Written by Damian Wednesday, 01 July 2009 10:11
I don't know what to tell you. We've been linked to Senderos again, Campbell again, Owen again and Wheater again. None of them, for me anyway, are any better than what we have, so it is very difficult for me to get excited.
Sure, if you could guarantee that Owen would be fit for a season then naturally I'd have him start week in week out, but you can't and the prospect of Owen coming, to sit on the treatment table, doesn't excite me. Not when we are one of only five teams not to have made any signings yet this summer.
I should also apologise for this getting put up late but I've written this blog post a few times now and it has, every time, turned into a rant, which I don't want it to, but with the players coming back any day now and our first pre-season match 18 days away, you sort of have to be a little concerned.
Things have to change. We need more quality and more players, so I am going to hope that Lerner isn't doing an Ellis and I'm going to trust O'Neill brings in the quality, what else is there for me to do?
So, unless something spectacular happens today, this is your lot. I'm going to go refresh the club site a few more times hoping for news, but why do I think we won't get any?
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Mr_Motivator
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... it will happen i'm sure of it, today or by the end of the week plenty of time! |
Mr_Motivator
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... isn't the Arsenal youth meant to be signing today?? forgotten his name, he refused the arsenal contract in favour of Villa |
Abdul Kashif
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... Owen can go to Everton as far as I'm concerned. I'd much rather have Tuncay at Villa as he provides a different attacking option. Well, it's that magical date of July 1st so we'll see what the gaffer has up his sleeve.. |
In MON I Still Trust!! (well sort of!!)
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... Everyone on this site has banged on about July 1st being the day all the signings will be announced....I'm still waiting!! Can't see anything happening this week as no one in football can keep their traps shut so surely we would have heard something?!?! I so hope I'm wrong....I don't think I can put up with the small squad escuse again!! |
adam
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... lets have a bit of faith. if we havent signed anybody by friday lets start shittin it  |
toastman
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... we are also linked with jamaine penant as well. (fans FC) I beleive the home kit launch is today. |
adam
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... us and everton linked to pennant but hes worried how the red half of liverpool will react so you can probably rule everton out |
rob h
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... loads of time. 18 days till the first match! thats over two weeks. just chill guys hold back on the panicing and slating for another 18 days! then you may even see me have a little moan |
taglor
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... OMG I can't believe how many players we signed today, what a great unveiling. You nutters that made up today as a magical signing day from nothing and are now already changing it to "lets give it till the end of the week" lmao you really are mugs. Yes we will sign people by august, but you can be sure that they will be late additions, miss training and will be average players. Why am I so sure? well all you have to do is look at the last few seasons and that says it all. There will never be a ginola,merson,carbone,angel signing with MON, get used to heskey, harewood,routledge,knight,sidwell etc, that is our style now, long and hopeful balls, goodness me we have lost our magic |
Billy7
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... i'd love Owen to sign for us, biggest signing ever for us, just have a dream of him staying fit, scoring 20+goals, getting in the England squad and winning us the world cup as Villa number 9. I know he could be injured, shite, sit on the bench, its just i've always liked him and would love that dream to come true. I'm sure we all would. I think we will sign Bentley today though!! |
cjd10030
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... With some shrewd squad player signings from players being released i think MON could then invest in quality first teamer, I wouldnt mind MON taking a punt on jerome thomas, noe pamorot or in particular lauren as squad players. I would rather that then spend 7 mill on naughton when we have luke young to play there ! we need to invest in a centre back and centre mid and quality winger ! What do you think guys am i talking out of my behind ? |
Taglor Is A t**t
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... We Are All Supporters of the same team why come on here week in week out and just insult everyone? the signings will come |
Mark Johnson
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... Senderos, Distan, wheater, bently, tuncay, huddlestone, deour, naughton, cole and of course Mr Owen, One a day starting tomorrow, I live in hope eh? I'm sure MON will do us proud, he has to it's year 4 of the 5 year plan. UTV |
Steve Sims
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... The transfer market has become something of a poker game. unless you're an idiot like Redknapp and happy to shout out about who you want to buy and drive the prices up, or have a bottomless well of funds and simply don't care how much it costs, then you play your cards close to your chest and keep a p-p-p-poker face p-p-poker face. But at some stage someone will call. and you have to show your cards and get everything out in the open. If that day isn't today, then it has to be one of very imminent. So is MoN carrying Aces and Faces or just Twos and Threes? |
Shakey4
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... Ive just seen on the official site that Zat Knight has been given the captains armband! Only Jokin  |
HT SWEDEN
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... David Wilsson is scouting the Scandinavian market for Villa, and i think with some good effort he can bring in some raw talent to the club, for no money at all (£ 1-3 million). For instance, Rasmus Elm is one of these rare players that can shine for Villa, Swedens manager Lars Lagerback says he is the best swedish player since Freddie and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. And there are more of them, Swedens U21 did well in the championchip. |
vijay
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... We are in a total mess, today there will be no signing, those people are fools who thought so, mon is slow as usual, will sign crappy players as usual and then will come the usual complaints which all we fickle fans will accept! i just can believe what foodtball does to u sometimes!! |
Villa4life
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... I keep telling you all..... I stopped reading the papers...... I am just waiting til the last week of August..... MON will never change his ways..... he did it at leicester, celtic and here.... he in very cautious in the transfer market and will never change...... this is why in my opinion we need a director of football or some one who can get the players in and leave the coaching to MON....... I think this aspect fails him in being a really top manager.....fact! |
TheJohnnyVillan
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... Elvis, Thats a good point about the 5 year. For that reason I believe MON will sign quality this summer. In 3 seasons he has built a team that went from 16th to 6th, AND consolidated 6th place. He's not stupid and surely knows that now to push on, quality signings are needed. If he gets the right players in, I won't be concerned about his timing in the transfer window. |
woodinho
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... I kind of agree that we now need to act fast, not saying we need to unveil 15 new players today but just a bit of noise from Villa Park would be nice, or some visible activity - just to stop the moaners at least! It'd be nice for us to prepare properly for a season, have the players in place before the squad meet back up, get the understanding worked on with the new blood sooner rather than later. Really hope we are not signing in August again though, as far as I am concerned that would be terrible planning - signing people when we are already playing!!! I still have faith we will get players in but hope MON sees the light, even the most die-hard MON fan can see cracks in his transfer dealings up till now, BUT, he has my support on the matter and am starting to get a little excited now the window is OFFICIALLY open. Up the villa. |
bass
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... Why do we put ourseleves through it! i bet if you looked back of the years to the same period of time on this blog we say the same thing every year and listen to paper talk that we all know is shit!! I think owen would be a good deal for us on a free, i think bentley is a done deal so fingers crossed of good things ahead. on the other hand we know martin no'deal doesn't wake up until the transfer window is about to close then he will come in and try and get a bargin????? Who said the home shirt is out today? is this right? |
jason the ace
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... I for one thinks sendoros would be a good signing,he's the bloke that will put his head in boot land for you and fit nicely in with Davis. |
Mark Johnson
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... TheJohnnyVillan.. he has to we've done really well so far, he has consolodated 6th, almost champions league, now is the time to go for it, achieve top 4, it aint really that far off. he won't sign anyone who likes to be a big time charlie and will unsettle the mood in the dressing room, look what happened to JC when he stepped out of line, MON's signings may not be what we expect,but we'll be happy you mark my words. |
woodinho
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... cant find anything about the home shirt, not even a release date, this is the crap PR that the club are becoming famous for and why we have so many moaners! |
ak_27
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... Steve Sims why do a lot of peple refer to the way Redknapp operates in the transfer market as idiotic? If there is one aspect where Redknapp hugely out shines MON it is in the transfer market. Maybe the way MON operates is idiotic? |
Simon
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... If Villa are linked with the likes of Cambell and Owen, why not go that extra yard and try and bring back Didier Six or Ginolla |
KEEP THE FAITH AVFC
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... The reason Martin O'Neill buys late is so that the he can keep the current squad intact, if he was to buy 2 new strikers tomorrow the current strikers for example John Carew might want to leave as he might feel he has fallen down the pecking order. Buying late means it doesn’t give the current squad a change to move on and therefore he has the chance of building a squad ready to compete. Just my opinion. KEEP THE FAITH ! ! |
Keith
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... ak_27 Because Redknapp talks about wanting to sign a player and then other clubs become aware he is available and they have the ability to outbid or offer European football etc. MON is doing things right, keep things quiet and try to get the best deal for AVFC. |
ak_27
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... Well i know who id rather have in charge of bringing players to VP. Redknapp over MON any day. |
Frosty
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... There's a reason why Redknapp is better in the market than most, I could land good players with a few bungs at my disposal, fair play he didn't offer the bungs himself, he got his colleagues to do it to keep his name clean dirty bast**d. He should be exiled from football! |
Steve Sims
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... AK - You're right in that MoN is hardly a perfect template for transfer dealings, I think we're all agreed on that. I think Redknapp lets himself down in several areas. Making huge noises for intended targets is counter productive in driving prices up, disrupting squads and annoying those he's trying to buy from. It's also borderline illegal how he covets players contracted to other clubs. He also has a scatter shotgun approach to transfers, which means that while some work (the huge money Pompey have made recently is testament to that) he also ends up with a lot of duds and inflated squads. he is linked with every player under the sun so he ends up driving the price of almost every player even if they don't go to his club. |
Richard Bunn
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... People need to stop rising to taglor's bait. The guy is an attention seeking child |
oldvillan
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... a friend of mine is camped outside bodymoor heath,he says lots of cars coming and going but cant tell who.(blacked out windows) |
Daniel
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... You all slag off Taglor, but some the stuff he said i agree with, not all of it, but some of it.  |
Paul Egan
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... Unless I hear something about a player having a medical, or some other real evidence of some transfer action, I'm going to relax and not raise my hopes. It will happen eventually. |
confusedvillafan
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... good for you yamyam, reading the crap these negative posters put on here day in day out is like pulling teeth |
runtingz
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... cant understand why so many fellow villans are moaning and panicing about buying player by today or the end of the week most players and agents are on a beach somewhere and the majority of player movent is yet to happen so chill and like myself be happy and confident in our manager and chairman |
ak_27
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... I honestly couldn't care less about how a manager goes about getting players in as long as they come. Maybe im wrong with this but all i really care about is getting as strong a first 11 onto the pitch wearing the colours of my club. And i would also say MON has bought as many duds if not more then Redknapp but at least Redknapp has also brought in players who have been sold for huge profits. Except for Ashley who has MON broought in that would be now sold for a significant profit? |
Daniel
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... confusedvillafan Yes we will sign people by august, but you can be sure that they will be late additions, miss training and will be average players. Why am I so sure? well all you have to do is look at the last few seasons and that says it all. I knwo Taglor's a twat, i've seen his other posts before. But when he says that, as much as you don't want to admit it, you know he's right. We all know it.  |
woodinho
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... ak_27 What about Salifou? He must be worth at least 27p now and wasn't he a free? |
Morton
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... look there is no point wishing... we are going to get 2 -3 players at best all who will ether have passed it or work hourses with no real skill but 110% effort. so we may as well get use to it.. untill this "don't want to pay to much" rubish changes then we as a club will be getting no higher.. if anything Everton, Spurs and others are coming thick and fast |
