There is a match tonight and it's a big match, but between now and the end of the season, we've got fifteen big matches. Fifteen cup finals if you want and that really is how everyone should look at them.

There isn't an excuse that is acceptable. There isn't a way out. There is no place to hide. If we don't pick up the necessary points it is because we were not good enough.

And if we're not good enough, you've not got to look far. But we shouldn't think about the unthinkable right now.

Newcastle at Villa Park

So we have the first of those cup finals tonight and this is another six pointer. Win and we go ahead of Newcastle. Anything other than a win and by close of business tomorrow night, we could find ourselves 19th and if we do and you're not going to like me writing this; the future wont be very bright.

But there is a chance. There is a chance that Newcastle, who are just one place above us in the current form table, are worse than us. There is a chance that with these changes they are likely to make, it backfires. Bringing in new players doesn't mean things get better.

Bottom three of current form table

Updates, team news and a statement from Randy Lerner

So, we'll be here for tonight. We'll be here a few hours before kick off and we'll be here, fingers crossed, feeling optimistic that it will come good tonight. It will come good with Lambert, the fear is that it takes too long. If we go down, we might not come straight back up and by then, we'll just be happy to be playing in this league. Relegation will be the death of this club unless we get a new owner.

So right now, you can probably tell I don't feel that optimistic and while the odds for this match at PaddyPower make us the favourites at 6/4, I fancy the 7/4 you'll get on Newcastle is a good price.

But the optimism will return later, it always does. Thirty minutes before kick off I'll believe we can beat Barcelona. And tonight is a cup final. If we play like it is and give everything, anything is possible. I've talked myself into a bet on us in two paragraphs.

But before I go, to the statement. I've not seen it, just seen bits, but I wanted to write that it wasn't Lerner that wrote this. It was a PR firm. It was a communication specialist. These are just words and they mean nothing. What we need is Lerner to be put in a room with supporters and for it to be filmed and for him to now know what is coming, although you'd have to be a very bad PR firm or communication specialist to know what questions are not going to be asked.

And, in days gone by, the owner publicly backing the manager was usually a signal that he didn't have long left. Could it be that if we get spanked tonight change is coming? There is only Wednesday and Thursday but a lot can happen in two days and it isn't impossible for those things to happen for us.

The players

Guzan, Vlaar, Clark, Bennett, Baker, Lowton, Westwood, Bannan, N’Zogbia, Benteke and Bent start. On the bench we have Given, Ireland, Lichaj, Holman, Gabby, Weimann and Bowery.

Honest view; I'm not sure about lining up with three central defenders. It promotes attacking from the wing-backs and you've got to have bags of experience to do that. Our wing-backs are also actually full-backs and they've only really played this way since they came to us and it hasn't exactly been something we've done for a long time or very successfully.

I'll write it now; three, five, two isn't the future.

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  • Can't Score

    ONE goal from open play in the last SEVEN league home games (TWO overall)... WOW...

  • nollaigmac

    Where the fcuk was dunne tonight? Splashed all over irish papers today that he would defo feature??

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    can see Everton murdering us TBH

  • nollaigmac

    was that the first penalty awarded to us at home since last january?

  • villa6002

    Vancouver said "The really frustrating thing for me is we could have turned this around a month ago for as little initial outlay as 5.5m",,then why didnt Lambert bring this type of player out of the 23 mil he spent,,no instead he said he didnt trust experienced players,,Lambert is every bit as much to blame as Learner,,

  • Get Well Stan

    Villa 3-0 West Ham, first game of the 2010-2011 season...

    "There's only one Randy Learner", "USA USA USA" - All heard in the Holte End.

    We all wanted them to strip back the big money wasters and focus on a young team. We are doing that. Give them time.

  • Lambert if you are reading...

    FCUK OFF Lambert while you can still mumble...

    See you next Tuesday...

