Somebody needs to tell Alex McLeish that actions speak louder than words. Maybe he should speak to General Krulak - the PR wizard. What ever happened to that Aston Villa fan, that felt our pain and shared our passion?
The reason I write this is because McLeish seem to be saying an awful lot at the moment and it is all just PR and it really does wind me up that he lives in this deluded world where he believes this or he is lying to us.
I just wish Randy Lerner would do what he has to do and get rid of him because he honestly cant believe all this rubbish he is coming out with. Although now I've written that, he probably can, because he knows nothing about football.
So the attention must then turn to the CEO. If the owner doesn't know what he is doing, you'd have to hope he has hired someone that does - but if the CEO of Aston Villa actually poached the manager of a relegated side that happened to be your local rival - you've got to start questioning if that is the CEO does know what he is doing.
The protest is embarrassing. We got an email about putting something up on the site about it but I didn't, for a few reasons - we don't whore the site out for any content, we don't copy and paste and we like to think opinions are formed and it isn't just a site for any old garbage - there are plenty of blogs for that.
But, if there is going to be a protest, then I hope it gets thousands. I know it wont, but seeing as it is promoted, you just have to hope that the numbers turn up.
So, with a sort of protest happening - you can't argue it hasn't had enough coverage, we should turn our attention to Manchester City, the visiting side.
They are top of the table (as I write) and I have little doubt that they will be after the match tomorrow. They have spent millions upon millions on some of the best players money can buy and it is working.
I think maybe one of them is a Manchester City player - the others are just playing for the money, but can you blame them and there is nothing wrong with it and we would all swap Randy Lerner tomorrow for a proper billionaire playboy.
Hell, we'd all swap our muppet of a manager for a proper billionaire playboy. Football tomorrow, updates and all that from early in the morning. Odds below and your prediction in the comments appreciated.

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... Villa by Birth i deleted the duplicate entries |
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... Damo I just tweeted you about that, my posts went to the administrator for some reason |
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... The protest will not be embarrassing, regardless of how many turn up, it has already got the clubs attention and shown them a significant number of fans are fed up with the current situation at the club. The stage has been set, its now up to the fans if they want to act |
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... I have no problem with the protest, provided that the fans state there reason in a mature way and demonstarte peacefully. It does not require thousands of people to make a point but it wolud be nice. I think a must better protest would be not to turn up. |
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... Your right about the protests - they are going to be embarrassing. I can see why it's being organised but just can't believe that anything will come of it. I think we all need to realise that the manager will be here for a while yet. Do you really think Lerner & co give a toss what we think? The only way we could possibly make them listen is to boycott the games but there will be 35000 there tomorrow so the owners are happy - in fact once the protesters have had their say they will all walk in the ground and take up their seats! That's why it's laughable and completely pointless. |
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... If people keep suggesting the protest will be embarrassing then it probably will. Was it Blackburn who emptied the stadium in protest for a few weeks, leaving 2 fans to hold a banner up. Did their fans promote the protest as "small", "divided" "a potential embarrassment"? No, they suggested fans that went to the ground were "an embarrassment". Why don't you try a headline of: The Protest Will Be a Success and maybe people who are on the fence might join in. All the club have done is tactically divide the fans. Its up to us fans to unite. If you won't protest against McCleish then grow some b******s and stand there in support of him. If you can't stand on either protest then you can f**k off calling yourself a fan. So I propose the following for Sunday. Anti Mcleish take the stairs on the left of the Holte Pro Mcleish take the stairs on the right. Not sure where you stand, well try and get into the Citeh end of the ground. |
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... Laughable that we care? And we are sick of watching this rubbish week after week, or that we expect a little better than 6 wins in 6 months? The only laughable thing is that it has taken this long for a protest |
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... I'm going to the protest tomorrow, but I definitely wont be going inside Villa Park. Randy will not get a single penny more from me. Everyone seems to want things to change, but there's far too many that seem unwilling to even try and do anything about it. Such a poor attitude to say "they wont listen" and so there's no point. If suddenly tomorrow petrol goes up to £3 a litre shall we all just say nothing because they wont listen and we can't change it?? It doesn't matter if the protest doesn't force a decision, it's showing the feelings of the supporters and that's all that matters. If tomorrow you go to the ground and don't go in you're a supporter, the second you enter the ground you become a customer. |
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... So is the protest about the manager, CEO, owner or all 3? IMO protests are fine as long as there's a unified message from fans... If I had a bed sheet and some paint my banner would have Fcukners name on it... |
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... Spon on xandeh, The protest is fully justified, we have been very poor this season and McLeish is not getting the best out of the squad at his disposal. Players are not playing for him and they dont believe in his methods. If McLeish sees out his contract, Aston Villa will end up relegated. The club is to divided from top to bottom |
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... You'll wish we all protested when we end up travelling to Peterborough in the NPower Championship next season! |
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... Not going,which is a shame,because years ago playing top of the league guaranteed a full house,whoever they were.Sad state of affairs at the moment with our club and football in general.Love the sport,love the craic,can't be arsed. |
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... @McLeish Out But that's NOT McLeish's fault... He doesn't know how to get the best out of the team. Should PF suddenly see sense and give MClueless his P45, do you really trust him to get the appointment right next time? I don't... Hence why i genuinely believe Faulkner must go first... |
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... Have herd that the fans who protest are all going to have a game of there own over on Aston park while the villa game is on so take your trainers for a 500 a side game should be fun hope the sky pick us up |
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... Where is the William McGregor statue? Only kidding ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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... Mcleish out. Are you charles n'zogbia in disguise? |