Simeon
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... The time to start panicking - at least for those of us who have convinced themselves that Marty has a clue - is when the actual signings are revealed. There might actually be one or two decent - though hardly electrifying - signings, but they'll more than likely be overpriced. The rest of the signings will, in all likelihood, be uninspired mediocrity. Marty will then attempt to fashion a slik purse from a sow's ear, but to anyone with a clue, it'll be patently clear that the best we can hope for is a top-half finish. The worst thing that could happen is that Marty moves early. I'm sure he's talked to Ashley and told him he's going to be signing real quality, and that we're going to have 'a real go' at finishing top 4. Of course, Ashley will realise the truth once the money is spent. Marty will therefore ensure that the signings are made late so that there's no time left for Ashley to get a move to a club with an ambitious manager. You've got to hand it to Marty. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but he is posessed of a certain low cunning. A bit like Baldrick I guess... |
Keith
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... Will you lot get a f**king grip! It is July 1st not August 31st for f**ks sake. MON is not stupid, he knows what is needed and so just relax and stop whining like a bunch of spoilt children. I WANT THAT ONE AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!! |
Daniel
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... Keefvilla You might be right, but judging on MON on previous transfer windows, you can see why everyone is panicing. |
THE AV VILLAN
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... Haha, i think my picture of Laursen is yawning too!!!! Come on MON spend some money!!!!!! |
Simeon
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... By the way, did anyone else notice that Marty is moonlighting as Phil Daniels' double? As a result, don't expect any signings until after Friday. |
jk92923
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... ya know, we are not the only club not to have made signings. everton, chelsea, spurs etc. its been a slow month all round. Man City and utd take up all the tabloid time with rumours yet they, themselves, have been relatively quiet considering the coverage they are getting. you would swear from the posts that we are the only team with nothing to show for the window. chill out people, our club is in good hands. |
Adey Stuttard
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...He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but he is posessed of a certain low cunning Simeon, really? Think you will find he is exceedingly intelligent! Or very sharp if you are talking tools! |
confusedvillafan
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... yamyam not everyone is panicking just the usual few who dont seem able to write anything intelligent the usual few who believe whats written in the daily star keefs right its like listening to spoilt kids |
rob h
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... Mon has built a squad and a foundation to push on. He has always signed the right players at the right time. He will spend money but not stupid money like some are asking. It must be sustainable or we will do a leeds, middlesborough, newcastle etc. you need to build gradually and sensibly for it to be sustainable. examples are there for all to see and not just in football. LOOK AT RBS and other banks because of their short sitedness we are all suffering from the credit crunch and worse resession since the war. this is why I constantly question peoples warped views of wanting villa to spend silly money on a quick fix have you not learned the lesson of todays economy?? |
Simeon
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... 1874, he might have half a degree in Law. He might make the odd quixotic comment. He most certainly wears spectacles. But none of this is really relevant. What is relevant is the previous work he's done in the transfer market (and when he's done it), and the way the team is managed on a match day, neither of which suggests that Marty even has that Baldrick-esque cunning. To be honest, I was actually complimenting Marty by comparing him with Baldrick rather than ridiculing him... |
Shakey4
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... Rob H I agree mate. If MON signed players early and spent a fortune the moaners on here would simply find something else to moan about and slag off. They are typical negative fans of today which are associated with every club. Being a supporter is exactly what it says on the tin. O'Neill will bring the players in we NEED! I would never want Redknapp as manager of Villa as he would put us in a bad financial state. |
runtingz
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... According to reports Gudjohnsen will make a desicion on his future club in 3 weeks time and it looks so far that its between villa and everton to get him...this is the type of footballer martin needs to help edge us to the next level and for me would be a great signing that would have am immediate positive impact on the team fingers crossed role on 3 weeks |
Mark
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...There will never be a ginola,merson,carbone,angel signing with MON,Can someone please add up the collection of tophies those guys brought to Villa Park? |
Mark
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... MON is obviously a twat. He doesn't want good players, can't be arsed actually because when we lose he's not bothered - you can see that on the touchline. What he must be therefore is an incredibly lucky twat who somehow has a record as manager that stands comparison with most - certainly Harry Redknap. |
taglor
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... Keefvilla etc, I am sorry, you are right and I am wrong. I should stop wanting good and exciting players and just be sure that MON has it all planned as he has proven every other transfer window. If i do that does that mean i am a proper fan again? please let me oh please do, I can't bare not being as good a supporter as you guys. PS keefviila you still have a little bit of brown on your nose lovey |
TheJohnnyVillan
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... When Gudjohnsen says he will wait for another 3 weeks to weigh up his future, it makes me wonder how many other footballers are thinking alike. All those slating MON for lack of transfer activity, footballers are actually people and need time to think their futures through (unless they're purely motivated by money)!! There could be an array of reasons why MON hasn't signed anyone yet, but I don't believe it's because he is lazy or doesn't know what he is doing in the transfer market. Some people would unfortunately rather believe this though. |
oldnick
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... We will buy players soon, we all know that we will. Most fans would like these players to be in place for the start of pre-season, but most fans would forgive if some of these players were not. But most fans, including I would not be happy with the signings of the campbells, senderos, owen, and godknows any other ageing former star from the 90s. The fact is we need at least 2 or 3 players of class, 2 or 3 players who could walk into any of the top four teams, i think it is needed for us to even stay still in the league( mons own words) and then we need 4,5 even 6 players to fill the so called smallest squad. Its gonna cost alot of money to do this, maybe mon will find some cheap gems but we all know that is highly unlikely and i just cant see lerner spending the amount of money to make us capable of bettering or even repeating last season position. I love the tradition of our club and i like what mon and lerner have done over the last 3 years, there is no doubt we have become a good premiership side. I wont pretend to know how to run a club or manage a team but it dont take a scientist to see what we need. stability is all good at these precarious times but how much of that stability is going slowly ebb away at our ambition. |
Kaz
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... It will be the typical Villa transfer window under MON. I doubt we'll sign anyone to be honest. I think this season will be one of transition again, with the youngsters coming through. I fear that if this does happen, then the likes of Ashley Young will be snapped up in Jan. I'm not expecting any new signings. Gave up on that since the last summer window. MON does not buy flair, just workhorses. I don't think he understands flair. Remember, MON is from an era where teams could get through a season playing just 14 squad players. Now-a-days, that is unheard of. MON wants to try and stick to that same ethos, and I don't think he understands squad rotation. He prefers a small squad, that much is evident. Problem is, the goalposts have moved. No-one else wishes to have a small squad, so, while back in the day, when everyone had smaller squads and used fewer outfield players during a season, now, they do not. It's the key reason why we tailed off in the second half of the season. Our players weren't any worse, it's just that teams around us had players who were fresher, and therefore hungrier. Our Crimbo schedule wiped us out, there was not the same vibrancy after the Crimbo leg of the season. MON will still insist on having a small squad, but unless everyone else in the Prem thinks the same, then the playing field will never be equal. What do I think we need? We need someone who can thread a pass through a well organised back four. We need someone who can control the game from the middle of the park but can also drive forward with guile and skill. I think Bentley and Milner could do this to a point, but we need something a little more. I would actually prefer to have Bentley in the middle of the park and Milner on the wing. But then again, this is MON we are talking about, so I doubt we'll change our squad much anyway. First game of the season will be this squad of players: Friedel L.Young, Davies, Knight, Shorey (Bouma if he is fit) Milner, Petrov, Sidwell, A.Young Carew, Agbonlahor Bench: Salifou, Guzan, Gardner, Fonz, Heskey |
arsene wenger
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... you lot shouldnt be worried about when you sign people,you should just hope when you do it isnt big phil senderos,althugh he has already scored for you lot at the emirates if i remember correctly |
Mark Johnson
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... [quMON is obviously a twat. He doesn't want good players, can't be arsed actually because when we lose he's not bothered - you can see that on the touchline. What he must be therefore is an incredibly lucky twat who somehow has a record as manager that stands comparison with most - certainly Harry Redknap. ote] I'm not sure it's MON who's the twat AVMark!!!!! |
Trezzy
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... Martin knows what hes doing, however id like to see most signing made b4 pre season training so that the players can get to no each other? what happend to the delph rumours? a couple months back it was basically done,now i hear nothing about him? |
rob h
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... taglor. the problem is we all know people like you! you will never ever be satisfied no matter who we sign, no matter who is manager, no matter how much we spend, no matter who the owner is, no matter what. It is this that gets peoples back up the most. we know now that whatever happens you and some others will moan. You said all the same bollox last year. And I do believe, and correct me if I am wrong, that you spouted on about not finishing even in the top half because we had a shit manager and shit signings. You said this stuff in nearly every post. correct? well that showed you knew f**k all then and you know f**k all now. you were made to look dumb last year and you will again. please give a season predicted finish so i can have a good laugh in january |
TrueVillan
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... MON has been in deep discussions since early this morning, an announcement is imminent............................... its through! , MON has decided on a BLT for his lunchtime sandwich!! |
Harry Stanton
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... Boooooorrrrrinnnnnggg...... Damian, can you block the IP addresses of the protagonists and wind-up merchants please? |
RobL
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... If anyone goes onto BBC's wednesday gossip column they will find a quote that chelsea are trying to offload ricardo carvalho and deco to inter milan for 12 million. Why are we not in there bidding that for the two???? solves our two largest dilemmas???? christ i'd pay 20 million, probably more! |
upthevilla
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... Keefvilla - What planet do you live on??? We will be sitting here this time next week with no new signing. Taglor is correct. Simple as. You my fellow Villa fan are, as I said yesterday, deluded. We will sign three average players and then Mon will go on about the size of the squad. The only way is down next season with that man in charge. The game has moved on, Mon has not. |
runtingz
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... AVMark sorry mate but if you count the trophys won by mon its around 8 or 9 in comparison with redknapps 1 martin went to 3 finals with leicester city winning two while redknapp won nothing in all his years at west ham with some of the most talented english players in the last 10yrs...therefore i dont think martins pedegree is really debatable |
Martin Clabon
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... Simeon, here's an idea. Come back when you're fit to kiss MON's ass. Taglor, if Keef has brown on his nose it's from sniffing th shit you talk Elvis, AVMark has discovered something called irony |
EdVilla
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... I think people are being a bit harsh on MON as when he first took over we were looking like going down he has improved year on year,changed the squad with only Gabby and Gardner still at the club and did a bit of great business getting young and carew I think buying english players is the way to go he has taken risks with buying milner for 12m but agree now is time to take the next step or walk away signings to go to next step Bentley,J.Cole,Richards,Distin,Naughton and Owen Signings and he should walk Pennant,Huddlestone,Sol Campbell,Bramble, up to you Martin but please make your mind up quickly! |
Adey Stuttard
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... upthevilla, and we will continue to improve as we have done so far under MoN. What do you and people like Taglor want? Ronaldo, Kaka, etc? You guys are living in the Champ Manger dreamland and not the real world. |
Jake Gardner
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... Just saw the comments about the Home Shirt It will Be released on august 13th my mate works in villa village, she will be seeing it soon, obviously i wont have a picture but i will be able to tell u if its shit or not |
runtingz
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... Kaz you have made some good points but please remember where we where as a club when lerner/mon took over we had just spent the previous 6 years trying to get rid of deadwood siiting in the clun like hagi, balaban , hakan k. and a huge amount of poor buys from previous managers now the squad has ivolved into a small but decent team that could have got to champs lge barring losing our best player in laursen ...we are now no longer a laughing stock or most under achieving club in the prem that we used to be we are in a much better position to now attract the next level of players and with a few good buys have a first team to be feared in the prem basically what martin is doing takes time my mate supports arsenal and some of there fans where calling for his head because they cant see the bigger picture it would be suicide to get rid of these classy managers and the future is bright for both clubs under the fore metioned managers |