  • Get Well Stan

    ""Lambert was delighted to see the crowd rise to applaud the players off at the final whistle, despite the 2-1 loss to Newcastle.",,,is this true,there was a standing ovation,,if true there is something seriously wrong with the fans who are going to Villa Park,"

    This is what makes Villa the greatest club in the country. Those fans, not the fans on here.

    You can not fault this team for effort.

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    We all wanted them to strip back the big money wasters and focus on a young team. We are doing that. Give them time.


    Yeh cant wait to watch Bannan being outplayed by likes of Walsall in league 1

  • I hate you Lambert

    We should bring in John Gregory or the trainer from the reserves from last year - someone who CARES about Villa and doesn't spout mumbling ******.

    I don't know how Lambert can go to work each day knowing he is funking useless...

  • villa6002

    Dont bother coming on to wind people up stan,we listened to enough of your **** last year,,and your on here to you idiot,,

  • villanto

    ah well tried 2nd half they heard me shouting me bolix off, nothing changes we r ****e, wieman is a god. great lad. bannon v cabaye, sissoko v westwood, trhere is the difference, geordies shlt themselves second half hung on but we are stiil ****e, what did randy mean by support ? is it money or his penis

  • villa4life

    Nothing wrong with 2nd half performance and every fan alike would applaud their effort, If anything it just went to show just how tactically inept Lambert was in the 1st half, Every Villa fan on here and further a field have been calling for a change in formation and go with a 442 because that is were the players look more comfortable, Our manager decided to wait till the 2nd half on the 29 Jan 2013 when we were 2-0 down and it would not surprise me in the slightest if the players demanded it at half time, His tactics have cost us points not everyone can be wrong from radio and sky pundits alike, The same mistake is been made every game, It would not surprise me if he started the next game with 3 at the back, I don't think he is the man for the job, I also do not think the names that are floating around like Curbs and RDM are the right men either, It's very bleak

  • If vitals turned things must be bad!

    I think self-immolation outside villa park is the only way to get Randy's attention nowadays.

  • villa6002

    "I think self-immolation outside villa park is the only way to get Randy's attention nowadays":):),,ah bollix its come to that,,,,

  • nollaigmac

    we got the gaa here in ireland and if this **** was happening on a weekly basis, PL ass would be toast in a month

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !


    I think self-immolation outside villa park is the only way to get Randy's attention nowadays.


    :) :)

    Ok then but you first.

  • Duster

    STAN,

    Go and irritate someone else..not wanted on here!!

  • Get Well Stan

    Sad state of affairs when backing your team only gets you abuse.

    Fair play to the fans that supported the team at the ground tonight. Those young lads will benefit from support like that.

  • Yes its come to that. I would do, but the price of petrol......

  • Lerner Out!

    John Gregory a great shout! Passion and not afraid to upset anyone and thats why Lerner won't touch a man like him! You've got to tow the party line to be a Villa manager now. Did you see all the stewards in the holte watching out for negative banners so they could pounce and pull them down, I thought we were in communist North Korea for a minute!!!! Diabolical tactics Lambert and you had the gall to blame the players for the first half performance. Lambert won't be sacked and we won't sign anyone and we all know this. Lerner hang your head in shame!!!1

  • Spirit of '75

    To celebrate this season, and a final apt statement from Lerner - free white flags for everyone at the last home game!

  • nollaigmac

    Jimmy's winnin matches, jimmy's winnin games....

  • villa6002

    Stan we have not won in the PL since Liverpool,why the hell should they get a standing ovation for effort when Newcastle are 2 up and have sat back knowing we cant score,,,,,,

  • villa6002

    And by the way im not saying boo them either,i dont agree with that,but a standing ovation is a joke,,,,,

  • If only if we hung on in games were we let the lead slip. We have done this too many times and now it's all catching up on us

  • Gross Negligence

    The club are rolling over....absolutely pathetic bunch of people running our club. RL is guilty of gross negligence. I'm quite sure he now wants Villa to be in the Championship. It's blindingly obvious to anyone that the club needed to sign players this window, yet the club have done F all when it was absolutely necessary to get experienced players in to survive in the Prem. This is gross negligence in itself, let alone all the other F ups they've made. Why is it again and again for many years now, the club just don't move or do anything while clubs around us act. We are always so slow to do anything, if we do it at all. The kind of people running our club are the kind of people that if faced with a fight would run in the opposite direction, or if they had to go into war would be branded cowards(and in previous times shot for it!). Apathetic bunch of gutless wonders.

