Tuesday, 20 July 2010 08:47
There is a huge reason why this rumour of us wanting to pay £10mn for a winger who has only ever played in Scotland isn't true and if you haven't figured it out from this opening paragraph, I will explain.
You do not play £10mn for any player from Scotland. It is like finding a player from the Championship and paying £10mn - it just doesn't happen and for good reasons.
There is a huge difference between playing in Scotland every week and the Premier League. Don't get me wrong, Celtic and Rangers could join us in this league and do well in time but no other team.
Now, there could be some substance in the rumour but not at £10mn and if it was anything close to that, by a £5mn plus, I'd start to question the sanity of O'Neill and suggest he has to go speak with someone for an hour each week.
But that is the reason why the price will be nothing close to £10mn - O'Neill isn't mad.
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Capital villa
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... Sorry, but didnt we pay 8m for Petrov 3 years ago, surely not much different? so if that the only reason you are saying that it isnt true, Im still inclined to think that it could happen. Although I would be disappointed. |
cess
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... Am I the only Villa fan wondering why we never agressively went in for Joe Cole? You just knew that we would never be at the races so he signs for a team that finished LOWER than Villa last season. Wouldn't it be nice to finish a season and suddenly sign our targets and have them available for pre-season training/bonding etc. I'm sorry I just don't understand what is happening these days. Cess |
Gareth Fletcher
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... In fairness we paid £8 Million for Cuellar, £6.5 Million for Petrov and about £7.5 Million for Delph if memory serves me correctly so to suggest that Martin O'Neill would not pay £10 Million for an unproven in the premier league player is a bit of a nonsense. Even though I am Irish I hope we do not sign McGeady, he cannot even make it into the starting 11 for Ireland. He is a bit rubbish in my opinion. If we do sign him, I hope he makes me eat my words. |
Mowgs
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... Cess £90,000 a week for Joe Cole's wages. Hence why we didn't go for him. Not going to blow the whole wage structure on one player. Especially one who appears to have had his day. Ancelotti is pretty shrewd, they wouldn't have let him go without reason. Capello clearly doesn't rate him too highly either. |
VilllatillIdie
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... Damian on this occasion is quite wrong about the quality of some of the Scottish players. Celtic in particular would be more than capable of holding their own in the EPL. They make our own cherished ground, training facilities, and fan base seem a little behind the times. As for McGeady... 10 mil is in actual fact a fair reflection of his worth. Perhaps we in the Midlands are sometimes unaware of our own lack of credibility elsewhere in the UK.  |
tim florence
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... the reason we didn't bid for cole is obvious: he's massively over-valued, over-rated abd over-hyped. over the last six seasons he's averaged 17 games a season and that's not enough to justify 80k plus a week plus a substantial signing on fee. simple |
jk92293
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... how much was Cueller, and how much was Petrov 4-5 years ago? surely with the inflted prices, its about right for either Celtic orrangers star players? |
cvilla
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... I would be stunned if we were even prepared to pay £5 million for a guy who flatters to deceive, even some of his own fans lament his lack of end product especially in games when it really matters. To add insult to injury, Celtic are interesting in buying Liam Lawerence from Stoke as a replacement for £1.75 million who keeps McGeady out of the ROI team. |
Gwatkins
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... This is good news asuming its true..... http://www.tribalfootball.com/...ay-984581 |
Willhelm
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... McGeanho isn't worth two Punts, never mind millions. His final ball is terrible, his attitude is disgusting and he's well known for being a little Prima Donna. Best thing to do, is ask him to go home again. |
Jinksy2
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... But that is the reason why the price will be nothing close to £10mn - O'Neill isn't mad.
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Celtic Fan
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... For a club who have won nothing for decades where do you get your arrogance from? Celtic and Ranger have both played in UEFA cup finals in the last 7 years and both got passed the group stages in the Champions league in recent seasons. What have Villa done...reach the final of the League Cup in England. A cup the big teams, i.e NOT YOU, cannot be bothered to play in. Oh and you lost it if I recall! |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Jesus thats ridiculous logic, the rumour aint true because we are linked with a 10million move, maybe you need to speak with some1 an hour a week. Mcgeady will be class for us, do any of you even know anything about players and fee's befor you dismiss them, or is it just gone to the stage that you disagree with every move Oneill does. Its ridiculous all the blues fans on here wanting him out, if that happens we are back down s**t lane, soem of you are under the illusions that our recent revival is nothing to do with the manaer, and that he is inept ad stupid. Well ye musnt have a clue about football, if that s how ye think. I suppose youd happily pay 15 for sami Defour, playing in the belgium league. United paid how much for hernandez out of a mexican league?? McGeady is a class winger who can turn a game, and is young, and im sure oneill with the way he develops talent will make mcgeady 2011 young player of the year and make it a hat trick of titles. WHat a managerwe have, lets get behind him and pull your thumb out of your ass |
Damian
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... VilllatillIdie no i am not wrong. i even said in my post above how celtic and rangers could do well in time - i am not wrong - you simply didn't read what i wrote everyone else quoting cuellar and petrov first petrov is a faithful servant and was nowhere near £10mn second - cuellar, was not £10mn and he had proven experience in la liga - i think even finishing 4th in that league MY POINT IS - mcgeady is completely unproven outside of scotland and £10mn is madness for that and it wont, or shouldn't be allowed to happen dont get me wrong - there might be some truth in the rumour - but at that price it would be madness |
Snake
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... Hi Guys, I am a Celtic fan and 10 Million for McGeady is fair. Some of the players in England with NO ability or limited ability who go for 2,3,5 or 7 million is ridiculous and many of them do not have an ounce of the talent McGeady has. McGeady's stats are good albeit in the SPL but he is also creative in European football and has starred in the CL on many occasions for Celtic. I take the point about Liam Lawrence going to Celtic for 1.75 as a replacement but the boy has ability and playing in a bigger league might do wonders for him. Remember that ONeill was the manager who gave him his start. He is not as good as Ronaldo or Messi but the fans at Villa will enjoy watching him, left side or right side. |
Liamo1981
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... I have backed O'Neill in most things he has done, but if he signs McGeady for 10m i would be pretty disappointed. he is not worth 5m in my book and just not a very good player in my opinion. |
Chiefy
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... Anyone thing that Lichaj will be given a chance this season against lesser opposition maybe ? |
JimVilla
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... I think McGeady is worth £10 mill in the current market. He's gone through the Celtic ranks, got european and international experience, and they turned down £8million from Spartak Moscow so not going to be much under £10 mill. He'll do well for us if we get him. Great passer of the ball, good dribbler and commits players opening space around him. Ashley made some positive statements last night so maybe this would give hium more licence to play in the middle off the striker(s) if we do lose Milner. Options, good quality young options = bright future. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... cess I'm sorry I just don't understand what is happening these days. you f**king moron , when do you ever, ever remember villa signing bigger players than liverpool?? wake up you fool, and come back to reality |
Gwatkins
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... jk92293 - it was quotes from ashley young saying he wnted to stay at the club, that had developed under us and felt could learn more frm the manager. |
Chiefy
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...For a club who have won nothing for decades where do you get your arrogance from? That sort of puts us in our place, and he is does have a point |
ak_27
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... £10m for a back up winger? A back up winger with a few major flaws to his game. Flaws that actually go againest the managers own philoshpy on the game ie cros, cross cross. McGeady cannot cross his legs. If he signs him for this ammount and he fails then i hope this is the signing that brings MON's tenure at this club to an end. If we do have finacial constraints which i do believe we have at the moment i really would be disgusted at paying £10m for McGeady when there are far more pressing issues to be sorted out elsewhere in the team. |
nix2
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... Celtic Fan is not a true Celtic fan, look at the spelling. For starters this person can spell, and use a computer. Thus equating to the fact they are not a Celtic fan |
JimVilla
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... Petrov was 6.5 million which rose to £8 million in add ons. If you add inflation then that's in the same ball park and McGeady is a younger man. I recall similar gripes about Milner and Young at the time. £10 mill for one of the most exciting players in the SPL is good value. Celtic are a huge club and rising to the top isn't easy. He's 24 and the personal achievements for club and country show that he is far more than unproven talent: Celtic FC Young Player of the Year (2005, 2006, 2007) Celtic FC Fans Player of the Year (200  Celtic FC Players' Player of the Tear (2008, 2010) SPFA Players' Player of the Year (200 SPFA Young Player of the Year (200 BBC Sportsound Player of the Year (200 Clydesdale Bank Young Player of the Year (200 Scottish Premier League Player of the Month (5) Scottish Premier League Young Player of the Month (6) Eircom Republic of Ireland Young Player of the Year (2009) |
v1ll4
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... chris smalling....£10m+ from the championship....no prem experience.....no european experience. why would man united spend that on an unproven player???.....potential!!!! mcgeadie has already proved in europe that he doesnt just have potential, he has ability, and he has shown this against better opponents than most of the premiership. We would be doing well to get him and who says tranfer prices arent crazy, £70m quoted for torres and david villa sold for £34m, in my book villa is twice the player that torres is! Sorry mate, you are embarressing yourself with your lack of footbally knowledge. |
ak_27
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...For a club who have won nothing for decades where do you get your arrogance from? As an Irishman i will say this the scottish league is a joke. Your team is full of championship players and your PL is the equilivant of League one in England. Yes Celtic and Rangers are big clubs but finacially you are both broke and have teams full of rubbbish players. |
Gareth Fletcher
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... Wow Celtic Fan, the top two teams in the SPL make it through to the Champions League, it is not like there is much competition from anyone else in that league. As far as the UEFA cup finals are concerned, haven't Fulham & Middlesborough both made it to finals in the past number of years? Middlesborough who are now a Championship side. Anyway, if we do sign McGeady for that amount I would be a bit miffed but as previously stated I hope he makes me eat my words about him. Anytime I have seen him play for Ireland (Cant be bothered watching the SPL as it is s**t) he has been s**te. |
Willhelm
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... Something Villa fans should understand about the Sellik supporters. They are mentalists and don't live in the real world. As for Aiden McGeanho - troublemaker, traitor and out and out bigot, why would you sign him? Stick to what you have lads and keep away from the dross. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... He does have a point chiefy, something ive come to realise, is that we are only a regional club who have achieved nothing in the last 25 years that would make top, top players come to us, outside of birmingham we are just not feared or respected as we think we should be, putting all this into perspective think of the managers job in having to bring in players to improve, and who will hold a respect for the club. We can all whinge at clubs like wigan, signing a valencia and palacious, and say what the f**k are we doing, but after one good season those players are gone, and the rebuilding begins. If we are on the periphery of the champs league we are always gona have a few player slinked with bigger clubs, and were not going to be able to keep them if there head is turnd, its the mighty task we are up against and some of the fans expectations are so wild and wide of the mark it atually makes a difficult job harder. Ever wonder why the like of a heskey did well at smaller clubs?? Given time and respect by the fans and supported on, then the player plays without fear, darren bent is another example. Some f**king morons on here demand better from there club, and dont settle for medicrity, but reallys its these absolute f**king retarded shhit heads like the simeons, who hold the club back with their bad support. Asto villa fans get over yourselves, we are not barca- f**king -lona, we are aston villa, a regional club in a hick town in the middle of a wet and cold windy s**tty island, now if you are a multi millionaire football player who can go anywhere in hte world where would you? Birmingham city ya thats right? aston who??? Ya thats right, start supporting our club and get us back on map you whinging idiots |
ak_27
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... JimVilla trust me when i say McGeady is not a good passer. He is a very good dribbler of the ball and that is it. Yes it is very exciting at times but he runs with his head completely down and has no knowledge of what is going on around him. This is a very big gamble espically as the transfer fees seem to have dried up the last few yeras and £10m seems very excessive. Stephen Hunt keeps him out of the Irish team and he is average at best let me tell you. |
1967
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... Please ignore the racist rangers fan in the comments section who finds it witty to put in inuendos about the Irish in his comment then refers to the infamous famine song where rangers fans tell mcgeady to go home to ireland, probibly a reason why we wants to move away from scumbags like that in scotland! As for McGeady as a player if he can improve his final ball and shooting he is will make ten million look like a steel. The guy has bags of skill and pace to burn and really does have the abillity to be a top prem player. |
Villa_Chris
