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The Aston Villa formula: P = MV

Having dipped my blogger's finger in the supernatural a few days ago (and thanks to Louise Taylor of The Guardian for having read those words so avidly), I thought I would return to the black-and-white world of natural sciences today.

P = MV. Of course it does, but then you knew that all along. And therefore I won't bore you with the dull pedantics of it, but it's the Law of Momentum.

Now, the boring scientists amongst you would have us believe that momentum is all about the relationship between mass and velocity. Those scientists, presumably, were the same ones advising Martin O'Neill when he went all out to get very big, very fast men "down the channels".

But, as Villa are beginning to prove right now, those dowdy, bearded and bespectacled old professors have it all wrong.

Because momentum is neither about mass nor velocity - it's about belief. And this latest incarnation of Martin O'Neill's Aston Villa team has that belief coursing through its veins.

Our back four doesn't believe it can be breached. Stan Petrov genuinely believes he's the new Owen Hargreaves. Ashley Young, James Milner and Stewart Downing believe they can move like ice hockey players around the midfield so that spectators and opponents alike have no idea where the puck, sorry the ball is. And I rather fancy that Gabby believes he's on that plane to Johannesburg.

Belief is a strange thing. Its cursory and capricious nature accounts for incredible triumphs - perhaps the greatest examples being the one-in-a-million comebacks of first Manchester United and then Liverpool to win the European Cup in 1999 and 2005.

But it also tricks fools into disaster. I can't help feeling that Rafa Benitez's crazy "guarantee" that Liverpool will finish in the top four this season will go down in history as a madman's mumbo-jumbo.

Let me return, though, to this Villa side. We've agreed before that there hasn't been any great change in tactics or formation. But earth-shattering changes have been evident. The print and online media have all switched from viewing Villa as a rather predictable "also ran" to suddenly seeing us as the panther in the dark, the genuine contender, the "real deal" in terms of genuinely viable contenders for the Top 4.

And maybe we are.

But it will all be about momentum, you see. If we keep the run going and beat what will be a tough and defiant Stoke side on Saturday (and let's hope we play for 90+ minutes and not just 84, like last season), then Villa will go into those critical games against Arsenal and Liverpool with danders up.

Any slip up though, be it through complacency, tiredness or otherwise, and we may just go into those games with an itching, niggling self-doubt which either the Scousers or the Arse will sniff out pretty quickly and exploit.

I'd never have singled out the home game against Stoke as the defining game of the season. But I believe it is. Because I think that if we win it convincingly on the back of what we've already achieved in the last few games, we go to the Emirates and entertain the 'Pool at home on a roll.

And that's all it really is, isn't it, this "momentum" thing. Being "on a roll".

Let's keep it going. Oh, and by the way, "I believe".

Comments (60)add comment

jerry said:

churchill
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Boss

The contact button doesn't allow us to contact you. Or is it me?
Comment 1, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.03 am

Damian said:

Damian
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it has to be done the old fashioned way - damian @ this domain name

i was getting too much spam and just couldn't be arsed fixing it ..
Comment 2, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.07 am

jerry said:

churchill
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Doc

Class. Pure Class.
Comment 3, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.07 am

jerry said:

churchill
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Boss

For a geriatric could you take it step by step.

First....
Second...etc
Comment 4, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.10 am

Damian said:

Damian
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email me @thevillablog.co.uk - but before the @ sign, put my name
Comment 5, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.11 am

jamie hancox said:

jamtomorrow
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As usual Doc - beautifully written and all true.
Comment 6, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.12 am

frem said:

0
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very good doc.
lets beat stoke and then i will believe.
Comment 7, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.14 am

SuperBox said:

0
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Doc - Great Article

I think you have it spot on, and the true test is when we beat the big guns (Man U) that we then go on and win again, like Sunderland.

Too many times, great performances are followed up by poor performances and the momentum is lost.