ak_27
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... I don't think anyone really believes that transfers won't come soon. Its the number of them and the quality of them i really wonder about. Rob H you said he has always bought the right players at the right time. Sorry mate but he has not done that at all. Zat Knight, Harewood, Saliou, Sidwell, NRC, Routledge (i could add Davies, Cullar, Shorey, Heskey to this list also but will give them another season to decide) were all the wrong players at a time when we needed better. Now im willing to sit back and see who we bring in this summer and like i said i have confidence players will start to arrive soon but it the calibre of player that MON will bring in is what worries me(like rejects from our direct oppossition). He needs to up the quality this summer or he should pay the price for his inablity to improve his sqaud significantly. If the likes of Senderos, Wheater are brought in to improve the defense then you can take it that MON is the wrong man in charge.Time will tell. But there can be no excuses from MON anymore about squad size or quality. He has 4 years to sort it out. Time for him to held accountable. |
Keith
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... ak_27 why give Davies 3 seasons to decide but make your mind up on Sidwell after 1 season, disrupted by injury? makes no sense. |
Stock
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... I'd rather we didnt have this transfer window as it really does condense all my loathing of "rumours" into a short space of time. I wish MON would just say "we're not signing anyone worth writing about" and we can all get on with the football rather than all this bollox thats precedes it. |
jason the ace
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... keefvilla about time someone talked a bit of common, the sighing will come to them who wait. |
Villas Aussie Rep
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... WHat about Lucas Neill to fill in the recently vacated centre back roll?.... I read somewhere that he and the Hammers aren't seeing eye-to-eye at the moment. |
Christian
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... I'm trying REALLY hard not to panic or be too negative, but it is a bit worrying. Lots of sides have made signings now and/or made their intentions clear. None of these sides have anything like the urgency we need players! Tiny, tiny squad packed with a sub-standard bench and our 2 'best' players (captain and vice captain whilst we're at it) have gone too I am starting to worry becuase the names we're linked with albeit paper-talk are so, so, so uninspiring (minus Bentley). Do you remember the days when we were linked with Kim Kallstrom every summer? If we do have a Scandinavian coach let's hope he's doing his job! Though Lyon would never let him leave, nor would we appeal to him. Arghhh, the negative voices have got me.......  |
rob h
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... ak 27 i have to disagree. heres why. knight - for 3mn quid is a seriously decent squad player and has chipped in with some v good performances and goal (arsenal). signed as a squad player and does exactly that harewood as above but mon tok a bit of a risk hoping for a bit more. not all work out, ask ferguson, wenger, mourinho etc salifou was free nout to lose sidwell - still tore us apart when he played for reading, signed by arguably one of the best coaches ever before mon signed him. This guy will do a petrov and will come good v soon nrc - has done a good job for me and will continue to do so. Gave our midfield an edge when we needed it routledge - a gamble but at 1mn squid why not davies, almost an ever present plus england caps!!!!!!!!!! cuellar - needs a season. ask reangers fans how good this guy is! shorey - took time to settle, looked one of our better players toward the end of the season heskey - cappelo's first choice striker!!!!!!!! 3.5mn!!!!!! bargain in my eyes. if he is good enough for capello and mon he is good enough for me! So sorry dont see your point. We could not attract the top quality players with our sustainable wage policy until now. So just wait and see who signs for us now!!! |
rob h
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... I have got some potential bad news. Just been chewing the fat with man u fan and he said the local rag up there has linked us with bellamy. If man city get tevez then we get bellamy. Hughes has quoted saying there are offers for some of our players and we are considering them but we need to sign before some can go. |
Christian
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... Rob H, I agree with some of what you say, but I think Sidwell was a one-season wonder (along with Reading FC). Chelsea soon bombed him out once they took a close look at him! I know he p*ssed over us once, but I remember Stern John doing that... And Cuellar is a really difficult call, from what I've seen he's not even mediocre. But from what I've heard he's bloody brilliant! Worryingly, these are the same fans who think Barry Ferguson is a God. Final thing, I appreciate, like you say that a lot of these were cheap, gamble-free, squad players. However, that mentality is perfectly fine if you're Hull, Stoke or Burnley- we're aiming to top 6 as a minimum, it's time to look for quality. Fingers crossed. |
true villa
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... bentley is having a medical at the training ground tonight at 7pm. confirmed by club insider. press conference on friday morning. |
ak_27
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... I just want to go through this Znight was signed as our 3rd choice CB for a few minutes. At the time he was signed who did we have in the club ahead of him at CB? |
Harry Stanton
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... true villa, you do know that to claim job seekers allowance you are supposed to look for work. |
Dan Price
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... Right ok, time to inject tome reality into this forum. To progress the average ability of the team needs to improve. This can happen in one of three ways. Existing players improve or we buy new players, better than that of which we already have. The third way is to expand the squad should numbers be inhibiting our performances throughout the season. Now, I dont think anyone will disagree that we were awful at the tail end of last season and that a small squad / long season combo was the reason for this. We were 1/10 to be in the champions league before stoke equalised... all thrown away because of a lazy previous transfer window by Martin. Who here thinks that our existent players can improve so much over the summer as to compensate for the loss of our two best players in Barry and Laursen? Anyone? I for one dont, so our only choice is to buy the talent. As has already been said, we very much need a laursen and barry replacement to stand still and a quality replacement for gabby to move forward. This is the main target however it is clear that we also need some numbers added to the squad, this can be done in January if needs be though. A question to all those "patient" fans. If you are Ashley Young, one of the premier leagues brightest young prospects and the team around you is not only improving to match your own realistic ambitions but actually getting worse in relation to those around you... what would you do, stay or leave? |
ruffy
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... "we are one of only five teams not to have made any signings yet this summer" why why why why why why why. Every friggin year the same. GET SOME PLAYERS - PLEASE. Even of equal quality will do. We NEED numbers. |
Keith
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... ak_27 Craig Gardener played the first few games a rb before Knight and Davies were signed, then Mellberg was moved there. You know very little dont you? |
ak_27
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... So if he moved Mellburg to RB when Knight was signed and so became first choice RB that would make Znight the number 2 choice CB would it not? |
Keith
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... ak_27 no because Knight and Davies were signed on the same day but Davies was injured so Knight was 4th choice CB. Try using your fingers if you find it difficult. Or ask Taglor he is obviously intelligent. |
Martin Clabon
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... Dan, you are missing the point. The "patient fans" want quality signings and want them quickly as much as the moaners. The difference is not everyone thinks the way to encourage progress is to slag off our players, say our manager is shit or demand we spend millions on players who are either unobtainable or no better than we have already. Some of the critics back their arguments up well and I respect their views. Others just moan, talk crap, talk about players they have seen twice on TV or act like 5 year olds - or worse of all are either so bitter they can't see any good at VP or seem to relish us doing badly. Even to the constructive critics I challenge them to justify if the criticism, if repeated very often, creates an atmosphere likely to encourage progress. I am not saying you are in this camp Dan but also can not see how you have injected reality in to the forum by repeating what others have said many times. The point about Ashley Young, however, is a good one |
Adey Stuttard
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... Damian, I think you should put Courtney Cameron on the players "in" list above - £50,000, he is on this list http://transferleague.co.uk/ |
Martin Clabon
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... keef, don't wind AK up for god's sake, I can sense his head about to explode from here! |
RobL
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... sorry, lagged a little, i hardly think for the money mentioned on BBC that Deco or Carvalho are too old? Particularly Deco, i would still pay 15-20 for him on his own, worth every cent and more at 6 millions, or was that sarcasm, as i am unfortunately aware portugal is not in the uk lol |
Paul Theiss
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... Y'all need to calm down. Seriously. I don't understand all the panicking. MON may not satisfy your urge for immediate signings, but the signings will come. This reminds me of the summer of 2007 when so many people here held up Newcastle as an example of proper transfer activity! |
ak_27
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... Keef you can try and kid yourself all you want but Knight was bought as our our 2nd choice Centre back for that season at the expense i might add of Gary Cahill. Also Distan was available on a free. Let me count that one on my fingers?which costs more?? 3m for an already proven poor defender or bring in a proven quality defender for nothing? But hey lads if you want to just ignoring all this facts so you can keep beliving that MON is a god then go ahead. |
upthevilla
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... One of the biggest things to disturb yet not suprise me was that Gardner has been mentioned as a regular in midfield. Who ever said earlier that Taglor and myself had unrealistic managerial views should simply look at what our midfield could be this season. If Petrov injured it could be Sidwell and gardner in middle or god forbid that African fellow. |
Dan Price
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... SidCowanslovechild Firstly it helps emphasise in a less "toys out of the pram" way what those in the "ungrateful" camp think. Essentially that we all pay our money for our season tickets and to say the day after the renewal deadline Barry was sold is not very nice. However this should all be ok because "the funds will be in place" and MON has on countless occassions admitted we need to bring in far more players than any other squad in the prem... its really good that he is aware of this and has been for the last three seasons because that means he can do something about it right? just like he has been doing for the last three seasons? The point is it is all well and good admitting you have a problem, but rectifying it is another matter entirely. I will not call MON an idiot, as he is fully aware of the situation, but I do however thing he is as bad as rectifying it as he is good at man management. Take that how you will. I am speaking purely on facts and figures that you have seen since he has arrive. Personally I believe had we not bought Heskey - who we all know was going to be awful, but is very pally with MON, we would have finished top 4. He was a hinderence rather than an attribute. Carew out of favour, the only man capable of scoring goals we have... nice, lets drop him. Lets buy a left back, our only one and bench him, play our right back at left back and our DM at right back? come on, i think anyone has got to see he spends the off season stocking up in either amsterdam or jamaica. However I am hopeful. I think Bentley can add alot especially as he young and milner can rotate around. Multifunctional players can essentially add squad numbers. Who needs 5 more squad players when you have John O Shea...? If dealt with intelligently we can operate with a smaller squad than most, however being dealt with at all is what im hoping for at the moment as I am sure Ashley young is. |
stephen may
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... There will never be a ginola,merson,carbone,angel signing with MON, No but there will be , Ashley Young , John Carew , Petrov , Luke young ,Freidel,Cuellar , Davies , Shorey ,Sidwell (those last four will come good i promise! , relax everyone he know's what he's at!more will come! |
parisianrob
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... 1st July pigs are flying over villa park again another blank day and duff rumour |
Adey Stuttard
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... "that African fellow" Real fan, eh? Salifou is who I amassuming you are talking about. To be honest given a run there is Sidwell, Gardner and NRC to deputise for Petrov (assuming we sign no-one in midfield which seems to be the general consensus of all the "Tags" on here!) |
cjd10030
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... Looking through that transfer league website history, there are five real stand out shocking decisions, two from o'neill and three from o'leary (i think). That being O'neill letting cahill (obviously) and Angel leave and DO'L letting Boaz Myhill go, (what an error- quality keeper in the making), Solano going and Crouch being let go for a mere 2Million ! |
Ayersy
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... AK_27 first off, like Keef said Davies was signed same day as Knight, and im also sure O'neill would of been working on bringing in a right back which maybe didnt come off, therefore moving Mellberg to right back, but when Knight was signed he was behind Laursen, Davies and Mellberg, which also explains the signing of Cuellar. Knight has never been bought as a first choice CB. Also Cahill while is very good now, wanst good enough to be in our starting 11 at the time and wanted to leave to get first team football, you cant hold a player against his will. Also O'neill spoke to Distin and he turned us down, get your facts right you muppet, and lets be honest after last seasons showing Distin is no better than knight, mistakes for fun! Your one of the muppets that rates Redknapp above O'neill lol, the guy thats relegated teams with fantastic players, the guy thats won bugger all and never will, sorry 1 trophy! hardly compares to MON. bare in mind Redknapp now wants all of MON's signings, Carew, Young, Petrov, Milner, Freidel all been linked with Redknapp and the spuds this year. |
