Written by Damian Wednesday, 03 February 2010 11:30
No news today yet, but if you didn't know, Aston Villa are the third favourites behind Chelsea and Manchester City to win the FA Cup at 5/1. Not bad odds those and with the news that we have Crystal Palace in the next round, you have to fancy our chances to progress.
I do, but I am always positive against teams in lower leagues, only because we should have enough and with our work rate, the odds should be in our favour. What I'm saying is that I expect us to beat Crystal Palace and think we will.
Milner for England Captaincy
I read an article today about Milner getting listed as a potential England captain should John Terry lose it or give it up and it did make me chuckle. Not because Milner was suggested but because the likes of Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney and Frank Lampard were also listed.
The modern footballer, earning huge amounts of cash and almost guaranteed to retire with several million in the bank, working 20 to 30 hours a week, has a lot of time on his hands and he is, when told that something leaves his system in 24 hours, going to dabble and if a fantastically beautiful pair of women throws themselves at his feet, is going to find it difficult to resist and he is going to break the rules of modern day society.
I'm not suggesting it is right, but some of these footballers are as thick as pig shit. Some don't care about getting caught, because they know it will be forgotten in a few weeks and it fundamentally isn't going to stop them still getting what they want or their life or how they live.
They know that the worst that is going to happen is the odd bit of abuse from supporters and you know what, they don't really care what we think anyway and like I've said, they know it will be soon forgotten.
I'm not saying what John Terry has done is right, I actually think it is wrong, but none of us should be surprised that this happened and none of us should think for a moment that it doesn't go on at every football club at pretty much every level in the country and that it will be going on today somewhere.
Just over ten years ago I sat in a bar with two football players and watched them systematically pop into the toilet every ten minutes. We all know what they were doing. After a few drinks and a couple of hours and when they were ready, all they had to do was phone someone to arrange a couple of girls to join them. I left them at about 8pm when they went back to their hotel rooms with the girls.
They were both married and had children. I know they are still both with their wives and I know both still do it, although neither are still in the game and it isn't as often any more, but they have nothing else to do and they have too much money.
What John Terry has done is wrong. He is a piece of shit for doing it but he isn't the first to be caught and he won't be the last. Should he lose his captaincy; I say you ask the team and with most of them probably getting up to the same thing, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority supported him. That is also wrong, but is for another post.
Question of the Day
So, that is the question of the day; should John Terry lose the England captaincy? Poll is to the right, or it will be soon and apologies if you are sick to death of this John Terry story, but we are going to find out soon if he does lose it and I'd just be interested to know what most thought.
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Chiefy
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... John Terry is an utter disgrace and should not be leading our country. He is a waste of space and should be sacked from England and Chelski he is an utter disgrace |
CSM
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... I think he should lose the captaincy, The guy is quality defender and should be in the starting 11. However the amount of stick he will get from fellow players and fans will be intense and having that to think about as well as being captain will be to much. I personally think JT should resign the captaincy himself, he is a role model to kids and ok what he does in his personal life should have no reflection on his footballing ability. We all know in england that is impossible. The guy is England captain and during the world cup if he is even seen out talking to another players WAG then all hell will be to pay and that just wont help the team. I think Roomey should be made captain. It will make Rooney concentrate on his temperment and hopefully help him not to blow up at the ref every 5 minutes. A quick question. Those of you with kids would you be happy with them walking round with John Terry on the back of their shirts?? |
tubbydunne
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... I don't give a sh*t about John Terry, Don't want to hear what depraved stuff he gets up to in his private life. Don't feel sorry for his wife, how thick is she to be still with him. I think Terry's father should be made captain of England. |
Damian
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... Who does it go to? Can't give it to Rooney or Fat Frank as they have done the same. Ferdinand is out also .. Beckham maybe, okay, no, can't. He did it also. Who else is there? Gerrard is an option .. maybe Peter Crouch .. |
Chiefy
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...I personally think JT should resign the captaincy himself, if he has any morals he should I think Roomey should be made captain. Totally agree all though EMULE could be in with a shout  A quick question. Those of you with kids would you be happy with them walking round with John Terry on the back of their shirts?? No, he is a major celeb/footballer and he has shown what is wrong with this country and the community its an utter disgrace. Who needs the Germans and enemies when you got JT in the team. If my kids had JT on the back firstly they would get told for not wearing claret and blue and grounded for life then secondly i would explain to the why this man is the scum of the earth and should be spat at and not looked upon as a person to aspire to |
keefvilla
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... Chiefy, don't hold back tell us what you really think of John Terry  Did anyone see the interview with Neil Warnock? Said he was looking forward to playing another long ball team, then burst out laughing. The England captain should be a leader of men, Terry is not, he's a coward who can't admit to his own mistakes. He still denies affair happened. Take responsibility for your actions you wimp!!! Gerrard should be captain or even Barry. |
leawaylittleman
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... CSM I agree about Terry losing the armband. I'd give it to Rio or Gerrard. I want Rooney to concentrate solely on firing us to glory, he doesn't need any other distractions. Terry is a great captain, but Cappelo shouldn't take any chances in what could be a great tournament for us. UTV !!!  |
Damian
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... Hold on a second. Didn't Rooney cheat on his girlfriend with a 50 year old prostitute? I'm only saying .. |
Chiefy
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...The England captain should be a leader of men, Terry is not, he's a coward who can't admit to his own mistakes. He still denies affair happened. Exactly !!!! Rooney was not leading our country at the time doesnt make it ok but he didnt have to lead our country be example did he |
Villa_Chris
