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Milner back, Webcam staying and we are drawing a line

It really is all a bit tedious now. James Milner is off; we know this. The manager told us he wants to go and we have already had one bid in from Manchester City and you never sell on the first offer.

But now there are rumours that Webcam is off or might be sold by the owner, despite him saying, only a few days ago, that he was happy. But then, some get flustered because there is another rumour that O'Neill will leave if Webcam is sold. It must all be true.

It isn't all true

Some people need to stand back for a moment when they read a headline. Most of these rumours are made up by the Mirror Group and they are made up to drive traffic to a website so you click on one of their links and they make money or they can over inflate their visitor numbers to charge higher for advertising.

Has Randy Lerner ever done anything, apart from move season ticket holders out of the Trinity so he can make more money with corporate seating, that suggests he would sell Webcam without O'Neill knowing about it. Does it really sound like something the owner would do?

Lerner isn't going to sell Webcam without O'Neill approving it and O'Neill isn't going to walk away from a job that gives him €3,000,000 a season. On top of all that - Webcam wants to stay! Someone give him a new contract and publicise the hell out of it.

There will always be interest - ask Harry Redknapp - but the price has to be right and the players must want to go. I'm sure O'Neill is interested in lots of players too. Means nothing.

Line in the sand

So, we are leaving all this Milner speculation now because it is just too much. Let him go or let the club do something that makes him want to stay. Until there is news, we will do our best not to mention it again.

The decision is with James Milner. He can either join Manchester City and not play that often but maybe win something or stay with us, play more football and maybe win something too. Either way he will become extremely wealthy.

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TheDiamond said:

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Here, Here.
Comment 1, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.28 am

runtingz said:

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it all sounds like clap trap regarding webcam MON and randy ..i get the impression that both the chairman and manager care about the club and that the work together really well .... guess u cant blame them for making up stories are the really isnt anything to report right now
Comment 2, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.28 am

Hobbsy said:

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It may have all gone to far for jimmy to come back now, personally I would rather the money for him off city

first???
Comment 3, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.31 am

Damian said:

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It hasn't gone too far yet - it will have gone too far if the player is in the News of the World on Sunday saying it has gone too far but the p layer has said nothing

He could sit down today with the owner and manager and they could convince him to stay .. he could come out and the first things he has said on the subject could be ' i love it at aston villa and want to stay'

It isn't likely - but until something else happens - it isn't too far
Comment 4, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.36 am

VillaDude said:

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I think the only way Milner will stay is if he signs a new contract, if he refuses to then a £25 bid will be accepted...

The manager and chaiman both know, £25m is too good to turn down this summer, next season it will half...
Comment 5, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.41 am

John Salter said:

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I think this is all a publicity stunt to unsettle the club as a whole. As we speak there is no definite evidence that Milner is going. Mercenary City have already bought or are trying to buy all the top class midfielders in Europe and now they're going to have to sell some, stuff. There's every chance Milner will stay now and he should for footballs sake, his career and obviously for Villa.

Some journalist has said this about MON threatening to walk if Ashley Young is sold behind his back. I don't believe that Randy Lerner would do such a thing in the first place. It's all done to unsettle teams like Villa.
Comment 6, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.42 am

VillaDude said:

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I actually think selling Milner for £25m is a better option than keeping him, aslong as it's reinvested well!

If MON can do that is another question?
Comment 7, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.42 am

Chiefy said:

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Damo -- any news on the android app/ mobile site ??
Comment 8, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.43 am

Damian said:

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Chiefy
no news on an android app but there will one day. mobile site is still on target for season kick off - maybe even this weekend

when this is open or i am let in i am going to have a play but we are not going to pay someone to build the ability for you to comment from your android device - if i was getting a serious amount of traffice from android devices i would and if android 1.5 worked exactly the same way as 2.2 it would make it easier but it doesn't ...

but you will get your mobile site
Comment 9, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.45 am

TheDiamond said:

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Spurs only bought Crouch, Bassong and Krankjar last year and look at the season they had.

O'Neill can improve the squad in the same way with the Milner fund.

Lets stay positive please.
Comment 10, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.47 am

JimVilla said:

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Well said Damian. As a PR guru Randy should have a field day with Young extending his contract and it's about time we had something positive to build on. Its a good statement to other young players in the premier league, particularly if players like Milner, Barry and Wright Phillips aren't playing regulalry for City and lose their england shirts. I think Young is going to have a great season, and something tells me Downing is going to step up as well. I might have a tenner on Gabby breaking 20 this year as well.
Comment 11, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.47 am

Christian1983 said:

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I actually think selling Milner for £25m is a better option than keeping him, aslong as it's reinvested well!

If MON can do that is another question?


Never a truer word spoken, VillaDude
Comment 12, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.49 am

JimVilla said:

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check out this pen by Ezequiel Calvente from the Spain under 19's. I think even Brad would have bought the dummy:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/19275/
Comment 13, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.52 am

Lew Chatterleys lover said:

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Have a funny feeling that Milner will still be here start of season, like the Barry saga it's dragging on to long and why the hell should we sell well below our valuation, if a dodgy defender like Lescott was worth 23 million then an England regular like Milner has got to be worth a bit more and 30 million is about right in Man City money. If he does end up staying after todays showdown then MON would be wise to play him against Walsall for our tradional pre season anger venting session (think back to Hendrie & Barry), so we can get it all out of our systems.

I'll be donning my ABH (anyone but Heskey) top tomorrow in readiness for another season of centre circle tumbles, not very near misses, and 16th minute hamstring pulls - CAN'T WAIT !
Comment 14, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.55 am

VillaForeverAndEver said:

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Young can't be, and won't be sold. It will never happen - well, not as long as Milner is being sold.
Comment 15, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.56 am

Chiefy said:

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Damo - once the mobile site is up I will get an android app developed to make accessing the site easier smilies/wink.gif
Comment 16, made on July 26, 2010 at 11.56 am

jonnie5 said:

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There is a rumour the deal could be done as soon as tommorrow 14.5m and Ireland
Comment 17, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.00 pm

TheDiamond said:

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where is this rumour jonnie?
Comment 18, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.01 pm

nath888 said:

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I'm predicting young will have a fantastic season.

He had a great season before milner came and alot of that was because he was probably the main focus of the team and alot of the football was played through him. He was given that free role which he did so well before milner.
Comment 19, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.02 pm

Luckynumber7 said:

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Hey Damo - not to prove my point, but in doing so knowing that I am at least helping to prove my point, I would just like to say I am fully behind you on this post. Gents - please read this and believe it, and forget all that nonsense in the papers. Milner will likely go, but may not. Webcam aint going anywhere, I really can't see it.

Oh - and great news on the android site. I access to read via my HTC quite often, but it's a bit clumsy with the browser, so an app would be great.
Comment 20, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.06 pm

VijayD said:

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The only problem is that Mon wont be give all the Milner money to buy players, expect 10 million of it to go back into Lerner's pocket.

Comment 21, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.06 pm

jonnie5 said:

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I dont know how reliable it is I was reading on the blue moon fourm and the comment was made by someone who they say is well informed. Let's just see whats happens in the next couple of days. It does look like we are Irelands second choice though apperently he was holding out for liverpool but it doesnt look like thats going to happen.
Comment 22, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.06 pm

Damian said:

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If he cant be persuaded and there is a deal - fantastic. At the very least it gets put to bed
Comment 23, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.08 pm

Chiefy said:

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Luckynumber 7 --- I use my x10 and like you say it is a pain in the arse, once Damo gets the mobile site up and running I will try to get an app developed using the mobile site
Comment 24, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.11 pm

bobvillian said:

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why is MON talking up young for expected bids before end of transfer window;looks like he will be sold of as well.
Comment 25, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.11 pm

jonnie5 said:

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From what I read MON wants it done and dusted as soon as, he will then, so this guy is saying, bid for mcgeady.
Comment 26, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.13 pm

mikey18 said:

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The balls in City's court now, if they don't put in another bid we are stuck with Milner who will resent MoN and the club for not letting him leave. He won't sign a new contract and will be worth less in the last year of his contract.

If they do put another offer in there is pressure on us to accept because its now publicly known that Milner wants out (according to MoN) and we are in the throws of finding a replacment.

I really don't think this situation could of been handled any worse!
Comment 27, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.13 pm

Chiefy said:

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Vijay -- give it a rest, how the hell on earth would you know that ??