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...Asto villa fans get over yourselves, we are not barca- f**king -lona, we are aston villa, a regional club in a hick town in the middle of a wet and cold windy s**tty island, now if you are a multi millionaire football player who can go anywhere in hte world where would you? Birmingham city ya thats right? aston who??? Ya thats right, start supporting our club and get us back on map you whinging idiots  Love it |
Gareth Fletcher
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... Greg Davillain1887, Why would anyone settle for being mediocre? Imagine saying the nonsense you have spouted during a half time team talk. "Don't worry lads we are not Barca-f**king-Lona, we are Aston Villa. Don't strive to achieve." Why would people not want to see the club doing better? Why would people not want to see us signing the best players? I don't see any negativity here. I think everyone would support McGeady if he did arrive, no one would want to see any of our players under achieve or do badly. People are allowed to have their own opinions on matters but yours is more negative than anything else I have read on here. |
Celtic Fan
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...Celtic Fan is not a true Celtic fan, look at the spelling. For starters this person can spell, and use a computer. Thus equating to the fact they are not a Celtic fan I guess if I supported a team who had hee-haw success or achievement in the last 30 years to shout about I would resort to petty personal insults as well. |
Kenny
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... Mcgeady is a one trick pony who has a bad habit of doing a trick followed by running the ball out of play. He on the odd occasion can entertain and do something constructive, but far too often he is inconsistent. If Aston villa sign him for £10 million they are off their heads, i would say £4 million would be fairer, as i have my doubts that he could hack it in the EPL. In saying that i could see him being an impact player and coming off the bench. To the guy who said that Mcgeady would win the EPL young player of the year 2011. I didn't know they gave young player of the year to 25 year olds, because thats what age he will be. |
vivavilla
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... Celtic Fan Fulham and Middlesbrough have proved a bang average side can reach the final of the Junior Euro Cup, so you don't have a leg to stand on there I'm afraid. Your league is full of teams like Southend and Swindon and failures like John Hartson Giorgios Samaras look like goal scoring machines. How many Scottish exports have gone on to be massive successes in the Premiership? Jog on mate, I'd rather be an above average Premiership side than have a cupboard full of worthless silverware playing in Scotland's equivalent of League One. |
JimVilla
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... I disagree ak27, I think he has excellent awareness and his floor passing is very consistent. Yes his crossing isn;'t the most consistent but not bad and he's developing all the time. 28 caps for Rep of Ireland..he's only 24 and he's starting to establish himself and has more potenital to fulfill. Robertson and ONeill will complete his training and he will become a Jedi of the flank. We will see if we get him, how much we pay and how he is after 2 seasons...I just hope you lot give him time if we do get him, sounds like some are already sharpening the knives! |
Ojay-Villa
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... Sorry but that is BULL!!! Aiden is worth even more then 10million, he is an amazing talent. I am irish an i know alot about this player and what he can do. He would be a great addition to our team, he's quick,he has skill and he can score. So dont talk about Aiden as been just a scottish league player! He'a an international player aswell and he would suit the premiership just like when ashley young arrived. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... viva villain, in fairness over the years if you picked scotlands best ever 11 theys probably hammer any best 11 english side you could put out, and dont mind the team of 66' cuz that was a game you should never have won, being on home soil and getting a goal that never crossed the line, how pathetic is that, yep the likes of dalglish, law, hansen and the scots that built the great liverpool team of the 80's woul dbeat any best english 11 you could ever put out, but your right after seria a, la liga, budesliga, league 1, and the premiership, scotlands league would be coming in after these, but celtic is a much bigger club than us, and has a european cup, which is our only claim to fame, and without that little blip in 82 we would be shown up for the underachieving club we are. Thats why i dont get the fans demands and expectations, especially since we are on the rise again and look in the most secure and strong position for over a decade |
v1ll4
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... vivavilla, mate if we could make the final of the junior euro cup, i would be shouting it from the rooftops, we also currently have two of our most consistent players from the spl, cuellar and petrov. bet you still believe that the world is flat, open your eyes, we are a medium size team in a big league and oneill is doing well to keep us at the top end, given other clubs investment, can you not remember the bad old days?? i wouldnt mind having celtic/rangers problems, playing in front of 60,000, champs league, winning trophies, how good can it be to constantly play and know you will most probably never win a trophy playing for villa??? we need more players with winning mentalities ie celtic/rangers.. |
Celtic Fan
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...Wow Celtic Fan, the top two teams in the SPL make it through to the Champions League, it is not like there is much competition from anyone else in that league. The point I was making is that they got through the group stages of the CL to the last 16. Celtic have beaten AC Milan, Man Utd, Lyon, Benfica and more at home in the CL in recent years, away record is awful of course but we have had some great nights in Glasgow beating some of the best in Europe.... despite the poor state of the game in Scotland. When Villa have tasted some that then you can look down your nose at us. |
ak_27
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...I think he has excellent awareness and his floor passing is very consistent. Could not disagree more to be honest and i have seen this guy play a lot as i normally watch Celtic games plus every irish game. I do actually like McGeady and is a guy i want to do well but as a Villa fan first im looking at this and thinking do we have the money to spend on another bloddy winger? £10m todays market seems way too much for a player who cannot cross the ball. And i mean he cannot cross the ball at all. He is shocking at it. Robertson and ONeill will complete his training and he will become a Jedi of the flank. Like they have sorted out Young's crossing over the last 18 months? If we spend £10m on another winger and do not sort out the CM, Striker and especially the RB problems due to a lack of funds then i just cannot accept that. Esp as Martin Petrov was available on a free.A guy with far more ability then McGeady. |
Matt1976
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... Didn't we buy Milner with very little end product and didn't O'Neil turn him into the player that he is now? If McGeady can work with the Villa staff to produce the end product, then he will be a really good buy at £10M. Lets not forget that we are meant to be supporters of AVFC and give some backing to the immense leaps we have made over the past few years instead of living in a dream world where we think we can mix it with the big boys overnight. UTV |
Kenny
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... AK-27 AND VIVAVILLA I disagree that the spl is at the same level as the English first. The Championship is full of Scottish rejects, yet these scots in the championship have been among that leagues better players. And every time i switched sky sports on last season all i kept hearing from x English players was how Charlie Adam was by far the best player in the Championship. And this is the same Charlie Adam who found it hard to get a game for Rangers. So please explain this phenomenen to me. |
Timmyrara
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... Greg Davillain1887 - Eloquently put and I agree whole heartedly. The so called fans (and I use that term begrudgingly) on this blog are the main reason that I barely visit this site anymore and I see that a lot of the original contributors that followed Damian to and from the O****e days no longer comment as well. I can only assume it is for exactly the same reasons. Even the posts by Damian, even though I appreciate the hard work and effort that goes into maintaining a site like this, seem to be consistently doom and gloom orientated. I for one at the moment love being a villa fan and supporting the team I have followed for almost 30years. I remember some amazing European nights at Villa Park and chasing Manure all the way to finish 2nd in the early days of the premier league and I have never known times at the Park so good. Leave MON alone, he is widely accepted as one of the best managers in the Premier League by people who know a little more about football than most of you morons, if you force him out there is currently no one better available, perhaps you would prefer a foreign manager Dr Jozef Venglos anyone? Or perhaps we should sign some cheap unproven foreign player just because they are cheaper Bosko Balaban anyone? Yes I would love some big names at the Villa and I’m sure MON and RL would too. I’m sure MON realises that we need a 20+ striker and a play maker in the middle and maybe even a proper right back. I for one think MON and RL are doing a great job. They are building a very good squad around a strong nucleus of consistency with some very exciting young talent that will hopefully see Villa go from strength to strength for many years to come. UTV! |
Greg Davillain1887
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... gar fletcher Why would anyone settle for being mediocre? Imagine saying the nonsense you have spouted during a half time team talk. "Don't worry lads we are not Barca-f**king-Lona, we are Aston Villa. Don't strive to achieve."(your a tool your putting words in my mouth) You obviously cant read or you dont comprehend the point, im not saying we should be happy with being mediocre, im just saying the expectation laid on the club by the fans for where we are as a club should be more realisitc, its right to hope and strive to be better, but it has to be done in a realisitic fashion. If we get champions league football regulary, then we can say oneill 'missed out on' players like the sneidjers, coles of this world if we dont begin to sign them, but for people to be spouting that oneill missed a trick in not signing cole, is ridiculous and absurd, the expectation doesnt anywhere match the means of the club, and the people who spead their false unrealistic expectaions through the blog are only corrupting young minds and breathing contempt when we sign the players within our means and it totally undermines the club and manager. We all hope to win the lotto, but we really dont expect to, and we dont go and shoot the shop keeper when dont hit 6 numbers and the bonus. So hope and dream all you want, il live in the real world and appreciate what the club are trying to do, and watch how they are trying to improve us and strive to be better, but i wont call for the managers head when we dont sign lionel messi, because at aston villa we are at a certain cycle in our development and it needs our total support to push on, any new players coming in should be welcomed not critized and given every chance to go out and perform with at least the support of the home fans |
JimVilla
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... Gareth Fletcher: "I don't see any negativity here. I think everyone would support McGeady if he did arrive, no one would want to see any of our players under achieve or do badly". Is that the same kind of love that Heskey and Downing have enjoyed this year? How about the manager? Everyone on here really want to see him succeed because it doesn't read that way or feel that way some weeks at Villa Park. It's not about positive or negative - no-one wants to be called negative even if they are glass half empty miserable c**ts, it's about support for the sake of supporting. If you want to be a maneger do your badges and get out there, if not be a fan and support your team in sickness and in health. Not all signings will work out for any manager, but congratulate him when they do and don't latch onto them when they don't if you want to avoid looking negative. |
vivavilla
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...viva villain, in fairness over the years if you picked scotlands best ever 11 theys probably hammer any best 11 english side you could put out Funny, funny stuff. |
ak_27
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...we would be shown up for the underachieving club we are. And with fans like you so willing to just accept mediocrity then what else would you expect. And you have the nerve of calling other Villa fans blue noses. Or perhaps we should sign some cheap unproven foreign player just because they are cheaper Bosko Balaban anyone? Timmy do you want me to go through some of MON's great british signings since he has become our manager who have sat on our bench for years and drained the club of a fortune? |
JimVilla
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... and as for Celtic being s**te, behave yourselves. Larrsson was amazing in the SPL and wasn't too shabby at Barcelona either. I bet McGeady was Belgian or Croation you'd talk differently, and their leagues are weak compared to the Prem too. |
vivavilla
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...And every time i switched sky sports on last season all i kept hearing from x English players was how Charlie Adam was by far the best player in the Championship. Easy, you just look at the division you're talking about. |
ak_27
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... And by the way i don't believe we ever had any chance of getting the likes of Joe Cole. His wages would ahve been too much plus he would not have wanted to come here. I do agree that is being too unrealistic. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Timmyrara, THanks mate, ya in fairness how some people cant appreciate where we are, and the work the manager and oneill has done and is doing. Ive seen a lot of oneill outside of villa, in interviews on youtube etc, and the man is full of intelligence, wit, nostalgia, and expierience, the amount of stories he remebers from his football playing days is class and intersting, and the game hasnt relly changed much, its still 111 men trying to outscore each other on a football pitch. Agents and money have corrupted the game all right and egos are swelled but we've a great man at the helm. THere is a depth to the man that people dont seem to get on here, they just think he is a bamry eccentric but i can see the method to his madness and i wholeheartedly believe he knows a helluva lot more about football, and players than people like to give credit for. He is maybe a victim of his own success and also the emmergence of city and spurs have taken us 2 places down the league. Im sure itl be straightened out this year, we will have so much to spend but in randy and martin i trust. Ps i remember you from the old days, good to see you posting again, nice to have a clear head around the place |
ak_27
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... Kenny where do you think the likes of Hamilton, Kilmarnock Motherwell ect would finish in the championship? I'll tell you where in the bottom 3 that where. Celtic and Rangers are above this level but are not PL standard. Im not saying that both clubs aren't massive football clubs but the financial chains of the scottish league has lead both teams to be now full of extremely average players. The current Scottish player of the year could not hack it at either Villa (but would have actually liked MON to have given him a bit more time though) or Fulham. |
vogra.
