of many. Ruid Hullit is just another example of someone who could come in and is available. With players now revolting against the manager (quite frankly who can blame them) what do you think the remaining games are going to hold for us with this Clown in charge? At least with a new person coming in even for a few games there will be a feel good factor whilst the board pick the next man to take the helm. On a positive note from reading reports, there is a clause in the Clown's contract that if he is sacked he only gets one million on compensation. |
Elmo Grub
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... Is Guus Hiddink still unemployed? I've heard he turned down Anzhi in January. Javier Aguirre did a decent job with Atletico but not too well at Zaragoza. He's unemployed at the mo I think. Is Benitez still floating about jobless? I'm sure there are alternatives available. But I'm pretty sure AM is going nowhere until at least the end of the season and perhaps beyond. |
mon 4-5-1
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... Using the 1 in 4 stats this Muppet of a manager has as mentioned before, we have 12 games left, which mean 3 wins, with some draws. Looking at our total right now, fingers crossed 40 points should hopefully be enough to get us over the safety line. |
holted
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... Surely if there is a £1 million clause, thats just £41 per season ticket holder to get rid. Now thats value for money |
villain4eva
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... First half we was tge better team n shudv been leading at half time, 2nd half the changes was wrong n came too late, firstly ireland shudnt have come off, n heskey shudv been on for keane not zoggy, imo the football is improving but the defense is letting us down, next game id play given, warnock, hutton, cuellhar, collins, clarke, petrov, gardner, ireland, keane/gabby, if it was anyone else other thab man city id drop petrov n leave bent in |
windofchange
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... I too have watched Villa for over 50 years, I too agree it matters not where a manager comes from, but part of me (as much as I dont want McLeish here) thinks that our situation is exaggerated because no only do we have a manager moulded from McNeil/Venglos but our squad is lacking in the quality needed to achieve anything above mid table, I have seen some lite weight squads in my time but this is one of the worst, its ok if you have quality having a small squad, I really like the look of Gardner you can see he has star quality potential when he is on the ball but he is the exeption rather than the rule I am afraid the he will be prized away once he comes to the notice of the top clubs. |
Elmo Grub
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... One large betting website puts McCarthy, Kean, AVB, Redknapp, Coyle and Martinez at shorter odds in the sack race. I wouldn't get your hopes up before the season ends. |
jamez
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... it worked at Rangers... prompting protests outside Ibrox against both McLeish and David Murray.[23] On 9 February 2006, it was announced by chairman David Murray that McLeish would be standing down as manager at the end of that season.[24] we moan on the blogs but not in the media's eye... lets get out there and get heard... |
.vogra
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... Will AMC STOP playing Ciaron Clarke in midfield, he is not a midfielder, his only position is centre back, and even that he's not good at, to slow and cumbersum...overated, and not good enough. |
Advilla
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... Mon 451 I'm not saying there isn't names out there,I'm saying who would take it under the boards restraints....answer probably non that's why we ended up with AM. Also would a different manager stop o'niels donkeys making the same stupid errors we see every game.....no You mentioned Gregory......we've been there before and gullet, how long since he last managed? Why has no one else come in for him? Plus most new managers would want 30mil transfer budget....that ain't happening, that's why I maintain no decent managers would come So yes, make a list I'll be interested to see that |
TrueVillan
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... If McClueless is telling the truth, that Ireland was substituted because he was pulling out of tackles, then it shows what a negative and defensive minded T wat he is! Ireland was class, with him in the side we were on top, the midfield already has 2 defensive midfielders in it with Petrov and Clarke, so why couldn't we have a good passing midfielder, ok, maybe not flying into the tackle, but I dont remember him backing off. In McClueless world, everyone has to defend, we could not possibly have a player that simply plays football and defence cutting passes, oh no, he has to defend! the man is so nagative. |
Fatkv