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... At what point will you accept that most players are now joining and playing for City for more than just the money and have been since about 12 months or so after the takeover once it became clear we were on the up? Obviously the money is a factor, just as it is when players join Villa (although maybe in your little dream world you think Bent joined you for the love of the club). I am guessing if Villa and City had offered the same contract to say Samir Nasri (who the know nowts see as being the ultimate mercenary, after all how dare he want to leave a club on a clear downward trajectory and join one who look like competing for the title), he'd have chosen City. What do you reckon? |
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... The Protest Is a Must And It's Needed Every one on here whose familiar with me knows my views on McLeish/McClueless from day one and nothing has changed. The man is arrogant and being paid handsomely to feed us garbage and drive the club down the drain. Those who feel sorry for him are simply deluded whichever way this ends he will be the last man laughing at his bank. His Flaws His quick to blame everyone else especially the youngsters but himself as you have all also witnessed this season. And that my fellow Villans is a trait of a man who will never change his way. McLeish is slowly and gradually lowering our clubs expectations and yes the board are allowing him to do it its that simple. One thing i have learned since being a fan of football is the manager has a big part to play in a club's ambition and performance. McLeish/McClueless was never the right man for our club his lack of ambition and is non existent football philosophy proved to all those with half a football brain through out his career so far. His poor management skills and tactical ability at this level playing for a draw and 1 win in 4 ratio will get our club relegated. Proofs In The McLueless Pudding And The Media/Internet Proof of his lack of managerial abilities is on the pitch and the blues two relegations under him now their flying under Chris Hughton scoring goals for fun. Proof of his lack of ambition for our club dates back earlier in the season when Paul Faulkner challenged him to finish in a European spot and McAmbitionless was quick to play down those expectations saying maybe in a few years its all well documented. Support The Protest If You Love The Club It's hard for some people to grasp the fact that there always come a time when fans have to make a stand before its too late in the name of their beloved club. And that time is now reason why am personally as a villan proud of those who have gone out their way to make a stand and organize the protest. Sir Alex said earlier this week in the awake of Capello's resignation as England manager that the most important man at the club is the manager and i proud to say i disagree with the man. In my opinion the most the most important is us the fans we make the club and have every right to voice our opinion and displeasure when its needed. I can understand Its hard for some who do not understand the passions of being a fan and the history of fans Vs manager/Club through out footballs history. One thing remains the same and no one can argue with there is no club with out the fans. No players will play week in week out to empty stadiums. I fully support the protest as a villa fan and i for one will be proud of all villans who are willing to stand up for our club. Its needed and any one who is against the protest is most likely club PR or sheep. The likes for Stan Collymore have no real love for Villa their public mouth pieces that sound paid off. The man has no passion for Villa thats why he can so easily accept whats going on same for Kendrick both should be ashamed of themselves to call themselves supporters. We could end up in the championship even lower and those two sheep will say the same things. Two Forms Of Protest 1) Is staying away until the club hierarchy recognizes us fans and fulfills its own customer charter of fan involvement and communication. 2) The physical protest like that being organized by www.mcleishout.co.uk i for one fully support it and proud of those guys good to know there still villans full of passion for our club out there. We have always protested as fans check our history do not be left behind when it matters most like now choose your form of protest and show your love for Villa. McLeish and the club Hierarchy need to remember Villa still belongs to the fans otherwise dark times ahead like Damian has so nicely and pessimistically put it in the past but now that fiction is slowly becoming a fact under current circumstances under this manager. |
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... I have not understood Damian's blog today: "the protest is going to be embarrasing" - why? are you embarassed because someone is protesting, or that the protest will not somehow be "good" enough? Anyway, I hope the protestors have maybe learnt somthing from the intelligence of the "occupy" movement: no violence or yobbish stuff. |
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... Mcleish out, It's laughable because it's all being done for nothing - your wasting your time. As I said previously the owners don't give a toss what you or I think - if they did they would never have appointed him in the summer when the fans showed up at Villa Park to voice their anger. They didn't care then and they don't care now. |
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... I don't get it for you're middle of the table and having a blip, ffs your selling a good player when he peaks and bringing in a replacement every 5 minutes. It is pathetic and embarrassing that you're whipping Mcleish, to prove how pathetic and embarrassing you all are I suggest you get relegated just to show you how pathetic and embarrassing you are and give you the bigger picture. Do you know what its lie to go from Premier League club to Third Div, when do you see us whining like little babies and what happened to supporting you team ffs. Get a grip! |
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... ordinaryjoe it is all in what you quoted 'is' going to be embarrassing how many are going to turn up? what are they then going to do? the issue isn't with the manager. read the post. the issue is with the owner. the issue is with the CEO protesting against a manager is pointless |
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... it is also very embarrassing that it has come to this |
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... Jimbo, it's just a case of numbers. Damian I can't understand how you can want rid of AMC and want change for the club, yet more or less write a protest off and offer it little or no support. You have the ability with this blog to reach and influence thousands of supports, you have an obligation as its writer and as a supporter to do what's best for the club. Even if you personally aren't for a protest you should still put something up for those of us who are. The more pages like this pledge their support, the more supporters out there will be reached, the more the media will pick up on things and thus the more pressure we put on AMC and the board. So many of you can't keep sitting on the fence when you make the comments you do. If you want change you have to fight for it. Our money is so important especially at the moment and anyone who's not a season ticket holder and goes tomorrow is a part of the problem not the solution. Do yourselves a favour and watch it in the pub! |
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... Villa streams!! Is it just me or is villa streams not loading for anyone anymore?? Since lase week cant seem to load it, have paid up membership anyone know? |
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... The point is, there are very few (seemingly) that actually go to VP at the best of times......so it is very easy to be a keyboard warrior and not get off your arse and do something. Very easy to say Eck out, but what are people doing about it besides write endless, repetitive posts on blogs..... |