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... Nothing wrong with that Damian! Chiefy, do you think he's a disgrace by any chance?!? |
Juan Pablo Angel
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... If you mucked about with a work colleagues wife behind his back there is every chance if your boss found out he might give you a b*ll*cking and demote you or something. I doubt he'd fire you from the ocmpany for it, especially if you were one of his best and most effective employees. He should lose the captaincy, because this is not the behaviour of a captain. If you want someone Bullish and tenacious give it to Rooney, If you want someone quiet and understated give it to Barry, If you hope the appaointment might get more out of the underperforming give it to Gerard, If you're confident in his fitness give it to Ferdinand If you want a national riot give it to the Mule And if you want to give it to someone who'll be an ever present over the next 15 years and grow into the role giving his all and never putting a foot wrong off the field then give it to Milner. There are loads of options and MIlner is a little premature really, but I think it would be foolish to let Terry get away scott free with this. No one else will punish him anywhere else and the Captaincy is such a token thing anyway. In Italy it simply goes to the player with the most caps. We make a fuss of it here and it would at least be something to appease the media and supporters, but without having any impact on the squad or starting line up. Warnock will go to the World cup now. There is no way Capello will risk taking Bridge and the prospect of a bust up in the camp. Excellent news for Stevie boy if he can stay fit. |
Chiefy
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...Chiefy, don't hold back tell us what you really think of John Terry hate the bloke never have liked him tosser |
CSM
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... Damian can you put a link to that story, don't think I have seen it. In that case give the armband to Lampard...oh wait he was caught cheating to!! ok Gerrard, oh wait hang on he was caught almost glassing someone in a pub! Rio then nope he was banned for elbowing someone and then banned for missing a drugs test. Um Ashley cole then...oops another cheater!! Glen Johnson....Stole a toilet seat!!! Looks like Barry it is then oh wait nope he would probably sell it like he sold himself short at Man City. Looks Like Heskey it is then! |
Juan Pablo Angel
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...hate the bloke never have liked him tosser I too always thought he was a nob. |
Chiefy
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...If you want a national riot give it to the Mule I can feel a petition coming on VOTE MULE !!!! love it |
rocky5
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... it wasn`t so long ago that gerrard was nearly locked up for thinking he was me `rocky` .probably go to ferdinand |
keefvilla
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... Villa_Chris had to read that 3 times before I realised he was talking about Terry (I think) |
Villa_Chris
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... Ferdinand is an excellent role model to crocodiles.... I mean, have you ever saw any other croc play footy?? |
Chiefy
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...Villa_Chris Terry  |
Juan Pablo Angel
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... I honestly think if you want someone squeaky clean it's Barry or Milner. I would give it to Rooney personally, it would get the public vote and then you just get Terry to do everything behind closed doors anyway and marshall the defence and Rooney wears the arm band and does interviews only....sh*t did I say interviews? no, don't give it to Rooney. |
ak_27
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... Its one thing having an affair as i would think 99% of footballers probably do but to go off with a fellow team mates wife is just the act of a scum bag. He's father is a scum bag, his mother is a scum bag and it looks like the apple hasn't fallen too far from the tree. All the women in London he could get and he goes for the girl friend of someone who was supposed to be his mate. Chiefy you are spot on about the guy. |
Chiefy
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...i`d make wayne bridge captain ok JT was out of order but Bridge is S"£T surely there is a line |
Pancho Villan
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... Thankyou Reverend Damian Frankly, I don't give a flying Burrito Brother who Terry sleeps with - and I suspect that, (Bridge aside and assuming this is not as Nan says a story to cover up a bigger one) neither do any of his team mates. Lets get back to talking footy, and leave morality to the Priest |
burberry prince
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... Can somebody tell me WHY he should be sacked rather than just saying "he is a disgrace and a piece of shit". What has he done that means he cannot captain the England football team? What's changed? I bet if most of you were to lose your job because you had an affair with a colleague's wife, you'd be straight on the phone to your solicitor for wrongful dismissal. I agree that footballer's aren't the brightest, but let's get it in perspective - they are not employed for their IQ are they? |
CSM
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... Team meeting at Englang HQ: Capello: "Right mans, I want thank you for coming in. I know lots traffic down by the bridge". A few Sniggers and JT starts to ge red! Capello has no idea why they are laughing QUIET! Now we here to talk about my captain. I have spoken to Mr Terry and he has stepped down from captain. A few murmurs and gasps from the team Capello: "Now we discuss who would like role?" Rooney: "Cheese for me boss" Beckham Whispers: "Wayne, He meant the captains role!" Rooney: "I will have JT's as well as long as it aint Tuna!" Beckham: "No Wayne he meant the next England Captian". Rooney: "oh.....We still get sandwiches, right?" Capello: Ok we vote, please write name on paper. James come give out paper Milner jumps up and rushes to the front and starts handing out paper and pens as fast as he can Everyone starts writing and folding pieces of paper Rooney Whispers to Beckham: "How do you spell Giggs?" Milner literally runs round the room and collects all the papers in and passes them to Capello. Nervous tension and murmuring start as Capello counts the vote .......... A few minutes pass then Capello stands up Capello: The new captain of England is........... Wayne..... Rooney: "Yes!!!" Capello: ".......Bridge!!" JT: "Sh*t" |
Chiefy
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...What has he done that means he cannot captain the England football team? What's changed The captain of the National Team should lead by example and be a true professional not a cheating dirty tosser like JT I agree that footballer's aren't the brightest, but let's get it in perspective - they are not employed for their IQ are they? neither are they to sleep with team mates girlfriends, as captain you are employed to be a role model to the team and supporters you are meant to represent the closet thing there is to a leader during the 90mins, now do you think any of the team now want to listen to him ?? respect him ?? they might but only because of fear that he will shag there mrs's |
Bakewell
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... 'Chelsea, wherever you may be, dont let your wife near john terry, his dad sells crack, his mum steals tea, he cries when he misses a penalty. ' |
