Written by Damian Tuesday, 25 August 2009 07:41
Morning all, that was fun last night, wasn't it and you know what, Liverpool didn't exactly have an off night, I just think we are a much better team playing 4-5-1 and we looked it, especially in the second half when Liverpool were roared on by The Kop and the pressure really was constant.
But, we did exactly what the formation suggested. We attacked well, we defended well and looked more of a cohesive unit and had more solid. You might even say we were more together last night as a team and because of it, our players looked better. Because of all that, we picked up our third victory against one of the top four in forty-two matches.
I'm going to look at that in more and a few other things at the end of the post and I'll apologise now for bringing it up for the 184th time, but I hope it will be the last, but that is up to Mr O'Neill. For now, we have the regular things to look at, starting with the papers.
What The Papers Say
Phil Thomas, The Sun
And while Villa may have been a tad fortunate to sneak into the lead in the first place, do not let anyone tell you this result was all down to good luck. Not a bit of it.
Sam Wallace, The Independent
Fabio Capello was in the stand but there was no Emile Heskey to watch, he has become a luxury that O'Neill could no longer afford as he returned to the 4-5-1 system with Gabriel Agbonlahor on his own up front. This time O'Neill's team needed to be solid and they rode their luck in the early stages but then Villa have had precious little good fortune of late. Brad Friedel was brilliant for Villa. He made an improbable save from Gerrard in a ninth-minute scramble which seemed destined for the Villa net as the pressure grew in the early stages.
Andy Hunter, The Guardian
Not since Carlos Tevez scored at the Kop end in December 2007 had Liverpool fallen at Anfield in the Premier League, a sequence stretching back 31 games and this defeat will bring fresh soul-searching for Benítez. Two defeats in the opening three games of a season of such promise represents a sorry state, although for Martin O'Neill, himself charged with recovering from a languid opening, the night was as restorative as it was unexpected.
Oliver Kay, The Times
Villa were well worth their win, if not in terms of shots on goal then certainly in terms of attitude and application. Brad Friedel, the former Liverpool goalkeeper, might have felt at times that this was a one-man crusade, but he was well served by a strong team effort, which featured impressive contributions in midfield from Stiliyan Petrov, Steven Sidwell and Nigel Reo-Coker, and which culminated in the 74th minute with Ashley Young keeping his nerve to score the decisive third goal from the penalty spot.
The Manager
No mention of the formation, but he also shouldn't have to talk about it, I think he knows now this is better for us.
Martin O'Neill
I just felt we were excellent. It's a tough place to come. I don't know if the lads had any thoughts in their heads about the last time we played but there was a great focus in the team. It's an enormous boost to us. You are under pressure constantly here no matter who you may be and to get that second goal in terms of confidence gave us a great lift.
In the second-half we knew there was going to be great pressure. But I felt we always had the ability to conjure up something else because there are goals in the team. I thought we defended very strongly in midfield as well. Just the overall effort of the team was there for all to see.
The Players
Liverpool (4-4-1-1): J Reina — G Johnson, J Carragher, M Skrtel, E Insúa — J Mascherano, Lucas Leiva (A Voronin, 66min), D Kuyt, S Gerrard, Y Benayoun (R Babel, 75) — F Torres. Substitutes not used: D Cavalieri, M Kelly, D Ayala, A Dossena, A Riera. Booked: Reina, Skrtel, Torres.
Aston Villa (4-5-1): B Friedel — H Beye, C Cuéllar, C Davies, N Shorey — S Petrov, J Milner, S Sidwell, N Reo-Coker, A Young (E Heskey, 80) — G Agbonlahor. Substitutes not used: B Guzan, S Lowry, C Gardner, M Albrighton, F Delph, N Delfounesco. Booked: Young, Reo-Coker.
Man of the Match
This was an easy choice and judging by the results we managed to get in the few hours I kept it up, most agreed. Nigel Reo-Coker picked up 59.9% of the vote and well, it was deserved last night, he looked very good. Sorry, very good isn't a good enough word for how he looked last night, he was excellent.
Up Next: Europa LDV
It's at home, they are no mugs, but we will have momentum and hopefully an extra player or two to bring in. Thursday will be a good night and if we can carry that momentum through to Sunday, we should look at getting points then too. It's all about momentum, continuity and, dare I say it, 4-5-1.
Final Analysis
Right, where do I begin. Everyone looked good last night and it's not often I write this next bit; nobody looked bad. Gabby excelled as the lone striker, getting down the channels, pulling defenders with him and if O'Neill let's him finally develop in this formation he will only get better.
In fact, the one player that looked like he went missing a bit was Ashley Young, but when asked to, he did his job and Liverpool did play close attention to him, so it' snot his fault and his effort and work rate, were second to no player last night.
All of the defenders looked much better and that is because they had the extra support in front of them. Davies and Cueller didn't have to deal with a free man coming through and most was coming through on the floor because our five man midfield were quick to close down Liverpool, not giving them the chances.
Nick Shorey, who only got one vote for man of the match also had a good match. Want to know why? Well, it wasn't because of him, it was because of the five man midfield. He basically did everything the same as he usually does, but this time he wasn't make to look silly because there was cover and him setting up two of the goals was the icing on the cake for him and I can't remember, but it was down the left, was he involved in the first too?
But, man of the match Nigel Reo-Coker is going to get most of the plaudits today, but he'll get them because of Stan Petrov and Steve Sidwell. Reo-Coker was made to look good by the other two; they gave him the confidence to run box to box and not have to worry about the detail. On his runs, he also broke up attacks and hassled defenders and ultimately showed why we have to play five in the middle; it makes all the players look good.
I know I've banged this 4-5-1 drum for far too long, but we absolutely have to play it on Thursday and we have to continue playing it because it works and we will only get better the more we play it.
Right, I'm waiting for some new signings today. I'm expecting Distin to join Everton but I fancy Warnock is coming and maybe another one or two, but I think they have to come in soon.
Set as favorite
Bookmark
Email this
Comments (170)
Subscribe to this comment's feed
Mostyn
said:
 |
... Is 4-5-1 the only formation we can successfully play in? I don't see the top clubs being so inflexible. Teams got used to our formation last season and just sat back to soak up the pressure. I can't see MON employing 4-5-1 every week. |
Damian
said:
 |
... Mostyn No, 4-5-1 offers more flexibility. Not that 4-4-2 doesn't, but it'as also as much about mentality. When we play with Gabby and Heskey or Carew - we have two strikers and they both stay up there. We have holes .. When we play 4-5-1, we are much stronger have less holes and more support. We can also attack with Gabby down the channel, he is supported on both sides and as we saw last night, Reo-Coker can run in absolutely anywhere and pop up un-marked. So no, it isn't the only, but it is much better than 4-4-2. |
Carl McCullum
said:
 |
... It was an absolute pleaure to get up at 5am on a work morning i here in Oz to watch us pummell the scousers into the ground. 1st class performance from everyone on the pitch but as everyone has said reo-cocker was unbelievable. The amount of times he snuffed out the early stages of a liverpool raid was emence. I'm not the ginger ninja's biggest fan but even he looked good. It all goes back 2 what ur saying Damo about EVERYONE looking good in the 4-5-1 formation If everyone does their job on the pitch then it is like a well oiled machine that is running smoothly. Nothing better than when a few of ur mates are so called liverpool fans then 2 send them a msg getting it right up them. Most of them wouldn't even know where liverpool is. UTV all the way!!!!! |
leighton
said:
 |
... playing ash in the "hole" would fill these holes allowing 4-4-2 to be a success... worth a go i suspect... |
Damian
said:
|
... leight then that is going to be how liverpool play .. 4-4-1-1, which is just as good and is a variation of 4-5-1 as ash is a mdifielder and will be asked to do as much in midfield and as much going forward - a bit like keane at spurs .. it's all good but the way we played last night was good and exactly what was needed. why change from what we did last night? |
Mostyn
said:
|
... So what happens when teams don't attack us and just sit deep? - My theory is similar to last season in that it will produce a dour stalemate. We need to be able to press teams by switching formations throuhout the course of a game if necessary. Gabby is simply not good enough because he's so predictable. |
chrisb
said:
 |
... 4-5-1 when we defend and 4-4-3 when we attack is the only way, but we are going to have an awful lot of frustrated players on the bench. |
PORTUGAL VILLIAN
said:
 |
... i thought the whole team played their socks off. mom for me was davis allthough friedle was superb. |
leighton
said:
|
... damo... i agree 4-5-1 is by far the best formation 4 us, but against so called lesser teams then i think our midfield 4 would manage allowing ash 2 have a free role n cause damage where he wants, i think ash would be more dangerous floating about, linking with the wide players and pushing on... whenever gabby n ash are close on the field they look like they have a good understanding of each other and think gabs would benefit from ash playing a free role and would create more goalscoring chances for him... |
ruffy
said:
 |
... You are right MON did get it right, and it seems that he at least learned from the 5-0 last season. Whilst it was a fantastic result though, dont get carried away. We should take the following from the match: -4-5-1 is clearly the best formation when playing away to top sides, or needing to play counter attack. -Reo Coker clearly proved a point and should be in the team whatever the formation. -The players reacted well to the scathing criticism after the Wigan debacle. -Liverpool were flat and we were gifted at least 2 goals. -We defended very well. -We have 1 great and 1 very good keeper. -This does nothing to show us how we'll go about playing at Villa park when we cannot play defensive. -Agbonlahor was anonymous again last night and I think he's been on a crash weight gain during the summer. This was a great result but we have to remember that Liverpool had 21 shots at goal, 62% possession AND were clearly below par. One last thing I want to add. MON was quoted as saying that there was booing at half time during the Wigan match, and how he noted that Liverpool fans didn't boo at HT. Whilst the end of match reaction wasn't out of place against Wigan, likewise the Liverpool fans that booed at the end last night, this sort of ridiculous treatment at half time has to stop. I can agree with Martin on that one. |
