Aston Villa

Anything is possible: Aston Villa at Everton

New players often inspire the old players to give that little extra. It could also be that these new players we picked up on deadline day were part of a master plan. They could be the players needed to kick start our season.

Yes, I'm maybe getting overly optimistic, but what else do we have. I know, if it doesn't work today that we'll get the 'they need time to settle' and if they don't make an appearance that we'll have the 'the new players will be ready soon' line.

Either way, Everton are there for the taking today and just because Everton have only lost once at Goodison Park this season, doesn't mean that we cant make it twice. In ninety minutes, anything can happen.

And in fairness, we just need to keep the ball and keep the pressure on. If we go for this and go for it for the full ninety minutes, we could get something. Again; anything is possible in ninety minutes of football.

BBC stats

Not that I couldn't have figured these out myself, it was nice of the BBC to provide them. It makes for interesting reading.

  • Villa are winless in their last seven league matches, suffering five defeats and conceding 22 goals.
  • They have won five of their last 40 league matches.
  • Villa's overall tally of 20 points is their equal-lowest after 24 games of a top-flight season. In 1955-56, they had an identical record of four wins, eight draws and 12 defeats.
  • Paul Lambert's side have won just two points from losing positions this season, fewer than any other side.
  • The Villans have conceded a Premier League-high 46 goals.

Updates, prediction and team news

So, kick off is in three hours and when team news is out, it will get added and if you've got any interesting links please add them below, but I have an optimistic prediction for today and I think we'll get a point.

I also think it will be an interesting game. I think there will be goals and I wouldn't be surprised if there was more than one for each side, so I'm even predicting the final result today at 2-2. I know I'm getting carried away, but we've got to look for positives.

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  • Guest - fleet74

    I didn't expect to get anything from Everton away I'm happy with a point shame other results didn't go our way our luck has to change keep the faith !!!!

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Our players are not good enough to man-mark, so why do we persist with this. If we have enough tall players in the squad now, surely it would make more sense to switch to zonal marking - it can't be as bad as what we are on set pieces right now.

    Bahama,
    we are now starting to drift away - West Ham is a must win game just to stay in touch with the rest. The points are primary the performance is secondary...

  • We would of took a draw at the start of the game. Were we are left fustrated is we done better than expected and didn't know what to do with it. One goal lead I would understand the nerves but a two goal lead would and should relax you more. The only worry as jcv has said even if we stay up we might lose our best players and it might be even worse next season

  • MON, not sure we are being cut adrift. But yes, WH is a must win game. These are the teams we need to pick up points again. They're a poor mans Everton so crossed fingers.

    I've been a villa supporter all my life. Don't know what I'll do if we go down.

  • Guest - fleet74

    If we are going to let's go with a fight I thought we did o.k today only Chelsea have got a win at Everton that was a good result bring on west ham!

  • Guest - vancouvervillan

    Far more telling & shocking than Cypriot's "exclusive story" we are all still waiting for :)
    was the info i read earlier on here that this year the parachute payments for being relegated with the new TV deal go up, someone stated earlier that the payments are going up to 25 mil per season for 4 years, (up till now it was only 12 m per season for 4 years, so a 100% rise).

    If this turns out to be true ?
    Then as far as i am concerned the cat is out of the bag !, its disgusting, this is what is happening to our great club the owner wants us down, which is why he did not invest this window and clearly wants us in the championship.
    Again if this is true, when we go down Randy will be guaranteed 100 mil spread over 4 years, plus what he will receive for selling off our best/most promising players, think about it, as well as the wage savings this will mean he can recoup nearly all the money he has invested over the last 5 years without any further investment or associated risk. The alternative is to try to gain the extra 60 m for staying up, but that would require investment, he can be sure of the 100 mil " parachute" without any further investment at all, I was previously struggling to understand the business sense of us going down until i read this, now it seems to give a clearer reason what is happening.

    Regardless of what your think of the team or the current manager, if the parachute payment increase is true, this could well be the reason we are being sold down the river folks !
    :(:(:(

  • Guest - Bdk

    **** lambert n **** all u lambert lovers, he's **** n now u all know it but still find it hard to admit it, be careful what u wish for ( that's what they say right ) now u got what u wanted, and look what's happen , look where we are now!...... Happy!........ Yeah right!

