Tuesday, 14 February 2012 09:40
I'm a simple person. I don't pretend to think too much but I rarely think too little and I'm not going to try and blow smoke up your arse or for a moment let you think that you are blowing smoke up mine. Actually, when someone does try to blow smoke, alarm bells tend to ring.
At the same time, I must confess that football isn't a difficult game and it certainly isn't rocket science. I'll hold my hands up though and happily accept that managing a club, in terms of actually running the entire business, isn't going to be a walk in the park. Sure, mistakes are going to be made, nobody is perfect even if they think they are, but it's how they are fixed that counts.
But I'm starting to think that someone at the club isn't big enough to admit they've made a mistake. I wrote about Randy Lerner admitting to mistakes at the turn of the year, I'm starting to think now that it is Paul Faulkner that has to take decisive action and show his boss that he can make the big decisions.
It isn't supposed to be easy
And I'm I'm not saying that managing a group of multi-millionaire players is an easy job and I suspect that Alex McLeish is a very likeable man, but what is happening at our club, is not a coincidence, he simply isn't very good at managing teams in this league and everything, absolutely everything, points to that.
Reiteration carries conviction
So, let me ask a question. Does someone somewhere think that it's because he hasn't had any money or not enough time? Does someone think, if he gets more it will get better?
Is there still someone out there that thinks he never really got a proper chance at The Clowns after relegating them twice, playing pretty much the same football that we are now getting served up week in week out?
Does someone somewhere really still think it is going to get better? I can not for a moment accept that there is but if there are some people deluding themselves that it will, they need to shake themselves out of it, because we have now gone past the point of an acceptable mistake.
Somebody could have gotten away with 'we wanted to give him a chance' at the start of the season, as there was, a very small chance that the two seasons he took them down were just fated upon a small time club with no prospects, but because they are a small time club, they have no prospects and they can only go get managers wanting an entry into the Premier League.
There is a reason why Alex McLeish ended up with them. There is a reason why he relegated them twice.
I'm baffled, I really am
I'm sorry for going over old ground, but until this manager is gone, this is what is going to happen, with the football and with the results. We will win one out of every four and we will lose one out of every four and we will draw one out of every four.
You decide what happens to the fourth game - it can go any way but the win, because this manager wins only one out of every four. The fourth is a fifty-fifty between defeat and draw. It is the Alex McLeish way.
Once again, football isn't rocket science. There is a reason why certain managers win games and silverware and while I grant you that players are involved, the manager is the biggest single influencing factor and our managers influence is based around not losing and that simply isn't good enough for Aston Villa.
John Barnes has said it. Dwight Yorke has said it. Ian Taylor has said it. Many others have said and will say it. It appears there is only one person that needs to hear it and there is only one person that can make it happen.
Alex McLeish must be removed and the owner must do it soon. Not because of protests involving forty people and not because we might get relegated (we wont, the numbers say so), but because there is no coincidence and we find ourselves exactly where we find ourselves because of the manager.
Alex McLeish must be removed to bring unity back to the club. Alex McLeish must be removed so the owner stands a chance of keeping some of the good faith he has generated over the past few years. Alex McLeish must be removed so they show they understand Aston Villa Football Club.
This is not about where he came from - that only guaranteed him less time. This is about the football. This is about pride. This is about what we stand for.
Over to you Mr Faulkner. Every one can see what needs to be done and supporters accept that Randy Lerner might not - but this is where you have to play the role of CEO and make the tough calls.
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swissvill11
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... you are right damian.....he must go!!!! AM, please go..... it's not where you come from, it's your style of negative football!! And now go.... i'm disappointed from the fans. we are not a unit. my opinion is, that he has to go!!! and i hope i'm not alone!! who is with me??? |
Maindog
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... The thing that worries me is that across the pond, our friends in Cleveland have been frustrated with the way their NFL club is bein ran for years now! I back Randy and always have, but he needs to step on this bug pretty quickly, or else myself and others who still like the guy, will start to lose faith. Do the right thing Randy. |
windofchange
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... McLeish has to go there is no point waiting until the end of the season it just might be too late and we would not want a 3rd summer fiasco of searching for a manager. The problem for me would be who we brought in, Randy would, I am sure not want to pay compensation so that leaves the usual suspects the one's we want will still not come for the same old reasons - transfer kitty or lack of it. Simply sacking the man is the easy bit but as we know only too well choosing an adequate replacement is difficult - whilst we all want the same thing we should be careful what we wish for, especially with the idiots we have picking our manager. |
steve in ireland
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... Damian, you are right. Most of us thought that he shouldn't get the job for just the reasons you have stated - he is not a EPL manager and he is certainly not an AV manager. Whilst most agree he should go, how do we make this happen, because an fool/fools that appoint a manager like this are not going to have the sense to sack him, the b*lls to sack him or the b*lls to admit they were wrong. I despair at where we are going. As regards the numbers I point to Blackpool who after the same games us had similar points and still went down. And even if we stay up next year the grim reaper will come knocking because this man has no clue |
theprimeminister
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... I'd love to see Ole Gunnar at Villa but not gonna happen. How about Holloway? |
John Salter
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... Sadly for whatever reason Mr Lerner appointed AMc and went out of his way to do it, so does anyone really think he's going to remove him this quick? I write 'quick' sarcastically and realistically, personally he should have gone before Christmas when it was obvious he wasn't going to change the habits of a lifetime but Lerner will not get rid of this man until it's too late. Listen to all 'the experts' we've got to give AMc a chance! The fact he's failed repeatedly is beside the point. I can't see anything changing any time soon and the club and fans will continue to suffer. |
Aero-4-Villa
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...Here you just need to fight, run, not too much passing. This, for me, is something new. This is a different experience and I prefer to play, to enjoy football. That was Alexander Hleb while on loan at Birmingham. Im really not sure if McLeish actually realises how dire his football tactics are and is just blatantly lying when he defends himself, or if he genuinely believes that his team are not sent out to play negative rubbish every week. Either way, you'd think his own players criticizing him would be a kick up the arse. Clearly not the case with this moron. |
gmjvilla
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... Did anyone else notice how Mct**t was milking the applause before the Citeh game? Motherf**ker was acting like Julius Ceasar... And the so called fans applauding him should be ashamed of yourselves... What has he done for the club? The only way we'll get a new manager is if he walks away or if someone new comes in to replace PF. I can't see either of these happening. |
The Droyd
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...Does someone somewhere think that it's because he hasn't had any money or not enough time? Does someone think, if he gets more it will get better? Damian - I don't think it's a time issue but yes, undoubtably if he gets more money to spend, things will improve. Money is by far the biggest driving force in footballing success. Non of the top 4 have achieved their positions without being able to outspend their less illustrious rivals. If McLeish was manager of Man Utd then they would still be up there. If he is given small beer in the summer then no, we won't be seeing much improvement. If he is given £30 million to spend on transfers then we can start to push for a top 7 position again. Is there still someone out there that thinks he never really got a proper chance at The Clowns after relegating them twice, playing pretty much the same football that we are now getting served up week in week out? Whoever is the manager at the B-Lose, you would expect them to be relegated once they have been promoted to the Premiership, due to the stature of the club. Yes they have been relegated twice with McLeish but he also won a cup with them and finished 9th in the Prem. The good is balanced with the bad so I think he did OK there overall but nothing more than OK. Does someone somewhere really still think it is going to get better? Honestly - No. McLeish has been a disasterous appointment and we all knew he would be. His abilities are debatable. I don't think he is as bad a manager as many of you make out but he is just a horrendous fit for Aston Villa. He would be fine somewhere like Wolves. He is not good enough for us and that, coupled with his Blues connections have caused anger or indifference amongst our fans. He asked for a chance to show us what he can do. OK, fine. Some of us were prepared to give him a chance to prove that it was worth all the fuss and upset surrounding his appointment. If he could slightly overachieve with the squad he has then great, let's give the guy a chance. So far he has failed. The negative football is fine as long we are tight at the back and hardly concede. Well he has failed with the double whammy of dreadful football and poor results. Occassionally we have played some good stuff but whenever we have done that we still concede goals and get s**t results. (QPR, Newcastle are recent examples). I would too now like him gone. However I can't really see us being a top 6 force again unless Lerner starts digging deep, regardless of whoever he brings in as new manager. I think Lerner will plod along with McLeish and the season ticket sales for next season will be horrific. A couple of N'Zogbia style signings in the summer will not be enough. After an exciting first few years, I think that we are facing perpetual boredom with the current owner. I would love for him to prove me wrong. |
Rocco
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... I spoke with a well known local Jurno about the club and its management and its almost farcical what has been said, Lerner fell in love with MON, as there mutual love of the Beatles and used to think that MON was awesome cause of this Lerner then fell in love with Houllier as he owns and runs his own vineyard, Lerner thought that was awesome as well. unfortunatly Lerner then fell in love with Mcleish as he thinks he is like Mel Gibson in Braveheart awesome again Lerner by all accounts is a top bloke but a little too trusting and very gullible in that American way! oh and Paul Faulkner was working in a call centre 5 years ago say no more |
PMR
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... Can you please please please stop banging on about how our manager USED to manage Birmingham City. He's our manager now so get over it. If you feel that strongly write to the club. Its childish. At the end of the day we have gone backwards since the MON days, but you hated him too. In fact the only manager that you liked recently was GH, who correct me of I'm wrong, didn't have a dissimilar record to that of AM thus far. So give him his "transitional season" just as you were prepared to do with GH. |
ryan in leeds
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... can we not organise a method of showing our feelings, a democratic agreement between users of this blog to all pull together, damian, if you want or feel that its not right for this blog to be used as a vehicle for this, then i will do it, somehow but we all need to pull together and stop talking and start acting |
dazvilla
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... i recently sent over an email to mr paul faulkner regarding my eyes hurting me from watching utter rubbish at villa park.his pa fairplay answered me within 24hrs saying he is looking into my email and will get back to me asap  |