    Randy Lerner...what are you doing!?!? Fans have just about had it with you messing around with OUR club! That's right it is OURS, not yours! Aston Villa FC belongs to the fans, not a spoilt little rich brat. I suggest you get off your backside and get over to England and sort the mess out that YOU have created. You can start with dismissing your side-kick(PF) and get in someone with some football knowledge and an experience of running a football club. You need to own up to your mistakes and start putting them right. If you do not have the capacity or ability (or balls) to do that, then please allow someone else to come in and take your place. You are treading on thin ice...I don't think you would want to fall through it. Do you?

  • Vilanto

    gross N
    i wish he would read your post, that would hit home would of hoped

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    What Alan Pardew said after game :-

    "I don't think we would have won if we hadn't signed Sissoko,That's how important he was."

    see what signing a ****ing player or two can do Lerner you muppet.
    £2 million Sissoko cost you cockhead

  • Gross Negligence

    Vilanto....hope he reads it, but I think it's wishful thinking. He is the owner of the club, the buck stops with him. He needs to grow some balls and deal with it.

  • villa4life

    7 of our last 14 games are against the Top 7, Not looking good when we struggle to pick up points against teams in the bottom 7

  • Villanto

    Gross Neg
    I totally agree with you, how can a man that bought a historic club for less money than the transfer of Ronaldo,debt free. start austerity through the **** ups of previous staff. have a gamble again you tight person you cant take it with you. Imagine the the many thousands of loyal fans that will once again be proud of the silent YANK or is that w**k? . You only need to give us a couple o quid we will give it u back when we survive . COME ON RANDY PUT UP OR SELL UP.

  • belfastvilla

    Absolutely gutted. Shouldn,t be as i strongly fancied newcastle to beat us tonight. But didn,t we all expect to lose. This is absolute torture. How could anyone who loved the Villa just sit back and allow this to happen. Its blindingly obvious we need a change and yet NOTHING at all except backing from lerner for the man whos gonna take us down. What is going on lerner. Are you f#cking comatose. DO SOMETHING BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, YOU MUPPET !

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    Lerner wanting to reduce wage bill is fine but it was suicide not to make funds available this window and should have bought players weeks ago. Its cost us big time and we'll go down with a whimper.

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    As for Lambert - Why is Lambert keep playing this 3-5-2 system?
    It hasn't worked before and didn't again today.
    it ended up as a bizarre 5-2-1-2 in first half . We were playing with a flat back five and 2 in midfield !
    Its no ****ing wonder Westwood and Bannan were completely over run and we pushed deep from kick off.

    He changed it at half time thankfully but Lambert ****ed up big time again with his tactics first hallf.

  • Villanto

    Agreed Belfast he is a muppet 48 hours we hope he can help us if he dont protest go down fighting

  • I didn't go the game today but listened to the atmosphere on 5 live and saw highlights, the fans sounded great second half. Applauding effort and not intolerant of the occasional lack in quality. Bannan looked ok second half. A difficult run of fixtures in Feb now considering our situation (though we should be targeting West Ham), but if we play like we did second half we might even surprise a team or two.

    I am a little disappointed with how Lerner could have handicapped the future of this club for a couple of years for that one shot at the Champions League, but we're a big club and the potential is always there. I'm not against the idea of trying to run the club at a profit, if that's what he's now trying to do. The problem is it's difficult to know if they have a plan or not...

    Despite that I'm still backing the team. Here's hoping for a result soon! UTV!