  • Mon451
    the problem is we are playing better playing away then home, yes WH is a must win but so was Wigan, Southampton and necastle. Hopefuly going foward we can get something because the second half against necastle and today we really looked good going foward but only if can sort out the defending

  • vancouver, yes the parachute payments might go up. But each PL club gets £70 milion more next season. We'll be in big trouble if we go down.

  • Like I said. Don't give into the hysteria of some on here. I'm staying here because I don't want this blog to descend into tyranny. I respect people's opinions. For example expat and jcv have always put their points across in a good manner, and I applaud that, even if that means I don't really agree with what they always say. But that's cool. I just find it very distasteful when people post on here and criticise the manager using all words sundry. This is not all Lambert's fault, it's Lerner's fault. Remember that. Stick together.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Lerner out.
    Get the bannners out

  • Guest - potts

    i think big sams game plan will be plenty of width ,and plant andy carroll in our box

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Bring back Doug Ellis.
    Thats how ridiculous things have got under this utter **** of an owner.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama we are three points adrift of safety - effectively four with our goal difference. Our next three games are:
    West Ham -h;
    Arsenal - a;
    M.City - h;
    so we could well and truly be sitting bottom 5/6 points adrift if we don't win.

  • potts, it'll be exactly how Everton played us today. The test against West Ham won't be as stern. But they will be tough because of the threat from set pieces. We need to win it.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    West Ham will tear our **** defense apart

  • Bring back Doug, I've read stories where the coaches kept breaking down under Doug! All was not well.

  • Guest - vancouvervillan

    If my theory on parachute payments is correct, and we do end up going down this year, we will be in trouble for several years unless we get a new owner. It does explain why we did not invest which i think is what everyone cannot understand.
    Things are not looking good short or long term, even more reason to get behind the team and hope we can stay up.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    ive seen teams break down under this **** of an owner never mind coaches
    you do realise we actually had a better squad in 2005/6 than we actually do now!

  • MON, no doubt. We are 3 points off safety. But we aren't cut adrift yet. We need to win against West Ham. If we lose I think that'll be it.

    On another note, Mcleish might be resigning from Forest...

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,

    okay, so you say the manager should not be blamed. So, do you think it is not justified criticism of a manager that has broken all records under the sun for the wrong reasons, spent 25 million in a season and won only 4 games?

    For my benefit, please explain to me what I am missing and what he offers?

  • vancouver, but that's it. It doesn't make sense. If Lerner spent 20 million I think we'd be ok. We'd still be better off because the 70 million extra is huge. But he refused to do it. It doesn't make sense. I don't think they know what they are doing. Either that, or Lerner is broke. After a divorce and failed malls, he very well might be.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Mcleish might be resigning from Forest...


    Hes been badly let down by a sham of a board at Forrest over transfers....
    sounds eerily familiar?

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Yes McLeish, the manager so highly regarded by [Get Well Stan. Good to see he moved on to things much better to prove his pedigree...

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Get the banners out.

    LERNER OUT

  • MON, I said this before. He came to the club as an arrogant up-and-coming manager. He thought he could do a Norwich here. He can't. He met with Lerner and the remit was to cut the wage bill and sign cheaper players. He did that. It hasn't worked out. Yes, he is to blame somewhat. But how did we let a manager who only has 1 year experience in the PL completely gut the side and sign players with no PL experience? There should have been a DofF in there.

    Lets not forget, the rot has been there for 3 years. Started with Houllier, continued with Mcleish and now it looks like we are in trouble with Lambert. You don't give someone £20 million to rebuild a side.

  • LOL. Was Mcleish let down by transfers? All of his signings have been flops...Jenas, N'Zog, Hutton, Given, etc etc. He was part of the problem.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    was talking about Forrest not us.

  • MON, just to reiterate, I do see what you are saying. I just can't see how anyone else can do a better job and I do feel that Lambert could have had more help. You can see in his face he's doing everything he can. I do like the guy. Even if we go down, he'll be staying. Like it or not, he's here to stay.

  • Doug, 'eerily familiar'. Depends on what you mean by that..

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Lambert has take some blame but its our utter **** owner who is really to blame.
    Him not making any funds available in January was irresponsible , stupid and retarded.
    Lerner needs to **** off ASAP. Our board are beyond just stupid . They are dangerous.

