Written by Damian Thursday, 05 November 2009 15:20
Is Martin O'Neill the least worried manager in the league? Sure, we're 7th in the table and finished 6th the past two seasons, but we've seen the last week that Randy Lerner does have a fairly demanding side to him and you've got to think that after spending all the money he has spent he might actually want something more.
Why do I mention this? Well, Fosters have released a league table (click the image below to see it); the league table of worriers and Martin O'Neill sits at the top, without a care in the world, because this league table does it backwards. The least worried you are the higher up the table you are and it lists all results from the entire season.
Clearly, there has been much scientific thought put into this and it has taken the guys at Foster several weeks, maybe even months to come up with the numbers to get all this information but now we have have it. There is actually a surprisingly concise explanation on how they do it and rather than try to explain, I'm just going to quote it, because quoting it is what we do best when it comes to things like this.
The Foster’s Ozometer is a clever bit of technology that analyses Twitter to show you the best and the worst of the Australian No Worries attitude in the UK. It trawls tens of thousands of tweets every minute in search of ones that have a No Worries outlook and gives them a positive percentage score. Tweets that are more downbeat get a negative score. It does all this by looking for particular words that represent the FOSTER’S No Worries spirit and those that don’t, as well as how these words work together to change the meaning of the tweet.
From this data, the Ozometer compiles a Most / Least leaderboard of people, places and celebs which it updates in real-time.
So what makes a tweet No Worries? Now you mention it, what is the Aussie No Worries attitude? No Worries is that positive cup-is-half-full kind of sunny outlook, chilled but not lazy, and up for a laugh. It’s about time with mates and a coldie in your hand. It’s the kind of attitude that’s easy to have on the beach in the sun, which is why it’s a classic Aussie point of view, but is it alive and well in the UK?
So, there you have it. I wasn't going to publish the league table until tomorrow but seeing as it's on the Mirror Football website already, I thought you might as well have it too. All you have to do to see it is click the image to the right to see the weekly scores in full and not a shrinked down version.
He is top and it does sort of make sense but I have a feeling that after the result from last night, he might very well be dropping off top spot, especially if we don't get a good result next, which we really should.
Oh and if you use Twitter, you can follow Fosters here, I have a feeling they might be releasing more of them.
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Damian
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... Pancho Villan actually no, not even some beer .. which is what the guys over at mirror football suggest they got they get a link, i get unique content, well sort of unique. i was told no other aston villa website got this .. |
fastbackace
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... i think i cried yesterday, in the end the result was disgusting. and in the end, we should have had the quality and the man power to win. in my eyes... MON GOT IT WRONG... AGAIN. so if we finish 10th this season... will we then call for his head?? thats the real question. |
Andy Scarborough
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... Fastbackace: at the start of the season I was very much a "pro MoN" man, now I am neutral. That is the beginning of the slippery slope towards "anti MoNism". I'm sure that the anti's will be calling for his head even if we finish 6th again. Let's just see what happens between now and January and judge him on his reaction during the transfer window. |
andrew
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... Can we translate not worried to not botherd.Competition for places keep the players on their toes but what keeps the manager on his? |
parisianrobsooncomingbackuk
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... i say give southgate the job that would keep you wingers occupied full time and i would not have to read about our blog in the worst ra |
Steve Badger
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... We're head, shoulders and torso above most of the other scores?? I bet they never looked on this site, as I can't believe it would come across as mostly positive, when we've been moaning about the performances so much. Oh and just to knock the Ratings down a bit, FOSTERS IS KANGAROO PISS Sorry, I couldn't resist  |
villarobin
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... MON has to start using his squad and playing people in their positions, not just playing his favourites all the time. If he does that and we finish 10th he may survive as its the players fault. If he doesnt he will go because hes just too stubborn for his own good. "Good manager but too stubborn and bizzarly always plays people out of position" Thats how he will be remembered |
Ammar
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...... There's always Roy Hodgeson who's out of contract in the summer.. |
fastbackace