  • villa6002

    Back the team all you want,back them right to the championship,,and im more then a little disappointed with Lerner,Lambert and Fatty,i hate them all,,Liars all of them,

  • villa6002

    I knew id stoke a hornets nest by saying the fans were wrong to applaud at the end of the game but if people want to applaud for effort when we loose and have 1 win(Bradford) since Liverpool then i give up,,

  • George

    6002

    It's gutting - we all knew what was needed in the transfer window - the whole bloody world does!!!

    WTF!

  • villa6002

    George your right,,,i was sick at the end of the game,the last thing i wanted to do was stand up and clap,,what the hell is wrong with these people,,how the hell will the club get the message if people are standing up and clapping when we loose at home to a team who have not won away all season and are one place above us,,im baffled,,

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    thats Wigan , Southampton , Newcastle all lost to at home in last few weeks.
    Its really not looking good is it.
    These results and our awful goal difference are likely going to come back and haunt us.

  • PROUD HISTORY , SHIT FUTURE !

    No one should be applauding yet another home defeat and drop into the bottom 3.
    Its madness.
    Although in many ways does highlight just how bad and desperate things have gotten.

  • Taxi for Lerner

    effort was there in 2nd half after a terrible first half which was very much to do with Lamberts tactics and formation as it was to do with Newcastle being up for it and having new players. Lambert completely got it wrong in first half although i guess we should be grateful he finally noticed at half time.
    Mr Lerner should be ashamed of himself of pulling the plug completely during this window. He hired an unexperienced manager to manage a mess of a team and squad. He should at least back him . Yes Lambert should have done more in summer maybe with funds he was given but to pull the plug completely this window has been nothing short of a disaster .
    Lambert took over a bizarre odds and sods collection of players .
    And as terrible as we have been there was a few games were a player or two like that Sisoko lad would have made a vital difference in some of our results over this month.
    The sheer ammount of games Clark has had to play and Bannan when clearly struggling with form is unforgiveable. Lowton has dramatically faded in last month . Bennett has been dumped into the deep end . These type of players were meant to play every single game of the season ?
    Well we've seen the results now . 18th in league , worst goal difference and with some of most ridiculous Villa stats i have ever known.

    There was plenty of warning last season just how close we came to relegation . If you were going to hire a rleative inexperienced manager to turn things around my God you had to back him in both windows.

    Lerner you are playing a beyond stupid game and your stewardship of the club has been disastrous these past few years and nothing short of disgusting.

  • villa6002

    Why dont people get it,, Lambert is a liar,he took the job knowing he would relegate us,he bought players for us to play in the championship as was ordered by Lerner,no other manager would take a job with the intention of relegating a club except Lambert,,he is as much a scumbag as Lerner,,,Lamberts job is to bring us down to the wages of the Champ,which means playing in the champ,,every time we are doing well in a game ie UTD,West brom etc he will change the team in a way to make sure we loose,,i hate Lambert as much as Lerner and Fatty,,,,,,,,angry

  • Joking

    It's good to applaud our team after losing yet again. !!! Lambert says he has never seen that before !! Fxxk knows what he will think when he sees a mass masterbation in the trinity , if we ever keeps clean sheet !!!

  • Taxi for Lerner

    Dunne has had another injury setback apparently.
    which why wasn't on bench.

  • potts

    slice it any way you like lerner is a bean counter all he cares about is bums on seats when this team runs out and villa park is empty, the whole world and his dog and lerner will notice drastic times call for drastic action

  • Ozzy

    Is lambert a misunderstood genius or a complete fuxcing idiot ??? How can this guy get back to back promotions and be so inept tactically ??? Is he the greatest blagger in football history !!! It makes no sense

  • villa6002

    He is not inept Ozzy,,he took the job with the mandate from Randy to relegate us and he is doing a good job,,hence why i hate him,,

  • Ozzy

    Potts

    You have hit hit the nail on the head !!! Revenue streams is learner's Achilles heel , and he will get a major wake up call when we go down .

