Comments for John Carew Carew, Chelsea at Wemberlee and Mr Lerner, take more at http://www.thevillablog.co.uk , comment 1 to 185 out of 20 comments http://www.thevillablog.co.uk Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:51:50 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78390 If we are not masking money then the charman should not reward himself with £ms especially as he is only part time. I is ther job of the board to run our club & ensure we have a future We are all pissed off with the Bankers taking out £ms thisd should be no different Take the rewards once you have earned them - FatKevs Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:54:25 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78383 im not criticising randy lerner but how can people be allowed to buy a club and then take out loans in the clubs name to spend on the club, it should be done with revenue or the owners own cash. iv probably mis read the whole thing and that is not the case with villa but if it is it has pissed me off a little. - Michael Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:14:01 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78382 how much debt are we actually in then? couldn work it out from that article. hope we dnt do a portsmouth. - Michael Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:11:36 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78305 i cannot belive that some clowns on here are having a go at randy he is the best thing that has ever happend to villa ever this man who has given martin 120 mill to spend i will show later also in real terms acorns 35 mill as we could have a sponser for 25 mill and the 10 mill he gives to sick children we are one of the 2 clubs in the world alongside barca who do this and this alone should get him a knighthood look at man citu chelskie and the rest all on the take this guy randy is a saint have any one of you out there had to look after termanly sick kids what this guy provides to them is hope as for his expences of 12 mill a year do we expect him to fly back and forth from the usa by monarc air no him and his family must have the best as for martin and the team he has given him 120 mill here is the break down big brad littel brad 3m shorey 5m beye 3.5mill l young 6.5mill c davis 10 mill z knight 6 mill r dunne 6 mill collins 5 mill warnock 7.5 mill thats 52 mill on the back 4 what other team has spent that then the midfeild are milner 12.5 mill dowing 12 mill a young 9.5 mill petrov 7.5 mill sidwell 6.5 mill NCR 8mill delph 6.5 mill salafu 1 mill thats 53 mill on the midfeild who else has spent that then we come to the front line which shows where martin has his faults haskey 3,5 mill cerew swap 6 mill malony 2 mill thats 11.5 mill on scoring goals which when you look at the vast amount spent othe rest is a joke this lot adds up to 120 mill i might have missed some which i am sure that you will tell me but when you look at the money randy has spent on the ground the holt and the training ground he is the best thing that ever happend to this club - john doyle Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:14:03 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78282 Damon - I do understand where you're coming from. I like having these conversations with you. They help keep me sane. I think fundamentally we differ in so far as I can NEVER remember having real aspirations that we would/could win the league. I've been around for long enough to know that 1980-81 was a blip. A beautiful, joyous, freaky one. But still a blip. I'm like you - I yearn for us to progress. Getting to Wembley is progression. Holding our own against the big boys is progression. Being within sight of 4th place at this late stage of the season is progression. Significant, considered, incremental steps over time. Thats what is patently obvious to all. The majority of us fans, neutral observers, reporters, journalists, ex-pros, the fans of other teams, commentators, summarisers, other team's managers and coaching staff also. Yes, the tangible measure will be our finishing place come May. Completely agree with you there. But, the fundamental difference is that I believe we will finish in the top 6. Whereas you don't. And as a result, you discount all the empirical evidence that things are improving at VP, and look for problems that simply aren't there. - DavidC Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:21:19 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78278 DaveyBoy there is a difference between successful season, years ago, to what is progress this season. a few years ago, under ellis, i would have said the exact same thing if asked what would constitute a successful season. i remember though, not so many years ago, going into the season with real aspirations that we could win the league. as it stands now, we have had a semi-successful season just by losing the league cup final and securing another trip to wembley. but success isn't coming second. i was under the impression that we had moved on from our time under ellis and were now a club going places - so to answer your question, success for me this season would be progress in the league - Damian Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:57:41 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78277 Damon - every year for as long as I can remember, when my Bluenose mates ask me what would constitute a successful season down the Villa, I've ALWAYS given the same reply...... "Top 6 and a trip to Wembley". The latter has been completed (twice). The former WILL be completed comfortably. What were / are your goals? What's your measure of a successful Villa season? I bet we're on track for them whatever they were. Stop worrying / carping about things that may (or may not) happen. Life's good. Yes, we all need to strive for improvement, but you've gotta celebrate and relish and enjoy the good times along the way. UTV!!! - DavidC Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:53:23 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78260 r0bb0 also - man utd losing to leeds in the fa cup doesn't mean they have gone backwards - it just means they had a bad day - it is one offs. no one will plot cup tournaments over a period of time to demonstrate progress or decline ... but they will plot where a team finishes in the league - Damian Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:12:48 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78256 r0bb0 i can see that doing well in two cup tournaments is fantastic and why it is seen as progress and to an extent it is, but the overall barometer of how a team is performing and if they are moving forward, really is the league and i think you know and accept this ... when you look back in 20 yers time - you don't look at who did well in the league or fa cup - you will look at the league table. also, if we finish 8th and lose 2 finals - how will that feel against finishing 5th and losing 2 finals? a byproduct of success in the league will be silverware in other competitions - it is just natural if you are winning more league games, that the continuity will flow over into the cups - lets hope that happens with our 3 games in hand over liverpool ... - Damian Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:57:54 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78255 Surely Carews performance should earn him a spot back in the starting XI. If Gabby and Heskey were playing i doubt we would have won 4-2. And to the people that say Heskey did contribute so he shouldnt lose his spot think about it this way. He might have helped, but he is a forward who didnt score and if Carew wasnt there to save the day we wouldnt be in the semis. - S Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:50:18 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78254 