Every time someone attempts at positivity someone has to come along in there size 9's
Comment 28, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.14 pm

Greg Davillain1887 said:

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Id love to get ireland, if milner stays he needs to sign a contract otherwise he'll need to be sold to the highest bidder. I'd hate to see young go, i think downing should improve and albrighton may progress. I still wouldnt mind giving mcgeady a chance, he'll eith be s**te or brilliant, i think with a good start he can do the business. No problems having 4 wingers if we are not going to change our style of play, we also need a striker and an athletic defensive midfielder, its gona be an interesting transfer window come the last week of august
Comment 29, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.15 pm

TheDiamond said:

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jonnie5.

Could you not just post the link for us?
Comment 30, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.17 pm

jimboAVFC said:

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jimmy walks into training today:

MON: Jimmy, a word in my office
*milner sits down*
Do you want to play for the villa or not?
JM: i want to go.
MON: Pack your stuff and go home. It's be emotional.

*MON on the phone to mancini*
MON: get your check book out. he's all yours, 15m plus Ireland.
*MON hangs up*

Why is this dragging on sooooo long. This should be easily sorted today.
Comment 31, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.19 pm

jonnie5 said:

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If you go on to Villa news and veiws and check out there most recent post on milner you will read it there.
Comment 32, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.19 pm

mikey18 said:

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Ireland would be a good shout, i'd also like to see Bentley come in. I was watching premiership years and that season he had with Blackburn was impressive! Tottenham look like they are a little hard up for money themselves so they might be tempted with an 10mil bid and i'd much rather spend that on Bentley than McGeady.
Comment 33, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.21 pm

jonnie5 said:

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If what i read is true the offer has been made its just a case of milner being informed before we accept. I just think milner is mad leaving us to go and play for a team where his chances could be limited.
Comment 34, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.24 pm

Cannock Villa said:

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Home and away shirts go on sale 16th and 23rd September respectively. Five and six weeks after the season starts, makes you wonder if anything down VP is being managed properly!. A bit of an embarassment if you ask me, how many other teams are putting their new kits on sale this late??
Comment 35, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.24 pm

DAJ said:

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Its only rumour, and this is from the Man City end, but a bid was made on Friday, and another was sent oithff yesterday.

Its from a ITK on Blue Moon forums, and the guys does seem to be respected for the info he gives out.

With everyone knowing that talks are due today, then i think it makes sense that Man City would indeed put an improved offer on the table before the player and his agent meet with Martin and Randy.

Milners gone, its just what we get for him, how much of it is made available to the manager, and how he then spends it.
Comment 36, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.25 pm

TheDiamond said:

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Jimbo you're assuming Man City have actually upped their offer. They haven't yet have they? Maybe they will get cold feet. Maybe O'Neill has already made something like the proposal you mentioned. We just can't know.

It's easy to say things should be done a certain way when you're on the outside looking in.
Comment 37, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.26 pm

Greg Davillain1887 said:

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mcgeady and bentley are both wingers but very different, id have to take a punt on mcgeady, bently to me is like sidwell, cudnt do it at a bigger club, let go at arsenal, did well at bburn, cudnt cut it at spurs, at least mcgeady is unprven so its hard to know what to expect, but id prefer watching him bomb up and down the line making fools of defenders, than watching bentley ponce around with hhis greasy side parting
Comment 38, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.28 pm

DAJ said:

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Greg.....

I dont think Ireland or any other player will be part of the deal. I think those kind of deal are complicated and protracted, since so many differing equations come into play, such as respective valations ect.

I have a feeling that they we will get the Milner thing dusted first, before going on to anyone else from City, if indeed we do.
Comment 39, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.30 pm

jonnie5 said:

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The one thing I would say about McGeady is he likes to take on his man and is capable of doing so as well, lets see hay.
Comment 40, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.31 pm

bobvillian said:

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mcreadey is a waste of space;why do we need another winger anyway?if he only brings in 2 players then a creative midfielder and top goalscorer is what we need.i have this nasty feeling jenus and zamora or cole will turn up.then prepare yourself for a really s**t season.
Comment 41, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.37 pm

DAJ said:

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Bobvillian,

Maybe they have plans to move away from 4-4-2 by moving Ashley inside?

And has McGeady ever played in that position?
Comment 42, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.42 pm

VillaNick said:

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Johnson coming in as PX with the Milner deal. Ireland is a great talent but MON doesn't like trouble makers, so it looks unlikley.

Keane and McGready I think would be the other additions, a very safe transfer window. Not very inspiring. O'Neill knows better than any of us though who could do the business for for the team.
Comment 43, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.42 pm

Corky said:

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Why do we want Mcgeady ? We already have The best winger in Britain plus the best prospect plus Downing.
Comment 44, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.43 pm

Chiefy said:

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Home and away shirts go on sale 16th and 23rd September respectively


Thats is poor very poor ! smilies/angry.gif
Comment 45, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.44 pm

jk92293 said:

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Home and away shirts go on sale 16th and 23rd September respectively



so its the old jerseys for the first 4-5 games of the season??? f**king retarded!
Comment 46, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.49 pm

TheDiamond said:

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bobvillain do you walk around under a permanent rain-cloud or something? You're a real glass half empty kind of guy aren't you?

Correct me if I'm wrong but there hasn't been a single link with Jenas or Zamora outside of forum posts.

We've as much chance of singing Zamora as we do of re-signing Paul McGrath. It would leave Fulham with one recognised striker (Johnson) who appears to be permanently crocked. Zamora is going nowhere.

As for Jenas we have been linked with 8 midfielders all better than him so where is this feeling of yours coming from?

It's just not logical to think like this.

Comment 47, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.51 pm

mikey18 said:

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Lets just put tings into perspective greg da villain, i would take a punt on Mcgeady like we took a punt on maloney, but i wouldn't spend 10mil on a player who's best season was 7 goals and 16 assists in the SPL.

Bentley left arsenal when he was 20 years old, In the two season before he left he got 7 goals and 13 assists and 8 goals and 13 assists, in a much superior league. Even last season he got 6 assists and 4 goals and he never even played!! Thats probably still more than downing.

Regardless of his side parting Bentley has proved he can do it in the premierleague, and if it wasn't for a very dangerous aaron lennon he would be in the tottenham side!
Comment 48, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.51 pm

VillaDude said:

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Link to the Milner/Ireland rumour, scroll down to cooments by Michael Porter

http://astonvilla-views.com/20...s-ireland/
Comment 49, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.51 pm

jk92293 said:

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Why do we want Mcgeady ? We already have The best winger in Britain plus the best prospect plus Downing.

judging from pre-season, young could be playing "in the hole".
Comment 50, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.51 pm

Cannock Villa said:

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By the time the new shirts come out it will be too cold to wear them! I suggest we all write to Nike and request that they are made out of Polartech Fleece!
Comment 51, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.56 pm

Andy said:

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VillaDude....That Michale Porter sounds like the fella on here (was it Vijay) last summer going on about exactly who was coming to Villa and it never happened...lol.

I have it good authority James Milner will be going to Man City. There you go...shows how easy it is to say what's going to happen. Keane will be coming to Villa and Ireland too. McGeady will be here by the weekend.

Unfortunately I'm reliably informed Heskey will be here for another season. That's the worst news of the lot smilies/grin.gif
Comment 52, made on July 26, 2010 at 12.59 pm

Andy said:

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Who on here over 25 actually would go out wearing a football shirt in public...? Other than going to a game. Which, even then is a bit wrong.
Comment 53, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.03 pm

mickey86 said:

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why are people (the press and pundits) making out that villa are being rediculous by putting a £30million price tag on milner. we dont want to sell him so we put a price tag on him where if we get close to that then well consider it. its not as if we have decidied to want to get rid of him and are asking for £30million.

on a more serious note, whos idea was it to put cheap teracotta pots with geraniums in outside bodymore heath.... TACKY!!
Comment 54, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.05 pm

DAJ said:

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Unfortunately I'm reliably informed Heskey will be here for another season. That's the worst news of the lot



Clever move that by the gaffer. It means he has somebody else to take all the flak, and moves the spotlight off himselfsmilies/grin.gif



ONLY JOKING!!!!!!!!smilies/wink.gif
Comment 55, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.06 pm

Araujo1958 said:

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Home and away shirts go on sale 16th and 23rd September respectively

No wonder we've got no money to spend in the transfer window!!!!!!
Comment 56, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.10 pm

Chiefy said:

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Who on here over 25 actually would go out wearing a football shirt in public...? Other than going to a game. Which, even then is a bit wrong.