  • villa6002

    Ozzy are you stupid or something,,,Revenue has nothing to do with it,a championship Villa will not bring in high revenue but he has no problem with us been relegated,,Randy dont give a **** about revenue,he just made over a billion from the sale of the browns,he is not short of a few bob,,he just wants to own a football club whether its in the PL or the championship makes no difference to him,,its a plaything for the rich,,if he was concerned about money he would make sure we stay up,,he just wants to tell his buddies in america he owns a football club and his buddies dont know the difference between the PL and the champs,

  • villa6002

    Ah anyway my night shift is over,,hate my job,hate Lambert,hate Lerner,hate fatty,,,this season is the worse ive seen in a long time and its those 3 scumbags fault,,gnight,wake me up when this nightmare is over,,,,,UTV,what ever that means now.

  • Taxi for Lerner

    Just watched Martinez postmatch interview for Wigan game and hes still taling of bringing 2-3 players in.
    My god **** off Radny ******.

  • You are CUNT Randy Lerner

    It easy to see why Newcastle had no qualms about paying £1.8m for a player who would have been available on a free in the summer. "Sissoko really grabbed the game by the horns and that's what we needed," Alan Pardew, the Newcastle manager, said.

    The 23-year-old's threaded pass for the opening goal was sublime, exposing Nathan Baker's inexperience. The Villa defender was caught ball-watching as Cissé drifted off his shoulder before spinning into the inside-right channel. By the time Baker got his feet moving, Cissé was bearing down on goal and preparing to slip the ball under Brad Guzan. It was tempting to wonder what was going through Lambert's mind at the time, given that the Villa manager had identified Sissoko as a transfer target earlier in the month. What a difference he would have made to Villa's desperately poor midfield.

  • You are CUNT Randy Lerner

    you ****ing dip**** Lerner

  • You are CUNT Randy Lerner

    It easy to see why Newcastle had no qualms about paying £1.8m for a player who would have been available on a free in the summer. "Sissoko really grabbed the game by the horns and that's what we needed," Alan Pardew, the Newcastle manager, said.

    The 23-year-old's threaded pass for the opening goal was sublime, exposing Nathan Baker's inexperience. The Villa defender was caught ball-watching as Cissé drifted off his shoulder before spinning into the inside-right channel. By the time Baker got his feet moving, Cissé was bearing down on goal and preparing to slip the ball under Brad Guzan. It was tempting to wonder what was going through Lambert's mind at the time, given that the Villa manager had identified Sissoko as a transfer target earlier in the month. What a difference he would have made to Villa's desperately poor midfield.

  • You are CUNT Randy Lerner

    It was tempting to wonder what was going through Lambert's mind at the time, given that the Villa manager had identified Sissoko as a transfer target earlier in the month. What a difference he would have made to Villa's desperately poor midfield.


    From Guardian article : Your text to link

    You ****ing dipshi1t Lerner

  • You are CUNT Randy Lerner

    Lerner is a ****ing ****

  • weary stickler

    Ref: posts 20106 to 20110: well done, you seem to have found out how to slip in an obscenity uncensored, by using it in your "name"

    must say, I think I know how you feel, but dont agree with the way you are saying it

  • hvilla

    I dont think we would have lost yesterday if the formation wasn't 3-5-2 or 5-3-2. The best for us is the 4-2-3-1. I hope Lambert realized that. I think that Bent and Benteke can not play together in that formaition. We only need a CB and a ball winning midfielder. Hangeland and Diame. Lambert has to forget Bannan in the holding role, KEA and Delph for me.

  • Aupa villa 1874

    Won 77.86 on villa losing last night! Going to bet on them losing more often, mite as well take something out of villa being the easy to beat **** team that we have become.

