Ask a so-called football pundit which three sides are going to be relegated this season and nine out of ten will include Aston Villa. One of those so-called football pundits even predicted it at the start of the season.

Not many like Robbie Savage, but you have to admit, he saw this coming and that was even after we spent £20mn in the summer. Love him or hate him, it's going to take something close to miraculous to keep us up this season now.

Okay, maybe not miraculous because we're still playing for 39 points and anything is possible, but I'm starting to believe we're going to need 40 points to stay up because the likes of Wigan, Reading and QPR are going to be going for this and nobody can say it isn't going to be tight.

Starts this weekend

The thing is, after 25 games this season, we've won only four times and there is only one team that has won less and they are bottom. Proof, if ever proof was needed, that it's about winning games, not picking up the odd point.

So this weekend, we have to win. This weekend we have to beat a side that has won twice as many games as us this season (still less than a third of the games played) because it all starts on Sunday. Anything other than three points on Sunday not only means we will stay in the bottom three (something that might even be the case if we do win), but it will be like a hammer blow to supporters and players.

I'n not having a pop at West Ham, we are in no position to have a pop at anyone at the moment, but this match isn't about who plays the better football, it's about who wants it more and hand on heart, if Paul Lambert can not get these men up for ninety minutes of football on Sunday and we don't go and beat them, then we might as well accept relegation, because from the top down, it will be what we deserve.

Not only do I firmly believe that man for man we have a better team than West Ham, I also believe that man for man, we should want it more. As this home side but also because it's Aston Villa they are playing for. That is why if we don't win on Sunday, my 60/40 becomes 70/30 that we will be relegated this season.

About a team

So, this match becomes about the collective. It isn't about one player, it is about the eleven on the pitch. It's also not about going to war, it's about winning the game. From the moment they step onto that pitch they have to give 100% and they have to move forward. In the final battle, if you sit back, you lose and every match we have between now and the end of the season is the final battle.

What was it Sun Tzu said; warriors win first then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then look for a win. Think about it.

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  • englandsnumber 6.Its alien to us though,we are a club thats still in the EPL since its inception.I mean you guys are used to going up and down so its second nature to you but its different for us!! ;)

  • expat007

    muz1
    Lets be honest we have not got a lot going for us at this time. You can count the number of Premiership quality players in Lamberts starting team and still have a finger or two left!!!

  • Re: our good attack/shocking defence/humiliating GD

    Whilst our defence certainly isn't the best and is low on confidence, in my opinion it's not as bad as our goal against column would suggest (for example a stat was posted yesterday that we're actually the fourth most successful team in the league at defending corners). Likewise, I believe our attack is better than our goals for column would suggest.

    The problem is our midfield - it fails miserably at protecting our back line and feeding our front line. We are constantly overpowered each game and seem incapable of holding the ball to relieve pressure or create opportunities. For that reason I seriously fear for us against West Ham on Sunday - man for man their midfield is far superior.

  • im not an independent viewer so couldnt answer but you only have to read a rag or watch a football highlights show to see what people think of us.Its embarassing to be a villa fan at the moment!

  • muz1 - Excuse the plagiarism. Your fast fingers beat me to it!

  • Desert Villan,

    No problems mate, do it myself all the time.:D:D

  • expat007

    Desert Villan

    (for example a stat was posted yesterday that we're actually the fourth most successful team in the league at defending corners)
    Quite right, but we concede to many from set pieces as well.
    The reason we have the forth best record for corners is because it is done on a percentage and as we concede more corners than most it makes a mockery of that stat. "Lies, damned lies, and statistics"
    I am sorry but it is very difficult for anyone to defend ‘our defenders’ In fact near inpossible:p:p:p

  • expat007

    On this Blog you have to be quick to get you comments in as its must be one of the most popular. I am often beating to the punch.
    Well done Damian!!
    BUT WHERE IS THAT PREVIEW?

  • expat007

    That's me done for a while.
    Thanks for the entertainment and have a goos afternoon.

  • expat - I hear what you're saying and I'm in no way trying to claim that we have no defensive problems but how else can you comparatively judge the quality of each team's defending from corners. In fact, the larger the source data (i.e. the number of corners) arguably the more reliable the stat

    And yes we concede from set pieces but I'd wager that's because we concede so many set pieces.