leighton
said:
|
... ruffy 21 shots but only 2 decent 1s... 62% possesion thats always going 2 happen playin counter attacking football(especially away), let them camp outside your area, they overcommit then hit them on the break.. |
gregdavillainsays 'Randy Show me the money'
said:
 |
... 4=5=1 is the formation that suits us best, but i wonder what will happen at VP. Will oneill change it or see it as being too negative to play at home? I hope not. For all the people looking for ashley to play in the 'hole' please give it a rest, the kid is a pansy and needs the protection of the line when he turns into trouble, hes a good player but im sick of him jumping out of the way, and not fighting when his man stands in front of him, he just gives up these days. He's a real pussy in my eyes, if he played like that in sunday league he would be laughed. Sorry i just think he needs to man up. |
Gavin Merriman
said:
 |
... Mostyn The formation lets milner and young push forward when we need to becoming 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. The when when under pressure we drop back to 4-5-1. I agree we need flexibility, not just a rigid 4-5-1 but this formation as default gives us that flexibility. It lets us dominate the midfield, defend better, keep the ball, and pass along the ground. Fingers crossed we announce some signings today. |
Benavfc89
said:
 |
... 4-5-1 definatly the way faward for villa. But lets be honest i still think that we relied on our set piece ability too much. I think that when teams start picking up on our set piece threat again they will start to counter it and alot of draws on the cards again. Stick to the 4-5-1 but i definatly think we need a fast stricker with a bit more goal threat or a centre mid who will push into the attacking areas. Maybe delph would fit in nicely. Not to take ay credit away from the amazing performance last night though. |
villarobin
said:
 |
... I would sooner play 4 5 1 home and away , Id rather have the odd 'Dour Stalemate' at home than loosing loads and loads of home games playing 4 4 2 like we did last year. We can beat the big 4, Arsenal last year, Drawing with Chelsea twice, Liverpool away this year, just need more strength in depth as we have been saying for years now to keep the consistency up. Amazing last night, but it doesnt and shouldnt cover up the faults , like the paper thin squad. We could win our next 15 games and it wouldnt mean a thing if the tiny squad is knackered by christmas. Signings please AND LETS KICK ON. UTV  |
brisbane villa
said:
 |
... Fantastic game well worth getting up early for....now the season starts!!!! |
croni
said:
 |
... Who's questioning O'Neill now? Seriously, a lot of people are acting as if it was they who convinced O'Neill to go for 4-5-1 There have been suggestions from a lot of quarters that O'Neill is predictable, isn't tactically aware, sticks to the same formation over and over again, which is utter nonsense. He is just as adept at changing formations as the best of them. Rarely has anyone mentioned that O'Neill's preferred formation is 3-5-1-1 , (he loves having three centre backs) which was evident last night. Hopefully this fantastic performance and hisoric result will silence O'Neill's critics |
Damian
said:
|
... leight but we played 4-4-2 against wigan and lost 4-5-1 offers more flexibility when going forward and in my opinion is better than 4-4-2 when trying to attack too |
leighton
said:
|
... gregdavillain.... ye ash is lightweight i agree, but has quick feet and wins a lot of free kicks, and we look dangerous at set pieces around the box, last night for example... worth a go at least... |
John Flynn
said:
 |
... I'm all for this formation, and it would mean Heskey doesn't play.. But what happens to Carew.? I'm not sure if he is suited to the lone striker role, and as we know he is a best forward (goal scoring). |
Le Shava
said:
 |
... "Aston Villa Outclass Liverpool..." WHAT!? lol. You are having a laugh aren't you!? From what i saw, you got two very fortunate goals and your keeper had a stormer. The stats do not lie, you were played off the park and were defending for your lives for large portionas of the game. I honestly do not know how you can be so positive about last night. From what i saw it was simply a freak result against an underperforming Liverpool side. Fickle, fickle fans. |
Ray Knowles
said:
 |
... An excellent result. I absolutely hate Liverpool so to beat them at Anfield after all the drubbings we've had there over the years is just immense. All that said, Liverpool were very poor last night and we really didn't look like we were going to score from open play.... To be honest I think 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 raises as many questions as 4-4-2. Defensively we look much,much stronger not playing 4-4-2 but playing Carew in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation just won't work as he's not mobile enough - and he was our most dangerous striker last season. I'm not so sure about 4-4-1-1 either as our strength last night was the midfield trio of Sidwell-Petrov-NRC, with Ash and Milner out wide. Playing Ash in the hole behind Gabby/Carew/Heskey is certainly an option (with Downing wide left) but in doing so you lose one of those midfield trio and I'm not sure how much stronger we'd be then over our normal 4-4-2. What we do have now though are the players to give all the variations a try, depending on the who we're playing. I think the bigger question is do we have a manager who is prepared to be truly flexible on formation?? |
Villain down South
said:
 |
... Damian - did you see this today? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h...219523.stm Worth a look I think. Exactly what I have been saying - getting on the players back and MONs helps no one. The fans last night sounded brilliant - well done them for singing their hearts out all game. If we could transfer our away support to Villa park I am sure our form would improve. |
chrisb
said:
|
... Damian- Well done for choosing 4-5-1 but I think it was MON and not yourself who selected that formation as he did last season. If some of the arsebandit idiots who think that its ok to boo villa during matches continue to do it we will lose our best manager since Ron saunders GET BEHIND VILLA AT MATCHES YOU NUMBSKULLS |
leighton
said:
|
... i agree damo... but like people say..... some teams come to us and play with 10 behind the ball and mark our 1 striker out the game which makes us very ineffective... we could take a risk or 2..... 3-5-2 maybe (if we dont sign anymore defenders this could be a distinct possibility in the near futuer depending on injuries).... |
Scrumpy
said:
 |
... Its not as clear cut as we must play 4-5-1 all the time. Take the Vienna game, we started with 4-5-1 and it was ok but not that effective at soaking up pressure (this might be misleading as the Davies slip, and a goal so early on can have a strange effect on the game). But when we switched to 4-4-2 second half, we were more effective. Vienna didnt create any more chances than they had against 4-5-1 and if anything Villa created more with the 4-4-2. So I think it depends not only on the opposition but also how it is going in each specific game. The 4-5-1 against Liverpool was spot on, but 4-4-2 or even switching in the second half to an out and out 4-3-3 (ala Wigan last season to bombard the goal) may be the way to go against Vienna in second leg. I think Petrov/Sidwell/Coker/Milner/Young looks a very solid athletic midfield in the right circumstances. ps: any detractors of Sidwell should not that after the final whistle in Vienna, despite getting a few jeers/whistles, he was the only player who made the real effort and came all the way over to show thanks to the supporters....so I'm in the Sidwell fan club for a few games at least. |
Simon
said:
 |
... Damian I do not think there will be any more signings until after Thursday nights game. If we win by 2 clear goals then we are into the next phase and that is surely a big incentive for people coming in. As for the Villa, I too have been banging on about a particular topic and last night was justification of my beliefs. Play NRC in CM and he will do the rest, end of. Really pleased for him. UTV.  |
Faccundo
said:
 |
... Damian This shows 4-5-1 is the right formation for us AND that MON can kick us on and get us to the Champions League BUT (and here comes the contingent condition) - we need greater squad depth RANDY LERNER - THE FANS HAVE DONE THEIR PART, MON HAS DONE HIS PART, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO DO YOURS STUMP UP THE CASH FOR ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: HANGELAND VELOSO LOVE VDV - IDEAL AN WILL HAVE WATCHED THE VILLA LAST NIGHT AND BEEN IMPRESSED DEFOUR NEILL (FREE AGENT) LUGANO (FREE AGENT) SPIRANOVIC -CHEAP GOOD SIGNING Damian can get a petition on the blog happening for a marque signing - Champions League is so close we just need Lerner and his minions to keep their word |
leighton
said:
|
... le shava... get a grip, liverpool were shite as our midfield harried yours and stopped you playin... credit where credit is due please... no alonso no invension.... |
Tim Wood
said:
 |
... Where are all the neigh sayers today? Crawled back into their holes I hope!! Great result although I think we rode our luck a bit a times! Bring on Fulham UTV |
Benavfc89
said:
|
... If we keep playing 4-5-1 we have to play carew at home. He can hold the ball in the final third and this brings our midfielders into the game. Gabby is nothing more than a sprinter which is perfect away where teams will come and attack but this is rearly the case at villa park. If carew plays home games and gabby plays away it will keep our players fresh and will give us more variety. |
villarobin
said:
|
... Le Shava . We won mate , easily in the end. So get over it. How many spawny games have Liverpool won from Gerrard penalties - LOADS. However I have to say , lets not get carried away, we still have a long way to go and alot of class signings to make. The trouble is we can swing from Wigan type performances to last nights with too much ease, and WE STILL HAVE A TERRIBLE SQUAD WITH LITTLE COVER. LETS GET SOME MORE QUALITY IN, and get abit more consistent and not rely on the long ball so much. |
Chiefy1
said:
 |
... Shorey suprised me, Habib played well, Davies was strong, NRC excellent, Sidwell played well, Milner played well, Brad excellent, Carlos did his job, GABBY was he playing ?!?!?!?! Great team showing great result NOW WE HAVE STARTED |
croni
said:
|
... Friedal was my man of the match but most people tend to overlook goalkeepers The fans were brilliant last night, more of the same please |
Scrumpy
said:
|
... It would be nice if some of the Davies-haters had the balls to fess up and admit that he was an absolute rock last night. Beye looked solid actually closing down and stopping crosses, but also good on ball and getting forward, and Petrov/Sidwell/Coker were really solid....just shows the whole team need to defend (even Young/Gabby putting them under a little pressure all helped), and then even when that doesn't quite work you have big Brad in some excellent form. I wonder if little Brad looking better each time we see him play is starting to up the competition for the GKs... |