  • Guest - dubvilla

    I reckon this whole season is some kinda sick bisness deal thatfat fk and randy came upwith. Were headn down no dought about it. Think about it. Learners a bisness man. Villas only a name to him. Fat boy has messed about the past 5 6 years. Lost **** loadsof money. Now he's come up with this new idea. Cuts out big money signing ' big wages' andy gets nearly alhis mmoney back fat boy keeps sucking and keeps his job.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    LERNER OUT.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama, I agree he tried to do a Norwich, but the problem is it's far more difficult to do a Norwich when sitting in the top tier.
    He tried to do to much to soon.

    On top of that, I don't think he has had to deal with large a transfer budget in one season - he probably did not get this amount in all his time at Norwich. I also think he under estimated the job in hand.

    The previous rot is not an excuse for the debacle that has gone on this season. He had a whole summer and a tour to the US to evaluate. He has also spent 25 million, probably on of the highest spenders in the bottom half of the table, so again, am much as I can not stand Lerner and think he is useless owner - I can not blame him for not providing funds to Lambert.

    Yes the wage has to be cut, but we are in the same position as many teams in the premiership.

    Why has he not included Ireland and played Bent more?

    I actually do think we may get better, especially if this new guy can actually play, but that is a big if, and frankly it may be to late.

  • Guest - B6 villa

    On anther note maybe we bought the wrong spurs player in that townsend look good for qpr today

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    i'll tell you why he hasn't played Bent more
    We sold Bent's supply in Ashley Young & Downing and never properly replaced them.
    and don't try and tell me N'Zogbia is any good at crossing !
    So Bent unless is having service provided on a plate for him to finish he is next to useless as we have seen in the games where he has started under Lambert.
    Hence Bent doesn't start many games.

    As for Stephen Ireland he epitomises all thats **** about football. Utter ****** who laughs when are we are losing in games on the bench , ridiculously inconsistent dickhead who no actual manager signed or wanted. Faulkner signed him NOT O'Neill btw.

    Why on earth should Lambert be starting him again?

  • Guest - potts

    billybob and the fat contoller will not get a( d of f.) they have no interest in football ,av is a business and we are the customers, plus a (d fo f) may question there decisions. they only want yes men

  • MON,

    No, I do agree with you. He did try too much too soon. He probs goes to bed at night regretting that. But, he didn't spend £25 million. Think it was £23 million, plus the £3 million recouped from the Collins sale.

    Ireland hasn't played because he is useless. I don't want to see him on the pitch. I feel Ahmadi and Westwood are better! I honestly do. Bent just doesn't fit in the side. He never looks like he can be arsed. I love the Benteke signing. And I like Weimann's work rate too.

    On the new guy - Sylla - he did look out of his depth today. Not expecting big things.

    What we do know - Lambert has said he doesn't have big money to spend. I think he's frustrated. When you have a young manager, he'll make mistakes and you need to help him out. Spending £1.75 million on a player is a joke. We should have spent at least £10 million. So it is all Randy's fault.

    I'm backing the manager and players because otherwise we are down. We as fans need to back them. I'm actually really worried by our current predicament. But we have to believe. It's painful for all of us.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,
    if we go down and he stays, it says a lot about our club and Lerner and where our future ambitions.

    Everyone talks about doing a Newcastle, but look at Wolves. They lost their key players and have struggled.

    It's not guaranteed that we will come back up, for every Newcastle their is a Wolves, Blackburn, Forrest, Clowns...

    For me, if we get relegated then he needs to go - simple as that, he has failed. I'm sure he will stay on, because he be grateful that he could not get a chairman and ceo as dumb as Lerner and Faulkner and has bought into the idea and got a job for life...

  • MON, Hmmmm.

    Not sure we can get much better and I can see what he's trying to do. He's got no support. Look at Benteke. He's been a great signing. We should be signing players for £5-7 million, rather than £2-3 million.

    I'll stand by it. I like Lambert. I think we can get out of this mess. People will criticise me for saying this. But my thinking is we have to back the team otherwise we are buggered. And I agree, if we go down, we are screwed. No one knows what will happen then.

    At the end of the day, we are all disillusioned by Lerner. But we have to back the players in the games.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,

    it was quoted 23 million before the Winter transfer window. If you now include the new purchase of 2 million, then that pushes the figure to 25 million for the season.

    As for Bent, sure he does not fit into the team style, but surely he should have utilized him and sold him in this transfer window if he is not going to play him?

    How much do you think he will be worth when we are in the championship and he has not played him?

    It's all about getting a good return on the clubs investment. I mean not playing Bent or Ireland has not exactly turned our results around right?