One of the great challenges with the Premier League these days, is you have to turn up and play to such a high level for 38 games, any drop in performance and you'll get beaten, no matter who the opposition. Prediciting the pools these days is a nightmare!
Comment 8, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.19 am

oldvillan said:

0
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spot on doc,with the defence now solid the midfield has settled down into a pattern and can concentrate on breaking down the play and setting up our own forward play,milner is superb in central midfield similar to my old mate dennis mortimer,the blend of experience and youth with an abundace of passion and great fitness is now paying dividends.utv
Comment 9, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.26 am

keith said:

keithj
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doc
ithought p=mv was passing = momentum,victory.

congrats damian on predicting from day one hughes would not do any good at citeh.

looks like spurs have been partying a little early
smilies/grin.gif.

do you think mon will put jc in for the stoke game to rough up their defense?
Comment 10, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.35 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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Emule Hat Trick my friends carried the £10 bet over EMULE EMULE EMULE is on fire !!!
Comment 11, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.36 am

Gallie said:

0
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Doc, your a gifted man with the pen/keyboard!!!
Comment 12, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.41 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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Love it Doc.

We're going places and I wouldn't want to support anyone else. Its really exciting how we have emerged as genuine contenders for top 4. Solid, organised and ready to battle in every game. Wouldn't get that from the Robinho's of this world!

Milner is superb and will do a better job than Barry in CM. I never thought I would say those words but there ya go!

Villa Park will be rocking tomorrow! I just feel sorry for Stoke....well sort of smilies/wink.gif

UTV!
Comment 13, made on December 18, 2009 at 9.44 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Stoke will be a massive match, but I think the double-header against Arsepool will be the real defining moment. If we don't win either we'll be back to square 1 more or less. But take 4 points or more from those games and I think our confidence will be absoultely unbreakable.
Comment 14, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.05 am

PB said:

0
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I'm really troubled by our fans getting way ahead of themselves at the moment. Sure, we should really enjoy this time, but last season is way too recent, the trauma of that collapse way to fresh in the memory for me to be anything other than extremely cautious about our chances of finishing in, or indeed anywhere near, the top four. Remember last season? Villa won match after match after match but couldnt quite shake off Arsenal, who stayed just close enough to take full advantage when the inevitable slip up came, ironically against Stoke as it happens. Liverpool are proven, experienced, been here done that before, they will be there or thereabouts come May, be sure of it, history tells you they will be, their squad quality and depth tells you they will be. Whether we will be or not is a massively open question, and all there is to suggest we will be is 'faith' that this time around we wont screw it up as badly as we did 12 months ago. Fingers crossed
Comment 15, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.07 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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PB

I genuinely believe we have a stronger squad than Liverpool
Comment 16, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.16 am

jerry said:

churchill
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doc
ithought p=mv was passing = momentum,victory.

congrats damian on predicting from day one hughes would not do any good at citeh.

looks like spurs have been partying a little early


Nice one, keith. Passion = Memorable Victory.

Hughes was charvered from the off. Putting together a consistent, winning football team takes time. I've preached that gospel many times and O'Neill and Villa are the living proof.

With that kind of inexhaustible funding at his disposal expectations were always going to exceed results at Man C.

IT TAKES TIME. I'm not sure Sparky has enough of it to survive.

Comment 17, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.16 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Chris

It's close, but the Gerrard/Torres factor just can't be overcome by Villa at the moment. Granted it seems rare they play together (on the field anyway), but when they do they have that star quality of the top European sides.

Without them they're tosh though, I'll give you that. A Liverpool side without Gerrard and Torres is a midtable side and nothing Villa should be scared of. If the day came where they had to sell both due to financial troubles I would laugh my cock off.
Comment 18, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.20 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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ha ha I would laugh mine off too.

Who knows, Gerrard seems a bit pissed off at the minute. I think it may have been Pancho that said it, but his body language spoke volumes. He may want to move on this summer, especially if they don't make it into the champions league.



Comment 19, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.26 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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Barry reveals City anger

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5778755,00.html


You can't help but smile. Barry is in a dressing room of individuals and big egos, whereas Dunne is basking in the love of the Villa changing room.

Happy Days!smilies/grin.gif
Comment 20, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.29 am

Chris Harper said:

Comment 21, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.30 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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Gerrard has gone on record as saying he wants to win the PL title before he retires. But he's also said he doesn't think he'll be seen as a Liverpool legend unless he wins it with them.

This season is a write-off. Come the start of 2010/11, he'll be 30. It must be becoming plainly obvious to him now that he's rapidly running out of time and Liverpool are going the wrong way.
Comment 22, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.33 am

Mike Carter said:

vivavilla
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That's what you get when you fill a squad with egos. It's like the Madrid galacticos just without the talent.