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... andy5759- u mean just like how mon did great in last jan transfer window...??? dont get me wrong, i think mon has been great at building a great squad... getting playing into their best, keeping most the fans happy... but i think he has maxed out his potential. randy bring in the god of a manger that is jose morhino... however you spell it. |
Steve Oldaker
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... before last night liverpool had lost 6 of there last 7 games and listening to there fans who were in lyon after the game they all still believed in rafa..... food for thought hmmm? |
Ammar
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...... Steveo they had Unfit Torres, No Gerrard, No Johnson or Aqualani who looks quality. At least they have something to look forward to. Any way i work with a couple of Liverpool supporters and the reason they back FSW is because they can see a style to there play. BTW they dominated last nights game even with out the quality of players mentioned and actually deserved to win. Can the same be said for us this season ? Our best performance for the year according to mon discipiles is 45 minutes of football for the year...It time to wake up and realise he is not the man to take us to the next step. I for long time had thought this but what has transpired this season up to this point has convinced me he is not the manager to take us to the level i aspire our club to be. |
BertieBassett
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... No worries for MON then! sounds about right in my opinion, lets face it would villa actually benifit from a change of manager at this stage on any stage of this season? He might not have the prem' pedigree that we all would like him to have but lets not forget that he does have silverware under his belt as a player and manager! Okay a couple of league cups for leicester might not seem a big deal to some but he did this with medi-ocker players which proves he can motivate average players to win games. Lets not forget he had his spell with the celts and produced silverware there too. I know what your thinking, anyone could of done that there which is properly true enough but the fact is that he has provided the game with some quality and knowledge. Many of us were made up when he was appointed and many other teams would of thought that they had missed an opportunity. Give this man a chance, lets see where we are at the end of the season and then reflect on those comments made after Wigan, Blackburn and W.Ham and say, You know what, that was another good season at the top half of the prem'. Change the manager? nah! rotate the squad MON? that's what a squads for mate! Get some balls MON drop under-performers as we are in unchartered territory of having a selection for once! |
Steve Badger
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...he is not the manager to take us to the level i aspire our club to be. Good luck in finding one. He's the best we can get, imo. There's always Roy Hodgeson who's out of contract in the summer.. he left Internazionale to manage Premiership side Blackburn Rovers, which he guided into the UEFA Cup during his first season. He was sacked early in his second season in charge after a string of bad results saw Blackburn drop to the bottom of the league table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Hodgson Yes, stunning CV in the prem. Got a club into europe. A club that was on a better footing than Leicester where MON did the same. Just the man. randy bring in the god of a manger that is jose morhino... however you spell it. Give over please, the bloke can choose any club in the world. |
Ammar
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...Good luck in finding one. Badger its not always about track record as we are not going to get the biggest names in world football. Acutally they may not eve be suited to our club . However Roy Hodgeson has already proved that with limited resources he can produce the goods and seems to fit well into family oriented type of club. MON may have a better than average record but its becoming pretty clear he's not for us with what were producing. Maybe a Bolton or Blackburn might appreciate his style of football. |
Ammar
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... Oh BTW some stats for you putting aside the dire football we are playing and the reputations of the managers :- . MON win percentage for us since he has been in charge is 39.8% . MON net spend from 05/06/2006 around 86 Million. . Hodgesons Win percentage since he has been at Fulham is 38.09%. . Roy Hodgesons net spend since his time at Fulham 13/12/2007 35 million Tells it own story... |
Steve Badger
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...However Roy Hodgeson has already proved that with limited resources he can produce the goods and seems to fit well into family oriented type of club. Tosh, imo. MON has proved he can can produce the goods with limited resources too. Indeed he has won silverware in the prem. What has Hodgson won? Nothing. I think you forget Blackburn were abysmal by anyone's standards when he got sacked. And I mean abysmal. Fact as FSW would say  Interestingly, I remember saying at the time that he'd turn it round. Make of that what you will. MON has the better record in the prem so that tells me Hodgson on average will be worse than MON. And Villa are not a family club. We're bigger than Blackburn and way bigger than Fulham (no disrespect intended), so I don't see how that's relevant. Tells it own story... Sorry, that tells me nothing, apart from the fact that you need money. |