    Like I said the other day - A good manager makes a good team; a bad team does not make a bad manager...

  • MON,

    Lambert tried to sell him. Stoke were interested. THe fact is no one wants to buy him because of his stupid wages. It's a stupid situation and all Faulkner's fault for sanctioning the wages.

    Ok, so £24.75 million minus £3 million. SO £21.75 million?

    Like I said, I agree with much of what you have to say. All I'm suggesting is we back the manager and team for the rest of the season, otherwise we'll go down. I'll be the first one to admit I'll be distraught if we go down. And I do think that's a very real possibility. If we stay up, it's a miracle.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Can anyone please try to rationally explain or excuse why we did nothing about our defense in January window??

  • Guest - potts

    re relegation ithink most teams who go down have to cut cost and have a fire sale but i think newcastle pretty much kept ther squad intacked and came back up

  • potts, and that's what we need to do aswell. We got Benteke for 5 yrs. Don't sell him. The PL is worth so much more.

    Ugh. This is such a bad situation. I've never contemplated us going down. Makes me feel so down.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,

    when Lambert became our manager - not my first choice and I was not happy - but learned to live with it and give him my support. In return I would have expected some return back.

    I also said when he was buying these players that a manager will live or die by his signings. Lambert has up to now clearly been exposed by his signings because most are simply not good enough.

    At the end of the day, 25 million in transfer funds ifor a season is a reasonable by Lerners standards, and more than any of our relegation rivals have spent.

    Their wage bill is on lower and at the best on par with ours..

    Nope, if we go down you can only really point the finger at the manager and the players who were given a chance...

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    #22363
    Guest (potts)

    re relegation ithink most teams who go down have to cut cost and have a fire sale but i think newcastle pretty much kept ther squad intacked and came back up


    Yep Newcastle still kept Nolan , Barton etc when went down .

  • Doug, Lambert has said he wanted to bring in a defender but stupid Faulkner and Lerner wouldn't sanction the wages. It's stupid. F and L are to blame! Lambert is frustrated!

  • Guest - potts

    we must pay crap wages because they said on motd that sissoko only cost 1.8 mill didnt we pey 1.75 for our guy from france

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    #22367
    Bahamavillan

    Doug, Lambert has said he wanted to bring in a defender but stupid Faulkner and Lerner wouldn't sanction the wages. It's stupid. F and L are to blame! Lambert is frustrated!


    what exactly wage bill now are they trying to reduce it to ??
    Didnt our idiot owner sell the Browns for 1 billion just last year ????

    You really could not make it up.

    Bring back Doug - even that tight ******* at least knew about football these clowns that own us know nothing. Its comical the monet spent by Lerner and we are now worse than were ever under Eliis in 90s and 2000s

  • MON, I do think that's rather simplistic. It takes time for players to settle in sometimes. I think Westwood has been good. I think Benteke has been good. Weimann has been good on form and Guzan is proving to be a good keeper. The only mistake is not surrounding these players with experience. So I don't think he's wasted the money, it just takes time. Time we may not have...

    And for the record, I didn't want Lambert either. I said he'd sign players from Championship, League 1 and League 2. SO many people scoffed at me. I wanted a continental manager all along. Even Poyet would have been ok.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Potts,

    if we do not go down these are the players that I think will be gone:

    . Bent;
    . Ireland;
    . Dunne;
    . Warnock;
    . Hutton;
    . Petrov;
    . Given;

    If we get relegated:

    Add

    Benteke;
    Nzogbia;

    to that list

  • Guest - belfastvilla

    Maybe i,m missing something and lambert is a genius. To me its been obvious from the start of the season that our defence just can,t cut it. This point has been highlighted after almost every game because if you got points for panicking then our back-line would have amassed a hatful. How the hell can lambert not see that and address it. I don,t believe it would have cost a fortune to add some experience via the loan system so why oh why oh why are we still shooting ourselves in the foot week after week after week. So either lambert has a masterplan or he,s a total berk. I know which one i would pick !

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Sissoko is on 35k a week at Newcastle.

    Im guessing Sylla who we bought is on multi-pack of crisps a week.

  • Doug, I heard they were happy with wages. But we've got rid of Hutton and Warnock. Plus Petrov, Dunne, etc are gone next year. We need to replace these guys. By not replacing them, it shows Lerner doesn't care and he's looking to sell up.