Tommy
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... I would be more offended to see a nob like Gerrard leading the country. He is far worse than Terry in my opinion. |
tubbydunne
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... A Villa side to challenge for the title next season Keeper: Brad Friedel Right Back: Quality right back required(something not right with MON and L.Young) Left Back: Stephen Warnock Center Half: Richard Dunne Center Half: Carlos Ceullar Right Wing: Ashley Young Left Wing: Stewart Downing Center Midfield: James Milner Center Midfield: Quality holding midfielder required. Center Forward: Gabriel Agbonglahor Center Forward: Quality target man with a good strike rate Bench; Guzan Collins Lichajca Petrov Delph Albrighton Delfonesou |
Matt T
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... Cheating isn't moral or positive, but you can't sack someone for cheating. If you did, I imagine a whole portion of the country who work in offices would be out on their ear. Do you really want to see England drop JT? He wasn't voted captain in the first place because he was a useless centre half. As far as I'm concerned his private life is his own choice. He's a w***er for cheating, but he's employed as a footballer. All this nonsense about being a role model is just because the players earn money - should we start sacking MPs, CEOs and other such rich and influential people because they fail to keep it in their trousers? As Pancho said, morality isn't really a criteria for picking a person for a job. What matters is their ability to perform that job effectively. |
fripps
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... I know a lad who is good mates with Gabby - He said that Gabby and milner where sleeping with the same girl, one night on one night off! - I bet it happens at eveyr club! Its shocking!! If bridge deciedes not to play for England again, I bet its only because of the shit he'd get in the changin rooms!? |
CSM
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...Cheating isn't moral or positive, but you can't sack someone for cheating. If you did, I imagine a whole portion of the country who work in offices would be out on their ear. I don't think Terry should get sacked from playing football for England but don't he shouldn't be the leader of the players on the pitch. If you use your office analergy then it's like the Office manager shagging the wife of the Junior photocopier boy. The Office manager might not lose his job for this but as soon as word gets out that he cheated on his wife with the likeable photocopier boys wife then he will have no respect in the office and people will not trust the guy anymore. It would make sense for them to appoint a new office manager and find a new role for the cheating scumbag!!!! |
AVsteve
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... burberry price im a royal marine and believe it or not its sackable to get involved with a marines partner. gutted seeing some of then are utterly hot  UTV |
ak_27
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...Cheating isn't moral or positive, but you can't sack someone for cheating I don't think its really about the fact he has cheated on his wife but more about who's girlfriend it was that he went off with. Thats the point. To go off with a fellow team mates girl is unforgivable IMO and i would think many fellow players would feel the same. How can they follw this guy if they don't respect him? I say this as an Irishman who really couldn't care less how England get on in the summer but i think Capello really has no other choice but to remove Terry as captain. |
keithj
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... if a spectator, who pays the wages, in a tense, nail biting game was to make a racist statement he would be banned for life but the proffession has its own rules and they are wrong. i respected chelsea over the mutu episode and would respect them more if they did the same with terry, it would send out a message. respect chiefy |
vivavilla
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... Let his teammates decide? Why? The most obvious answer is to let the manager decide. Isn't that his job? |
Damian
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... we seem to be forgetting something here the bird didn't have a boyfriend at the time this happened. she was single |
CSM
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...CSM Sorry Damian I meant a link to the story about Rooney's misdemeaner! |
vivavilla
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... Exactly Damian. As far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with Bridge at all. Who cares if they used to date, the fact is they didn't when Terry was knobbing her. Essentially it was none of Bridge's business. Terry is an utter scumbag for doing what he did, but nobody needs to feel sorry for Bridge. |
doubledown9
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... I don't understand the English obsession with the captains role. In Italy it is just give to the most experienced player; in some countries the players vote. However, no mAtter who the nominal captain is, most of the England squad are or have been clubcaptains and if they are not leading on the pitch then they are not doing what they are supposed to. It does not matter who has the arm band, except in situations where a player must speak to the referee (rules out Rooney as you don't have to be an expert lip reader to tell he swears at officials). Man U have had about 7 different captains this year, with the most recent being Evra, shows what furguson thinks of the role. I would suggest Beckham, even if he does not play as a kind of elder statesman spokes person for press conferences and having a floating captain depending on who is fit, with Becks taking the armband if he plays. Even if they take the armband from terry he will still be the most vocal on the pitch. In the same way Barry was villas captain but it was NRCs cockey twang you could hear from the stands. In SA there will be a core of senior players, with a cumulatve well of top flight experience, who should all act as captains on the pitch; Beckham, Barry,Terry, James, Lampard, Gerrard, Heskey, Ferdinand, both Coles, Upson, Rooney, Carrick et al Just give the armband to the most articulate of them and let them all lead as they do week in week out in the league. One final example, John Terry is Chelsea's captain, yet much of what they do goes through Lampard? Does this mean Lampard is any less of a leader? Neville is Man Us captain but very rarely plays, does this deminish the roles played by Giggs and Vander Saar etc? |
Pancho Villan
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...[vivavilla said: |
James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini
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... I don't know what the problem is, everyone in football knows if a full back leaves a hole, it's up to the centre half to fill it?? |
Notforthefirsttime
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... If it's a problem just get rid of him. We can't have a man leading us into the next World Cup who nobody likes. And besides, it doesn't send a good message to the kids out there. Although as others have said, the favourite to take over would probably be Steven Gerrard... Meh, footballers and morals just don't mix... Therefore, I would like to see future pay correlated to righteous behaviour. |