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... How much did it cost to buy out byes contract Along with mon gh .. Our owner throws away millions and still has.NO interest It shows he is. NO good for avfc We must target him every week support the team and sing anti learner songs that is the only way forward |
Fatkv
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... To the ok koke He pays up mon Then kicks him out Bring in gh f**ks it all about Do it like falkner Oh t**t randy learner Oh t**t randy learner Oh t**t randy learner Bringing in the scAM Will take us down That's what he's all about Oh t**t randy learner Oh t**t randy learner Oh t**t randy learner |
bobvillian
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... The main reason we concede so many goals is down to crap defenders but also we have no one who holds the ball up front!!Best exsample D bent who needs 3 touches to control the ball. |
Raz
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... Bent is only effective in th penalty area, that's why he needs players around him, that's why we need to be on the front foot with a striker like that. Becuz we happy to sit there, we're never on the front foot so dazza bent is not effective enuf. Need players who can get at full backs and whip crosses in. Need to sort the defense out!! Warnock is not anfootballer |
DeadTeamWalking
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... The board need to start demanding a few things from Mcleish I am amazed at how he is getting away with being so awful i don't think even the likes of crawley town would put up with this |
Return of Rowley
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...Why has no one else come in for him? Sorry to but in, but why is that relevant? No-one wanted Pardew last year and now he's being mentioned as a possible England manager. There are alternatives who I think would get better out of the squad and I'd personally prefer at the club. 1. Alan Curbishley- great record under budget constraints. 2. Kevin MacDonald- knows the club and players inside out. 3. Simon Grayson- my 1st choice and knows what it's like to be at villa. Had the best £:points ratio in the Championship. 4. Glenn Hoddle- Huge knowledge of the game, plays the right way. 5. Lee Clark- Young and hungry and not exactly spent millions at Huddersfield. 6. Dean Saunders- Experience at lower level and a relative club legend. Bring in Big Ron as a Director of Football, maye. 7.Paolo Di Canio- Doing wonders at Swindon and would be great fun! 8. Gus Poyet- Plays good stuff at Brighton and would love the chance at a big club. 9. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer- Never going to happen but has been brilliant at Molde. 10.Michael Laudrup- Too forward thinking for our club, but a very good option. Shoot them down if you want but these are my opinions and I think all 10 would offer a better alternative to McLeish. |
John Salter
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... AMc says he's not bothered about Ireland's rant when he was subbed because he says it showed passion and that he was actually taken off because he had an ankle injury and was struggling! Much as 99% want a change in manager (I'd take Chris Hughton any day)I can't see it happening because it would mean Lerner admitting a huge mistake. He went against the wishes of the fans who were angry not because of where AMc came from but because his record was/is awful. Fans protested against he potential appointed and Lerner went out of his way to get him. Not only that but AVFC paid BCFC millions in the process for taking AMc, so now Villa would have to at least get relegated and for Lerner to lose millions in his investment. The stupid thing is that the club is already losing millions because over ten thousand fans are staying away every home match and the responsibility for that lies with the owner. MrT76 - Villa won't go down even with this manager purely because there are worse teams and even worse managers out there. As for karma - you can stick it up your arse son! |
B62 Villa
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... Rowley, there's a few names on your list I wouldn't mind replacing this ginger t**t, ole Gunnar solksjear, laudrup are both doing well in scandanavia , Poyet and mad Paolo Di Canio would be interesting Lee Clark has done well but I think might need a stint in the championship, Grayson would be an improvement but would prefer Lambert or Rodgers or even Zola, I think Hoddle and Curbs have been away too long Mcleish and Lerner Out |
steveAVFC
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... We can,t defend and AM has no funds to change it. He could parner Clake and Carlos but I get the feeling that Clark could be as weak in that position has he is in midfield. AM should never play Warnock again as he is the biggest drain on our overall team performance and cannot be trusted to defend and keep on his feet( 1st rule of defending) Great to see Gardener come on but it is not the time to bed in a kid of 19 in a struggling team with no confidence in their ability to win games AM must be trusted to get it right but he needs the player to back him or we might as well all pack up and give up on this club. We must also remember that the manager is a proffessional football manager and is paid to get it right, so we must give him an element of trust that it will get better There is no doubt that he has got the team playing some good possesion football except the end results are not good enough.We now need to pull together and try a get a result against man.c UTV |