ak_27
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... keefvilla so when Davis was fit if he was our 2nd choice defender why wasn't he played? Surely being the number 2 centre back means when you are fit you play ahead of the number 3 centre back? So therefore Knight was the number 2 centre back. |
Keith
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... 1874AVFc So according to the book "maths made simple by ak_27" Salifou is our second choice midfielder.  I think that the negatives amongst us need to realise that it is still 1st July and there is plenty of time for signings to arrive. Also this transfer genius Redknapp hasn't signed anyone yet either. No deep breaths for a few minutes!!!! |
Keith
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... ak_27 You are making yourself look even more stupid than normal. If Friedel gets injured and misses 5 matches, Guzan plays very well and keeps 5 clean sheets does Friedel automatically play when fit? No!!! Now stop being a prick. You are wrong. |
Martin Clabon
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... Dan, I'd be the last person to say MON is perfect (actually not the last bearing in mind half the posts on this site)but when people say he is slow or stupid or incompetent I question them as he has after all got something of a track record as a manger and as far as I know there isn't anyone on this site qualified to replace him. Some of what MON does is pretty impenetrable but he acts as he does for a reason it is just that the reason is sometime hard to work out and when the genius's on this site see something they don't understand they assume it is stupidity. As I said, MON and the club are there to be questioned but the balance is all out in my opinion. The assumpption should not be that he is stupid or incomptetent or doesn't know when the window opens or that after watching a few Europena games, playing Football manager or seeing clips on You Tube they are better qualified to know what is good for the club |
ak_27
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... You seem to having trouble understanding waht first/second/third choice really means Keef. I'll explain it for you. If you have the option of selecting 2 out of 3 options and you pick 2 they would be your first and second choices. So if MON has the option (which he did for most of that season) between selecting 2 of Laursen, Knight and Davies and he chose Laursen and Knight what choice would that make Davies? (i'll give you the answer it would be 3rd choice). |
Keith
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... Sid Hit the nail on the head. I know a few Celtic fans and they say that the same crap was going on when he managed them. People wanted him out, questioned his every move, then when we was gone they wanted him back! Be very careful what you wish for people. |
rob h
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... keefvilla. you think along the same lines as me in all your posts. hence you are obviously a genious and i love you. in a straight way obviously the same kind of love i have for mon and carew but the carew ones a long story involving strip clubs anyway, i digress. the reason redknapp has also not signed anyone is because, according to the daily star, daily sport, the sun etc we are going to sign the entire spurs squad, they are going to sign all the villa squad then we are going to swap grounds and managers and then swap owners. we will then be the biggest club in london. Plus some fans who want redknapp as manager will be happy and will never moan again |
Matthew Clark
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... lets face it, if DOL had made the signings MON has you would all be slating him constantly. |
Keith
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... ak_27 You are a cock. Who was first choice CB pairing all season? Laursen and Davies. Now go play with your abacus you tit. |
ak_27
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... keefvilla really good come there. But by the way we were talking about the season before last.  |
Six Million Dollar No Signing
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... Oh shut up all of you. What a waste of energy this blog is during the summer. We are all painfully aware that no one of any consequence is coming to Villa. Senderos, no chance. Joe Cole, no chance, Defour, no chance. Tevez, not in this lifetime. Tuncay, no way Jose. Just wait until the end of August for Owen etc. and all the other old, British footballing asylum seekers to come to the sinking ship that is our beloved Villa. That's about all we can expect as Villa fans. |
Keith
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... ak_27 Yes we were but you fail to understand. Knight is not and never was second choice. He only plays when someone is injured or used as a RB (firstly Mellberg & then Cuellar) so please try very hard to understand. And what does "very good come" mean? You watching me with the girlfriend? |
Harry Stanton
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... "Six Million Dollar No Signing said: ... Oh shut up all of you. What a waste of energy this blog is during the summer. We are all painfully aware that no one of any consequence is coming to Villa. Senderos, no chance. Joe Cole, no chance, Defour, no chance. Tevez, not in this lifetime. Tuncay, no way Jose. Just wait until the end of August for Owen etc. and all the other old, British footballing asylum seekers to come to the sinking ship that is our beloved Villa. That's about all we can expect as Villa fans." fook me, someone buy that man a puppy. |
HEM80
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... I think that we are all agreed that we need to sign some quality players. contary to some on here MON is not a fool, and he watches the same game as we do. He knows what we need and I Believe it will come good. I will be honest and I certainly dont rate MON as a 'God' but he is our manager, but some people need to show a little more faith..Mistakes have been made IMO Carew being out of favour/Heskeys arrival cost us 4th, but all the wingeing aint going to change that. Some people on here need to relax a little, if at the end of the month nowts gone on then fine but for now lets just reserve judgment eh? |
Six Million Dollar No Signing
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... A f**king puppy would be better than the second rate shite that will be coming to Villa! |
ak_27
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... keefvilla i forgot the very important word 'back' there. Of all the bloody words to not put in. Look we could disagree about this forever so lets change the subject. Looks like Real Madrid are now going to also get Benzema. I wonder will Platini and Blatter have anything to say about that? I can't wait to see how they try and fit all these players in thier team next season. They still haven't learned to it is their defense that is shocking. But at least they will have the added protection of Ronaldo and Kaka chasing back to help out next season. |
Adey Stuttard
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... Six Million Dollar No Signing, Go f**k off and support Spurs then, we are better off without idiots like you at Villa anyway. |
darrenvilla26
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... i like all of you (check my posts last night) am frustrated and tense. But Bentley will sign tonight and be unveiled tomorrow....if i am wrong, i will eat my own s*it  |
Adey Stuttard
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... ak_27, Perhaps we can sell Real Madrid our number 1 CB, Zat Knight to help their defence? |
Billy7
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... stop arguing girls. Dont even comment on the MON haters comments, i dont believe they even follow Villa. Twats!! Anyway....... Bentley having medical at 7? I'm sure we'd have officially heard something? |
Six Million Dollar No Signing
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... I know. I'm just so wound up. Thanks for making me laugh Stantinio. I'm going for a constitutional smoke and then watching Murray do the business. Or is tennis still 'gay' as I seem to remember one of last weeks nore heroic posts pointed out? |
Six Million Dollar No Signing
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... Oh I nearly forgot. f**k off 1874AVFC. I was supporting Villa before you could even piss straight. |
Keith
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... Six Million Dollar No Signing Murray is a jock who hates the English - so anyone but Murray for me! |
NeilW
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... It's all too late for me. I haven't renewed my 3 season tickets. I just hope for the sake of the club that there are 3 more people willing to spend their money. I couldn't take the frustration any more! And at least 5 others who sat by me won't renew either. |
darrenvilla26
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... TheJohnnyVillan - i look forward to us dancing at our desks sharing joy when he is unveiled. I have another vision too....matthew upson will sign for villa...this will potentially raise a few eyebrows and temperatures too |
rob h
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... darren villa. you better put a video on you tube if he dont sign. I will want proof of the turd scoffing! just on the bently thing. Last summer everyone called him a greasy slime ball cockney cock loving money grabbing shit stabbing party boy queer. Is that still the general consensus or do we now want him? |
darrenvilla26
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... rob h...i intend to have a kebab tonight just to up the stakes a bit more to make it a good turd....im that confident he will sign!!  |
Harry Stanton
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... be good if Bodymoor Heath had a web cam - could watch grass grow then(!) I'm joking before I am the subject of vitriol... |
Harry Stanton
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...Last summer everyone called him a greasy slime ball cockney cock loving money grabbing shit stabbing party boy queer Loving your work Rob H. I am in the camp of it's his last chance and so he would play out of his skin... |
Mark Johnson
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... what a happy bunch we are, no news from VP, just us lot slagging one another off. Darren26, people aint gonna let you forget this if he does sign. |
Adey Stuttard
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...Oh I nearly forgot. f**k off 1874AVFC. I was supporting Villa before you could even piss straight. If true Six Million, I would expect you to have more mature and balanced views then!! |
Mark Johnson
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... If true Six Million, I would expect you to have more mature and balanced views then!! meeoww |
darrenvilla26
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... TheJohnnyVilla - i just am i suppose - what i dont get is all the negativity from other fans. If people are that angry, and swearing and cursing about the current setup, why not just go elsewhere where your ambitions are being met. I know for every 1 glass half empty at Villa, there's 1000 half full. Thats the way i will be, i wont judge MON or Lerner until the end of August - even then i wont be negative - the real judgement will come at the end of 09-10 campaign. As Damian, and many other pundits have said - this is a defining season for MON and Lerner. Lets just enjoy the summer, the peace cup, the fiorentina friendly. All this speculation seems to be too much for some folk, whereas i enjoy it and it excites me, im happy to sit and wait. Whilst i question some of o'neills buys - i also cant fault any of his starting XI, there's nothing majorly wrong, we just need more strength in depth and a 4-5 quality signings, and i honestly believe they will come. MON isn't stupid, we all know that, the pressure is on from all angles (past and present villa stars) for him to add to the squad. The pressure isn't on us to sign them, its him, we will always be here for villa, we're villa through and through, so lets just continue to do what we do best and support villa and be positive. The future's bright - the future's Villa! |
rob h
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... to lighten the mood ................. a joke. Whats a farmer and david sullivan got in common? |
Carl Main
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... RobL...I would love to see those two at Villa but where would you rather go?..Inter Milan or Aston Villa? I just cant see why players arnt attracted to us? We have a mint stadium, the best training ground in the country, good manager and chairman!!....Is it our faithful city that lets us down?...is it us load of moaning bastards that puts players off??...what is it? |
TheColonel
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... To be honest i totally 100% agree with Taglors first post. I dont think anyone can deny that what he mentioned was actually the truth. Still im hopeful things can change this window. |
rob h
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... every season they spread muck on a field they spend money on the neighbours crops hoping they will turn good and exotic sounding foreign crops to improve their product they then diversify having realised that they wasted their time and eventually fail and they have to start from scratch again. after growing frustrated by their constant short comings they try and sell up only to find no one wants to by their shit business. In an attempt to raise extra funds and cheer themselves up they enter the porn industry where of course they excell as they are all tits, pricks and c##ts |
taglor
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... LMAO 1874, SIDNEYCOWANSLOVECHILD, ROB H, KEEFVILLA ETC you are all having a big love in with each other and encourage each other by agreeing so that your unrealistic views seem right and that you are better fans than anyone else because they dare look at the bigger picture. Do you know what make me laugh most though, no matter what you say about me and others with more balanced views nothing changes the fact we are just as much villa fans as you and when villa do win something we will enjoy it just as much as you and there is nothing you can do about it. What are you going to do about that then? hahahahahaha |
1 New Villa Blogger
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... I've only been checking up on the VillaBlog site for the past 2 weeks....and i wish I hadnt. I can't believe how many ridiculous arguements are taking place and all over the the fact 16hrs into the transfer window opening, MON hasnt announced that we have signed 4/5 players. Surely if you take Real Madrid & Man City out of the equation and not much has happened. Look at the teams around us, Arsenal - Nothing, Chelsea - Nothing, Man Utd - Valencia (but would it have happened if Ronaldo had gone to Madrid?), Liverpool - Nothing, Everton - Nothing, Tottenham - Nothing. And the teams that have bought, would we have wanted any of there signings,.....probably not. That pub team from Small Heath have broken there transfer record on an unknown who lives off his fathers international record (have you seen him on youtube, he can run fast....thats it) Credit Crunch?? Dosent show does it, so if their spending 8mil on that, how much is a half decent player going to cost. I have complete faith in Lerner & MON. VP is a different place nowadays. Why all the fighting, come the 1st game of the season we'll all be singing in the same direction? |