ryan in leeds
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... PMR you are hoplessly wrong, seriously wrong, the problem is with lerner and faulkner, not the manager, the manager is poor, but he didnt appoint himself!! you are delouded if you think a transitional season is what were in, this is how it will be under mcleish and its not good enough |
nisse
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... The problem is MON this is all his fault that left us in a bad situation... the club is still in chock after that |
ryan in leeds
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... risse really?????? what a load of s**te, this is the fault of the people who run the clubs fault get real, oniel did a decent job, he is long gone |
J doyle
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... My perfect valintines day a card with mcmuppet sacked on it you can stick those arrows unless one is up his arse |
ryan in leeds
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... any villa fans who want to act, want to formulate some sort of action against mcleish send and email to villafansunited@hotmail.co.uk i will keep all fans up to date with how many there are wanting to take action and we can decide between what we do |
windofchange
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... Heaven help any manager who comes in and does a good job then leaves, because he will be held responsible for anything that goes wrong over the following 3 seasons. This situation is down to Randy Lerner he could have backed MON and whilst spending more money would probably have lost less as I have no doubt we would have finished higher up the league and the gates would have been nearer capacity as well as the extra merchandise sold, Lerner could have gone out and brought in a proven current manager when MON left as he could have done when GH left but on both occassions he took the short sited view this has resulted in the mess we now fin ourselves in, I dont see the job as one to tempt any decent manager if I am honest, I fear for the future Randy's approach must change and soon! |
steveavfc
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... PMR Its not, has everone on this blog has already stated,about him coming from small heath. The fact the he was chosen by their board to manage that club tell you that that was their level of manager that they could get. Its just not good enough for AVFC to have selected this standard of manager for our club |
Drainpipe
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... http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/...e-villa.do This article is a few months old now, but it still makes me cringe and I am sure we all agree that since October things have got steadily worse ... |
windofchange
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... If McLeish were to leave could anyone seriously see him managing a current premier league club ever again? Not for me no other owner/chairman is daft enough to employ him. |
Lucky4
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... I still don't understand why randy didn't go after Chris hughton instead of mcleish. He did wonders at Newcastle and was unfairly sacked,is twice the manager this clown will ever be and he was out of work at the time so it wouldnt have cost randy any compensation. How he wasn't even approached for the villa job I will never know! |
ryan in leeds
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... villa fans united facebook page is up now too, if you want to protest, want to act sign up to this and send an email to the email address, time for talking is over!! |
Randy Learner
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...I'd love to see Ole Gunnar at Villa but not gonna happen. How about Holloway? I wouldn't min either. Damian - I don't think it's a time issue but yes, undoubtably if he gets more money to spend, things will improve. Money is by far the biggest driving force in footballing success. Non of the top 4 have achieved their positions without being able to outspend their less illustrious rivals. If McLeish was manager of Man Utd then they would still be up there. Droyd, in the past i've thought you might chat some sense, now i'm not so sure! This clown wouldn't have Man U flying high, £30 mil and he'd get top seven, well i guess that's your opinion. Obviously i know you don't care, but you haven't got a clue! |
Shane Walsh
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... He has to go. no one cares any more about him managing the blues he is simply not good enough. could take losing if we have a go at a team but losing the way we have been is just not good enough. Dont accept pundits saying he is doing well with what he has got. We have a good squad. some players have dip in form but we still have good players. Shay Given-top keeper, Richard Dunne and King Carlos are good defenders as is Clar., Petrov, Bannan, Gardner are solid players and have been playing well when given a chance. Then have stephen ireland who could get into most PL sides but AMC is playing him out of position. N'Zog is a quaility winger we havent seen it because our manager likes to defend. Albrighton, gabby and Bent have the pace and quility to beat players and score goals. We have the players to do well but dont have the manager. He must go. |
windofchange
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... I dread McLeish being given any money, who might he buy? We have one of the most prolific goal scorers in the country in our team at the momnent and the guy doesn't get a kick, I can only see defenders coming in to continue the must not lose before trying to win phylosophy. Money in this guy's hands would be wasted. |
KEITH IN ESPAÑA
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... I have been a Villa fan for over 55 years and seen some bad managers in my time - Mcneil and Docherty to name two, but this current moron we have as manager is possibly the worst. In virtually every home game, the opposition have had more possession, more chances and more shots on goal.He has no tactical knowledge whatsoever and seems happy to see Villa play boring, negative, defensive football. For Villa's sake, sack the b*****d A.S.A.P. |
Randy Learner
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.... This situation is down to Randy Lerner he could have backed MON and whilst spending more money would probably have lost less as I have no doubt we would have finished higher up the league and the gates would have been nearer capacity as well as the extra merchandise sold I know fans don't like hearing this, but you can't run a club with wages at 90-100 percent of turnover in the real world. I know it was Randy's fault for letting it get there. Fans don't care about that, you just can't do it though. |
Randy Learner
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...I still don't understand why randy didn't go after Chris hughton instead of mcleish. He did wonders at Newcastle and was unfairly sacked,is twice the manager this clown will ever be and he was out of work at the time so it wouldnt have cost randy any compensation. How he wasn't even approached for the villa job I will never know! I've often wondered myself, although this letter from sir alex that's tucked under Lerner's pillow at night must have played a massive part. |
ryan in leeds
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... villa fans united now on twitter and facebook if you want to act, get in touch on there but ideally at villafansunited@hotmail.co.uk lets unite and fight |
John Salter
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... nisse - You are deluded! For one thing MON like him or not was the best managers we've had in years and secondly, he left on 9 August 2010! One man is responsible for Villa's slide into being a mid table, hovering over the relegation zone side and that's the owner, you know, the man who makes the big decisions like going after a manager with an appalling record! Would any other owner in the Premier League have appointed AMc? Not a chance in hell! |
Agrotis
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... Oh my, reading through the above posts just points to how our cesspit of an owner has withered away this great clubs expectations. I mean, Holloway and Houghton, really? If this is all we can now expect with the yank in charge, then i foresee a day when we might be back in the old third division. Please dont lose sight that this is actually Aston Villa you are supporting, and the reasons as to why you are proud to support it, dispite what Lerner thinks. The time has no come to harness that pride, and stand together against this destruction of everything the club stands for. Please, if you feel anything about Villa, fight for it. |
windofchange
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... I applaud all fan efforts to get this chump out but to Randy Lerner we are just a balance sheet, people dont matter, the fans dont matter, the club doesn't matter, just the money end of! |
John R Bates
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... It's like running any business, you have to invest for success, Randy did it in the first few years, but now as we all can see if a business cuts back all the time, goes for the cheap option, the product suffers, customers don't return, income reduces, and it's a downward spiral to oblivion, Randy you need to invest for success |
Damian
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... ryan in leeds meant in the nicest possible way the only way to protest is to stay away |
Agrotis
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...Sadly for whatever reason Mr Lerner appointed AMc and went out of his way to do it, so does anyone really think he's going to remove him this quick? This is whats ring alarm bells in my head. The appointment had nout to do with Football or else it would not have been made. It was done dispite them knowing it would alienate the vast majority of fans. It was done ignoring the managers track record, and it was done with the knowledge that he will have little support from them, and the risks that would bring. Now the above tells me, this has nout to do with Football. The secrecy that Lerner surrounds himself with, the cheap PR gimmicks and statements that go against all reality, the massaging of the local media, and attempts to stifle supporters concerns by removing banners and threatening them with bans, tells me hes scared of something. A recent comment on US Radio from Lerner when asked how much time Villa take up, was "Very little, actually" It was as if we dont exist, and he does not give a damn about us. So whats his game? Im worried hes running the club down on purpose, and im worried hes after the land, or is just using us as a golden tit. The cash he has spent, has to be paid back by us, since its in loans. There is something not right here, and instead of sucking favour with him, the local media should be hounding him for answers. So Lerner, what are your true intentions? |
ryan in leeds
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... Villa fans United - join us read this email from a true fan I have been a Villa fan since the old Third division days,my Dad took me when i was 5 years old.I have seen us win league cups,European Cups,League championship,runners up on several occasions in all domestic cups including the league.We have had good managers poor managers,but this one is the worst,worse than Graham Turner and Billy Mcneil. I want to join you to get rid of this muppet once and for all,not good enough to manage Aston Villa.I was one that was prepared to give him a chance,hate his negative football. that is the real fans opinion dont just accept this trach, lets take action |
QuitYourJibbaJabba
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... I don't undestand the negative tactis when you have a team like the one below available, tell me this wouldn't score goals? I did fail to find a single natural left back I would pick so this is why Clarke is there. TBH I'd like to see him at CB with king Carlos and a new (decent) LB. I would also like to make a point about how often Eck mentions "experience", if you look through his past interviews and comments he bangs on and on about it, while i realise it's important to have senior players he seems to use it as an excuse to pick older squad members over younger ones even if they are clearly more talented. I'd happily take the odd 5-0 hammering (aka Newcastle) to be playing as they do and where they are in the league. Eck seems almost happy to only loose 1-0. Given Lichaj Collins Cuellar Clarke N'Zogbia Petrov Gardner Agbonlahor Ireland Bent Bench: Guzan, Wiemann, Bannan, Albrighton, Herd, Collins, Delph Collins, Hutton, Dunne, Heskey all need to be offloaded imo. they are all old/slow/inept or a combination of all three |
Albri-12
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... Albri saying villa are concentrating on climbing the table and not relegation  they dont realize how much s**t we are in. when we dont beat wigan and BBurn, they might then. Watching olypiarcos, why haven't we called makoun back ?? he plays just like scholes. gets the pall and pings it around, his one touch play is Barca style. hes class and would only help our dire side out |
Agrotis