  • Doug, I'm guessing £10 k?

    It's a travesty.

  • If Lerner wanted to stay up...

    We would have signed Hangeland for £5 million. That alone would help us. Then make a few more signings. It's not rocket science. It's a joke.

    But I stress, support the players and manager otherwise we are done.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    being run like Hull or someone
    dont think our thick owners realise there is no spine to our squad at all.
    Its bunch of misfits signed by different managers , bargain buckets , crap overated 'young' (23 is not a teenager) and **** all.

  • Guest - potts

    BB DOUG

    Sissoko is on 35k a week at Newcastle.

    i bet they are french fries

    Im guessing Sylla who we bought is on multi-pack of crisps a week.

    i bet they are french fries

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,

    the wage bill is just a cover up. I just listed all the players that are almost certainly going to be off-loaded at the end of the season. If you know what is going, that is a huge junk off our wage bill. To say we could not have got a defender because we could not afford the wages, or Sissoko because of his wages is frankly laughable.

    If Newcastle - who by the way have a much more stringent wage budget then ours could afford him - then why did we not pursue him?

    It's as much down to the manager to push the CEO for funds if he thinks the team needs funds to get the quality, and this is where Lambert did not request because he is happy getting cheap unkown players that on one has heard of.

    You can only go by what hie has done and his past track record, and what he is doing right now.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    not making funds available for a good centreback this January was an utter disgrace.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Lambert did say he was interested in players who had already gone elsewhere last week.

  • LOL, MON....I'm saying I agree with you! We were told a year ago Randy was happy with the wage bill but we keep slicing it! It's a joke! It's like he's trying to make us profitable. But that won't happen. We'll go down if we carry on.

    If we stay up and we don't sign any players I'll be pretty angry. I can see it coming too.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    Get the banners out.

    LERNER OUT

  • Guest - potts

    maybe there is a grain of truth in some peoples theory, that lambert cant deal with estabished players .would rather bring in younger guys just a thought!

  • potts, that is it. THe older players won't sign up to his methods. Dunne isn't injured, he's just causing trouble again. That's my theory.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,

    lol - good we are on the same page - :)

    Did Lambert not say just prior to the Winter transfer window that he had not spent all the money from the summer transfer window...

    With what's being said, none of it adds up.

  • I love how Steve Claridge is such an amateur on TV!

  • MON, I just think Lambert has been naive. And he's been stitched up in January. I do feel for him. He's a good guy and he's trying everything to get us back up there. I hope he does it. If we stay up I feel we will be ok next season.

    Problem is, I just can't see it right now. Nevertheless I won't stop supporting my beloved club. It's in my DNA. I was jumping up and down today when we scored and throwing things around the room when we conceded. It's horrible.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Potts,
    until he goes and buys some proven quality that will remain the case. He is just a more extreme example of a Wenger when it comes to buying players.

    Wenger tends to go for mid-range players when Arsenal fans are screaming for big name players like their rivals United, City...are doing.

    We are now not going for mid-range players, not even low-mid range players, but low-range players.

  • Guest - potts

    something has gone on .there must have been a cb we could get even if only a lone .i think a cb today could have ment three points

  • MON, I agree with the above.

    If you give him more Benteke's we would have been ok you would have thought?

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    Bahama,

    if he keeps us up, he'll get my support for next season. If we go down, then I would want Lambert to go, followed by Faulkner and Lerner. Now, it's unlikely Lerner will go, probably Faulkner as well, but the manager should and will take the can if the owner has any sense.

  • MON, I still disagree. If we go down we see what he can do until at least xmas. Give him a go.

    Anyway MON, been good debating with you tonight. I'm off to bed. Good night to all and hope everyone's blood pressure drops on a relaxing Sunday! Good night.

  • Guest - mon 4-5-1

    We can agree to disagree Bahama, it's all good - Good Night fellas...

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    LERNER OUT.

  • Guest - Oswald

    Yesterday was an excellent performance. If they can keep that up, Villa will survive. QPR and the like would kill to have Gabby and Benteke up front.

    It was interesting what Moyes said about Villa looking happier away from home. He's completely right. At home, Villa play like a nervous shambles and it has been like that stretching back to the end of O'Neil's era. It is akin to watching England play at home. The players are scared of their own fans' wrath. Both sets of fans have expectations way beyond what the players are capable of.

    I can see us doing Arsenal away and then losing to QPR at home.