Martin Clabon
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... taglor, which was my unrealistic view? The one that said you were a childish little moaner who likes US wrestling more than football, celebrates when Villa lose, slags off working class people and has got some crazy mixed up notion you are cleverer than anyone else? |
evanvilla
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... Just read this on bbc 606 football,a person heard mon on radio 5, and said he is a little worried about whats going to happen in this transfer window. He has dismissed any truth in us signing bentley, owen. huddlestone and naughton, and also stated that no new arrivalas are imminent at the moment, he says that the squad needs to be strengthened, but admits that finding the quality is not going to be easy, with man city having cornered the market financially, with spurs and everton after quality staff as well. |
Martin Clabon
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... PS Me and Keef hate each other, we just keep up appearances in front of the children |
rob h
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... taglor i have copied my previous post to you in case you missed it and look forward to your response. kind regards Rob H 0 ... taglor. the problem is we all know people like you! you will never ever be satisfied no matter who we sign, no matter who is manager, no matter how much we spend, no matter who the owner is, no matter what. It is this that gets peoples back up the most. we know now that whatever happens you and some others will moan. You said all the same bollox last year. And I do believe, and correct me if I am wrong, that you spouted on about not finishing even in the top half because we had a shit manager and shit signings. You said this stuff in nearly every post. correct? well that showed you knew f**k all then and you know f**k all now. you were made to look dumb last year and you will again. please give a season predicted finish so i can have a good laugh in january |
Adey Stuttard
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... 1 New Villa Blogger, It's all about banter and opinions, and the fact there are no "other teams fans" on here makes it all the more worthwhile. For all I know Taglor could be sat in the seat next to me at VP every game; differing opinions is what makes football so great! |
rob h
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... 1 New Villa Blogger despite all the banter... if you had been a member of this site and the last one for a while you would have known..... taglor is a legend. and although he stirs up some real shit he is actually quite well liked! I think? |
Keith
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... 1874AVFC "For all I know Taglor could be sat in the seat next to me at VP every game" I doubt Taglor knows where VP is. |
1 New Villa Blogger
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... Ok i hear that, n yes the banter monday to friday is certainly as massive part, but is there any need for the abuse that is hurled about especially towards Lerner/MON, the players? I'm sure there are players out there that look at the fan sites, it only takes 1 player to read an abusive message, take it the wrong way n think no one wants him there. As we hear all the time, footballs a confidence game n if you think the fans hate you, its gona knock u down! |
Kaz
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... The problem is a lack of faith. Not in MON's coaching ability, but the size of his gonads in the transfer market. He harps on about not paying over the odds for players, but consistently does so. 12 million for Milner was too much. 6.5 million for Petrov was regarded by over the odds by some. And the real kicker was over 8million for NRC. I just think he doesn't have a clue, and in my ever so humble opinion, Villa would benefit greatly from a director of football and some better scouts. All hail MON though, as even though he has bought it a bit poop, but also some good players like Ashley Young (I discount Carew as that deal kinda fell into his lap so easily, who wouldn't swap Baros for Carew?!? That was just too easy). Milner will come through, so will Cueller, but they need time and Milner needs to mature a bit more before becoming an impact player. We need a midfield mastermind and impassable rock in defence that can shout orders to the back line and shape them up. When Laursen played, it wasn't just his defensive quality, it was his leadership quality that made him such an asset. He marshalled the back four like a general, and got stuck in well too. Other defenders that do the same? Jamie Carragher, John Terry, Rio Ferdinand. Laursen was a much bigger loss to us than Barry, much bigger. If Liverpool lose Gerrard or Torres for a few games, they'll still be ok, but if they ever lose Carragher for a sustained period, they will crumble at the back. We need a Lion to roar at the back, and drive the ball forward with not only they feet and their mind, but their heart and the grit and determination that comes with it. We need a new hero, and that man needs to stand up and fight tooth and nail, fire orders to the troops, for without the back line, we may as well forget the front line. Who is that man? We are yet to find him.......but Senderos.....he is not that man. |
Adey Stuttard
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...1874AVFC keef, have you still not mastered this quote lark I'd say old age, but I'm probably not too far behind you.... |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... God...the slagging going on today. Like a bunch of women working the checkout lanes talking about each other. Let's all feel the love, that great shining happy ball of love that the Villa put in our hearts. Or not, all you stupid f**ktard cocks who don't know anything about Villa and should f**k off and go support some other team. |
Damian
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... keefvilla sense would be knowing when the transfer window opened and which clubs have actually signed someone only five teams in the premier league haven't singed anyone |
Martin Clabon
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... 1 new Villa Blogger, I don't know why but this site is a little skewed towards the negative. Agree with your point about what players and MON might think but if they read this site they would have left VP years ago Keef, you missed your last payment and the kids need new shoes. The restraining order is still in place so don't come round full of beer again, it's over. Me and taglor are an item and there's nothing you can do about it |
Altan Kargaci
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... So glad we didn't shell out a small fortune on Ruben De La Red ................ http://www.skysports.com/story...82,00.html |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... Damian- I've tried registering for the forum, but never rec'd the activation email. Requested several times, didn't show up. Can you help? Also, I can't seem to use just "kohoutek" here. Says it's already taken. By me, I think! |
Keith
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... Damian Who has rattled your cage? Transfers could not be completed until today. When have I made an error about who has signed someone? Oh dear I expect to be banned now. Bye everyone |
rob h
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... DARRENVILLA better read the post from evan. I have copied it below for ease of reference 'Just read this on bbc 606 football,a person heard mon on radio 5, and said he is a little worried about whats going to happen in this transfer window. He has dismissed any truth in us signing bentley, owen. huddlestone and naughton, and also stated that no new arrivalas are imminent at the moment, he says that the squad needs to be strengthened, but admits that finding the quality is not going to be easy, with man city having cornered the market financially, with spurs and everton after quality staff as well.' better get the web cam fired up ready |
Martin Clabon
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... rob h, the contrarian view says denial = mega signings on the way. I won't hold my breath though, but expect Darren will be when he's munching away on his own toilet otter. Fries with that sir |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... Okay, besides the moaning about signings, the other thing doing my head in is this transfer window business. Far as I understand, the window has been open since the end of the season. The slight wrinkle confusing things is that most players' contracts run through June 30. So, the window has been open, but all the players have been under contract until today. Now, those contracts have expired if the players haven't signed new ones. So, you could've requested permission to talk to a player last week, come to an agreement, etc., but the contract he was under with the old club generally would've run until midnight yesterday, just as the normal way they're written up. At least, that's what I think is going on. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... I should also say, that contracts would only have expired if they were set to expire, ie, aren't multiyear deals in which this isn't the last year. I'm sure as part of any negotiation, like during the January window, the June 30 date is entirely negotiable, but for wage purposes, it simply sets out the term for which a club has agreed to a certain wage for a certain player. Villa paid Barry through yesterday, now Man City start paying him today, unless some other agreement was reached changing those basic terms. |
TrueVillan
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... well, nice lot of arguments going on here then! the basic truth of the matter is we are always slow in the transfer window, as mentioned, one of five still awaiting a signing, but 2 of the others tottenham and everton will be after similar players as us, so maybe its just that the type of players we all want are not yet available his can be the problem with being just on the outside of the big four, we have dreams of being one of the big four, in turn the players we need to achieve this are also just outside of being good enough for the big four and are perhaps waiting to see if an offer comes along from one of them before deciding on joining the likes of us, everton, tottenham etc. although its annoying, fair play to them, its where we want to be so we cannot give these guys stick for wanting the same thing, but we will probably have to wait until they realise their big move is not going to happen and joining one of the gate crashers is their best option! |
Keith
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... 1874AVFC Everytime I do that quote thing what I type after appears in the quote. What you mean, too far behind me? Cheek! |
upthevilla
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... I hate to go on about this but, we are falling behind again. My view is that a) we dont have the money b) Birmingham is not a place high profile players even want to be able to spell c) Our manager is second rate d) Our lack of success e) The prospect of success f) Type of football we play g) No big names at club already. |
Tim
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... I dont know whether to laugh or cry ! Unless MON buys top quality players this Summer i think he will be living on borrowed time come Xmas. I cant see us being anywhere as good as last season unless we get the likes of Defour, Naughton, Gudjohnson, Delph, Tuncay,and so on. I will not be praising MON if he brings in utter Veg and im sure the crowd will be on His and Lerners back come day one of the Season. I will not be visiting Villa Park until i see the team significantly improve with Quality Players. |
Steve Badger
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...I hate to go on about this but No you don't, you love it. If you hated it, you'd stop, simple. |
FatKevs
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... Were we any good last season. Shit to watch in most games especially at home just releaved to go home with some points |
A bored Villain
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... Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah! When will you all learn that we don't rush into making signings?? Every single transfer window is the same, the same people ranting on here that we've not signed anyone yet, not officially in for anyone yet, might not have the funds... I used to like coming on here, seems its just the same rants everyday. We all know MON leaves it late, were 99% sure he'll have the funds and you can be certain he's trying to do the best he can to get the players in he believes will strengthen the squad and in turn guide as far up the league as possible. Rant over, My comment has been cut and will be pasted again for future transfer windows. UTV |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... The only way we'd see the sort of revolution in Birmingham that many on here expected and have been disappointed by not seeing is if Dubai bought Villa and hired a Mourinho, a foreign manager from a CL-level team who was going to be brought in and immediately given the truly extravagant sums of money to re-create a Real Madrid, Barca, Milan, what have you, with no regard to operating expenses, debt, etc. Some thought RL was going to be Dubai, and he's not. Never was. So in the meantime, I think the way MON and RL are going about it is the only viable option. You can argue about Harry and Moyes and MON, who they've signed, the ambition shown, blah, blah, but they've all ended up in roughly the same place....which is about as far as you can get with the resources available. However, I do think that if one route become impossible, you try an alternative. And MON is trying an alternative route, not trying to play a game he can't win at. |
Adey Stuttard
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...1874AVFC Quick lesson for the pensioners on here Highlight and copy what you want to quote, then click the little speech icon (left of smileys) and paste your quote between the close bracket of first quote and open bracket of second quote - simples! |
Tim
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... You can shout me down all you like on this , ive supported Villa for nigh on 46 Years and i thought with MON & Lerner things would take a huge leaap forward. I dont buy the part that Man Shitty have cornered the market. We keep getting linked with Players and MON keeps dismissing them, he is either Lying or looking for bargain basement junk which will be his downfall at the helm of Villa come Xmas. The problem is that id like to know whether he is even putting in bids for the likes of Hleb, Defour, and alike ? If he is just faffing about and losing them to the likes of Man Shitty, Everton and Spurs then im not impressed. He needs a kick up the backside if we lose out to these type of Players then buys utter junk. I await to see what happens, the Scum from Small Heath have signed about 5 Players so why are we doing bugger all ? If we lose to them at their place in Sept then ill be vying for MON's Blood because we should be i9n a position to blow them away with classy players. |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...I will not be visiting Villa Park until i see the team significantly improve with Quality Players. Personal choice, obviously, but for me, two seasons of European qualification deserves a full house and the backing of the fans, not "I won't show up until we're good enough for the CL." That would leave around 96 other clubs in England with no one at the grounds and signal the death of football. The more turnover, the more money to spend on players. Until you see RL pocketing that turnover and not reinvesting, you have to accept that's part and parcel of getting what we all want. If you can afford to buy season tickets, you should. We're top-half of the toughest league in the world. If you can only afford a few single games, do that. If you can't afford to go, that's just the way it is. But the club are doing enough that the ground should be full, imho. |