Andy Scarborough
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... As I have stated elsewhere in the last few days I am becoming a little less of a MoN fan. That does not mean that i would like to see him replaced until he has had at least one more season after this one. Constant chopping and changing managers will mean players coming and going as the manager brings in his own men. Formations and tactics will change further disorienting the players. Any managerial change at Villa would set us back. We would still not be certain we have the right man for the job. What does the club need to achieve before we will be satisfied? Since the arrival of RL and MoN we have progressed. That progression is continuing, our defence is better than it has been for years, our midfield needs one (ONE) piece to make it ideal, our strike force has only had one MoN addition - so I assume more to come over the next couple of seasons. MoN can be bloody frustrating I know, but who would do a better job? Melted Rubber Wellie Face? Hodgson? Mourinho? Roy Keane? Come on lads, give the guy a chance, let's moan, let's get on his back, but not call for his head just because we lose a game or two. Don't forget we have beaten Liverpool and Chelsea already tis season AND we are still unbeaten a the Emirates. |
Steve Oldaker
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... mon 4-5-1 i'm interested in what kind of football you would like us to play and also what reallistic manager you would like at the helm. because i'm perfectly fine with both sure i moan to when he plays cuellar at right back and hesky left wing and coker right mid and his non substitutions but i don't hold it against him for weeks/months on end, we are a club that is building year in year out a squad that is improving year in year out, trust me we are not that far away believe man believe !! give martin till the end of the season and if we have not won the title or the fa cup then get in a new miracle worker sorry manager ! |
Ammar
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...MON has proved he can can produce the goods with limited resources too. Indeed he has won silverware in the prem Has won Silveware errm not really sure about that.Frankly winning cup competitions does not necessarily prove your pedigree by a long way. How many managers have either got to a final or picked up a cup. Even winning the Champions league is just as much down to luck. Thats what cup competion is all about . If you can come and tell me he’s won a competive league than fair enough because that’s what I would call pedigree. Exlcude the scottish league as only 1 of 2 teams are ever going to win that league. i.e Gordon Strachan has won that league with Celtic would you call him world class ? The point I was making about stats yes win percentage is better by 1% and has spent more than double the amount so does money really buy you success as I cannot see any coming our way. How much better are we than Fulham ? They are in Europe are we ? How many points behind us did they finish last season not many. We have from what I can see a squad slowly falling apart as our best players not playing will only add to stress within the squad. We have no shape to our team. We can blame the players all day long but at the end of the day it’s the manager who carries the buck. Especially one who is in total control of the club. I admire your loyalty and I hope I am proven wrong but things will only get worse if mon continues in the same vain has he has done so far and frankly I cannot see him changing as he is type of manager set in his ways like the old school his mentor Mr Clough. Oh and the football were playing at the moment is more suited to Blackburn or Bolton is what I was trying to get at. |
paul mclafferty
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... i really dont understand why people are calling for o'neills head, we need to give him to at least the end of the season and see where we are then but let me warn you, it wont be as easy as last year to make the top 6 again. i have said all season that if we make the top 8 then i will take it as another step forward considering the strides citeh and spuds have made this season and dont write off everton. as it stands at the moment i think we should get into the milk,league,coca cola cup spirit as if we beat pompy then we are one game away from a wemberleey piss up..the first it will be in ten years. |
Steve Badger
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... Please don't tell me Hodgson is a better manager in the prem, because it's simply not true. And it will be proven by the fact that we will without doubt finish above Fulham this season. Note the "without doubt". If you can come and tell me he’s won a competive league than fair enough because that’s what I would call pedigree Your words mate. What has Hodgson won in a competitive league? Jack. The point I was making about stats yes win percentage is better by 1% and has spent more than double the amount so does money really buy you success as I cannot see any coming our way. You can make all the points you want, but yes money buys it now. I'm surprised you asked the question really. The only other option is to play canny, which will result in stupid defeats along the way. Hence the roller coaster  |