If the team implodes it would be pretty serious. Also hilarious.
Comment 23, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.34 am

Chris Harper said:

Villa_Chris
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Ha ha you've gotta laugh.

On a Man City blog, they've asked who is on their shopping list this January.

1st Comment wanted Richard Dunne in and Lescott, Bridge and Robinho out. Funny how things change.

I Would love to see those fans again, the ones who were singing 'we've got Robiniho' on tranfer deadline on Sky Sports news!Mugs.


smilies/grin.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 24, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.37 am

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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Another nice post Doc.

It's great to see loads of confidence on the blog. What a turn around from a few weeks ago.
I feel just a buoyant as everyone else, but as some suggest, it could easily go wrong. We've done well for injuries up to now, which of course will be where the squad comes in. In this sense, we're way better off than last year.
Defence is not a problem, we currently have a fantastic CB who can't get a game and Davies due back next month.
Midfield, well we have players who can't get in who were first choice last year. Enough said there.
Attack, we're not really any better off, but Milner seems to have taken the mantle, so I'm not worried there and scoring is not the problem anyway.
When you compare that to Pool, they have none of this.
Their lynchpin has gone and has nowhere near been replaced, for example.
When it comes to squads, give me ours over Pool's anytime.
But, as has been said, you know they are going to come good over the season. Will it be good enough? I really doubt it myself.
If we don't pip them, one of the others will.

The next 5 games are very interesting and could be season defining, imo.
I'm going to play a game of prediction here and say we can take 11 points out of 15 (beat Stoke, Wigan and West ham, draw Arse and Pool). That's conservative, imo. That would set us up very nicely and from then on, I really don't see too much to fear.
Most of the big guns have to come to VP and you have to fancy us taking points, even if we don't win, which means they are dropping them in a sense.
Of course it all revolves around us beating Stoke tomorrow.
And I'm confident we will.
Yes, momentum is a very important thing.
Comment 25, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.49 am

PaulMcGrathsGoneAWOL said:

0
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This is a big game, a big BIG game. Last season this fixture bascially destroyed our season, yes I know you could also atribute Moscow and Laursen into that but I firmly believe if we had finished Stoke off after being 2 up, there would have been a different feeling around VP. Yes we'd had a couple of bad results but we'd turned it on its head and were winning again.

Hopefully this year we'll put the away convincingly and go into the xmas double header absolultey flying.

This is a game we SHOULD win and therefore its one of the toughest to get up for mentally as we have proved in the past, plus they'll likely play with 10 men behind the ball for most of the game so we'll have to be patient and creative. We'll have to play well.

Anyway, Damien, as a point of interest maybe we could have a vote as to who we would prefer in the Central Mid now. Between Milner and Barry. Obviuosly forgetting Barry screwed us over purely based on football ability and 'fitting our style'. Be interesting to know what people thought.

Personally Id go with Milner as he has more creativity and he can actually score from open play.
Comment 26, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.52 am

StickyAV said:

0
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Doc, great post! But what was the louise taylor comment about. I'm intrigued.
Comment 27, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.52 am

Chris Atkins said:

Villain down South
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I haven't added any comments in a long time, as I was getting fed up with a lot of moaning on this site pre-season with lack of signings etc and comments MON wasn't good enough at the start of the season. I was a big supporter or Doc's positive posts back then and I agree with them today. Keep it up.

It's great to see us doing so well and to be in this position with a good crop of young English players is great. Not having to have resort to buying that big player yet is great. Though i am not saying that going forward we wont need to buy that player, it's just nice to have done it the MON way to date.
Comment 28, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.52 am

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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Viva,
If the day came where they had to sell both due to financial troubles I would laugh my cock off.

smilies/grin.gif So would I.
But unfortunately, I think they'll be ok and could even have some proper spending money;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/foot...as-rangers
Comment 29, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.55 am

BillyBoy7 said:

0
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I believe we will beat Stoke 2-0 tomorrow, we're flying, the support will be excellent and although they work hard, we match them but have more quality. Wegner moaning about Hull not playing mid week game, Fabregas should be out with ham-string when we go there Sunday week, so if we do beat Stoke, i feel we will get a result in London, then the momentum stays with us when 'pool arrive, another 3 points and SANTA DOES EXIST!!!! I'm just enjoying the ride, i love em!! Merry Christmas smilies/wink.gif
Comment 30, made on December 18, 2009 at 11.25 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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Oh happy days smilies/grin.gif
Comment 31, made on December 18, 2009 at 11.30 am

marcus taylor said:

MJT
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performance = motivation x confidence

great post doc, i think if we put on a show on saturday and score a few goals we will go into the arsenal/pool games very confident and will come out with at least 4 points. i believe we will cvome out of this christmas period in the champions league spot, with our morale intact and raring to go and finish the season in style.
Comment 32, made on December 18, 2009 at 11.45 am

Gavin Merriman said:

MerryMan
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Great article!