James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini
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... Sung by the Hull fans last night to the tune of London Bridge is falling down… Mrs Bridge is going down, going down, going down, Mrs Bridge is going down on John Terry!! |
Villa_Chris
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...I don't know what the problem is, everyone in football knows if a full back leaves a hole, it's up to the centre half to fill it?? Ha ha brilliant |
The MIghty Steve
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... I'd imagine the captaincy could go to Rooney, Beckham et al because their discretions were not with a team mate's missus. It is this that is causing the problem and the question of leadership. Should it really go to GBH Gerrard though? Surely his act earlier this year was far worse than Terry's. TBH as has been echoed I think the role is just a showpiece and if Terry continues to lead on the pitch what different does it really make to anything. |
Graymo
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... I think most of these 'WAGS'know what kind of 'baggage' footballers bring with them to a relationship and still actively choose to be with them, whether it be for the money/ fame etc. They shouldn't really be surprised when it does happen. This behaviour seems to be part of the package. No one forced them to get involved with footballers. I'm not saying I agree with it, nor do I 'cheat' myself, but simply pointing out that in the life of a footballer it seems like a socially accepted norm. I think he should feel ashamed but keep the captaincy. |
ak_27
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...the bird didn't have a boyfriend at the time this happened. she was single I thought it happened when she was still going out with Bridge? If she wasn't then who cares. If she was single then Terry really only has to account to his wife an nobody else really. |
andy5759
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... I am enjoying the jokes and the distractions to Chelsea (drew with Hull Last night). His England captaincy is entirely a matter for Capello, I agree with the comments above about his ability now to command respect and compliance from his fellow players, but that is for Capello to decide upon. Captain or not, he is a low life, a low life succumbing to temptations which would try us all. Damian; can we have a Villa article later today please. This one is being done to death. |
Rios.Jockstrap
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...John Terry is an utter disgrace and should not be leading our country. He is a waste of space and should be sacked from England and Chelski he is an utter disgrace So if Wayne Bridges ex stripped in front of you uttering the words "oh Chiefy.....take me now!" You would say no, im married, and have to find Ashley Cole a new boyfriend? Listen, i think this whole Terry thing is a boring load of tosh, cos i have not yet met a man that would never say no, Married or not... Its what we were put on Gods earth to do  |
andy5759
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... I have just read the headline again; Palace in the FA Cup.... That game is likely to be a sell out and there won't be many tickets for away fans either, with only 26k capacity. So it's down the pub again. My local is charging £3 for Carlsberg and £3.50 for Kronenbourg! Anyone lend me a tenner? |
Juan Pablo Angel
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... When is the palsce game taking place? This'll be an interesting open game I reckon. It should be open and attacking and good to watch. We should have too much for them and hopefully we'll see Guzan, Fonz, Delph, Sidwell, Beye, Carew, Bouma and Davies all get a run out. Wholesale changes and a side that should still p*ss on them ha ha ha ha the beauty of strength in depth. ----------Guzan------------- Beye--Davies--Collins--Bouma Young--Sidwell-Delph-Downing ------Delfouneso-Carew------ This rotation malarky is awesome. |
Villa_Chris
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... Its on 14th Feb (Valentines and gf birthday!!) I promised Caroline (Wolves fan)that if Palace beat them, I would take her out as planned instead of watching the Villa v Palace game  That will be painful! Oh....and thats how you treat your loved one Mr Terry you scumbag! Oh well, recorder it is then! |
Chiefy
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...So if Wayne Bridges ex stripped in front of you uttering the words "oh Chiefy.....take me now!" You would say no, im married, and have to find Ashley Cole a new boyfriend? Yes i would i was brought up with MORALS and have 2 wonderful children and a wonderful partner not all of us think with our DICKS !! |
flowershopboy
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... I'm Irish and for years I've been baffled as to why the English Public put up with the press trying to destroy every big tournament campaign , by attacking the Players , I Dont care how much they get payed , they are still human , and it must affect them all in different ways. I am strongly of the belief that the English press go out of their way to dig up dirt on players , hoping that it affects them or the team badly , then use them as a scapegoat when ye lose on Pennos to the Argies or Krauts, the English Public should Boycott these papers until they agree to get behind the Team , no Matter what is going on behind closed Doors! |
Chiefy
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...I'm Irish and for years I've been baffled as to why the English Public put up with the press trying to destroy every big tournament campaign The press reported on this I believe a while back it wasnt reported as there was a gaggin order in place the JUDGES overruled the banning order allowing the papers to print there stories, it was not the papers they did there jobs and reported the courts lifted the order |
Villa_Chris
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...Yes i would i was brought up with MORALS and have 2 wonderful children and a wonderful partner not all of us think with our DICKS !! Well said Chiefy! |
ak_27
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...I've been baffled as to why the English Public put up with the press trying to destroy every big tournament campaign It does look like this looking from the outside. They seem to start looking for extra scandal relating to footballers in the approach to big tounaments. |
Chiefy
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... Terry is a dick he thinks because he is England Captain and because he is this great defender he can swan around and do what the hell he likes pretty much like most, not all but most, footballers. He needs to be made an example of to stop this type of thing going on. Kids look upto to these guys and think its ok to do some of the things they get on with, teenage pregnancies and multiple fathers ?, its wrong plain wrong. Its not like they are forced to do these things they CHOOSE to and they should no better ok they are not that clever but there is RIGHT and WRONG and surely they are not that stupid that they dont know which is which ?? or is it beacuse they have money they buy themselves out of trouble the kids that look up to them do the same but they dont have the money to do that so then you have kids without fathers and women with loads of kids at a young age it goes deeper than just some poxy footballer cheating its someone who should set an example for people to follow |