Ammar
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...You can make all the points you want, but yes money buys it now. We will wait and see. If we look at the net spend of Man United & Chealsea & Arsenal combined for this season they would not match what Man City have spent. Yet i would rate all 3 above Man City. To be honest mate is suprises me that people still think in the vain that plundering money will automatically bring success. Build a infrastructure and supporting your youth molding them into the first team is what brings success.Buying the quality player when required but not building a entire team on players brought from outside and no youth coming through. You only have to look at what Liverpool did in the 80's they built it on that.Man United for the 90's. Notice i have not even mentioned Arsenal on this yet we know they have also doing this . |
Steve Badger
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...Build a infrastructure and supporting your youth molding them into the first team is what brings success.Buying the quality player when required but not building a entire team on players brought from outside and no youth coming through. If you really want me to pick flies with MON, it's the youth side of things. MON has had nothing to do with any of it, as far as I am aware. It's about one of the only things I can praise Ellis for. Praise is due to Sid and the team, imo. |
Ammar
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...mon 4-5-1 i'm interested in what kind of football you would like us to play and also what reallistic manager you would like at the helm. because i'm perfectly fine with both sure i moan to when he plays cuellar at right back and hesky left wing and coker right mid and his non substitutions but i don't hold it against him for weeks/months on end Steveo in a nutshell a passing game like the one Arsenal,Man United, Chealsea,Liverpool,Spurs play. Ball on the ground through the midifled up to the forwards. Not Defenders pumping it up to the forwards saying go and get the scraps. Its just so depressing to watch. If your happy with our current level of football I cannot comment on that as I guess your happy with it . For me it simply not good enough. Basic fundemetals of football passing and ball rentention. Sort of reminds when Mclaren was in charge of England and we had the same problem with the national side. Capello comes in teaches the basics and plays players in the right positions now look at the side. Anyway off to bed speak to you latter… |
paul mclafferty
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... why the argument over roy hodgson? to be honest if we ever did sack mon then i dont think it would be a manager like hodgson who would give me a hard on at all. to be fair to o'neill and lerner they have taken us from 16th to a constant 6th in three years and if he does it again this season and leaves then we would be looking for a much bigger name to take over as we will be skimming the top four and ready to take the next step which would appeal to any top manager. after all the noses think they can sign shevchenco for goodness sake then why cant we get mourhino. |
tim b
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... badger FOSTERS IS KANGAROO PISS yup thats why we export it too you lot. we wouldn't be stupid enough to touch the sh*te |
James Clift
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... toastnvegemite2, What is the tipple over your neck of the woods? I'm off to Sydney in 2 weeks and plan to drink the place dry! |
Steve Badger
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... toastnvegemite2, Fair enough mate. Jimbo Daventry Villa, I think it's Victoria bitter (which is a lager), but could be wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Bitter |
Steve Oldaker
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... mon 4-5-1 so you want us to play like man u chelsea arsenal and liverpool come on mate that aint gonna happen get real the last time we played football on the ground to feet was with o'leary and that did'nt work either to play that kind of football you have to pay top dollar for the top players and we i'm afraid are nowhere near the likes of chelsea who i watched with much admiration the other week as they cut us to ribbons breaking through midfield with the likes of deco and lampard. have we got players of this ilk ? no, have we a gerrard or torres ? no, have we a fabregas or arshavin ? no, have we a rooney or berbatov ? no, reason why, well players dont see villa as a big club like you and i do and would much prefer to ply there trade at lets say everton (distin prefered them to us after 2 bids for him kinda glad he did'nt come anyway !) so martin has to be very shrewd in the transfer market signing ashley for big money but relatively unknown, sign downing only because no one wanted to sign an injured player, sign carew in a clever swap deal for baros, sign dunne cos he was not wanted anymore at city sign collins cos west ham needed to balance the books, what i'm trying to say is we are going in the right direction take martin out now and start afresh with some clever continentel manager aint gonna work ! |
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