    I guess my argument (playing devils advocate) is that we concede so many corners and so many set pieces, due in part to the pressure we are put under as a team as a result of our non-existent midfield.

    Whatever the reason, the outcome makes depressing reading!! :o

  • Here's another thought to ponder.

    Tu Yu quotes Wang Tzu as saying: "Without constant practice, the officers will be nervous and undecided when mustering for battle; without constant practice, the general will be wavering and irresolute when the crisis is at hand."

    They should be practising 24/7

  • ChrisK

    Crisis over...according to one website, Lambert has told the players he is ready to sacrifice style for results! Thank goodness he has just realized that results are a priority!

  • paulb

    ChrisK
    It just leaves me asking one qustion....."What style is that then?"

  • Shifty

    Watching Rep. of Ireland playing last night reminded me so much of Villa. Some half-decent players, some absolute muck and a manager who clearly has no idea of the qualities of any of them let alone where to actually play them. I honestly get the impression that Lambert doesn't know any of his players, and I mean KNOW his players as in how to get anything out of them.

    At least Trapp has an excuse: he lives in Italy, never shows his face at club games (arguably that even extends to watching them on TV) and speaks **** all English. Lambert has absolutely no excuses for failure because I don't believe for one second that the current Villa starting XI isn't good enough to stay up.

    The buck stops with Lambert.

  • Clark seems to understand Trapp better than he does Lambert.

  • Now thats interesting

    Premier League clubs will face a points deduction if they breach new spending controls, chief executive Richard Scudamore has confirmed.

    The 20 club chairmen agreed to two significant controls on Thursday - to limit players' wage bills from next season and to longer-term measures that will restrict the amount of losses clubs can make to £105million over three years.

    Clubs whose total wage bill is more than £52m will only be allowed to increase their wages by £4m per season for the next three years, but the cap does not cover extra money coming in from increases in commercial or matchday income.

  • see the text link:-

    this is interesting http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8478278

  • Premier League clubs will face a points deduction if they breach new spending controls, chief executive Richard Scudamore has confirmed


    Shame we will be in The Championship (possibly).

  • stevieh

    Interesting that we were voting against the wage cap, when I thought we already had one at the club!!!!

  • Stevieh - this could be because Stevie I and his fellow overpaid colleagues may not leave in time

  • potts

    as someone pointed out on here the other day. there is a wage cap at the club but it relates to multi packs of crisps. is cypriots news that they have swopped pukka pies in villa park for happy shopper?

  • jules

    given snubbed by Ireland even though he came out of retirement!
    he was told he hasn't played enough games for hes club, hopefully he leaves at the end of the season and doesn't sit on the bench for the next 3 seasons?
    he should never of got a 5 year contract at hes age, plus he was no better than Friedall!!

  • I'm sticking my neck out here...
    I think we will beat West Ham.
    Signs of improvement over the last few of games.

    N'Zogbia has found some form, great bit of work from him for our 1st goal at Goodison.

  • Here's a poser.
    Say with 15 minutes to go and Villa are winning 2 - 0 against West Ham, would anyone think about shifting Benteke into a central midfield role and bring on Bent. For the last 15 minutes ? Benteke holding the ball up skills are excellent.

    Benteke may not be a midfielder but he would surely give us some steel in midfield for the last 15. But that is if we are winning of course .

  • steve avfc

    Jonnah - good suggestion as it would give us some steel in the middle at a time when we are normally vunerable. Hope we don't have to do this. We are due a good win and let it be them on sunday.
    UTV

  • B6 villa

    Jonnah

    Bentek won't do a midfielders jobs, chasing the ball down and tackling after running up in strike most of the game. None of our strikers run back and help I think spark from wiemenn and at times gabby or n'zog

  • B6

    From what I have seen so far this season if a ball is played towards Benteke or anywhere near him, he chases the ball down, if he does this this in a midfield roll with 15 minutes to go it will disrupt the opposition going forward.

    Central attacking midfield in the last 20 - 15 mins, delph, ireland, bannan, holman or Benteke...

    If the ball is played out from a goal kick in the last 15-20 minutes the majority of times Benteke will win the ball in the central midfield and relieves the pressure when he lays if off...