I would, I am proud of my colours I wear them when ever I can, also one of the first things i pack when i go abroad. I dont see what your point is, is it wrong to be over 25 and wear a football shirt in public ?
Comment 57, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.11 pm

Chiefy said:

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Oh I dont live near Villa or even in Birmingham so I am proud to wear my shirt in amongst all the clowns wearing their liverscum, manure and chelski shirts even though hardly any of them have ever been to a game
Comment 58, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.13 pm

Andy said:

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is it wrong to be over 25 and wear a football shirt in public ?


Yes smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 59, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.22 pm

AV4EVER said:

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Even with all the attacking play Villa posses, we still didn’t manage to score enough goals last season; also we looked pretty light in midfield. We need someone who can put a tackle in but who can also spread the ball about and can also run from box to box (sounds a lot like a player we’ve already got, yes, James Milner). We look too one dimensional, mark our wingers and we don’t posses a threat.

We need a top class striker, Keane has done it at top level but is getting on now, but get him at the right price it might be just right for fonzie, I still think the fonz needs a little more time because if he gets his chance now and he gets found out because he's not ready, then it could ruin the boy has far as confidence goes. We need a play maker, someone like Fabregas, easy said than done, I can’t think of any player with the money we have to spend, maybe we should be looking in Spain as they seem to have plenty of them. Defence looks solid but I think Villa should be looking for another Goal keeper and another right back.


Comment 60, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.23 pm

TheDiamond said:

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There was a guy on here last week claiming to work at a hotel in Birmingham where O'Neill and Robbie Keane had booked a conference room for a meeting.

Keane was in the U.S. with Spurs and definitely never made such a trip.

I can gauranf*****gtee you that no one posting on a football forum will hear anything concrete about a player transfer before it's made its its way to a journalist and appeared all over the internet/tabloids etc. first.

Football forums are worse than the Mirror and the Star for spreading nonsense.
Comment 61, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.26 pm

Craigy1874 said:

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Home and away shirts go on sale 16th and 23rd September respectively


Where you have heard this?

Nothing on the offical site, it better not be true.
Comment 62, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.26 pm

VillaDude said:

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Latest rumour Man City are offering Bellamy as part of the Man City deal...


Bellamy or keane? who would you prefer?
Comment 63, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.27 pm

Craigy1874 said:

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is it wrong to be over 25 and wear a football shirt in public ?


Yes


Don't be so stupid. Of course its not.
Comment 64, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.28 pm

Andy said:

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TheDiamond...Here, here, well said. Until stuff actually comes out of someones mouth or actions are taken, then treat it as worthless. Especially transfer rumours or speculation, whetever you want to label it. But it can be a bit of fun, if you treat it as that smilies/grin.gif
Comment 65, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.29 pm

VillaDude said:

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Very true about rumours, but what else do we have to go on...Nothing official comes from the club due to various reasons...

We are on a Internet blog talking about football , rumours and "ITK" are always going to be a talking point..
Comment 66, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.33 pm

Andy said:

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Craigy....When out and about and see other grown men in other teams shirts don't they look daft. I can guarantee women think that about men wearing football shirts smilies/wink.gif
Comment 67, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.34 pm

DAJ said:

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Latest rumour Man City are offering Bellamy as part of the Man City deal...


Bellamy or keane? who would you prefer?





Does Bellamey have a say in this?smilies/wink.gif


Sorry, but i stick to what i said earlier. I cant see any players coming from Man City as part of any deal for Milner. It makes things very complicated, and involves to many people.
Comment 68, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.37 pm

Craigy1874 said:

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Andy said:
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Craigy....When out and about and see other grown men in other teams shirts don't they look daft. I can guarantee women think that about men wearing football shirts


When i see them in other teams shirt, i do think it looks stupid. But when in a villa shirt, thats different !smilies/grin.gif

Re woman, the right woman will accept ur love for your football team (Villa), the wrong woman won't and will be scraping the barrell looking for a blues fan.
Comment 69, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.39 pm

DAJ said:

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The Diamond....


We all enjoy reading it thoughsmilies/cool.gif

Can you imagine how dull a summer transfer window would be for us Fans, with out themsmilies/grin.gif
Comment 70, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.39 pm

Andy said:

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he wrong woman won't and will be scraping the barrell looking for a blues fan.


lol....smilies/grin.gif
Comment 71, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.42 pm

Chiefy said:

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Andy -- so do you not wear your colours ?


Bellend instead of keane all day, Bellend is a pain in the arse and gets under the skin of everyone just what you want on your team
Comment 72, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.43 pm

DAJ said:

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Andy is a shirt Nazi!!!

Im rliably informed that im 104 years of age, and i still wear my clubs colours.

OK, the smell of moth balls and deep heat aint the most appealing, and the holes are a little upsetting on the eye, but you can still see Andy Lockheads autograph somewhere on the front next to the egg stain.


Fascist!!
Comment 73, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.43 pm

Joty said:

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Why all this fuss – time is on our side.
Milner isn´t a 25mio player as we all know, but the price will be paid. Why: because there is the homegrown rule. All the top clubs have a problem to fill their 25 men squads with good enough homegrown players - even if a Fabregas is valued as homegrown. Villa have the players, because MON has bought them in the past, which was a masterstroke. And you will see offers for Gabby and Ashley too with high fee´s involved. Maybe we let go one of them too, and will buy MON´s targets (even foreigners).
Comment 74, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.44 pm

TheDiamond said:

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Chiefy that sounds a lot more like Stephen Ireland to me. smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 75, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.45 pm

Andy said:

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Andy -- so do you not wear your colours ?


It's not whats on the outside, it's what's on the inside that counts and my blood in claret and blue smilies/wink.gif
Comment 76, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.46 pm

VijayD said:

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Chiefy mate, im not going to say how i know cos i cant!
But lets wait and see when the window closes what type of business we've done
Comment 77, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.47 pm

Andy said:

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To save on the expense of a coffin, Alex Higgins will be burried in his snooker cue case smilies/tongue.gif
Comment 78, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.47 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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Harry Redknapp confirms he is not interested in Young or Milner....

(Sky Sports)
Comment 79, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.49 pm

DAJ said:

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Harry Redknapp is interested in every player that appears in a Rothmanssmilies/wink.gif
Comment 80, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.50 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Here we go again..Vijay knows what's going to happen. Wasn't it you last summer Vijay that said he was at the Peace Cup and knew who we were signing. Didn't get one bit of info right. smilies/grin.gif
Comment 81, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.51 pm

VijayD said:

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Young wont be going anywhere, thanks Arry!
Comment 82, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.52 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Bellend instead of keane all day, Bellend is a pain in the arse and gets under the skin of everyone just what you want on your team


Chiefy, do you realise what you have just written? smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 83, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.52 pm

SCOTT1 said:

SCOTT1
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incidentally when do we leave for Portugal?Surely something would have happened by then?smilies/sad.gif
Comment 84, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.52 pm

VijayD said:

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Andy just wait mate! i didnt mention any names last summer, get your facts right!
Comment 85, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.53 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Andy --- if your worrying about what woman think about what you looklike that would indicate you are single and if this is the case and you are, as you asked, over 25 you must really ugly and i wouldnt worry about what you looklike in a football shirt
Comment 86, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.55 pm

John Salter said:

John Salter
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Harry Redknapp has said today he's not going for Milner or Young - Sky News!

New Kit - Surely that can't be true about it not being out until September?

The Diamond - Very true, every word!
Comment 87, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.55 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Andy --- if your worrying about what woman think about what you looklike that would indicate you are single and if this is the case and you are, as you asked, over 25 you must really ugly and i wouldnt worry about what you looklike in a football shirt


FIIIIIIGHT! smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 88, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.57 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Andy just wait mate! i didnt mention any names last summer, get your facts right!


So let me get this right then Vijay.....You are telling us absolutely nothing at all and then saying trust what you have told us....? I'm obviously having a senior moment. smilies/cheesy.gif

I'll bet I can make a more accurate prediction than you can Vijay. Wanna play..? smilies/wink.gif
Comment 89, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.57 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Andy

Some women fancy a bloke in a football shirt.... maybe not those with a beer belly, but you never know!

Before you question me, I'm 24 so pass your football shirt wearing law!smilies/wink.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Comment 90, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.59 pm

TheDiamond said:

TheDiamond
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Harry Redknapp confirms he is not interested in Young or Milner....

(Sky Sports)


This is exactly the problem I'm talking about. The News of the World started this nonsense story claiming Spurs had made a 20M bid for Young.