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... JIMBODAVENTRYVILLA Wholeheartedly agree. If the owner gave a monkeys what the fans thought Mcleish would never have been appointed in the first place. As Ive said before get rid of Mcleish and what happens next. Do you honestly believe that LERNER is going to attract a good manager with the package he will offer, no money,slash the wage bill,sell players if we get a reasonable offer. The real rot is at the top of this club. The only way to survive in the PL is to invest, LERNER is clearly not going to do that. McLeishs only real crime is that he thought that the substandard players at this club were better than they really are. We struggled under Houllier, weve struggled under McLeish. The next incumbant will suffer the same fate. Protest by all means but do it against LERNER and give the manager and the team all the backing you can give... |
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... you lot should be ashamed of your selves. Supporting a team is like a marriage, you have good times and you have bad and no matter what you stick by it through thick and thin. If you wanna protest, fine thats your choice but all your doing is divorcing yourself from the club. The thought of me doing this against the club i love makes me feel sick and wouldn't dream of it. Yes i might not be happy but i show this frustration at home and when i am at the game i support the team no matter what and you all should do the same. I would guess most of you are 1 ticket wonders. Ask your self, if you are a true villa fan what do the players and the management need from us fans to help them, Support - to know that if they succeed or fail we are with them all the way. if you dont agree with this then im sorry your not a true Villa fan. if your child was on the pitch would you be doing the same? i guess not. It's sad to think that it has come to this but i guess most people that call villa fans f****e are kind of right when it comes to you lot. Rant over UTV - VILLA TILL I DIE. |
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... Mcleish OUT!!!!!!!!! GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT YOU t**t!!!!!! |
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... - If we can just hang on until Fergie retires, he will obviously recommend that Mcleish succeeds him at Man Utd. |
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... Armchairuk on your comment 30 judging from your analogy you obviously the submissive type whose happy being any ones door mat. Let me repeat this because i doubt you understand villa fans through out our club history HAVE PROTESTED they made our club what we are reason why we are still here. Submissives like yourselves will ever grasp that, that's if you are not McLeish PR or close relative. So its ridiculous for you to play that card when you clearly a door mat fan if you are even trully a fan. |
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... CiTyBlUe I seem to recall going to games when villa were in the old third division, we even won the division title to come back up. Do you remember life before your millions, a second rate team in a third rate city constantly looking up to Man ure. We were formed before you, have won more title s cup and trpohies including europe. We are entitled to moan baout our own club when we are unhappy with the way it is being directed. I suggest that you keep you coments to your self until such time as you have the same proud heritage as Aston Villa, perhaps you life will be complete when you have finally won anothe title - or will you always be in the wake of Man utd. Please enjoy your own blog and leave us to our own misery. BTW we will be back |
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... Villa streams is F@#ked! Is everyone having a problem loading villa streams?? |
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... villopian tube We do not have to wait that long he can always take him on as his number two to succeed him after. |
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... Cant really see the protests affecting anything really. it will make AM realize hes not liked and that he has to start f**king doing something or else it will start getting even worse for him. it would be nice if he walked after a 7-0 thrashing to city tomorrow which i kind of hope happens. The board would start thinking then. protests before the game, an embarrassing defeat, maybe he has to go |
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... Well said Villa by Birth your comment 34. We could very well be in 15th place by the end of this weekend if both West Brom and Fulham win. We slowly being dragged into a relegation scrap and before you know it you wake up the next day and we in the championship that's the McLeish effect. The man is a relegation specialist he does it effectively and this is the exact same thing that happened to the blues before they found themselves in the championship. Relegate them while keeping the sheep among them hopes alive so before they realize where their clubs heading its too late they already there. |
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... Frem double figures should just about do it I reccon, with the ground half empty by 50 minutes ![]() ![]() |
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... just a thought, in appointing mcdoughnut as manager randy has dropped the gates by five thousand.therefore his proposed rebuild of the north stand is no longer needed,saving fourty million quid. on the matter of protesting just dont go to villa until this lot have gone. i am amazed that the modern villa fans have dropped our level of expectancy to that of the blues. newcastle have progressed even after selling their best players. why cant we. yes we cannot compete with the best,but we are far better than we are showing under this totally useless prat. houllier sussed this squad out and had he not been ill,would have turned it round.dont forget he didnt take over until after ten games last year,by then we were struggling under macdonald another man not big or good enough to manage our club. oh well thats got that of my chest,im going for a pint now cheers lads. |
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... Shane Villains Thanks I was so angry I left the typos in for effect better than capitals. Do you think city fans order Lobster sandwich's now!! |
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... i dont think its a case of Mclueless being thick-skinned i just think hes got no shame! Id be embarassed to show up for the post match interviews with some of the decisions and the way weve played this season.Although its horrible to say i agree with albri-12 a nice 7/8 nil loss along with the protest and sky being all over it might just be enough to make our idiot board stand up and get rid of the muppet.I see hes dropped Warnock again,i suppose this will appease the sheep! |
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... Last week it was Toon fans this week it's Citeh... Is this the new form of Hooliganism?? Do opposing fans just wake up in the morning, look at the fixture list then say "Right we're playing Villa today, where's my Fan site spreadsheet I need to go pick a fight" I can't recall that happening when we were in the European places a few seasons ago... Do opposing fans just grow bigger balls over night? What makes them think they can come and slate us on our own site? Villa By Birth said to CiTyBlUe: Do you remember life before your millions, a second rate team in a third rate city constantly looking up to Man ure.So true Let's give these Arabian c**ksuckers hell... |