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... hahaha i'm loving this blog today, i've never laughed so much on here for a while...Greg Davillain 1987, as much as id like to say your talking rubbish, i cant....i agree with pretty much everything you say.. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... ak27 Ah dear child please tell where i said im happy yo settle for mediocrity??? And as a club who has won one league title in the last 95 years, you wouldnt call this underachievement no?? and who are you telling is happy to settle for mediocrity??? Let me use an example you probably wont get it.. but if you try to engage your brain you might be able to realise my thinking. A poor father who live in a hut, askes his hungry son what he'd like for xmas, the son knowing his father is wretchedly poor asks his father for a ferrari for xmas, the father turns embarresest agasp to his son, 'i cant get you that son' but the son whinges and complains, and tells his friends his father is useless and wont provide for him his wishes, the father gets a job at mcdonalds, and works five years, and still cant get a ferrari.... get my point. You probably dont good luck with that |
Gareth Fletcher
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... Greg Davillain1887, Why resort to name calling? Apart from one person going on about not signing Joe Cole there has been no one else on here complaining about where we are or have questioned Martin O'Neill or Randy Lerners running of the club. Maybe you are misinterpreting everyone elses posts? Some people think that McGeady isn't the best of players or don't think he is worth £10 Million, how is that not appreciating where we are at? |
JimVilla
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... AK 27 - if you're referring to A.Young, Milner, Downing, Dunne, Collins, Reo Coker, Delph, Davies, Sidwell, Heskey, Shorey, Luke Young, Sutton (on a free), Routlege (£1.5 million), Zat Knight (3.5 mill), Harry Forrester (£250k) then I think they have all been good signings. Some better than others obviously and you can't win them all but when you look at where were were before with Hendrie and McCann holding the middle of the park - give me Sidwell and Reo Coker any day of the week. I have left Harewood off the list for obvious reasons but even he has scored some important goals: equaliser against Liverpool in January 2008, an equaliser in Europe and he was amazing against Arsenal when we beat them 2 - 0 away in 2008...I remember standing their thinking "what the f**k is going on, Harewood is a revelation" (the feeling was admittedly short lived). |
AussieLion
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...Am I the only Villa fan wondering why we never agressively went in for Joe Cole? You just knew that we would never be at the races so he signs for a team that finished LOWER than Villa last season. Wouldn't it be nice to finish a season and suddenly sign our targets and have them available for pre-season training/bonding etc. Although I agree he would be a good signing, it is very obvious why we didnt get him. First of all 90 000 a week would destroy our wage structure which we are trying to reduce. He also isnt worth that much as although he is a good player he is very injury prone and I doubt we would get much out of him. Also I doubt that he would even consider coming here when he has so many other options. And just because we finished above Liverpool it was only by a point. This does not make us a bigger club than Liverpool as they will probably bounce back if they keep their players and they are also a much more popular club which is shown by their ability to sign players like Cole for 90 000 a week. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... jimvilla congratulate him when they do and don't latch onto them when they don't if you want to avoid looking negative. well put mate, |
Kenny
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... ak-27 Point taken about the financial situation in the spl, but i have seen enough of the championship to know it's awful. I do think your underestimating Rangers and Celtic a bit though, as both would become wealthy beyond belief overnight if they played in the EPL. (BUT THAT WONT HAPPEN). Anyway Scotlands financial situation means more young players are coming through the ranks now, for the first time in decades. I read somewhere that there are 25 Scots in the EPL, I was pleasantly surprised at this news so it's not all bad. Yet England have went backwards at bringing through there own talent, mainly due to the amount of non English players in the league now. So England have problems too. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... jimvilla your bang on about heskey downing and the manager, sometimes it does look like some fans revel in theses 3 having a bad day, the 'i told you so' brigade who will be delighted to be right even if its to the detriment of the club, these people should love to be proved wrong when they come out with their 'constructive critisizms' |
Gareth Fletcher
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...and as for Celtic being s**te, behave yourselves. Larrsson was amazing in the SPL and wasn't too shabby at Barcelona either. I bet McGeady was Belgian or Croation you'd talk differently, and their leagues are weak compared to the Prem too. Ah come on Jim, the SPL was decent about 8 years ago, but even the most die hard Old Firm supporters must see it has been in decline ever since. The standard of player that the top two in the SPL can attract has really gone downhill. |
ak_27
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... Greg Davillain1887 who here is calling for superstars? You're the one that got their knickers in a twist today because some of us question the wisdom in the rumoured purchase of yet another winger (who cannot cross a ball to save his life)for £10m. Now do you think that is what we should be doing right now to move this club on? As for your acceptance of mediocrity you may not have stated it per say but your constant looking to make everything MON has done since he has taken charge to look like a miracle job dispite the fact we have spent £140m in 4 years and play some of the most dire, outdated and predictable football in the league shows you willingness to accept the staus quo no matter what. He is maybe a victim of his own success What sucess? I will again quote £140m spent. All other Villa managers combined haven't spent this ammout. and the game hasnt relly changed much Maybe you should really open that little mind of yours as the English game has changed hugely with the influx of foreign footballers over the last 10-15 years. Only thing is our manager is one of the only guys who hasn't noticed it. Something you must must have in common with the man. |
Gareth Fletcher
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... I Wrote Apart from one person going on about not signing Joe Cole there has been no one else on here complaining about where we are or have questioned Martin O'Neill or Randy Lerners running of the club. Maybe you are misinterpreting everyone elses posts? I am also going to add AK_27 to that |
VillaDude
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... Looks like Sidwell has gone, as he didn't feature in the last 2 matches..Wonder why it hasn't been anounced officially? |
ak_27
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...I do think your underestimating Rangers and Celtic a bit though, as both would become wealthy beyond belief overnight if they played in the EPL. (BUT THAT WONT HAPPEN). If Rangers and Celtic were to join the Pl they would eventually both be extremely dangerous clubs i have no doubt about this. My point really is (and i watch the SPL) is that over the last 5 years the league has detiorated and the calibre of players at the old firm just isn't what it used to be up there. Thats why some are qusetioning McGeady's ability to be a success in England especially if the the price is £10m. Thats a lot of money and he really hasn't set the place alight with the ROI. |
taglor
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... Gregdavillain I have worked it out, you're a villa player, probably one of the younger ones. I know this due to one simple fact, the inability to use the English language in any way other than text speak and bad spelling, you poor simple boy. |
DavidC
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... "Maybe you should really open that little mind of yours as the English game has changed hugely with the influx of foreign footballers over the last 10-15 years" Up to a point. Its still the same old names at the top. Its still the same old names at the bottom. The lineups are the same, but the net result is always the same. |
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... After being stuck behind Farmer Giles hay trailor for an internity, we finally got to the game last night. Missed around twenty minutes and the first two goals, but did see enough to make me less apprehensive for the new season, IF martin, whom we never noticed at the game, takes a few things on board. Firstly, to NRC... Basicly he covered every blade of grass and was up and down the pitch all evening. His passing has improved, and his inclusion gave Petrov a lot more freedom. Personally, he could save us a small fortune if the gaffer can bury the hatchet. Eric Licaj. Played left back last night, but seems to have added some extra body strength which you need in the premier. He was comfortable on the Ball, showed excellent positional awareness, good distribution, and actually looks up when he plays the ball. He could be the reason as to why we are prepared to get rid of both Beye and Luke Young. Ashley Young played inside and just a little behind Carew which had him involved throughout the game. Hopefully Martin has seen the light and now realises that this is proberly his best position. Carew himself was excellent. Reciving and holding the ball, then bringing others into play. He was an handfull for the Boro centre backs, and scored twice. What more could we ask? If Heskey is prefered in front of him, then Randy will need to fire Oniel!!. Albrighton and Downing gave good balence and service down the flanks, and Downings corner was a peach! Now to Milner..... Not sure if theres anything in it, but Bannon wore the eight shirt last night, with the same number shirt allocated to Milner in the program/pamphlet thingy. |
vivavilla
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... Kenny You're trying to convince me that the SPL is a quality league because there are some good Scottish players in the Championship. Keep on trying mate. |
Damian
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... Greg Davillain 1887 How cam oneill make mcgeady the young player of the year for next season ... assuming he did sign? Also, in terms of expectations, who mentioned champions league in five seasons and top class players If you think it isnt possible our that oneill is the best we can hope for then you have exactly what you want and you are a satisfied supporter. Some believe we can do better. Some have witnessed it and some hope for better. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Gareth.... its an on going thing, maybe today is your first day on hte blog, but anti martin oneill vibe is gathering pace, and as a villa blog i feel most fans do more complaining more than anything else and i just had enough of it today, so the cole thing is the straw that broke the camels back for me. Ak27, Yes the english game may have more foreigners but a game of football is a still a game of football. Did you watch the clough documentry the other night?? clugh v don revvie of leeds? clough was arguing that football should be played on the deck, some people in here laugh at oneill saying he is from the old school, but his former mentor played football the right way, and you wait and see, our style of football will get better as we get better, we have adopted a certain style to make us stable, a lot of people jsut lack patientience, the club has been going in the right direction, and until it doesnt i wont accept all the crap and complaining from people who claim they want better from the club |
jimboAVFC
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... damian, whats this blog for??? to have meaningful debates about aston villa, the club we love, about signings and what we would like to take us forward or to moan like bitches!!!???? cause i can't tell the difference at the moment. when will people realise, we've got it the best we've ever had it at the moment. ak_27 said our football is awful and that all our previous managers didn't spend the same amount as o'neill but this is irrelevant cause the market has changed. 10 years ago, players weren't paid £150k per week and we didn't pay £10-15m for OK players. this is the sort of money we have to pay to maintain a top 6 status. i for one wont be commenting on this blog anymore, cause the majority of people who comment on here clearly are not villa fans. |
VillaDude
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... Maybe MON planning to play Young behind the strike this season with Downing and McGeady swapping wings... Maybe all these rumours about Ireland, Parker, Witzel are all crap... |
vogra.
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... If Rangers and Celtic did come into the Premiership at this given point i couldn't see them finsihing any higher than the top half, but with time and the size of both clubs and the revenue they'de make in the Premiership they'de be fighting it out at the Top of the Premiership in 3years.. |
DAJ
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...when will people realise, we've got it the best we've ever had it at the moment Not this old chestnut again  Ive seen a lot better, and i have actually seen us win something under Eliss. When Randy and Martin deliver that, then you may have a point  |
Chiefy
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...Maybe MON planning to play Young behind the strike this season with Downing and McGeady swapping wings wouldnt be the worst thing in the world |
rocky5
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...JimVilla said:biggest load of b****x i`ve read on here today and there has been some b****x.a majority of these players you mention have been absolute garbage,add the wages these players have been paid too.you think sutton and routledge were good signings  |
VillaDude
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...wouldnt be the worst thing in the world But I would like to see a Parker/Ireland partnership instead of a Reo coker/Petrov, very much doubt it though. Petrov is untouchable at the moment... |
Thomas-Villa
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... OMG has O'Neil lost the plot - anything over 1m for an over rated player, who has no end product is quite simply the worst decision anyone could make for our club. To give mcgeady his due, he looks ok against the smaller teams up in Scotland, but still can't finish and when it comes to the big games - most people forget he's actually playing. Why on earth has someone mentioned Joe Cole on the thread? McGeady can't even get a game for Ireland, never mind in our world cup squad. |
Kenny
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... Before i go i would just like to say that sure English teams can out spend Scottish teams, not even Rangers or Celtic can compete financialy at the moment, but how much is English football in debt?. How much are villa in debt?. Who will be the next Leeds?. When will England start bringing through great players again like Peter shilton, Bryan robson,Gazza,Ray wilkins,Gary lineker, David platt,Tony Adams,Glen hoddle, Chris waddle, Trevor steven, John barnes, Peter beardsley etc etc etc. You might turn your noses up at other leagues just because plenty of money is getting thrown at the EPL, but at what cost?. |
ak_27
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...our style of football will get better as we get better, we have adopted a certain style to make us stable I seen that doc last year and i was shocked at how much Cloughie and MON were similar. He has def been inflenced a lot by the man but i ask you this would Clough survive in todays game? He also had something againest foreign players coming in. I do actually agree with you here and i think we have very slowly been moving towards a more footballing side but i just don't see what McGeady will do for this? He is just another up and at em type of player. We need some composed players that have guile and vision. The way Merson did. You can say it's a lack of patience but MON has been a long time now and still we await the RB to fixed. And a team cannot play composed football with a Cullar playing in the RB position. |
jimboAVFC
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... DAJ, don't be a villa fan then if you seen better. so is this what were going to do, moan and criticise our team until we win something. get real. |
Gareth Fletcher
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...Gareth.... its an on going thing, maybe today is your first day on hte blog, but anti martin oneill vibe is gathering pace, and as a villa blog i feel most fans do more complaining more than anything else and i just had enough of it today, so the cole thing is the straw that broke the camels back for me. First time to post on it but have read it for a while, I post on other forums and I agree the anti Martin O'Neill vibe has been gathering pace rapidly since last season, even though it was a fantastic season, our best in recent history. The club is heading in the right direction but in my opinion signing McGeady would not assist us in this. Besides it is all rumour and there has been no confirmed approach made by the club or Celtic. jimboAVFC Having debate is about not agreeing with someone elses opinion for example if you say something is black, but I think it is white I am going to try my best to make you see it as white. Don't throw your toys out just because you don't agree with what a few people post. |
DAJ