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... I wonder what old uncle Doug thinks about all this? I bet hes getting pretty restless. Still has an input in the club, and was somebody that Lerner would ask advice of. Still hope that change may come from within? |
Albri-12
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... Martin Laursen is the man. Would sort our defence out, would get the players sweating blood for the club and seems to be the kind of guy who would play good footy |
Albri-12
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...This guy is a legend. ye king carlos is but AM wont be giving him a new contract, but he will be to Dunne, Collins and warnock  |
ryan in leeds
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... Thanks argitos damian, i took my 7 year old lad to wigan at home, havent been since and i wont until this changes, but i will rally support, written protest to the club with as many names as posible joining me on vowing not to turn out to games, i will do what it takes to get publicity in media about our feelings, crank up the pressure on the club to act, Boys we all love our club, join me!!!!! i want 5k to start with 5 thousand people who want to show there love, i wont stop now till he is gone. villafansunited - facebook/twitter/email |
Agrotis
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... Viva, thats cheared me up mate  Hes more loved now at Blues, than when he was their manager! Have had Small Heath mates take the piss, which is natural, but then say, they feel sorry for us before bursting out in laughter |
cypriotvilla
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... Is it me,i feel that all our best managers have been strikers or midfielders.The defenders have never done well for us,Turner,O'Leary and now Mcleish. |
chrissim82
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... As a Villa fan I have to say the current situation at the club is becomming increasingly distressing for all of us. It is apparent to all that Alex McLeish does not have a clue when it comes to managing a top club..... he is way out of his depth. At very best he is a championship manager.... AT VERY BEST! This is a man who finished third with Rangers in a two horse race in the SPL, a man who in the three seasons before this as a Premier League manager, was relegated TWICE! Ask yourselves, when we bet Blues 5-1 at Villa Park could you have ever envisaged that the manager of that Blues side would be taking residence at Villa Park?? HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! FULL STOP. I don't know the guy personally but I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he is not good enough to be the manager of Aston Villa Football Club. 6 wins in 25 games is an absolute disgrace. At the end of last season we saw the signs of the team starting to play proper football, and ridicule Houllier as much as we did, three of the players he had identified to get rid of were Warnock, Dunne and Collins.... which caused trouble. These three players have been nothing short of a liability all season, so maybe GH and GMac knew what they were doing after all. So, Mr Lerner, Mr Faulkner please do the honourable thing and admit to your mistakes. Sack Alex McLeish and save Aston Villa. And for your next appointment, please can we go for someone who understands football is played on the floor and that can instill passion, skill and motivation to our talented young players so as to build a "Bright Future" for Aston Villa football club as you have always promised. If Paul Lambert and Brendan Rogers can do this at Norwich and Swansea repectively, why couldn't a man of their ilk do the same at Villa Park??!! SACK ALEX MCLEISH AND SAVE ASTON VILLA FOOTBALL CLUB |
STE JIM
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... I agree with you Damian. What is AMC salary? Did lerner get him on the cheap? because i can't understand why lerner appointed him considering he sent the Blues down that season. AMC being appointed from the blues w****rs, lerner must of known there was going to be some backlash from the villa fans. So why do it? its not logic. From a point of view you could say that lerner doesn't care of the fans opinions. We aren't important. Regarding AMC. I've been supporting villa since 87 and he is without a doubt the worst villa manager ive seen and at the moment the worst football ive seen at villa park. It isn't even football. I could understand playing away you try to keep it tight at the back, you spend most of the game defending and hoping for a sneaky goal but playing this way at home is unacceptable. When we did have a go at man city, we rattled them, they didn't like it but it was two minutes from time. You can see the players don't like playing this kind of style. They are unhappy and i wouldn't blame them for leaving but thats the case for some of them, who's gonna buy them at there age and take there wages on. Giving AMC cash to spend is suicide. The best the board can do is get rid of him but i would do this in the summer, once the season has finished. We won't go down, because there are worse teams than us but i would like to know what lerner's plans are for the future. |
ryan in leeds
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... all of you expressing your upset and distress, join me and the rapidly growing band of followers at villafansunited facebook page or an email dont just let this happen |
pip
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... i wish people would stop slagging MC off and then saying 'he's probably a very nice man' because even when he is interviewed he seems like a smug arrogant p***k, the man is a useless manager and a cock |
sjh
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... gmjvilla comment 9 here lies the problem.Ive just spoke to an idiot at work who went Sunday and he actually scored us 6/10 and he was being serious! WTF! How many more down the ground are like him? Due to the fact that AMC was being clapped after id say a lot.These people are the problem and they will all be crying when its too late,a stand could have been made Sunday but they flapped it.And i dont buy this "we will definitely stay up2 malarkey,its 50/50 imo and we wil know after the next 4 games.UTV.AMC out,sheep out!!! |
windofchange
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... If we are to get rid of AMc the one thing we then cant afford is a rookie manager no matter who he is it has to be someone with a proven track record, not someone we think might be a good manager. |
Marlbrook-Villa
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... Says it all, when you walk out of VP after a game, have something to eat, go to bed then go to work on Monday feeling sick to the back teeth and still RL and PF are not listening, or are they? |
oldnick
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... When are you all going to realise that Mcleish is going nowhere? Surely you all know this? |
rockyvilla
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... just logged in' 53 comments Sad to hear Eamon dies aged 53 im 53 just coincidence |
ryan in leeds
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... join the fight all villa fans, dont just let this reigime do what they will to our club,we ahve to have a say, we have to be heard |
ryan in leeds
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... oldnick if we all adopt your attitude then yeah your right. Personally im not the type of person to let anybody walk all over me or my own. I dont care how big, how rich, how high profile i will fight and rally support i am villa tilla i die #villafansunited |
jcv
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... great article damian. i still blame the fans who go down,it wont change unless the gates drop rappidly. there again if mcleish is sacked today, who would these idiots go for BRUCE,STRACHAN,MCARTHY,SOUNNESS,DAFFY DUCK OR BUGS BUNNY. we just need a young proggressive up and coming manager. but even i dont know who would tick all the boxes. hope you guys could come up with some ideas. hope we all have something to cheer us all up very soon! here the talks with the browns are ongoing.can anybody confirm ths. |
avfc4life
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... Can somebody post the link to the villafansunited facebook page please? I'm not on twitter and have tried searching on FB but can't find it |
ryaninleeds
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... http://www.facebook.com/pages/...3050662153 getting plenty of support now guys, join up it will make a difference to YOUR club |
windofchange
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... If we were mid table treading water with no danger of relegation then I would say this is the right time to bring in a fresh untried or up and coming manager, but we all know that if this idiot is sacked it will be when the penny drops with Falkner and Lerner and by then we will need a proven experienced man who has done this all before. |
sussexsharks
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... JCV I said this on Sun Post it woukd have to be an out of work Manager As no current Manager is going to leave his post and manage our current bunch of players don t see any alternatives at present myself |
Damian
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... ryan in leeds this is great. but anymore would be classified as spamming .. it is there for all to see, so no more. thanks |
ryan in leeds
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... fair enough mate, just trying to unite our fans into one movement, nut i wont step on your toes, cheers for letting me post about it |
cypriotvilla
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... If big Ron Saunders was in charge of Villa,he would have attacked Manchester City.Mcrap thinks we are stoke,wigan,or Bolton,he thinks we are inferior so plays negative. In 1976 Andy Gray hit a hatrick against a rampant Liverpool side who got beat 5-1 and won the league. Where is the we will rocdk you music at Villa park? Where is we are Aston Villa PREPARED,to face anyone? Teams used to be scared to play us at the Villa. Mcleish respect the tradition of Villa and resign. |
windofchange
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... cypriotvilla we were 5 - 0 up at half time that game against Liverpool. We went to Old Trafford and won under MON, even last season we won at The Emirates we beat Liverpool and Man City at Villa Park our demise is frightening. |
windofchange
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... Randy Lerner is a ditherer, he could I am sure sorted his differences out with MON, but dithered and MON went, he dithered before appointing Gerard Houllier so late in pre-season he had little or no time to put his own stamp on the team, he then dithered before appointing McMuppet and now look at us, decisive action is what is needed look at Wolves and Sunderland. Randy Lerner might have been seen as our saviour at one time but now I fear he will prove to be our downfall. |
symbas
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... Deamon Acey was a fighter and it saddens me that a guy like this has passed away at such a young age. I wish Randy Learner has a fraction of his fighting spirit and got rid of the Ginga t**t  |
rockyvilla
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... symbas i though Deamon sounded better thoght it was a spoonerism! Didnt Eamon go back to ireland to open a Greengrocery business? Can we have some memories from the Bloggers on this site please. Eamon was a terrier on the pitch, maybe the Villa should honour his passing some way. |
windofchange
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... Eamon was a regular sub (in the days when only one was allowed) in our championship winning season, hard working gave 100% never let anyone down and had a good rapport with the fans he was an unlikely looking footballer but in a way that was what endured him to the fans. A part of history appreciated by fans and sadly missed. |
Heroes & Villans
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... someone above mentioned the 'we will rock you' music as the players came out of the tunnell. I loved that, always think of it as our song. |
Andy Rock
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... I had a call from Villa two weeks ago, checking what I thought about the season ticket gift set. Low and behold the last question was "and will you be renewing next season" at which I laughed and explained not if McLeish is still manager as the football is so poor, the atmosphere as a result is poor, and I get no enjoyment from going to the match. I also explained I go with five friends who also won't renew. I think they will get the message eventually... |
jcv
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... ANDY ROCK, well done,you have give them the reply that i hope many more give mr learner and co.it really is the only way to get through to them useless dummies. |
ryan in leeds
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... Damian, I don’t want to spam on here, i have had nearly 100 people back the villafansunited campaign already, can you mention and promote the movement at the top of your posts as an outlet for people to join should they want to |
Damian