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... I predict a total embarrassment tomorrow. Aguero = 2 goals Silva = 1 goal Warnock = 1 own goal (probably header and own goal of the season) Hutton = 1 penalty giveaway and a red card to boot I guess that's 5 and that's enough to make AMC happy, as his 10-point-plan for tomorrow is already in Mancini's hands: 1. We shall defend for 94 minutes - all hands on deck except for Bent who will place himself on the opponent's penalty spot for the entire game; 2. Park the Lerner-Cleveland bus early; 3. Play Heskey in the midfield and replace him with Gardner on the 86th minute; 4. Put Clark in midfield out of position, and replace him with Bannan on the 88th minuted; 5. Right midfield for Ireland again and replace him with Nzogbia at half-time; 6. Reward the greatest left-back who has ever played the game Mr. Warnock with his usual position. Provide him with a gallon of KY to lube himself up for the sliding tackle Premiership record; 7. Pair Collins (Laurel) in the middle with his favourite lunging partner Dunne (Hardy) and leave Cuellar on the bench; 8. Start super right-back Hutton and tell him to pound on the unsuspecting Dzeko in the first 5 minutes and break his leg. Red card will be rewarded with a bonus tattoo next week; 9. Defend some more, retreat into our own net if necessary and pull Silva's pants off if possible; 10. Finally, after 5 goals, run off the field into the Holte End and fly the white flag of surrender. Oh, and call Capello collect! Our only saving grace is that Yaya Toure is still in Africa and Balotelli is still suspended, or else it could be 10 goals tomorrow! My condolences to Shay Given as he will be busy tomorrow. Enjoy your weekend everyone and UTV. |
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... marc4villa (post 44) talk about doom and gloom!! if the toon fan had written all that you would be slagging him off for invading our blog page! |
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... The stage has been set, all you need to do is be there and lets GET HIM OUT |
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... Just listened to the panel on Sky and they insist Mc Cleish is a good manager and say we are only upset because he managed Small Heath! Why do the media not understand that it is the 2 relegations, negative football, insistence on playing the poorest back four I have ever seen at VP, his faith in Heskey, the signing of Hutton and the realistic propspect of swapping divisions with his former club that is really upsetting us! |
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... McLeish Out thats the thing - unless there is a huge number and i mean massive, 3 or 4 times the number that marched for Ellis to go, it isn't going to happen and I'd be very surprised actually if it happened with even those numbers so the stage is set. but it isn't set for the manager getting sacked. especially when the cast majority that do turn up for this banner waving then enter Villa Park |
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... So Sky Sports if McLeish is such a good manager, why did he get relegated twice and come 3rd with Rangers? More importantly why is he doing so bad at Villa? |
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... Its so obvious that people inside villa have told players to say good things about AM. Petrov last week, Given a few days ago and now Dunne. Its desperation from the club Dunne: McLeish is the man to take Villa forward Nope hes not He talks to every player and wants their feedback to see what we can do to improve things and make things better This made me chuckle. Time and time again our defence has been crap and apparently they talk to each other and out it right ?? |
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... it does sound like the players are being forced to say they support mcw**k a lot this past week. we villa fans are not idiots. we know this is desperation pr at its worst. its more sad than laughable, really. im losing my last ounce of respect for the current incarnation of my mighty villa |
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... I wish the protesters well (can't be there myself) but expect it to be in vain, however many turn up. McLeish's PL record is rubbish, and he seems to have really got the skids under the Villa at the moment, with the team playing dire, truly technically inept football for the most part this season. Notwithstanding, Lerner and his chief sycophant Faulkner chose this muppet in spite of all the fan unrest and warnings about the consequences, and have indicated that they intend to stick with him, in effect sticking two fingers up to the rest of us. It can be argued, of course, that from Lerner's point of view, McClueless is actually doing a good job; he's working with virtually no money, and taking much of the flack that might otherwise be directed at Lerner himself. If McClueless succeeds in keeping Villa up this season (an increasingly questionable outcome) Lerner will be happy; if we go down, Lerner's got a handy fall guy to point the finger at if he chooses. Imho, Lerner will not pull the trigger on McLeish. The only way we'll see the back of McLeish is if it all gets too hot for him to handle, and he walks. I don't blame McLeish for taking the job when offered; I bet we'd all have done the same in his place. The blame for our current shambles lies at the top, with Lerner, Faulkner and the board, whose ineptitude and mediocrity are taking the club down like the Titanic. I hope that it's against these z-listers that the protesters will vent their wrath. |
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... Right now were 14th! Thats SH*T! McLeish OUT! QIA IN! |
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... 14th and falling. McLeish must go now. Make a stand |
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... davidg- Have thought for a while AMc was appointed as a handy whipping boy to deflect all the anger away from Lerner! |
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... david g spot on... I've been saying for a while that Faulkner must go first and then Mcleish... The main objective is to prevent this farce of an appointment happening again... I'd implore any would be protesters to use their head and focus some of their anger towards the people running the club as it's clear as day that they "don't know what they're doing" |
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... The scores aren't going our way right now MClueless, do you sense a hint of deja vu? Imagine a record of being relegated in 3 of the last 4 seasons Do the decent thing and fall on your sword... |
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... Damian Are you embarressed by the protest itself or the probable lack of numbers ? If thousands do turn up for the protest will it still be Embarressing ? Surely by saying you hope thousands do turn up you should be getting behind it ? UTV |
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... MON for England!!! Saves us the embarrassment of Sunderland becoming a top 6 team in our stead... |
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... I know a couple of blues noses & they didn't want him when he was there & now they are just laughing at us & saying we are going down with wolves but you can't argue coz we all no its true if things carry on we will be down. |
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... Villa are in a relegation battle with a relegation specialist in charge? Time to worry? You bet |
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... McLeish Out Villa are in a relegation battle with a relegation specialist in charge?Aston Villa are not in a relegation battle. There are more than 3 worse teams in the league. Can you not see this? |
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... Just had a thought that AVB could be the next managerial casualty... Roman is not the most patient of managers and his old mate Hiddink is a free agent... Anyone up for a game of managerial merry go round? AVB could be looking for a new club soon... |
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... We shouldnt be in 1, there are 10 worse teams than us. But 7 points above the drop zone, with only 6wins suggests we ARE in one |
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... We are now 7 points from relegation, with a tough fixture list to come. some may say that after Citeh we will have Wigan, Blackburn, Fulham & Bolton. Could MON return to send us down or will it be Roy's Albion. No I suggest that DElia will serve ius a dish of hunble pie on the last day of the season. I can see it all because the others seem to be picking up points and playing better |
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... Damian" Who are the worse teams than us NAME THEM |