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...But I would like to see a Parker/Ireland partnership instead of a Reo coker/Petrov, very much doubt it though. Petrov is untouchable at the moment... It ws only a friendly i know, but on last nights performance...we really need to keep hold of NRC. We look more competitive with him in there, and for me.....hes better than Parker. Like i said, if Martin burys the hatchet, we could save ourselves a fortune. Petrov had more freedom to play last night, and that was down to NRC. Just my observation though. |
Chalky
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... Greg, Well said, and it needed to be said. Liked your AV supporter post yesterday too. Celtic fans thanks for the perspective. Most fans of other teams down here think we are doing well, it's just a few so called Villa fans who don't. Mediocrity – been used a lot on here recently. English football mediocrity, to me somewhere in the depths of the first division. We are better than that! Top 6 for anyone who has forgotten. |
ak_27
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...irrelevant cause the market has changed If its irrelevant then stop comparing MON to those who went before him and stating this is the best we've ever had it. |
owenybhoy
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... If villa give celtic £10M for mcgeady, let me know and i will drive him down to birmingham myself. mcgeady is not a team player, he never makes the right pass, always wants to beat 3 or 4 players, his passing, crossing and shooting are very poor. he is very fast and is very good at dribbling with the ball. £10m for mgeady.....yes please,lol |
jimboAVFC
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... ak_27, when did i compare MON to any of our previous managers??? your doing the comparing, not me. |
Andy
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... Greg Davillain 1887 .......Totally now have zero respect for your views. Call the like os Simeon and others names, you obviously show you have little intelligence or respect for the views or your fellow Villa fans. You have totally lost the plot. By saying we should accept what Villa are...(was it something along the lines of only being a 'regional club' thing you said...?) then again your opinion shows you clearly have no concept about modern football. If Aston Villa have your default beliefs then we would simply be a championship club at best. Aston Villa are actually one of the biggest clubs. Ok, we have not had success in recent years, but we have been there abouts. It only need a few shrewd decisions on the part of our owner and manager for us to finish top four, then build even further from that to be regular top four finishers and league champions contenders. Growing some balls man and aim high. If you aim low in life, you will only finish low. Aim high and you could actually finish high. Also you need to grow some ball Greg, because as soon as someone agrees with you, you atch onto them calling them mate and saying things like at least theres someone else on here talking sense. Stand on your own two feet and have you own opinions without calling all us that question anything or want success, even if it may not be achievable, stupid names. |
tecalee
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... Greg Davillain1887, Football is totally different nowadays and so are the fan's. Fan's today have access to the internet which fuels transfer rumours and people like there club associated with young stars or any class player, even if they are not true today's fan enjoys this. As a Villa fan this transfer window is so far a complete let down, we are only liked to players that there own clubs are trying to flog off. I am not saying we should be linked with players like Messi and so on, but just look at West Ham's transfer speculation there even reportedly put a bid in for young Brazilian sensation Neymar, they also reportedly had the best contract offer for J. Cole! It would be nice to read or see that Aston Villa have made a bid for a young sensation or class player, but no we get linked to Irish players with attitude problems  I love M'ON and would not want any other at the helm, but can someone please give him a nudge and wake him up. |
whitey09
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... mmmmm i stay away from here for the summer,i come back,and same old same old. gregdavillan you really need to get with reality mate,im assuming that you have supported our great club for a few years now from your comments, would you say that since the premiership in england was set up that we have hugely dissapointed with regards to winning silverware?or do you think we are where we should be? i ask the question because like you i have supported this great club for many a year and you mention realistic achievements for our club,well im sorry my freind but we have drastically underacheived,in truth we have done no more than say newcastle have,we might of won 2 league cups but they have been in champions league,something that we have been striving to achieve since the inception of the epl, we are realist us villa fans but maybe some of us are still desperate for a bit of success after so long without it,unfortunatly some of us dont believe we will find that with the current regime,but that dont make them any less a villa fan just cos they believe thats what might happen. i see your point in we cant be like man citeh or chelsea ect but whats wrong with wanting just that bit more,afterall isent that what the club wants from us season after season, for us to turn up and support the club? i for 1 can say ive been there and done it but as i get older my love for my club grows more but my desire to go and watch my club just because they are my club is not what it once was.dont brand others negative and noses just cos they disagree with you cos it will be you who loses out in the end when reality really does bite. |
whitey09
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... ak_27 its good to see your still here battling on, nice 1 soldier,and simeon we dont always agree but keep being realistic and your post are worth the read anytime mate. and chiefy - your gay |
DAJ
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... Jimbo.... Its horses for courses mate. Fans moan, whether they are Chelsea fans, Crewe fans or Villa Fans. We all like to proclaim we know better the manager because as individuals. we all see things differently. Like i said, i witnissed enough good things last night to put me in a more confident mood for the season ahead, and with a couple of good signings, we will challenge again. As for the first bit of your remark... Ive followed my club since i was six, back in the old third division days. I HAVE seen worse, and i HAVE DEFINATELY seen better. Ellis's biggest faults were his failure to build on the teams that Fat Ron, Brian Little, and John Gregory built. A little fine tuning with the addition of some class to those teams, and we may have been flying..... People are moaning because they see a similar thing happening with this side. And why shouldent they? We are very close to have a a very decent side. It just needs a little risk taking from the manager? |
DavidC
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... Its going to be a long old season this one coming up. Nothing to do with how well the team does - people's views are firmly entrenched. So entrenched that they can't see past their blinkers or preconceptions (on either side). |
Jonjo
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... McGeady is far too good for the likes of a Midlands nobody club such as Villa or Bham. You should be kissing Celtics boots for us even speaking to you. As for the bigots on here, heard it all before lads, water off a ducks back. Enjoy them sour grapes. |
ak_27
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...ak_27 its good to see your still here battling on, nice 1 soldier,and simeon we dont always agree but keep being realistic and your post are worth the read anytime mate. Hadn't really been on here or had an argument/debate in ages so with the season approaching i felt it was time for a pre season of my own. |
Chiefy
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...Sounds like a womens PMS forum in here chiefy - your gay Alright NOSE you dont post for ages then you think you can walk back in to my life !!! |
villa davew
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... why do we need McGeady and at £10mn no thanks i was at the game last night and Albrighton was really good so give him a go and save £10mn Eric Licaj had a good game aswell |
Gareth Fletcher
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... Think I am going to have to register this waiting around for moderation is a pain in the arse |
whitey09
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... for those who dont know, greg ect aston villa football club are the forth highest trophy winners in the history of the english game hence the "proud history,bright future" we keep banging on about, so those people who say weve never had it so gud then please check the achievements of this great club before stating that fact! we have every right,everybody does to want the very best for our club but how we go about gaining that differs from fan to fan, so just because we differ does that make us any less of a fan. we are a big club we are a famous club we are aston villa so greg and the rest who critise others grow up,we want what you want just differently thats all,and the name aston villa deserves better than what we have right now or what weve had the past 20 odd years or so. |
whitey09
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... ak_27, same here mate couldnt be arsed with the so called perfect crew telling us were wrong for having opinions,so im back for pre season like you lol. chiefy- less of the nose! gona miss ya this year my snood wearing freind |
Vi114boy
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... McGeady: useless at passing, useless at crossing, can beat 5 players yet couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo £10m yer havin a giraffe, he's being kept out the Irish team by a player rated at £1m. |
JimVilla
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... "I am not saying we should be linked with players like Messi and so on, but just look at West Ham's transfer speculation there even reportedly put a bid in for young Brazilian sensation Neymar, they also reportedly had the best contract offer for J. Cole!". Yup, and signed neither fortunately for them or administration would quickly follow. The internet can give you all the rumours your heart can take, if there's no truth in them or the targets are never going to come it is a complete waste of time and money, not to mention getting everyone excited. Is that your idea of ambition? Being linked with big or exotic names? We fly under the radar because when we used to go public just about every deal was hijacked by Spurs or City. Nothing has changed and there is no point the manager publishing his wish list...serves no-one but the red top hacks, agents, rival clubs and and selling clubs. The game has changed, and the art of buying players in a recession with the highest tax break in europe for top earners has also changed. Toure only went City because they have agreed to put his wages up to £240k when the tax increase kicks in. Spurs are yet to sign anyone and if they are feeling the pinch, what about us. Banks aren;t ledning and if they are interest rates are so high that Liverpool are paying way more than £90k a week if you dig a bit deeper. Truth is we are all ambitious in our own way, you have to be positive to be a football fan or you'd have given up long ago. Its not wrong to want big players but it's not a great idea to pin your hopes on winning the lottery every week either. I maintain that we are doing it the right way...you can't buy class but you can buy Adebayor. |
Andy
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... Just watched the video and the quick interview with Ash....Really like his attitude. Must say he's always had a great attitude while playing for Villa. Even when he was hyped up a year or so ago he's always looked like he's tried. OK, last season he loast form at times, but I also think that came about because of the way we played for most of last season. Now if MON can just sort it and have Ash playing just off the front man again, then I think we can see some good football. As some will know I've always advocated Ash playing in the role he did last night and it's frustrating MON has not done so, but Ash is that playmaker, that midfield lockpicker we have really been waitng for at Villa Park. I really don't think we need too many signings, maybe one or two of quality, because we already have some decent solid players that can play 'as a team'. It's just down to MON to lay them in the right positions as a team now, instead of laying his best 11. Your best 11 are never guaranteed to be your best team. As this is a 'team game' MON needs to ditch the last couple fo years idea and now lay his 'best team'. |
Andy
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... I meant play, not 'lay' them in the right positions....Don't be getting too excited Chris |
whitey09
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... andy- ive always liked ash,he's never said anything out of term,always got he's head down wanting to do well,even when he not playin well he still gets on with it no sulking,there were plenty of times i had to bite my tongue on here last season.i watched the season review the other day and it bought home just how important he is for us. |
Chiefy
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... whitey -- cast your mind back, when everyone was banging on about signings tuncay on his inflated salary and then stoke got him and everyone said where is the ambition blah blah blah, now look at him looking for a new club after 13 appearances for STOKE !!! even the strikers pullis had slated and had fights with got picked before him |
whitey09
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... i aint seen the news so couldnt comment soz,yeah but whats your point,just cos he didnt get on well there dosent mean he wouldnt fit in anywhere else does it? or doesnt it? |
Villa_Chris
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... Thanks for all the gay snipes fellas...least its cheered things up in here a bit! |
Chiefy
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... Whitey -- dont start on me you big GAY bear, I was only saying that was all, dont get on your "we can all have opinions" soap box with me, young man !! |
whitey09
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... chiefy- i wernt mate i was just trying to see what you were saying before i made comment,otherwise i might of ended up with people raping me all because of a missunderstanding |
Chiefy
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... latest odds: James Milner to Man City 1/4 Mario Bolotteli to Man City 1/20 David Luiz to Man City 4/11 Craig Bellamy to Tottenham 1/6 Ashley Cole to Real Madrid 1/7 Robbie Keane to Aston Villa 1/2 Javier Mascherano to Inter Milan 1/3 |
Chiefy
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... whitey -- I was just saying that's all, supposed big player with lots to offer cant get infront of beattie an fuller is it ? |
Chiefy
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...for some strange reason he reminds me of benny carbone dont know why now you come to mention it |
ak_27
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... Chiefy i think Tuncay would do a great job for us linking up the play. I think he just doesn't suit Stokes long ball game but i can't think of any other gettable player better then Tuncay that would do this for us. Keane really isn't a link up striker at all. He plays more on the shoulder of his strike partner. |
Celtic Fan
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...Celtic Fan What are you talking about? Bang average sides have done it but Villa have down the square root of F**k All in 30 years. So what gives you the right to dismiss Scottish Football? |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Whitey yes its great we are the 4th most successfull club in england, But we have wone nothing this century, Domestic League titles * First Division Champions 7:[A] o 1893–94, 1895–96, 1896–97, 1898–99, 1899–1900, 1909–10, 1980–81 * Second Division Champions 2:[A] o 1937–38, 1959–60 * Third Division Champions 1:[A] o 1971–72 Cups * FA Cup Winners 7: o 1887, 1895, 1897, 1905, 1913, 1920, 1957 * League Cup Winners 5: o 1961, 1975, 1977, 1994, 1996 * Charity Shield Winners 1: o 1981 (shared) Now since 1920 it doesnt look like we have had much success. So if ye are happy with an fa cup a european cup and league every 90 years, thats fine suit yourself. Andy and a few others, its nice to see you lads trying to say i accept medicority for the club, because i dont, you have to be ambitous no doubt, but please try to be realistic, and not to confuse my realistic ambition with your pipe dreams. And andy i dont need your respect mate, so you can go bumbust your boyfriend simeon |
Chiefy
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...http://www.clicklancashire.com...e-cut.html Disagree, it becomes evident that the signing on fee's are not the issue that it is more to do with the wage bill and getting high earners of it to make room for others. Hokey Cokey out Witsel in ?. I am not sure that the funds are what is holding us back I think it is more to do with Randy not wanting to get stuck with high earners on the wage bill sitting around bleeding the club dry. That is my impression anyhow |
ak_27