Chiefy1
said:
|
... Is it any wonder our players perform away from home with the support they get at home fans tend to get on their backs must make them uneasy if only we could support at home the way we do away ! |
Leroy
said:
 |
... I have been right there with you Damian with the formation banter. 4-5-1 is where we play our best football, simply because it allows our players to do what they are good at. I thought that Curtis and Carlos were very solid and even better was their assuredness at the back. No hesitation whatsoever. The major difference in the 4-5-1 is the fact that players like Petrov and Reo can gang tackle the opposition and disrupt the flow of the opposing midfield. Reo was amazing last nigh, he has a great nose for the ball. Petrov and Sidwell interveined in many of Liverpools passing attempts. 4-5-1 lets us play with some harder players in teh middle who have a great work ethic and will double back when we need, this also allows Milner and Ash to push up when needed. Was it no surprise that we didnt resort to the long ball shite whilst Carew wasnt in the side? Shorey also deserves a mention as he gave some good options on the left and showed he does have a decent passing range. Great result, but it highlights the need for more signings.....how on earth can you expect Petrov and Reo etc to pay like that for 45 games? MON owes it to the players to get in some back up not just the fans....... |
Tony
said:
 |
... Great win - but how many shots did we have in open play that the keeper had to save. In fact how many shots in open play have we had in the first three matches? We need to keep our feet on the ground. We deserved to win in the end but we got the real breaks at the crucial times. Our luck will not hold out that well every match. We still need those signings. UTV |
Mostyn
said:
|
... Man.U, and Chelsea won convincingly in 4-4-2 formation. I believe we would have similar success if we dropped Gabby for a striker! I like 4-5-1 away from home or teams that like to attack. Liverpool were sucked in. Not all teams will. |
toastman
said:
 |
... Did you all notice that when the villas fans at 0-2 wanted a wave from MON he stood there motionless, not a single bit of movement. he was not happy after the boos againt Wigan. personally the fans had a right to air there views. If the players were not ready for the start of the season who's fault is that, the fans? I think not. Yesterday they look fresh and ready to go and happy with the formation they played. |
Damian
said:
|
... Le Shava You want to talk about statistics - look at the first 45 - we had more shots than Liveprool and more on target. Any team and I include Arsenal in this, wouldn't have much in the second half at Anfield if they went in 2-0 at half time. Yes, we outclassed Liverpool, by your very own statistics. I'm positive because O'Neill played the right formation with the right players and it worked but I won't get carried away - it still needs work and we still need players, but are you surprised by the positive feeling today? Also - this fickle thing - come on, leave it where it should be left. Every football fan in te world is fickle - it's the nature of the game. Mostyn I fancy he'll be off to Everton maybe ... Villain down South Yes I did see it and the fans booing at half time against Wigan were booing becasue they wanted things to change. Maybe had O'Neill changed them at half time it would have worked. You cant say it is okay to boo at full time bit not half time and like O'Neill says, they pay their money ... chrisb i dont agree with booing but if o'neill says it is okay .. well, who you going to argue with. and yes, he picked the formation and well done mr o'neill. now he just has to stick with it leight and when those teams come to villa park to play 10 men behind the ball are we going to be better playing 4-3-3 (a perfectly valid variable fo 4-5-1) or 4-4-2 - the answer is 4-5-1, otherwise they'll have an extra man in midfield and it showed last night how important it is when playing teams with the extra man in midfield we match that |
Le Shava
said:
|
... Leight Check the stats, you were completely dominated. How often is Lucas going to score an own goal? Gerrard going to concede a penalty? Face it, there was a large amount of fortune in your victory last night and you really are getting way ahead of yourselves. Your squad is still nowhere near the likes of Spurs or City. Also, Everton are going to strengthen with the Lescott money whilst you lot are likely to sign overrated English s**t. Excuse my language. Already Everton have acquired the services of tricky winger/AM Bilyaletdinov. Like i said, let the dust settle before bringing out the Rose...lol |
Alistair
said:
 |
... A great win last night. Thank God - I don't think I could have handled another week from the boo boys and MON out brigade. Either support your club or take up golf. I agree that 4-5-1 is the way to go away but not so sure it will work at home. If we want to play someone in the hole maybe Milner would be stronger than Young. I think its worth remembering that football is a game and all games involve luck - we rode our luck at the beginning and then got a lucky opening goal. After that our confidence grew - confident, positive minded players are 300% better than nervous reticent ones. Hoping for some more signings before Sept 1st. Its early days yet. A win against Liverpool doesn't mean we're top 4 material any more than a loss against Wigan means we should be calling for the Manager's head. We were a good team last season and I'm pretty sure that even without Barry and Laursen we are still a good team. UTV |
Freelancelot
said:
 |
... As some are saying now it's not so much that we need to play 451 all the time for me, it's that we need to allow more movement around the pitch with players interchanging. Its not easy to do well but we have the players to do it. Playing 2 strikers seems to encourage less movement - it's not that 442 is bad, we just dont play it well enough. Delph and downing make this mobile style of play more likely not less and while we may have to wait a few months for them to really contribute I think we're continuing to go in the right direction. We need extra players for injury cover and competition, but is there a gaping hole that needs to be filled with a mega-signing? I dont think so. |
Leroy
said:
|
... leight - Le Shava is a gooner and because he is a w****r noone will talk to him on the Arse blog, so he comes on here to get a rise out of us...........he obviously didnt even watch the match in its entirety and saw a few highlights from Skysports now he makes his assumptions on 45 seconds of footage.......just ignore him and he will go away |
Ray Knowles
said:
|
... I've been thinking Gabby looked much heavier too - I thought Mega Mass 4000 though probably on the controlled substances list for footballers  Curtis Davies and Friedel were immense and Cuellar not far behind in terms of our defensive unit. NRC definitely the pick of our midfield trio and it was lovely seeing him making runs into the box. My only other point on 4-4-2 though is that if we had Hangeland, Sneijder and Wagner Love in our spine then 4-4-2 would work just fine..... |
Damian
said:
|
... Leroy Please .. Le Shava comes here, offers insight and a different perspective. No need to be calling him names. Please ... |
Chiefy1
said:
|
... Damian - can you tell me what was or is up with big john i heard Sevilla are after him is there anything in it ? |
Againsthesun
said:
 |
... About Transfers I am sure there will be a signing or two before the window closes. Maybe 3 but probably not more. Indications from media and a reasonable assessment leaves us with a good 20M to spend. We will focus on the defence, we need a truly solid CB, and we need an alternative to him. And we also would like some creative central midfielder. But I have asked myself all summer, why are we only linked to "obvious" players in UK or the obvious sale-prospects from Real etc. Why are we never linked with a supertalent from Croatia, a potential bargain from Greece or an exciting prospect from Scandinavia? Is it so much of a gamble to try out a prospect or two from other countries? I am pretty sure we could have the topscorer in Slovakia for 1,5 M and the best defender in Scandinavia for just short of 3 M. Why are we never trying to find the next Modric, Hangeland or Rodallega? Our scouting network seems a bit limited, or very concentrated on UK and the mainstream market. Being a Norwegian myself I suggest 2 players from Norway who will provide great depth and who can become truly great ones. Eirik Huseklepp / Brann AM LC Exotic younger player who never plays a poor match. Young, pacey, technical and also an international (played alongside Carew in the 4-0 trashing of Scotland 2 weeks ago). He will be taken by a big club anytime soon, he has been marvellous this season with 9-10 goals and the same amount assists in 20 many matches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgrA8XVaMSk Per Ciljan Skjelbreid / Rosenborg (MC/AMC) Offensive midfielder, very pacey on the ball and creative as well. Tireless and always great in international matches. Norwegian Tippeligaen not the right venue for him as his play is much more ball-possessive and international than the kick and run physical Norwegian one. Always shines when Rosenborg plays ecup, was impressive last night versus Real Madrid as well. Vast potential, will take huge steps if signed by a good club. And just as we saw, Liverpool signed greek Kyrgiakos for pocket-money this weekend, this is a robust and supersolid central defender, we need to fish in the same waters and try to get in some alternatives for 2-3 M which can prove to be just as good as a 9-10 M signing. Not a chance in the world that f ex Collins or Distin will prove to be better than f ex Hangeland or Agger that was signed for clearly less money. Againsthesun |
Damian
said:
|
... Le Shava Arsenal fans are the most fickle in the league, but like Wenger, you'll say you've not seen that. But come on .. I've seen some Arsenal sites and you lot think you can win the league this season but last season some of your lot were calling for Wenger to go. What is it to be? Chiefy1 Not sure - maybe a bad back ... think he might be off soon, really do. especially as Heskey is very good when playing 4-5-1 too .. |
thesparkatron
said:
 |
... ... Can we have some perspective now please, winning at Anfield doesnt mean we're going to win the league in the same way that losing at home to Wigan doesn't mean we're going to get relegated. We cannot compete financially with the champions league 4 and Man City so there is no point getting frustrated about that. MON will not allow the club to get half a billion in debt, a decision we should be pleased about. We ran the top four close last season but need to compare ourselves against the likes of Everton and Tottenham. MON cannot spend £17m on a fullback, or £35m on a striker so he is building a team for the future, and we all need to be patient. Chopping and changing managers is what we've done for the last 20 years, to no avail, every manager gets three years, by which time the side is just about his and then he gets sacked, starting the cycle again, IT HAS NEVER WORKED AND NEVER WILL. Have faith in MON, at least until we've seen some regression, which believe it or not we haven't, we are still improving. The squad is not big enough and needs some additional quality but lets wait until the window closes, see how we get on on Thursday and save the doom-mongering until we've played 12 games and are not in the top 8. Patience and Perspective brave Villans. |