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... ryan in leeds meant in the nicest possible way, but why? i cant really see a plan. what are the aims and what do you hope to achieve. if you make them clear on your facebook page or twitter, then i might, but i'm not going to actively promote something i know nothing about |
prh1968
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... WAKEY WAKEY VILLA FANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Demonstrations before the game do absolutely NOTHING !!!!!Setting up a website and talking about how we are all united in wanting rid of this imbecile will do absolutely NOTHING !!!! The clueless T**T talked about the "noisy minority" and the "silent majority" who turn up to watch each week after this weeks delivery of dross . This shows the Rhino skinned idiot thinks most fans are actually behind him. The only way to stop this moron from taking this club into oblivion is to STAY AWAY !!!!!! Then and ONLY then will RL start to take notice . ITS A DIRTY DEED , BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE !!! |
AlfaVillan
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... Can't really understand all this McLeish out - who would we rather have now ? Steve Bruce, McCarthy..........? I remember that you didn't like Houllier or Martin O'Neill either - we spent this time last year shouting Houllier out which I have to say I did agree with at the time. McLeish has a view that you have to build from the back - if the defence is working then you can start looking further up the pitch. I don't think the performances have been so bad of late and we have played better in spells during the QPR game, against Newcastle and at the end of Sunday's game. He is getting a performance out of Stephen Ireland and occasionally NZogbia and we are seeing Carlos getting more games - we have to take those as positives. I personally think he is frightened to dabble with the centre backs for fear of a backlash (Houllier got one if you remember). He will of course now be forced to put Cuellar in with Collins which I don't necessarily think is so bad (Cuellar's distribution is better than any of the current back 4) We will not get relegated nor will we get a new manager before season's end - better to accept that and move on ? Why not get behind the team and support - I get frustrated too - Heskey shouldn't be playing but to be fair on Sunday he did better than Bent in terms of tackles and pressuring and I don't agree that Petrov should always get a start - there are games when Bannan or Gardner need a chance. Gardner is getting gametime now which is positive but we need someone like Ireland alongside regularly mixing it up. The next 4 games are crucial and we will get some points don't worry - wasting a lot of energy against the manager is not going to take us anywhere although it might make you feel better in the short term. Keep the faith |
Greg1981
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...Damian: Players are involved? I think they are 90% and ours are poor. Our manager isn't good enough but the players are the thing. Ryan: get real, oniel did a decent job No closure until Villa fans realise that his purchases ruined our club for a generation. (Because, Damian, players are crucial.) Windof change: This situation is down to Randy Lerner he could have backed MON and whilst spending more money would probably have lost less Unbelievable. His leagacy lives on: Shaun Maloney, Wayne Routledge, Zat Knight, Scott Carson, Marlon Harewood, Curtis Davies, Steve Sidwell, Nicky Shorey, Luke Young, Carlos Cuellar, Emile Heskey, Richard Dunne, James Collins, Stephen Warnock, Habib Beye, Stiliyan Petrov, John Carew, Nigel Reo-Coker This 90, yes NINETY, nine zero million pounds for you. Give him another 90 million???? Are you serious??? While he was buying these players, Villa fans singing MON's C&B army were part of the problem. |
ryan in leeds
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... fair enough damian, im at work at the moment and have been all day, i have ideas, but they will take a little more planning and then writting than a comment or to here and there, when i get home i will draft up a proper plan of what i plan to do and how i plan to use the strength in the numbers that will follow me. I agree that staying away is the best policy, but it isnt the only policy, we need to atract attention, we need to ensure that its not a flash in the pan, and commit to demonstrating the way we feel about the manager, and the policy of the club in general, in the way we progress after mcleish, and how we build for the future. personally i have stayed away, it kills me as i love watching the team, my dad wont even watch us on tv, this effects our lives, our daily routine. I dont want to stand back and watch this happen anymore, its really easy to sit and judge, mock and ridicule this movement as nothing, it takes more balls to stand up and try to make a plan, rome wasnt built in a day, and this wont be either, but how long do you think about it and not act? well today i have acted, and it will make a difference. Damian, you dont realise, but you have more opportunity than most, you have a following, whether it comes across or not at all times, you are respected, but you do seem reluctant to do anything sincere, commit from your heart, to do anything to help us growing band of fans who want to do something. I will give you a plan, and you can support it, or you can not support it, either way i will still enjoy your blog, and sharing a site with fellow fans, but it has to start somewhere, and today it started here for me. villafansunited |
ryan in leeds
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... by the way damian, didnt mean that to read you are judging, mocking or ridiculing |
steamers75
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... Alex Mct**t was a guest of Ron Saunders at Newcastle last weekend. In the hospitality lounge after the game, Alex asked Ron ,"howd'you think the current Villa team would fare against the 'Rotterdam Heroes of 1982?'. Ron replied, "l think it would be a close run thing, maybe a draw" Alex walks away feeling very pleased with himself, when Ron shouts across the room, "Mind you they have'nt trained in 30 years |
cypriotvilla
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... @AlfaVillan McLeish has a view that you have to build from the back - if the defence is working then you can start looking further up the pitch. I don't think the performances have been so bad of late and we have played better in spells during the QPR game, against Newcastle and at the end of Sunday's game. Ah but the defense is not working,why? Mcleish picks the same failures every week,at least Houllier addressed it.QPR,ARE s**t,we should have battered them.Newcastle we made them look like Manchester United.At the end of the game are you having a laugh.I am glad you expectations have lowered As for Heskey if he has to play,it must be as a striker. |
cypriotvilla
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... [The next 4 games are crucial and we will get some points don't worry - wasting a lot of energy against the manager is not going to take us anywhere although it might make you feel better in the short term. Keep the faithquote] He picks the team,with most players out of position.He picks the negative tactics.Thats why we have only won 6 times. |
dingbat
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... greg1981- Spot on! Reading your post I realized how much he spent on central defenders, I make it 6. Whilst selling the best, a home grown one Cahill. Genius! |
Damian
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... ryan in leeds It is about supporting what is right and I've done my fair bit. This site basically started after I made the petition to have Ellis removed years ago I've just not read anything or thought of anything that is worth starting something over It is different now because we have one owner. With Doug, we had shareholders. It is different these days |
jcv
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... damion it is different,iagree. but hitting them in the pocket is the only way.wether it is shareholders or an owner lost revenue allways makes a difference.it hurts their egos. if fans cant stay away at least be vocal against learner and co. let them really know how we feel. |
windofchange
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... I admit I am as bad as the next man: but if you think from the outside looking in: We had Ellis and wanted him out we now have Lerner and we now want him out we had O'Neil some wanted him out we got Houllier most wanted him out we now have McLeish and nearly all want him out. As they say "you can please some of the people some of the time but you cant please all of the people all of the time". Never truer than if you are a Villa fan! |
Fatkv
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... Plan big day at Aston villa bridal show Star guest AM will be giving wedding advice how to look after your wedding tackle he knows how to let the opposition to score with your wife to be and will stop the groom from scoring |
Pace
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... I personally won't be happy until we have achieved the same level of success as we did in the late 19th century. That is what any Villa owner/manager/player/supporter should be aspiring to and not settle for anything less. Is that a little unrealistic? Yes. |
Agrotis
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... Can anybody confirm that todays organised signing session with Gabby, turned out to be another fcuk-up? My daughter rang me, telling me that she had to wait around for gabby to turn up, and then was told he would not be doing so? Rumour was that he had failed to turn up at training this morning? Also, the club had to organise for Barry Bannon and Gary Gardner to do it at the last moment, but forgot that Barry Bannon is banned from driving, and they were trying to organise a lift for him! My daughter told me that people were pissed off, and she just gave up, and went home. If all this is true, then its a fcuking disgrace. And Gabby?????? |
Trinity London
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... Greg 1981-comment 86 Greg, Reading your post. I am a builder from London who is a life long villa fan, we are doing a project near Twickenham rugby ground, the adjoining neighbours are from the Brum, we have spoke several times regarding civil matters and they know i am a villa fan, they too. Sunday we were working and the neighbours father pops in to see our progress, he too is fom the Brum, but a blue nose, we get chatting about `Terrible McCleish etc,etc,etc. He told me that as he understands from a concrete source at the Villa offices that Lerner and o`neil came to blows at a meeting (pre Milner sale) and every one was told to leave as it got very heated, I can only imagine as to your article it had something to do with the millions he p***ed up the wall on CR*P, so the writing was on the wall for O`neil and may be thats why it ended with him doing as much damage as poss, leaving with days to go. May not be true, yet with your purchase list above we can all see what a clueless buyer O`neil was, we all know we may never get that opportunity again. Thats the sad thing. UTV. |
xandeh
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... As most of us have accepted we can do very little about stopping everyone going to the games, I and many others I know have not gone to VP this season and will not go again while AMc is in charge. Though 30 odd thousand still are. If we cannot convince those who still continue to turn up each week then we must try and get them to do something whilst at the games, booing will only have a negative impact on the team. What about if we did something similar to what UTD did with the yellow and green scarves? All wear something, it doesn't matter what really it is as long as everyone else has one too. What about stuff with the old badge on? Randy had it changed so surely that will hurt him?? The significance of what's being worn will be apparent online and via word of mouth so will eventually be spelt out for all by the media. It can't hurt surely? |
TrueVillan
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... Someone posted Paul Faulkners email address on this site so I sent an email Hi I have had a reply from someone called Nicola key basically states Paul Faulkner has received your email and noted your comments, goes on to give a telephone number if I wish to discuss the matter further! surprised I got a reply, may now try the number! |
birdy