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...And andy i dont need your respect mate, so you can go bumbust your boyfriend simeon And here i was beginning to think lately that this blog had lost its edge of late. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... ps because the manager and club has to operate in the real world, and not in your fantasys, so when you get lost in your hope and dreams, you see the clubs and managers work as failures because they are working in the real world, on real budgets and trying to attract better players to improve us year on year to fine club, but one unforunately which is considered a footballing backwater by most of those outside our dear beloved aston villa bubble. We can all aim as high as the sky but in reality when we dont hit those heights you are basing your dissappoints on dreams failed rather than seeing the slow and methodical steady pace of preogression. Its only been 4 years, if we had man citys money yes maybe, but we dont, so it has to been done in a cool calculated way, and i dont think there are too many managers out there who we could attract to come here, dig in and fight for the long haul. |
Andy
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... Greg...You are obviously a very insecure fella and not confident with yourself. If you need to tell me to go away and bum someone then you clearly are immature. If it was not for you saying you had been a supporter for some time I'd swear you had just finished school year 11 for the summer..?! |
Leroy
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... Within all of the comments that have been shot from the hip today, i think many are forgetting the original point: "You do not play £10mn for any player from Scotland. It is like finding a player from the Championship and paying £10mn - it just doesn't happen and for good reasons" I think this is a pretty silly thing to say really. As someone else my have mentioned, we have been linked with Belgian and Croatian players and i doubt that anyone would be upset to see Boussoffa and or Defour come in (and they are valued at 10-15mil each). I think the view is skewed a bit because we see a bit more of the Scottish league and dont have that same exposure to Belgian league football and the like. I would say that when we purchased Ashley Young he was playing for Watford, who were at the standard of Campionship and shortly after they were relegated.....what does it matter what team or league they are from?? What about Theo Walcott? If they can do a job or have potential to do so, then it doesnt matter.... |
Timmyrara
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... Greg mate give up! Even if we win the league and all three cups this year by winning every game 6-0 there are some on here that will still not be happy. |
ak_27
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... Chiefy i think taking 1m for NRC after paying 7.5m is shocking. He is better then £1m and we do not have too many left to fill in for him in the squad. Fine if we have replacements coming in but we will be down NRC, Sidwell and probably Milner in the CM positions leaving us with only Petrov (whose legs are leaving him) and a very promising but long term injured Delph (who may not recover from his inj for a long time). Am i forgetting any other CM in the club? So thats 3 CM's MON would have to bring in just to keep the same squad size. That would take him going at his normal rate probably about 6 transfer windows to sort out. Saying that if he brings in Parker, Ireland and Bullard i would be delighted (even though 2 of the above are very inj prone). But the taking of such a loss on NRC as a result of MON falling out with the guy is just not right in my books for the club. |
Chiefy
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... Ak_27 -- would you take Ireland, Witsel and one of Seengsong or Boussaffa ?? Me personally I thing we will be down by numbers by 1 in CM but i think we will get Ireland and Witsel and I will be happy with that infact I would be happy with 2 of the ones I have mentioned to be honest. |
ak_27
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...Ireland, Witsel and one of Seengsong or Boussaffa I would but i can only see MON going for one playmaker out of Ireland, Seengsong and Boussaffa. Anyone know when Delph is expected back? |
Greg Davillain1887
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... well andy if was you who first sneered me and when i saw u jump to the defense of your bumchum simeon, it was easy even for a juvenile illiterat bastard like me to see that there was major anal action going on between ye, i can nearly see your boner from here. ya timmyrar MATE i think your right PAL |
Andy
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... Timmyrara...Take a little longer than you did to actually write that comment and do you actually really believe what you have just written. If you actually do believe that, then it just shows the extent of such blinkered views. Why can't both sides of the debates on here just have the banter and debate, without the likes of yourself, Greg and others, calling those that ask questions of how things are done..noses, morons, heretics, non villa supporters, should go support Man City etc etc. As I've said before, we are no less a supporter than you are. We could arguably be a better supporter. I go to the games (2 season tickets), buy the shirts for my son, vice chairman of an official lions club etc etc....So when you say the likes of myself don't support, first put your brains nto gear and think that other people in this world actually have other thoughts and dare to speak out and have other thoughts. |
Chiefy
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... Sidwell has to take a 50% pay cut the greedy little s**t to move Mohammed Fellah – Valeranga - the man in Norway by all accounts been suggested by Big John apparently Witsel -- he is the man if Milner sort his life out and makes a decision on what he wants to do, play football earn money, cut oranges earn more money just choose for christs sake |
ak_27
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...Xmas I think So thats half the season without him. Am i alone in thinking Jimmy Bullard could do a good job as a sqaud player at the very least on loan? I think injurys aside he is a nice tidy CM player. |
woody
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... 10 F#####G MILLION!! please no! celtic are crap and have a squad full of ex championship players,mr average mcgeady will look good against them dear o dear another waste of cash!!! again please buy buy some premiership quality!!! |
Andy
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... Actually Greg I'm the 'taker' and Simeon is the 'giver', so it's Simeon that gets the boners. |
whitey09
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... greg- thats my point my freind,weve waited long enuf for success and not just under the current regime and i think its about time that we stood up and grasp what chance we have whilst we still have it.its not pipe dreams my freind its a realistic offering for us to go to the next stage but for some reason we dont take it,you say we shouldnt expect so much,well you listed all the things weve won in our history so why on earth are we not allowed to expect the same thing now!! do you think that in 1889 when we won the league that we would expect nothing less than to win it again,of course we expected it cos weve managed to do it so why not now,we have won the league even the most glorious of club football prizes so why shouldnt we expect it again?????? like i say its not just been the last for years weve waited its been nearly 30 yrs since weve contributed to the english elite,there is only so much time a great,huge, big club can go without winning before people start finding other ways of spending there matchdays. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... ok guys im calling a truce for anyone wants to listen, let the debate continue. Id be happy be Ireland, think he has the ability already and has the potential to be even better. Id take witsel, to be honest i knew of him for the last 2 years but only through champ manager so never had a real view on him, saw him literally tear a guys leg off oin a match before so he defo has plenty of fight!! Id take mcgready and take an educated risk on him, he can beat players for fun, needs to improve his all round game, ok damian, he may not be able to win young player next year but he is 24 and milner was 24 when he won it this year, unless i am grossly mistaken, so dont talk down to me over trivial innocent mistakes please. Keane will be brought in soon hopefully another option, all these players will give us a plan b, alot of which some think we dont have, well we are looking for a plan b and hopefully if we sign these players we will have a different dynamic to the team. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Andy whitey, i totally get what your saying and i agree, my thinking is that is we can just ease the pressure of years of frustantion off the manager and players, and let them play with a bit of freedom, it will happen, we are so close. I think its the added pressure of over expectation which is holding us back. Look at villa park and the amount of draws we get, the players are terrified of ye as fans, they dont perform at home as well as on the road. If people could give them a break and support them like the scouses support the pool, get behind them when we go 1-0 down, dont groan at the fiirst and every mistake, give them the freedom to play rather than the fear not to fail. Its whats holding us back and i think the home record is an indication of it |
nath888
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... Eduardos off the list then: "http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6271452,00.html" |
Andy
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... Greg..I'm going to sound like I just disagree with you by default here, but on the point about the home form I have to disargree. We drew at home more because of the system we were playing, not because we did not shout and sing as much as you think we should. In fact having attended some away games too, I'd say Villa show decent support at home compared to others. I do agree however Pool give better home support, but that's only one example. I think if you care to look at the stats, we play poorly when we go ahead by one goal and that results in draws. Villa seem to play better and turn things around more when we are behind. I'm not inclined to check the stats on that, but it does seem to happen a lot. Anyway I do feel the support is invairiably good, compared to some of the football we've had to watch down Villa Park last season, which on many occasions was horrible to watch, because it was so negative for long periods. I see no proof to show that it is the support of those that expect good things from the club holding the team back. I'm just building a house Greg with my hard earned money. I got to thinking that some of these players could pay for it building on a months wages alone....Put's it into perspective doesn't it...! If they can earn that much money, they can put up with a little moaning when they don't perform as much as they love the applauding when they do perform. |
ak_27
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... Andy you beat me too it. Greg its not the crowd who are the fault of our home record its the fact that MON is just so damn predictable with regards to almost everything. Everyone knows his starting 11, his tactics and his when and what subs he will bring on irregardless of who we are playing or how the game is going. Tactically MON is getting found out at home big time when teams do not push out to leave space in behind for us to counter attack into and also if you have your defense ready for an airial bombardment(which is easliy done if you just keep your shape) then chances are you will leave Villa park with something to show for yourselves. Thats not down to the crowd but to one man. Its also why the crowd get on his back. |
Villa Kid
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... I wish MON would look at other clubs instead of Celtic, why has he got this thing with raiding them. Is he gonna buy everyone from there and have a Celtic team under the Villa name!?!?! Come on use them scouts all over the world or bloody get rid of them because they are costing the club for nothing. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... i take your points, i knew ye would throw back our set up is to win on the road and cant break teams at home argument, maybe ye are right, maybe were just not stong enough to go out and win games at home with a bit of panache, and are stronger on the road because we are sound defensively and can nick goals from set pieces and break aways. I too admit ive often thought about why we can seem to keep a lead, and in my own humble opinion there is not just one answer but a culmination of things. As a villa fan we all want one common goal to win matchs and win silverware, right? Right. They only thing as a fan we can do at matches is to support the team and roar them onto success. Look at munster in the rugby, great home support great home record, same for liverpool most years. The fans one job is to support, drive on the team, offer a wall off noise to protect your team and give them extra drive and motivation. Ye are right the game has changes, not we have ego centric millionaire players who half of cant be bothered about fans, well our job just got harder, for us to bring success we have to support over pampered players who have now become extremely sensitve and sheltered when it come to critizism, these guys need to be loved, how many times have we seen some w**kstain leaving a club becasue he didnt feel 'loved' its your right to moan yes, but it derails our common goal, wanting to win matchs and silverware, if we are not up to the job as fans, to cheer and support these overpaid millionaires we to have to question our love and commitment to the club, and our common goal. Its not easy, but you have to fight for what you want in the right ways |
Geoff
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... Wow you guys are wound up today! Bringing up the 1966 World Cup and all that. Aiden McGeady is worth what the Russians bid for him - 8M. Celtic turned it down because they know some desperate team (us), will offer more. He is a good player though, and he will do just fine. Unfortunately it has been reported that Fulham will rival us for Keane, MON has waited FAR too long in that one particular instance and it has allowed competition to drive our price up. Keane should have been signed and unveiled weeks ago - its such a no-brainer, easy move that its totally unacceptable to drag this on and claim it has anything to do with selling Milner. You mean you can't scrape together 6M pounds or even send a player in return? come on, this is ridiculous. It makes me question whether or not they really want Keane. |
Andy
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... The problem is these players are actually paid by us. That is a fact. 100% of their wages comes from revenue which has come in from fans/supporters. Football players are Not 'The Club'. They are employees of 'The Club'. It's about time the balance changed back to supporting clubs, instead of putting these players on pedestals. That is why I question and will sometimes moan at individual plays for their lack of performace. If we are all honest, we have all moaned at performances or players, whatever viewpoint about Aston Villa we hold. |
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... 10 mill? no way, as someone who would have an eye on the spl Mc Geady is not a bad player but he is the type of player who thinks he's better than what he really is.He shows flashes of skill but has a poor end product.I'd say he's prob worth more like 5-6 but not ten. |
Gordon
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... Hey, you need to know what you talking about and assuming what your club paid for players is ridiculous. Petrov had no experience before celtic, the same as mcgeady and is now your club captain. Martin O'neil has totally changed the the perspective of your club and i would'nt question him ,i think he knows a bit more about mcgeady than your and petrov cost villa over 6.5m before add ons roughly 8 million after add ons over 2 years. Think about Milner the most one footed player i have ever seen and 25 million wow over priced and your moaning about 10 million |
bobvillian
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... no one can convince me mcreadey is better than albrighten.10mill what a total disgrace if MON SIGNS HIM .he has already wasted 40mill on players now this possibity.i would rather have bentley;at leased he is a good crosser of ball.when we end up buying players from celtic then you know the manager has no got a clue whats he doing? |
b30 villain
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... should get rid of Emule like that. Tow him up in the air and cut the f**kin rope |
Chater1703
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...should get rid of Emule like that. Tow him up in the air and cut the f**kin rope Qual |
bobvillian
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... the daily record has a 60% strike rate with correct transfer signing with villa.they predicted mcreadey will sign next week.lets all hope this time they are wrong? |
whitey09
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... greg - your sound mate,enjoy conversation and remember thats what makes football and in particular aston villa the thing we all love and hate at times, utv sotc |
Villa_Chris
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...should get rid of Emule like that. Tow him up in the air and cut the f**kin rope |
The Maestro
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... God help us if you actually sign McGeady if being linked with him provokes this much argument  As a Celtic season ticket holder, I'd say McGeady is worth about 8m. His value would double if he added an end product as many people on here have said, but do me a favour and change the record about the quality of the SPL. We know it's not the best for quality, but it's a more difficult than most give it credit for. There are no duds that win the SPL POTY awards. Oh, and if you don't want MON, then we'll have him back. The man's a legend that appears to be at a club that don't appreciate him. |