    We then limit the attacking options for the opposition going forward. I'd stick him in the middle if we are winning, just the shear presence of Benteke gives us an advantage. If I were Lambert I would put him in there and tell him to chase everything down for the last 20 minutes. Win Ugly !!

  • ROY

    I found this thread on a WHU website and I have got nothing against midlanders or northerners for that matter having lived in 8 parts of the Uk and Argentina for 2 years I can tell you this for sure. There are good bad and indifferent people wherever you go. Its just not true that all Northerners are thick or that all Londoners are unfriendly. As for the game I think it will be a draw or maybe a 1 nil either way. I have nothing but respect for Villa who like my beloved West Ham have a proud and rich history. Player for player it will be down to who can cope best and or exploit the weaknesses. I do think we are evenly matched at the back with both teams capable of mistakes. If West Ham's midfield plays at its maximum they could overrun Villa but the same could be said if Villa's front men get their tails up. In the long run I would like to see Villa preserve their record of being in every E.P.L season.

  • Another "raving iron" on the Villa blog....

    ROY good luck to your club as well.

  • belfastvilla

    Ooops, my mistake. i thought this was the Villa blog !

  • Backs to the wall Villa Fans, don't pick up the soap !

    Raving irons on here.
    Knees up mother brown takes on a new meaning.

  • B6 villa

    Jonnah

    If Benteke is willing then it's a good idea, it's one thing us villa fans saying it but another PL actualy doing it. What ever way he puts out the team on Sunday hope they give it thier all and we get the three points

  • nollaigmac

    Why have we been infiltrated by Hammer scum all of a sudden? This isn't a ****ing gloating centre and haven't you got someone or something to be kicking 50 shades of sh1t out of?

  • B6

    Agreed it's one thing the Villa fans trying to put the wheels in motion and it's another thing if Paul Lambert will put the wheels in motion. I'm sure Benteke would play anywhere if asked, particularly if we are in a winning position to get the 3 points. Maybe it's been practiced on the training ground who knows..

    Just my thinking in trying to curb the onslaught that has been happening in recent matches ;)

  • vancouvervillan

    Trying to keep the ball and see out games has been an issue for us for years. Benteke in midfield with Bent on in front of him maybe a good idea but last 10 mins only though, 20 mins is too long a time, I think Lambert has tried to do this before only he selected Holman to do it !? :)

    At the risk of upsetting some on here, another thing I am really getting tired of seeing is Guzan kicking it long, more often than not the ball goes straight back to opposition goal keeper, or straight out giving away the ball and inviting yet more pressure, we should be playing it around slowing the game down & keeping the ball if we have the lead, I thought Collins was bad at this but lately Guzan is just as guilty, & when is he going to open his mouth and organize his defense ? he has not been coming out for the ball and commanding his area lately either.
    He has been around for a long time now, senior experienced player compared to most, he's not a kid anymore.

    On Cypriot I was surprised some of you gave out email address' on here, anyway i think one of 3 things have happened ...
    1/ He was on a wind up and dragged out a week of attention for himself with it.
    2/ He is right now trying to use all your email address' in some way to commit some kind of cyber crime or fix you up with his sister.
    3/ The information he had in his possession was so damaging to AV that Faulkner has had him rubbed out. :):):)

    If your reading this Cypriot just joking ! :)

  • Bobby Sixkiller

    @ vancouver

    Yes Guzan is definately guilty of punting it long far too often.
    That is no call to drop him or anything BTW just someone needs to have a word with him to stop punting it.

    As for West Ham - frankly the thought of a Big Sam West Ham side with Andy Carroll against our defense terrifies me!
    i just can not see us conceeding against them

  • avillafan

    If Villa take the lead at any stage in the game, which is quite plausible given the Everon game, it is CRUCIAL that the players don't sit back and invite pressure, because they will concede. Maybe the players could hold on to the ball and slow the tempo of the game, instead of panicking, booting it down the other end of the pitch and defending from the edge of the box. How many times have we seen Villa take the lead while playing good football, but panick because they have something to defend?

  • Bobby 6 Killer

    the "panic" has become a severe psychological problem at Villa for years.
    As lousy as the current defense and defending midfield are talent wise -IMO - there is clearly a psycological problem thats been going on at Villa and has been there for years as you hint at AVillaFan.
    Whilst it may seem we've only become terrible at defending corners and set plays under Lambert -its actually been a big problem of last 3 years even when had Dunne , Cuellar , Collins etc - and us conceeding from corners and not scoring from corners was big problem last season also .