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... great article in another link. McLeish’s biggest asset is his media friendliness. Nothing negative sticks and only his successes are ever mentioned in articles like this. When he took over at Motherwell, we had a great side and finished 3rd in the league the season before he arrived. Finishing second wasn’t the achivement it’s painted as, Celtic were in complete disarray at the time and Rangers were struggling at the end of their 9 in a row era. He broke our budget, pay structure and youth system in the process and left a successful, financially healthy club broke and at the bottom of the league. He jumped at the first offer that came along (as he’s done several times). Sure he won the 1st division with Hibs but with a budget many times greater than every other club in that division and a squad of over 50 players at one point. He also left them broke and at the bottom of the league when he high tailed to Rangers. At Rangers, he presided over the worst run of results in their entire HISTORY. 11 Matches without a win. That last day league win mentioned actually occurred as a result of Motherwell’s Scott McDonald scoring two goals in the last 5 minutes against Celtic to beat them 2-1 and allow Rangers to win the league. As Scotland Manager, he took over Walter Smith’s reasonably successful side mid-campaign and did OK until he changed the team and tactics in an away match in Georgia where we were utterly hopeless against a team with 3 players under 18 in it. He ditched Scotland without a backwards glance after 8 Games to join Birmingham City who he managed to get relegated twice (any other managers allowed to keep their jobs in those circumstances?) and built teams that are the lowest scorers in the division. As soon as the chance arises he abandons them having dumped them in the Championship and joins their biggest rivals. He’s already getting his his excuses in early having been quoted as saying he can’t compete in the transfer market with the “big” clubs. That must have come as a complete shock to him? His MO at club level is to keep signing players and hope something happens. You won’t see much youth development, that’s for sure, just overpaid, mediocre foreigners. Every club he’s managed has been left poorer and in poorer shape after he’s finished but the media will make sure he ends up at Chelsea or Man U (who he’ll dump to take over at Man City because they have more money). Yeah, great manager. |
Pace
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...Unbelievable. His leagacy lives on: To see that there (again) in black and white just serves to remind what a missed opportunity we had to break the top four. Depressing. |
seanbeag
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... Off topic this but Eamon Deacy a member of the last Villa squad to win the league in 1981 has died aged 53 burial in Galway friday R.I.P. |
peggy
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... Eamon Deacy RIP - A player never blessed with the greatest of abilities but a player who gave everything to the cause, sent out on to the pitch knowing full well his 90+ minute brief from a competent manager. May be rose tinted glasses but who from this shambolic lot could ever match the desire and spirit of that team? A soon to be lost season ticket holder of 30+ years. Yours very disillusioned... |
ryan in leeds
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... damian fellow villa fans, tomorrow i will be writting to Mr faulkner by email and by post to outline the ambition and purpose of the Villa Fans United. I will forward on a copy of letter to the blog here and effectively this will be the first stage, and a letter of intent with regard to our intentions. I need damian, and every other villa fan who cares to throw weight behind this, i am also going to draft an email to the club with every name of every villa fan who is following outlining there support to the group. once we have enough numbers, i am writting to every available media source, Birmingham mail, sky sports, ESPN, talksport, anybody who will listen to a number of organised people who care about there club enough to avoid going to games in protest. i have well over 100 people now who are backing this group. I am also planning to write to matchday sponsors, club sponsors any sort of cash related affiliates of the club telling them thatwe will boycot any products or merchandise while mcleish is manager. i will be listing before the weekend the sponsors i have written too, the names of the contacts i have made and publish there responses to our stance. It is only the start, this will evolve, each and every person has the right to ignore, support, dis-believe what ever they want to do, but i assure you, i wont stop, i wont rest, i will keep getting followers, as i believe strength in numbers is key. join me if you want to try to make a change happen damian, i will keep you personally up to date with any progress, significant events. your correct things are different now, we have social networks, ways to communicate, avenues to plan, randy and faulkner will have to listen if we effect turnover. thank you for reading, this will evolve and improve, but this is only day one, the fight starts here |
peggy
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... Eamon Decay - RIP. A player never blessed with the greatest ability but a player who gave everything to the Villa cause, fully knowing his 90+ brief from a very competent manager. Who from this shambolic lot can we say that about - players and manager? Totally disillusioned and a soon to be lost 30+ years season ticket holder. |
Maindog
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... ryan in leeds. I admire what you are trying to do. The only thing letting your whole plan down is numbers! 'well over 100' is still nothing. We need 15-20,000 plus to be on board. How about printing a few thousand flyers about what you are trying to do and give them out before the next home game? Awareness is the key. Also, a huge great massive banner in the city center would be a good shout too!!! |
Damian
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... ryan in leeds by all means write the letter and when the next blog post goes up i will point people to your facebook page (if i remember) but please dont say that the site is endorsing it although ironically, aiming at the sponsors is probably one way of doing it the thing is, i dont think this type of protest is the way to go. the only protest and the quickest protest to work, would be to not go. or of banners could be put up .. that would work too, but i dont think that will happen either |
jcv
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... birdy,that posting you have put on the blog,tells it all about mcleash.can it be emailed to faulkner it is brilliant.even i didnt realise mcduff was that bad. |
villamark
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... ryan in leeds how do i jump on your bandwagon?? i am liking the way you talk,respect to you. |
windofchange
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... ryan in leeds : I admire your enthusiasm and your determination and I wish you good luck, however numbers is the key, getting the word out around the wider Villa fan base may prove a difficult process. I would contact media organisations first if it is of interest then one mention on a radio station could reach 100's of 1000's its worth a punt. Its the sort of thing Talksh*te love to broadcast. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... I love how you are convinced by your numbers you are so cock sure they won't get worse lol 40 @ The protest i heard more and i also heard less i guess we will never know the real amount but lets not slag people off for trying Its a lot more than most of us are doing IE writing about it maybe we should look at ourselfs and ask can we do more ? |
Leroy
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... would have been perfect to sack him after the loss to Man City.....then we could have the fans united for a tough run in and hopefully win two or three of the next four against sides we would ordinarily beat if not for mc muppet |
Eddieav
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... Can I ask this question to villa supporters who buy into the clubs arguements about oneil being a git. Martin oneill.... so we are led to believe he received 2 million in compensation from Aston villa. ok the exact figure I don't know but can we at least agree he got paid at least 1 million. he walked in and handed in his notice. when was the last time anyone went up to their boss said I'm off and got compensation. the only way you would get any compensation is if your employer broke your contract or if it was constructive dismissal. think about it why on earth would they give oneil compensation. they paid him compensation and made him sign a non disclosure agreement so he couldn't spout off what happened. has anyone got an idea about why he left other than what the club told us about cost cutting. if you give your missus your credit card wouldn't you at least want to see the the statement for god sake. there is more to oneil leaving than what we are told. ok he did sign some crap players agreed but look at what was raised, Milner young Barry downing I get that to 70 million brought back for starters. Carew was a swop, people like Cahill left for a fee, Gardner. we got our money back on zak knight and Maloney. do the figure before we spout about what oneil spent. as I say yes there was some crap brought in and we lost money on some players but nothing like what gets spouted about. this is simply about randy crapping his pants, nothing else. if you think he has the right to decide that then fair enough that's another argument but this board are very good at PR, believe me, I do know about it. RIP Eamon Deacey. |
Adam69
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... Good luck Ryan in Leeds, respect to you and I hope you achieve what you set out to do. Our club is rotten from the top and it is becoming frankly embarrassing watching the tripe served up every weekend, and the contempt with which the board seem to hold us supporters is staggering. |
villanag
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... I reckon if we don't win against Wigan McLeish will be sacked, i think eventually fan pressure will be too much, dont know hoe true this is but i I herd that villa this season are about to loose 1.5 million pounds in revenue compared to last season. |
Some Random American
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... Villanag, I wish it were true. But seeing what we've seen from the management they're perfectly fine with losing or drawing to teams like Wigan that are in serious trouble (QPR and the Wolves) and we've come close to doing just that quite a bit. You don't see any discontent coming to McLeish coming from anyone but the fans, and occasionally the players. It could be similar to the deal with Nike, but I honestly just don't think that's true. |
Falmouth Villan
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... This is a note to any of the players who may by some small chance read this blog, even if you are the youth team reading it pass this on.... In my job my boss is not always right, i make changes to what he says needs to happen(my employers are yanks as well by the way..wallmart)the choices i make result in my business being number 1 in the performance stakes for the entire south of england( with a 65 million turnover pa.)it would not happen if i did what some tw@t in usa told me as he does not know OR really care as long as some money comes in! The point is that while this situation is totally down to the board and mctw@t the players (the employees) can do something about it. Get together after training and agree that no matter what the ginger one tells you to do tactically during the match do what is right for the good of Aston Villa F.C. that is play your normal game and attack, he cannot control what you do after you cross that white line so what the fu@k are you listening to him for when you know hes wrong? and before anybody says he will drop them think about this if they win they are heros if they loose he cannot drop them all...premier rules and all that so if YOU the players are big enough stand against the instructions you are given and play your normal game....remember some of you are playing for a place on the euros plane! let alone your reputations. V.T.I.D |
Len
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... have had trouble posting blog although logged on comes up user name in use when trying to post comment |
johnnymac
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... Please understand.Fan protests will have absolutely no effect.Its just a pity that people bought season tickets at the start of the season when the writing was already on the wall. An empty stadium would be the most effective protest possible. Just don't expect a sacking.RL can't afford it. |
Len
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... Lerner is not interested in what we have to say,all he wants to do is take his consultants fee,interest on his loans,and any transfer money he can get.The club is in a mess from not only bad management on the field but also at the top.I am fed up with watching this negative football,I don,t even mind if we loose as long as we have a go,but we can't even sell our tickets because of the ticket offers. Season ticket holders don't renew next season then Lerner will take notice.I am off to Harriers this Saturday to watch some good attacking football. |
Villan117
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... A Motherwell fan's take on McLeish. You should point this out Damian; http://footballblog.co.uk/alex-mcleish-career.html Particularly Tommy's reply (He's the Motherwell fan). |
jimbuck