  • ordinaryjoe

    We only need a CB and a ball winning midfielder. Hangeland and Diame. Lambert has to forget Bannan in the holding role, KEA and Delph for me

    h: very much agree with most of this: desperate need of CB & MF, and those two names would fit.
    Also agree that BB has had a horror time, especially 2013 has been awful, and very surprising to see his name consistenty on the team sheet. I used to be a bit of a supporter and thinking he was going to be really good (and Damian used to also say this).
    I have not yet seen KEA do anything much to be honest, and Delph has shown a flicker of something in more recent games while still retaining the habit of diving in recklessly when not necessary. For rmost of the season before he has been pretty anonymous.
    Someone was on here the other day saying that actually Herd did a better job in that role -

  • Won 4 league games all season and its simply not good enough. Randy should either spend £10/£20m plus wages to bring in a couple of much needed players or sack PL at a cost of around £2m and probably bring in one of the unemployed old guard of manager. Doing nothing is not an option, Lambert looks and sounds out of his depth he has no experience of fighting relegation - something I would have thought essential for managing our club - another Lerner/Faulkner failure!

  • hvilla

    fair play to Bannan, the hobbit can not play in that holding role, maybe he could play behind the strikers, but ask to him that play like Moussa Sissoko, Diame or Yaya Toure is a silly thing

  • Beginning to wonder if Lerner fears being in the Premier next season more than he fears being in the Championship.

  • Watching The Villa in August/September this scenario was obvious.

  • It's blatantly apparent that if things stay the way they are, Villa can't fight their way out of a paper bag so unless we get a couple of players in things won't improve but why weren't the club looking at getting someone in before the transfer window opened? Months ago we were calling for a decent centre midfielder but the board clearly weren't!

    The club has been run by a bunch of muppets for a few years now and it's time to pay the piper!

  • We are not getting any players and the only chance Lamberk keeps us up is 442 till the end of season and Gabby,Weiman,Benteke and Nzog starting every game(injuries permittting) in a 442 with 2 out of Delph,Westwood and KEA in the middle.He does this and we have a slight,slight chance.I tell you something though if i see a 352/532 agaisnt Everton Sat im gonna put my foot straight through the telly!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Now Norwich look like they are going to start spending, we will soon be cut adrift.

  • An out of depth manager and an out of touch owner - we should not be surprised at where we find ourselves!

  • Duster

    If Dunne is fit, he has to come into the team against Eveton. That way Baker could be switched to LB as Bennett is having a torrid time at the moment. 4-2-3-1 has to be the formation as this 3-5-2 is not suited to the players and moving Clarke into the defensive midfielder position will give the defence much needed protection. Bannan should be replaced with Ireland as the creative midfielder. My team to face Everton as follows:
    Guzan
    Lowton, Vlaar, Dunne, Baker
    Clarke, Westwood,
    Wiemann, Ireland, Nzogbia
    Benteke

  • Give it up guys, look at that picture of lerner Damian's put on the front page. That's lerner!

    We've got parachute payments, he doesn't see the football league as an abyss.

  • mon 4-5-1

    Why did we play 5 - 3 - 2 at home against our relegation rivals??

    Back four of Lichaj ----- Lowton-------Vlaar --------- Baker or

    Lowton ---------Vlaar ---------- Clark ------ Baker--------

    could not have been any worse then what we produced in the first 45 minutes.

    The manager cost us that game last night again, due to his stubbornness and poor tactics...

  • RockSteady

    As much as it pains me to say it - that blonde pony tailed welsh prick was right. Bye Bye Top Flight Football!!!!

  • I think lambert was told to take us down and we can then get rid of all the hign wage earners.Does this sound possible to you! I really do think this is the case.

  • hvilla

    Guzan
    Lowton - Vlaar - Clark - Baker
    Delph - Westwood
    Weimann - Nzog - GAbby
    Benteke

    Dunne has a setback, I hardly see him to get a match in a Villa shirt again. Lambert considere CLark a CB so he wont play him in midfield, but he can be better than we have at the moment.

  • vogra

    This club is on its knees at the moment, something drastic needs to happen in the next couple of days for this club to get out this mire, be it a change of manager or a couple of new players.
    Lambert is so out his depth it's untrue, he looks like a zombie on the sidelines.
    Its a pity we can't play our remainig games all away, our form at villa park is a total joke,the players cannot handle the pressure.