    Having said all the above us NOT bringing in a seasoned centreback in January window was beyond stupid . Infact not doing anything about defense in bringing in a player or two in early January was practically suicidal.

  • Would it not be a great feeling to see sulivan and bradys face after we knock 6 goals past them.Just after that i woke-up from my dream!

  • Lets hope lambert starts with the same team and formation sunday

  • Bobvillian -

    Collins is not injured, he is however lack any brain cells! :p

  • tearsonmyscarf

    Morning all . any news from cypriate ?? ( he asks knowingly)

  • Benteke determined to leave at the end of the season according to The Star, contracts seem to be worth f**k all these days. If this is true stick him in the stiffs we only want players wearing the shirt who are committed to the club and the cause. I know he is our main strike threat and would be cutting off our nose to spite our face but he needs to remember who gave him the platform to show how good he is before coming out with this stuff.

  • See that when richard the third was found under car park they also found peter odemwingie waiting in his car!!!

  • knock knock "who's there"? Peter Odemwingie!

  • "Windofchange" Take no notice of **** coming out from the star.Yes bentike will go if we go down but even if he went the figure of 15mill is a massive joke.You will get this sort of press talk about him now.

  • bobvillian : I qualified my point by saying "if this is true" for that reason, you wouldn't totally dismiss it though.

  • Regarding the Daily Bollocks

    ASTON VILLA sensation Christian Benteke has piled the pain on boss Paul Lambert after deciding to quit the club at the end of this season.


    The striker has told pals he will leave the Premier League strugglers, even if he helps them avoid relegation.

    The news will come as a hammer blow to Villa and spark a £16m race for the Belgian’s signature


    Replace the word Palswith the word Agent chasing his next payout or alternatively anyone of the following - Dealer, parasite, plague, scum, Cnut the choice is yours

  • come off it lads,agent or not we all know Benteke is gone.Its 25m in the EPL or 5m in the championship,lets just hope we stay up!!!

  • Ben Woodsmith

    So the spending regulations seem to be taking hold where clubs will be fined points if they get into too much debt - this means clubs can't continue spending huge on fees and wages. All sounds good. But then I read that Aston Villa voted against the move. Forgive my ignorance but can anyone tell me why we would vote against it, when it seems designed to help clubs like us?

  • load of BS about the spending regulations.Just pushes the top teams further forward because the teams below wont be able to put in a big cash injection.

  • B6 villa

    We are not in the same league as the top four clubs so if they come calling for one of ours stars who is doing well there is not much we can do. As for Benteke who could blame him for wanting to play at a better club with better players and playing on a bigger stage and playing for trophies and sorry forgot mention more money. All we can do is look at the only positive and that is making a good profit

  • Dont blame anyone for wanting to better themselves but did Benteke and his advisors not know what they were coming to when he signed his contract? Or did they think Lambert was a fairy godmother? Yet again we are used as a stepping stone. No loyalty or honesty left in the game amongst owners, managers or players and its all down to money, the only honesty is amongst fans and clubs with shareholders who tell it like it is (but I suppose that is only because they have money in a club) the game is going to hell in a hand cart and the fair play rules being proposed will simply send the best players to some other country to milk some other poor mug punters the way we have been milked for years.

  • Pete Colley Sky Sports News Reporter for the Midlands

    On Twitter:

    Pete Colley ‏@petecolley
    "PL on Benteke, if clubs want to come in for him (summer) they better have a lot of money! He's more than doubled in value."

    https://twitter.com/petecolley

  • Does this mean that Lambert has already resigned himself to the fact that he will sell Benteke?

  • i rmember when benteke was interviewed in his car when he came in.He said im looking forward to playing in the CL :):):) He was right though,he wil be next season and doubled his value,no he has tripled imo.25m minimum in tiodays market!