I for one, believe we will keep the momentmum going and beat stoke. I just hope we can dust ourselves off and march on if we should happen to stumble at the emirates.

For me the arsenal game and how we react after our next loss, will be the real test.
Comment 33, made on December 18, 2009 at 11.54 am

Andi said:

Chiefy
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perhaps we might get some atmosphere tomorrow get the Holte End signing again ??
Comment 34, made on December 18, 2009 at 11.57 am

marcus taylor said:

MJT
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intersting article on skysports from martin tyler.

- apparently agbonlahor is ranked 3 in the league for scoring the opening goal of the game.

- if own goal (for/against) were not allowed, villa would be above arsenal in the premier league, as we have conceded no own goals.

- in the past 5 years, weve been award the second most amount of penalties in the league, but have the lowest conversion rate in the league, at 65%

- if we beat arsenal next week, we would be 1 of 2 teams to beat the "top 4" teams in a season, the other 1 was leeds in 1994. incidently we have already beaten all of the "top 4" in a season, and that was the very 1st season of the premier league.

heres the link...

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12038_5775499,00.html
Comment 35, made on December 18, 2009 at 12.01 pm

Andi said:

Chiefy
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hahaha signing again smilies/cheesy.gif singing would be better although people are welcome to sign stuff if they want
Comment 36, made on December 18, 2009 at 12.07 pm

Doc said:

Doc Bowles
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StickyAV,

But what was the louise taylor comment about. I'm intrigued.


A few days back I wrote a piece about the fluidity and movement of our midfield since the return to fitness of Stewart Downing. A few paragraphs from Louise Taylor's (excellent) match report from the Stadium of Light hint that we are a source for some of the Nationals. Here's the link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/foot...ston-villa

And if you don't fancy reading the whole thing, here's an extract:

Still as pacy and penetrative on the counter-attack as ever, Villa are adding a few subtle touches with increasing positional interchanging adding fluidity to their once direct, slightly one-dimensional, gameplans.
At times the movement of Milner, Ashley Young and Stewart Downing left Sunderland chasing shadows. With the former using his new central midfield platform to provide Heskey and Gabriel Agbonlahor with some defence-splitting passes to run on to, Steve Bruce's back line required eyes in the back of their heads


I must say I agree. But then I would!
Comment 37, made on December 18, 2009 at 12.27 pm

keith said:

keithj
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we will finish top 4 and there is a good reason for this, positive mental attitude.look for the reasons why we should win every game if we dont its just a blip, remember how pool would win every home game before a ball was kicked because of a sign in the players tunnel " this is anfield ", early mind games.
the fsw has got to some of you with his "i guarantee we will be in the top 4 " because you are saying they will go on a run at some time, NO THEY WONT, they are shite if either gerrard or tores is out.
i like our martins approach to mind games, let them think they should beat us because they are wonderful and leave them wondering where it went wrong.
keep the faith
champions league next year
Comment 38, made on December 18, 2009 at 12.45 pm

heskeyshead said:

heskeyshead
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can someone help me? i want to go to villa vs stoke tommorow with my girlfriend but the tickets are only avaliable to people with a booking history. are they going to go on general sale?
Comment 39, made on December 18, 2009 at 12.59 pm

frem said:

0
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pb are squad is better than liverpools. torres is better than are strikers but apart from that who is better for liverpool than we have. milner or gerrard ? i would have milner anyday over gerrard now. we have four good strikers liverpool only have one. world class but when torres gets injured who replaces him.
Are defence is much better than liverpools. dunne or carragar ? dunne for me. liverpools wingers are awful, infact exept from babel who never plays who do they have ? we have downing, young and milner if needed.
so the point is overall are squad is stronger than liverpools and thinking about it arsenals aswell.
i could go on about petrov and mascarano, l.young and johnson, warnock and insua but its clear who is better. johnson cant tackle were l. young is solid and warnock, well what do i say.
Comment 40, made on December 18, 2009 at 1.05 pm

Stan Balaban said:

0
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MJT - Did you see you see in that Sky article our stats on penalties?