Then it spreads to a litany of internet sites that are effectively a portal through which waves of BS spread and end up presented by posters on football forums as fact.

totalfootball.com tweeted that Spurs were interested in Young just half an hour ago. smilies/smiley.gif

Interestingly RedFace did not dismiss the report that he's interested in Bellamy. That doesn't surprise me. I think they're cut from the same cloth.
Comment 91, made on July 26, 2010 at 1.59 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Before you question me, I'm 24 so pass your football shirt wearing law!


lol Chris smilies/grin.gif You better make the best of it while you can then. Will the new shirt be out before you are 25 then..? smilies/grin.gif
Comment 92, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.03 pm

DAJ said:

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Some women fancy a bloke in a football shirt.... maybe not those with a beer belly, but you never know!



Beer Belly Facist!!!!

Whats wrong with a well matured belly???



And i will let you know, me little skinny rake. That is has no problem attracting women......

OK, they might be all alcoholic, but hey!smilies/grin.gif
Comment 93, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.04 pm

jk92293 said:

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over 25 and wear a jersey?? 2 f**king right! nothing wrong it! smilies/grin.gif
Comment 94, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.06 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Yeah, I'll be allowed to wear it for the whole of this season. What happens if I break the law next summer?

I can imagine you tying young men up in a basement and force feeding them Yorkshire tea and your home-made Tea Cake! smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 95, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.06 pm

VillaJigz said:

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incidentally when do we leave for Portugal?Surely something would have happened by then?


Wednesday according to the Mirror, so hopefully something will be sorted by then!!
Comment 96, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.06 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Chiefy mate, im not going to say how i know cos i cant!


You clown thats all i have to say
Chiefy, do you realise what you have just written?


10 points to villa chris, I am good aint i smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 97, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.08 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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tying young men up in a basement


You seem to know a lot about this subject Chris..! Anything you wanna share with us....? smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 98, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.09 pm

DAJ said:

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You seem to know a lot about this subject Chris..! Anything you wanna share with us....?




Yeah......a gimpsmilies/wink.gif
Comment 99, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.10 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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I feel a few posts of going off the topic coming on..?! smilies/grin.gif
Comment 100, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.12 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Andy -- What is your law on SNOODS ?? smilies/wink.gif
Comment 101, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.17 pm

VijayD said:

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Andy im not making a prediction about what mon will spend, i am telling you what i have heard from a reliable source, you cant expect me to reveal my source mate!
But what is your prediction anyway.....
Comment 102, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.17 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Vijay

What have you said that Andy doesn't believe? I missed it...

Andy

You need to share something with me...tea cake recipe, then I'm all sorted! smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 103, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.19 pm

jk92293 said:

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anyone play Modern Warefare on PS3?

maybe we can veer off Milner/Redknapp/Young for a moment or two smilies/grin.gif
Comment 104, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.20 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Some movement in the transfer market needs to happen, I don't want to be subject of Andy's grooming methods.

Please Martin, lets here something positive.

Comment 105, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.22 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Andy im not making a prediction about what mon will spend, i am telling you what i have heard from a reliable source, you cant expect me to reveal my source mate!


Daddy's or HP ???

Get Fcuking real, the tabloids, who have been doing this alot longer than you, cant get a story on to whats going on so you expect us to believe that Vijay the blog boy knows someone whos knows something ??

Your prediction is shot down, didnt MON wants assurances before he committed ? did he commit ? which by default means he will get money to spend THINK THINK THINK THINK before you post, go off over to football-rumours.com, I bet that is just you posting on there all the time
Comment 106, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.22 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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hear*
Comment 107, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.22 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Vijay....I'm still interested as to what the information you had. I'm not interested in your source, you keep that to yourself. I'f I've missed what your info was I apologise, but if you could just tell me what this info was I'd appreciate it.

My prediction.....Today will come to an end, but my experience of today will help me some other day of my life......
Comment 108, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.26 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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some of my latest Snoods Villa Chris
Comment 109, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.29 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Vijay said.....
i am telling you what i have heard from a reliable source


What is it you heard...? I missed it..sorry...!

My point was Vijay, that you said loads of stuff, stating you had this reliable source last year, then nothing happened. OK, I see it now....You said nothing and nothing actually happened, so you were right smilies/grin.gif
Comment 110, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.31 pm

TheDiamond said:

TheDiamond
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VijayD

Actually yes you should reveal your source. That's what good journalists do. The opposite is what the tabloids do when there is no source and they're making things up.
Comment 111, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.31 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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The mother-in-law has been working hard hasn't she??smilies/grin.gif
Comment 112, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.31 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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The doggy Snood smilies/wink.gif
Comment 113, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.31 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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The mother-in-law has been working hard hasn't she?


I have got my own needles now mate smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 114, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.33 pm

Hobbsy said:

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I predict we spend over 30 million this summer possibly over 40m

however what we recoup will be similar, no more than about 10m net spend I predict, however we could still dramatically improve our side with that
Comment 115, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.34 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Here's my dog smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 116, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.38 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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How about this then fellas.... I go away next Thursday for 2 weeks in Dominican Republic and miss the opening game of the season!! And its the return of 'Der Hammer' too! smilies/cry.gif
Comment 117, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.39 pm

john doyle said:

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dont know what all the doom and gloom is on here the only thing that realy matters is that heskey goes nothing else matters.
we cannot give NCR bayee and young and shory and co away because they have all stated they will not take pay cuts and no club will pay them the money mon dose for doing FA even if they get signed for nothing so the milner money will only pay up the dough owed to these lot thanks to mon.
he wont have any of it to spend on new players so let the kids play or mon can go.
the players he dont like would get a new lease of life under someone who would lissen to them and give them a chance what will randy do ? nothing
we cannot buy anyone or we will go bust simple as that mon has nearly bankrupt the club but all you mon lovers are blind you like the crap style of play at home when he has improved us about 10% in 4 years at a cost of 140 mill he is without the 3rd worst manager we have ever had that is down to him being a controlle freak i am sorry to say
Comment 118, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.40 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Here's my dog


Loving that Snood smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 119, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.42 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Villa Chris -- yours looks happy and a willing Snood model mine lookslike its going to rob a kennel smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 120, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.43 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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I go away next Thursday for 2 weeks in Dominican Republic and miss the opening game of the season!


Priorities are all wrong, I am ashamed smilies/shocked.gif
Comment 121, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.44 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

Sorry Damian, nothing much else to talk about.
Comment 122, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.44 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Chiefy, no choice- gf's sister's wedding!!

Yes Andy, I did say Girlfriend!smilies/tongue.gif
Comment 123, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.45 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Chris..I know you have a gf...weve all had seen her smilies/wink.gif
Comment 124, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.47 pm

VijayD said:

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Villa Chris and Andy, all i was saying was that i have been told that mon wont be given all the Milner money to spend, part of it will be pocketed by Lerner as he wants some of his money back.
Comment 125, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.48 pm

taglor said:

taglor
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Let me get this right damian you have a villa blog and have had numerous headlines relatin to milner but now you are bored of it you say with absolute conviction and 100% source material what is happening and tell everyone else to stop talkin about it?
Comment 126, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.51 pm

taglor said:

taglor
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The first word of your headline is "MILNER". You didn't do that for more hits did you or are you above such things as the red tops you criticise?
Comment 127, made on July 26, 2010 at 2.55 pm

leight said:

leight
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look on the bright side, things could be a hell of a lot worse..

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/07/26/albion-trailing-eric-djemba-djemba/

ha ha
Comment 128, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.12 pm

DanWilson82 said:

DanWilson82
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Official club statement on the OS:

James Milner trained with the rest of the Villa squad today at Bodymoor Heath.

He and the manager, along with chief executive Paul Faulkner and the player's representative, Matthew Buck, had an amicable conversation and, while James will not play in tomorrow's game at Walsall, he will fly with the squad to Portugal on Wednesday ahead of the Guadiana Cup in which Villa will compete with Benfica and Feyenoord this weekend.

What the *^&% is that all about??

Line Drawn
________________________________________ smilies/grin.gif
Comment 129, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.24 pm

the pensioner said:

the pensioner
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Official Statement on AV Club Website re Milner..smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 130, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.29 pm

Genital Grinder said:

Genital Grinder
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Brilliant, just brilliant.

So now he's going to Portugal with the rest of the squad, which means this thing won't be sorted until at least that tournament is over. This had become absolutely ridiculous.

Does anyone even want him to stay anymore?
Comment 131, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.30 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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What the *^&% is that all about??


could he be staying ???
Comment 132, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.33 pm

DAJ said:

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I think that says, Man Citys bid is not good enough?
Comment 133, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.33 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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I don't think Milner will be leaving now.

I think MON is determined to hold out for 30m, and Man City are crazy, but not that crazy to pay it...