Damian, Surely reaching a final and a semi final is also evidence of progress. When did we last do that? The fact that we lost the final so don't actually have silverware should not be the only indication of progress in the cups, after all, that was just one match, and as you say, "it doesn't come down to one off matches". - david Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:37:51 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78253 DavidC Not having a pop back, but it doesn't come down to one off matches, it really does come down to where we finish this season. If we finish 5th, I'll agree that we have improved - or if we get silverware. If we finish 6th, it will be that we have consolidated for another season (or stood still) but if we finish 7th - we would not have improved. We would have, quite literally, gone backwards if that is all we end up with. But it does get better ... much much better. - Damian Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:31:28 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78252 damian lets not focus on the we have won nothing, however i think we have, and support an end of season push. i say we have won something because last night the fsw admitted defeat, a few weeks ago fsw was bullish that they would qualify for cl and now he cant understand how his preparations went wrong and now he will have to try and win whatever games he can. 1 down 2 to go 4th is ours keep the faith - keith Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:30:33 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78251 Damian - not having a pop, but you're fighting a losing battle mate. 99% of us can see we've improved this year. The proof is in the fact that we have beaten 3 of the traditional top 4 this year. We've had a real go at them, for the first time in living memory we don't look like rabbits in the headlights when we come up against them. We've got to one final, with a very good chance of getting to another. We've lost one game in the whole of 2010 (unlike last season's collapse). Finally, we're well placed in the table with 3 games in hand on our rivals. You can say "wait until the end of the season and see what the table says", but why bother? The proof is there for all to see now. C'mon, enjoy yourself man. It doesn't hurt to smile a little. C'mon. Enjoy the ride. It won't / doesn't get any better than this I'm afraid. - DavidC Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:29:02 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78250 [quote]fantastic win at the weekend - but some perspective people please. we have won nothing and are 7th [/quote] Damo I agree with you there, if anything the FSW has shown us that in this league anyone can beat anyone we need to keep our feet on the floor and perform like our lives depend on it, like the second half against reading !!! Its all there for us to take - Andi Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:18:08 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78249 [quote]fantastic win at the weekend - but some perspective people please. we have won nothing and are 7th. if we win the fa cup or finish higher than 6th, we could have come on a bit - but not because we beat a team 18th in division 2 [/quote] Damian, now I'm wondering just who it is who needs some perspective. Do you honestly think that your comment above has perspective and balance? Honestly? You describe Reading as a team who are 18th in Division 2 but you know that is in no way a true reflection of their form since their change of management. They have the best recent form of any team in the Championship having won 5 of their last 6 games. They have also beaten Liverpool Burnley and West Brom in the cup. Of course we should be beating Championship sides (even the one with the best recent form in that division) but you deliberately choose to ignore their form in order to belittle Villa's performance which was excellent in the second half. I don't see people on here getting carried away, they are just enjoying a high league position plus two trips to Wembley in a year. Why do you feel the visceral need to keep downplaying how we are doing? Really...there's no need for you to continually act like the grumpy old man next door who keeps banging the wall and shouting at us to turn the music down. - david Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:13:58 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78248 Amazing John Carew, at his hungriest. Hattrick hero. Our side has character unlike any other side, we came back to victory from behind. MON must have given a hell of pep talk during the break. - TPU Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:34:16 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78247 tubbydunne we will see at the end of the season if we have 'come on as a team' by where we finish in the league reading are 18th in the secnd division. we could have been 3 down at half time and still won fantastic win at the weekend - but some perspective people please. we have won nothing and are 7th. if we win the fa cup or finish higher than 6th, we could have come on a bit - but not because we beat a team 18th in division 2 - Damian Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:17:45 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78246 Have to say again am delighted with yesterday. It shows how much we have come on as a team that we can come back from two down and win. Also delighted with season, someone mentioned earlier on about the excitement that the team has generated and it is true, they have treated us to a cup final, we are on our way to Wembley again and we are still in the hunt for fourth. We are being spoiled and I feel sorry for some of our so called fans who are unable to enjoy it because of various agendas. Just a little cloud on the silver lining. Warnock is really going trough a very poor patch of form and was poor yesterday again. If this continues it will cost us points and I think L. young might be getting a run at left back soon. What is the state of Bouma's recovery? Also central midfield is a big problem for us. We needed someone in there yesterday to dictate things and we simply didn't have anyone. There will be an enforcer on the way in the summer. Anyway happydays. - tubbydunne Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:33:45 +0100 http://www.thevillablog.co.uk/aston-villa-blog/avfc-news/john-carew-carew-chelsea-at-wemberlee-and-mr-lerner-take-more/#comment-78245 Those "supporters" knocking Heskey should maybe take another look at the game on Sunday.... First goal, Heskeys movement inside box drags the central defender out the middle, this allows Cuellar to get in the space created occupying another defender leaving Young free on the back post. Second Goal, Heskey drops and holds up the ball (drawing two defenders out to him), feeds Milner coming forward, who feeds Downing whos cross finds Carew (where there are one or two fewer defenders having followed Heskey) Third goal, Heskeys run to the near post and blocking off the defender gives his partner space in the box and means the ball gets to Carew to score. Forth goal, Heskey comes wide to left wing, gets ball played to him by Milner, then feeds Carew's run in the box, ball played to his feet, giving him time to control and draw the foul. Doesn't seem like a bad contribution to me. If Fonz/Gabby had played a similar part as a team player would you be treating them the same way?? Time to support ALL the players. Form from Gabby, Heskey, Carew and even Fonz could mean a great end to the season, but you gotta support your players not constantly (and more often than not unjustified) knock or belittle them...UTV! - Scrumpy Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:24:32 +0100