  • paulb

    WindofChange.
    I think you make a very good point in that perhaps Lerner has grown tired of the grief of being in the Premier League, which lets face it you only win with shed loads of money and investment, and would feel more comfortable and perhaps appreciated if we were in the Championship. He is of course deluded, and I think he underestimates that league in thinking we would bounce straight back at the first attempt. Typical of an owner and CEO with no football knowledge.

  • stevenh

    Duster
    Good comments I agree with your team choice if no new additions (well there won't be any)

  • Lambert's interview with Pat Murphy on 5Live was embarrasing.

  • I did notice a tear in Lambert's eye yesterday as it dawned on him just how many tactical errors he's made this season.

  • Every good half we have played I feel we have created enough chances to win the game in that half alone. Not finishing or that bit of luck deserting us which we really need at the moment. I would be really worried if we wasn't creating any chances, just need that midfielder to sit in the middle of the park to protect our defence

  • Two the tune of "There were 10 Green Bottles"

    There were fifteen cup finals hanging on the wall..
    Fifteen cup finals hanging on the wall..
    And if one cup final should accidentally fall..

    There will be fourteen cup finals hanging on the wall..

  • jcv

    Morning mate, now you are going to hate me for reminding you about this but you and me are a similar age we both went home and away down to the third division moaning about Norman Smith and then moaning about Doug but we were no different because we supported the team no matter how s**t we were. No different to todays fans.

  • darrenvilla26

    Was at the game last night and must say, it was a strange atmosphere at the end with the Villa fans giving the team an applause - to be honest i joined in. The effort of the lads in second half was immense and we peppered the newcastle goal - first half was attorcious.

    The formation is a massive issue, 4-2-3-1 is the way forward for us and the 3 behind benteke must be nzogbia, weimann and agbonlahor.

    We desperately need a strong physical presence in that holding role, i think westwood alongside "that player" will shore us up there.

    In addition to that, our back 4 needs desperately addressing.

    I like to read between the lines and from what i heard yesterday pre and post match, yes there is money to spend, but very little. The issue was wages, he missed out on a couple of targets because the player chose higher wages (naturally). In offloading Warnock and Hutton, we've free'd up some capacity, but it might be too late.

    Take a look at the squads of the top 6, they are fairly limited in terms of opportunities for loan signings of experienced players who will walk in to our team and make an impact.

    So what do we do? Unfortunately, go with what we've got. Lambert must take slack for his tacticial approach to the game, but he will say he can only use the tool's he as got (probably a very appropriate word!)

    Realistic targets for me (realistic in a sense of fee, availability and impact):

    Paul Scharner
    Chris Samba
    Tom Huddlestone

  • darrenvilla26

    Was at the game last night and must say, it was a strange atmosphere at the end with the Villa fans giving the team an applause - to be honest i joined in. The effort of the lads in second half was immense and we peppered the newcastle goal - first half was attorcious.

    The formation is a massive issue, 4-2-3-1 is the way forward for us and the 3 behind benteke must be nzogbia, weimann and agbonlahor.

    We desperately need a strong physical presence in that holding role, i think westwood alongside "that player" will shore us up there.

    In addition to that, our back 4 needs desperately addressing.

    I like to read between the lines and from what i heard yesterday pre and post match, yes there is money to spend, but very little. The issue was wages, he missed out on a couple of targets because the player chose higher wages (naturally). In offloading Warnock and Hutton, we've free'd up some capacity, but it might be too late.

    Take a look at the squads of the top 6, they are fairly limited in terms of opportunities for loan signings of experienced players who will walk in to our team and make an impact.

    So what do we do? Unfortunately, go with what we've got. Lambert must take slack for his tacticial approach to the game, but he will say he can only use the tool's he as got (probably a very appropriate word!)