CSM
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...Yes i would i was brought up with MORALS and have 2 wonderful children and a wonderful partner not all of us think with our DICKS !! Chiefy's partner is lovely! Just kidding I am happily married and have a beautiful daughter adn would not cheat on them for all the Wags in china! |
Pancho Villan
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...ak_27 said: You are right - and lots of people on here need to grow up It's John Terry cheated on his wife, not Adolph Hitler |
Chiefy
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...It's John Terry cheated on his wife, and that shows a great example to kids doesn't it then the kids leave school and get girls pregnant cant afford to keep the child turn to crime or drugs and then society gets into the mess its in now !!! and all because someone who was in the public eye and should be an example to children and everyone else decided it would be a good idea to cheat on his wife and kids -- i applaud |
keithj
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... chiefy although i 100% agree with you youre fighting a losing battle, people only care if it affects them. if he screwed one of our star players wives and that player refused to play again every post would reflect your feelings |
Villa_Chris
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... Just read this on a Blackpool forum..... Speaking to a mate who's a backroom coach for O'neil and he said they don't need him and may look at offloading him anyway end of the season anyway... The loan spell has done him good because it's given him first team football and an opportunity to improve in the 'hustle and bustle' of the championship. Apparantly, he's not needed ! I wonder if its true? |
flowershopboy
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... Papers did their Job's , me Bollox! papers job is to report news and sport , not who's ridin who , if he killed the bitch , then i'd want to know , but this is his business not mine or yours! , anyway my whole point is, its coming up to the world cup and this is not the only scandle they'll print before it to unsettle the players , and the English Public should put do something , the Press over there have taken it too far for long enough! |
Chiefy
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... I do agree the media try to rip us apart before we kick a ball, but that wouldnt happen if these so called professionals who get paid obscene amounts of cash didnt give them any amo to do it |
CSM
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...your only saying that for a free SNOOD You got me!! Thats the problem with our society, cheating is seen as sociably acceptable in some peoples eyes. Has no one got any moral standards anymore. When John Terry's kids and Wayne Bridges kid grow up they will probably find out about all of this. What kind of example will that be for them! Just because they earn a ton of money for having a gifting in football doesn't mean they shouldn't be made responsible for there actions. Do you think Tiger Woods will ever become ryder cup captain now??? John Terry needs to step down and take the decision away from Capello! |
Juan Pablo Angel
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...I wonder if its true? Sounds like wishful thinking from Blackpool fans to be honest mate. They're desperate for him as he has done very well there, but the reports I read suggested that MoN wasn't initially that keen on letting him out again because of the injuries to Warnock, Coker and Albrighton and the fact he just let Gardner go. Apparently it took some persuading from Holloway just to get him for another month. There is also the fact that he's in the middle of penning an exte4nsion to his contract so I reckon this 'my mate washes MoN's best mates cats scrotum' amounts to the square root of nothing. Was the guys name Vijay by any chance? |
Bouma is back!
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... Chelsea, Wherever you may be, Don't leave your wife with John Terry. Cos he likes a shag, he likes a bit of fluff, And he'll get your missus up the duff. |
andy5759
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... Once upon a time the press had morals almost equal to Chiefy's! For example; Doris Day was portrayed in the press as being a squeaky clean paragon of womanly virtue. When in actual fact she was a right raver. Nobody thought it was either right or proper to tell that particular truth. The press today are only a reflection of the base appetites of their readership. Enough already! Let's talk Villa. |
Pancho Villan
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...Once upon a time the press had morals almost equal to Chiefy's! For example; Doris Day was portrayed in the press as being a squeaky clean paragon of womanly virtue. When in actual fact she was a right raver. Nobody thought it was either right or proper to tell that particular truth. The press today are only a reflection of the base appetites of their readership. ^^^ This ^^^ |
Holte_ender_4_life
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... No question about it England captain should be Gerrard. That is a no brainer for me, he is by far the best leader in the country. No one else could do what Gerrard has done for Liverpool. Does the Champions League Final ring any bells, and the F.A Cup final against West Ham. Gerrard is just born to be captain, and he should have got the job ahead of Terry anyway. |
Juan Pablo Angel
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... If Gerard had nobbed Bridges other half he would have smacked her with a pint glass aswell just to top it off and then had the whole thing overturned and got off scott free anyway. Short memories, would anyone have given him the England captaincy when he was in the middle of that court case?? |
SCOTT1
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... yeah but holteender,although hes played out of position,gerard plays whack for england!on the flipside though it could be just what he needs. |
Matt T
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... Keithj matt Getting done for ABH is a bit different to sleeping with a girl who was single. Just because the guy is a cheat, doesn't make him a criminal. As for John Terry vs Joey Barton - if we had the chance to buy JT (not that we ever will), we'd have him in an instant. I wouldn't want Barton even if he didn't have his record. CSM If you use your office analergy then it's like the Office manager shagging the wife of the Junior photocopier boy. The Office manager might not lose his job for this but as soon as word gets out that he cheated on his wife with the likeable photocopier boys wife then he will have no respect in the office and people will not trust the guy anymore. Do you think every single affair gets found out? I don't think so. As for people cheating in offices, it's far from rare. I'm sure there are plenty of people who know managers at work who have affairs, and have no respect for them, but it's not always the case that they get moved to other roles. In an ideal world, people would act to some set of solid morals, but the fact of the matter is most of today's press is based on sex, because sex sells. I mean for god's sake, people buy OK/Heat etc in droves and none of that is really news is it? I'm sure Terry won't be the first sports captain/role model to cheat on his partner, and won't be the last. I don't condone cheating, and never have cheated, but if Capello thinks he's the right person to lead England, then I support his choice. |