villarobin
said:
|
... LE SHAVA - We beat you, and doninated you !! Simple as... - "Already Everton have acquired the services of tricky winger/AM Bilyaletdinov" YEAH he sounds much better than Ashley Young / James Milner / Stewart Downing Ha Ha We will be strengthening our squad mate dont worry about that, you want to look at your own squad - VORONIN / BABEL / LUCAS = GARBAGE |
jk92923
said:
 |
...but we played 4-4-2 against wigan and lost we played 4 5 1 against Vienna too. i am not going to get caught up in the formation debate. 442 or 451, its the 11 men on the field who will prove which works. if they have the desire to win, they will win. if we lose on Sunday with 4-5-1.....will you be retracting everything you have said to this point about 451 being the only answer? and then imagine if we win with 442 down the road...will you agree that maybe 442 is the best formation? this is not a match winning calculation game, it takes commitment, heart and desire from every player to make any formation work. 442/451....this topic is taking too much focus. |
leighton
said:
|
... le shava.... villa 2 break the top4 is as likely as u winning the league( unlikely at best) we need 2 strenghthen 2 do this, u just survive with torres & gerrard all season and as for spurs and man shitty havin better squads than us i was just about to say the same 2 u.... liverpool will struggle 2 finish top4 this season unless alonso is replaced soon.. |
leighton
said:
|
... lucas og, about the only time he will find the net this season, championship player.... |
GG
said:
 |
... Brilliant result - I've been following Villa for thirty years and the amount of victories we've had at Anfield can be counted on the fingers of one hand. There won't be many more teams who win there this season either, so it's a real achievement especially given the horrendous run of form we've had since Feb. Scousers are moaning about how much they're missing Alonso, but that's no more than we're having to cope with missing Barry. Besides, they had plenty of the game, it's just that we defended as a team for once rather than leaving it all to Brad and the the back four. Granted we had a bit of luck for a change, but I think the defensive performance merited it. It also showed why MON sticks with Agbonlahor despite his inability to score - opponents are scared stiff of his & Young's pace and wary of getting caught out. Sort of result that will help blow away the lack of confidence. You could see the belief growing as the game went on, especially in the way we responded to their goal. The only caveat is that it was an ideal situation for our counter-attacking setup. When we have to do the attacking at home against teams playing the same way we did last night, we lack the nouse & impetus to break through. Hopefully Thursday will prove me wrong again, but either way let's hope we get some new players in soon. Our paper thin squad won't be able to repeat last night's performance every week without reinforcements. Liverpool 1 - 3 Aston Villa.... looks bloody brilliant, doesn't it? Have some of that, Hansen! |
AA
said:
 |
... All the MON faithfull make me laugh.. After one good result ou come on having a go at anyone who dares question things. Does this just make you as bad..! I'm not saying I'm a moaner by default, but in our 4th season and 7th transfer window under MON and can't believe we are still sorting out formation. I really want MON or whoever is our manager to have success, but I have to be convinced that MON does actually have the balls to take us to the next level. I firmly believe that had we not signed Heskey and had signed a coule of other players fro defence and midfeild in Jan we would have had CL football and the top name player a load of you keep talkning about would have been realistic target this summer. But alas it got fecked up and they won't be coming. So before you start telling anyone that you say is a doom and gloom monger to get back under a stone etc etc, let's just see how things pan out shall we. You lot are as fickle as the moaners. Get real..! |
Benavfc89
said:
|
... thesparkatron Definatly agree we should be patient he will build a young squad. but i think only 1 person will benefit from that and it will be Learner who will sell for double the price. Why can we not compete with Arsenal. They buy young CHEAP players from abroad. Why cant we go and find the next Fabregas, Diaby, Eduardo. The reason we cant spend is because Brittish talent is too expensive. |
chrisb
said:
|
... Damian- I dont think its ok by MON. Read his comments this morning. Villa fans have all week to moan, fair enough, but if we dont get behind them he will walk. And there will be plenty of takers. The fact that MON refused to do his usual wave last night when implored to by the fans said it all. |
Damian
said:
|
... jk92923 yes we did start with 4-5-1 but it only lasted 50 minutes. o'neill should have stuck with it the formation debate is a big one and seeing as i've been banging the drum for two seasons now, and it is all over the web, it will be very difficult for me to retract it and i wont be in fact what i'm saying is we need a proper run with it. last season when milner came in, i berated his play. when we moved to 4-5-1 i started praising him, saying how he was getting better. when we went back to 4-4-2, i think (this is just my opinion) that he dropped off again last night, i thought he was excellent, as all the players were but it is about consistency. it is about playing players to their strengths and in my opinion again, we are stronger playing 4-5-1 |
VDV
said:
 |
... mon got the tactiks spot on. we kept gerrard and torres out the game for long parts. petrov davis and freidal were all outstanding. they were all brill. lets go and beet rapid and fullam and catch spurs and city. still need new faces. |
Damian
said:
|
... chrisb sorry, i've not maybe explained myself well enough. i don't think o'neill thinks it is okay to boo, but what he is saying is 'if you pay your money, you can'. he is saying 'its a right' not that he thinks it is good: "I'm staggered by what's going on. To get the abuse we got against Wigan was not warranted. "You pay your money and you can go for it if you want but that can be disheartening for young players." |
Le Shava
said:
|
... "Arsenal fans are the most fickle in the league"? funny you should say that, Eboue incident aside, i don't remember ever booing our team off at half time because we were 0-1 down. No sir, that title belongs to your own. I don't want to turn this into a slinging match. However, you really do need to calm down. This result is not going to propel you to great things because you simply do not have the quality to compete this year. Im sorry, but it is true. When you play the likes of Spurs and City i am sure this will hit home harder than ever. ...Never mind, by the next couple of games gravity will see you touch ground and my words will be getting repeated by your very own...On this site too. As for Arsenal fans wanting Wenger out, no TRUE fan would ever want Wenger out. We may criticise him, but asking for him to be relieved of his duties? Never! I distance myself from those "Gooners" as much as i distance myself from the suggestion that you lot will break the top four. I am predicting 7th or 8th for you lot this season. |
Tim Hillman
said:
 |
... Le Shava - Why bother coming on this blog just to call us fickle. I appreiciate it's good to get another fans opinion on different topics but to just come on to wind people up is just ridiculous. Not many teams can go to Anfield and win so let us enjoy this moment. You are not even a Liverpool fan and you obviously didn't watch the game if you think we were lucky. Unless of course all the newspaper pundets are completely wrong as well. Unless you have something constructive to say, don't say aything! |
Tony
said:
|
... On the subject of Carew he has a track record with falling out with Managers and clubs after a couple of years. I expect him to be gone before the end of this transfer window. If so I do hope he is part ex plus cash against a quality player. |
Tjeiken
said:
 |
... Damien, this is a player i really want u to have a good look at Makhtar Thioune from Molde, same club as Mame diouf that Man UTD bought.. I am from this town in norway cheering for Molde and Aston Villa ofc. But all i can say there has never been a player in norway than thioune.. Just want you to take a look at him and tell me what u think.. cant find a vid of him.. but he is the sort of player u could see fit in the PL and he has the best technique ive ever seen.. and all u that want huseklepp and skjelbreid, thioune is so much better i cant describe it... Molde beat rosenborg 5-0 skjelbreid is on rosenborg and thioune is best player in our league in the cold north |
Le Shava
said:
|
... I am no Liverpool fan. Read my name, moron. James Milner and Stewart Downing? LOL! Average players at best. Young is good but very overrated. When will you lot come back to earth. Your squad is poor. |
thesparkatron
said:
|
... - BenAVFC89 - You're right, it would be nice to have the european scouting network set up that Arsenal have, that said, there aren't many teams that do seem to identify genuine quality before anyone else has heard of them, other than Arsenal does any premiership team really sign young, cheap players that go on to be superstars? I would guess that under HDE our european scouting network was relatively understaffed, whereas Wenger and Arsenal have had an extensive programme in placefor at least a decade, I would hope we are trying to improve on that score, but buying young and English is ok with me, they are on the costly side, but then they retain their 'value' pretty well too. Didn't we make a profit on Zat Knight for example? I'd love to have Arsenals scouts, Man City's money, Liverpools European Cups and Man U's tealady, but we haven't and we need to be positive about what we do have. |
chrisb
said:
|
... AA-dont be an idiot. By all means criticise, moan, question MON as much as you want. We all do. But when the game starts all that has to go to the side and fans need to get behind the team. If you think there is something wrong with that and that constitutes some of us as being fickle then I am sorry you feel that way. |
Damian
said:
|
... Le Shava Have you done a Google search for 'fickle arsenal fans' if not you might be surprised by the results. As for getting carried away, I don't think I am, I think maybe you are misunderstanding what I've written or you've not read it. We are a long way off but not as far as you think. I mean, we got the better of your team last season. As for 'true fans' not wanting Wenger out, it sort of doesn't matter, you had Arsenal fans calling for Wengers head last season - they are Arsenal fans and probably consider themselves true Arsenal fans. Just because their definition of it is different to yours doesn't mean they're not fickle. |