We have been awarded the most penalties in the league yet have the worst conversion ratio.

Who is our pen taker now? I have a feeling Downing will become the regular taker.

http://www.skysports.com/opini...99,00.html
Comment 41, made on December 18, 2009 at 1.10 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
...
Lots of positivity here today.

Can I remind everyone that if we lose or draw tomorrow that we are a crap side that will do well to avoid relegation and MON should be sacked instantly.......
Comment 42, made on December 18, 2009 at 1.25 pm

frem said:

0
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keefvilla - its true what you say. villa will loose some more games this season so when we do dont go all negative guys. we will loose some games but stick with oneill and and the players.
Comment 43, made on December 18, 2009 at 1.40 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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heskeyshead

You can buy tickets from VP ticket office tomorrow. Try phoning them and explain first time you have attended a game or if you know a season ticket holder they can reserve tickets for you.
Comment 44, made on December 18, 2009 at 2.19 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
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Up the Villa ! ! ! !
Comment 45, made on December 18, 2009 at 2.32 pm

John Samuels said:

Juan Pablo Angel
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Great Post.

The confidence on the blog today stems, not necessarily from the fact we are winning games, but from the WAY we are currently winning games. We look as dangerous and inventive going forward as we did during our excellent run last season without the defensive frailties we often showed at times.

The team is playing as exactly that, a TEAM.

We defend as a team, we attack as a team and when you have ten men running their legs off and taking full accountability then you have a chance even against the very best of oppostion.

Man City are not a team and at this level you cannot afford passengers. I am confident about the Stoke game because we will fight to the end and give our all. Even if the unforseen happens and we lose or draw then I'm confident that at the very least we'll put in a good performance. Stoke will have to play out of their skin to get a ersult and that is the difference between now and the Wigan game at the start of the season.

We consistently turn up at themoment and play some really good football. I pray it may continue

UTV!
Comment 46, made on December 18, 2009 at 3.08 pm

Adrian Kilgallon said:

ak_27
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If we play the same team we put out againest Sunderland then we should have no trouble beating Stoke. Just go at them from the start in a controlled manner (ie no lauching of needless long balls like we did for the first 15mins againest Sunderland) and just wear them down by swicthing play from right to left and vise versa.

4 nil. Heskey to get all 4.

Would Chiefy still get paid out for a hat trick if he got 4?
Comment 47, made on December 18, 2009 at 3.13 pm

Jeff Richardson said:

AmericanVillan
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I'm really troubled by our fans getting way ahead of themselves at the moment. Sure, we should really enjoy this time, but last season is way too recent, the trauma of that collapse way to fresh in the memory for me to be anything other than extremely cautious about our chances of finishing in, or indeed anywhere near, the top four. Remember last season?


Last year Villa wasn't as deep as they are this year. Plus they are not playing in those European games either.

Depth + fresh legs = no collapse!

Top 4 here we come! Up the Villa!
Comment 48, made on December 18, 2009 at 3.23 pm

beh said:

0
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Good post Doc. Your right about belief, it`s the x-factor in football. We are lucky to have a manager who is renowned for
instilling this into his players. Thankfully, it`s a grounded
belief, meaning we can bounce back when things go tits up.
Imagine having mon in the dressing room ( don`t dwell on that
thought )and backing from the terraces at home like we have away,
these young players could achieve anything. They`d become
pre-programmed winners.
So when momentum is lost, which will happen, dis-belief from
the terraces begets dis-belief in the players.
Let`s not shoot ourselves in the foot if we stub our toe.
Self-help rather than self-destruction.
In the meantime let`s enjoy the ride and watch the birth pangs
of another great Villa side and see them for what they are.
Comment 49, made on December 18, 2009 at 3.27 pm

Greg said:

Greg Davillain1887
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nice post i think ur right we need to beat stoke well to keep this bandwagon going, id defo take a scraped 1-0er, but if we win will it will scare the arsenal young guns.