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... Dont think the results went against us that badly today! I expected us to be 5 points off the bottom three today because i thought bolton would beat wigan which would have put them on 23 but luckily they stay on 20 and blackburn have climbed to 21 which keeps qpr in trouble so i guess being 7 points rather than 5 above the bottom three is something,and once we get tomorrows embarrasement out of the way hopefully we can pick up some wins in our next four games which are all crucial. Just wish we could win a game without having to play that well because everton managed to beat chelsea at home with ease today and thats what we could do with tomorrow but it seems even when we play well we lose! |
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... bobvillian i removed your comment - all capitals. you know better McLeish Out We shouldnt be in 1, there are 10 worse teams than us.i dont understand your position. first you say we are in a relegation battle then your position moves into one of suggestion. the FACT is we are not in a relegation battle there is no suggestion. then, there are 10 worse teams than us. so what does that actually mean - you think we should be 10th in the table and then you would be happy? can i ask how old you are? i mean, you hide your identity, so we dont know, but i get the impression you are maybe late teens - is that right? |
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... bobvillian three worse teams are wolves, bolton and west brom. there are more |
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... Hide my identity? I have been interviewed on talksport and WM twice about this. Why are you trying to belittle me questioning my age? By the way you are way off |
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... McLeish Out you dont use your real name, you created an email address not using your real name i'm not trying to belittle you - but there doesn't seem to be much thought with your position against mcleish so tell people your name and age then |
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... There are 5 of us behind the website, sadly none with web design skills! |
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... Aside from when a team is in the bottom 3 when are a team officially involved in a relegation battle? Isn't it when they do not have enough points to stay up? I genuinely would like to know. |
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... What a shame all this protesting wasn't initiated against O'Neill 4 years ago when he was pouring Lerner's money, and our potential heritage, down the toilet. At that time there could have been something to salvage. All too late now. We know AM isn't right but he has, as would any replacement, nothing to work with. |
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... Ordinaryjoe (post 45), if you believe my 44th post was doom and gloom, just post again after the game tomorrow. Humour with a tint of sarcasm is all I have left this season, as AMC has sapped the living juice out of my system. And like Damian says, thank God there are at least a few teams worse off than us so we may just squeak through and not get relegated. After watching the games and highlights today, it is VERY clear to me that we are seriously one of the worse teams in the league this season. Watching Spurs-Newcastle at the moment and cannot believe we lost to Newcastle last week.... Score 2-0 Spurs in first 5 minutes! |
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... Oops, my apologies....that's 4-0 Spurs. |
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... Spurs 4 Newcastle 0 and not even half time yet... Talk about Retribution... Where's that mouthy Geordie git now??? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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... marc4: it is OK, I saw the humour in your post too. although joking, there was a lot of things very near the truth in there! Cant say I am feeling very much less than "doom & gloom" myself: position in table looks a bit sick unless we can pick up at least a point tomorrow. Right now it seems we can only live in some sort of hope of an unexpected result. |
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... Spurs show us how good Newcastle really are! sorry to go on about this, but Villa and Spurs spent roughly the same on players and wages, how can we be so far behind?! |
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... in the old cliche, there are lot of team that look "on paper" worse than us, but are for whatever reason (you work it out!) playing better than us! Can many people say that (for example) Fulham, Stoke, Norwich, Toons, sunderland....(to name a few) have got so much of a better squad "on paper", yet look where are in the table in comparison...... I am not very convinced by the reassurance that teams are "worse than us" - right now Chelski are playing about as bad as us! |
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... There is no point in protesting tomorrow. |
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... Damian i agree with McLeish Out its very naive of you to think we cannot go down. That's what Westham fans thought last season, same as Middlesbrough fans when they went down a few seasons back. And same goes for the Newcastle fans when they went down. Fact is we are not too good to go down thought you would know this by now. You should really support their cause Damian we all Villa fans and theirs is a villa cause. |
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... why hasnt mcleish ever taken the blame for the s**t we have been served? he always blames the players or luck. not once has he said it was his tactics or decisions. NOT ONCE!!! does this not seen strange? pro-mcleishers please try defend that!! does this not tell us whay type of man, what type of manager he is? we dont need or deserve someone like this at villa. its so obvious its painful. |
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... We are not in a relegation battle, but if we dont start picking up a better win ratio than 1 in 4, we soon will be. Damo, im signed in but me post is not appearing. Im on me daughters lap top, so IP??? |
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... Shane Villains why is it naive? it isn't naive because it is using the numbers. we will win one in four under this manager and draw, 1.5 out of every four - with those numbers, we will stay up all this talk of relegation is embarrassing and all it does is go to further prove that some haven't got a clue as for you bringing up other teams - west ham, at 24 games, were BOTTOM of the table - if their supporters didn't think they were going down, then they were deluded if you are going to use examples, use examples of a team in our position after this many games |
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... And Argotis - you are not logged in. If you were, your comments would just show |
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... Players will compromise on wages to live in London or around the Manchester/Liverpool scene. Play for a London team and you can move around but your family doesn't have to. Very often we see good players go to what are worse teams but sometimes thats because its easier. I wouldn't move every 3 years for a job. Anyway, I think thats why we've maybe spent over the odds a bit on some players. Moving on to tomorrow if this is an omen its only the second home game I'll miss this season (flu) and the other one was a rare win (Norwich). Last year I seem to remember Man City were going to tear us a new one but it didn't quite turn out like that. I still think we'll be OK this season because as everyone keeps saying there are worse teams than us. Our block of 4 important games start after Man City and those are the games where we need to pick up the points - a couple of 6 pointers in there (as they say) As for the protest I probably would have gone - reason being that now its been picked up and gained some profile its important lots of people get involved otherwise the media and the club will just say its a few lunatics barking at the moon. |