Le Shava
said:
|
... "let's just see how things pan out shall we. You lot are as fickle as the moaners. Get real..!" Truer words have rarely been spoken. Hat off to you AA |
jk92923
said:
|
... Damien, as a side note, i agree 451 is the way to go as i think it provides better football but i dont think we win or lose becasue the way the guys are shaped on the field (given its 451 or 442)...i blame the guys on the field, full stop. we started well last season with 442, carew got injured and we continued to do well, becasue, i beleive, the players ahd the belief every game that they played they could win weather it was either of the chosen formations. they fell behind becasue of tiredness, lack of invention and predictability. i dont think by switching back to 451 at the time would have made much of a difference. for example, gabby set up Carew for a handful of goals last season on the 442, which may not have been the case had Carew been alone. without the men being driven behind him, we may have lost more than we won (granted that was not many) although its all hindsight, i still feel the formation is a relative discussion as we will at some point lose and we cant blame the formation....so we will naturally blame MON. other than that....i haven't stopped smiling since about 9.47 last night |
Richard
said:
 |
... Great result but I personally think it's too late. MON looks totally dejected and I fear we may have already lost the best manager we have had in years and doubtless some of our better players too. |
Ray Knowles
said:
|
... I think its as much about team selection as it is formation. Against teams like Wigan we should be able to beat them playing 4-4-2, I think the problem was maybe trying to pair Heskey and Gabby up front (who I don't think play well together) and playing Delph over Nigel Reo-Coker. If Carew was properly injured at Wigan then if I'd been MON rather than play both Heskey and Gabby up front (which doesn't work), I would have reverted to the 4-5-1 and definitely would have played Reo-Coker (who was excellent in the Peace Cup), either instead of or alongside the debutant Delph. |
VDV
said:
|
... VILLA SHOULD GO FOR ANDERSON AT MAN U. HE HAS FALLEN OUT WITH FURGI AND THEY WANT TO SELL HIM> WATCH HIS YOUTUBE VIDS. HE HAS EVREYTHING. SPPED,SKILL,DETERMINATION,BOX TO BOX, GREAT PASSER, GOOD SHOT. |
Altan Kargaci
said:
 |
... MON's comments are a little worrying I think , he is clearly pissed with all the booing going on at Villa park . Personally I don't get to go to Villa Park all that often , but when I do I'm always disapointed with the lack of atmosphere and support. Get behind your team people it's not a f**king panto !! What next , he's behind you !! The Carew thing is also a bit of a worry , not much if any news coming from the club . Is he ill/injured or is this just a smokescreen ? Wearing my Villa shirt with pride today btw , well done boys. UTV |
Damian
said:
|
... jk92923 i agree it is about who plays, but even martin o'neill talks about how disheartening it can be for a player to hear boos, how disheartening do you think it is when you are playing in a 4 man midfield and you are getting run ragged? last night demonstrated the power of a five man midfield, not only to the game, but to how the team works together and how those players worked together there will always be a debate on formation and when o'neill finally settles on this, we will then start to debate players, substitutions, the demise of arsenal when wenger retires or something else .. but for me and i think most know this, it is an important one, because it sort of defines not just the football, but the mentality, the club and ethos |
Biriani
said:
 |
... It is absurd to think that MON has listened to the people and changed the way the team play - the ultimate delusion. If anybody really thinks that MON is that dumb they must think the club is in very bad hands indeed. The views on MON have ranged from idiotic buffoon to not very decisive ditherer. If we are lucky, he's about to prove us all wrong |
Nathan T
said:
 |
... Isn't it funny that this 'poor squad' did arsenal on their own turf last year. funny that.................. |
Damian
said:
|
... faangler i dont think anyone is suggesting martin o'neill came onto a blog or any website and said, 'wow, maybe i should change to 4-5-1' in fact, i think if he were to have done that, i think he would have changed a long time ago becasue this site, me and doc and a few others, having been calling for it for a long time if anything, the amount of time it has taken him to change sort of suggests that he isn't listening or visiting websites otherwise it might have happened a lot sooner i think most are just happy that he did it |
Platypus
said:
 |
... Yeah, "LOL" Le Shava. Seriously LOL-ing. Laughing out loud at a man who can't see that we're building a squad of young players and a great academy (sound familiar?) and are more than happy to have the arrogant "Sky 4" club's supporters just write us off. Your manager seems to like what we're putting together here, so maybe he knows what he's talking about after all. |
jk92923
said:
|
... has anyone on this blog, ever had the urge to go onto another teams blog and make lame comments about their beloved team??? speaking for myself, i have never had the urge..... |
Le Shava
said:
|
... "Isn't it funny that this 'poor squad' did arsenal on their own turf last year. funny that.................." Mate, Hull did the same. I suppose they are top four contenders as well, lol. Any side can lose a game. Maybe if you could get to grips with that then you lot wouldn't go from "sack o'neill" to "he is the best manager other than fergy" in the space of 7 or 8 days, lol. |
Le Shava
said:
|
... yes, LOL-ing i am. Mainly because i am Laughing Out Loud. Take it as a compliment. You are amusing me.  |
Faccundo
said:
|
... Randy make a signing NOW! We can make Champions League - it's there for the taking in this, the most open season for ages City will take points off our competitors for fourth, as will Spurs If Everton make some signings before the window closes with their Lescott cash they will help us as well I just hope we get the signings necessary to kick on - the necessity for providing the cash resides with Lerner Spend the necessary funds! MON will make it work! Unfortunately I fear Lerner may be planning to profit from the sale of Carew as I blogged last week - I just hope it's not to our competitors and we get some players out of it, rather than cash which Lerner will probably take anyway For a list of suggested signings see comment 36 and add Kranjcar and Carrick (fall out w Fergie) to the list |
Le Shava
said:
|
... "We can make Champions League - it's there for the taking in this, the most open season for ages" Hilarious |
James
said:
 |
... Le Shava - You say that you distance yourself from the people at Arsenal who were saying 'sack Wenger' last season yet you tar all Villa fans with the same brush. Get real. Don't you think there's people on the Villa side also who were distancing themselves from those who were saying 'sack O'Neill' last week? |
Christian
said:
 |
... Le Shava, you often offer decent insight and perspective in your posts. But today, perhaps an exception, you're just being an absolute donut. The fans on here that you're calling fickle are the exact same fans who have been saying 'keep the faith' for weeks to people like myself. There's nobody on here who has changed their mind since last night, look at Jinsky for example! There's just less of the negative bloggers on here at the moment. I'm eating a bit slab of humble pie, I didn't see that result at all and I certainly didnt think MON would go back to 4-5-1. I felt he was so stubborn he'd stick with 4-4-2 even if it meant costing him his job. I was wrong. The biggest thing for me was the absence of Heskey, we look an entirely different side without him, although much of that may be due to the formation. I'm not doing cartwheels yet though, some of the more sensible points Le Shava makes are accurate. We do have a tiny squad and we desperately need all those players/roles we have been discussing all summer. But I'm more positive today (not so much for the amazing result), but fot the fact that we have a manager who CAN change things and ISN'T as stubborn as I believed and WILL drop his 'favourites' for the good of the team. |
Le Shava
said:
|
... i'm going to save that quote and then re-post it when you come back from The Reebok & KC Stadium with your tales between your legs... |
Faccundo
said:
|
... La Shava what's hilarious is your club having to explain to fans in its match program what you should do with club scarves - ie wave them above your head and bring them to your next clash From memory didn't we earn 4 points off you mugs last season while u got 1? Your kindergarten will get pasted this week at Old Trafford - come back and talk to us then |
RichT
said:
 |
... A great way to kick start our season but thats all it is - a start. We cannot forget what has gone before. Greater numbers to bolster the squad and more quality additions are required. Just hope this great victory doesn't gloss over the cracks. What MON does in the next 7 days may well shape our season. What we NEED- A quality CB or two to allow some squad rotation. A creative MF player to link with the striker. A striker- a strong, mobile, quick fella with a quality finish. UTV |
OJay
said:
 |
... Brad was man of the match! What sickens me is that Villa fans that were saying yesturday we had no chance and that villa are shit are now on this today saying villa are deadly and are going to get into europe! Make up your mind |
Le Shava
said:
|
... "Your kindergarten will get pasted this week at Old Trafford - come back and talk to us then" I doubt that, and to be honest, im sure you do too. Man U look a far weaker side this season, whilst we have progressed. The sale of Toure and Adebayor was a master stroke by our highly rated Frenchman. |
Wezavfc
said:
 |
... le-We will all see the so called "quality" of your squad when you come up against someone who is actually going to challenge for the title this season (unlike you lot) aka the big 3, and not just demolishing teams in very bad form. On last nights result we did not allow them to play and they got frustrated SIMPLES! |
gregdavillainsays 'Randy Show me the money'
said:
|
... hahah la shava is worried about us again thats why he is on!! After the shock we gave arsenal last year i wudnt blame you la shava. Some arsenal fan you are bigging spurs up over us, you obviously arnt even an arsenal fan are you? Maybe blue in disguise. If you are arsenal well id like to inform you of a few things. No one on here is geting carried away with last nights result just really enjoying it. We know its going to be a tough year with the teams in and around us. But it doesnt mean we will give up. No way pal. It you arrogant arsenal fans who are the ones losing the run of yourselves, you really need to get your feet back on the ground. You had a great win v everton the team in the weaker half of mersey side. But like us a good win in liverpool doesnt mean instant success just a great feeling and pride for now this early in the season. You beat a poor celtic team with 2 fluky goals in the champs qualifier. You beat a very poor portmouth side by a very flattering result, although you deserved to win the game if pompey had brought their shooting boots it would have been a close contested game, how about utakas miss? unforgivable that. Plus your keeper is terrible, and showed it that game. You lose your best stiker in adebayor, and a decent defender in kolo toure, big players like that dont stay at clubs who dont win anything in 4 years when their rivals are winning all around them. Now its easy see why you come on here to try and rise us. When your bubble bursts and you play a tough team like stoke and getted kicked around and your youngsters dont step up tp the plate i welcome you on here then. But i think manchester is up next, and uh oh no fabregas!! oh well looks like your bubble will be bursting a bit earlier, and when we win we will be equal on points with a game in hand. Good luck for the rest of your season and good luck in the north london derby because your youth team will need it. |