Expect another Barry situation, and him going for 12-15m next summer...
Comment 134, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.33 pm

TheDiamond said:

TheDiamond
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Just because the statement says he's going to Portugal doesn't mean he isn't going to be sold before the end of the week.

It means the club have not received an improved bid from Man City, simple as that and O'Neill has to plan accordingly.

Comment 135, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.34 pm

jk92293 said:

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and its back to Milner....thanks avfc.co.uk! smilies/angry.gif
Comment 136, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.35 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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VillaDude ---- one of the first things I said is that, it would make sense. It would help man city settle and trim their squad and mean they could get him for cheaper, MON would think he had won the battle when all he has done is lost us profit
Comment 137, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.37 pm

Geoff said:

Geoff
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This basically means we won't sign anyone for two weeks. This SUCKS. Worst transfer period ever. I'm done, I cannot even pay attention anymore. I'm tuning this out until the season starts because it is far too annoying and just, poor.

Line Drawn.
Comment 138, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.38 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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The worst thing is, without a Milner sale we won't be signing anyone...

Even Sidwell transfer is not finalised...Milner leaving is our only hope in signing 3 or 4 players..
Comment 139, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.39 pm

TheDiamond said:

TheDiamond
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See you Friday Geoff after we've made our first signing. smilies/grin.gif
Comment 140, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.40 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Expect him to be gone by Wednesday, Man Citeh wont want him playing in that they wont want to run the risk of injury. These talks where nothing more than a formality. If they would have said James confirmed he wanted out Citeh would have offered 50p. This way the ball is in their court
Comment 141, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.42 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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The statement isn't about what they have said - it is about what they haven't said and they have basically said very little
Comment 142, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.45 pm

VillaDude said:

VillaDude
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Chiefy, good point. If they turned around and said he wasn't travelling then City would think they have us exactly how they want it...

I just hope it's not longed out over the next few weesk
Comment 143, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.46 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Damo is right it is about what they havent said, the only thing that would have changed anything is if he would have signed a deal, because he hasnt expect a deal to be done before he leaves for Portugal, Citeh now know he wants out but publicly they no he will go with us if nothing is sorted, there was nothing else we could have done, unless he signed a deal that is
Comment 144, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.49 pm

jk92293 said:

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thats some Kerate Kid sh*t right there, Damien! smilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif
Comment 145, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.49 pm

Luckynumber7 said:

Luckynumber7
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Standard practice. No need to play him tomorrow, after one day back. We have to say he's coming away with us, and he may well end up coming, because it's leverage and it shows we are proceeding on the basis that we don't have an agreeable offer. I mean - if someone offers you less than you can accept for your house, you don't move out and start renting in protest.... you don't buy another house just in case they actually increase their offer.

You stay where you are, living in your house.

Milner is a house.
Comment 146, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.51 pm

jk92293 said:

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*Karate...oops!
Comment 147, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.52 pm

Damian said:

Damian
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jk92293

all they have told us is he is just back from holiday and wont be playing tomorrow (sort of expected and not unrealistic) and that he will be travelling to portugal with the rest of the squad (as an aston villa player, also expected)

what they haven't said is that an offer was made to milner - why else have the CEO of the club and the players agent at the meeting if something wasn't offered.

now it is about milner committing to the club - something we all ultimately think will be for the best or manchester city coming in and agreeing to the valuation, which can not be unrealistic, that the club have put on him and that milner is likely in agreement with or at the very least aware of

i hope it was a good offer and i hope that the CEO was able to demonstrate that there is a future at aston villa. if he did, i expect milner to stay but if when asked, the CEO said there isn't any more money to come - then i fully expect milner to want out because what is the point for him if the owner has put in all he can or is willing too and we all know that without more money it isn't going to happen at the club as long as we have o'neill

either way - i suspect we will see closure to this quite soon
Comment 148, made on July 26, 2010 at 3.55 pm

jk92293 said:

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Damien, ah yeah, totally agree, it was just something you could have Mr Miagi say to Daniel san and it wouldnt look out of place smilies/smiley.gif

agree with Chiefy that Man City will have to bid to avoid risk of injury in a semi-competative tourney. Mancini has been whinging in the press that anytime City bid for a player the selling club always ups the price. so he obviously thinks that by moaning, we'll drop our valuation! clown! of course we're going to up the price. when you go around bragging that you've a bottomless pit of cash then you're gonna get taken to the cleaners every time!

now p*ss off Milner - we want the cash!! haha!!
Comment 149, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.00 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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if someone offers you less than you can accept for your house, you don't move out and start renting in protest


how funny would that be smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 150, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.02 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Damo -- could the meeting not have been that we have agreed a fee with Man Citeh and that we are confirming that milners is happy to proceed ?? and like you say giving him the offer and asking him to pick ?
Comment 151, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.03 pm

Villa_Chris said:

Villa_Chris
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Its like a constant mystery isn't it.... would love some clarification. Always leave us hanging. smilies/sad.gif
Comment 152, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.06 pm

carl1234 said:

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city av offered around 23M and we are holding out for around 30m was jus on ssn i dont think city will make there final offer until mid august as they wont want us to av 30m to spend
Comment 153, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.08 pm

DanWilson82 said:

DanWilson82
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Ok line now honestly...

_____________________________________
Comment 154, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.14 pm

Genital Grinder said:

Genital Grinder
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I like Aston Villa
Comment 155, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.25 pm

Luckynumber7 said:

Luckynumber7
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danwilson82 - very good!!! although you may have just a little too much time on your hands!
Comment 156, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.30 pm

pepsi head said:

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vijay you complete moron you told us a lot of crap last summer where you was sharing a room with mon during the peace cup in spainsmilies/cheesy.gif,can your source tell me the winning 6 numbers for the lottery and if you told me it was raining outside i would have to go outside to beleive it:smilies/angry.gif
Comment 157, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.32 pm

Geoff said:

Geoff
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Oh, if we signed someone on Friday or by Friday I would be thoroughly elated. I'm just takin it easy until we actually sign someone, or its basically admitted that something is imminenet. Because this is moving at a snail's pace. Steven Ireland was benched after halftime during the preseason New York Tournament Final Loss To the NY Red Bulls at the weekend here in the US, he flipped out at the manager and then handed in a transfer request, so he will be gone from there soon.
Comment 158, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.38 pm

leight said:

leight
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geoff..

do we want a mardy b*****d at our club who throws his dolls out the pram when he is substituted, sounds like him and mon would get on like a house on fire..

hhmmm!!!
Comment 159, made on July 26, 2010 at 4.40 pm

Greg Davillain1887 said:

Greg Davillain1887
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leight,

yes, yes we do
Comment 160, made on July 26, 2010 at 5.16 pm

TheDiamond said:

TheDiamond
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Geoff. Stephen Ireland doesn't want to come to Villa. He wants to go to Liverpool.
Comment 161, made on July 26, 2010 at 5.23 pm

Andy said:

Andy
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Arry hit the nail on the head this morning when he was asked about Milner. He said that a club with lenty of money will need to spend a lot of money on one big signing so that clubs can then start spending, because noone has any money.

I think he made a freudin slip there. Selling Milner means we have money to spend at Spurs and then they have money to go out and buy too. Or it means we spend at Celtic and then Celtic spend at Spurs...! Whatever...lol smilies/grin.gif
Comment 162, made on July 26, 2010 at 5.43 pm

TheDiamond said:

TheDiamond
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I'm actually quite proud of the way O'Neill is dealing with this.

F**k city in my opinion. Ferguson screwed up big time in letting them get Tevez. Moyes got 24M for Lescott. Why can't O'Neill get the price he wants for Milner?

Fair play to him for putting it up city. "You think you can buy who you want? Okay, fine you can pay through the nose for English based players or you can buy overpaid, over-rated imports instead and good luck with that"

City won't win the league this season and sooner or later the cash bubble will burst or the idiot owners will get bored with their new toy. They're a joke-shop.
Comment 163, made on July 26, 2010 at 5.54 pm

.vogra said:

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Isn't it about time we actually tryed signing some god damn players?
Comment 164, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.08 pm

Al Vesta said:

Al Vesta
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Just a thought...

Milner hasn't actually said he wants to leave yet has he? I mean Milner himself, not someone else claiming that Milner's said something.

So what if Milner really has just been relaxing on holiday and actually does believe that Villa have got something good going now. Solid ownership, quality manager, stable squad, great fans. What if Milner really would like to stay and be a part of it for another few years? What if he thinks "I'll stay where I am because the club takes care of me and the fans have always appreciated me."