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... i am having trouble logging on to blog so just doing dummy run |
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... Make no mistake before he (AM) was hired the board knew they had a lot of s**t coming their way and needed a monkey to catch it and who better than a hard nosed Scotsman? He will cope with it better than that French chap did |
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... I don't think that there is any point in protesting tomorrow,Lerner will not be interested,he did not want our opinion when appointing AM,so why would he be bothered now.We have paid for our season tickets the money is in the bank.If AM goes then we will only get another idiot,the club drifts from one mess to another,and Lerner and Faulkner are to blame. O'neil was a good appointment by Doug,then Lerner and Faulkner gave him so much rope that he bought players he didn't use,and paid them all more than they were worth,now Lerner is trying to get his money back all at once,and we have no depth in our squad and having to make do with a manager who is willing to take the flack whilst on big money.We will not attract a manager who is ambitious because he won't be given money to progress,the bad management is not only on the field but at the very top,I have written to Faulkner about how I feel but he did't even reply,that shows that they don't care what we think. The only protest we season ticket holders can make is by not taking up our seats next season,say there are 25000 of us and we don't go next season,they would be left with about 7000 going next season(on current gates),now that is the only protest Lerner will take notice of,no point in not going this season he has got our money,so lets be in this together and not renew |
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... When are we all going to wake up and start seeing it for what it,when are the players who step over the white line going to starts taking some responsibility I honestly don t think any other Manager would get much out of this lot especially with the players at the Back We all thought when Houllier said give me the summer to sort out the defence he meant apending more time on the training ground I actually think he meant Dunne ,Collins - who in my opinion should never have played before after the Drinking episode on the team bonding session last season and Warnock all being shown the door. |
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... The protests will go ahead, will be forgoten in a couple of weeks and nothing would of changed. Randy knows and so does PF that the fans want mct**t out, that's the reason we haven't seen both them for a while, if they did care they would be here reassuring us |
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... Damian it is naive because no team is too good to go down and right now we are in a relegation scrap plain and simple the table does not lie. Westham were at the bottom for most of the season but a section of their fans like you are now believed they were worser teams than them so they would survive reason why Avram Grant made it to the end of the season which resulted in their relegation. I could come with countless teams who were in our position at this time of the season and went on to get relegated if i was to go back in the premiership history but that is too long and pointless when we all know closer to home what happened to the blues under him. |
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... len i agree that season ticketers should not renew for next season to make a point. but this protest is a way for us all to get our feelings known. maybe lerner takes note, maybe not. but we need to voice our disgust at not only this manager, but regime. it DOES have a point |
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... And Damian what is really embarrassing is not using logic look at the table, look at our form, check who our manager is and ask your self if we still cannot get relegated. |
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... The only man that can make a change is randy and he needs to come out of were ever he is hiding |
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... Shane Villains i give up with you, i really do. you used the word naive in one context then use it for another to score points you cant just keep changing the context to suit. i've not even read the rest of your comment because it will probably be you changing context of something else and before you comment again suggesting it wasn't, you said it was naive of me to think we couldn't go down in the first context - which is rubbish and in your second, you call me naive to think we are too big to go down as for McLeish Out still not standing up and putting his name on any of this is he - no, now he is saying there are five involved. i'd like to know in what they are exactly involved .. creating user names? |
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... Koreanvilla,we all have a right to protest,and you could be right in that it is getting noticed in the press,I am worried about the future that was supposed to be bright for us,but now it is dull.We go to Villa as a family of four and sit in the family area,we used to look forward to going,and most times enjoy the games,now we don't want to go,my daughter was even hoping for snow so we couldn't make it tomorrow,this is a terrible situation. If we don't win tomorrow and WBA do then we will be getting near the drop zone,our only hope is that there are three teams worse than us. |
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... We should play with 10 men tomorrow as Warnock is such a liability it would be better to drop the left back position all together than play him Also dont,t knock the protest and I say well done to all who attended it.Its the start of the revolution and tomorrows is the first step I have never been so pissed off as a viila fan and tomorrows game has all the possibilty of being so one sided as I believe they will play us off our own pack. Hope I,m wrong but its a depressing time to be a supporter of this club UTV |
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... Damian: cant quite see what is rattling you so much. We are not all good enough at writing stuff to earn a living out of it, and so if we get our words jumbled up in meaning I think we should be forgiven! (such as "naive" for example) As for hiding identity: I dont think I would like to start criticing the guy about that myself (pots and kettles etc), and why is that so important in this one case: As with so many postings on the blog, cant say I am in full agreement with the guy, but at least he is not abusive or stuff like thst - isnt he entilted to an opinion? |
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... ACFC haven't not won 7 games on the trot at home for years, AMc will be the first one to achieve this appauling record Well Done Lerner and Faulkner for appointing the worst Premier Manager they could get their hands on, NO decent manager would want to manage a club that Lerner and Faulkner are running |
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... Renoir68 and that is the real problem |
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... len very sad to hear that about your young ones they are the future, but at this stage they see going to villa park as a chore, worse than school on a winters monday morning! is this not another reason to shake things up, get a new manager in to bring the good times back ( not that long ago)? we are cursed to winter monday morns with jack 'mcleish' frost at the helm!! |
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... Spurs showing us today what a poor side Newcastle are without Cabaye and Tiote.With Perch and Guthrie in midfield ,we should have beaten them as well.We are so rubbish right now as the manager won't play the right men in the right positions,and our defenders are doing their best to ensure we go down.We are now in 14th place,and 7 points off the relegation zone.Moreover,it looks like some of the teams below us might go on a victorious run,and push teams like us,WBA,Stoke etc down there.I'm starting to get anxious now...... |