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    @ Oswald
    erm....we were a nervous shambles away again yesterday and lost a two goal lead you moron. did you not notice? are you on our **** board by any chance?

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    LERNER OUT

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    BRING BACK ELLIS

  • Guest - Bring Back Doug

    LERNER OUT

  • Guest - avillafan

    Apart from the team's obvious inability to be solid in defence, it seems like the problem is a mental one. The players were good enough to win 3-1 at Liverpool and had Everton at 3-1 as well, which shows they can compete in this league. Also at West Brom, QPR and Swansea we were in front, but keep getting pegged back. It's Lambert's responsibility to address this issue to prevent further capitulations.

  • What happened to the irish defender williams who only come on against qpr and has dissapeared since. He cant be any worse than clark who constantly fouls in bad areas and his marking in the box is laughable.It is true we are a different side away from home more freedom and expression.

  • I still think we will go down but i have a feeling it could come down to the last game against wigan!

  • If we had qpr defence we would stay up

  • Guest - Mr Sheen

    No change. This team will be relegated.

    Guardian match report:
    "But though their enterprising attacking took them to the brink of a cathartic triumph, their defending, with 25 goals conceded in eight winless games, remains wretched."

  • Guest - windofchange

    Lambert thinks we will stay up because of the goals we score, fine, but what about those we concede?

  • Guest - dingbat

    Goals we score? Aren't we one of if not the lowest scorers in the league?

  • Guest - vogra

    I ended up going to the game yesterday as my mate had a spare ticket, for me what I witnessed we are down, we had a golden chance to make it 4-1 and we fcuking blew it, after that chance I turned round to my mate and said we'll either lose now or draw, my mate laughed in my face...oh what a suprise, we were hanging on at the end...what a complete and utter joke.
    Championship here we come...100%

  • Guest - Ftkv

    Do some fans not read
    We have been told we have no money for transfers or loan players
    Pl wanted defenders but CEO owner said NO
    We need Lerner out , some have been saying this for years, it does not matter who the manager is with those clowns making the decisions

  • Guest - Lerner Out!

    Went to Everton yesterday and have to say that the same old problems that we all know about will send us down without a doubt. A physically weak midfield eventually getting out muscled and failing to stay with their opponents when they are attacking, horrific defending and a plain refusal to mark from corners, inexperience in certain situations ie jumping into challenges around our box and yesterday the inability to take the ball into the corners at the end and the lack of a leader on the pitch to point out all these things. The first goal for Everton was a joke, there is no way you should allow a forward to turn like that, the second goal was due to the inability of the midfield to track back with Fellaini and the third was just a repeat of what we see every single week!!!! Attacking wise we were superb with Benteke and Agbonlahor unplayable at times and Lowton and N'Zogbia providing the bullets. Wiemann worked hard but you cannot ask a forward to continually have the know how to defend but you can't knock him for his effort. I'm sorry but Sylla won't be the answer, neither will Dawkins, we needed a strong centre half and a no nonsense centre midfielder with EXPERIENCE. We've got 2 young lads to add to our others and I honestly believe that Lambert knew this but was told no by lerner. I'm convinced though that if we had played this system all season, crap defending or not we would be ok and that IS Lambert's fault. This failure will cost us and Lambert is to blame for this but we are in this mess because of Lerner his yes man Faulkner. They are to blame, they have no love for our club and they are both an absolute and utter disgrace and should go and be told to go by us and then erased from the history books of Aston Villa. Lerner you are a disgrace, I for one have utter contempt for you, you are a coward who doesnt have the balls to face us and explain your diabolical plan. Do not now show your smug face at Villa Park ever gain, sell up and go and crawl under a rock. My hate for you will never go away and you aint no supporter of Aston Villa. Gets your banners out and show them after the game on Sunday, dont go down without a fight and tell the footballing world what he's done to the magnificent ASTON VILLA!

  • Guest - windofchange

    Getting rid of an owner is not like forcing a chairman out he has to want to sell and it would be harder still to find a buyer.

  • Guest - windofchange

    By now there would have been a shareholders revolt against a chairman. But like or loathe him we are lumbered with Lerner.

  • Guys really.... Ppl need to start looking at the current facts when saying "Lerner Out!!!"

    As for Lerner out, ok but who should go and then buy the club ?