My only doubt is after looking at the fixture list we have 2 extra games sandwiched in for the cup semi's, plus liverpool are coming just 2 days after we have travelled to london.

its gona be tough but if we come out of it with points anything is possible. Maybe automatic champs qualification and a cup???

utv!!
Comment 50, made on December 18, 2009 at 3.47 pm

Keith said:

keefvilla
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I wont be very disappointed if Warnock misses tomorrows game. Not that he hasn't been excellent since he signed, but I think having Cuellar, Collins and Dunne at the back will help with the long throws and set pieces that Stoke are good at. Still fancy a comfortable 2-0 victory anyway.
Comment 51, made on December 18, 2009 at 4.23 pm

Andy Scarborough said:

andy5759
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Everyone on here seems to be buzzing right now. There's so much positivity that you'd think we were an Amway motivational blog!

Does anyone want some detergent or cooking pots?

I want to change my name to Aston Villa.
Comment 52, made on December 18, 2009 at 4.49 pm

John Clark said:

kohoutek
...
Haven't been able to post much, work has been insane. But good to see the usual cast have been keeping up.

Momentum is everything, confidence is everything. Of course it could all go pear-shaped...But the team are starting to realize the potential we all hoped to see from MON, and we may as well enjoy the run.

Top 4 is achievable. Whether or not we will get it, who knows. So much can happen. But this is a strong, relatively young team, and if we don't reach the promised land this year, I still have belief that we will. "Five-year plan" indeed.

There is a method to MON's "madness".
Comment 53, made on December 18, 2009 at 4.51 pm

Stan Balaban said:

0
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Your right about belief, it`s the x-factor in football. We are lucky to have a manager who is renowned for
instilling this into his players. Thankfully, it`s a grounded
belief, meaning we can bounce back when things go tits up.
Imagine having mon in the dressing room ( don`t dwell on that
thought )and backing from the terraces at home like we have away,
these young players could achieve anything. They`d become
pre-programmed winners.
So when momentum is lost, which will happen, dis-belief from
the terraces begets dis-belief in the players.
Let`s not shoot ourselves in the foot if we stub our toe.
Self-help rather than self-destruction.
In the meantime let`s enjoy the ride and watch the birth pangs
of another great Villa side and see them for what they are.


Well said Beh! I'll be on a flight from from Dubai whilst the match is on but hope everyone else get VP rocking and makes some noise!! Stoke have a good away support so they need to be drowned out from the start!

Be the 12th man, UTV!!!
Comment 54, made on December 18, 2009 at 6.00 pm

Rattus NorVillicus said:

Pancho Villan
...
Goodnight All

Going to bed Early

Big Day tomorrow

UTV ! ! !
Comment 55, made on December 18, 2009 at 8.25 pm

Steve Badger said:

Badger
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As a fickle bloke, I'm going for 3-1 tomorrow smilies/wink.gif
Comment 56, made on December 18, 2009 at 8.54 pm

paul said:

PMR
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Yeah good on ya!
We've all thought "what if" but we mustn't forget that 5th would actually be a good season and improvement on the last one.
(Just dont tell the team we'd be happy with that!)

I had a couple of quid on the Villa to win the league last season when we was close up around christmas, at 90/1.
We're currently available at best priced 80/1 I think so if you truly believe we have a squeak then have a few quid.

You've got to think that Man Utd and Chelsea will both pull away at some point though, Arsenal are good enough for the top 4
and that Liverpool are much better than there current form suggests.

For me we have to place close attention to our battle with Spurs/Man City, finishing ahead of these is the main aim.
Getting more points that any of the established top 4 would be a real plus and something that would really put the cat amongst the pigeons!
Comment 57, made on December 18, 2009 at 10.57 pm

heskeyshead said:

heskeyshead
...
guys you may have heard this but if you havent please check it out

hour long interview with MON in november 09

http://www.brmb.co.uk/Article.asp?id=1451448

i wouldnt want any other manager. hes fantastic.
Comment 58, made on December 18, 2009 at 11.19 pm

Chris Platt said:

clevelandvillian
...
I must take everyones temperature. You must all be ill. I have not read any negative comment during the last week.......Ah yes, you all have the swine flu


Hope it last until Maysmilies/cheesy.gif
Comment 59, made on December 19, 2009 at 2.10 am

Cian Donaghy said:

Celtic_Villan
...
em, its actually py=mv
Comment 60, made on December 19, 2009 at 1.53 pm

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