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... I wish all those that are going to protest tomorrow the best of luck and I hope its the first of many. Something has to be done about the lack of ambition, passion and ineptitude by the owner, chief exec and manager. Every supporter has been let down by those running the club in recent years and those that do nothing are just as bad as those ruining/running the club. Aston Villa Football Club and its fans deserve far greater respect than Mr Lerner and Co have given them but its not new, he began with the sale of Barry years ago and has consistently sold our best players without fail, every season since. We still haven't been told why MON left from the clubs perspective and as loyal supporters, we at least deserved that but it has never come and now we watch on as MON makes Sunderland a better and more successful side than our own. I he wasn't the messiah but we would have been better with him than without, as has been proven. The Houllier experiment was embarrassing in the extreme, when Lerner brought in a man too ill, too out of date and who had Liverpool tattoo'd on his forehead. He and McCallister were dreadful for the team, divided players and Villa tumbled down the league until it was apparent they were going. Mr Lerner then for some reason decided to go after AMc, poached him from relegated BCFC and paid millions for the honour, a man with a track record that is/was awful, dire and was re-known for setting a team up in a boring defensive manner and just look at how Villa for the main are now playing the game! Sad as it is, a protest is called for, if something is to be done about the negligence and manner in which are beloved club is being run. Make it dignified and then go home! UTV |
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... I think some of the comments on here about the players is all bulls**tt and made by people who do not know anything about football or how a club is run . Don't you lot know that mcmuppet is the only guy who picked the team he is the guy who says who plays where he is the guy who is in charge of everything It is him who brought his love child mutton it's he who picks warlock every week It's him who won't play kids in the right places So all you lot who think the protest is a waste of time must all be happy with him and you are all sheep full stop so turn up tommorow tell every one in the world we hate mcmuppet Then come over Aston park for a game of foot ball |
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... By the way, how about that p***k Suarez? Complete prat and a poor excuse for a human being in my opinion. Likewise, Kenny Dalgleish continually making excuses for the cock nosed racist, he is a joke. |
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... Koreanvilla you are right the kids are the future,my son is a little older,but nevertheless he is still upset,my daughter is younger and very upset,but we hope that by missing one season as our protest(and hopefully others doing the same)this will give Lerner and Faulkner the push to change things,then we can all enjoy our football again,in the meantime I will go to Kidderminster Harriers,and if any Villa fans live near a non league club then why not go,they need support to survive,and the football isn't that bad,infact this season it has been better than Villa!!! |
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... GOOD SHOUT FOR THE KIDDERS! guys, get along on yer weekends & watch some decent, honest footie for a change. spend the money where its appreciated until things change at villa park. sadly, i guess thats the only way to make the 'powers' take note |
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... Well done Korean villa,been to about 5 matches at Kiddy,free parking,nearer home and they do appreciate the support,nearly went bust last year but with the help of fans raised the money to carry on,hope to see some more Villa fans there,adopt a non league club for your football fix.You can even wear your Villa coat or scarf they don't mind.Just think if all season ticket holders did that next season what a boost it would be for grass root football. |
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... having just joined your blog today, ihave to say that the comments made are really well made which ever view you all have. we are all villa fans who are really worried how our club is in decline. i for my part am totally in favour of the protest because it is bringing our suffering to the media attent ion. those of you that remember the decline in the sixties, must realise that protests brought the change of regime then,and that the time as come to for this to happen again. dont forget what happened to leeds,potsmouth,coventry,etc through bad management it will happen to us if we dont get of our arses and force this rabble out. as for relegation those that dismiss it, it can happen there is allways a mid table team that drops into relegation battles. even noel gallagher said it would be us a couple of months ago on talk sport. sorry to be so dispondent, but i have been through this before and dont want it to happen to us again. signed an old vllian |
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... I too am worried that tomorrows protest will be a failure, with the small numbers participating, being used by the club to avert attention away from the real problems, aswell as cementing thier standpoint still further. However, this is the opening shot in a campaign, and hopefully it will gain momentum, and support from more illustrious people. What you must do though, is not fall into the trap of everything that is wrong is because of Mcleish. Your focus must also be on the people whom hired him, and the reasons as to why they hired him. Anything less than this, and you will have fallen hook, line and sinker, into Randys elaborate trap. Having said that, good luck to everyone who attends. |
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... jcv welcome and wise words, whilst I would normally agree with Damian, on this I am afraid I must disagree. His maths are correct and on paper our squad should be better than some of those around us. However things occur that we have no control over, the wrong decision, a freak goal & before you know it - BANG - we are down. Do not underestimate the task ahead of those who get relegated. eg No Bent, Given and many of the kids will be gone. I do not dislike AMC as I do not know him, I do dislike his style, his tactics and TBH the way he deflects blame. But what bugs me more than anything is the way he behaves during the game - some call him clueless, i just think he lacks conviction. Against Swansea when I sat by the dugout and watched he seem inept and hesitant. There is only one real question - should this be the actions of the manager of Aston Villa |
...sorry to be so dispondent, but i have been through this before And the name was Billy McNiel. The similarities back then to now, are frightening. We need wins and quickly. |
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... Unlike many of you i have not set foot in Villa Park since the clowns appointment. I will continue with my own protest until he is sacked, i dont need a banner or a march to make my point, an empty seat speaks far more than that. As for the protest tomorrow, you will march but still part with your money, complete waste of time and effort. Show some balls stay away, make the club we love sit up and take notice. if we all chose to boycot one game that would make them notice. Until then you either carry on lining their pockets or come on blogs and whinge about it and carry on lining their pockets! Show yer claret!!! |
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... Hope the protest is not embarassing and the fans turn up in there numbers and more pressureis heaped on mcleish. I do though have a funny feeling we will win tomorrow, 2-1 to villa. |