PrairieBhoy
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... Craig Gordon went to Sunderland for 9 million. Just stating that a team will not pay 10 is ill informed. Spartak offered 8 mil. If O'Neil wants him it will take at least 8 mil. A player is worth what a team will pay. Two years ago, Celtic had offers of 9 mil for Boruc. They didn't sell him. Now they sold him for 2 mil. Celtic won't make the same mistake with McGeady. You have a player who wants to play in the EPL. There is a coach that he knows (St Martin) and a player he knows (Petrov). As soon as Milner is sold McGeady will be sold to Villa unless someone comes in with a higher offer |
john doyle
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... Greg the villan are you realy a villa fan the b****x you talk about us being a small club where you at rotterdam how many english clubs have won the europen cup when i last counted there where liverpool man u notts forest and villa have i missed any. where the f**k are man city or chelskie or wengers lot or spuds the standard is there to aim at think big and you will be big think small like you we will never win f**k all. yes we at villa park expect the best as some of us have seen it and that what we want so f**king wake up i do not support a small club we are in the top tier in england and are known throughout europe . on a good point went last night lijal was good play him he can pass the ball and tackel has pace like all our young kids give them games we dont need that jock winger when we have allbrighton he will be twice the player of that jock prat if he is played dont care if we sign no one. play the kids NCR looked sharp last night if mon would get off his high horse and play him if he cant sell him would love to see the fonz up front with gabby and big john we must f**k off the mule he is just taking up the space on the bench |
john doyle
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... ak 27 dead right about the home form we must play diffrent at home to away but mon is devoid of any other way of playing he is the complete one trick pony when it comes to our style of play we all know that |
TheDiamond
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... If Villa fans want an idea of the standard of football in Scotland, and the kind of players that makes McGeedy look good then look no further. Lee hendrie is about to sign for Aberdeen. |
TheDiamond
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... According to Soccernet. Jol will indeed go to Fulham which is bad news in our hunt for a striker. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/n...nd&cc=5739 |
Greg Davillain1887
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... hi john doyle nice to meet you pal ya i guess your right fella, one european cup in 82, a great achievment in its day and great to have on the villa roll of honour, malmo of sweden have a european cup too, now there we are talking about a european superpower, i hear wayne rooney is set to sign for them, and they had offered joe cole 85k per week but were just pipped by liverpool. Ya you are right lets live off our one big success in our 116 year history. Man city have won f**k all in their history, but they will probably win a lot more than we do over the next few years as long as they keep the shieks interested. I wonder why we didnt sign adebayor, tevez, toure, given, etc??? because we cant compete with the money boss, why did city sign them players?? because they are loaded?? if city had our money would they have any of those players?? of course not, so wy do you slate me for saying to people get real in our expectations, look at what we as a club can provide today and hope to get teh best out of that. We have a manager who will get the best out of what we can do. Dont mistake me for having no ambition, just being real, and if a lot of people were real oh here they wouldnt be so frustrated and would appreciate what the club is trying to do. The fact you think having a european cup makes us a big club is laughable and jsut means you are living 27 years in the past. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... Liverpool are just about to sign dany wilson- from glasgow rangers, that roy hodgson is a crap manager whats he doing all players are crap north of the border........ |
frosty
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... Celtic have already turned down an 8m bid so I'd think 10m is more than a possibility, if it does go through I'm sure it will be joy joy times on here. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... frosty im sure there will be 'joy joy' alright rememeber the joy joy when we signed collins, i was in the 'joyful camp' think it was somelike 'what the f**k that baldy ginger useless bastard' boy did he prove me wrong, i think mcgeady will prove people wrong whoever he goes to, he is after getting stronger and more mature, i think the boy is ready, id love to see him have more backing, but there you cant have it every way |
Tonebone
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... well 24 days now to go until the first game!!! still no fk;ign signings!! its getting to the stage where even if oneil brings someone in they wont be bedded in for the start of the season. In fact i would say any new signing with MON as amanger certainly wont be starting now till at least september!! This clown has to go!!! Same mistakes every season both in season and off season!!! |
frosty
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...I wonder why we didnt sign adebayor, tevez, toure, given Yeah, I bet MON was on holiday or slacking it off somewhere when he could of purchased these guys with the special beans he's been growning, he's so s**t we need Roy Hodgeson I'd prefer Dany Wilson to McGeady anyday. Martin retire please, I'm missing mid table mediocrity |
Greg Davillain1887
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...he could of purchased these guys with the special beans he's been growning ahhhhhhhhhhahahah theres a few special beans around all right |
Tonebone
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... To be honest i dotn see how anyone would want to play under Oneil. If you dont come as a starter then you will NEVER play, and if you do then he'll just burn them out so they are crocked by March . |
Greg Davillain1887
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... I start to see the type of player oneill signs, either a young british international, or a player with a proven reputation but with something to prove, ie dunne, carew,, i think keane would fit into that category, and so would mcgeady and ireland, but i guess people are just dying for a big signing that will make them cum in there pants! i can understand it, but i trust oneills ways too |
frosty
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...To be honest i dotn see how anyone would want to play under Oneil. If you dont come as a starter then you will NEVER play, and if you do then he'll just burn them out so they are crocked by March . If I were 24 with bags of potential I'd look at Young, Milner, even Barry and aspire to reaching that level, something none of them would of found possible without MON, I'd even go as far as to say Barry & Milner wouldn't of made the world cup if they hadn't worked with MON. |
proxopera
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... Damian , Henrik larsson played in the spl for years and was prolific , he destroyed blackburn and liverpool in the uefa cup one season and was eventually bought by barcelona when he was pretty much finished. I would'nt completely diss the spl as you have done but from watching mcgeady for Ireland he would add nothing to Villa and the celtic fans who say he's worth 10 million are of the same variety as villa fans who say Milners worth 30 million. Liam lawrence keeps mcgeady out of the ireland team because he's a better all round player, keeps the ball and plays with his head up and I'd take lawrence before mcgeady anyday of the week for villa. I have a feeling that MON has a taste for the dramatic so i reckon he's letting all this build up so he can pull a stroke . He's letting all the fickle fans know that he's the guvnor and he'll move when he's good and ready ,,,,,well , at least i hope he is! |
TheDiamond
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... There's any number of reasons why Celtic turned down that bid but I'm certain at the top of the list would be the fact that McGeedy wouldn't agree to play in Russia if you put a gun to his head. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... http://eurorivals.net/club-rankings.html Look im not trying to annoy anyone by saying we are a small club, i dint mean that, what i meant is that outside of the midlands we are forgotten, we are getting back on the mpa, look at where we are and the clubs around us, you see how hard it is to draw in the best players, we have to be shrewd, final a rough jewel and polish em, and to date oneill is doing that for s, i think mcgeady can thrive at villa park |
Villa since 1958
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... I just thought I'd try to write a post in the style of Greg DaVillain 1887 (He can't spell villan and I don't agree with a word he writes) just to see if I can. So : F**k you, small f*******g club, get behind the f*****g team you f******g c***s. You f*****g morons, I'm f*****g right and you're f*****g wrong. If you don't f*******g like MON the f**k off and support f*****g citeh you f*****g bluenose. Oh yes and f*****g bumbust your f*****g bumchum f*****g Simeon. So how did I do? Did it sound realistic? For the musical amongst you, if you replace the asterisks with the standard bleep used for swearing, then this post plays the Star Spangled Banner for our American friends. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... villa since 1958 I would think an old coffin dodger like you would have better things to do rather than writing musicals to the theme of Star Spangled Banner, now go have a cup of tea you old geriatric, hows that for a musical? |
Greg Davillain1887
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... yes he can spell villain you old frean, let me demonstrate: A villain (also known in film and literature as the "bad guy", "black hat", or "heavy") is an "evil" character in a story, whether a historical narrative or, especially, a work of fiction. The villain usually is the antagonist, the character who tends to have a negative effect on other characters. A female villain is sometimes called a villainess (often to differentiate her from a male villain). Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines villain as "a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel; or a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constitutes an important evil agency in the plot".[1] |
Villa since 1958
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... Greg, In the context of Aston Villa, we supporters are known as "Villans" not "Villains", although from what you've been posting today, "Villain" is probably more accurate. As to the "Coffin Dodger" lovin' it - I've just bought a new motorbike, so the chances of me living long enough to see Villa win something are now slim to none. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... wear your helmet and look out for big red buses and you might see mcGeady score a hat-trick on his debut for the Villans!!!! What bike did you buy? a honda 50 with a basket up front or something decent like an r1 or a jixer 1100!!! |
Hennessy
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... I gotta say that I agree with Greg's comments wholeheartedly. Ever since City's cash injection and the Spuds champions league push under Arry, we are now battling it out with Everton and the Premier Leagues lesser team's for players, and realisticly should be scrapping it out for 7th spot with Everton this season. I have no worries tho. Have complete faith in Mon who has punched and succeeded above his weight in every season with us. We have to be realistic, get behind the team & Mon, Look at what resourses we have in comparision to City, Spuds & the Pool and how we have fair'ed under Mon. Only when the fans, directors, players and managment are singing from the same sheet will we get the success we so covet. Over the last two seasons It's been us(the Fans)who were way off key. |
Villa since 1958
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... I bought a BMW R1200GS so I can pretend to be Ewan McGregor for a while. I'm looking forward to Villa actually signing someone, so we can rip each other to shreds over a fact not a rumour. I'd love to join on the McGeady chat, but I've never seen him, so. . . Anyway, I won't be happy until we've signed Iniesta, Xavi, Drogba, Rooney, Ronaldo, Joe Cole, Ashley Cole, Fibreglass, Buffon, Mueller. . . well, you get the idea. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... well said hennessy fair duece, nice bike a bit like a honda goldwing is it, like a cruiser?? cool well wear, and here for your benefit is a link i put up before but you have probably never heard of youtube so have a look and see the best bits of mcgeady!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-nGDRIduE |
FatKevs
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... all this slagging of the Celtic & Rangers do we honestly think they would not teach us as lesson at villa Park like most other clubs did last season with mons boring football |
Gardner
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...I gotta say that I agree with Greg's comments wholeheartedly. Ever since City's cash injection and the Spuds champions league push under Arry, we are now battling it out with Everton and the Premier Leagues lesser team's for players, and realisticly should be scrapping it out for 7th spot with Everton this season. Bravo *applauds* One of the better comments I've read on here recently. |
The Droyd
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... I don't know where to begin responding to the incredible b******s being discussed here today. And this is without any contributions that I can see from frem. With the s**t we have been linked to this summer, I would be happy if there are no comings or goings this summer. |
willie divers
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... as a teenager playing against ac milan, after a couple of runs down the wing he was then faced with three defenders trying to stop him, that was also the case against barcelona.In the spl he has to take on all the defence every week.He might not be the finished article{in some peoples eyes} but if he goes to villa he will get their fans off their seats with his ball control and tricks with pace.He is one young man I would gladly pay to watch. |
TheDiamond
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... willie divers have you seen McGeedy play for Ireland? Against worse defenders than in the English premier league? He has been made to look decidedly average time and time again. |
Greg Davillain1887
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... the diamond did you see england in the world cup, against defenders worse than in the premier league?? ireland beat algeria 3-0 in their final world cup warm up and beat paraguay, and we were hard done by to get eliminated the way we did. wille divers, i sis and i remember messi in the post match interview and he said mcgeady was phenomonal, and so did maldini gave him praise in the post match interview, the lad has talent, its time he stepped out onto the big stage to show the world what hes made of |
TheDiamond
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... McGeedy didn't play in either of the games you mentioned for Ireland and friendlies aren't relevant anyway because the players preparing for the world Cup just want to get through the match without injury. There were loads of pre-world cup results like this. During qualifications however McGeedy spent most of his time on the bench while to Duff, Lawrence and Hunt (premiership players) were preferred because they are better all round contributors to the team. Mcgeedy is a selfish player with no end product. He overly reliant on his right foot, can't cross and he keeps running down cul de sacs, eventually giving away possession. He's now 24 and is no different from the player he was at 20. You think MON is going to teach him how to deliver a final ball?Get real. He's nothing special. |
TheDiamond
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... Interesting rumour here about Warnock. http://astonvilla-views.com/20...pool-move/ |
john doyle
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... greg davillan why are you so mon eyed do you go to the home games and watch us last year we could not break into a kids piggy bank mon is a one trick pony if we cant hit teams on the break we cant win full stop he is the worst manager in any div for his use of subs FACT and as for us not getting any players why do we get the best young kids come to villa now then good players wont come besause of the kick and rush and most players know if you look at mon the wrong way you dont play for 2 years or if you like mon you play 60 games weather you are injured or f**ked dont matter as for the jock winger as i have said before allbrighton is better he would look great in jock land or the 3div as thats the standard petrov took 2 seasons to get up to speed now he cant keep up after 50 mins |
proxopera
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... I dont often agree with the diamond but he's got McGeady bang on in comment 231. I was wrong about Dunnes value last year but I'm actually mildly depressed at the thought of Mggeadys signing |
Hennessy
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... Dont think thats a fair comment from Diamond about Mcgeady's performances for Ireland. Ireland actually had one of the more difficult qualifying groups and I think you'll find Italian, Bulgarian and Montenegro Defenders playing in the best leagues in Europe. I dont think he played too bad anyway. Pretty much did what the Trap asked of him Sign him up Mart, 10 million sounds fair in todays prices, or 14 mill if they take Heskey The Late Theirry Henry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxprvrFQpiE&feature=player_embedded |