Faccundo
said:
|
... Le Shava Don't really want to talk bout goon today, the biggest football story is the Villa that's why your ere When was the last time you won at Anfield in the league? Oh that's right you can't remember Get googling son |
confusedvillafan
said:
 |
... le bollock shaver has to have a name like that to fit in down the arse, bet its just like watching marseille |
Tjeiken
said:
|
... We should have a shout at VP: in MON we trust, and i want everyone to sing IN MONT WE TRUST! and just keep it going |
Altan Kargaci
said:
|
... Seriously people just ignor Le Shava, he's just looking for the attention he craves. Think we should give a mention to our defence which looked solid last night. Quick question was it solid because they had a rare good game or was it down to the protecting playing 4-5-1 gives? Shorey in particullar looked great on the ball last night , quick feet and good delivery from set plays. If we sign Warnock and at least one CB plus Luke young returning we will have loads of half decent options at the back. Tuncay would for me be a great signing and would play the lone striker role perfectly with his movement and hold up play . Have a feeling Carew will be leaving .  UTV |
Le Shava
said:
|
... Thanks for the lengthy post, Greg. Although i must say, it is 95% drivel. Ah well, cant have your cake and eat it i suppose... "You lose your best stiker in adebayor, and a decent defender in kolo toure, big players like that dont stay at clubs who dont win anything in 4 years when their rivals are winning all around them." Oh how observant of you. I really am impressed. Well i guess that's it then, you have found us out. We are clearly struggling with their departures. Scoring 12 and conceding 2 in the last 3 games lol. "Some arsenal fan you are bigging spurs up over us, you obviously arnt even an arsenal fan are you?" Make no mistake, i detest Spurs. I am relatively blinded by my hatred for them...but even Stevie Wonder could see just how superior they are too you in terms of management, squad and finances "But i think manchester is up next, and uh oh no fabregas!! oh well looks like your bubble will be bursting a bit earlier" Don't be surprised to see Cesc make a "miraculous" return just prior to the game, mate. Anyway, even if he doesn't, i guess we will just have to move that terrible player, Arshavin into his position, and then move crappy Van Persie to the left...but then who is gonna play up front!?... Oh NO! We will have to play that awful finisher Eduardo there, DAMN! we are in for a thrashing!...lol And all this whilst the likes of Walcott, Nasri and Rosicky are injured...I love strength in depth, don't you? |
paul mclafferty
said:
 |
... the lads played their hearts out last night but it doesnt make the season, lets hope we can kick start from here. but im sorry lads i still cant see it, and it will all mean a one off result. and i am not fickle, i pay my money and have a right to cheer or boo the team when they play good or shite. |
Tim Hillman
said:
|
... Now that Lescott has joined Man City, why not try to get Richards. He is young British, centre Back, fits all the criteria. |
BigKie1981
said:
 |
... Le Shaver - Get back onto your own blog site, or is it all in french now so you have to invade others. We are proud of our club and dont trash talk(apart from the noses) We dont care about your club or players or how good they are! i would just love to see uefa impose the foreign player limit, oh but you would be ok cos Almeina can have a british passport now LOL UTV VTID H.E.I.T.S |
lamps
said:
 |
... Villa outclassed Liverpool? If you class spending 80 minutes of a game defending as outclassing a side then no wonder you Villa fans are known for your lack of knowledge of the game, as O'Neill pointed out last night. You got a couple of lucky away wins last season but you still couldnt break the top 4. Youre not a bad side away from home where O'Neills hang on for dear life and then counter attack works every now and againbut generally youre as poor as O'Neills previous sides, Celtic and Leicester. You have ZERO chance of the top 4 and I would bet any one of you any amount of money that you dont even get top 6. Anyway, us (Chelsea) and United are the teams to beat, lets see if you win at either of our grounds. I doubt it very much. |
AA
said:
|
... chrisb - The argument is always lost when you start calling people names as a basis for a debate or argument. I am far from an idiot chris. Please tell me where I said anything about not supporting the team on the pitch. I attend games and will shout for my team as much as the next man. If you read my post again you will see I was pointing out how fickle some are that have a go at anyone who dares express an opinion of disgust at how players play or how MON performs. For your info chrisb, I support ASTON VILLA, not the player or the manager. They are not beyond criticism. I will point out that I never boo the team and never will, but I am intelligent enough to question what happens at VP. So by calling a fellow Villa fan an idiot, is that not stooping to the same level as those that boo the team. I'll let you think about that one chrisb, seeing as you have all the answers. |
BigKie1981
said:
|
... Anyone remember the noise at Villa 2 - 0 Chelsea VP a couple of seasons ago? we need that noise back !!!!!!!! |
Damian
said:
|
... lamps did you watch the game last night? if you had, you would have seen that in the first half, it was our game, more shots and more on target, equal possession naturally that changed in the second half as it would for any team that went in 2-0 after the first 45 but it doesn't take away that for the first 45 we outclassed liverpool and for the second, we did more than enough to secure the victory |
Mike Carter
said:
 |
... Ironic that Le Shaving or whoever he is predicts 7th or 8th for us, because I predict 5th or 6th for Arsenal. |
Leroy
said:
|
...Damian said: Sorry Damian but i fail to see the insightful content with Le Shava. You would have seen plenty of his posts and they are always directed at stirring shit. If i was to have said something similar, i would have been called a fickle w****r myself. The fact that he supports Arsenal doesnt change the certain stance that he takes against Villa. Steve the toffee is the best example of a foreign fan. He is one of the very very few that offer an impartial view to both Villa and his own side, in this case Everton. Im sorry, but if people dont have this same impartiality then why are they here? To stir shit.... |
paul mclafferty
said:
|
... lamps.... are you one of the 14000 who turhed up to stamford bridge before the money came? i doubt it. glory hunting w****r. |
gregdavillainsays 'Randy Show me the money'
said:
|
... Your welcome La shava and many thanks for the equally long but ridiculous reply. Again you big up your local rivals, i seriously doubt your credentials as a 'True' arsenal fan. I supose you wont miss adebayor as you have bentner now to fill in, and since you cudnt mug any club to take senderous you have a ready made replacement for toure. Haha you make me laugh how you can get carried away with 3 wins over with 2 of em over particularly poor opposition. And you laugh at us for enjoying beating liverpool in anfield by a 2 goal margin with a team whos squad, management and finances are inferior to north london giants spurs???!! haha mate take off the rose tinted glasses!! Play an injured fabregas if you think it'l help your chances but dont be so nieve, you think manchester have weakend last year? yes they have but so have you. And as for your strenght and depth, nasri walcott and rosiky will always miss more games than they play, a bit like your old hero darren anderthon 'sicknote' i think he was called with affection by your old chums up the road. Will rosicky ever play again? Is nasri really consistent enough? Is walcott actually good enough? can they ever be fit for a run of 10 games? Oh my friend its not all rosy in your garden and thats why you come in to mine to take a shit. |
keithj
said:
 |
... although i dislike the booing of our players i think i can safely say that had they lost last night they would have been cheered off for the commitment they showed |
Darragh McGeown
said:
 |
... La Shava - I'm not going to offer an opinion on what have posted above but instead I want to address the manner in which it has posted. I feel truly sorry for you that you feel the need to come on this blog and have a go. Are you own blogs that boring? Or is it just that your life is that boring you have to come on here and try and make yourself feel good. Utterly pathetic! The only silverware Arsenal will be lifting this year will be the LADIES league and FA Cup |
Le Shava
said:
|
... Fair enough Vivavilla, we will have to see. Anyway lads, im off. Cheers for the banter. |
Abdul Kashif
said:
 |
... Lamps, did you forget your glasses somewhere mate? What game were you watching? We outclassed Liverpool tactically. O'Neill got it spot by switching to 4-5-1. Yep, Liverpool hufed and puffed and pressurised, as any of the top 4 would do at home, but the fact is that they couldn't break through. We're not a top 4 team at the moment and it'll be difficult this season to make that breakthrough, I can admit that. It'd be different if we had £100 million to spend but we don't. Who gives a shit what happens at 'your' ground and how we play.. That's our problem. |
Richard
said:
|
... AA - What do you support then, not the manager, not the team, then what - serious question |
ruffy
said:
|
... I think a few are trying to read too much into this result. Great scoreline as it is, we owe it to the fact the Liverpool missed and open goal and then scored one for us. One thing we all must agree now on, and get on the case of anyone who does it at Villa Park, is the booing at 45 minutes into the season. It is flipping ridiculous. VILLAFANS ARE GETTING A VERY BAD REPUTATION AS BEING THE MOST FICKLE IN THE LEAGUE. WE MUST HAVE MORE FAITH AND EVEN PERHAPS LOWER OUR EXPECTATIONS AT LEAST FOR TIME BEING. |
Juan Pablo Angel
said:
 |