  • and to jonnah yes i think PL has

  • expat007

    Good morning all,

    New Spending regulations for next season
    Don’t know why you are worried about this as it doesn’t effect Championship Clubs

    windofchange

    Benteke determined to leave at the end of the season according to The Star, contracts seem to be worth f**k all these days. If this is true stick him in the stiffs
    Benteke joined Villa thinking they were a London Premiership Club and would have preferred Arsenal. Is it possible that he was conned like we fans?
    By the way dropping him is ‘cutting off your nose to spite your face’ That would be stupid as he is a top quality Premiership player and believe or not ‘we aint got lot of them!!’

    jonnah & B6
    I'm sure Benteke would play anywhere if asked,
    Of course he would, Arsenal, Man U, Man C, Chelsea……………:D:D:D:D

    Re: Mr. Peter Odemwingie! Every morning Lambert has been sending search parties to the Villa Park and Bodymoor Heath car parks looking for his car. Hoping to sign him, no! to give him a parking ticket to help the funds.

  • jonnah: how refreshing would it be if Lambert said "dont care how much money we are offered Benteke is under contract and he is staying her"?

  • Windy, it would have been refreshing, but it also would have been a load of ******.

  • pitbull inferno: I realise there was never a chance of it happening but it sort of gives the vultures the green light to start hovering now when we have far more important things to worry about - and so I hope has Benteke, it seems as though we have signalled the start of the Dutch auction ourselves with Lambert's comments.

  • expat 007

    Benteke may well go in summer and TBF if we get triple for him so be it! But if he goes to Arsenal he will only be sold the next year to Man Ure or Citeh as the gooners are now a top four feeder club

  • At least DB9 whatever we think of him has never given any real indication that he wants to leave, although we all know he will probably go also there are right times and wrong times for this sort of talk and the timing of this (if accurate) stinks.

  • windofchange only because no one wants him!

  • expat007

    Blade_oneas

    the gooners are now a top four feeder club
    Yes you are quite correct. Apart from making profits, having one of the best stadiums in Europe, being 6th in the league and in the final stages of the Champions League they are fu*king useless compared to The Villa.
    God I wish I was so knowledgeable as some commenting on here;););)

  • Lerner Out!

    We all know Benteke will be off in the summer and Lerner will be rubbing his hands at the thought of a nice profit. Also on their way will be Bent, N'Zogbia and if we go down Wiemann, Ireland (good), Vlarr and a few more. A nice 50 million in old Randy's pocket of which he will give Lambert about 10 million to invest and the rest will make up for the tv money. The West Ham game is the biggest game in our recent history where anything less than 3 points will mean certain relegation and life in the lower league's for many years to come. Lay off Guzan, he's been superb this season and was again at Everton and cant pass the ball out if there's no one there to pass too. Someone said that there will be 25,000 on Sunday but if you care about the club you'll get down there and give it your all. Villa Park should be packed out, not to support Lerner but the club and if you can go but choose not to then you can't whinge about the result. Lose on Sunday then lets give Lerner and Faulkner hell for the rest of the season including a no show at Villa Park in front of the camera's against Man City but first of all get behind OUR club on sunday and we can win it!!!! VTID

  • (Lerner Out!): you are correct in most of what you say, but I think when Villa Park is full Lerner sees that as an endorsement by the fans that they are happy with the way the club is being run.

  • expat007

    Lerner Out!

    We all know Benteke will be off in the summer and Lerner will be rubbing his hands at the thought of a nice profit.
    I wonder if there is a buy out clause in Benteke contract, not unusual these days! If so it would not be more than £10 million for sure.

  • Expat 007

    With 007 in your name I guessed you might be a little pretentious but there is no need to be so sanctimonious and deride my ironic comment on the state of the game or Arsenals position. The fact is they like us have sold their better players at the expenses of silverware. This was not a comparison with Villa merely a glib comment, Gooner fans are not a happy bunch and up in arms much like us but for different reasons.

  • KrisAVFC

    Only loyalty in today's game is the fans and low and behold we're the ones worse off!!

    F*** you Benteke! thanks for humiliating our club you prick

  • Lerner Out!

    It's simple! If you love the Villa get down their on Sunday and support OUR club. Its not about Lerner this weekend its about ASTON VILLA and our future as a loss will mean years in the lower league's. This is ASTON VILLA for god's sake, not some two bob club but a huge club with a magnificent history and when we get Lerner out a bright future. Give it your all on Sunday for the club we all love. Lerner might have raised the white flag but we ain't. Sitting at home if you are able to go is not an option because relegation will mean the end of our club as we know it! VTID

  • expat007

    Blade_one

    Again you are quite right. Why there is a waiting list for season tickets for The Emirates Stadium when there is so much discontent amongst the Arsenal fans I just cannot comprehend. Could be the cheap beer and pies, no cant be that as The Emirates is the most expensive stadium for fans in Europe.