Steve
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... No panic but bored bored bored of rumour! Taglor is a bit of an arse and probably a bluenose so did his job in winding people up. But there are pessimistic people on this site! Were we not slagging off Petrov 2 seasons ago and now he was club player of the year!! I expect a big season from Ceuller, Davis and probably Sidwell and NRC if they are still with us which I hope they are. I am predicting another great season in attacking flair and if i am wrong I will hold my hands up but I will not slag off MON or Lerner or anyone who is wearing the C+B. Enjoy the anticipation or get you prozac dose increased |
Keith
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...Quick lesson for the pensioners on here Highlight and copy what you want to quote, then click the little speech icon (left of smileys) and paste your quote between the close bracket of first quote and open bracket of second quote - simples! |
taglor is a bluenose
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... Quick lesson for the pensioners on here smilies/wink.gif Highlight and copy what you want to quote, then click the little speech icon (left of smileys) and paste your quote between the close bracket of first quote and open bracket of second quote - simples! bang on ive always wanted to do that |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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...I dont buy the part that Man Shitty have cornered the market. We keep getting linked with Players and MON keeps dismissing them, he is either Lying or looking for bargain basement junk which will be his downfall at the helm of Villa come Xmas. The problem is that id like to know whether he is even putting in bids for the likes of Hleb, Defour, and alike ? If he is just faffing about and losing them to the likes of Man Shitty, Everton and Spurs then im not impressed. He needs a kick up the backside if we lose out to these type of Players then buys utter junk. MON is never going to talk much about his dealings, and Villa Park in general seems to a very tight ship in terms of real leaks. So, I don't know what to tell you...But I don't think it's reasonable to assume MON isn't doing anything. As to whether he's after players that we think he should be after? We may never know. It'll do your blood pressure good to just accept that. MON, if he doesn't break the top 4 in the next couple of years, will be gone, I'm sure, probably of his own accord. Or maybe RL will sell on to someone much richer. But most people are ranting about things that just aren't going to change, and forgetting that what's been happening on the pitch, despite their disagreements with MON over how he's doing it, has generally been positive. |
Adey Stuttard
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... keef, Perhaps the eyesight is going but you have an open /quote] at the end - there should be a [ before it to lock it in....or are you trying to wind me up Mr IT Specialist?? |
ronrabbit
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... This is getting beyond a joke. Randy has said their is money available, WTF is MON doing, we have the smallest squad in the prem by what must be at least five players know and our incompetent idiotic manager has done sweet F all about it. This is the same as last year and January, wait for his excuses, 'we are trying to find the right people', 'still looking', 'the market has gone crazy'. We need someone at the club, either a new manager or a director of football to sort the signings out, as MON has proven time and time again that he cant cut it when it comes to transfers. |
Adey Stuttard
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...Quick lesson for the pensioners on here smilies/wink.gif Highlight and copy what you want to quote, then click the little speech icon (left of smileys) and paste your quote between the close bracket of first quote and open bracket of second quote - simples! Absolute LEGEND |
Keith
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... [quotePerhaps the eyesight is going but you have an open /quote] at the end - there should be a [ before it to lock it in....or are you trying to wind me up Mr IT Specialist?? What me? |
ronrabbit
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... And to everyone on here who backs MON saying he is doing is best in the transfer market. HIs best is not good enough, no where near good enough. |
Adey Stuttard
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... kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly, Sensible comments, but the reality is I don't think we will hit the Top 4 (unless we get real lucky). There is so much money floating round the Champions League that the Top 4 will contnue to monopolise the league until the day that the Champions League is just for the Champions of each country (and let's face it that will never happen). Just my opinion, and obviously I would gladly take being there or thereabouts as we were this season. |
Keith
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...[Perhaps the eyesight is going but you have an open /quote] at the end - there should be a [ before it to lock it in....or are you trying to wind me up Mr IT Specialist??quote] |
Robbie Wells
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... Anyone think that if MON bought Michael Owen right now, which is entirely within our grasp to be able to do, that he would appease a lot of fans who are baying for any kind of signing? Free transfer...major household name...could do a lot worse right now...even if he is invariably injured. |
Adey Stuttard
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... Robbie, We could sign Kaka, Ronaldo and Eto'o and half this lot would be upset - "we can't afford the wages" grumble grumble |
Adey Stuttard
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...[Perhaps the eyesight is going but you have an open /quote] at the end - there should be a [ before it to lock it in....or are you trying to wind me up Mr IT Specialist??quote] Not even close.... |
toastman
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... M Owen in BRUM!! Just got back from shopping, and I was listening to talksport, with Ian Wright and they were going through the transfers, as they got to the roumous section, they only had one and that was Micheal Owen has been spotted in Birmingham Today. |
Steve Badger
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...I await to see what happens, the Scum from Small Heath have signed about 5 Players so why are we doing bugger all ? If we'd have signed any of their tripe you'd be doing your fruit ffs!! Unbelievable!!! |
Adey Stuttard
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... neil, Perhaps we are both after the best of the rest? Similar size clubs, similar budgets I would guess, and don't forget most of it is pure media speculation.... |
Steve Badger
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... 1874, Quick lesson for the pensioners on here smilies/wink.gif Highlight and copy what you want to quote, then click the little speech icon (left of smileys) and paste your quote between the close bracket of first quote and open bracket of second quote - simples! Or how about, highlight and copy, paste and highlight, then click the "quote" jobby? Keef, is your computer as old as you? Mind you, i can talk |
toastman
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... Looks like I'm the only one who listens to Talksports, did anyone else catch the M. Owen Roumour? |
Adey Stuttard
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... Badger, Yep, that's another way, but you have now caused keef to melt-down with all this new technology |
Tim
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... Would sooner have Gudjohnsson than Owen. Im sure he has lost it since his injury, he just does not seem interested !! Bying Owen would not appease me ! |
Daniel Wilson
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... I'm a bit shocked we haven't heard anything today really, I was expecting us to have a few things lined up for announcement... I am actually really starting to worry now. 8 days till preseason and counting, and nothing apparently in the offing. Whats the rumour above about MON distancing himself from pretty much everyone and saying nothing is close? really hope it's a wind up. Looks like I better dig out my stocks... |
Adey Stuttard
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... toastman, I'll talk to you! No, didn't hear anything about it, but would be good in my opinion! My daughter reckons she saw him in Matalan in Grantham this morning...but I think she was only kidding! |
kohoutek, home now and name still not working properly
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... 1874AVFC Sensible comments, but the reality is I don't think we will hit the Top 4 (unless we get real lucky). There is so much money floating round the Champions League that the Top 4 will contnue to monopolise the league until the day that the Champions League is just for the Champions of each country (and let's face it that will never happen). Just my opinion, and obviously I would gladly take being there or thereabouts as we were this season. Yeah, it's a big ask. I think it can be done, because of the what we saw happen this last season. I don't really think MON bottled anything, I think the players themselves didn't see it in them. They saw the ring, and were afraid to grab it. The Stoke result was about being afraid to win, afraid to impose their will and just refuse to accept anything but the 3pts they'd earned. But practically speaking I think you're largely right. The current CL teams either become a super league unto themselves, CL gets restored to just the league champs, or a salary cap, revenue-sharing plan in put into place. Otherwise, there really isn't any chance, except in Man City's case. I do believe they will, eventually, buy their way into the top4. |
Adey Stuttard
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...Manchester City have released left-back Michael Ball, midfielder Dietmar Hamann, right-back Danny Mills and striker Darius Vassell THE Danny Mills? Blimey, thought he had hung his boots up years ago - come on MoN, sign him up!! |
peter power
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... lads heres a joke for you and its not about our transfers so far,what time does that scots twat andy murry go to bed?? about tennish!! come on federer |
stephen
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... Doc3D..... I breathe,blink,think,talk,sleep,eat,drink,sweat,move......anything else you want me list....piss maybe??? |
Nik Skilton
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... Hows about Maniche, Kameni, Pennant, Owen and either seitaridis or neill as back up for RB. All on frees, then we could pay big money for a couple of players to boost our 1sr XI...? |
Halfwit
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... Martin probably wont sign anyone for another month or so yet this man is a snail in the transfer market has to be the slowest in the world Bring Back Gregory |
scott
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... villa NEED to sign tuncay bentley huddlestone defour hangeland OR upson and a 20 goal striker (owen? but I HIGHLY DOUBT IT INJURIES ETC...) oops soory 4 caps at the end |
gregdavillain
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...Hows about Maniche, Kameni, Pennant, Owen and either seitaridis or neill as back up for RB. All on frees, then we could pay big money for a couple of players to boost our 1sr XI...? ur defo a champ manager fan, who da f**k r half those players |
Nik Skilton
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... then add bentley, defour, huntelaar and a top drawer centre back for around £35-£40m and we'll be laughing... |
mick
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... i think leon osman out of everton would be a great signing for us he is surplus to requirements at everton and would fit in well at villa he is a good footballer.what does everyone else think. |
Nik Skilton
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... Maniche - 30 year old Portugese international central midfielder who was most recently on loan at Inter Milan and Benfica from Atletico Madrid. Carlos Kameni - Current Cameroon No1, chose to run down his contract with espanyol. I believe he is 24, and many top clubs have courted him over previous seasons. Jermaine Pennant - Former Liverpool, Blackburn, Portsmouth and B***s winger. Michael Owen - Do i really need to say anything? Georgios Seitaridis - Former Atletico Madrid right back, who we have been linked with in recent seasons. Current Greek international, highly rated player. Lucas Neill - Former West Ham right back, solid and dependable 30 year old. A little disappointed a 'football fan' does not know who these players are. |
Nik Skilton
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... Mick - how is osman surplus to requirements, he played more than 30 games last year for Everton. |
Halfwit
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... Madrid signing benzema now O neill needs to go for the likes of wesley sneijder and van der vaart Surely these players are now available for good prices and |
mick
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... ive got a friend whos a season ticket holder at everton and he said osman wont be figuring much next season.i think we should move in and sign him. |
Nik Skilton
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... mick - fair enough, thats a good shout, but hes more a hard working midfielder than the flair player we need surely? but id swap him for sidwell.... |
mick
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... yeah my mate said hes a bit lightweight but can beat a man but predomenantly hes more of a central midfielder.as you said hes better than steve sidwell. |
themadman
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... OMG have u guys just hears the news from avfc!!!! laursen has said he will return to aston villa at the end of next season GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
TrueVillan
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... right, pennant, vassell and osman being talked about, this really is panic time on here! sooner keep waitin than have that shit in a villa shirt! MON, please no crap like above! |
Martin Clabon
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... Toastman yes I heard it, Owen in Brum. Could just be shopping at bull ring though. My wife reckons he's signing for baggies but she winds me up more than taglor |
stephen
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... he asked me what i thought of the situation and i replied in the smartest way a blue nose would understand |
stephen
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... if thats what you think fair do im not fussed............i really did expect signings today |
scott