... Damien, Firstly I think outclassed is a little strong, frustrated would be more realistic, but I don't think it's a suprise that we won this. Liverpool are misfiring after losing one of their best players and because of how well Reo played we snuffed out Gerard for large sections of the match. There were several extended periods where we had to just batten down the hatches and wing it and I thought Cuellar and Davies showed a bit of Laursen about the way they got on the end absolutely everything. From a neutral perspective it was a really good game and i'm pleased to see the Villa of last year. We kept the ball and moved it around very well at times down both flanks, Jimmy was absolutely brilliant as well as the whole rest of the team. Anyone who said Habib Beye is s**t needs to eat their hat, He has played champions league and won numerous french domestic titles and the UEFA cup and he showed why last night. Shorey looks a different player and could be like a new signing this season. My only doubt hangs over Sidwell who I think will be replaced by Delph when he has adjusted to the pace of the PL, but I can see, given the way he plays, him being a valuable addition in that advanced role. I like the idea of NRC and Delph playing in front of Petrov. Imagine the choice we'll have when Downing is fit! Just for those who doubted Gabby last night, how many other young strikers in the league could have played up top on his own, against one of the most impressive defensive units in the league, where we were on the back foot for large chunks of the game and played most of our football in our own half, and still managed to play as well as he did. The lad ran his socks off, tirelessly chasing everything, running the channels and getting back. I thought he deserved a goal, but it was a match where clear cut chances were few and far between. Give him a break, I think he was more effective than Heskey or Carew would have been. We really are a 4-3-3 when we break because NRC, Ash and Gabby are among the quickest players in the league...looking dangerous. Friedel is not too old as he showed last night, anyone who questions his quality is mental. How good was Davies header? Brilliant finish in my book and reminded me of Laursens danger at set pieces. If he can pick up 5 or 6 more of those this year it will be so important. We still need a CB and i'd take almost anyone. It would be nice to see another midfielder in, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Wheater or Taylor are most likely along with Warnock. If we beat Vienna on thursday MoN is gonna have to beat players off with a stick. I am so glad my faith has been rewarded and this blog is a pleasant place to be without the naysayers on it. Liverpool Fans, We know how it feels to lose an important player and have your manager sign a crocked replacement. I thought we were lucky last night not to concede early and we scored at vital times in the match. I concede that Liverpool are capable of better, but last night we frustrated you and won the ball consistently in midfield. You don't need the ball when you defend as well as we did and your reject Keeper won it for us last night. Cheers. You have to be worried when a defence full of internatinals looks so vulnerable to set pieces, I think Rafa needs to make this a priority because you wouldn't have lost if you defended better. Good luck for the season, can we have Gerard and Torres please? lol JPA |
Nigel Wheeler
said:
 |
... Great result - disappointed by the reported criticism today by MON of the Villa fans reaction to the Wigan defeat. Well I suggest he takes a long look in the mirror. It was the nature of the defeat that enraged many fans. Lazy performance. So back on a positive note we defended and attacked well against the mighty Liverpool and even Curtis stopped playing as if he was in a pub team. |
paul mclafferty
said:
|
... ghost hunter... AA is saying villa are bigger than one man,and i think you know that, so stop trying to conjur up a arguement one bloody win and everthing is cosha..... |
ChicoHamiltonPants
said:
 |
... An official bid put in for nun other then Distain. This has just been reported by SSN. |
kieron
said:
 |
... Damo, I do worry that our fans are a lttle fickle, especially after comments by MON after the game. Basically if things go wrong I can see MON walking out and that would be a real shame. |
Altan Kargaci
said:
|
... SSN yellow bar villa bid for distan. Bloke on SSN just said Sol Campbell turned down a late move by Villa to sign him , he's now going to Nott's County !! |
AA
said:
|
... I just logged back in and was going to answer Ghosthunter, but thanks to holteend paul for doing it. Stop on Paul. Ghosthunter...What you have to realise is a lot of us have supporter Villa for many, many years. Players and managers come and go. Too many manager for my liking in the past..! The only constant is ASTON VILLA. You turn up at the game wit your mates, have the banter etc and watch the match. That will always happen whoever is playing or managing. When I mean fickle, all the MON faithfull conveniently forget what happened at the end of last season, or how we went 2 years without a RB and how we threw UEFA away etc etc, when we win one game. Would we all be this giddy had we won playing against Wolves last night..? No, thought not. I just mean, let's enjoy the moment, but let's not start saying all is sorted and we will be top 4 and start having a go at people that question things.  |
scott1
said:
 |
... great result!just hope mon sticks with 451 even at home because its still an attacking formation.rc was awesome so was beye.his composure was good,he was dummying and cutting inside and there was always a pass on!still think we can play this formation even when downing is fit with a young switching to the right and milner replacing sidwell.i know i keep banging this drum but i think he could be excellent in a 3 man midfield.he can tackle,has an unlimited engine,tracks back well and can come deep for the ball.with a 451 gabby/heskey and carew can be rotated and kept fresh.the defence was awesome.more of the same thursday please!! |
Tim Hodgetts
said:
 |
... 4-5-1 was right last night but it is overly simplistic to say that it is right all the time. as usual damian you ignore the facts that don't support your argument. the basic reason we didn't make top 4 last year was that our home form all season was poor. there were plenty of 0-0s at home when we forced into playing 4-5-1 which had they been 1-0 wins would have seen us into the champions league. i guarantee that if we play 4-5-1 at home all season we'll have loads of 0-0s and the morons will then kick off about that. on a separate point I hope that this win will keep all the aforementioned morons of o'neill's back, but I doubt it. I suppose I should take comfort from the fact that every club has it's fair share (various callers into 606 last night saying rafa has to go immediately) but we seem to have more than most. MON makes his fair share of mistakes and isn't perfect but he cares about the club and is trying to build a team for the next 5 years not the next 5 minutes. I am afraid that there are plenty who go to VP and use this site who just don't understand that and who seem to think that we have a divine right to immediate success. grow up. |
Mostyn
said:
|
... Nigel, MON was rightly hacked off because of the booing at half time in the first competitive game of the season. These are the fickle fans who will undoubtedly push MON out of the door. We would struggle to replace such a fantastic Man and Manager. Boo all you like at the end of a game but FFS cheer the boys on. At worst this will raise their spirits. |
paul mclafferty
said:
|
... i sat in the holte last week and never heard any booing at half time, was it comming from the trinity? |
jk92923
said:
|
... Moystn - that sort of reminds me how the Americans lost focus of "booing" the war and were told to support their troops. it worked and you are called non-american for not supporting the troops. now, dont get me wrong, the comparisons are ridulous that i have pointed out, but i agree, support the players regardless weather you think the one man on the sideline is good/bad. give the boys the urgency and belief by being the loudest fans in England! UTV! |
tom t
said:
 |
... nicky shorey did have a good game, but don't you dare blame his terrible performances on the formation, he is simply NOT good enough, apart from that a rare, well argued piece of writing, well done. B+ |
AA
said:
|
... Yes thats a good point. Where did all this report of booing at half time come from...? It certainly did not come from the Holte. I heard nothing at all at half time. Maybe two fans booed that were sitting directly behind MON. Can anyone else on here accurately state that they either booed or herad booing at HT last week..?! If not, is MON just making this up to have a tantrum and/or make excuses..? |
jk92923
said:
|
... i was watching it online and i heard the booing. not as loud as Full time but booing nonetheless. no idea where it was coming from.... |
Chris Harper
said:
 |
... jesus christ, this blog has become depressing.... We have an Arsenal supporters who just comes on and wind people up (why haven't you banned him yet Damian??) and Villa fans who just like to argue with each other and call each other names. Anyway, superb performance last night. I never saw that result coming. I watched it with my sis and her bf of whom are both Liverpoo supporters. They said at the end, 'its because we've lost Alonso who is such an important player..... Remember Barry and Laursen? Thats all I had to say! Bring on Rapid and Fulham! Please keep that team and formation MON!! Please! |
gregdavillainsays 'Randy Show me the money'
said:
|
... i wonder has the distin offer been leaked by pompey in hope everton will better the bid? |
Mostyn
said:
|
... AA I don't think anybody is getting carried away with the result. You seem to be picking minor holes in a team which is now exciting to watch thanks to MON. I have watched Villa for years and other than the early 80's we have been dull at best. We wouldn't have made the CL or won the league if we'd bought a RB. MON chose right to not focus on Europe last year. Our squad might not be huge, but it is building in quality. MON will continue to add to our team. Other fans really worry about playing us now. We used to be a laughing stock. In a couple of seasons we will be serious contenders for all competitions. |
Deano avfc
said:
 |
... ----i wonder has the distin offer been leaked by pompey in hope everton will better the bid? It's usually leaked by the agent so he can maximize his slice of the pie.. UTV |
Richard
said:
|
... AA - thanks for that. It was perhaps unfair of me to single you out for that question. I do agree that no single person is bigger than Aston Villa and we are right to point out areas of concern or disappointment but it would be nice for us to focus on the good things instead of always looking for the negative. Having read this site for a number of years now, it is as clear as day there are for more negative people than positive ones and that's disappointing. |
Simeon
said:
 |