frosty
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...TheDiamond There are no quotes and no official sources. Liverpool don't have a left back and Warnock was once theirs.. s**t journalism. |
fastbackace
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... seems that a lot of people on here are worried that mon hasnt signed anyone... are u surprised really??? mon always waits... last summer i do believe that mon signed all dunne, warnock, and collins with less than 3 weeks in the transfer market. were those good signings... yes i think they were. so lets just cool down and see what he decides to pick up this summer. |
frosty
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... fastbackace - completely agree. What makes me laugh is all of this "wasted money" MON has spent. How many big money players (lets say over £7m although even that is moderately cheap these days) have turned out to be bad buys? Reo Coker is the only 1, Downing the jury is still out. |
mickey86
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... alot of interest in this post today, took me a while to get thru it. 1. we wasnt saying celtic and rangers are crap, we were saying that the spl is and even the biggest supporters of the spl must admit that. 2. charlie adam was good last season, peter whittingham and darren ambrose were both better (2 premiership rejects) 3. aiden mcgeady is unproven in the premiership so no-one can judge - i just dnt want him becasue weve got downing and young for the wings and banan and albrighton for backup - and for the same price, id prefer bentley who is better. 4. that reo-coker for 1million article is rubbish, he left west ham on bad terms and in that article it says west ham were interested. if it was true - selling him for £1million is like selling him for £4million because we will save £3million in wages. 5. that uefa club rankings, how did blackburn manage to finish above villa?!! and how were the points worked out? |
Greg Davillain1887
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... mickey, i dont know how the ranking are calculated, i was trying to figure that one out myself, Its hard to say if bently is better than mcgeady, as mcgeady is unproven thus far in the premier league, where bentley has had maybe 4 or 5 years in the premier league and had one very good season at blackburn, after that he has done nothing, at least mcgeady looks exciting and has potential where with bently you no your getting a fancy dan who play well onnce every 6 r 7 games if he not busy getting boozed up crashinf expensive cars into lampposts, if he cant even get around a lampost how will he ever get around a decent full back. |
proxopera
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...I dont think he played too bad anyway. Henessey , the above comment kinda sums up McGeady . I'm irish and I like the organisation of the team under trapp , but lets be honest there are no real world class players on the team apart from maybe Given and McShane so Mcgeady should really be standing out at this stage of his career, but he's not ! Villa just need something extra if they want to compete at the top and he is nowhere near good enough. |
MoodyVilla
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... Ashley Young was not worth £10m when we signed him. James Milner was not worth £12m when we signed him. Petrov was not worth £7m when we signed him. Dunne was a risk. Collins was a risk. Get real kids. The manager knows what he is doing when he signs players for over £10m. I actually think McGeady is a player who could improve and progress with Villa. He has talent, bottle, a good delivery and is young. Surely the sort of player we should be looking at. He has International experience, European experience and has played with Keane many many times for his country and briefly for his club and Keane now looks nailed on to come to VP. I think it makes sense, I'm behind the manage and the club, we may not be striding forward but we are moving in the right direction gradually and in this crazy modern game we should be thankful we are in the mix. If Young or Downing are struggling or injured, chuck Mcgeady on and imagine your reacions if he popped up with an assist to the winner. We need more goals in the side and McGeady is a creator and Keane is link player and we already have Carew and Gabby who can finish. If we need physicality we have Heskey and if we can keep Milner and add a couple we are going to be a dangerous side next year. If the defence perform and we can add 15 goals last seasons tally we'll be contenders for CL and maybe a cup. |
proxopera
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...I actually think McGeady is a player who could improve and progress with Villa. He has talent, bottle, a good delivery and is young. ??????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!! and Gabby who can finish. ???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! McGeady is a creator ??????????????.......... Say no to drugs mate. |
blake0121
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...for those who dont know, greg ect aston villa football club are the forth highest trophy winners in the history of the english game hence the "proud history,bright future" we keep banging on about, so those people who say weve never had it so gud then please check the achievements of this great club before stating that fact! we have every right,everybody does to want the very best for our club but how we go about gaining that differs from fan to fan, so just because we differ does that make us any less of a fan. yes whitey09 I think certain people needed to be reminded of what we have achieved already. I hate when people slate AVFC, look at Arsenal never won champions league in their history SNM I wouldn't mind us signing McGeady but not for £10m though(£5-7m IMO) we shouldn't be looking at wingers yet until we filled the, RB position(M Richards), a striker(Falcao) and a play maker(S Ireland) IMO A Young scored a great goal in the pre season match, I can see him having a great season this year if MON keeps swapping him from the wing to a SS role and hopefully a few of the youth players get a run in this season |
blake0121
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... (OFF TOPIC) How did Hodgeson beat Redknapp to signing Joe Cole, I have to take my hat off to him, Liverpool have to qualify for Europa while Spurs have to qualify for Champions League big difference. |
mickey86
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... greg, yea didnt mean to say was actually better - i meant in my opinion will be a better player for us - but would still prefer neither and buy a central midfielder, a right back, and a striker. ideally with the right back position id keep luke young and play lichaj a few times but luke young will probably leave and lichaj wont be our first choice. |
just a fan
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... as tranfers go now adays 10m would be a very good deal for villa mcgeady is a very exciting talent |
AussieLion
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... The striker problem is starting too get bad. According to a number of sources Eduardo has agreed to a deal with Shaktar. Huntelaar has apparently landed in Manchester. So out of all the forwards we have been linked with (Eduardo, Huntelaar and Keane) two could already be gone, even though it is the area that is most important to improve. |
Villa_Chris
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...64.3% - Of players to have attempted at least 30 shots in the 2009/10 PL season, Gabriel Agbonlahor managed the best shooting accuracy. Aim Interesting...imagine if he had better supply from the midfield instead of cross after cross? |
GGGG
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... A list of the summer transfer activity in the Prem so far: http://www.guardian.co.uk/foot...indow-2010 Guess who's the only club not to have bought anyone! |
JimVilla
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... Aussie Lion - Why is it starting to get bad? Because Huntelaar is likely to sign for Man Utd today (never an option for Villa either way) or that Eduardo has gone to Shaktar with not one bid from any premier league team (or major European side for that matter). Ask any gooner and they will tell you that Eduardo just hasn't recovered and is half the player he was before he smashed his leg. Lets not start another day of moaning about lack of activity. We obviously want to complete Sidwell to Fulham (when they get a manager) and Milner is the next issue. We also have Delfuenso and Weimann coming through and Young about to sign a new contract in a possible role off the strikers. If MON keeps hold of Young that will be an achievement in itself. I want to know what milner plans to do but other than that I am optimistic about the squad and season ahead. We're a good cup side and have three to go for. The way I see it we really need specialist full backs if anything, a central attacking mid to fill Milners boots if he is off, and yes, a striker to upgrade one of the older players (Heskey namely) would be handy, but not at the expense of Delfuenso in my opinion. I want him to have every opportunity to devlelop and establish himself this year. I like the defense outside of that....Clark is going to be a big player for us. Licaj looks the part as well. We've got Bannan and Albrighton, Harry Forrester is going to be quality, Weimann, and enough talent in the Acedemy to see a few others go all the way. The talent pool at Villa is growing all the time and with our facilities improving all the time, we shoul all have high hopes with the Villa youth and support them and the manager when they get their time. |
AussieVillan
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... Spurs are trying to loan out pavlyachenko for the season ! No fee ! Wouldn't have too high wages either ! And god I feel sorry for Sunderland fans when there 2 CB for next season might be sol Campbell and Titus bramble ! Whoah that would suck ! And mcgeady for 7.5 maybe for 10 no way ! |
JimVilla
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... Just looked at the Villa Squad page and Nathan Baker has disappeared. He's with the Under 19's and a Villa player as far as I know? |
Alan fron Aussie
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... I did'nt realise we were now the only club that have not bought anyone, I just wonder what message it sends to Milner, Young etc. I have problems putting what I feel into words, as all we seem to hear day in and day out that we are INTERESTED in someone, surely it must be getting close now to at least make a move for that SOMEONE ??, I've been asking you for when the transfer market ends but as yet not been told, so maybe I'm being to eager for something to happen ??? UTV |
deero83
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... I know some have whinged about the new FxPro sponsorship deal, and the new shirts, but at least ours don't look quite as odd as Fulham's new home shirt - how high up is that sponsor logo!!!! http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/N...veal.aspx |
AussieVillan
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... The transfer window usually closes august 31st I think so there's a few games to play before it shuts so we could start the season with exactly the same side that finished it last year ! |
Christian1983
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... JimVilla, I love an optimist, but if you honestly think that Weimann, Clark, Forrester, Bannan, Albrighton and Lichaj will go all the waythen you're a bit too optimistic! If they were genuinely good enough or were real SPECIAL talents they'd have made an impact by now. We're not talking about 15-16 year olds- Clarke's 21 next month, Forrester's 20, Lichaj 22, Albrighton 21. I'm sure they'll be decent professionals, but at their respective ages, I just feel they're either not quite special enough to have broken through (they don't really even make the bench!) or MON could not bring himself to play them over the last 2-3 years. |
bobvillian
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... rummors about warnock not a suprise to me if true.MON would fallout with himself in a empty room?? how many more players are there who are scared to talk in case of falling out with the idiot we call our boss?? |
jk92293
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... if anyone is interested in going to Murreys bar on O'Connell St tomorrow: starts at 6pm, wentrance fee is €4 for adult and €2 for kids.... THIS IS YOUR OFFICIAL INVITE! We will have from 6pm: *1 x Ex Villa Player 100% confirmed to attend Bringing with him the FA Cup that we won in 1957! A fantastic photo opportunity! *A 2nd ex Villa Player (TBC) *Acorns – Aston Villa’s official charity partner will be in Murrays *Aston Villa’s very own Grounds man’s Grounds man of the Year and Premier League Grounds man of the Year 2010, Jonathan Calderwood will be on hand to talk to you all things Villa Park! One of the most interesting men you will ever meet! *Plus other Villa staff and more…… We understand that a lot of you will want to use this as a photo opportunity and we want everyone to get a pic! So we will have our very own Irish Lions Photographer there and we will send you a souvenir copy of a photo with you in FREE of Charge!! |
AdamD
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... Fastbackace I agree with you lets not panick we know how MON operates (Or doesn´t In This Case) , and lets face it he did bring in some quality players at the last min last season . My only concern is that while MON sits on the fence all the decent players are taken and we end up with the dregs and the club does not go forward.MON has stabilised the club and is the best we have had for some time but hand on heart I do not think he will take the Villa any further. |
Chiefy
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...I know some have whinged about the new FxPro sponsorship deal, and the new shirts, but at least ours don't look quite as odd as Fulham's new home shirt - how high up is that sponsor logo!!!! Their shirt looks good, nice and modern like Kappa kits, mind you think the average villa fan would be a little on the large side to make them look good ay |
Chiefy
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... Warnock falling out with MON !!! Get real, Warnock was in the England squad because of MON, this is more lazy jurno's making stuff up to suit them and as usual we are the whipping boys they have decided on. More rubbish that they picked up from some blog somewhere from someone who is a "good" source. There are a few major draw backs with this even if it where true: can you see liverpool sanctioning a move of between 7-10million for a player that they let go for 3.5million ??? NO is the answer to that, it is more likely that they will go for Bridge who is going to be pushed out of Citeh in favour of the bloke they have just brought in. how many more players are there who are scared to talk in case of falling out with the idiot we call our boss?? people take the bad as gospel and the good with a pinch of salt, why not try giving the manager the benefit of the doubt for once ?? constantly creating problems with our club to suit your opinion of the manager, what purpose does it serve ?? other than making you all tense and stressed ?? sit down calm down and be logical, THINK ABOUT IT |
Alan fron Aussie
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... just read where spurs might be looking at Raul on a free ??? not sure on his age and just wanted to know your thoughts as to whether he would he be worth a shot, even if only for his experience for the young brigade, also not sure that his wages would be all that high - food for thought maybe ????? |
Chiefy
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... http://community.footballpools...r-gunner/? link sorry offer made according to this |
ak_27
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... He would be a great signing but its more then likely just a load of rubbish. I honestly think Petrovs needs to be upgraded this summer. He has been a great servant but his legs did seem to going last year. Might have something to do with playing so many games. |
VillaDude
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... Yes Petrov passing and intercepting is probably the best at villa, but his shooting is shocking, he struggles to dribble, and fouls quite often due to his lack of pace. But MON will never replace him, he made him our captain! |
nix2
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... We spent all year wondering why MON wouldn't change it, why he wouldn't make a sub, change the formation, do something to spice it up. Anybody watching the Peterborough match could have seen a shining light in Ashley Young sitting behind the front two where he plays fantastically well. And I think we all know MON rates Young over Milner so if Milner stays he could end up back on the wing. MON doesn't buy players on a whim, thats why we pay extortioate prices, we won't just take anyone and try and build the team around them, he finds a player that will settle very quickly and work within the team. Find me a manager who replaced the 3 of the back 4 after the first game of the season and had the defensive record that he got? You'll probably struggle to find that stat, cos it don't exist. If the rumour about the winger are true, then expect to see Ash in the middle, Milner at Man City and Downing on the other wing, he'll be looking for a like for like swap with Young not Milner. You all want a super signing, a creative midfielder that will change the flow of the game. Well guess what, we've got 3 of them they just need utilising, and I believe! I believe its gonna happen very soon. |
Chrisodon
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... I'd be quite happy with Flamini. If he was to replace the sweatiest man on the planet. |
vogra.