...Unlike many of you i have not set foot in Villa Park since the clowns appointment. I will continue with my own protest until he is sacked, i dont need a banner or a march to make my point, an empty seat speaks far more than that. I've got loads of mates like that. Y'know the type.. "I'll never set foot in Villa Park while Ellis is in charge." And guess what. They never did. And they never do, even though Ellis has long gone. It'll be the same with all this protesters on here claiming they won't go while McCleish is in charge. Its just a nice easy excuse for them while they're shopping with their missus. |
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... rsvf i am totally in agreement with you. dont villa fans really know or really accept what s**t we are really in. lads and lasses smell the coffee and wake up. damian get real we are in a real relegation battle. i can tell the times of the past.billy mcbingo springs to mind |
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... Protest & Refuse to enter the stadium stay outside and be heard from there the club at the moment don#t deserve any money for the football its showing Like Marmite your not gonna keep buying it if you don't like it |
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... i for one will not be going to the match.The best way to protest is with your feet.STAY AWAY FROM VILLA PARK |
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... Was this a crazy dream: The tream plays a blinder and scrapes a win against an under-performing City, and the protest is left to look a bit unecessary. The risk of the protect is that the media will always keep saying that the fans dont like the manager because of previous employment. To anyone outside the Villa fan base, that seems like a poor reason to protest. |
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... Another daft dream: I openned the blog and it was full of posts that try to get everybody down to VP and to make some real noise and get behind the team - even in those parts of the game they are struggling. This could be the "make a noise" campaign. Then, like the movies, you wake up and everything is real and disappointing |
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... What is embarrassing is that it's taken so long to stage a protest.No clubs fans would of put up with this atrocious manager and results for so long....ABOUT TIME |
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... davidc - What's your point? Do you think it's easy for Villa fans to stay away from Villa Park? If that's what your saying you haven't got a clue. Personally I haven't been since that cretin Houllier was put in charge because the club is being run irresponsibly and I'm sick and tired of throwing good money away. Instead of being one of the sheep, you should try and do something about it! |
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... God this is f**king terrible. Makes me want to cry every f**king weekend... Such such negativity around the club. Sometimes I prefer the days we aren't f**king playing!! We need change and we need a f**king positive one! |
...Alex McLeish's side are the only team not to have scored from a corner routine in the Premier League this season. They have conceded 10 goals from corners. City have scored 11 Premier League goals from corners this season - more than any other side. Worrying to say the least.... |
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... f**ks sake, I look at the s**t teams upcoming fixtures and it makes me think a f**king bluenose is MD of the FA!! Isn't it about time Wigan took their nice football down to championship becuz surely theycant defy the laws of gravity again... And f**king Blackburn with their clearly s**t manager, surely they will go down? And wolves with their constant hovering around the relegation zone... That has to be it? Don't think WBA will go down, don't think fulham will go down, unsure on Bolton, dunno about QPR???? In fact, will any of the promoted teams go down??? Historically, atleast one should... It won't be swansea, it won't be Norwich.. So QPR???? |
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... well thats great, Whatever he decides, McLeish, who could be the subject of a fans’ protest today before kick-off against Man City, is convinced he has the total backing of Lerner. in the old days this mean't he was off on Monday - oh please be the case! |
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... lets get behind the team, lets get villa park rocking c'mon you villa boys ! |
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... OMG looks like RL is pulling the wool again, reported (in The People) that he is going to give AM the money for one "big" summer signing, is this an attempt to con and appease the fans again or an incentive for AM to avoid the dreaded drop? Whichever I wont hold my breath and if AM is still the manager who the hell might he sign? |
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... I see this AVTV Promo thing is as fcuked up as the club. All you get is an error page, and when try to enter by signing up, all you get is an error page. Honestly, they remind of MR Dim. Carry on alienating the support Lerner. Ive already decided that my boycott of everything Villa, extends until you sell or disipate into nothingness. In fact, i trust you less than i trusted uncle Doug, and i dispised him, so get out of my frigging club, quickly, because i want to start supporting the club i love, again. Damo, your site is playing up aswell lol |
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... 1 clean sheet in 13 league and cup game! Says it all..... |
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... When you watch teams in and around you it makes you realize just how poor we are and howmuch quality we lack. Every team has one or two good dangerous players but we dont, no where near. I watched a bit of BBurn on footy first and they played some lovely stuff in the first half and they have every chance of beating us at there place. Everton are on a good run and Fulham have way to much quality to go down. Very hard to beat at there place. QPR will be fine this season under Hughes and wolves always stay up by the skin of thee teeth. we are in real trouble. We are 14 th and its going to stay that way by the end of today. Even a win cant get us in to the top half. We have very chance of going down and i dont get people that say we are to good because we really aren't. we are as bad as anyone in this league, maybe apart from AM |
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... Would you all rather we won and McL stayed, or we lose 7-0 [Albri 12] and he goes? City Blue-know your history, we have been down to the 3rd, and with some pretty crap managers. Strangely enough I carried on supporting the Club. 9 years later we won the League; 10 years later we won the European Cup, via 3 League Cup Final appearances. |
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...Would you all rather we won and McL stayed, or we lose 7-0 [Albri 12] and he goes? It is a loaded question: Even if 7-0, I doubt that the club wil remove the manager. It will be treated as a blip and even excusable given the opposition: even ManU got a thrashing earlier in the season. |
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... All this garbage on lots of posts saying we are to good to go down or there are lots of worse teams than us really makes me want to puke!!We are were we are because we are crap with a crap manager and we are in serious trouble and in danger of the trap door.Lots of players dont look interested in putting in a shift with no desire.We have one of the worse defences and the muppet does not see any other players who he could put in to retify this problem.Next 5games will tell us where we are going to play next year;nothing less than 8-10 points will do in my book. |
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... Stanley finally states that Villa are in a relegation battle this season |

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