    Realistic targets for me (realistic in a sense of fee, availability and impact):

    Paul Scharner
    Chris Samba
    Tom Huddlestone

  • Lerner Out!

    For those of you who applauded the team off last night thanks for sentencing us to relegation! Support the team during the game but let Lambert know what you think after. This deluded bloke now thinks we were applauding him and so does Lerner which 100% will result in him keeping his job and no new players in. Well i hope you'll be applauding in the championship next season because that's where we'll be with Lambert still in charge. Can you not see what's happening for god's sake, wake up because if you think relegation is a good thing you are on a par with Lambert. You've missed the chance to let them both know how we feel and good old Lerner would have been sitting in the good old USA counting his millions with a smile on his face. Lambert the most inept manager I've ever seen in my life and Lerner the worst owner of our club there's ever been. Good combination and I hope your happy with them both because if your one of them who applauded you deserve them!!!! Before you start bringing the loyalty card out, i'll be at everton on Saturday giving it my all but another loss will result in me telling the chuckle brothers what I think again and no one will stop me!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Where have all the supporters gone that kept saying we should give Lambert time.
    And we have to give these youngsters a chance?

    Well you all got your wish!
    Just means your wish is in the Championship !!

  • carl an villa

    I have a season ticket in the holte end , i have done for 30 years , last night i was a corporate guest in the trinity , watching the game from the side , rather than from behind the goal was an eye opener , i run a youth team u21s , if we dont play well i lose it with them , unfortunately watching Lambert last night he clearly is just going through the motions of being a Premier manager , he stands on the side , he claps the players but he doesnt seem to have any tactical nonce , except for hit the big man , he proved this the last 20 mins v bradford , his assistant is even worse with his aeroplane take off hand gestures , Lambert is ruining westwood , lowton , bannan and bennet by playing them altogether at once , our midfield is so weak it is embarrasing , bringing Weimman and Gabby on to push forward papers over the cracks . Those two players really care and put there bodies on the line for the villa , Nzogbia is playing for a move and who can blame him , there were rumours in the press box of David Bentley , Malouda on loan and Charlie Adams from Stoke , with bent going the other way , but i fear it is all to little to late ,

  • Heard rummors around villa park that bent will go to stoke to replace crouch when he goes to qpr!

  • darrenvilla26

    #20142 Guest (carl an villa)

    interesting post and would welcome Charlie Adam and one of Bentley/ Malouda at villa but would much prefer Huddlestone from spurs alongside Charlie Adam.

    just to point out though, you said nonce lol;)

  • smcvilla

    Richard Dunne has suffered further setback in his quest to return.Check the birminghammail

  • belcs

    Wonder if there is any odds on us playing in league one come 2014, must be worth a few quid given how the moronic board are running this club and heaven forbid if lamberk remains in charge next season, the mumbling buffoon will relegate us again.
    Lets face it lamberk can't even speak clearly without bumbling some crap and he thinks he can patronise the fans with his usual 'we go again' bull****'. He is a fraud, an embarrassment of a manager who does not deserve to be associated with our great club.

    Forget signings, we won't be making any nor would I give lamberk a penny. Other than Benteke every other signing is sub standard, why give money to someone who thought turds like lowton, bennett and el crapmadi were good enough for this once proud club.

  • jcv

    I agree to a point but I think its to easy now with the internet to let rip with a verbal tirade whereas years back it was sorted out with a punch up after the game:):)

  • I still think Lerner might dump Lambert once the window is shut then the next manager cant have any money to spend.

  • Old McParland

    Not the most flattering picture of Mr Lerner is this one it looks like hes just been kicked in the BALLS by Allan Pardew ,:D

  • Old McParland

    Well i suppose the result was a kick in the balls , it was to me .:D

  • GeiOff

    Mr Lerner you are killing Aston villa sell the club to someone who is interested in football as your surely not. Nobody got rich owning a soccer club villa needs funds the fans do their best but you just want to make money
    Sorry randy you've failed along with mr Faulkner so do villa supporters a favour and sell

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