    I may be pretentious and maybe there is no need to be so sanctimonious. I do post these comments to try and stop those on here taking the out of successful clubs like the Arsenal, Man U, Man C, etc, we should be trying to emulate.

    He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.
    Buddha

  • expat007

    I missed the word pi*s:D:D

  • Expat007

    Again you missed the point and whilst I agree with your envy comment, my point although it escapes you is nothing to do with envy. There are only three clubs in this league who appear not to sell Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea - all sadly with huge debt one way or another.

    Arsenal could sell out every week and if you have the money to pay that then fair play, I would choose not to and prefer the Barcelona model which rewards season ticket holders iwth cheaper tickets. The fact remains full stadium or not NO trophy for 9 years and selling the top players makes fans pissed of

  • expat007

    Lerner Out!
    Absolutely, its all about supporting the Villa. Its not knocking other clubs or getting at our own players when they are wearing the shirt. For more years than many on here have been on this earth I was at Villa Park, never booed our team, a player, the manager or even Deadly when at a match, after the game with fellow Villa fans, well that was different.

    Unfortunately I will not be able to be at Villa Park, but I and others will be 100% behind them this Sunday. Premiership football next season at Villa Park is all that matters.

  • i quite enjoy taking the piss out of Manure.My hatred for them runs deep.hate the manager,hate the players and hate the fans,even more so after their disgusting behaviour during the 19th minute applause.You know the old saying about finding a Manure fan in Manchester!!

  • and dont forget guys to switrch over to BBC for the "real" game of the weekend when the Villa game finishes.

  • Lerner Out!

    As for Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc couldn't give a s**t about any of them and never have. Win, lose or draw my club's ASTON VILLA a proper club with proper working class local supporters not glory hunters. Never been envious of any of the plastic fans who wear their shirts, just feel pity for them as they dont have a clue what the games all about!

  • expat007

    Blade_one

    You say I missed the point, don’t think so as you are now trying to dress it up differently or are you telling me you respect Arsenal, be honest now?

    Barcelona have huge debts unlike Arsenal. Although their attendances are higher their revenue is not that of The Arsenal.

    By the way Man City and Chelsea do not have huge debts one way or another. They are both financed by their owners who have very deep pockets and that is not a debt whichever way you try to dress that up.

    Unless you can tell me what it is you are trying to prove I will not bother to reply any more as we are just going around in circles.

    PS: Besides having respect for Wenger, I feel the same way at Fergie. In my day you could support The Villa and admire other Clubs and their players. Many times I can remember Villa fans applauding the oppositions team and players. To many of today’s supporters, of all Clubs it is more like tribal wars and nothing to do with football. I have never got much pleasure out of other peoples failure, I cant see how it can possibly help.

  • Lerner Out!

    Except the failure of small heath, now that does help surely!

  • expat007

    sjh
    I don’t think they care one iota for your views. I cannot agree with you regarding Fergie or their players as they are amongst the best in the World.
    As for their fans I totally agree with you as they are so similar to too many English so called football fans, they are fanatics in the wrong sense of the word. You again disappoint me with this childish behavior.

    Fanaticism

    is a belief or behavior involving naive zeal or fanatical enthusiasm.

  • Jimmy Milners Handlebars

    Expat

    You're a few olives short of a pizza fella if you can't understand what blade is saying.

  • Expat

    My first Villa game was aged 7 in 1971 the good old third division, I was also lucky enough to see Santos play at VP. My dad spent a lot of time around villa players as Grandad went to the dog track with Pongo et al.

    I don’t envy any club but I do love Villa., it’s in my blood!

    Man City (£100 million loss) and Chelsea (£68 million loss) are both in debt to their owners and without the bail outs (or sponsorship) they receive from their respective owners they would be in serious trouble. Barcelona are no different as they are also in debt much like Madrid, Milan Juventus et al. – German clubs seem to have this nailed.

    The big French clubs will a benefit from new stadiums/refurbs etc paid for by the government because of Euro 2016, just before Mr Platini’s new regulations come into force.