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... don't post often , always read the posts. An underlying trend in the posts seems to be that "it doesn't matter that McLoser came from the clowns , it's his style of football" . Well i gotta tell you that round my part of Brum it most certainly matters that he came from the clowns . Couldn't give a flying f..k in a rolling doughnut if he wins the title....just get rid of the bluenose pr..k !!!! |
Ken
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... Can I just point out to season ticket holders who are still going to renew thier tickets next season why? when if you dont you'll be able to get cheap tickets every week if Mctw@ is still in charge why pay the extra to fund Randy Loser,Plank F*ckup and Mctw@ |
divine_islet
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...Lucky4 said: I would have chosen Hughton over AMC any day as he's head and shoulders above him.He's the main reason why Brum are doing well in the championship,and could get promoted this year.Newcastle are doing well in the prem not because of Pardew,but because of Hughton's efforts in successfully tryihg to help them play good passing football. |
deano scores
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... ryan in leeds There is already an anti AML facebook page with 15k plus likes (although they are not doing a good job - the posting yesterday was something about bad luck if your wife has a period on valentines day or something - im not kidding) Anyway, the way to put together something credible would be to try and co-ordinate something with all the different FB and blog owners into one cohesive (none abusive) thought out blog/FB page with proper content, articles and analysis - united we stand and all that. Everything I've see so far from the anti brigade has been too personal and abusive - its easy to dismiss stuff like this. Thats why a serious campaign needs someone like Damian or another significant blog involved to wirte and, more importantly, edit content. Personally I think if we dont get anything from Blackburn/Wigan then AML will be out or he will be out after the welcome he gets at the Fulham home game. Even AML cant survive nil points against two relegation favourites. Just my opinion anyway. |
windofchange
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... A lot is said about how much money O'Neil spent,but who signed the cheques? who agreed the salaries? If we bought cr*p that was due to not having someone with football knowledge as cheif executive before spending the money. Cut it which way you like but it all comes back to RL/PF! |
bobvillian
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... See the story about the muppet going out with his backroom staff to cleaverland with randy on his private jet for a weeks chin-wag to talk about ways to improve the club!!I fell of my chair when i saw this in the birmingham mail.Are we about to play with helmets and lots of padding or what;Story goes on about how close randy and the muppet are so any throught of him being sacked are not going to happen.This is the worse NFL club we are talking about and we are supposed to be learning things about how to run a club.This story beggars beleif and just goes to show what a joke club we have become |
bobvillian
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... You can now bet on the muppet bringing in players from rangers now that they are in mess;more very average hutton -like signing!! |
Agrotis
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... Anybody who falls for this latest Lerner bulls**t, about Mcleish fying to Cleveland for detailed discussions about summer transfer targets, is a bluenose muppet. Fall for it once, and your unlucky. Fall for it twice, and to use a phrase Lerner is familiar with, you're a sucker. Remember all the bull with season tickets last term. DONT RENEW. A justified responce to Lerner about this latest Geobels bulls**t offensive, is to botcott the next home game, but since the majority of our supporters are suckers, we can boycott a championship game instead. |
Agrotis
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....This is the worse NFL club we are talking about and we are supposed to be learning things about how to run a club.This story beggars beleif and just goes to show what a joke club we have become Well General Napalm mentioned that the plan was to run Villa like the Browns, both on and off the pitch, last year. I pulled him up on it, and told him it would never work. Seems the stupid retard old fart was serious. God help us. Seem |
windofchange
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... Shouldn't the muppet be spending as much time as he can working with the team to try to improve things instead of going on some jolly to the states? |
Agrotis
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... If all this Cleveland love fest is true, then so is the rumour that it was Lerner that put forward the idea of scrapping relegation. Now why would he do that? When are Villa fans going to wake up? |
nisse
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... There are many high balls in the nfl.. so i think mcclueless is preparing for the championship GOD LORD HELP US |
John Salter
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... So what is AMc supposed to learn from the Cleveland Browns, how another Lerner project is failing it's supporters? Hopefully he'll stay there! Here's something for you to learn Mr Lerner; Don't appoint managers with awful track records who specialise in getting their teams relegated and who your fans don't want! It's far from rocket science but for a so called intelligent man, you've made a major gaff and we the Villa supporters are now paying for it!!!! |
monkey man
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... Firstly forget youre campaigns protests and facebook groups none of it will work as randy doesnt care if we dont like AM,he doesnt care if we dont like the style of play so dont waste ant time with the above the only way he woul take note is if our attendances drop to 20000 mark,as long as he sees the figures of 30-35 thousand that little yanky smile will keep on beaming. Is there any other man in this country let alone a manager who would play emile heskey left midfield if so please tell me why you would play him there,it makes me a little bit mad. |
villamark
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... I am a depressed villa supporter and here is the only way i see a future for us. 1 new manager,someone young and hungry.platt would be my choice 2 insist that the passing game was played 3 a budget for the season and anything above to be self funded 4 a clear direction for the club and fans to follow. I realise football has changed and it could be a chance for villa to lead the way for other clubs.we need to realise that we are not the force we would like to be but with a solid structure we can rise again.I want players to want to play for us and if they demand to much money then i dont want them no matter who it is. We should take a look at germany for some examples where crouds are massive finances are good and tickets are cheap. Is it this easy or am i just a dreamer?? |
Rocco
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... Randy / Paul just to clarify to you that in the game that uses a round ball and doesnt go on for 5 hours there is a thing called relegation, this basically means those nice people who put those funny dishes on the side of houses then dont have to pay you 90 million pounds a year then. hope this make sense as i am told your both a bit dim |
John Salter
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... Facebook and Twitter protests can't not help try to improve the situation I suppose but the best thing to do in my opinion is to stay away from Villa Park as hard as it is and it's not the easy option by a long way, I can assure you. I've stopped going and I've stopped buying anything Villa related and it will stay that way until I'm convinced that Mr Lerner has long term ambition and the future of Aston Villa Football Club at heart, which I don't think he has at the moment. I know a lot of people weren't happy in the way that MON left and I also know he made some mistakes but it's easy to see now why he left as the reality of the five year plan became real, it didn't exist in the tangible world. I equate being a Villa fan at the moment to mourning someone you love, it makes you feel awful and every time you think about it, you get a dark cloud in our mind and nothing seems to make it go away. I sincerely hope that things change but I can't see it short term, primarily because Mr Lerner would have to admit making an enormous mistake in appointing AMc and people like him aren't big enough to admit their mistakes. |
windofchange
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... monkey man : there are others who would play Heskey in left midfield but they are safely under lock and key. |
Rocco
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... if you noticed the idiot Villa fans applaud the clown before the start of the city game you know that we are either f****e / too tight to boycott / or just plain stupid, nothing will happen as there is too much apathy, no other club/fans would stand for this b****x, trust me |
ou812
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... My heart sank a little bit when I read the post in the Mail about how close Lerner & ECK are. Now he is over in the states for a week. I fear even if we were relegated he still wouldnt sack him. I now have a name for the Hoofball we play. Hail Mary Soccer James "Hail Mary" Collins villa fans united |
paddie87
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... i also had a call from villa asking what i think of my season ticket and will i renew next season i have had a season ticket nearly forever and i answered with i aint goin down villa park till mcginge has gone.i also said your wasting your time ringing season ticket holders and asking them are you renewing because most will say the same thing.NO NO AND NO!!! |
LukeD
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... Funny little story. A friend of mine works in a local Mercedes garage. Zigic has been in and out a few times recently with his car and today the manager (a villa fan) said to him "you can take McLeish back now" zigic responded with " No no no we don't want him back. This man us terrible". |
xandeh
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... Surely Randy learnt from his mistakes with MON? That the guy managing your club should NOT be your friend, but your employee. It's when you extend that relationship into a friendship that you're blinkered until it's too late. Everyone feels more or less the same about how AM handles himself in front of the media, he spouts utter rubbish and he's getting away with it and these people asking the questions KNOW about football. Can you just imagine the crap he's feeding Randy? A man who KNOWS nothing about football? |
xandeh
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... Ryan, you're more than welcome to try and get a few more to sign this, I know it only has about 1000 but thats a start! Good luck mate!http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/avfcmanager/ SIGN AND HELP GET RID OF MCLEISH. YOUR CLUB NEEDS YOU. |
henrydouble
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... Guys, you're looking at this USA trip in the wrong way - you need to look at the positives. McClown and all his Merry Muppets have gone meaning training is being controlled by KMac, Sid Cowans etc real football people. Hopefully 2 weeks free of them is enough to get us through vital 4 games which can make us safe. And maybe if we're good all week and wish hard enough, their flight back will be snowed off... |
Bloggert
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... Dont know if anyones looked at the NFL standings but the browns manager looks like hes doing even worse than mcliesh... won 4 lost 12 with 6 straight defeats |
rocky
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...Bloggert said:and he`s gonna be giving tips to Mcleish lol |
Albri-12
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... [quoteAlex McLeish seeking help from Cleveland Browns] There as s**t as we are. we are a bloody joke. |
xandeh
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... How can a poor NFL manager give tips to a poor football manager? Tips in what? How to deal with having 90% of the supporters hating you!? How to deal with dips in attendance? The only good thing that can possibly come from this is that AM actually thinks he is Mel Gibson in Braveheart and takes a sword with him, gets caught and ends up in guantanamo bay. |
clevelandvillian
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... Was just driving into work and heard on local radio that McMuppet was in town to learn some things from the Browns head coach, almost drove off the road WTF Came on here but I guess you guys already know Have to see if I can take off work for a couple of hours and hang a McCleish out banner on the front gates of the Browns training complex in Berea |
bobvillian
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... Prehaps while he is over in cleaverland the muppet walks through a cornfield like in the film [field of dreams] and like in the film disapears for good!!!! |
That nae has already been registered...Yes! By me!!