Then he starts reading around the internet in his spare time during the summer and finds comment after comment from Villa fans saying something along the lines of "F*ck off you spotty bastard", "greedy w*nker", "ungrateful p***k", "would be happy to see him gone".

He then comes back to work, gets told he won't be playing against Walsall, and maybe thanks the manager for the extra bit of extra rest, only to find out through the internet that he only would have been booed by thousands of Villa fans had he been involved anyway.

Booed for what? For having a fantastic season with Villa, going to the World Cup and then going on holiday? And somewhere along the line, Man City made a bid which was rejected. Christ, that Milner's been a right b*stard hasn't he? Best make sure he and his b*stard team mates understand that you can't behave like that and then expect to be able to play a relaxed game of football in a Villa shirt. Bloody hell, we might even risk winning something if our players feel relaxed and appreciated. Can't have that now can we?

So, yes, Milner has probably made up his mind by now.

(Yes, I've exaggerated it a bit. But I'm sure you'll get my point.)
Comment 165, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.14 pm

mickey86 said:

mickey86
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i started off thinking - either sell him or get him to sign a long term contract, now i just want us too sell him.

£12million plus stephen ireland and also santa cruz on loan for the season as a sweetner.
Comment 166, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.15 pm

Yadza said:

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James Milner has pulled on the villa shirt 90 odd times not once has he given less than 100% to the villa cause. And i still believe that would be the case, that's what makes him the professional he is, same goes for Gareth Barry when he was in the same situation a couple seasons back, only difference is Barry got another season in claret blue i very much doubt James Milner will. I salute both players for their professionalism, but it isn't for love of the club (a true villain) it's just a quality they both have, a princile if you will. The only true villans i have ever seen in my life time are Ian Taylor, Dion Dublin, Alan Wright, Stan Collymore, Lee Hendrie, Martin Laursen and Gabby Agbonlahor. And i must say we have some of the worst fans in the country, they love the club yet slag the club off something rotten and can't see the damaging effects. Most of them subsequently come from websites like this. The cancer of Aston Villa Football Club. Maybe i am to close to it to see how fans react games, but i have to say after visiting every single premiership ground in the country since 1998 i have never seen fans get on the players/managers back as much as the villa fans. Take Gabby for instance, in the game against Spurs at home a couple of seasons back, he gets ironically cheered off the pitch when substitued and this is one of the players who gives his all for Aston Villa and is one of the ones i described as a true villan. Again as i say i may be to close to it as a villa supporter myself, but fans on sites such as these need to take a back seat and let the people who know what they're doing run the football club. Because i tell ya the people who are running it are probably the best i have seen in the time i have been a fan and the supporters are starting to push them to the edge... Rant over.
Comment 167, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.39 pm

Genital Grinder said:

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Dan, do you do those pictures yourself? Quality!smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 168, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.40 pm

Yadza said:

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Oh and another true villain i missed.. John Carew*
Comment 169, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.46 pm

andy5759 said:

andy5759
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Hello everyone. It's just been reported that Milner has had "amicable" talks with MoN. Let's hope we can have this saga settled once and for all in the next couple of days.

This is an interesting read, and has rather hardened my stance on the keep or sell debate:

http://bleacherreport.com/arti...ach-other?

I now think that keeping him might be the best idea in the long run.
Comment 170, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.47 pm

DanWilson82 said:

DanWilson82
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Genital Grinder, yes I do, and I will be hanging my head in shame if Milner comes out and says he loves the club, all the great support and wants to sign for life... smilies/shocked.gif
Comment 171, made on July 26, 2010 at 6.55 pm

john doyle said:

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if mon dont accept ther 24mill he wont be sold for f**k sake mon take the money he aint worth 24 mill so get what you can if he stays he wont sign a new deal then he will leave next year for 10 mill same as barry Mon is a pratt and just dont lern fom his own balls ups its the same with the team this guy is just to much
man city will just offer something like 50 mill for fabragas who is ten times the player milner is or they will get some other world class player wake up mon if they back out you are f**ked ,with a player who dont want to play and no money for you to waste
Comment 172, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.16 pm

Greg Davillain1887 said:

Greg Davillain1887
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andy that's a hilarious articlesmilies/grin.gif you;d swear milner was god himself
Comment 173, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.23 pm

bobvillian said:

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MON SAYS MILNERS OFF TO PORUGAL ON WED HOPING TO FORCE A BID OUT OF M.CITY BEFORE WED.OF COURSE HE WANTS TO SELL OTHERWISE NO MONEY IN KITTY????
Comment 174, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.27 pm

bobvillian said:

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MILNERS GONE [GET OVER IT]
Comment 175, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.28 pm

john doyle said:

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Yadza
you have named only one true villan in your list martin larson
how can you name stan collymore the worst singing of all time a complete headcase 9 mill then jacked it in
grow up mate proper villains as you call them are gorden cowans
God tony morley melburg ,dwight york charlie atkinect the likes of these are true villans plus all the 80 81 squad and BFRS lot
Comment 176, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.30 pm

Tonebone said:

Tonebone
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http://www.betinf.com/england_transfer.htm

so there have now been 50 signings by premiership clubs this summer and still not one by our clown of a manager!! the season starts in less than 3 weeks and now fro certain any new signings wont be settled!!
Ransy sack this idiot now!!!!
Comment 177, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.51 pm

mikey18 said:

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If i was MoN i'd just take the gamble! Keep Milner for the remaining to years of his contract and after the end of the two years and hes 26 if he still wants to leave....let him leave! But hopefully by then we would of achieved something which might convince him to stay.
Comment 178, made on July 26, 2010 at 7.57 pm

dingbat said:

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Evening fellow mushrooms! Kept in the dark and fed on bulls--t!
Old one I know!
Only one thing missing from the whole sorry episode. Non of us are non the wiser!
Someone tell Mon and Lerner they are not Aston Villa!
WE the fans are!
Here before them and will be here after they have gone!
Tell us what is going on at OUR club!
Comment 179, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.11 pm

Yadza said:

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John Doyle...If you would have read it properly i said in my lifetime, I have never seen the 82 european cup team play in the flesh and how you can say Ian Taylor and Lee Hendrie wern't true villans is complete nonsense, the old cliche comes to mind "if they were cut open they would bleed claret and blue." granted i forgot Mellberg from the list, but you prove my point about the villa fans on this website, 'infectious diseases'. Oh and by the way come back and write a comment when you can spell, cheers! smilies/smiley.gif
Comment 180, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.13 pm

Craigy1874 said:

Craigy1874
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i've just e-mailed the club to complain about the disgraceful release dates for the new strip. what a f**kin joke, 4-5 weeks after the start of the season.

anyone else who is pissed off, e-mail them: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Con...65,00.html
Comment 181, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.14 pm

Yadza said:

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Oh and Dwight Yorke?? do me a favour.. you may aswell throw savo or bosko balaban in to the hat!
Comment 182, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.15 pm

frem said:

frem
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ok, if milner stays where do we get the money to buy a top striker, a killer pass midfielder and a holding player ? i wouldn,t be surprised if mon doesnt make any new additions this summer smilies/sad.gifsmilies/cry.gif
Comment 183, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.41 pm

vivavilla said:

vivavilla
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the season starts in less than 3 weeks and now fro certain any new signings wont be settled!!

Not this washed up ridiculous argument again...

The season is 40 weeks long, do you REALLY think missing out on a few weeks is going to make a difference? A player could sign midnight on 31st August, it won't mean anything.
Comment 184, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.43 pm

dingbat said:

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Yadza-Stan Collymore! Your obviously a fan of his from the radio!
How he gets away with passing comment on other players, with the talent he wasted is shocking!
Comment 185, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.51 pm

Yadza said:

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Stan Collymore always gave 100% for Aston Villa and was a villa fan making him a true villain, don't care what he did in the rest of his career or his private life.
Comment 186, made on July 26, 2010 at 8.58 pm

dingbat said:

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Rubbish! he was too busy with his own grudges! Like when he got sent off against Liverpool!!
Comment 187, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.06 pm

Tonebone said:

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Vivavilla - of course it will make a difference. every point ad game counts!
And in Villa's case it will make a huge difference as new players wont get in the starting line up now till probably ocober and thats not because we will be winning but simply cause MON has proven he is too stubborn to change his side!
Comment 188, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.07 pm

frosty said:

frosty
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Milner
05/06 40 apps 5 goals
06/07 53 apps 4 goals
07/08 32 apps 3 goals
08/09 46 apps 7 goals
09/10 47 apps 12 goals
Total 31

Ireland
05/06 28 apps no goals
06/07 29 apps 3 goals
07/08 39 apps 4 goals
08/09 50 apps 13 goals
09/10 35 apps 3 goals
Total 23

Assists lean even more Milners way, 29 to 17 over the past 4 years. Trying to use facts here rather than opinion for once.
Comment 189, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.12 pm

dingbat said:

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He is also as much a Villa fan as Craig Gardner!!
Comment 190, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.18 pm

Scott_Avfc said:

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i think the fans should just be patient, we all know Milner will go and we just have to trust O'Neill with who he replaces him with, this time last year every1 was complaining we made no signings then he got Dunne, Collins & Warnock and every1 was happy. this is our club at the end of the day, we could be in a much worse position.
all the people who are slating McGeady already are ridiculous, if he signs and scores a winner against blues will every1 be happy? i think so, we just need to give players a chance.
On the Milner front i'd take £18m plus Ireland, if not £28m and bring a new striker and midfielder. Just Be Paitent!
Comment 191, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.21 pm

dingbat said:

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So thats the level of our ambition now?
Beating the Blues!
Oh dear!!
Comment 192, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.27 pm

frosty said:

frosty
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McGeadys move to Moscow could be back on too..