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... anyways im sorry 4 de launguage and soes anyone realy belive a siggning will be in this week? would like 2 say yes but therees fat too much speculation around too belive anything at the moment |
Adey Stuttard
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...so hows the family and 1874 du u have xbox live? Was that to me Scott? Family is ok (strange question), and my boy has X-Box live, why? |
Robbo
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... a friend of a friend of my uncle is a reporter for the mirror and apparently bentley is a done deal, possibly having a medical tonight. |
rake
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... what's so special about everything happening from july 1st?mon,as per usual has had A MONTH to sign new players,and hasn't YET AGAIN!!!.what's wrong with the man,why wait?man city signed barry and others ages ago now,and mon's just stood still.he must have had targets at the end of the season,so what the hell's the problem?!!surely we need new players to settle in as soon as possible,especially as the squad needs tearing up for a complete rebuild.we were shit after christmas,all over the pitch,apart from carew and one or two others.we need 8 great players arriving NOW we have a BILLIONAIRE chairman,so make it happen,your time starts now. |
Adey Stuttard
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... rake, Chill fella, he may have been working around the clock speaking to people to get deals sorted, we don't know who he is after - all we get is the press rumour mongering. However, I do suspect that we will buy at least one Spurs player, as Fat Harry would have come out and said that Bentley wasn't going anywhere if it was untrue. Possibly Huddlestone and Bentley with NRC going to White Hart Lane? But then I am as bad as the rest, speculating.....! |
fingerscrossed
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... 9.40 pm been to merry hill to get stuff for me hols, did'nt see any footballers shopping in the area, depressing, any im goin to ave a few day away from this pandamonium, and you wait when i get back we will have a whole new team !  |
Adey Stuttard
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... neil, That programme was a frustrating as the Villa transfer window - used to watch screaming at the f***wits to do the puzzles correctly!!! |
Damian
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... bentley would be a good addition and i think he would be one of the few that we need that could walk into the first team still need two more though, maybe three |
billy7
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... I was expecting a signing today, supposed to be at work but luckily the Mrs has swine flu so had to stay home and watch ssn, i mean, look after her. But nothing, off till Sunday now so hoping we get going very very soon!! |
Zorro
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... Sorry for being the carrier of bad new but AVFC dont have the money to invest on squad rebuilding and therefore we shouldnt be surprised by the latest low activity transfer window. Maybe if the majority of posters on this site actually looked through the proper news channels they would realise that AVFC are a club owned by a credit card company during a global credit crunsh - apologies but wake up for god sake as most of this speculation sounds pathetic. UTV |
Fitzy_7
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... so many comments with nothing happening. I'd hate to see this place if/when we do sign someone |
Andy Scarborough
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... Bentley would be a great buy, and as things have gone a bit quiet I suspect that he's close to signing. We're also in for Veloso according to some rags, he would be a possible too. Add two defenders to that list along with Michael Owen and we should at least consolidate 5/6th. A cup run or two with a possible final wouldn't be out of reach either. I also read some bloke on one of the rumour sites has a gut feeling that we are in for Tevez, now that would be something, imagine him alongside JC - scary!! Boy, I can't wait to see all the new names. |
stephen
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...please tomorrow when i come back from college say that aston villa have signed someone |
Zorro
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... 1874AVFC - You and me both mate but I just cant see it - I wouldnt be surprised if Barry saw it also, maybe that would explain his bizzare decision - lets face it, it must have been considered... |
Matt T
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... Zorro - I assume you mean MBNA as the credit card company then? Lerner sold MBNA to Bank of America in 2005... Realistically we are going to probably sign Owen, Bentley and maybe Hangeland. As for anyone else, I'd say a pound to a penny they will be people we've never been linked with rather than the 50+ players always bandied about as we are a top 6 club. Crazy though - Barca are allowing Bojan out on loan next season, why don't we get him? To be honest I'd be happy with getting Downing if he came - if only to give Ashley some competition so he doesn't believe he can be absent in some games and get away with it (plus teams know exactly how we play with Webcam anyway so we need some variety) Disappointed nothing has happened today though. Not because I think we need all our players today, more the fact that Bentley himself opened his mouth and said he was in talks with Villa and it would be sorted today. Maybe MON didn't like him opening his mouth and has pulled the plug? |
ak_27
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... Id be happy with Bentley. Would at least give us options. How will he be accomadated though. That will be interesting. |
Damian
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... i´ve deleted a few comments from neil because there was a conflict on his IP number - basically he was posting under different user names |
Matt T
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... I heard about the Tevez rumour too... Commendable we are going for him but why would he pick us over a starting place at Chelsea? Or megabucks and a starting place at Man City? We can't pay what City have, nor offer Champions League football like Chelsea, and whilst I admire the optimism of signing Tevez, I see no logical reason why the lad would want to play here. We would have been better off signing Daniel Sturridge last year when we had the chance rather than waiting for Ancelotti to come into Chelsea to snap him up. Do you really think MON would spend £25m on Tevez, or any play for that matter? |
Matt T
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... ak_27 - Bentley would play right wing I imagine, Milner left and Ashley Young as the attacking midfielder role that Petrov should have been playing when we first signed him... |
Steve Badger
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... Zorro, Maybe if the majority of posters on this site actually looked through the proper news channels they would realise that AVFC are a club owned by a credit card company during a global credit crunsh You're talking out of your arse mate. RL (or his old man)sold out donkey's years ago. Come back when you know something genuine, you nose. |
Matt T
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... Badger (re: Zorro) You're talking out of your arse mate. Couldn't have put it better myself. |
Steve Badger
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... I'm thinking we aren't getting any signings in the next week or so. But d'you know what? I'm not worried. If we are in for Owen, he won't be moving anywhere yet. Who's going to sign him when he can milk the Barcodes for a month. I think that's one of the reasons I actually don't want the money grabbing get, fwiw. Bentley has to be a cert, imo. He'll do, but my flabber is not ghasted tbh. I'd love to hear the coversation he has with carew. DB: All right mate, what's the score here then? JC: Well the dough's alright and the gaffer's sound. I love it here, but don't get going up the town, he'll do his nut. DB: f**k! |
MattBB
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... An emerging rumour around Villa Park seems to be that Joey Barton was seen in and around the football club - i really hope this is a made up reumour!!!!! |
ak_27
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... Don't know if a CM pairing of Young and Petrov would work. Not sure if Young would be enough of a presense in there. Might work in a 5 man mid with Young in the hole but that means leaving 3 out of Carew, Gabby, Heskey and Delfoeneso plus any additional strikers if we do sign one. But at least this would thankfully give MON options. Thats if the deal goes through. I still think we need another CM to come in. |
Matt T
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... Owen will take Newcastle for the extra month so I agree with Badger - probably not going to happen till the end of the month. Pretty much guarantee that no matter what wages he gets offered by whoever buys him, it's gonna be less than the £125k a week he was getting at the Toon, so why would he deliberately lose money... and don't say out of respect - at the end of the day if the contract was stupid enough to have that in it, then who can blame him. Anybody on here would do if it was their job... |
ak_27
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... Badger have you seen Owens brouchure? Shocking. A bad sign if that is what you have to resort to get clubs interested i you. |
Matt T
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... Ak_27 - sorry yes I meant that would probably be as a 4-5-1 with Milner, Young, AN Other, Petrov and Bentley. Young would work well in the hole I imagine too. Just leaves more reliance on pace down the wings to play the counter attacking 4-5-1/4-3-3 strategy we used last year when Carew was out. Question is - are Milner and Bentley fast enough for that setup? |
Zorro
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... Badger and Matt T - Whaaaeey... look at the pair of you quickly identifying that you are indeed the nobs I am referring to on this site - thanks for that guys - accepted Randy Lerner is not the owner 100% of MBNA but with a vested financial interest remaining within the company and a family history built upon solid financial institutions........ 'I agree that he would still throw his personal fortune at a project without a guaranteed return' - 'I will also completely ignore financial affairs at villa park for the last 3 years' and finally 'I will accuse any name I dont recognise on this site of supporting Blues if they tell the truth' You should never judge a book by its cover - any more insults from you two 'I get to a couple of away games a season' so called fans - I will publically expose you - trust me. |
Simeon
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... sidcowanslovechild, you would bring shame on that great name with that username if it weren't for you and your non-opinions being devoid of significance. If indeed it transpires that Marty has been sharing a stage with the mighty blur, then I will consider kissing his ass. But if, as is unfortunately more likely, he is in negotiations to bring in more non-talent to our great club, then his arse is more likely to get a kicking. |
yahoodyhoo
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... o'neil is lost in a sea of £5 notes. where his contemporaries dish monkeys for fun, the only thing that is going to happen at av is a 3 average players at the death for peanuts. the quicker you all realise this, the quicker we can start being depressed again - and enjoy it! |
TrueVillan
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... matt t Pretty much guarantee that no matter what wages he gets offered by whoever buys him, it's gonna be less than the £125k a week he was getting at the Toon, so why would he deliberately lose money. if he joins a new club who pay him say £50,0000, then newcastle have to make up the shortfall of his wage with them for one month. so he sign for who he likes now and wont lose a penny |
Steve Badger
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... AK-27, Badger have you seen Owens brouchure? Shocking. I actually thought it was "different", in that with this money-oriented game it has become, it'll probably become the norm. I don't want the bloke, tbh. I can't see the need, as the problem is not scoring goals, it's stopping them going in, imo. |
Steve Badger
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... Zorro, Badger and Matt T - What the f**k are you on about? I've supported (as in been to games home and away) Villa on and off for 40 years mate. Expose away. And if you're not a nose, you f**king ought to be because you know NOTHING about football, I can assure you. |
Daniel Wilson
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... Sorry , had to say something after reading any more insults from you two 'I get to a couple of away games a season' so called fans - I will publically expose you - trust me. I don't think you can judge anyone on how many games they go to a season, some people don't have the cash to get to lots of games, don't live near the ground or work on match days. It doesn't mean they support the club any less. I live an hour and a half away from Birmingham, have a yearly income that could never support lots of match trips and work Saturday and Sunday every week without fail but I tell you what, it doesn't make my love or support of the club any less than any person on this site. Sorry, but I get wound up when I hear rubbish like that. /rant |
Halfwit
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... Wesley Sneijder = The Perfect Replacement For Money Bag's Barry Van Der Varrt = Perfect All Rounder Really Bentley = I Dont Know We Have Milner Allready & And He Wont Take Young's Place Get Them Three And Thats A Good Start But We Would Still Need More In Defence |
Zorro
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... Badger Badger... oh dear oh dear I havent even mentioned the game of football within my posts and you have instantly claimed that 'I know nothing about football'? - unfortunately my friend to the supporters I make reference to that are reading this - you have just been exposed - sorry. |
Steve Badger
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... Truevillan, if he joins a new club who pay him say £50,0000, then newcastle have to make up the shortfall of his wage with them for one month. God, get your facts right mate. If he is out of work, Newcastle have to pay him. If he signs for anyone, they don't. |
Dan Price
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... from what i read, newcastle do have to pay the difference if he isnt paid £108k+ |
Steve Badger
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... Zorro, it's the last time I'll answer you, because you're either a nose or just a total penis mate. I havent even mentioned the game of football within my posts and you have instantly claimed that 'I know nothing about football'? - unfortunately my friend to the supporters I make reference to that are reading this - you have just been exposed - sorry. So why come on here gobbing off? Badger Badger... oh dear oh dear Do you realise how much of a cock that makes you sound? Like I said expose away mate, you obviously know all about me |
stan
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... your like lieutenant columbo damo at least your getting hits on your blog just leave people to have a laugh and stop being so touchy the lad was only making a joke about the crystal maze.youre acting as if he said you support blackburn or your from sweden.ha ha ha |
Zorro