ak_27
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... To be honest i think England should just pull out of the world cup altother now because of Terry and let Ireland take their spot. |
Rios.Jockstrap
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...Yes i would i was brought up with MORALS and have 2 wonderful children and a wonderful partner not all of us think with our DICKS !! Fair play chiefy, but would you have to think twice about it? I have morals, a beautiful wife and 4 beautiful but very loud kids, and i have to admit that i would definately give her one, if i was so lucky to be asked However, dreaming apart.... Terry is still a t**t, and i find it unbelievale that the sexy bitch at the centre of this, was plotting with a certain Max Clifford (how i hate that tosser) on how she can make a lot of money out of selling her story... Duped comes to mind. On Villa... I think the only problem we have of getting past Palace, is their pitch!!! Did you all see how the Ball was bobbling about on it last night, so not an occasion for beautiful football. Use our pace down the flanks and get them crosses in! |
Matt T
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... ak LOL The part of me that's Irish would go for that deal. Whole thing's been blown out of proportion don't you think - what people do in their private lives (and without the press, we wouldn't know any of what's happened - they cultivate it offering people money to sell their story) is their own choice, so long as they don't break the law. Perhaps it's more of an argument that the newspapers should actually start reporting news rather than who's sleeping with who... *sigh* |
Juan Pablo Angel
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...if we had the chance to buy JT (not that we ever will), we'd have him in an instant. I'm not sure MoN would We have a monster of a reformed alcoholic anyway, I'd fancy Dunne in a fight to the death with Terry. He'd gash his throat open with a broken Kaliber bottle |
Matt T
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... Juan Pablo We have a monster of a reformed alcoholic anyway, I'd fancy Dunne in a fight to the death with Terry. He'd gash his throat open with a broken Kaliber bottle Ha ha ha ha ha - that actually made me laugh out loud |
Badger
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... It's a trickey one isn't it? My take is that I blame the tart for going with a married bloke. It is hard to resist when it's offered to you and The result was the bloke (JT in this case) and his missus split up, but the two blokes in question still remain best friends. Which makes me think this was going on while Bridge was still with his missus. Here, the question is simply who would be the worst player to lose? I suspect Capello will say JT, as although I can't stand the bloke, he is very good and has that fighting spirit that I think we would miss. So my decision would be Bridge out, JT stays, but has to lose the armband. In which case, I don't care who gets it, because any choice will imo be inferior. I doubt very much the other players will be that bothered about the issue, as, as has been said, you can guarantee they've all done exactly the same. |
Jimbo Daventry Villa
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... I personally thought he was bang out of order for his shocking behaviour. Then I saw her |
Chater1703
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... to be fair, if Bridge refuses to go to the World Cup, the space will go to a better Left Back in Warnock |
holteend paul
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... the president of france has done it, the president of the usa has done it prince charles has done it and god knows our own john major was knobbing the egg woman! lets get things into perspective here, John terry is a football team captain! simple nothing more nothing less, so lets get over it. and if bridge does quit the england fold then it could only be good news for our warnock! and by the way this woman had slept with four previous chelsea teammates of terry's so is a bit of a slag anyway.. |
Badger
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...Then I saw her I know, she's well fit. But it comes back to what was said earlier, about all the women he could have chosen. Have you seen some of the birds that frequent the trendy London hotspots gagging for a chance to drape themselves over a top footballer?  This suggests to me that there was probably a pretty strong emotional attachment. In which case I can't see his missus letting this one go. Not if she's got anything about her, anyway. I'm still minded to agree with Pancho and Churchill, where they suggest it's a story to cover a bigger one. And as for that bloody Max Clifford, that would definitely be a firing squad job if I had my way. He makes a fortune out of people's misery  |
Badger
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... Bit of an aside, but it seems the stories about Matt Etherington's gambling are true; http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/...ngton.html All the money he must have earned and the knob is £800k in debt. What a criminal waste. |
Proxopera
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... Regarding Wayne bridge , I reckon he's a highly overrated player and from the few press clippings i've seen of him he appears to be a complete grasshole . Thing is .. I feel really sorry for him as he is going to be completely crucified by opposition supporters for the rest of his career when he's done absolutely nothing wrong. I reckon , to save any shred of dignity left , he needs to , at a high publicity event , offer Terry his hand in forgiveness .... and then loaf 'em ! He'd be the f**k**g Zidane of England . As for Terry being captain , its not about succumbing to temptaion , its about respect for the position . Did Alan Shearer ever appear in the paper for anything that was'nt related to football , or pearce or butcher ?? Its your national team boys , with the best chance of a world cup in 20 years. |
Chrisodon
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... Who honestly cares ?. He's done the dirty like many have and yet the press and some people are speaking like he's raped and killed her. He shouldn't be stripped of either captancy as there's no one better to lead england. Also the teams full of cheats and f**k-ups. James - Drink & Drugs, Terry - Muff diver, Ferdinand - Drugs, A.Cole - Prostitute lover, Beckham - Muff Diver No 1, Gerrard - A glorified thug, Barry - Less well known muff diver, A.Young - Webcam Voyeur, Rooney - Same as but likes them older. So there's only two honest players left The Mule & Whoever our Rb will be. |
Rios.Jockstrap
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...and by the way this woman had slept with four previous chelsea teammates of terry's so is a bit of a slag anyway.. Anybody know her phone number? Just out of curiosty you understand..umm |
Rios.Jockstrap
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...Regarding Wayne bridge , I reckon he's a highly overrated player and from the few press clippings i've seen of him he appears to be a complete grasshole Seen and heared something on the TV the other day that he has the support of most of his team mates.... The rest i guess, have also given her one |
MartinOneillatemyhamster