... AA, what you have to realise that debating with alot of people on this site is impossible. Many simply don't have sufficient insight into the game of football to express valid opinions. Still others apparently have an inadequate grasp of the English language, let alone football. Just as the Wigan result was one game (and so too were the 20 or so games before that one...), so this Liverpool result is one game also. The reactions to both results have, frankly, been embarrassing - although typical of football fans everywhere, not just Villa fans. I will happily confess to being truly depressed at the direction in which Villa are going after last season's capitulation. The fact that we beat a Liverpool team who were well below par yesterday (and how hilarious it was to see the ridiculously overrated Gerrard look like a pub player!) doesn't alter the direction in which we are going. I can understand, as I posted yesterday, fans getting carried away on a wave of euphoria, because these fans don't have the anchor of rational thought to immunise themselves against the threat of prevailing winds. What really depresses me is the abject failiure of many to watch a game of football and understand what is happening in front of them. As I said, Liverpool were very poor yesterday, but their poor performance was down to their inability to pass the ball even moderately well. Given the amount of posession they had, and in dangerous areas, and the number of misplaced passes, it is obvious that we didn't quite succeed in stopping them from playing. Also, the number of saves Friedel had to make demonstrates that we didn't quite manage to stop them from threatening our goal. In contrast, can somebody name me one save Reina had to make? And can anybody remember Reina being required to make a quality save? But let's give some credit where it's due. 4-5-1 was exactly the right formation for us to play last night (and is in general, as has been well-documented on this site). The midfield was congested, offering essential cover to our defence. This meant that Liverpool couldn't just waltz through our team as happened so often last season and against Wigan last week. We were set up in such a manner so as to require Liverpool to play well if they were to win. But they didn't play well, despite having the opportunity to do so, as the amount of chances they created, and the number of saves Friedel made confirms. I have hardly mentioned the attacking threat we offered, and with good reason, because there was virtually none! The one dangerous moment I remember was when Gabby was able ot put in a very tasty centre, with his left foot, that Reo Coker was inches away from getting on the end of. Other than that, there was nothing. The first (own) goal was a fluke. The second goal was from a corner, and credit to Shorey and Davies for the delivery and finish, but how many times is that going to happen this season? And obviously the third was the penalty, needlessly gifted by Gerrard. The lads battled hard, and I'll admit that I wasn't anticipating that. Perhaps Carew has been a disruptive influence of late, and his absence from the get-go benefited the group. But talk of O'Neill being a tactical genius is a sick joke. We worked hard, took advantage of the luck that came our way, and deserved to win as much because of our efforts as because Liverpool deserved to lose. Thursday will be very interesting. |
Simeon
said:
|
... tom t, how good a game did Shorey really have, when you consider that Glen Johnson was probably their biggest attacking threat, and repeatedly got himself into dangerous positions inside our box? |
AA
said:
|
... I can't agree Ghosthunter with you there. On the whole I find the posts positive on here, which is a good thing. I also can't stand default negativity, but it also brasses me off if anyone dare question anything in a proper manner (I'm not talking about those that just come out with crap like 'MON OUT') and they get told they are fickle because they don't have faith. I personally am in neither camp. I just support the club. Players and managers and clerical staff etc are just employees of the club. If I think they should do something different I will say so. It does not mean I am right or know more than them, but it's just an educated opinion. In this forum we used to be able to come express our opinions and have some heated debate, but it just seems some want to throw mud and call childish names if you don't tow the party line. Are we not all VILLA..?! Whatever opinon you have...! |
Mostyn
said:
|
... Simeon, We played defensive football which allowed to Liverpool much of the possession, mostly in benign areas of the pitch. They have two of the world's best footballers in Gerrard and Torres so they were always going to get a chance. MON - Tactically got it right. Our biggest downfall is our lack of ability to keep hold of the ball. Everything rushes through at Mach 70. We were more effective when we used our midfield to develop play. Still too many hit and hopes to Gabby - Who's shite anyway. |
Simeon
said:
|
... Mostyn, I agree that by playing on the counter attack we would concede posession to Liverpool, and that's fair enough. The fact is that Liverpool failed to do enough with the posession they had to deserve anything more than the one goal they got. But they had the chance, because Reo Coker aside, none of our midfielders are good tacklers. What our midfield did was get in the way, and that was just about enough. What is criminal is that our two midfielders who can't tackle also offer very little going forward. A massive factor in our counter attacking success last season was Gareth Barry's range of passing, either pinging it 50 yards for Gabby or Ashley to run onto, or threading it to another player who could then advance the play themselves. Neither Petrov, Sidwell or Reo Coker can perform this role, which is why we had the hit and hopes, and why Gabby didn't look especially dangerous - although I strongly disagree that he is rubbish. |
Damian
said:
|
... ruffy I just spoke to a buddy at the game last night, a Liverpool fan too and he said there was booing from some at Anfield at half time ... |
gregdavillainsays 'Randy Show me the money'
said:
|
... simeon God your rhetoric and views always make me cringe so!! The points against Villa that you made could be made for nearly any winning team in any given match. You say the fans on here have no insight into football, well i can agree about some but to tarnish every1 with the same brush just makes you look a bit arrogant as if to say your views are the correct any ones. Thats whats makes me cringe. Anyway in a footbalm match there are 2 teams. A home team and an away team. The genersl consenus is that the home team have the advantage and are usually ecpected to put on the greater attacking show. Now for a team who has more or less finished top 4 in every year of the premiership this expectation is greater, and Liverpool who finished runners up last year play in a ground called anfield. This ground is probably one of the most daunting and intimidating fixtures in european and league football. Of the two teams who play out this 90 minutes, both teams in games create or get chances. The team who converts most chances into goals win. Last night our Aston Villa travelled to this fortress, and defended so well that we interupted the play of one of the most successfull teams who have been dominant in europe over the last cople of years, and made them look below par and made their talismatic player gerrard look like a 'pub player' as you put it. Any villa fan would give credit where credit is due. Even the most belligerent and negative posters must have seen a team full of spirit and determination last night, so much as to stifle a liverpool team, who themselves were not without their chances. In any game you need luck. Look at how we mauled wigan last year and got only a mere point. Liverpool by no means mauled us last night, and we got our reward for a hard working disiplined display. I would enjoy this win even more if my fellow villa supports would rejoice with me and support the team now that they have given us a famous victory at a famous ground. It wasn't all a case of us getting lucky goals, them playing terrible, yes we rode our luck at times but most teams dont convert every chance they get, and we got our reward yesterday for making ours and taking them, and if you cant be happy with that its a sad day for villa fans. |
Tony
said:
|
... Simeon I totally agree and said so earlier but in fewer words. " Great win - but how many shots did we have in open play that the keeper had to save. |
Mostyn
said:
|
... Liverpool fans are questioning whether leaving Torres up front on his own is such a good idea. They have lost twice this season already using 4-5-1 and may look to use Kuyt as a strike partner. If we are going to use a version of 4-5-1, I'd like to see Ash play 'in the hole' behind JC. Having gabby up front on his own isn't going to work for long. |
james
said:
 |
... la shava.............what a joke!!!! yes..you had alot of shots on goal and yes........you had alot of possesion.....which is to be expected but the reason we won last night is because we played as a TEAM, a solid unit. we don't need our big players to turn up to win games.....frustrate gerrard and torres and liverpool will put in a performance like last night. i'd love you know how many games liverpool have won when stevie g or torres aren't on song. we deserved all 3 points...................but i enjoy the fact you took the time to come on this blog and start bitchin!!! i love it when they bite!!!!! |
Jizzy Rimmer
said:
 |
... Guys just on the Carew debate, would anyone take a swap deal for Vagner Love? |
Write comment
Latest Rumours from the Web
- Rumour time: Karl Henry and Alexander Hleb
- Craig Gardner set to leave Aston Villa for Birmingham City
- Spurs want John Carew and they are willing to offer Robbie Keane if we stump up cash too
- Transfer window is open, speculation is mounting and Craig Gardner is off
- Emile Heskey: Will he stay or will he go?
Wemberlee t-shirt
Follow Us
More Posts
- Martin O'Neill off to Liverpool? Not in this lifetime
- Sinbad couldn't help Birmingham City, semi-final date confirmed and season ticket prices
- Aston Villa Academy make semi-final and Doyle and O'Hara
- Headache for Martin O'Neill equals discussion topic for Aston Villa fans
- John Carew Carew, Chelsea at Wemberlee and Mr Lerner, take more
- Aston Villa beat Reading, Carew scores three and Wemberlee
- Aston Villa at Reading, Lerner cash cow and the FA Cup
- Aston Villa travel to Reading in the FA Cup and seventh isn't the new fourth
- Aston Villa player threatens to quit and others will be leaving too
- Krulak talks, the club say thanks and Vidic isn't wrong
Partners and Friends
Lucozade Sport on Facebook
Lucozade Sport loves Football as much as we do. They’ve been fuelling Aston Villa players for over 15 years and using this expertise to support amateur Footballers across the country. Visit their Facebook page for expert advice, video clips and Football chat. 
Login
Latest World Cup 2010 News
|
|
Get your online avatar
This blog is Gravatar friendly. That basically means, if you use Gravatar and leave a comment, as long as it's the same email address you registered at both sites, we'll show your avatar. It's a cool little site, we like it. Register here! Latest AVFC Blog Tweets
AVFC Blog
avfcblog
- follow:
- updates:2097
- followers:378
Loading...
Last 4 tweets in past 30 days from avfcblog:
People talking about '@avfcblog':
Leaving Comments
Only registered users can post comments without the need for it to be approved. Registration is free and takes two minutes so if you want your comments to show up straight away click here to register.
The Internet is Changing