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... Badger - lets agree to be friends please as we all share a common goal and that is AVFC - there is no need to swear by the way when my children have open access to this site. As for what I know about you... well from what you have said you are close to 50 years of age, have a pen pal in MattT who I assume has gone to bed being a school night and you are sending messages to a complete stranger called Zorro at 12:30am.. - should that actually read Backward instead of Badger? UTV I have a feeling the first signing will happen today so fingers crossed |
irishvillain100
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... Think the Tuncay link is a solid one but is he gonna be another alpay? We definitely do not need that!! |
Carl Main
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... Zorro Your doing the exact same thing in sending messages to a complete stranger you tool. Thats pretty much how a blog works. Good banter by the way with your boring RL business affairs. He has already came out and stated that funds are available. |
imran
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... villa fans villa fans villa fans arent you all great you should support a great club like me LIVERPOOL FC 4EVA. |
Matt T
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...well from what you have said you are close to 50 years of age, have a pen pal in MattT who I assume has gone to bed being a school night and you are sending messages to a complete stranger called Zorro at 12:30am.. - should that actually read Backward instead of Badger? UTV No - just had other things to do than just sit here and moan at people to be honest. Claiming that someone is asleep early is a tad childish don't you think? So the equation is you are more of a Villa fan if you are about late at night? God forbid anyone here might actually have a day job to do but no, seems more like it's perfectly ok to say you'll "expose me". Well sunshine you don't know anything about me do you? Interesting in general how you think you'd "expose me" - as what? Born and raised in Aston, a season ticket holder and Villa fan of 30 years? Terrible that. Terrible case of double standards too - all I did was mention that a) MBNA as a whole was sold to Bank of America and b) that they have £2.2bn worth of stock but are not involved with the direction of it anymore. You start on two guys who you know nothing about, all because we both said that Lerner had sold his stock, and instead decide to start the "Aren't you in bed" logic. You'd think at 30 years old I would be able to know when I can go to bed or not, and to actually have things to do... Read some of your comments back - who is sounding like the idiot here really? Perhaps I should stop posting because I actually pointed out what was a fact, i.e. that Lerner sold MBNA? Fact of the matter is if you want to resort to calling people names and acting like a fool because they show what you're saying to be a stack of nonsense, you'll be the one banned matey, not me. |
Matt T
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... In the meantime I hope we sign the 6 or 7 players we need at some point before the window shuts. As for all the rest of the nonsense, nothing more to say about it really. Calling people names does not equate to winning an argument really does it? So you stick with your rants, I'll stick with just getting on with supporting Villa rather than playing the part of being uppity and claiming you're more Villa than either me or Badger. I don't know either of you but we are both (supposed to be) supporters of the same club, so how's about we get back to making some constructive comments about it rather than to and fro regarding who is what hey? |
Matt T
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... PS Danwilson82 - thanks for talking some sense... Evidently we're all plastics if we don't go to every home and away game... If that's the logic, Villa must have what... about 3000 fans probably, if that? |
Matt T
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... Oh and when I lived in Chester and didn't have a season ticket I must have stopped being a Villa fan too... |
Fitzy_7
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... i know its late but f**k me this sums up tribal football in a nutshell http://www.tribalfootball.com/aston-villa’s-ashton-could-still-end-stoke-254246 |
Simon1
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... on the villa kit. no need to get so excited. Just for your info. The home kit is hardly any different to last year. It is the same, just the collars are a bit different. It has a different colour on it, but I forget what it is. Maybe black or blue. Also the lettering is different on the back of the shirt, but thats about it. |
Chinavillan
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... I was born and bred next to the Villa ground in Manor Road,and have not been to a Villa match for the last six years,because I now live in China,and can only listen to matches on the Clubsite console!....Does that make me less of a fan than some of these morons?...I am 66 years old,and have supported Villa man and child. UTV. |
PENSIONER
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... [quoteOh and when I lived in Chester and didn't have a season ticket I must have stopped being a Villa fan too... quote] Wow!! It works!.....See you guys later...Got to collect my pension. UTV. |
Martin Clabon
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... Simeon, I an not agree with your position. That I am not worthy of the name is undoubted but I do not bring shame on it. Try looking at your own posts, criticising MON like you do is the act of a spoilt child. Sort your life out |
Simeon
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... Sid, if you can't see that the criticisms I have of Marty are entirely valid, then there is really no point acknowledging you. And to suggest that my posts are those of a spoilt child is simply ridiculous - the kind of insult that is the last resort of a man (or boy) incapable of thinking in a rational manner, perhaps because he is in denial that the club he loves is being led down the toilet by the exact same man he believed would lead it into the light. And perhaps instead of stooping to personal insults, you might aspire to properly engage with my points and offer reasons as to exactly why you can't agree. Of course, I'm perfectly happy to accept that you can't agree with my position because you are incapable of that kind of insight (not that I believe it takes a genius to recognise the bumbling ineptitude of the object of your faith). Perhaps when you have something worthwhile to say you'll get more from me than the condescending, patronising response that this, I'll happily acknowledge, is. |
Martin Clabon
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... Simeon, pleased you are still on this post so we can continue this. I will take a more restrained approach as perhaps the heat is making me grumpy: - MON is not perfect and I would not suggest he was - Criticism is one thing but the level of abuse he gets in my opinion is ridiculous and well over the top (admittedly not all from you!) - I can not understand why people do not think MON has been moderately successful. He came in to a struggling club with a poor squad and has brought us up to 6th 2 years in a row. We have not done that for some time and when we did it was before the top 4 was so dominant so effectively we have been 2nd of the rest (and unlucky not to be best of the rest) - I worry if we lose MON we will get some no hoper Joe Kinnear type manager and end up fighting relegation (of course could go the other way but where's the evidence) - I firmly believe that constant criticism of the club creates a negative atmosphere, drives people away and hampers progress - Most non Villa fans think we are crazy (doing a Spurs/ Newcastle)by moaning about where we are. - We have not been successful for a long time and there is nothing that has changed to make us believe we have any right to success, there are I would guess 8 or 9 clubs with as much or more money than us - I believe MON is very well qualified for the job, I don't believe you are (or me or anyone else on the site)and hence criticism which indicates he is thick or whatever (Baldrick etc) is in my opinion real crap which loses credibilty of the poster for any other comments which may be reasonable - It is right to dream and expect better of our club but that does not automatically mean the current manager is doing a rubbish job - The point about "if you can't see my points are entirely valid it is not worth acknowledging you" is a bit arrogant saying your points are obviously correct (they are not the are opinions) and if I don't agree with you I am not worth communicating with - As to the reference to spoiled child, this is how it feels "we were doing well and that nasty MON fckd it up for me so I'm cross" - For a football site your prose are a little flowery and to be honest this is a bit of a wind up - If only I were a boy, thanks Look, we disagree but hopefully we are both big Villa fans and so can over come our difficulty? If you think about the impact of what you say on the atmosphere around the club when posting (plus impact of criticism is greater if mixed up with positive stuff)then I will avoid making personal comments. I realise the whole style of writing thing is personal and none of my business but I honestly think being a bit more direct would pay off in terms of the audience. Call it dumbing down if you like but this is football after all not polo Happy to take on board any further feedback you might have! I am not taking the piss by the way, willing to change if you are. |
TrueVillan
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... badger God, get your facts right mate. If he is out of work, Newcastle have to pay him. If he signs for anyone, they don't. get yours right badger, they do! |
Martin Clabon
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... Truevillan and Badger, I believe if Owen signs for less than £108K a week Newcastle have to pay the balance for another month - which I think makes TrueVillan right on this occasion? |
Simeon
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... Dear Sid, I was hoping to explain briefly why Marty is not up to the job. Unfortunately, it's not proved possible to do so briefly. As a result, I'm going to look as favourably as I possibly can on the guy and say that he has done a decent job in three seasons of steadying the ship and laying some foundations upon which a side might be built that could emerge in a couple of seasons and be capable of finishing in the top 6. It's the old 'he's taken us as far as he can routine', I'm afraid, and we're not going to make any further progress udner him. I firmly believe that his transfer record and his lack of tactical nous both speak for themselves. Yes, we've finished sixth twice in a row, but name one good side we've finished above in either of those two seasons. Yes we've finished above the likes of Man City, Spurs and Newcastle, but aren't these clubs that we, as Villa fans, see as laughing stocks? We've finished above the likes of West Ham and Blackburn, but neither side has been what one could call a good side in at least a decade. So what does sixth actually mean? It means we're not as good as Everton, and it means we're certainly nowhere near as good as the top 4. Last season showed that we will never compete with the top 4, rather than showing that we can, and the reason is simple. We had everything in our favour last season, and Arsenal, the team who finished 4th, had everything against them. We had the best opportunity we'll ever have to finish fourth, and Marty blew it by failing to have the squad in place to cope with a full season. Even now I'm going on for too long. It seems that you're already well aware of my opinions, which at various times I have explained at great length, and you simply disagree. I think you're wrong, and you think I'm wrong, and I don't think there's much chance of that changing, unless of course something remarkable happens and we either do really badly or really well next season (and in my view, really well would be finishing no more than a dozen points behind the top 4). All I want to do is get the summer over with and see how we do next season. As you may appreciate, I have little confidence in us under Marty. Football in general is going to the dogs, and there's a big part of me that wishes I could wash my hands of the whole business (because football IS a business), and give my time to something more deserving. But I'm a Villa fan, and as such I can't just not support them. I'm resigned to the prospect of nothing exciting happenning at Villa for a good few years yet, given the way football is, and the way we are boradly run (which, by the way, I admire). But despite my resignation, I do feel compelled from time to time to throw the odd comment out there. Obviously, I don't think the points I make are controversial, though some clearly disagree. I would hope that the manner in which I make these comments brings a little levity to proceedings also. By mentioning Baldrick, I'm simply trying to lighten the mood a little, and my comparing Marty to Phil Daniels was similarly playful. I take the attidue that you've gotta laugh or you'll cry. I apologise if my lack of seriousness is offensive in any way. Thankyou for responding to my previous post in a mature fashion. I hope that we can in future agree to disagree, and that you'll accept my posts in the spirit in which they're intended. UTV |
Martin Clabon
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... Simeon, I only disagree mildly with the post. I think MON has done a bit better than your assessment, but not brilliantly, but it is a tough league. As I said criticism is fine it is the assumption MON is an idiot, that people on the site could do a better job, and more than anything constant criticism and negativity which I take exception to. If we sign a strong Centre Half, Bentley, Naughton, Defour, Veloso (spelling?) and Berg - which is not impossible but maybe unlikely we can have a good season. However a good season is finishing below the traditional top 4 and Man City and battling with Everton and Spurs for 6th. So realistically even with good signings 6th to 8th is a good par. Anything better is over avhievement. We should dream of over achieving but should not be suprised or slag MON etc if we do not (can criticise for other things but it would bot be under achievement) Would love to see a positive post from you at some point to counterpoint the rest and give credibitlity/ take sting out of any of your detractors Good luck |
Simeon
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... Some positives: We have some good young players in Young, Agbonlahor, Milner and Davies. Delfouneso is, in my view, a fantastic talent, and really could be a top Premiership striker, and not just England's number one striker. Off the pitch, the club seems to be run both efficiently, progressively, and conscientiously. Even if Lerner isn't the sugar daddy most of us I'm sure (at least secretly) would like, he does seem to have sufficient business acumen to at least help us maximise revenue streams (if one overlooks the shirt sponsor scenario - and why not give the benefit of the doubt on this, because supporting a charity for terminally ill children is a fantastic thing). We seem to have a sensational academy, and so there is hope that at some point in the future, the strong infrastructure we have in place, and are putting in place, will allow a manager to reap the rewards. Oh, and objectively speaking, Marty's post-match interviews can be amusing. |
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