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... Surely more to this than meets the eye? Why would Mcleish go to the US to discuss training/scouting etc with an NFL manager? The games are totally different. Doesn't make sense. He'd be better off going to visit his pal in Manchester if he wants to learn something! |
Villa Fans United
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... Villa Fans United Have Written to paul Faulkner today, i will upload the letter and any respnses if damian allows it, it is on the facebook page and i will email it to anybody who emails the email address i will only put this up once today as i dont want to spam Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/...3050662153 twitter - @villafansunited hotmail - villafansunited@hotmail.co.uk |
Harleystaggers
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... Lee clark sacked from Huddersfield for underperfoming*!!! 3losses in 55 games, if only our board was that ruthless!! *(reports are there are personal issues between clark and the huddersfield chairman) |
ou812
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... clevelandvillian said: Have to see if I can take off work for a couple of hours and hang a McCleish out banner on the front gates of the Browns training complex in Berea Now that would be classic. Imagine ECK walking in & a big McLeish OUT banner hanging from the gates! Just cos you not welcome at VP doesnt mean your welcome at the Cleveland Browns Stadium. Does this mean we can shout "DEFENCE DEFENCE" when we dont have the ball? |
cypriotvilla
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... Do not despair fellow Villa fans. The meeting of the worlds most inept coaches is really a blessing. They can discuss there win ratios,very similiar if you study both of them. Randy like most americans has an ego,how long can he suffer being the but of all jokes. Mcleish there comes a time when you manage a club bigger than his ego,he will not be able to mask his inadequacies at a bigger club like Villa.He managed at Rangers in a micky mouse league,managed the clowns enough said on that. The cracks are appearing,protests have started,the press are now reporting them.People from other sites,fans from other teams,the players have started on Mcleish as well. Its gonna get alot worse before it gets better. Think,What does Randy hate and fear the most? RELEGATION AND ITS FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS. SEASON TICKET SALES. IF I REMEMBER ATTENDENCES WHEN O'LEARY AND MCNEIL WERE IN CHARGE FELL BELOW 20,000 IN SOME CASES 11,000 |
cypriotvilla
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... Do not despair fellow Villa fans. The meeting of the worlds most inept coaches is really a blessing. They can discuss there win ratios,very similiar if you study both of them. Randy like most americans has an ego,how long can he suffer being the but of all jokes. Mcleish there comes a time when you manage a club bigger than his ego,he will not be able to mask his inadequacies at a bigger club like Villa.He managed at Rangers in a micky mouse league,managed the clowns enough said on that. The cracks are appearing,protests have started,the press are now reporting them.People from other sites,fans from other teams,the players have started on Mcleish as well. Its gonna get alot worse before it gets better. Think,What does Randy hate and fear the most? RELEGATION AND ITS FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS. SEASON TICKET SALES. IF I REMEMBER ATTENDENCES WHEN O'LEARY AND MCNEIL WERE IN CHARGE FELL BELOW 20,000 IN SOME CASES 11,000 |
John Salter
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... clevelandvillian - Quality! Aren't you lucky, two world class managers at a Football Stadium near you, haha. Be careful when your driving home later, they maybe on the local radio and that would cause you to leave the road! |
QuitYourJibbaJabba
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... Has anyone seen this group? http://www.facebook.com/notes/...9538393312 ? This is the problem we are facing, the blind ignorant. |
xandeh
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... Letter I wrote to PF this afternoon, in two parts as it's rather long.. Dear Mr Faulkner. |
xandeh
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...How dare you have your staff call me to ask if I intend to renew my season ticket, how dare you think the rubbish you're selling each week is worthy of my hard earned money. I'd rather go down Redditch United at the moment they might be in the bottom half of the Evo-stiks north division but they're playing some good attacking football. and I'd rather watch a good game and have my team lose, than a poor game and know my team didn't even try. |
avfc4life
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... great letter Xandeh, you've said everything I would say! Lets hope Mr Faulkner and Mr Lerner take you up on your offer |
MArc4villa
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... AMC in Cleveland to brainstorm! Jesus almighty, surely you jest? American Football is such a different game to our football (soccer) that there is nothing in common whatsoever. Unless of course AMC is bringing back the Cleveland Browns kickers to Villa Park to help Collins and our pathetic backs to hoof further. The difference is that in the National Football League, you get rewarded if you come last by getting the first round pick in next season's draft of players. Sadly in English football, you get relegated. And thus AMC will never learn a thing during his Cleveland visit, and come two weeks from now, we will still be playing the dire defensive crap football with out of position players served up a la Mct**t. We are surely the laughing stock of the Premiership. Shame on you Lerner for putting us loyal fans through this and I for one will never set foot at Villa Park again until McIdiot is fired. Remember that we are in formthe long term, but you Sir are in this for the money and investment. Your umbilical cord is in America, while ours remain buried close to Villa Park. We the fans deserve better and we implore you to act before it is too late. |
McLeish?? Oh dear..
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... So McLeish is off to america for a week to learn how to fail in american football and swap stats about how to lose games whilst our players do nothing? What a joke. The timing of this dubious holiday / silly exchange is ridiculous. What on earth is going on at our club? |
TrueVillan
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... for Gods sake, Mcliesh is going to America to get tips! on what! they play a totally different game, the players require a totally different type of fitness, i.e. some of them weigh in excess of 20 stone!! what can possibly be learned?! and the Browns are a worse team than us! a trip to Manchester and a chat with one of his old bosses would provide him with a million times more positive input than a thousand trips to America!! you really cannot make this 5hit up, AMERICA for football tips!! i could cry! |
.vogra
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... The only thing i'm hoping for is that this trip to the States about "training methods" is a huge smokescreen, and the real reason for the trip is he's telling AMC he has 3 games to save his job. |
b6 villa
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... What the f**k has american football got to do with the premier league, as said before clueless manager with a clueless owner |
sjh
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... going to America?This is just a piss take! Randy hasnt got a brother called Mortimer has he? because this has got to be a bet! We are being made a laughing stock! |
Harleystaggers
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... I too, foolishly wrote to Mr. Faulkner and I had a 20 min chat with the illustrious Ms. Keye. The upshot from her is, of course, that while Alex McLeish is in charge they will be supporting him and in doing that they wont be explaining why they felt he was the right man for the job, they wont be commenting on his fate should we not get European football and they wont be acknowledging that his appointment has any connection with the fall in attendance or any reduction on season ticket sales for next season. They feel that any reduction is part of a ' peaks and valleys' cycle of supporter attendance. They will be doing all they can to ensure a fantastic supporter experience should one wish to attend a game and they feel that they are being as communicative as possible with the fans in order for us to see us through this period of transition. She said that the club has not received a high volume of complaints from supporters, and said that the largest backlash came at the defeat to Man City when GH was in charge, not the spurs game this season.. They feel the club is moving in the right direction because there has been passages of good play in 3 games this season and that just needs to be built on. I made the point that in any game, no matter who plays, there is a period where the weaker team has a spike in possession and maybe some chances to score, but we can only name three for the entire season that is worth talking about. Basically, there will no convincing the club through supporter feedback that McLeish has to go. Feedback by keeping your wallet in your pocket or put the banners up. The silent majority needs to shuffle quietly out of the stadium. |
McLeish?? Oh dear..
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... Read today another damning stat that McLeish did actually manage Rangers longest period EVER without a winning a game. 10 consecutive games. How on earth did he manage that with Rangers in that league? Mind you has broken our record for longest period without winning a home a game in Prem ever . 3 wins at home so far -he might be able to beat the record for lowest home wins ever for us in a season at this rate. Nevermind tho lets make sure he spends the next week in america learning about quarter backs etc eh? |
Fatkv
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... I guess pansy is contemplating a job swap as both his choice managers are crap in there own sport Randy is so sad he has to think his employees atre his best mates so a switch of jobs may help them both out |
Fatkv
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... I Wonder if Randys dad had to tie meat around his neck to get the dog to play with him |
Len
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... You are lucky to get a reply to your letters,Faulkner did't reply to mine,but I am thinking of writing again.I am so annoyed,I am self employed and as with everybody going through quiet times,we have 4 season tickets which have been hard to pay for,but it will be one less expense next year.SEASON TICKET HOLDERS DON'T RENEW. What a joke sending AMc to the USA to get tips from a coach of a different game,who is doing worse,what a joke. Next season support your local non league team and boycott the Villa. |
DeadTeamWalking
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... Can't believe they sent him to America Hope there is some nutty hitman on the lose in the area Mcleish is in Blatantly blanked fans with that statement today about him off to meet browns coach Disgraceful football club we have became i for one hope we do go down now and it financally hammers lerner left right and centre You deserve no money from fans and i for one 100% will not spend a penny on anything AVFC related Screw us fans now time to screw you |
Heroes & Villans
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... i have not stopped laughing since i heard mcleish is off to america for tips! all he has to do is watch motd and watch how other teams play...done! Maybe he will be sacked instead....get Lee Clarke in. |
McLeish?? Oh dear..
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...