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... Ashley Cole got done for doing 130mph last week. When asked why he was going so fast, he replied.."I've heard John terry's car is parked outside my house" Jokes get around so quickly these days so if you have heard it already ... |
Proxopera
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... Chrisondon , I take your point but i would'nt really call Gerard a thug and i think he's a much better candidate than Terry..,not that it matters much to me as i aint English ,but is the whole thing not getting kinda like that Ricky Tomlinson flick ?? |
Chrisodon
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... Gerrard is a thug alot of his earlier days on the pitch was littered with two footed tackles, Plus i'm sure he's been in court twice over assault charges. But yeah it is kinda like that film. |
Rios.Jockstrap
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... Wayne Bridge sent his misses a replica of his Dick made from Cadburys chocolate. She said she prefers Terrys! |
Proxopera
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... Has'nt every bloke in England not been in court twice over assault charges?? ,,,honestly you lads take this kind of thing way too seriously? Joking aside , it would seem that if your exceptionally talented ,two footed tackles are seen as a 'symptom of frustration' rather than anything intentionly malicious....whereas the rest of us just get sent off for being hatchet-men! |
Badger
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...Gerrard is a thug alot of his earlier days on the pitch was littered with two footed tackles, Plus i'm sure he's been in court twice over assault charges. And he cheated us out of a result at VP with that dive. That's good enough for him to not get the job, in my book Plus he's been shite lately anyway. |
Proxopera
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... Badger , Imagine ..england down 3-0 at half time to the hun in the world cup final ,,... who would be the most likely to lead the charge in the second half?? It aint gonna be Terry....... |
andy5759
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... How many first team players do you think MoN will rest for the Palace game, and who do you think he call up? This could be a good opportunity to show the rest just how afraid they will need to be next season. |
MartinOneillatemyhamster
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... I think giving it to Heskey would be a great idea. A top professional and great role model for the younger players. I doubt Emile is a massive figure in the dressing room but the England captaincy is more about a Tailsman figure that will lead by example than somebody who will shout and bawl. Such as Golden balls. As for Terry I find it insulting that this guys ugly mug is spread across the front pages of the tabloids detailing his sordid social life. Especially when better men are coming home dead or wounded from Afghanistan every week. I don't want to know where he is sticking his dick thank you. and of course he shouldn't be England captain! Never should of been in the first place. |
tubbydunne
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... A strong team against Palace I hope, can't leave a chance of getting to the quarter finals behind us. With a lot of the big teams gone and they draw being kind to us so far this F.A. cup is getting exciting. Beat Palace and avoid Chelsea and we are laughing, c'mon Leeds. |
Kaz
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... I'm guessing that 27th Feb when Chelsea host Man City will be an interesting day then eh? We can watch a big punch up on Saturday and then watch the Villa win the cup on Sunday, perfect weekend really :-) And Badger.....is this the same mucker that I used to banter with on avforums? :-) |
andy5759
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... tubbydunne; I reckon you're right y'know. The kids have had their fun in the League Cup, the chance of a double is just too good to let go. Maybe just one or two players rested; one of the wingers for Albrighton and bring Collins into defence. I would say stick with Friedel, he will be motivated to get his day at Wembley if Guzan is in the LC final. |
andy5759
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... Kaz, I hadn't realised what a great weekend that could be! I think I will need to start saving up for it! |
bradz
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... everybody that wants him sacked should get a grip...this country is way too politically correct, health and safety mad and its even sadder that we are talking like bit chairs about a dude and his private life, England captain or not!! |
Villa4Life11
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... Does anyone know if we're gonna be wearing our home or away kits for the Carling Cup Final since Man Utd wear red too? |
Badger
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...who would be the most likely to lead the charge in the second half?? It aint gonna be Terry....... I can't think of any better for motivating players? His tantrum at VP demonstates his passion, for example. Maybe Rooney, but given his IQ of -5, no, imo. How many first team players do you think MoN will rest for the Palace game, Hopefully very few. It's not a time for messing and I doubt he'd change more than one for this. I'd do my fruit if he changed it massively and we went out. They've just beat Wolves, a team that we could only get a point against remember. http://astonvilla-views.com/20...-tickets/? Stupid greedy kid. But who at that age is going to knock back an easy 2K?. I think they've responded correctly, but would probably have added a 5 year ban on him getting tickets. |
Badger
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... KAZ, And Badger.....is this the same mucker that I used to banter with on avforums? :-) Very well could be, depending if I've upset you or not So you've finally found us, me old mate Nice one. |
frosty
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... I keep saying it's the end of a generation, Ferdinand, Terry, Gerrard and possibly Lampard need to make way... the dream is almost over for them and they sure as hell won't lead us to world cup glory.. they've had enough chances and looked incredibly average against world class opposiion. I believe there is a random English lineup out there who could upset most, but sadly we won't see it. John Terry has always got away with being an average defender because he will stick his head on anything. |
Badger
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... So Leeds got shown up today for being incredibly slow in their game (defenders just not sharp enough) imo. Anyway, I've just seen the draw listed on ITV and it looks really tasty. Many slip ups to be had and it just shows how the top 4 are ruining everything. |
not so loyal
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... Brillant comment in the sun!!!! There was once a very high profile person who cheated on his wife with a friend of the family after a few clicks the problem went away due to the influance that he had, it was all forgotten, he then went on to be come the king of England if this is good enough for prince charles it is bloody well good enough for john terry |
Pat The Rat
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... Anybody out there think we CAN WIN @ the Spurs on Sat nite,i'd hope Mon has the team bouncing 2 get @ them 4 the 3 points,i'll go 4 a 3-2 win 2 the Villa & a 1-1 Draw with Utd next Wed's nite. |
SuperBox