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.u...37897.html

Comment 193, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.37 pm

AVsteve said:

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just read mcgeady in talks with sparak moscow. i know alot does not think he will cut it, but i think hes worth a shoot. the price in 9 million!! would prefer albrighton to be starting to be honest, but i dont see mon giving him a chance to i guess mcgeady is better than no one, cant have another season of downing witht the form he was on last season.

Wish MON would give marc a chance, he is quality, yet another player we will lose other wise!!!

UTV
Comment 194, made on July 26, 2010 at 9.58 pm

Leroy said:

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TheDiamond said:
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I'm actually quite proud of the way O'Neill is dealing with this.

F**k city in my opinion. Ferguson screwed up big time in letting them get Tevez. Moyes got 24M for Lescott. Why can't O'Neill get the price he wants for Milner?

Fair play to him for putting it up city. "You think you can buy who you want? Okay, fine you can pay through the nose for English based players or you can buy overpaid, over-rated imports instead and good luck with that"

City won't win the league this season and sooner or later the cash bubble will burst or the idiot owners will get bored with their new toy. They're a joke-shop.


Its futile.....MON trying to argue and prove a point to Man City is like a poodle going up against a pitbull. They are holding off so that we lose precious time in the transfer window. They have the money they are just screwing us of time.

For once cant we just have a well planned preseason where the group (including new players) can have time to gel and when it comes time to play, we hit the ground running....not once under MON´s reign have we had this.
Comment 195, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.05 pm

Falmouth Villan said:

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Cannot believe the shirts are not out till mid-sept thats just nonsense.The club should tell Nike to sort it or not bother this season! If the likes of Plymouth Argyle can get theirs out already it makes us look a laughing stock.Maybe we cant afford to pay for them?
Comment 196, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.17 pm

Scott_Avfc said:

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So if McGeady is getting slated all the time by so called 'fans' and goes and scores a vital goal you wont think he's a hero? Hmm.
Comment 197, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.25 pm

deero said:

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That post about the shirts not being out til Sept is a load of crap. Check out the dates on the Sports Direct website
Comment 198, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.36 pm

richie said:

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Part of me hopes that the Villa don't sign anyone and the kids get a run.

I know MON wants to sign players, I know it's sell to buy, I know the only hope we have of financing some good players is seeing a quality player like Milner get sold to City for tons of money.

But if Milner wants to stay, I think it's a testament that a good player who is getting attention from all over thinks he can still achieve at a club like VILLA. It's refreshing.

That said, I agree the squad could use a top quality striker. Heck, Get Yannick Djalo over here from Sporting Lisbon! He put in two scorchers against City the other day.
Comment 199, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.48 pm

Cannock Villa said:

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Deero, I wouldn't believe 'Pikey Sports', check the Official Villa website it's true! They are missing a big trick by getting them out so late, most people I know buy them before the season starts when enthusiasm is at its highest. A few iffy results at the start of the season and no-one will give a toss!
Comment 200, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.56 pm

Chater1703 said:

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to all those on about lack of transfers now means lack of team gelling, would you like to tell me when we signed collins, dunne and warnock??? their first match together was in september and i believe they went on to form one of the best defences in the league
Comment 201, made on July 26, 2010 at 10.59 pm

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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http://www.independent.ie/spor...3242.html?

interesting read on the interpretation on the meeting they had
Comment 202, made on July 27, 2010 at 7.53 am

Chiefy said:

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http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/6384519/

Downings Viral Video, Lets hope his delivers have improved like this smilies/wink.gif
Comment 203, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.27 am

Chiefy said:

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SWP been offered in the Milner deal smilies/shocked.gif
Comment 204, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.32 am

deero83 said:

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So where exactly on the AVFC site does it say they won't be released til September?!
Comment 205, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.38 am

deero83 said:

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Just spotted it. That's mad!
Comment 206, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.39 am

Maindog said:

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Chiefy....How do you know that?
Comment 207, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.49 am

Villa_Chris said:

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deero83

I'm not actually that fussed about getting the shirt right now but I think its really poor in terms of business. Why do they think its acceptable to bring it out so late? People love buying the new shirt and wearing it for the opening game of the season.
I can only imagine its a boo boo on behalf of Nike though. Shocking really.

Anyone know of a stream that will actually work for tonights game by any chance??
Comment 208, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.50 am

Chiefy said:

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Obviously our club is that laid back in runs the risk of falling over, signings late, shirts late jesus can our club do anything properly, just more evidence of piss poor management
Comment 209, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.52 am

Luckynumber7 said:

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Please - let that be one of those rumours that really are exactly that.

We do not need a winger that runs with his head down as fast as he can, only to deliver awful crosses to players that aren't in the box.

SWP is one of the most over rated English wingers in history.
Comment 210, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.52 am

Villa_Chris said:

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How come Arsenal can get their Nike kit this month? Piss take Aston Villa Fc.
Comment 211, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.52 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Chiefy....How do you know that?


Unlike Vijay I havent shared a room with MON nor have I spoke to Ian Wright, I have read it on a number of websites. Ireland is holding out he wants to stay or move to Utd or Liverscum so Ireland is not going to happen !. SWP does not feature at all in Mancini's plans hence he is being offered to us
Comment 212, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.53 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Aston Villa

Really straight forward guys. What you see is what you get. You might not get wined and dined and bowled over by these guys, but they will never cheat on you, and you will soon learn that they truly love you the most - after their team, that is.

Birmingham City

These men are a little more basic than their Brummie rivals. All those years letching after Karren Brady have take their toll. And so have all the pies and pints. The biggest thing about the average Birmingham City fan is unfortunately usually his belly.


Some woman has looked into football fans http://news.hereisthecity.com/...028.cntns?
Comment 213, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.55 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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We do not need a winger that runs with his head down as fast as he can, only to deliver awful crosses to players that aren't in the box


We have enough players that run with there heads down already ! smilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 214, made on July 27, 2010 at 8.58 am

Craigy1874 said:

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As i said above:

Craigy1874 said:
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i've just e-mailed the club to complain about the disgraceful release dates for the new strip. what a f**kin joke, 4-5 weeks after the start of the season.

anyone else who is pissed off, e-mail them: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Con...65,00.html


So e-mail them here: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Con...65,00.html
Comment 215, made on July 27, 2010 at 9.07 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Craigy -- doing it now smilies/wink.gif revolt !!!!! smilies/grin.gif
Comment 216, made on July 27, 2010 at 9.12 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Craigy -- link dont work
Comment 217, made on July 27, 2010 at 9.12 am

Luckynumber7 said:

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I do have some symapthy about those waiting for a shirt but if I'm honest I think they're a rip off. I'm happy-ish to pay 35 quid a game throughout the season, but when it comes to shirts I'd take last years at £15 every time.
Comment 218, made on July 27, 2010 at 9.15 am

Chiefy said:

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To Whom It May Concern,

I felt compelled to contact Aston Villa regarding my disatisfaction with the release date of our new kit. After purchasing my season ticket for the 2nd year I was looking forward to getting my hands on the new kit in preperation for the new season. Having now checked the offical site it seems we will not be getting the chance to by our shirt until September, why on earth not?

I am a little disheartend that I will not have the opportunity to by my teams new colours until the season has begun.

Us as fans have been offered no expliantion as to why we will not be able to by our teams new colours, like every other fan of ever other team in the premier league can.