    I like Arsenals model and respect their decision to fund the team from their activities on and off the field, it doesn’t change the fact that they have had little success and sell their best players – which if you go back to first point even if Benteke went there he will be sold to a bigger club. This is not jealous, respect or anything other than fact based on previous actions.

  • Expat how is it childish?!! Fergie is a scumbag,a bully who manipulates everyone from the FA to officials to the press.He uses the siege mentality (which works) in his player team talks and encourages his players to be hated.They are bad winners as well as bad losers and cant forget they pinched their 2 recent CL titles,one after being comprehensively outplayed by Bayern and the other a penalty win.I can choose who i like and dislike and i fooking hate Manure end of!!

  • expat007

    Lerner Out!

    ASTON VILLA a proper club with proper working class local supporters
    Although I come from a working class background I was lucky enough to doreasonably well in business and have many business friends including MD's, a barrister, a solicitor, a financial adviser and others who do not come from the working class, but like me are great Villa supporters.
    I do not see many cloth caps these days. I not saying its right or wrong, but times have changed from the day when I could have gone to Villa Park by a Football Special, seen the match had a pint of bitter for five bob (25p for you youngsters) and got change. Not 1900 but 1970. You could stand at The Witton End (North Stand) for two bob (10p) same as a the bitter.
    As I said times they are a changing

    I list below a few more working class Villa supporters:
    Prince William – The man who will be King
    Lord Mervyn King - Bank supreme
    Lord Digby Jones
    Tom Hanks – Actor
    Amy Winehouse – Now departed Musician
    David Cameron – Prime Minister
    Nigel Kennedy – Violinist
    Mark Williams – Actor
    Emma Willis – TV presenter
    Ritchie Neville – Former Boyband member
    Oliver Phelps – Actor
    David Bradley – Actor
    Pauline McLynn – Mrs Doyle in Father Ted
    Ian Bell – Cricketer
    Martin Shaw – Actor
    Ian Lavender – Pike in Dad’s Army
    Kris Marshall - Actor
    Lenny Godber - TV character
    Geezer Butler – Musician
    Stephen Duffy – Music producer
    Jacqui Smith – Politician

  • Fergie is a scumbag,a bully who manipulates everyone from the FA to officials to the press.


    I have a grudging admiration for SAF its the muppets who allow themselves to be manipulated by him who get on my nerves. He sticks up no matter what for his players, his club, his fans and I wish we had someone like him standing up for us and our team. Best manager I can remember by a country mile.

  • expat007

    Blade_one

    The big French clubs will a benefit from new stadiums/refurbs etc paid for by the government because of Euro 2016, just before Mr Platini’s new regulations come into force.
    Sorry but your knowledge of French football is a little limited.
    The majority of the Stadiums are owned by the local councils and the Clubs pay a rent to them.
    The vast majority of French Clubs have large debts and no assets and have to sell their stars. The players in the French National side nearly all play for foreign clubs, many in England.
    There attendances are paltry and Rugby Union gets similar support to football.
    Marseilles are the second biggest supported French club and cannot even pay Barton £30,000 per week, they are in default. Its only because QPR pay the majority of his wage that he stays there.
    Finally there is really only one solvent club in France and that is Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) why because they are wholly owned the Arabs (Qatar Investment Authority) and that is why Becks has gone there.
    Why do I know a little about French football, possibly because I live in France and go to many Bordeaux matches.

  • expat007

    Blade_one
    At Bordeaux I sit in the stands and the cost per match is about £15 and that is a good seat. Most seats are about £10.

  • expat007 how close is union to football in terms of popularity? The Toulouse,Toulon and Clermont fans are wild(in a good way) when ive been watching the HC and the fan bas seems to be huge.

  • Lerner Out!

    EXPAT,

    Working class to me means any person who works for a living and does not live off the back off anyone else's hard work or does not use their parent's money and sit on their backsides. I have no problem with any person getting on in life as I have done too but still class myself as working class as I've had to work bloody hard to get where I am today. It doesnt matter what job you've got or how much money you can still be classed as working class. Some of those in your list are comical and I would only choose a few as being supporters including Lenny (rip), a proper local working class lad. Football (like it or not) is a working class game that is the place to be seen for so called "upper classes". I wonder how many of your list give a s**t if the villa lose on Sunday. Proper club, proper working class supporters, thats ASTON VILLA!

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