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... I don't care about Terry, he's employed to play football, and captain England. What he does off the pitch is irrelevant unless it affects the above. If you're looking for an England captain who has never broken the law or done anything morally questionable, you'll be looking for along time. Blaming JT for the decline in moral standards of the youth of today as taking it a bit far. How much he earns is not relevant in this debate either. Expecting the England captain to be a moral beacon is also a bit of a big ask. Do I condone what he has done, no. Is it getting blown out of all proportion, yes. If you were demoted/sacked at work for having an affair, and it being splashed across the papers you'd be down the employment tribunal quicker than Gabby to a through ball... Do I like it, no. Is it life, yes. |
Badger
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...Anybody out there think we CAN WIN @ the Spurs on Sat nite I do. They aren't anything special. This one depends on who turns up to be the best on the day, simple. We could cane them and they could cane us. It's very even, is what I'm saying. It has a draw written all over it though. 2-2 is my early prediction. |
frosty
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...There was once a very high profile person who cheated on his wife with a friend of the family after a few clicks the problem went away due to the influance that he had The royals are a collection of nazis and Belgians who hid during the war.. never had the heart to tell me nan that though. i'll go 4 a 3-2 win 2 the Villa & a 1-1 Draw with Utd next Wed's nite That's why you never see a bookie on a bike |
avfcbob
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... I thought this was a Villa Blog because some of you should go on that t**t Jermry Kyle show if you want to discuss the ins and outs of J.Terry shagging exploits For f**k sake lads lets talk about the great Aston Villa and put this shit to bed UTV FOREVER |
Badger
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...Blaming JT for the decline in moral standards of the youth of today as taking it a bit far. How much he earns is not relevant in this debate either. You're right, it's not fair to blame him, he's only an everyday bloke who has decidedly dodgy mentors (in his parents). Expecting the England captain to be a moral beacon is also a bit of a big ask. This is where I disagree. If kids can't look up to the England football captain, who can they look up too?. In that sense I'd definitely give it to Heskey, even though he isn't fit to lace Rooney's boots as a striker. |
Badger
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...For f**k sake lads lets talk about the great Aston Villa and put this shit to bed Go on then, what have you got to say that's new? There's nowt happening, hence this shit. |
Chiefy
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...Blaming JT for the decline in moral standards of the youth of today as taking it a bit far. How much he earns is not relevant in this debate either. I dont blame him and him alone but JT and other as a collective have a negative impact on the morals, standards and exploits of the youth of today hence having an adverse effect on the community. Expecting the England captain to be a moral beacon is also a bit of a big ask Why the most watched sport in the world followed by kids throughout the land and the leader of our international team should not be the ultimate professional ?? course he should he is what our children want to emulate and strive/dream to be so therefor these people should be the ultimate professionals they have children all over the country idolising them so they have an influence on the children of today no matter how small |
Dinky
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... Don't see what this affair has to do with his captaincy to be honest. He's captain because of his leadership qualities and footballing skill not because he was family man of the year |
James Collins is the ginger Paolo Cesare Maldini
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... Looks like Warnock is out for another couple of weeks. Very bad news, with Spuds and Man U coming up. Just hope he's fit for the final. |
Chiefy
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...Come on Damo, get a new blog up I agree Pancho At the end of the day us lot have no influence or say on the matter as to what happens so it doesnt matter |
Chiefy
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...Looks like Warnock is out for another couple of weeks. Very bad news, with Spuds and Man U coming up. Just hope he's fit for the final Shame Bouma wont be back, lookslike Luke Young will be over that side with Cuellar at right back |
ak_27
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... http://astonvilla-views.com/20...y-tickets/ Was it anyone on here that bought the tickets? |
Chiefy
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...... Nope werent me. Handled nicely by the club though |
Chiefy
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... We have a decent ref for the final who isnt in Fergies club either thats good news Phil Dowd |
ak_27
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...Nope werent me. Handled nicely by the club though It was in fairness. He really hung himself though. To go posting on facebook about it. |
SuperBox
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... Badger, Chiefy The main problem is, too much, too young. The fame, adulation, money, agents, sponsors etc, mean these players have lost touch with the 'real' world. Fergie has got it right, keep them under control and out of the papers untill they are mature enough to handle it. |
Chiefy
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...The main problem is, too much, too young. The fame, adulation, money, agents, sponsors etc, mean these players have lost touch with the 'real' world. Just like the JAM said "done to much, much young" totally agree |
Kaz
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... I think if Lennon turns up and plays to the best of his ability, we might have problems, otherwise I think we'll be ok at Spurs. I believe Lennon is still crocked though so we only have to deal with Bentley, who does seem to be slowly getting back to his best. I think Bouma needs another reserve game and a run out against Palace before coming back into the 1st team, if he can get a couple of games before Wembley, then why not play him. Our real big test is Man Utd at home, and Man Utd in the final. Rooney is on fire, but if we can stop the midfield getting the ball to him, we could nick it. |
mjasghar
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... OK 2 things 1: As I told you all, it was Avram Grant in that brothel ... haha (see the Sun). With all the stress at Pompey, those Thai girls must be suffering RSI!!! 2: True tale about Terry. He went with his wife to a Lebanese resturant. All the peopel start talking about him and he sits up with his chest out (winker). He then says I want burger and chips, makes a fuss and ends up with the chef coming out and then groveling to JT. Tells you all about him - he delibertely wanted to expoit his fame to show off. once a chav, always a chav. |
StickyAV
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... "These footballer are thick as pig shit" So because they happen to play football they are thick as pig shit are they? Slight generalisation there. Loads of balls if you ask me. |
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