I would appreciate it if someone could explian to me why I can not by the shirt of my club before the season begins, if at all possible.

My complaint email,,

Luckynumber7 - I am one of then people who will pay what ever so I can have the shirt, for me it has lost its appeal now and i might wait till the end of next season when they are £10 to get it purely because I cant have my shirt of my club before the bloody season kicks off its a joke,
Comment 219, made on July 27, 2010 at 9.34 am

craigy said:

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Well done chiefy mate exactly what is required.

For those who are not bothered about the shirt, its still the fact that we cant get it until after the start of the season and that is simply not acceptable. Has this ever happened before?
Comment 220, made on July 27, 2010 at 9.51 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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Craigy -- everything to do with the club at the moment smacks of piss poor management, we are meant to be one of the big gun chasers not one of the minnows who cant there kit out in time !!
Comment 221, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.08 am

Luckynumber7 said:

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just think how excited you'll be by the time it comes!
Comment 222, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.15 am

woody said:

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ok MON buys no new players before the season starts we struggle like f**k till january and then we`ll see how many players want to go then it wont just be milner off on his travels. then were really f**ked. at this rate blues will be finishing above us!!!
Comment 223, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.17 am

ak_27 said:

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Craigy -- everything to do with the club at the moment smacks of piss poor management, we are meant to be one of the big gun chasers not one of the minnows who cant there kit out in time !!


You are right. Surely revenue from shirt sales is part of whatever transfer funds are available? This is one of the biggest revenue earners and even if its not a huge slice of the pie it just doens't look professional to not have the new shirts available to purchase before the start of the new season.

Right now im totally disenchanted with Aston Villa for some reason.
Comment 224, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.17 am

Chiefy said:

Chiefy
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just think how excited you'll be by the time it comes!


The excitement would have gone and I will see no point in buying it smilies/angry.gif
Comment 225, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.20 am

Chiefy said:

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Ak_27 -- What gets me is that if I failed in such a manner in my job I would be gone, the sliver plating is beginning to chip and under it is what we have old seen before, I hope to god that I am wrong but cracks are beginning to appear! How hard is it to pick a design and get it made, Nike must have the ability to churn out loads, talking millions, of shirts so why is it taking so long and why did it take so long to be announced. Something is not right down a B6 there is either something big on the horizon or a strom is brewing, it doesnt add up, Randy aint got where he is by having piss poor management skills and at the moment that is what is shinning through like a beacon
Comment 226, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.28 am

Jedi said:

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Im wondering if the talks between Jimmy and MON were amicable and there is a posibility he could stay with the Villa, has Jimmy been told about possible tranfers that are happening or could happen in the next few weeks, because if it improved us that much and he stayed and didi his stuff then we could look pretty good this year.

How about this.

Keep Milner.

Wright-Philips - 5/6m
Ireland - 10m
Flamini - 5/6m
Raul - Free

( plus imagine what Gabby and the Fonz could learn from that guy.)


If Luke Young must go, then chuck in a right back and get rid of some dead wood to supplement the FXpro money and i would be quite chuffed with that going into the season.
Comment 227, made on July 27, 2010 at 10.35 am

leight said:

leight
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jedi...

the main problem at villa concerning transfers is not the fee its salary (apparently), so keeping milner and signing them 4 above sorry mate we have no chance..

this rumour bout the shirt release dates i cant find anything confirming this, does anyone have the link...
Comment 228, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.03 am

Chiefy said:

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Leight it is not a rumour it is on the main site
Comment 229, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.08 am

AussieLion said:

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I dont understand why so many fans are angry at Milner.

He or his agent havent come out and said he actually wants to leave. The only person who has said anything is MON.

For all we know he mught want to stay and MON wants him out.

All they have to do is offer him a new, good contract right away and then if he doesnt sign it, get rid of him for 25m. Better that, then getting 12m next year.


Also what has happened with Huntelaar? Did we even show any interest in him?
Comment 230, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.11 am

ak_27 said:

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the sliver plating is beginning to chip and under it is what we have old seen before, I hope to god that I am wrong but cracks are beginning to appear!


Yeah im beggining to wonder the same. I think things are maybe going stale for some reason.

Also i don't know if this has been discussed already but a strong Villa side lost to a Bohemians second string team on Sat. Now i don't know if you know how poor the Irish league is (its dreadful) but that result really shocked me. It may have just been a friendly but still to lose to a second string Bohs teams is really poor no matter what time of the year you play them.
Comment 231, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.13 am

leight said:

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chiefy

where is the kit date on the OS, have they hid it in disgrace..
Comment 232, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.18 am

Chiefy said:

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Ak_27 -- I dont get caught up it friendlies they are pointless games that are just a run around and a money making exercise or a favour to one of the players, DUNNE. There is nothing in any friendly that could or will give us a bearing on how the real team will fair against proper opposition. We have Walsall tonight and they will be more up for it than our lot are.

Its not that things have gone stale, its beginning to look at little to familiar thats all. I mean Randy has a track record of piss poor management of sports teams, Browns. Now I am not having a pop at him because I think his intentions are just, and so far what he has done is grand, but are the wheels beginning to fall off? has he taken on to much to soon? can he manage what he wants to do with us and does he have the capital, management skills and knowledge to be able to do it ?? It just seems as though the pre season havent got a clue merry go round as taken a different turn with the news that the supporters cant even by the clubs shirt till well after the new season has started, transfers we know are always late so thats no news but i am very surprised that Randy has let something effect the supporters as he is aware we are the life blood of the club and this will annoy many
Comment 233, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.28 am

doubledown9 said:

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Afternoon guys

Havent looked at this page in months, glad to see we are all getting along nicely.

AK_27

OK Villa lost to Bohemians, however, it is pre season, a Man U side with Evans, Nani, Scholes, Gibson, Giggs and Berbatov lost to a Kansas City team the other day.
Comment 234, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.29 am

VillaWerner said:

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from the os:
Martin Laursen has backed Gabby Agbonlahor to excel in the lone striking role - if Martin O'Neill elects to switch systems this season.

O'Neill has so far played a 4-4-1-1 formation in pre-season, with Ashley Young playing in the hole behind the frontman.


just got an erection. I think the next games are gonna be telling if Mon will go for a 4-4-1-1 next season. Or is this reading to much into it ? It`s early but Mon likes to set his team early.
Comment 235, made on July 27, 2010 at 11.35 am

Steve-o83 said:

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Whats the point in buying a shirt that is only current for a season a quarter of the way into that season. Our club is going up the wall, how do we ever expect to sign players if we cant get the bloody shirts released on time. STINKS!
Comment 236, made on July 27, 2010 at 12.03 pm

john doyle said:

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thereis only who is in charge at villa park Mon he sets the wages he says who is sold and who stays he is a controle freak untill this stops we will always be below the top clubs as every body makes mstakes even mon but no one has any controle of him he is just a lose cannon
Comment 237, made on July 27, 2010 at 2.14 pm

john doyle said:

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jedi
dont you under stand we will buy no one untill the wage bill gets cut by at least 25% or the club will go bust down to mons buys and the contracts he has given players in his last minute deals to get players in this is what happens when you leave it to the last minute like the clown mon is.
the players holds him to ransom as it is the last day and if he dont agree to there wage demands they wont sign .
this is why we are in the s**te down to his uselessness in the market even all you marmetts should be able to see this
Comment 238, made on July 27, 2010 at 2.29 pm

azza said:

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I don't think we need to much in the way of transfers theres alot to be said for unity and if you can keep the squad together and then thats a benefit then review the situation in january. remember only a 25 man squad is aloud and we don't want to push out the up and coming players.
Squad
Guzan, Friedel, Parish
Lichaj, Dunne, Collins, Warnock
Beye, Davies, Cuellar, Shorey
Milner, Young, Downing, CARRICK
O'HARA, Delph, Petrov, Albrighton
Delfounezo, Agbonlahor, Carew, Weimann
Clark and Bannan
Comment 239, made on July 27, 2010 at 3.03 pm

john doyle said:

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spain are diffrent grade even at u 19 level fonz is the best england player by a mile spain just pass for fun any body watching it on eurosport
Comment 240, made on July 27, 2010 at 3.48 pm

john doyle said:

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what chance have the england kids got with the likes on Nole Blake as manager the worst and biggest clogger ever to play the game trying to teach the kids how to play the FA need a complete clear out from the top down they just aint got a clue
Comment 241, made on July 27, 2010 at 4.16 pm

McParland said:

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Noel Edmunds could do a better job than Noel Blake in the young England set up.
Comment 242, made on July 27, 2010 at 7.24 pm

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