xandeh
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... One thing straight away John Gregory would add is passion, he supports the Villa and so how we are at the moment will be hurting him as it is all of us. Also he has a good knowledge of the club(I know things have changed a fair bit since he was last at the helm.) Plus he'd get almost immediate backing from a lot of the fans! I dont think Gregory is out messiah and that he would come in and completely reshaped the club, but he'd be a lot better than Mcelish and he's definitely do a decent job on a temporary basis. I'd vote for him. |
Return of Rowley
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...... Lerner, McLeish, Grant, Faulkner? This is Aston Villa not Halesowen Town |
meregolfclub
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... replayed the match before watching scouse v spuds. The fundamental difference was that spuds/scouse played one /two touch football and pass and move. although 0-0 was a good match to watch. anyone still got the villa match on tape look at the villa 3,4and 5 touch and the bloody ball was still not under total control and then ...who do i pass it to? No one was showing for the ball (except keane) no movement meaning the player on the ball has to make an adjustment just to pass the ball to a villa player and usually backwards. The manager must address this as this is the reason we are losing possession and putting pressure on ourselves. this is what THE MANAGER is being paid to do JUST DO IT ALEX...everything else will follow utv |
Albri-12
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... Protests planned for Sunday. Something needs to happen because under AM will go down. we have only got worse as the season has gone on. |
gmjvilla
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... Message to our uninvited guests from The Tyne... Come back once you've won an European Cup. Coming on here trying to play holier than thou because you're having a half decent season... Get over yourselves... Newcastle is a stepping stone club for unproven foreign players... Let's see where u are next season when BA, Tiote and Cabaye leave for a bigger clubs... Jokers |
25yardDalian
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... McKnob has a squad at his disposal and just plays them all out of position: Clark CB not CM Heskey CF ot LW Bannan CM not RW Ireland AM not RW Then he has the audacity to rage at the players for not doing the job proper (ref Ireland at the W/E) what next Bent at CB then moan for giving a pen away like he did at the arse. CLUELESSSSSSSSSSSS And yes for the hell of it Gregory til the end of the season - remember last time? relegation fodder then finished 7th |
clevelandvillian
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... According to the BBC gossip page McClueless is now manager of the Scum again.....Excellent Birmingham City manager Alex McLeish will order his players to acknowledge their supporters at the end of games after many of them ignored their away fans after the defeat at Newcastle. |
divine_islet
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...clevelandvillian said: Or maybe they mistook us for Birmingham city of last season,considering how apalling our football is! |
John Salter
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... Mon 4-5-1 - Sorry I've only just seen your comment. What I mean about AMc on the touchline, is that at least it show's he cares. It doesn't he's getting it right because he clearly isn't but he's trying, very trying! Let's face it, he should never have got the job but that's Mr Lerners fault and now Villa are having their worse season in years, something I believe we all predicted when AMc's name first came to light and why 10,000 of us are staying away from Villa Park. |
BenW
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... I think we deserved the win on the strength of our second-half dominance, but you certainly deserved to be at least level at the break. Bent's clever running and Keane's habit of dropping deep to find space were causing our defence more problems than many attacks have done this season. A useful double act. N'Zogbia could be a very good player for you too, and showed it in flashes, but really needs to get some consistency. Horrible challenge from Warnock on Ryan Taylor - should probably have been a red card. Our report: http://www.blackandwhiteandrea...villa.html |
SydneyVilla
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... Well after my last post was refused,perhaps i'm allowed to say this ,get down to the protest and make a difference,not just this week,but week in week out until we get rid of this idiot. Then we'll start on the owner...!!! |
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