    Who is going to want to buy a football club right here right now, due to the current austerity measures around the globe. The US Fiscal Cliff stands at around $16 Trillion, the UK is going or has gone into a tripple dip recession. The rest of Europe is in a similar boat including countries in the EU debt crisis.

    Unless Lerner sells the club at a loss, on top of missing out on the possible 60m BskyB money if we go down, Lerner is not going anywhere.

    The only hope is to sell to an Arab but I have not seen any firm interest in any news, about any English Premier League football club, being taken over from the UAE etc since Forest were taken over 8 months ago.

    Due to the economic crisis around the world not many businesses can afford to buy a football club let alone run one. So we're limited in who would, and who could buy the club anyway at this particular moment in time.

    As for Lerner out, I don't think so, I do not think he is going anywhere for quite some time.

  • Guest - Lerner Out!

    I agree it is harder to get rid of an owner but lets try and I fail to believe there's not someone out there who wouldn't want to own the best club in the world! If we sit here and accept what he's doing to our club then we should all shut up and put up with it. He reduced his old man's NFL club to a laughing stock and was voted the worst ever owner in NFL history and is on his way to doing the same now. Wake up, he's in it for what he can make and not because he loves the club and he couldn't care what league we are in or about us the supporters who will always be here. He has no idea what a football club means to the fans and has totally sold us down the river. I will not give up until he's gone as I love my club and will forever!

  • ive just come on to make a point to WINDOFCHANGE.
    before i signed off last night,you said something like,i was being over dramatic,and that no one had died.
    well the year me and my misses got married.the date we picked turned out to be the same one as villa were due to play spurs in the league cup final.it was a no brainer,we changed the date so that we could go to the final.
    when football is in your blood,it does seem like life or death,i seem to recall bill shankley saying the same.
    and thats the passion of our game.;)

  • Guest - Granger

    Jcv you do not have to justify yourself to anyone. Your opinion is valued and based on being a fan of AVFC. Keep posting

  • Guest - Granger

    I keep changing my thoughts regarding Lerner. At the moment I am thinking that he just does not know what he is doing regarding running a football club and never has. What interests me is what advice has he taken in the past and how that reflects what his decisions are now.
    I know it is over now and I should move on but I am still fuming about the January transfer window. Early on we were linked with Sissoko and Coutinho and a loan for Lescott. Now I can accept not being able to afford Lescott and that perhaps Coutinho is a season too soon considering where we are in the table but not going for Sissoko for 1.8 million and £35000 per week I do not get. He is obvious quality at half the price of Ireland. Too much austerity at this stage is not going to get the players we need to stay up. We need quality from abroad not over priced premiership players like some in our past. We have ended up with no new defender and players who seem not quite up to hitting the ground running to help with a relegation battle.
    So I can only assume Lerner wants championship football and the parachute payments. A man of mediocre ambition and ability because he seems unable to learn from prior experience.

  • Guest - Lerner Out!

    This club has been mismanaged from day 1 by Lerner and has nothing to do with the the world's financial instability. I am not one of these fair weather sky supporters who wants us to become a plastic club like the Chelsea's and Man City's of this world. I hate what sky has done to football by encouraging club's to spend what they don't have just to increase their viewing figures and with thoise idiot presenters sitting there on transfer deadline day with their idiotic graph's showing how much club's have spent. I have claret and blue blood and wish I didn't care so much but I do. Lerner is destroying our club and its he who came in splashing his millions knowing it was unsustainable and also knowing that if we didnt make the top 4 under O'Neil then he would pull the financial plug. We were suckered into the belief that he loved Aston Villa and he had a 5 year plan and that was all down to our desperation to see Villa succeed. We didn't at the time believe we were being sold down the river and that the future of Aston Villa was being being put at risk by this comical s**t or bust short term plan. Over the last 3 seasons we have suffered and have slipped lower and lower down the league and this season I am afraid will result in relegation. Can anyone say what Lerner's intentions are for us? does he have ANOTHER 5 year plan or any plan at all ? Do we know what financial position we are in? The simple answer I believe is NO we don't have a clue because nobody tells us. We are being treated as the s**t on the bottom of Lerner's shoe, the thick commoners who should just pay up and shut up. Where are you Lerner/Faulkner? Their silence says it all and their total contempt for us is there for all to see. I'm sorry for giving a s**t what happens to Aston Villa but my 12 year old son summed it up on the way back from everton yesterday when he said from his heart " Dad, I will always love Aston Villa" and that my friend says it all!!!!





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