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... 5mill for Flamini.....give me a break, like he's going to leave AC Milan to come to us...hahaha |
Andy
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... VillaDude.....As Flamini is considered a 'versatile' midfielder, that can 'also play in defence' I was also thinking the same thing...lol Just read a few words from Eric Lichaj about trying to get into the first team where he says..'I would like to do that initially, but right now at right-back there is Carlos Cuellar, Luke Young and Habib Beye, so it will be difficult getting into the team. But I will still be working hard with everything, so hopefully things work out.' I had to smile when he says this, because I think he forgot to mention the rest of the squad was ahead of him at RB, even Brad could be considered as a possible RB if MON had anything to do with it. |
mickey86
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... im not bothered that villa are the only ones on that list who hvnt bought anyone - as other than silva, toure, joe cole and benayoun - i wouldnt really want any of the other premier league signings at villa. theres no point in buying players just to say we have bought someone. im glad the eduardo rumour never came true, even before his injury he was stil crap. be gutted if we dnt even try to get huntelaar, but i always thought hed go man u or chelsea anyway. flamini would also be an excellent signing. |
mickey86
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... also - how did wolves manage to get £500k for iwelumo - harewood was alot better than him and actually scored in the premiership yet the best we could get was a loan deal for him. its always the same for villa, we always get sod all for our players. |
VillaDude
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... Mickey86 , harewood was on a very good contract at Villa, and his demands priced him out of any move. Why would he leave for less money? I woudlnt be suprised if we didn't pay some of his salary when he was at newcastle etc. Same reason Reo Coker, Shorey, Young, Beye etc have not been sold, they all on salaries other clubs are not as stupid as us to offer... Reported Sidwell will have to half his salary from 50k to 25k at fulham and we are now only asking 1m for Reo Coker, just to get him off the books...(all rumours though) |
Joky
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... I might be missing the point but wouldn't the money be best spent on a striker! I know keane is rumoured but a up and coming or another quality striker would help our goal issue. Midfeild seems ok. Even if Milner goes. |
jk92293
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... well damo wouldnt post my comment about nmurreys pub on o'connell st on thursday, so hopefully he will let this through. anyone get their invite from peter at the villas supporter club? anyone going? |
bobvillian
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... do you get the feeling that milner aint going anywhere then where does it leave us;up the river without a paddle?cant get rid of our average players because of there high wages;only a small amount of money to tempt any signing;all of a sudden it looks bleak.r/b;top midfielder;and goalscorer needed to yust stay still. |
Villa_Chris
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... You going to be watching Villa over the next few days ak? Over in your neck of the woods aren't they? |
ak_27
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... They are but ive decided to actually head up to Croke Park for the Gaelic Football games on Sat which are on at the same time. The Villa Bohs friendly just doesn't appeal to me at all for some reason. Would have gone if the GAA wasn't on at the same time. |
Chiefy
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... To the people who have a belief that MON has been fighting with Warnock and he is going to go to Liverscum WRONG !!!!! Mr Hook Nose is going to sign Konchesky nice and cheap |
jk92293
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... AK - i'm heading to both. the Dublin game starts at 5, adn with Dalymount only 2k from Croker, you can still catch the first half and most of the second. sure Dub games are always delayed becasue we prefer our drink than being punctual! and i live in Louth, so the journey up and back in my prime BLUE will be entertaining to say the least!! |
Bosnich13
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... i'd love the flamini rumour to be true...i think that should be our focus this season getting one or two quality defensive midfielders to protect the back four while allowing fullbacks to push on a bit more...i'm happy to see us counter attack teams but i would change formtaion to 4-2-3-1(a la Germany at WC)...something like the below... Freidel - L.Young, Dunne, Cuellar, Warnock - Petrov/Delph Flamini/Witsel/Bradley - A.Young, Milner/Keane/Ireland, Downing - Gabby Subs: Carew, Fonz, Guzan, Collins, Aurelio, Albrighton/McGeady and two of the protecting midfielders listed above.... |
Aero-4-Villa
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... Anyone know when the new jersey is in the shops? I went to get it today but i couldnt find it anywhere. |
Christian1983
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... BOOOORRRRRREEEEEDDDDDD!!!! Jesus, we support the most boring team in the world! We actually have NOTHING new or remotely interesting to talk about. Nothing! Shall we slag off MON again? Or Cuellar at right back? Or maybe we could talk about Maloney not being given a run in the team. Zzzzzzzzz. Close-season is always sh*t for any football fan, but it's is particularly excruciating for a Villa fan. |
Geoff
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... I heard we offered Ashley Young a new contract! Awesome! Step in the right direction... |
Chiefy
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... Aero-4-Villa -- its not out yet probably wont be until the season has started knowing villa |
Villa_Chris
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... Aren't villa fans known for feeling sorry for themselves? Chillllllll Winston. Have a beer-can sandwich |
john doyle
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... any body want to give me odds that the fonz scores for england today watch it at 5 on eurosport he never goes 2 games for england without a goal even though he made 2 in the last game as the guy on eurosport reckons that he is the best player at the finals i hope mon is watching as we need to start the fonz in games now would much rather see him start than has beens like keno or this jock winger they are spouting about |
Chiefy
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... Sullivan has warned us off Parker oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh scared dont want him anyway stick that in your pipe and smoke it |
Villa_Chris
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... http://blog.sport.co.uk/Footba...cal_terra ces.aspx Nice one....we're 3rd best |
Aero-4-Villa
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... this is one of the best apres match sketches yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=channel |
VillaNick
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... Mathieu Flamini: Thats more like it! A bit of class and quality with a tonne of experience is what's needed in this Villa side. Scott Parker is not a Villa type of player. I don't think there is a pie and mash shop in brum anyway, so thats that! |
Villa_Chris
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...2 CB for next season might be sol Campbell and Titus bramble ! Whoah that would suck ! Not as much as first thought. check out this stat.... In the three PL games that Titus Bramble missed in 2009-10, Wigan conceded a total of 13 goals. Underappreciated. |
Villa_Chris
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... Oh I give up.... Its the top 10 terraces in the country and the Holte is 3rd behind The Kop and the Stretford end. |
nix2
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... MON is right to hold the Fonz back from game time. Look at Gabby, 1 bad game and his confidence is shook, he has 6,7,8,9 bad games after it. Thats down to age, discipline and managerial control. If The Fonz learns how to lose on the international stage his confidence will be setup stronger for the premier league. Also, if he spends his whole youth winning reserve leagues/cups etc... he'll have the winning attitude, and that my friends is what this team is missing. The experience of success, that was so apparent at Wembley both times! |
bobvillian
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... put the fonz in place of gabby;better ball control;awareness;and a better finisher.gabby had 8one to one with goalkeepers last season [did not score one]I rest my case |
Aero-4-Villa
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... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/spo...etsk.html? s**te... imagine we had gotten him and Joe Cole. The rise in Villa's stature would have been huge. Players like Sneijder would actually become interested with the prospect of joining us. We need some big name signings!! |
ak_27
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... Does anyone think that Eduardo would ever have joined the likes of Shakdar Donesk if they hadn't won the UEFA Cup? Not a chance. This is why i honestly feel this cup should be our number one cup target at the very least. |
McParland
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... Would like the classy flamini at villa instead of the old hammers work hose scot parker,and for £5 million its a bargain so tell gold and the other guy? keep parker hes not worth the money your after. |
Bosnich13
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... Ak_27 - of course Eduardo would have joined a club like Shaktar had they not won the UEFA Cup - it's all about the money and lets not forget the team they built (that won the UEFA Cup) was full of Brazilians, in addition to some really good players such as Srna, Rat etc...Shaktar are a big club with lots of Champions League experience, they pay big wages and compete for every domestic honour in addition to the tin they won against Werder - which in turn increased their profile further, in fact if anything they had a better team then...i do agree that the Europa league is a competition that is very winnable - you only have to look at the likes of Celtic, Rangers, Fulham, Middlesboro being in recent finals and i think we should make a real challenge for it this year...last year i didnt mind getting knocked out but we must make an impact on a continental stage - we are established in our own league, we punch our weight so i feel to attract foreign players to our club we must signal our intent in Europe |
churchill
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...Interesting...imagine if he had better supply from the midfield instead of cross after cross? Chris Very interesting indeed. Where did you read that? I did'nt realise we were now the only club that have not bought anyone, I just wonder what message it sends to Milner, Young etc. What is the matter with you people? Buying players is about improving our chances to win matches not sending messages. Think of it like this - we won't sign anybody, principally because it's hard to improve on the first team squad and the youngsters coming through. If we do sign someone, it will be a bonus. The only player likely to improve us is McGeady even though it's a big risk. He may well be unable to cross a ball and he may go up cul-de-sacs but he's exciting to watch I'll be quite happy if we sign no-one. |
Martin Laursen
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... Great goal by Delfouneso ruled out for no reason.John Doyle won't be happy........ |
hotmonocle
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... it is worrying that Eduardo has chosen Russia rather than staying in England think he is worth a punt just needs a new start & regular first team football -exactly the player we want! As usual it will be last minute.com and we will be left with the likes of Carlton Cole + Mcgeedy cmon O'Neill be bold for a change |
john doyle
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... martin laurson you are dead right do you the the refs are bent againt england and want the duch through as that ref should never be allowed to rf again it was that bad twice as bad as fat franks |
bobvillian
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... trust me MON will never buy a top player with class;he only buys workmanlike players who put a shift in FULL STOP. I fear for us this season if the players we are supposted to be after do not end up at villa park.IF he brings in keane;bentley two players who can change a game we will be very lucky indeed. |
john doyle
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... dont think mon is botherd by europe he might play the kids but i dont want him to through them all in together like last time we need to bring them through 1 or 2 at the most in the team they need ti play with the first team and know how they have got to addapt to the syle and pace of mons play i want the kids to be given a chance but not all together as for england u19 thought they were piss poor very much like the full england team cannot hold on to the ball fonz was poor by his standards but he had no support though his goal was a good one the ref was deff bent |
john doyle
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... would love flamini at villa park a bit of craft as we have none at the moment would rasther have him at 5 mill than some jock at 10mill who runs up his own arse we have downing for that |
dingbat
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... I see porno man has said we haven't got the money to buy Parker. Bit rich from a bloke who wants to move into a stadium that we as tax payers have paid for!!! Redevelop your own ground you sleazy old git. Lets see how much money that leaves you to spend on players!! |
FatKevs
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... I wonder what clough would have to say about MoNs stlye of airbourne football. I enjoyed the last few programmes on TV and will always consider him a great manager, how he hated Dirty Leeds I wish MoN had learned something off the ONE |
kohoutek
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... Ah, summertime on the Villa Blog, as constant as the tides. No early signings, much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Thank god the world cup took up a month. |
True Villan
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... expect MON to make a purchase any day now,he has narrowed it down to beef or pork for sunday lunch and will move before the sunday midday deadline!! (just) |
mjasghar
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... About Eduardo Shaktar is in Croatia not Russia Also this is a Brazilian who sold out to Croatia so he could get an international place and whined about that tackle as if it was malicious which it wasn't He seems like another of these foreign players who can't think outside of the sky4 and that's not what we need Btw scallies make me laugh the way they are going on about jokehole - the merc little c**t is takin 90k min a week of them and he thinks he loves them |
VillaNick
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... I see the Mirror are suggesting that MON wants straight cash for Milner as opposed to player(s) plus cash from Man. City! They now claim Milner is not going renew his contract as he been priced out of his "dream" move. These stories amaze me..................... |
Chiefy
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...it is worrying that Eduardo has chosen Russia rather than staying in England think he is worth a punt just needs a new start & regular first team football -exactly the player we want! Eduardo is not the player we want at all, he is s**te he would be a huge gamble because it looks like he has never got over his leg. Arsenal have sold him because he is ....... exactly there is no point buying a player that is being sold for no other reason other than he is s**te and not performing. As someone said sold out his country just so he could be an international says it all. A new start is exactly what he does need but not with us, we have been carrying enough players just for the journey and that is exactly what he would have been. I am over the moon we didnt sign him it would have been another complete waste of time |
bobvillian
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... I have to get this of my chest about MON.everybody has there apinions about him and i respect that.for whats it worth this is mine;he is thought of by many as 1 of the best managers around. My view is that he won things at celtic which really is no great shake as its either them or rangers who win titles. Leicester he won league cup with a very boring workmanlike side.Villa he starts his 5year in charge and still he has not got a full-back partneship;no quality midfielder;no 20goalscorer.Now 3 weeks to go to new season still no signing in sight;No comments by MON on his entensions only him talking about winter breaks.If he has no money to spend come out and tell the supporters that;but not MON he is so secretive;in my mind he is overrated and MUST GO |
Villa_Chris
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... Churchill I follow something called 'opta sports' on twitter and they are always giving you stats to do with football. On Eduardo, check out this stat: Eduardo converted 23.5% of his shots in the Premier League before his injury v B'ham City in Feb 2008, but just 6.3% after. Affected |
Chiefy
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... Milner you are not bigger than the club so dont think for one minute you are. Milner if Citeh thought that much of you they would meet the valuation, but seen as though they have midfielders coming out there arse they dont need you hence they wont the valuation. If it is indeed your dream move hand in a transfer request. Milner I think you need to take stock and consider a few things, it was MON that has put you on the peddle stool you are on now, you where by all accounts a s**te winger who got mugged every week, now your in the middle and you have a "good engine" all of a sudden everyone is hanging out your arse, personally i dont think your that good and if it was me and you wanted to throw your toys out because of this Citeh "dream move" i would let you rot in the reserves, you should take a look at Mr A Young who is by far more instrumental and valuable to our club then your are, Young know's where his bread is buttered and his development and value will only increase because of MON. You gave the impression to all that you are a level headed young man, which many a manager have been quoted as saying, yet the press would have you believe you are doing a Barry on us. Milner your ego has inflated and you now consider yourself better than what you really are just because Citeh want a name to cut the oranges for them. Even though MON is clearly a fan of yours I wish that this all back fires on you, as I have said you are an overrated midfielder who was moved inside because you where s**te on the wing !!! I wish to god MON or Randy had the minerals to shove in the reserves and let you rot, you wanna move hand in a request you wanna stay sign a contract you dont want to either of them go back to cleaning boots in the reserves YOU ARE NOT THAT GOOD !!!! |
Andy
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... Chiefy....I just need to point out this is a tabloid report and I have not seen any comment from Milner or the club. Don't read too much into all this. It's very much more than likely a load of bull. Even if it was true you would yourself wait to see what options are open to you. You would be stupid just to sign a contract without weighing up all your options. Milner has a contract with Aston Villa. Both Milner and Villa know exactly hos long that last. It's ok us fans complaining when a player does not want to sign an extension, but we don't get on the back of the club when they don't extend contracts of players. I see no problem in any player working to the terms and conditions of the contract they have. To be fair it is up to the management and owners of a club to convince players they are wanted and it's up to the club how they reward that player for their services. It's as simple as that. It's not up to any player to sign a new contract, just to send out a message to the fans or allow the club to recoup more money should they be sold the following year. That is simply not taken into account by players. We know full well what a mess MON made of the Barry situation. MON should have either convinced Barry to re-sign and reward him accordingly or have sold him to Liverpool. All that was MON's decision to how it all panned out. He was the one that 'should' have been in control of that situation, but he allowed others to dictate. It's easy to say don't give in to other teams, but you have to make such situations work for the club and the Barry situation did not. Let's just hope MON sell Aston Villa enough to Milner for him to re-sign or MON realises he can't do that and ditches his pride and does the best for the club and sells him now. |
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