This is just silly talk. |
Walls10
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... Some great comments on here today but I'm sick to death of hearing journalists say what a great bloke and given time what a great manager he will be ie Sam matterface des Kelly they wouldn't stand for the s**te this clown serves up week in week out a quick question has there been a manger who has got a team relegated in the prem and then left his team to get a job back in the prem |
jcv
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... watch arsenal tonight and are listening to talk s**te it is marvelous how arsenal and chealsie are in crisis, what the f**** do they think we are in.we need a midland program that can air our views.not that pratt tom ross. we need a talksport local station for our area. |
b6 villa
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... If randy has called him over, he can keep him there so he can manage his American football team, if he has gone over to get some lessons off a coach up there that tells you he don't know what he is doing, and this is suppose to be a experinced, successful manager who supposed of already got his coaching badges, if he is getting coached how is he supposed to be coaching our players, f**king circus, and these clowns are turning us into a bigger laughing stock then we already are |
DeadTeamWalking
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... McLeish?? Oh dear Its what Randy deserves he needs teaching lesson this would be the prefect lesson for him Maybe then next time he won't be so stupid in hiring a manager that is great at taking teams down And not only that it might teach him the lesson that sometimes listening to your fans is a good thing Remember the customer is always right |
Villaonthegreen
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... Some might think it scarilege but i have got to the point of dispair and apathy where i would be happy to see us lose to Wigsn and Blackburn. I decided not to renew my season ticket when AM to my astonishment was given the job. I did this becuase i dreaded the dreary defensive crap i knew he would bring to us. At the time many on here said, you just had to get behind the manager and support the Villa. However i did not want to blindly follow whatever rubbish was presented to me. AM and his negative philosophy is a cancer that is poisoning this great club. Rather than pray someone like the players or old backroom staff will find the inspiration to win a game and keep Eck in his job, i would prefer us to cut to the chase. I really think the only way we will be rid of Mcuseless is if we go down or seriously flirt with relagation. That being the case i would feel much more positive and willing to return to Villa Park in a Championship battle for promotion with a new, hopefully positive manager rather than face another dull monotonous season of boring soul destroying hoof the ball, I want my Villa experience to be more than hoping to avoid relagation by being slightly less awful than three other teams. I know and understand all the arguements about Premier league money etc, but i honestly think a fresh start in the Championship would be a better more interesting and even more thrilling proposition than perpetual underachievement under McLeish dismally and constanstanly trying to hang on to the Premier League status. |
specky
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... this is seriosly depressing that Randy Lerner sent Mc Leish to cleveland to learn from their coaches,the browns are one of the worst teams in the NFL. for godsakes in a league wherew parity is the goal what a disaster |
DeadTeamWalking
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... The worse thing is if we do go down we will still be stuck with Mcleish because Randy does not want to be proved wrong in his decision to bring in Mcleish Until virtually all fans stop going down Villa Park we are stuck with him no matter what |
Stevelosttheplot
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... Maybe the plan is to leave Amc there & bring back homer Simpson , let's be honest could be any worse dohh |
John Salter
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... Hopefully Mr Lerner has asked him to go over so he can be sacked, after all there's not much to be learnt from the worse American Football team in their league is there? Not knowing much about their game, I would say I was surprised to find that Cleveland Browns ended their season at the bottom of their league but then I remembered Mr Lerner! Clearly he's interested in sports but obviously not very good at managing and owning them. You would think a man as intelligent as him would just move onto something else! Please! |
cypriotvilla
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... Chiefy said http://www.astonvillalife.com/...me-think? Chiefy i do not agree,especially with tactics.You do not play Heskey on the right.At least if you are defending you need to counter attack.The last 10 minutes showed what you can do if you want to play. Yes we have aging players,but he has younger and better options,of course we may never compete with Man City,but we still have the firepower in Bent and Keane. |
Agrotis
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... What if this trip is a cover for McCliesh to meet any new owner, out of the way of the British media? Discuss severence terms for him and his assistant? Its all a little strange when you think about it. |
Amnesiac101
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... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17045572 anyone seen this, unbelievable!!!!! |
GabbyisNOTmylovechild
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... Talk about Sheep! please use this link and read at your peril! I have a couple of replies on there! https://www.facebook.com/notes/proud-to-be-a-villan/protests-not-in-my-name/250149538393312?notif_t=note_reply |
aza7
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... i dont think mcliesh is going to america to get football tips. I think its more to do with the way they evaluate, and treat the players in terms of fitness and medical staff. Hence why, several of the backroom staff are also going. |
GabbyisNOTmylovechild
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... I am not sure whether they blame the kids on the pitch for every defeat either aza7  |
windofchange
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... The meeting was a surpise: Randy set it up for celebrity fan Tom Hanks who wanted to meet a real life Forrest Gump! |
Agrotis
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...Hence why, several of the backroom staff are also going And all of them were with him at Blues. Think about it, theres something amiss here. Smoke and mirrors and all that. |
taglor
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... I just popped on here for the first time in days as I am really busy with lots of stressful stuff at the moment. It made me realise, i'm meant to visit sites like this and watch Villa games as something to enjoy and take away from the demands of other stuff but quite simply Aston Villa FC now add to stress and even create more stress, anger, embarrassment and boredom. All this from something I used to really enjoy and use as entertainment for a whole lifetime and passed through my family. Y'know what RL, PF, AMc and the twittering 1 goal wonder millionaire's at the club? Supporting Villa at the moment is just plain b******s...... stick it, i've got too much to do with my time that can make me happy instead. |
cypriotvilla
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... [Both of Lerner's leaders have struggled to find success since this past September. Villa are currently 15th in the league table, just seven points clear of the relegation zone. They were recently responsible for what many fans and analysts have called one of the worst games of the current campaign, a 1-0 loss to Manchester City. With Pat Shurmur acting as both head coach and offensive coordinator/play caller, the Browns finished the 2011 NFL regular season at 4-12. Only three teams finished with worse records than the Browns, and only two teams averaged fewer points per game than did Cleveland. It wasn't all bad for the Browns in 2011, however, as they did have one of the better defenses in the league. Shurmur will again be Cleveland's head coach in 2012, but Brad Childress, former head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, will be the team's offensive coordinator next season.uote] frighteningly striking,the problems the Browns are having. |
pat
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... Wigan will beat us next week if we don't set out 2 attack them from the start.I feel that they will get @ us early doors the fact that Dunne is out.Surely they can't sit back & wait 2 hit them on the break |
jcv
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... harleystaggers. just read your conversation with ms keyes. gates down through peaks and valleys.what planet are they on. average attendances are down five thousand.it is obvious why. unless the gates really go down,they will just ignore us. at least we have got a break this week.we need it!!!! |
bobvillian
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... Interesting fact about our muppet of a manager;besides breaking a record at villa with no wins at home since bonfire night he has also broken the record at mighty rangers without a win in twelve matches!This is at one of 2 best teams in scotland;this shows you what a w****r we have at the club.And the nearer it gets to end of season we are going down. |
davidg
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... I don't what all the fuss is about over McLeish going to the States; it doesn't bother me one bit. It's the thought that the clueless t**t will come back again that scares the s**t out of me. |
Villa fans united
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... I have checked emails Damian and there is one I think you are alluding too, why does that effect a letter being posted I will be addressing the person who wrote that email and I will address them first, a word of caution to whoever feels the need to email me disrespefully, I have achieved more in 3 days than many others, email me and call me a troll or faceless and you will be deleted, I deserve a little bit of credit, I'm happy to discuss and share the burden of this as the whole point of this is uniting villa fans for a common cause, and if we were face to face, I don't think any abusive comments would be said. I'm nobody's fool, in any walk of life, I want help, won't be mugged into it tho |
Damian
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... Villa fans united i've no idea what you are talking about now, but i sent an email, followed up with a second a few minutes later about 20 minutes ago. read that, sent to the email address you have used on this site that includes two names in it and a number. read those emails |
DeadTeamWalking
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... Agrotis You are seriously convinced a takeover will still happen ? Come on man don't be so deluded its never happening not for a good few years yet anyway Don't believe what you read on the internet remember the rumours first came about they said a takeover would be complete in Febuary im still waiting and no media has any wind of anything happening |
sjh
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... just saw this on another site and have to agree with it. Wigan A Blackburn A Fulham H Bolton H 4 or less points – in a relegation battle 5-7 points – Still in a battle but should be safe 8 or more points – 100% safe |
Albri-12
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... we ain't gunna beat wigan or BBurn. both sides on there patch will beat us. we are crap |
Albri-12
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... oh and expect Davis and Nasmith to be at villa in the summer now Rangers are f**ked |
Shane Villains
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... i had a quick though about it and that 1 in 4 does not add up it is rubbish mere coincidence, he would not be a relegation specialist if that was fact. The man is just out of his depth at this level plain and simple. As for Paul Faulkner am trying very hard to figure out what his qualities are; his a ditherer reason why this joke of an appointment is still at the club. Second the man is also useless at balancing the books otherwise O'Neill would still be here. How young promising managers like Lee Clarke can get fired and this clueless fool has us flirting with relegation and still in the job is a joke. Ferguson says his a good manager and all those lazy fools across the media believe it with out with out good research or reasoning.
A agree with you on this mate Hughton is impressive, his in another league to McClueless. His not given the credit he deserves what he done at Newcastle after they went down was incredible. He rebuilt the team and instilled the confidence back in the club single handed with hadly any support from that Del boy Mike Ashley. The thing i have noticed and like about the man the most as a manager he seems to get better with every season he is in management. I remember his first stint as interim manager at Newcastle its remarkable how much he has improved as manager. Villa fans united carry on the good work mate very proud of you as villan but one thing you have to take into consideration is what we have all learnt in the past weeks from the Liverpool debacle is if you want to get a message to an American owner you have to get the attention of the American press/media. |
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... McMuppet gives his blessing for DB9 to play for GB at the Olympics - being a bit in front of himself if you ask me I doubt DB9 will be his player by then, I expect one of them will have gone. |
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